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Speaker 1: My wife says she's addicted to the gym, but I'm

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Speaker 1: My wife is thirty years old and she's always worked

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Speaker 1: out and been in shape, but lately I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's becoming excessive. She used to regularly work out at

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Speaker 1: because of her schedule, and preferred to work out at

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Speaker 1: home or go for runs outside. About eighteen months ago,

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Speaker 1: she announced she was going to get back into the

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Speaker 1: habit of going to the gym. She now had a

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Speaker 1: job where she's able to take more time for it.

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Speaker 1: It started off normal, but slowly became more and more frequent.

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Speaker 2: She just keeps going until like like, oh, I need

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Speaker 2: an extra hour, extra hour, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: she set the gym ninety.

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Speaker 1: Hours and ninety hours a week an bab I got

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Speaker 1: asleep there.

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Speaker 2: I lose gaines bait.

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Speaker 1: I wish I could hug you at night, but the

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Speaker 1: arms are too swall, too strong, hot dogs. She signed

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Speaker 1: up for classes on the weekends both days, and she

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Speaker 1: started going to the gym every day. It became morning

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Speaker 1: before work and then later in the evening twice a day,

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Speaker 1: every single day. If she's stressed, she goes to the gym,

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Speaker 1: experiences some sort of life crisis, heads to the gym,

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Speaker 1: we have an argument, runs to the gym. She's four

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Speaker 1: months pregnant right now. I'm kind of surprised we even

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Speaker 1: had time to make a kid. I understand that it's

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Speaker 1: safe for her to work out, especially since she was

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Speaker 1: already in the habit of doing so before she got pregnant,

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Speaker 1: but the intensity is not slowing down. If she misses

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Speaker 1: one of her normal sessions, she becomes so irritable, like

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Speaker 1: a junkie not getting her fix. It's just bizarre, truly

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Speaker 1: a case of too much of a good thing. Of course,

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Speaker 1: she gets upset when I voice the feelings that is

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Speaker 1: becoming unhealthy obsession and that I'm miss spending time with

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Speaker 1: her because she's there so much. Really quick pause right here?

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Speaker 1: Are we suspicious at all?

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Speaker 2: Are are we massively suspicious? Why? We've always heard of

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Speaker 2: guys always cheating on their pregnant wives, But what about

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Speaker 2: ouch pregnant pregnant wives themselves. I don't know that are

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Speaker 2: not getting their fix, their fixed and become irritable when

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Speaker 2: they don't get it.

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Speaker 1: How is she getting pregnant if she's always at the gym?

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Speaker 2: I said, he was surprised.

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Speaker 1: Is she getting pregnant at the gym? Or is the

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Speaker 1: gym just gym?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Maybe disagree. I think it is me literally fight us.

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Speaker 2: I literally beat me off. I mean beat me off.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, Anyways, I love how I disagree and they like

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Speaker 3: verbally sought me.

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Speaker 2: I don't physically assault.

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Speaker 1: Where's the paddle?

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Speaker 3: I get the paddle?

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: She has all of these friends and this whole circle

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Speaker 1: of people that she seems to prefer spending time with

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Speaker 1: over me. Why don't we work out together at the gym?

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Speaker 1: The gym is her time, she says, Oh, so he's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: And he's like, nah, nope.

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Speaker 1: This isn't a case of me feeling insecure because she's

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Speaker 1: in great physical shit and I'm a fat slop. I

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Speaker 1: me to stay in shape, so I can't let myself

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Speaker 1: go even if I wanted to. I genuinely feel her

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Speaker 1: gym habits are unhealthy. She's over exercising. For one, there

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Speaker 1: is such a thing. But worse than that, I feel

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Speaker 1: it's becoming a way for her to escape everything else

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Speaker 1: in her life, which I guess is what OP means

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Speaker 1: when he says too much of a good thing makes sense.

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Speaker 2: You can become addicted to anything and use that as

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Speaker 2: an excuse.

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Speaker 1: Going to the gym twice a day. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's like, I don't think that's necessarily unhealthy, but

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Speaker 2: Probably yes, Yeah, she never.

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Speaker 1: Actually fixed anything wrong in her life. She just runs

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Speaker 1: boost and that's it. She also never gets anything else

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Speaker 1: she's at the gym so often. It's to the point

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Speaker 1: where I have to do every chore and if food

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Speaker 1: I don't expect her to do all of those things,

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Speaker 1: but it should be at least a shared effort, which

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Speaker 1: we agree with. Yes, people we know have even commented

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Speaker 1: about it to me. They've said things about how she

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Speaker 1: seems different and how she sures at the jim A lot,

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Speaker 1: Some have even suggested he's having an affair with somebody there.

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Speaker 1: You don't say, please tell me this doesn't sound normal

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Speaker 1: to you, She insists, this is perfectly normal. So everyone

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Speaker 1: in the comments, John Riley, is this normal? Should o

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Speaker 2: I mean it's even abnormal for her because he's like

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Speaker 2: she has been increasing her time now more than she

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Speaker 2: was in the past. Yeah, right, so.

