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Speaker 1: Today's episode of the Command Center Podcast, we have a

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Speaker 1: free agency preview with tons of fan questions. It's most definitely,

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Speaker 1: most definitely. We say goodbye to John Allen and we

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Captain Bobby Wagner, and then we talk

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Speaker 1: about all the different ways we can improve this team.

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Speaker 1: The draft, free agency, it all starts right now. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with

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Speaker 1: Fred Smoot and Santana Moss and just as a revender.

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Speaker 1: We're presented by Coger Technology, Securre Today Shape Tomorrow, and

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Speaker 1: as always, we just appreciate doing this show for you guys.

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Speaker 1: And Fred, yeah, you have some very interesting news. You've

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Speaker 1: got a couple commander's camps. Yes, you're gonna be hosting, supporting.

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Speaker 2: Hosting at Northwest stadiums fucking kids at the DMV and

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Speaker 2: if you outside of the DMV, feel free to come

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Speaker 2: to the dp out. So you know, the command and

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Speaker 2: coaching has changed. So we add to the coaching by

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Speaker 2: throwing these commander's camps.

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Speaker 3: It should be fun. You should learn it.

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Speaker 1: It's at Northwest State. That's that be really cool.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to run and play on an NFL field,

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Speaker 2: he's your chance right here.

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Speaker 1: This would be pretty awesome. And it's flag football or.

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Speaker 3: It's a true football camp.

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Speaker 2: So we'll go through dreams, we'll do a lot of teaching,

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Speaker 2: and we'll probably had like a little small scrimmage at

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Speaker 2: the end, but nothing, nothing.

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Speaker 1: To make it crazy. That sounds like a ton of fun,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, make sure you sign up. The description for

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Speaker 1: that camp, if you want to learn more about that,

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Speaker 1: will be in the description of this video, so make

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Speaker 1: sure you check that out. And without further ado, free

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Speaker 1: agency is starting. We're recording this on Monday officially, like

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Speaker 1: the deadline starts on Wednesday. But obviously there's a ton

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Speaker 3: You just try every five minutes, something happens, a.

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Speaker 1: Ton of preliminary everything that's happening. So what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do is we're kind of review the information that we

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Speaker 1: have or that's kind of allegedly happening, Like kind of

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Speaker 1: the reports are indicating that we've got them going on,

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Speaker 1: and so we're gonna say, so far, so good, like

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Speaker 1: where do we stand in relationship to the rest of

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Speaker 1: the league, and where we had where we stood last year.

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Speaker 1: So first things first, we released Sean Allen and Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we're really bummed to see John go because again, he's

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Speaker 1: been a big part of this community for a long

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Speaker 1: time and great football player. So obviously that's kind of tough.

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Speaker 1: But I do think releasing him opens up an opportunity

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Speaker 1: and makes that Deebo Samuel the more money. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: reported Deebo Samuel trade a little bit more appetizing. Ye.

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Speaker 1: How do you guys feel about both of those news,

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Speaker 1: because I feel like they're kind of married together in

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Speaker 2: You know, it happens anytime you get a new coaching

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Speaker 2: stay UF, a new front office in here, you're going

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Speaker 3: So I think it was one of those things.

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Speaker 2: And then when you get Newton in here, I think

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Speaker 2: they want to let let Newton develop himself. You outso

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Speaker 2: Steel have pain. So it ain't like you really did room.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. If you could stand and

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Speaker 1: And again, he's you know, he's older, he's a little

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Speaker 1: and we've you know, I played for ten years and

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Speaker 1: guys who are getting paid more than what their play is.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he's a bad play. This means he's

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Speaker 3: I think more than a production.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right, especially coming off the injury. Feels

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Speaker 1: like the right thing. But Tanner, I do think this again,

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Speaker 1: as reported by Adam Scheffner, that this gives that opportunity

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Speaker 1: to bring Deepo in because Debo comes in for seventeen Yeah.

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Speaker 1: John's capit was fifteen and a half. Yeah, or sixteen

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Speaker 3: Half, So your camp never changes.

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Speaker 4: It's just like I just freed up with fifteen sixteen million,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like time well spent.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, you hass off to John now.

