WEBVTT - #89 - K Camp 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:11.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, all right, all right, check 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:14.680 it out man. Welcome to the bootlet Camp Podcast. Another edition. 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:18.319 Damn it. Shot to the homie Kcamp who pulled up 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.160 on us, very underrated artists who's been doing this thing, 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:22.560 got a lot of hit records. Man, so we got 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:23.759 to chop it up with him. But we got a 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.040 shout out to our guys at odds socks. Make sure 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:29.040 you go to odd socksoficial dot com. Yo. They bring 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.320 you the podcast every single episode, and you can use 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:35.600 the keyword bootleg cav get twenty percent off at odd 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.199 socksoficial dot com. Go get you some socks. 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Ten minutes ago, I say undefeated. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.160 Now they underrated. Yeah, man, talk talk to me like, 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.800 obviously you've been on a run. I feel like when 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.560 was when did when was cut that bitch off? Like 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.040 twenty fourteen fourteen, So we're going on seven eight years now, 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.560 you know what I'm saying. And I feel like you've 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.680 just been so consistent with putting out just for hits. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:28.920 For sure. It's my bloodline at this point, you know 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.000 what I'm saying. Yeah, Man, like people got to know 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.200 I make music. Do you feel like you get enough 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.480 credit though? Now? Yet it's coming though every every I 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.320 feel like every artist go through this shit, you know 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.880 what I'm saying, Like even the Drakes even you know 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:42.560 what I'm saying, everybody went through that period of time 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.040 where all this shit been Future it went through it. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.680 Future definitely when he went through it, it was it 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.480 was one point. It's this tweet I'm trying to find 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.600 to this day. Future tweeted he was like, man, the 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.560 motherfucker keep playing me, Like I ain't dropping, you know, 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.200 just popping his shit, and I think, like a year later, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.280 that's my future. You know. You know what's crazy you 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.000 said about him, Becau. I remember having that conversation because 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:07.000 Future put out Tony Montana and Magic going crazy. Yeah, 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.639 but like people really weren't paying attention until he went 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.120 on that mixtape run exactly he put Pluto out and 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.160 don't really care exactly, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.640 he had to have one record no one cares, so 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.040 I'd be like that, you know what I'm saying. You 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.760 gotta just you gotta know where you at as an artist, 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.120 know where you want to be mentally, you know what 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.480 I'm saying, and keeps it, putting that work into and 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.760 shit crat. I feel like to you you have like 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.079 a bunch of different bags you could you could tap 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.680 into as an artist, like you put out like like 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.919 Kiss five was crazy. Like when you do like something 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.320 from the Kiss series, it's more melodic, more for the 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.040 ladies compared to when you do, like your new album 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.200 that's coming out, is it is it a different approach 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.920 or is that kind of like give me that The 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.919 thought process behind with the Kiss projects as as mainly 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:52.720 R and B. Right, you know what I'm saying, it's 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.400 catering to my female fan base because they love that shit, 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:57.400 you get what I'm saying. But when I really like 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.440 create my alms, like my first album came out with 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:01.720 all the Way Is Up, One Way, all my you 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.160 know what I'm saying, real, I wouldn't say not real 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:08.520 ALUs all real albums, but it's a you're pulling from 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.799 everywhere I'm making I'm making trap shit, I'm making ship 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.040 for the females, I'm making vibe shit. I make ship 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.400 for the club, and it's all one you know what 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:19.920 I'm saying. Project, But Kiss series just straight female. So 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.079 I like to balance the bags though, But I'd rather 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.120 do everything you want. So you like to just do 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:26.560 it all. I like to just make music and put 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:27.919 it all together and make it you know what I'm saying, 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:29.760 Make it flow the right way. You know, it's all 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:31.480 about the flow and just the vibe of the project. 