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Speaker 1: And she was already working out a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like I work, I run in the mornings, yeah, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's kind of I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: the in the world.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's the craziest thing in the world

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Speaker 1: to'd be the gym mornings and nights. Ever, however, I

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think CrossFit for a little bit. I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to get back into it, right, But whenever I was

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Speaker 3: doing it, I loved it and it was like the

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Speaker 3: more you work out, the more you got out of it.

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Speaker 3: And I know, like my CrossFit the owner of the

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Speaker 3: like four hours a day and like sometimes he would

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Speaker 3: use it as an escape. So I do see how

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Speaker 3: it is. I'm just one issue doing cross from it

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Speaker 3: neither of those things are, then I would say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, if she's training for an iron Man, which

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Speaker 1: she's pregnant, she's not gonna do an iron Man, She's

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Speaker 2: That's probably that's one of the challenges. Yeah, if that's

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Speaker 2: the case, it is a lot. It's a lot of

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of but again, like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think if my partner was working out twice a day,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I would necessarily think anything of it, because,

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Speaker 1: like think about how much time people spend watching TV

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Speaker 1: on their phones or on their phones. Yes, most people's

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Speaker 1: partners are probably on their phones and watching TV more

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Speaker 2: I think I think, maybe what's the thing that OPI

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Speaker 2: is like he feels engaging. Yeah, yeah, and us using

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Speaker 2: this as the means of disengagement from them, Like interacting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which that's the issue. It's not the fact that

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Speaker 1: is feeling this disengagement, whether it be true or maybe

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Speaker 2: I think it would be weird if, like the moment

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Speaker 2: she wakes up, she goes to the gym, and then

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Speaker 2: she's just like Jim to work, and then as soon

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Speaker 2: as she's done at work, she goes to the gym

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Speaker 2: and then only goes back home to sleep.

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Speaker 1: If she's literally if there's no time spent together, that's

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Speaker 1: literally zero.

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Speaker 2: Yes, then that's weird.

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Speaker 1: But but there's an update. Oh god, I posted not

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Speaker 1: very long ago. But my wife's addiction to the gym

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Speaker 1: a compulsion, if you will. She spends most of her

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Speaker 1: free time there. She often goes twice a day, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes even three times if we have a fight at

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Speaker 1: night and she needs to run off instead of actually talking.

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Speaker 2: To me again, using it to disengage.

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Speaker 1: She won't let me go to her JIM, and she

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Speaker 1: refuses to go to mine. Her Jim is her place,

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Speaker 1: My gym is my place, and that's just the way

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Speaker 1: it has to be according to her. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: have her come along with me. I've invited her multiple times. Also,

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Speaker 1: she's eighteen weeks pregnant right now. This is our first baby.

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Speaker 1: She worked out like crazy prior to the pregnancy, and

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Speaker 1: she continues just as hard now. I truly didn't think

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Speaker 1: she was cheating on me. People suggested it in the

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Speaker 1: last thread and I laugh. You can tell she's at

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Speaker 1: the gym a lot. She's in great shape. Maybe she's

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Speaker 1: working out in other ways, so she's obviously going there.

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Speaker 1: I felt really confident about the cheating issues, and when

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Speaker 1: I was posting nine days ago, I wasn't even considering cheating.

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Speaker 2: But maybe something's changed.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm embarrassed to admit that. After reading a lot

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Speaker 1: has her phone on her, but she left it in

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Speaker 1: decided to do a quick swipe through her text.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the trust is breaking, the relationship is not making,

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Speaker 2: it's going downhill.

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Speaker 1: She had a current text conversation going on with a guy.

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Speaker 1: I recognize the name, the name of a guy from

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Speaker 1: the gym. She mentions a lot she's friends with a

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Speaker 1: last fall. I wasn't too terribly concerned until I started

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Speaker 1: reading the text. Never wanted to know what the guys

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Speaker 2: But I know now A probably am I working it out?

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Speaker 3: Enough?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How's this form?

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Speaker 2: How's my progress? Who?

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Speaker 1: My four are veins match? My veins doesn't match?

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Speaker 2: Ma'am?

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Speaker 1: You want to be consistent? You want to be consistent, Sabe.

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Speaker 2: It's pure, Yeah, it's it's all working out. It's about

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Speaker 2: a bodybuilding like convention. You know. He just wants to

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Speaker 2: be consistent. That's one of the things he's working out.

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Speaker 2: He means to see if he's making true.

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Speaker 1: Pros and he needs a spatter and I'm there, wow,

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Speaker 1: holding him? There you go, hands free, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: She was only out of the room for literally about

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Speaker 1: a minute or two, so I had to scroll fast.

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Speaker 1: I was furious. I asked her what the f that

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Speaker 1: conversation was about? You started yelling at me for looking

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Speaker 1: at her phone. I told her she's acting so weird

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Speaker 1: and the gym obsession was really bothering me. So I

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Speaker 1: just decided to look and was ashamed that I did.