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Speaker 4: For what he did here, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: Only two guys, I mean Time Wells, Trent Man.

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Speaker 4: He was interested, you know, he was a guy that

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if Smoop went over there and washed

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Speaker 4: and they were talking about him being a proedend. So

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Speaker 4: I'm good he got a chance to come back here

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Speaker 4: So somebody, whoever, whoever, go out there and pick him up. Man,

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: The thing I also about it is class act by

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Speaker 3: So they was the second choice.

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Speaker 4: I think to speaking on that, it goes to show you, man,

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Speaker 4: the direction we're moving and with this organization, when you

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Speaker 4: We didn't we didn't go out and seek better talent

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Speaker 4: now looking at the things that they've done from day one,

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Speaker 4: have guys on the roster that's that's you know, capable

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a that's the best, that's fantastic take,

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Speaker 1: I do think like Adam Peters, like Freddie mentioned out classic,

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Speaker 3: For you, you.

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Speaker 1: You can't rely on that.

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Speaker 3: I got to move forward.

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Speaker 2: I got to move forward, and that's what this front

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Speaker 1: Trying to go. Yeah, so obviously, again bum John's out

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Speaker 1: the Tennis point and really a great point, a larger

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Speaker 1: new culture. Yeah, new culture, new perspective on how to

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Speaker 2: Well, we have to build a team. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the elephant in the room. We're building a team to

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Speaker 1: So obviously we've talked about the debo trader. I think

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Speaker 1: How he raises the floor of the offense. I think

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Speaker 2: Also with coach Queen saying I want my guys to

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Speaker 2: Like I always tell people, I've been around a lot

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Speaker 3: And one thing that motivates.

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Speaker 4: Also, you got to understand, regardless if it's something that

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Speaker 3: I remember. I remember, people want me to come show here.

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Speaker 3: No bro, I got to prove to these guys out

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Speaker 4: Yeah who I am. So you get a guy that's

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Speaker 4: to scrap everything he did in those other years and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so really really looking forward to him being here.

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Speaker 1: But I think the other thing about this, and we're

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Speaker 1: now we have you know, we had twenty nine free

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Speaker 1: agents to start this processing. So wow, Deebo Samuel is

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Speaker 1: Bates according to reports, is back for a three year extension.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm for given what their impact was on

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Speaker 1: to kind of laying that foundation. I think both of

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Speaker 1: them are, to your point, Fred, like cultural pieces that

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Speaker 1: and that's why he gets a three year deal, someone

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Speaker 1: find cornerstones, people that are cultural, cultural pieces that you

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Speaker 2: Forward, especially guys that ain't going to crash the bank.

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Speaker 2: You know, John Bates is one of them pieces that

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Speaker 2: you don't really see his what he brings the tape

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Speaker 2: in the numbers. But but if I'm a running back,

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Speaker 2: he reflects my numbers. Yeah, yeah, like he reflects everything

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Speaker 2: very important to bring him back. And zach Ertz, my god,

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Speaker 2: you're talking about the rebirth of a career and it

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Speaker 2: just shows you how important a tight end is to

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Speaker 2: a young quarterback. I'm sorry, man, it's it's paramount. Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like, if you didn't bring zach Ertz back,

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Speaker 2: you were gonna have to upgrade that. You will have

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Speaker 2: to bring somebody just as good in. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it was somebody just as good on the free.

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Speaker 1: Agent I was going to ask you, like, is there

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Speaker 1: is there a better pass catching option that does what

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I could say definitively yes, there

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Speaker 3: Say they would say Loveland. A couple of these guys.

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Speaker 1: Loveland's very skilledul I think he's a top twenty pick.

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Speaker 4: Look at it like if it's not broke, Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean. You have a young guy already

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Speaker 4: you know, man, all I got to do is give

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Speaker 4: giving him that one year, you know, gave him a

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Speaker 4: a better pass catcher than than did he win? I

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Speaker 4: think at one point he was what twenty four attempts

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Speaker 4: and he had one drop, you know. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: and then when you talk about John Bates, I just

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Speaker 4: feel like he's you know how they have that saying,

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Speaker 4: you know how you have your meals, especially when you're

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Speaker 4: a caller counter, you know, gonna bring it up for

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Speaker 4: guys who you know me and you me and you

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Speaker 4: got to speak the same language a little bit when

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Speaker 4: we talking micros and all macros and all this stuff.