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.399 So you gotta really be you know what I'm saying, 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.480 mindful lot of what you put on there and how 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.520 that ship moving through the project. Yeah, I feel like 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.720 to like you know, when you think of like just 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:42.480 the range of you as an artist, you cut that 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.680 bitch off all the way to like a record like comfortable. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.360 It's totally different, right, dif from worlds. Yeah, And if 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.840 you just go on your Spotify and pick whatever projects 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:52.640 you have a lot of a lot of people, you 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.280 got a lot of discography. Ship could depending on what 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:57.640 you listen to, you and be like, wait, this is 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.280 this is the same guy for sure? Now it's facts, Yeah, 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:01.400 but it have been like that. You know what I'm 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.760 saying that just I'm a songwriter first, you get what 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.520 I'm saying. So it's to the point where you can 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:08.240 put any instrumental in front of me and I'm just 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.240 I'm a vibe out on that bitch. I don't go 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.800 in the studio saying I'm about to make this record 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.120 right or this is what I'm on today. I just 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.240 whatever I hear, that's what I'm giving. That's fair. Man. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.960 What do you think has held you back from being 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:27.680 like a superstar myself? Why why do you say that 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.680 me being naive in the beginning. You know what I'm saying, 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.480 not really listening to you know what I'm saying the 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.080 advice people, not everybody, but you know what I'm saying, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.320 it's a certain few people that just told me certain 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.599 things I should do and what I shouldn't do. But 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.160 at the same time, I feel like this shit plan 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.080 out the way I wanted to play out. You get 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.960 what I'm saying, Like I get. I hear that all 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:47.520 the time about the superstar. I should be bigger than 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.279 should be bigger than what I am now. But what's bigger? 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.680 You know what I'm saying like this, I think I 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.719 think that when I think of k Camp, I think 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.560 of this guy's got a lot of hit records. Yeah, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.720 for sure, I definitely should be way you got hits. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.640 But but I feel like that there's it's hard. It's 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:03.520 you know, I feel like the music part is easy 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.600 for you, right. I feel like the other the other 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.960 side of it is like the exposure. It's the exposure 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.760 and how do you get people to care about you? 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:11.840 As long as my fans care, I don't give a 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.000 damn who else care. So as long as I can 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.120 sell our shows and continue to make money and put 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.599 out great bodies of work and and and tour and 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.599 do the same ship the motherfucker popping doing, make the 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.640 same Listen, you're popping up like when you say, I 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.120 hear what you're saying. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:31.560 Like it's it's really just it's it's that, it's that exposure, man, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.160 It's it's the media. You know what I'm saying. Once 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.440 we tap into you know, the propaganda. You know, I 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.040 don't do that. You don't get into any of the controversies. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:42.400 Exactly the thing that leads to act looks you ask 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.720 some music on top of you. You know what I'm saying. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.600 But I like to stand my lane and make sure 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.200 my business together and make sure everything that's that's running 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.039 on my ends is operating on the on the on 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.839 the right level. You mentioned, uh being a songwriter first, 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:58.160 how often do you lend your pen to other artists recently? 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.240 Not that much, you know what I'm saying, Because to 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.680 the point where I was just having this conversation the 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.360 other day, I had wrote a verse for Beyonce this 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.159 Savage remix. You know what I'm saying, But my verse 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.160 don't get used and just off that simple fact of 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.000 me taking my time on my day to write some shit, 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:14.719 and it don't get you. I ain't got time to 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.400 be you know what I'm saying. Just pausing my day 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.560 to get a placement. So I don't know. It's it's 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:23.320 if I get if I get a call, I'm you 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.400 know what I'm saying, Say Beyonce Orrinda call me right now, 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.479 say come to the studio and write this pull up. 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:30.920 But I'm not about to do the middle man. Send 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.599 it to somebody sent. Yeah. Now that's the hustle and 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:36.360 bustle of the It's like the producer game. I be 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.400 feeling bad. A producers be really just chomping at the 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.320 bitch just to get that place, to get that placement. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:42.479 You know what I'm saying, And I ain't got time 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:43.960 for that. If it's direct, I'm with it. But as 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.240 far as like, I ain't doing that run around. So 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.359 with the Beyonce situation, someone had reached out to a 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.320 middle person that reached out to you. He really was 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.400 in the middle man. He was he was the man, right, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.960 But you know what I'm saying, Like before that, before 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.320 I wrote that, I ain't really wrote nobody shit in 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.960 a minute. I don't even always. So you just submitted 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:02.680 a verse. I was just doing he said beyond was 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.560 like ship all right, been right? But you know what 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.600 I'm saying, when it Atlanta, I'm like, come on, man, 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.160 you should just kept whoever you call first. They got 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:10.680 the verse. You know what I'm saying, Lamb to do it? 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.640 You feel me? But ain't no, ain't no bad feelings, 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.800 bad blood. That's the game. Do you know if she 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.760 cut the verse or you don't know, I never met 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.360 beyond her, that'd mean yeah, I mean, that'd be crazy. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.520 I'd be crazy. Though. I'm gonna get one though. You 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.680 know who? Like you know you mentioned beyond to Beyonce's legend, 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.760 but like who? Who are the artists that you still 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.440 aspire to be in the same room as that you 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:35.560 haven't yet mad or worked with? Of course, Jay, you 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.080 know what I'm saying, Me and me and me and 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:43.160 Drake Overdue. It's a lot, man, It's a lot of 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.120 talented artists in the game. I still want to want 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:46.440 to tap in with. You know what I'm saying. I 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.040 can name one hundred artists, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:51.720 Just the people that y'all ain't hurt me with yet, 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:53.200 you know what I'm saying. The thugs, you know what 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.320 I'm saying, Like people in my city, that's you know 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:56.840 what I'm saying. Got a wave going people in l 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.360 A Me and watch still ain't got one on a 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.400 hot to hell. Yeah, you've been like super appain on 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.200 the West Coast too for ye years. Well y G 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:03.800 was on the cut Off remix. But I don't count 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:05.400 you know what I'm saying, Like it's a lot of 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.480 folks that I fucked with on the music. You know 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.760 what I'm saying. Level, I'm like ship once that time come, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:11.960 I don't never force nothing. I'll be in my own world. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.680 I do my own thing. So when that, when that, 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:19.520 when that energy happened, it happened, you know, talk give 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.160 me the rundown of this new album. You got some 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.240 dope features, you got PMB rock, moved Ski Trey songs, 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.600 some R and B features, some yeah. Yeah, the album 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.320 it's just to follow up on Kiss five. You get 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.080 what I'm saying. I got one more deal until I'm 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:34.880 fully independing. I'm not one more deal, one more project 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.400 till I'm fully independent. So it's just it's just the 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.320 follow up. It's been a year since I dropped the album. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.800 The last album was Depending in the Pandemic, you know 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.440 what I'm saying, did very well in the pandemic. But 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.040 it's just it's just time for me to you know, 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.040 drop my nuts again, to me ask you this. You're 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:54.160 going independent once the deals up. Of course, I saw 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.679 you at Gazi's birthday party. That's my dog. You're going 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.240 to Empire. I was already with Empire. Okay, so you're 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.160 gonna after this. It's possible. Okay, guys were just talking 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:04.920 like two weeks ago. I mean, I'm saying, I saw 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.280 you got his birthday. Yeah, it's possible. You know what 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.200 I'm saying. I really want to just get a feel 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.839 for it. I ain't been independence down fourteen. You know 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.800 what I'm saying. I'm trying to God damn, because you know, 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:15.839 like I said, I run my own label. I got 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:20.560 my whole whole situation. We got our own distribution, marketing, 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.040 marketing team, uh playlist and team, we got, we got 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.559 the we got the whole nine independently. So you know, 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:27.920 I'm saying, I just want to tap in and see 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:29.719 how much I can do by myself. Give me your 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.240 like rundown because you know, you said, I know one 