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Speaker 1: But that's it, and I thought i'd find nothing at all,

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Speaker 1: she said, it's nothing, it's nothing. Didn't look like nothing

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Speaker 1: to me a lot. It looked huge, stanging, massive. She

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Speaker 1: sure seemed pretty interested in this nothing. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: know if she's been Effingham and for how long is

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Speaker 1: the kid his? Because of the obsession with the Jim

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Speaker 1: started before the child and interesting, she said, I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: we even had time. Yes, but you know who did

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Speaker 1: have time, plenty of time. Mister Vans, mister Jim Jim,

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Speaker 1: mister Jim Vaines.

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Speaker 1: Jim Vanes is kind of a sick corn name, kind

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Speaker 2: It is Riley. Can you look it up? Is that

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Speaker 2: a name? Yeah? Sure, okay, it's it's open. H they

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Speaker 2: Oh, we know it.

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Speaker 1: That's a slogan Jim goes deep. You won't admit to

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Speaker 2: Gaslighting. Don't get to play that card. Nope, not my

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Speaker 1: But I honestly wanted to body slam her after she

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Speaker 2: Don't do that? Correct? Correct? But we do have another update? Okay, Doki,

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Speaker 2: do you have another up? Dope?

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Speaker 1: But I think the big question is is there more

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Speaker 1: Does it does it change what he should do?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What what do we think we should do? And does

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Speaker 2: I do? So? Okay? So what what what are the

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Speaker 1: many already grounds for me cheating. I would I don't

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Speaker 2: I would cut it. I don't know if this is

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Speaker 3: I would definitely ask how because in four months from now,

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Speaker 1: Oh, but they're probably having They're probably hooking up like

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Speaker 2: I don't know she I don't think she would have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, but he said, oh, I'm surprised that

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Speaker 2: doing it period? Yes? But I do not think frequently.

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Speaker 1: It was like the average amount of times you have

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Speaker 2: It only takes once. It takes once. There you go.

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Speaker 1: But let's get back to the story. Oh wait, wait

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Speaker 2: more importantly, her reaction to him finding out and showing

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Speaker 2: in ter Yeah, there's no remote gaslighting. So it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: You don't. Actually, that's what that tells me.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a chance that it is his kid.

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Speaker 3: But give me a percentage.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say forty to seventy percent.

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Speaker 3: Seventy percent that it's its kid. Give me a percentage

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Speaker 3: like yeah, boom, one percentage fifty fifty percent that it's

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Speaker 2: Going to us.

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Speaker 3: You said eighty said eighty, Well that is not or

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Speaker 1: I think it's eighty percent chance that it's not his kid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the twenty percent chance, I think it's like, yeah, fifty.

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Speaker 3: You're giving a ten.

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Speaker 2: But let us get in to the update. Today.

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Speaker 1: My wife asked me to stay home from work so.

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Speaker 2: We could quote unquote talk.

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Speaker 1: She laid in bed all day yesterday trying to get

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Speaker 1: I left. She kept texting me things like, who just

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Speaker 2: Who is that cold and callous to go hook up

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Speaker 1: I mean, you get a pick from Jim Vans and

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Speaker 1: stayed home today to talk to her. She was full

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Speaker 1: makes her feel good. It's fun for her. She met

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Speaker 1: Already a red flag if you have to say that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Also already a red flag if you're flirting with a

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Speaker 2: Like letting him know what's happening. He's like, hey, just

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Speaker 2: so you know. This guy tried to do this.

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Speaker 1: According to her, he kept flirting with her anyway and said, sure,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeahde what do you do with squats and you're

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Speaker 1: She admitted to enjoying it, but also feeling that it

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Speaker 2: She was not.

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Speaker 1: She must have not felt that bad because she slept

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Speaker 1: She described it like falling in love with somebody for

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Speaker 1: is she in love with him? She doesn't know. Oh,

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Speaker 1: my god, is this baby mine? She thinks so, but

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Speaker 1: But they were sleeping together at the time. She got pregnant. Okay,

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Speaker 1: why she did this. She doesn't know what she thinks

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Speaker 2: She had the balls to ask me that the gungness

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Speaker 2: I told her, of course.

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Speaker 1: I'm leaving her, and I wouldn't raise an other man's child.

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Speaker 1: She seems shocked. He said, really, with everything we have

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Speaker 1: She was crying the whole time. Not tears. I am

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Speaker 1: and meant to try to make me feel bad, feel

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Speaker 2: I wonder, and let me know what you think. Let

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Speaker 2: me know what you all think of the comments. I

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Speaker 2: wonder if she always assumed and actually believes that he

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Speaker 1: strong enough that he didn't even consider it. A postil

441
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 1: Reddit step dead and said he arrives cheating on aha, yes.

442
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 2: Reddit and then and then now the reason why she's

443
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 2: crying and upset is because she's shocked. He's shocked. Yeah,

444
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: that he actually would be. But that's that's such as

445
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 2: the most unfair thing in the world to expect your

446
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 2: partner to have to stay with you. Oh yeah, and

447
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: raise somebody else. Yeah.

448
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: It's not even like, oh, you're gonna leave me because

449
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: I cheated. No, no, no, she's like, you you're you're not

450
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 1: gonna leave me, just if the baby isn't yours?