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Speaker 4: When you're a calorie counter John Bates to meet to

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Speaker 4: our team, it's like those hitting calories like a drink,

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Speaker 4: like you're eating your foods. I got three hundred calories

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Speaker 4: you got a John Bates where you might not see

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's there. He's there, and he's.

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Speaker 4: Very valuable for you because what you need him to do,

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Speaker 4: whether it's going to be blocking or catching. You know,

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Speaker 4: and then boom, you know what I mean, moved a chain.

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Speaker 4: So I love the fact that you were able to

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Speaker 4: have that at home. You didn't have to go out

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Speaker 4: and seek it. You had those both both of those guys.

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Speaker 4: You had the erth who can go out there and

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Speaker 4: show you that he can still be that that that

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Speaker 4: earth he.

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Speaker 3: Was years ago.

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Speaker 4: Now he might not have that pepping this stuff like

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Speaker 4: he was when he when he was younger.

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Speaker 3: But he still has those hands. Can we agree that

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Speaker 3: he had a who you think he had the better year? Him?

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Speaker 3: And Dad's got it because that's who replaced.

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Speaker 1: Him in philyink exactly. But I think I think Cliff

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Speaker 1: really understands how to use that. Yeah he does. And

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Speaker 1: I think, like I was gonna ask you to. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much you watched him, but like he

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Speaker 3: No, I just told you separation.

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Speaker 4: You know, people get People get caught up in how

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Speaker 4: gotta target, you know. And that's what you saw, Merts,

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Speaker 4: every time he got up there, no matter how fast

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Speaker 4: wiggling boom, Yeah, it was separation. He always separated. So

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Speaker 4: that's what I see in him. And you walk, watch

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Speaker 4: him walking around you like something hurting on him. He

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Speaker 4: got that foot, you got that walk, Like, dude, I

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Speaker 4: can played basketball.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I could do with this tail is

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Speaker 2: an old football like listen with Doug Walks in.

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Speaker 4: Football said, yeah, boy dog walking like a quarterback that's

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Speaker 4: stood in that week the Jedi class.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I know you, I know you had had a full career.

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Speaker 2: All right, Lovey, you got the kind of walk to that.

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Speaker 1: I know. I don't love that that's happening for me.

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Speaker 3: You got that peppy, you got that look giddy up

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Speaker 1: Because we're talking about Tedans, I think it's important talking

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Speaker 1: about the other guy that's here, which is Ben Sennate.

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Speaker 1: We got a fan question about it, Yeah from Bradford.

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Speaker 1: Is Ben Sennate more of a replacement for Baits or Earth?

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Speaker 1: And because I played tight end, because I watch him

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Speaker 1: on I'll take the first swing at this right and

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Speaker 1: so for me, he's not really a replacement for either.

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Speaker 1: sounds crazy. So to me, like he's like the classic

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Speaker 1: play in line, but because of his lack of length,

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Speaker 1: like Bates has thirty three in charms, the big guy

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Speaker 1: like his force plate numbers are like ninety seven percentile,

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Speaker 3: He's a whipping is whip.

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Speaker 1: The problem with that is that he doesn't run routes

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Speaker 1: got that kind of old man ymca. Yeah, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: try and beat you with horsepower. Yeah. So when you

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Speaker 1: watch him in Kansas City, Kansas State, like he's he's

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Speaker 1: running verticals breaks and there's the nuance the separation tools,

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Speaker 1: yeah aren't there. So they're just different players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but can you get that?

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Speaker 2: I think he can develop this, especially learning from a

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Speaker 3: Like and he's gonna let him know.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm dipping this shoulder, I'm playing basketball, Like that's

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Speaker 2: what Erch does better than in it tdy end in

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Speaker 3: He will post you up.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that's a great point, Fred, because

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Speaker 1: the zach Ertz. Yes, but it's I think people say, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a oh he's the pass catching tight end. Zach's

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Speaker 1: right now they're not the same. Zach is doing he's

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Speaker 1: like a it's a master class of the stuff Fred

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Speaker 1: just talked about the lean, the bend, the stick, the stems,

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Speaker 4: I think that's the reason why you bring a zach

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Speaker 3: You know, he out physical kids and collage.