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:33.840 of your artists on your album, but kind of tell 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.080 me like about your label, the name and just some 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.320 of some of the artists you're working with. Yeah, where 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.079 sound is just you know what I'm saying, what it 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.840 sounds like. You feel me when I was staying out 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.240 here in LA but like twenty sixteen, in the sixteen 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.559 beginning the seventeen, when we had moved back to Atlanta, 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.679 we used to go by slums, slum lords, you know 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:51.679 I'm saying. That's when we was on that. You know 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.160 what I'm saying, that bullshit, wild shit. But we had 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.200 to evolve, you know what I'm saying. During that time, 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.040 I came with the name Rare. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.120 I was really just speaking on my behalf on I 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:01.800 felt like I was as an artist, I was rare. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.760 You know, came back to Atlanta. You know, we've been 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.160 building since twenty seventeen since the Rare Project got dropped 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:09.960 in Atlanta. The first project got dropped when I moved 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.560 back to Atlanta, and it eventually turned the Rare Sound, 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.880 and it just it just became a thing where, you 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:17.480 know what I'm saying, we wanted to do We wanted 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.160 to do something that haven't been done before in the 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.120 game as far as like structure in the business side, 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.120 right you know what I'm saying, a lot of artists 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:25.559 get trapped in these deals and do all this. You 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.040 know what I'm saying, get get bullshit out of money. 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:29.320 And you know what I'm saying, we try to do 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:33.120 fair deals on rare sound end. We give the artists 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.040 full control creativity. You know what I'm saying. They do 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:36.559 it they want whoever the artist is. That's what the 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.080 artists gonna be. You know I'm saying. We can always 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.559 chime in and help them out, but we let everybody 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:44.000 beat them, and it's a win win. If you pop, 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.680 you're gonna get paid. It ain't nobody eating your pockets 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:48.559 up saying. We're just trying to assist you and get 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.560 you going because I went through the ship where my 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.920 shit was fucked up, and I don't want nobody around 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.079 me feeling the same way I felt, because that can 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:58.640 either make or break you. 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It was all the shit, you know 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.840 what I'm saying, not reading contracts, just being just being 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.360 blind to the money, you know what I'm saying, The 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.520 money coming in and not really taking care of business. 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:40.480 And the business ended up biting me in the ass 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.559 few years later, and I had to clean up the business. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.240 And for the past couple of years when people thought 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.480 I was gone, I was cleaning up the business, you 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.440 know what I'm saying. And that took times. To this day, 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.600 I'm still you know what I'm saying. Everything is back 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.360 how it need to be, but it takes time to 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.960 really like take some shit that's fucked up and fix it, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:58.880 put all a piece together by yourself, you know what 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.319 I'm saying, Like really like locked in on some you 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.839 know what I'm saying, Pinky and the Brain ship right, 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.520 you feel me so, But I can't complain the days 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.720 would you say? Like, because a lot of artists, like 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.440 you said, they'll they'll get a deal and they won't 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.600 worry so much about the terms, but they'll maybe they'll 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.160 get that front end advance and they're like, yeah, it's beautiful. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.640 In advance is beautiful, you know what I'm saying, But 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:28.080 it ain't right for people who don't know like what 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.920 is because I always try to tell artists like, look 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.440 like an advance is cool, but it's not. It's really 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.520 all that matters of your terms because you have to 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.360 pay that money back to give it back. You got 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.640 to give it back, and it's most of the time 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:45.080 it's at a really bad rate, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.000 And you know, I think a lot of young artists 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.400 that they make that mistake where they run to whoever 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.400 you always hear about bidding wars and ship You'll be like, well, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.640 who's got the biggest advance? Sometimes it ain't it's not 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.160 about that for the rate, because you can get you 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.040 can get a large as advance