451
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 2: Right, That is the crazy. That's the great Like that

452
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 2: is insane.

453
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: She's assuming he's gonna stay obviously if they cheated, but

454
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 1: she's now saying like like that that I think that's

455
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 1: what is is most bonkers to me. If she is like,

456
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna stay regardless. The only way he possibly couldn't stay,

457
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: but in my mind he actually is going to stay

458
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: is if the baby isn't his. Yeah, insane, It's it's crazy.

459
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: But there is another update, Oh my god, where it

460
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: gets worse.

461
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 2: Say it ain't so.

462
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: My thought if you love two people to go with

463
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 3: the second one, if you actually love the first one,

464
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have a second.

465
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: Damn well if you one counterpoint, if you fall in

466
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 2: love with someone I guess like by accident, but you

467
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 2: never act on it. That's very different than this scenario here, right, Yeah,

468
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 2: but yeah, I generally think you're you're like you've allowed

469
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: someone else in and.

470
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, if your heart is conflicted about two people

471
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 3: and which one to choose, go with the second one.

472
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: The more recent one. Always choose the more recent love.

473
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you love the first one, then you wouldn't

474
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 3: let the second one.

475
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never would have let it happen. I guess.

476
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: I guess that's true as long as you don't believe

477
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 2: in love at first sight.

478
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 1: Or don't believe you could love multiple people at the

479
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: same time. Yeah, Which, it's just old Southern saying poly

480
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: couples would disagree.

481
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: That's true.

482
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll disagree with poly couples.

483
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: But we're still going to fight you. Yeah, dude, agree?

484
00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 3: Is that okay? Is it?

485
00:22:59,440 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 2: Okay?

486
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't do poll people let us know. But let's

487
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: get into this update. My life has been reduced to

488
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: a trashy daytime talk show. The woman who was once

489
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 1: my wife, who I consider a classy woman, has turned

490
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: into complete trailer trash. Today, she announced she's moving in

491
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: with her affair partner from the gym. Wow, she's pregnant,

492
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: might be his kid, might be mine. She's too embarrassed

493
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: to get blood drawn for a paternity test. Does he

494
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: not have like, does op not have some kind of

495
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: like can he not force that?

496
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 2: Like? Doesn't she have to? That is a great point. Hmmm,

497
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: I wonder and maybe this is something you can quickly

498
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: chatchypt riley if I feel like there is some sort

499
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 2: of law for like women to be able to request

500
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: a guy for a potnity.

501
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: Can a man legally request paternity for a child for

502
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: a child?

503
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very curious to see.

504
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: Like, I feel like you can request paternity if you're

505
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: legally required to pay like some kind of like.

506
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: If you're married, because then that would imply some legal

507
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: very depending on the jurisdiction.

508
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: In many places, a man can legally request a paternity

509
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: test determined if he is the biological father of a child,

510
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: regardless of whether there has been an affair within the marriage,

511
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: under disputed paternity the presumption of paternity a court order.

512
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can go to court and be like, hey,

513
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 2: there's a dispute, I don't think this child is mine

514
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: and you can get a court ordered paternity test essentially.

515
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: Yes, right, so you have to, like especially in custody arrangements.

516
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because this would be like I'm either taking custody

517
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: or like going to provide I'm going to be a

518
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 2: parent to this child legal guardian or not, depending on

519
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: if the child is minor. Totally I feel like that

520
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: he could probably are you get this legally request? I

521
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: want to know the comments We've never seen that we've

522
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: never seen people Well, I can't remember a case going

523
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 2: to court. It's just like whether they agreet to or not,

524
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: like on a personal level.

525
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, but also court proceedings are tough. This is true,

526
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: But let's get going. She spent about a week trying

527
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: to get my attention, to get her to talk to

528
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: get me to talk to her, to get me to

529
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: beg her to be mine. If us the fall for

530
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: any of it, I've largely been ignoring her, and when

531
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: we have to speak, I keep it very brief. We've

532
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: been living together this whole time. Oh, but I'm in

533
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: a different room now and functioning separate from her in

534
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: all ways. So her pouting and trying to get me

535
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: to pay attention to her and give her a gold

536
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: star for not going to the gym for five days

537
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: in a row didn't work. Today, she texted me to

538
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: say she's moving in with him.

539
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the best way to get back with him.

540
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: Be like, Okay, you won't respond to me, Fine, I'll

541
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 2: just move in with him. Eh.

542
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what her plan is.

543
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: Get more, boykin' dude, that's her plan.

544
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. Go to the gym, get more,

545
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: get attention where she can get it more. Jimmy Devens.

546
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 1: Somehow I still care about this person. I've already met

547
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: with a lawyer. Though I can care about her as

548
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: a human being and the possible mother of my child

549
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: without being married to her. Still it's stung to hear

550
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: her say she was going to be with him.

551
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

552
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told her it wasn't a smart move to

553
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: leave the house. I've even told her she should probably

554
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: meet with a lawyer. She doesn't care about anything I

555
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: have to say. I don't think she needs to move

556
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: in with anybody. I actually feel bad for her, and

557
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: she can't that she can't just be on her own.