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Speaker 4: He went out there and the big bought basically just

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Speaker 4: Now you're in the big man's world where every guy,

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Speaker 4: then that zach Ertz, that's why he's here. So you

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Speaker 4: sit there and you watch him enough, it's gonna come on.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna tackle down.

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Speaker 2: To out of time where athletes start to mimic athlete

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Speaker 3: And you pick up habits from the guys you you

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Speaker 4: So I think, I think when it comes to answering

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Speaker 3: Once he get it when we done with him, what

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Speaker 4: He can be so explosive, we might can use him

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Speaker 1: Think that's the thing is like when you look at

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Speaker 1: won't do it, won't to and so. But the thing is,

437
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,840
Speaker 1: it's like you gotta you gotta you gotta grow, you

438
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,680
Speaker 1: gotta learn, and so, like I think about my rookie

439
00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,639
Speaker 1: year and I couldn't block, you know, Chris Wilson, it

440
00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,400
Speaker 1: was like the third string special teams ed rusher. Yeah,

441
00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. But you learn. You talk to

442
00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,600
Speaker 1: Chris Cool, you talk to Fred, you talk to some

443
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,200
Speaker 1: of the old linemen. Oh, this is my technique, and

444
00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,840
Speaker 1: hopefully you see that level of progression. It's just it's

445
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,960
Speaker 1: it's he's got a little ways to go, I think,

446
00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,800
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to get that across. Like I think

447
00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:42,359
Speaker 1: he can do it.

448
00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,840
Speaker 3: I've ben saying I think he can get there. The

449
00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,080
Speaker 3: question is how fast?

450
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,439
Speaker 2: How fast do you develop and how fast do you

451
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,199
Speaker 2: get to where the game slows down and.

452
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,159
Speaker 4: How fast does it turns on in your head that

453
00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 4: I can't be too far behind these guys.

454
00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,800
Speaker 3: It's about time for me to start taking new y.

455
00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,880
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, you know, because I you know, young

456
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,040
Speaker 4: guys getting here, Some young guys get.

457
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,439
Speaker 3: In here and saying I'm comfortable, be a part of it.

458
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 4: I got I got in front of me, I got

459
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,680
Speaker 4: this other guy in front of him, I got based

460
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,800
Speaker 4: in front of me. I'm comfortable. Or you can say

461
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,359
Speaker 4: I don't like these guys here in front of me.

462
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,400
Speaker 4: They brought me in here for a reason. And now

463
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,879
Speaker 4: what you do is by him up and everybody. He's

464
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,040
Speaker 4: gonna up his his arm level of all play that

465
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,680
Speaker 4: he's gonna up all these guys, because not a whole

466
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 4: room is going to sit up there and say, well, damn,

467
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 4: this young guy behind us, he in my back pocket.

468
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,960
Speaker 2: I got to get in my back pocket. In the

469
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 2: perfect world, at the end of next year, he should

470
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 2: be the store and tight end. He should be the

471
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,879
Speaker 2: staring tight end body end of that should be the

472
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:42,680
Speaker 2: extra piece.

473
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 3: The rest of love the fact that we got all

474
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Speaker 3: three of them.

475
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 4: I love the fact that we got all three of

476
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 4: them because that only makes our room that much stronger.

477
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 1: And so it'll be interesting to see because we're I

478
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 1: think we're all excited about Ben. We want to but

479
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 1: to see his development because again we want to see

480
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 1: the the stuff on the field, the nuance on the field,

481
00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 1: match the athletic upside and they take it old.

482
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 2: Man game out of out of zach ERT's head, put

483
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 2: it in yours like this time. I remember when I

484
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 2: first guy here, they would thirteen Day of Green told me,

485
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 2: he said, I'm fing to take my brain and put

486
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,399
Speaker 2: it in yo you for body, and give you a

487
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: chance to be a legit player in the lead.