and don't you know 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.199 what I'm saying, don't succeed on the other side. I 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.360 mean you talk about White G. You know I was 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.200 talking to White G. I mean this is on video, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:09.840 so it's not like this. He's like, I haven't seen 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.400 any money off my music for real. Yeah, he probably 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:13.959 got a crazy as adan. We didn't know because he 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.800 signed with Depth jam Ian. He just re upped. But 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.160 before that, like he was like bro like when he 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.720 was unhappy with Depth Chamber was because he probably Yeah, 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.000 you gotta know, yo, you got you know what I'm saying, 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.200 got them it's somebody with platinum records. Yeah, I would 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:26.280 have never thought that. You know what I'm saying, You 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.000 gotta have them good lawyers on your You know what 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.320 I'm saying. You gotta be in communication with your lawyer. 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:31.800 You can have a lawyer, but if you ain't talking 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.480 to him. Yeah, Young Blue just told us that, right. Yeah, 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.280 Young Blue was like I got three three was it 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.680 with Colombia? He had three gold records. He's like a 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.640 lot of folks go through that same ship. Ye, but 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.600 you gotta go through. You know what I'm saying. At 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.360 the end of the day, it's how long you're gonna 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.840 you're gonna stand for that ship? You know what I'm saying. 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:50.840 It also like would you rather have the quick nut 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.640 or like the consistent residual bag every month? Exactly? I 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.640 take the residual bag. Yep, you get what I'm saying. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.200 But I went to the same face. You know what 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.680 I'm saying. During that time I'm doing that twenty sixteen 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:03.920 seventeen period, I ain't see a chick. I ain't seen 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.320 music chacking two years. You know what I'm saying. Off 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:07.920 that event, right, I had to live off just you 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:09.480 know what I'm saying, the shoulder I had, you know 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.280 what I'm saying, and the ship I had saved up 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.160 and had to figure the shit out and to the 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:14.680 point where, you know what I'm saying, I did what 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.680 I did, and I cracked, you know what I'm saying, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.120 the conversation with with the with the uppers, you know, 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.080 and shit got straightened. Well, you're also in a great 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.880 position too, because you have like hits, So no matter what, 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:26.600 there's always a bag for you to get. You know 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.040 what I'm saying. You can't. You can't tell me. Yeah, 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.040 even within in the building, Like, you can't tell me 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.200 I ain't making no money, right, you can't tell me 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.040 I ain't making no money. All these records, you can't. 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.080 You can't. Yeah, Like there's like not a lot of 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.520 people are in your position where they have that many 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.880 records where they could be like, yo, fuck the label. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:46.960 I could just go get ten fifteen and your ketalog. Yeah, 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:48.840 let me just list that you can do. Now, let 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.360 me go hit the you know, get the back end 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.760 of whatever club or be straight. Yeah, dolphing them running 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.720 place dogs. Yeah what I'm saying, don't killing that shit. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:01.360 Jesus christis you feel me? Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah, dolphs 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.880 on his ship. Man, is there anybody who you said 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:06.800 you went through it in like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:09.720 anybody like any artists or any any executives that kind 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:11.480 of mentored you through that, that kind of was like, 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.120 you know, help helped get you to the other side. 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.720 Oh yeah, my management. Now you know what I'm saying, 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.280 shout out to Madden. You know what I'm saying, they 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.200 coached us and really, you know what I'm saying, kept 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.240 our spears high when when shit was you know what 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.240 I'm saying, kind of rocky and shit. So it's not 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.120 too many. Not too many, oh GZ came in and 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:30.440 got it. But the ones who did, you know what 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.280 I'm saying, fell but grateful, you know, because we really 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.680 just we we tapped in and took it the point ourself, 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:37.920 me and my business partner, you know what I'm saying, 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.680 Shout out to James and really figured this shit out. 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.160 And V you know what I'm saying, V was locked 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:43.400 in with us. You know what I'm saying. We were 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.280