558
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: I asked her if he actually knew she was pregnant

559
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: and wanted to know what story she's been telling him

560
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: this whole time. She said, he knows, and he doesn't

561
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: care if it's my baby. He loves her and wants

562
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: to be with her.

563
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 2: Bizarre.

564
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: You can't find anyone else, somebody who isn't a married

565
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: pregnant woman. Why would you take that on? Does it

566
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: make sense to me? He's scum, But he's good looking

567
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: scum who apparently is gainfully employed and owns his own home.

568
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: So you can't tell me that my married pregnant wife

569
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: is your only option here. I just can't imagine being

570
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: a single guy like that and wanting to put up

571
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: with this baggage when you could have other options.

572
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I think, but I think he

573
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: just wants to keep hooking up with her.

574
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just But I mean, if do you think

575
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: she's being forthright that she's pregnant and the child could

576
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: be his?

577
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I get this, she is only eighteen weeks,

578
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: but I imagine, I imagine, like for her her safety

579
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: and the baby safety, she would probably want to tell him, right.

580
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like she's obviously not doing what's in anyone's interest,

581
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 1: including her own.

582
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: True, but like in the in the in the sense

583
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: of like maybe there's a position or something that would

584
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: put the baby and her in jeopardy, like when they're

585
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 2: hooking up, right, I mean, I mean, there could be

586
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: a something you can have pregnant, You can absolutely have

587
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 2: sell pregnant. However, if he's just doing if he's just

588
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: going going crazy, and they have certain positions and other

589
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: things that could potentially put the baby at risk, I

590
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: don't think so, would would she not? Like let's say,

591
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: let's say there's one position they're gunnas Oh wait, wait, wait,

592
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, Like, don't you know.

593
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: I think as long as you're doing doggie, you're chilling.

594
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: But what is if that's literally all they're doing, I mean,

595
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: john sick, woring, come on, come on.

596
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: I don't know.

597
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: I could. I could very much see a scenario where, at.

598
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: Least during a healthy pregnancy, intercourse is generally safe for

599
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: both the mother and the baby a high risk pregnancy

600
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: or specific medical conditions at healthcare provider, it may advise

601
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: against reluctivity. The central for pregnant individuals and their partners

602
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: communicate So I think you're chilling.

603
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 3: It's if the stomach gets pressed.

604
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: I don't think so. You think you think if you

605
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: go to a pregnant woman's stomach and press it in,

606
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: that's not going to be potentially an issue that the

607
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: woman would not I don't think regular would. I'm saying

608
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: it's it's highly possible.

609
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's highly possible. I think I think

610
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: you can have sex with a pregnant, a very pregnant

611
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: woman and it'd be chilling.

612
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: However, you can't tell me that there's like absolutely no

613
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: risk for someone who doesn't know.

614
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: I mean at the point where it's risky, he would

615
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: know she was pregnant.

616
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: If you were hooking up with a pregnant woman, would

617
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: you not have more have awareness?

618
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: Like I think if she is when you're ly pregnant,

619
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: then I would have awareness. But if she's not visibly pregnant,

620
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: then there's no that there's not like an issue.

621
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: So but the baby is still there, and there's still

622
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: a possibility of.

623
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: The baby is there, but it's like it's not. So

624
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is it is it is not an

625
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: issue when it's not visible. As soon as it is visible,

626
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: maybe it's an issue. But at the point where it's visible,

627
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: the partner would already know. So it's like there's not

628
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: any more information being communicated from the perspective, or any

629
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: secrets not being.

630
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: If you press the stomach of a of a of

631
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: a woman who is in her first trimester, I think

632
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: it's a chilling. You can press on the stomach, press

633
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: right on the baby hard, and there's no issue or

634
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: worries whatsoever.

635
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think you can press on a

636
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: first trimester stomach.

637
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: Go ahead, comments, it's well protected, but it's look at that,

638
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: that's a freaking bean. The bean moves away that the

639
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: bean comments. We have we have a lot of women

640
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: who have had children that watch the show. Let us know,

641
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: let us know the real story and.

642
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: What is pregnant looks like?

643
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: There you go.

644
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: Do you have to worry about the belly?

645
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: Do you have to worry?

646
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: Are you at all worried about crushing your your child.

647
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: Or just feeling feeling uncomfortable? Yeah, Like I feel like

648
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: if I had a baby growing in my stomach, I

649
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: would not feel comfortable with the risk of possibility of

650
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: someone pressing on it. I would not want that. What

651
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: if you're really horny and I would communicate around that thing.

652
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: It's a freaking bean, like a conception. Like you said,

653
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: all the commons take care of this all of the

654
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: it's kill and if.

655
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: This baby really is mine, then what they'll live with?

656
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: My wife and this weasel fifty percent of the time.

657
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how my life turned into this mess.

658
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: And she thinks it's embarrassing to have to go get

659
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: blood drawn. Crazy Welly ninth, twenty twenty four, we got

660
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: another update. My wife moved in with her fair partner

661
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: last weekend. She didn't take very much at all. Most

662
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: of her stuff is still in our house. I still

663
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: get the feeling she was just waiting for me to

664
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: beg her to come home, but I didn't. I didn't

665
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: reach out at all after she left. It was a

666
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: strange mixture of relief, anger, and sadness. I don't think

667
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: I ate at all until last night. I just never

668
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: felt hungry. Drank a little too much, but I'm fine.

669
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm posting this update because I've received a ton of

670
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: messages from people, and honestly, it's emotionally draining to respond

671
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: to each one, and I have to type the same stuff out.

672
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: I just don't feel like talking about her that much.

673
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: So this morning she texted me to say her fair

674
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: partner wants to get a DNA test done.

675
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh now he wants it, and now it's it.

676
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: Come on, dude, I mean we already know where her

677
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: loyalties lie. Yeah, for real to Jim Vanes, Jim Vanes,

678
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: look at that didn't matter when I wanted one, But

679
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: now that he has requested it, she suddenly thinks it's

680
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: a great idea. She asked if I wanted to submit

681
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: a sample, because it'll be cheaper to have two dads

682
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: tested as part of one package. I don't even care

683
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: about the cost at this point. I just want an answer.

684
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't have to see or interact with him at all.

685
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: I just have to make my own appointment with the

686
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: lab to get my cheek swabbed. So this Saturday, I'm

687
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: going to do that and we should have the results

688
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: within a week. All take what I can at this point,

689
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: because it's better than her dragging this out another twenty weeks.

690
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: So that's it. I'm fine. I'm going to work every day,

691
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: try to function. Just feel like I'm stuck in limbo.

692
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: I miss her, honestly, I hate that she's there with

693
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: him makes me sick. Part of me does want a

694
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: beggar to come home. It'll be even worse if I

695
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: find out that it's my baby and she's there with him.

696
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: Unless he drops her at that news, I won't let

697
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: myself beg her. I won't plan any of those games

698
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: with her.

699
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: It's tough if it is his kid, because then it's

700
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: like okay now, because if not, he can just completely

701
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: cut off and move on with his life. It is.

702
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: There is an update. Oh, and I think we get

703
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: clarity on the results of the paternity test, maybe literally,

704
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: And I'm going to go into some relevant comments first, though,

705
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: Tti survivor says, have you gotten the paternity test results?

706
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: Opie responds, at eleven am this morning, I got the

707
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: news that I am the boss. Oh, I feel incredibly

708
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: conflicted right now. Jacob Bryant says, is she asked me

709
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: to come back home or is she still planning on

710
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: staying with the other guy? Regardless, this is a rough situation.

711
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for you, bro. Opie responds, we haven't talked,

712
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: and then Jacob responds, understandable, but I think you should

713
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: try instead of a meeting with her somewhere in public,

714
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: to discuss the pregnancy and the future in general with her.

715
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: Whether or not your marriage is going to end, the

716
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: kid is still going to be a big part of

717
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: your life, so it would be best to see where

718
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: both of you stand in that regard. Also, Ricarl you

719
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: saying earlier that you think that your wife would listen

720
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: to what her affair partner would say to her or something.

721
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: Similar to that.

722
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: So now that it's not his kid, I would be

723
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: concerned about him pressuring her into getting a termination. So

724
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: I think you really should talk to your wife about

725
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: your unborn child and whatnot. Great point, Opie responds, We

726
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: definitely need to talk, but I got the news in

727
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: the middle of the workday, so I wasn't in the

728
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: mood to have a full blown conversation with her. I

729
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: think I need to sort of wrap my head around

730
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: the reality of it all before I say too much

731
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:47,439
Speaker 1: to her. Anyway, And there is another update, another one,

732
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: and it's another last and final update.

733
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: Oh wow. The conclusion of wow.

734
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: But I feel like I didn't even think about that.

735
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: But Opie should definitely talk to her, possible to definitely

736
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: talk to her.

737
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not just twenty years, it is the

738
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: rest of their lives because this is their child, like

739
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: your child, hopefully you're involved in your child's life after

740
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: their eighteen or twenty. Like, if you were in this situation,

741
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: would you have preferred that it actually wasn't your kid?

742
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, yeah, of course. It's so much more

743
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: painful than it is because now it's just like being

744
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: confronted with this painful moment is something that I Am

745
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: going to have to think about kind of.

746
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: Forever, constantly in your face for the rest of your life,

747
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: till the day that you're six feet deep in the dirt.

748
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: But there is an update. Let's close it up.

749
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: Is an update, So what do you got? March fifteenth,

750
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. My wife has been having an affair

751
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: with a guy she met at the gym for at

752
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: least nearly a year. She's around twenty two weeks pregnant

753
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: right now. She was somewhere around seventeen weeks when I

754
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: discovered she was cheating. She maintained that she was positive

755
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: I was a father, but then refuse to get a

756
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: paternity test done to ease my mind. We recently had

757
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: the paternity test done at the request of her affair partner,

758
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: and it proves the baby is mine. It's been very mixed.

759
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: It's been very mixed emotions for me, very up and down.

760
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: Originally I thought I just wanted to be completely done

761
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: with her and not have any lifelong ties in the

762
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: form of a full blown human being.

763
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: We shared.

764
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: But but but I was sort of happy or relieved

765
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: when I got the results. I had already had it

766
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: in my mind that I was going to be a

767
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: father for months before I found out she was cheating.

768
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just have moments where I can't believe this

769
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: is my life, that this is the situation that my

770
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: kid will be born into, and I hate her for it.

771
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: And she is still living with him. All her belongings

772
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: are still at her house. I refuse to do the

773
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: work of packing everything up for her. She doesn't seem

774
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: concerned about taking any of her things beyond the essentials.

775
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: After we got the news that I'm the baby's father,

776
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: she texted me to say she's glad I'm the father

777
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: and that she he knows I'll be a great dad.

778
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: She was texting me new baby name ideas last night.

779
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: Oh I hate this. She's tried calling me, but I

780
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: ignore the calls. I only speak with her via text

781
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: this morning. She asked if she could come by and

782
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: get a few things. I told her it was fine,

783
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: as I've been advised by a lawyer to not prevent

784
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: her entry from the home. But I told her that

785
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: he'd better not be with her. Well, who shows up

786
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: but the scum bag boyfriend.

787
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: You've got to be kidding me.

788
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: He walks right on into the house behind her, like

789
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: it's no big deal. She ran upstairs to get the

790
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: stuff she wanted, and he and I were left standing

791
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: there in the living room. He told me it wasn't

792
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: her fault that he was here. She told him I

793
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: didn't want him to come, but he forced his way along.

794
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: He wanted to talk to me, supposedly, tell me he

795
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: understands how I must be feeling.

796
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: Go get out of here.

797
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: I understand what you must be feeling sometimes when I

798
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: do a huge set in the Jim, yeah, I fail too,

799
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: just kind of like how you failed in your life.

800
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: Wow, you're so right, bro. I need to freak it,

801
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: you know what. I need to hit the gym and

802
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: become a sigma like you. Bro. Yeah, dude, hit the

803
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: bench with me. Let's go. Jim Bros. Jim Bros. Let's

804
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: freaking go. It's Jim Vain. Oh God, no, you don't know.

805
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: He told me he knows. I probably don't believe him,

806
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 1: but he genuinely loves her and knew he probably wasn't

807
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: the father. He accepts it, and then tried to assure

808
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: me he won't try to take my place with the

809
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: baby and hopes we can just get along since we're

810
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: both going to be in her life now. He promises

811
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,959
Speaker 1: that she's fine and he's looking after her. I told

812
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: him that I couldn't, for the life of me, imagine

813
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: what he wanted with a pregnant woman who's having another

814
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: man's child. That I found it weird. Then I told

815
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: him if he didn't get out of my house, I'd

816
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: punch him. I went upstairs and she was trying to

817
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: find something in the bathroom. I got mad and asked

818
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: her why she brought him along, and told her I

819
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: find it really strange that he wants to be with

820
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: her now that he knows he has nothing to do

821
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: with the baby, and that I refuse to let him

822
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: have anything to do with my child. She said he

823
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: talked her into coming, and she's sorry and never meant

824
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: for any of this. Happened, but she's in love with

825
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: him now. He is supposedly what thirty year old her

826
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: is looking for, not me. She's setting up a nursery

827
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: in his house and I can set up one in

828
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: my house. And she has no intention of trying to

829
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: get full custy or anything like that. She doesn't want

830
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: to keep me from being involved in my child's life.

831
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: How generous of her. She went back downstairs and I

832
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: followed her, and he was still standing there in the

833
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: living room, and I just walked up to him and

834
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: punched him.

835
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 3: He didn't say if you don't get out of my house,

836
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: I will punch me.

837
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: He did order him.

838
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: Oh my Godess stumped back and fell into a table.

839
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: She yelled, what the f over to him. I don't

840
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: even care at this point, as if he's going to

841
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: call the cops. He deserved it, and it wouldn't have

842
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: happened had he just left like I told him to.

843
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: Oh.

844
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: Several hours later, she texted me to say she was

845
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: sorry about today. He really meant what he said, and

846
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: he's actually a good guy and cares about her, and

847
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: he respects me. What deaf he respects me? He was

848
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: screwing my wife in the gym locker room.

849
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: Literally.

850
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: I was like, you can't be serious. She said, fine,

851
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have a mature conversation about this. I

852
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: hate that she's taking the high road right now. I

853
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: can't help that we're in love, believe it or not.

854
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hurt you, and I want everything

855
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: to be amicable. This guy stole my wife and he's

856
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: stealing my kid too. Sure I'm the actual father, but

857
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: now they're setting up a nursery together in his house.

858
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: I've tried to not feel jealous or sad. I've tried

859
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: to maintain the thought that he's a trash man who

860
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: picked up my garbage. Sometimes I feel that way, but

861
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: the truth is that I loved her. I still love her.

862
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to stay married to her unprincipal alone.

863
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: But this is devastating to me, and I'm devastated.

864
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: That's where it ends.

865
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, that's this sucks painful.

866
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: This is pure pain because honestly, like I mean, there's

867
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: a few things here, like him going up to him

868
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: and actually being like, hey, I'm going to take good

869
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: care of her. I worry, I got you go and

870
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: your baby. But honestly, I mean, would you not prefer

871
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: him to like act and be that way?

872
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, around for child period that he's taking

873
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: the high road to be like, bro, I respect you, Yeah,

874
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Speaker 1: like literally after your wife.

875
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: Like I I'm me, I would be like, I'm at

876
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 2: least glad that he seems to care about my child

877
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 2: and my child's mother at the very least the child

878
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: is going to maybe grow up with a good support system.

879
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: I have you have at least care and attention directed

880
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: towards the baby. But it's soul crushing. But it is

881
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: so crushing, absolutely soul crushing. Is O p the a

882
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: hole for punching him in the face?

883
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 3: I mean like no, absolutely not absolutely not. I mean

884
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: it's his house, yes, or not to bring her and

885
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: he said, please get off my property. Not the a

886
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: whole at all.

887
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: It's the it's to get off my property. Yes, yes,

888
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: man needs a win. He destroyed. Yes, it is not

889
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: a good thing to punch someone who has not threatened

890
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: physical violence on you. But I totally understand why he did.

891
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, so for the for the affair partner, for

892
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: Jim Vains, I don't think he can be mad about

893
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: getting punched in the face. I really are.

894
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: In the guy's house. You stole his wife and his baby,

895
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: Like what did you expect?

896
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: And like, I do actually think it is a good

897
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: move to in general be like, okay, let me let

898
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,479
Speaker 2: me make sure I'm at least taking care of this woman,

899
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 2: taking care of his baby, like whatever, and maybe communicating

900
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: to him. But he also explicitly said do not bring

901
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: I'm totally fine with you my soon to be ex

902
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 2: wife coming in here, but do not bring him in here.

903
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: And then he argued with her to be like, no,

904
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: just let me let me come and talk with you.

905
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: Guy, okay, question, yes, question, I mean bad of him

906
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: to go against Opie's wishes, Yes, but after having stolen

907
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: Opie's wife, I kind of feel like Jim Vains has

908
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: actually been a fairly stand up guy. Yes two eight

909
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: degree yes, yes, yes, you know, like fairly stand up.

910
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: I think I think offering to take care of a

911
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: baby that wasn't his, say I'm going to take care

912
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: of her really well yep, and he's just like, hey,

913
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: like I just want to know, like you to know

914
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: that I'm there for you man, basically going to take

915
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: care of her, and you know, That's why I'm saying,

916
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't you prefer Jim? I just don't like that Jim

917
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: Vains is taking the high roads.

918
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: It is in fury. He's doing the thing is he's

919
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: doing it well. I think I think long term OP

920
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: will actually appreciate that Jim Vains is this way. But

921
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: in this moment right now, you do want to punch

922
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: him in the face. You really, you really just want

923
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: to do you know what I'm saying. So I you

924
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: know what I will say, Jim Vains can't be mad. However,

925
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: I will say Op is the a hole because a moment,

926
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Speaker 2: in that moment, in that moment, because I I if

927
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Speaker 2: I'm in Op's position, I'm like, I am going to

928
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: do everything that you're You're not going to have anything

929
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: on me. Oh well you did this, you did that. No,

930
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: I was, I was here, I was a good husband,

931
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Speaker 2: all this stuff.

932
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: Basically do all this to me. And you know that

933
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: moment sullies all of the very the very tempered. That

934
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: moment and the moment he threw the phone on the

935
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: ground are the two moments where he was he diverted

936
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Speaker 1: from being like the completely nice end and good person.

937
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: It's actually possible that this guy has legitimate anger issues.

938
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Speaker 2: To be honest, not not saying that those moments can't

939
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: elessit a very strong emotion. I know, I know, I know,

940
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: I know, you.

941
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: Mean, I know threw the phone on the ground.

942
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: But it's like, if you saw that Sam had a

943
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 3: pick of me on his phone, wouldn't you get mad?

944
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: Dide I be like congrats.

945
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: If this happened to me, I wouldn't throw a phone

946
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: on the ground.

947
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, right, So, like, it's possible that

948
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: this and these are by the way, this is coming

949
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 2: from Opie's perspective, and then these two. It's it's possible.

950
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he does. I'm just saying it's possible.

951
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: Anyways, in conclusion, is lambasting Opie. Has he not been

952
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: through enough?

953
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 2: John? Yeah, bros?

954
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: For issues? You know?

955
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, this sucks. Why do you get a grip, op.

956
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: Op Just it's not like your whole life was ruined.

957
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: OPI can't win, OPI, OPI truly can't win. But yeah, man,

958
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: this is this is a tough one. It's a tough one.

959
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: This sucks. It sucks. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, We're sorry.

960
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: If I was in this situation, I would cry. I

961
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: would cry so hard.

962
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: Every day, every day for twenty years, for the rest

963
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: of my life. Bro, I will cry for the rest

964
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: of my life. But you know what, like you know what,

965
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: I never cry about. What when we get to read

966
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: this next story,