488
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 1: I tell you, I tell this story all the time.

489
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: But like one of the things that it's different, Like

490
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 1: college football is one thing, NFL football is something completely different.

491
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 1: You have to be on your technique, you have to

492
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: be on your assignments. Like I remember, this is a

493
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: crazy story. So I was with Chris and he was like, Logan,

494
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 1: why you always laid off the ball? And I was like,

495
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Chris, Like I get off

496
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 1: when the when he says set hut like I'm going,

497
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 1: and he talked, watchs me in the film room right

498
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: down here, the old tight end room and goes play pause,

499
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 1: play pause, play pause, and I'll be damned if I

500
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 1: wasn't a full count behind everybody. And so I was like,

501
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: I was like, how'd you even notice that? Know? What

502
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 1: had said anything to me? And he goes go talk

503
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 1: to Rybach and Will Montgomery, the centers at the time.

504
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 1: So I walked down there and he's like, I'm actually

505
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: snapping it on the s of set.

506
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 3: Yes.

507
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: So like it's said, hut yeah, and he's stapping on

508
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: the SI yeah. And I was that late and it's

509
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: not even a second. It's a tenth of a second,

510
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: hundred of a second.

511
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 4: So you waiting tout yeah and they already moving yeah.

512
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: And so again like that's like, that's the level of

513
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 1: detail this game requires, and so hopefully these guys all

514
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: get there. So in addition to the tight ends that

515
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,479
Speaker 1: we're all really excited about, we got Zane Gonzalez recording

516
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: to reports free signing again. I think I think that's

517
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: going to be one piece of a competition. I think

518
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: that's the best way to do it.

519
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 3: But do you think Cyber get a chance to win

520
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: a job?

521
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. He seems like he's still kind of

522
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: nicked up.

523
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: He might be still nick but I thought his year,

524
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 3: yeah I was.

525
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 1: But I guess that's what I'm saying is like, we're

526
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 1: not talking about Cyber right now. Yeah, of the injury, right.

527
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 2: So I just feel like this competition in the me

528
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 2: I feel like this the md'll be you bring a

529
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: guy back like that, if he's healthy, bring a guy

530
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: back in there, because I think he did.

531
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 4: He meant so much time season and into how we started.

532
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: You know you that Giants, what is it? Sixty seven

533
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: to field won again? That's crazy. But but you know,

534
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: I've I don't think I've ever been on a team

535
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 1: where we've had like a kicker. There's always been another

536
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: guy that comes in to compete, right, Like I'm trying

537
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: to think, have you ever.

538
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: Now when I first got here, we stole Joe Howe,

539
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: when we was just Washington Jet Ski, we stolen.

540
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 3: Everybody from I came over here.

541
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 1: My locker room, like.

542
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 3: The locker room, I didn't play. I'm told, I'm like,

543
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 3: you need sending some of these gents man.

544
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: So we sent them Alec laburn Man and they gave

545
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 2: us Tom Now we had big Grandy Thomas, we had

546
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: Joe how we had Chad Morton, Chad Mordon, j Skians.

547
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 1: So we guess what I'm saying is like Jane's back,

548
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, allegedly back Cyber. You know, like it's it's

549
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: that's a normal NFL. It's not like saying this guy's

550
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: batter good. It's just like that's how you do it. Yeah,

551
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: get kickers, they compete, they do their thing, and probably

552
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: maybe the most exciting potential re signing. Obviously, this doesn't

553
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: become official till Wednesday. Streuss way back on one year

554
00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: deal away.

555
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 4: I know he fresh because he missed the way.

556
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: The question is how long can miss the wade keep hunting? Yeah,

557
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: because I think he still got twy years.

558
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 4: He's thirty, he's thirty four, forty, thirty four, thirteen or

559
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: fourteen to looking.

560
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 2: Up, No, no, no, this is years here with us. Yeah,

561
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: so it's probably the year eleven or twelve?

562
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: Right, what is it?

563
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, eleven or twelve, because I don't think he started

564
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: as a twenty year old.

565
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, that'll be interesting. I would have said thirteen.

566
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: What is what I would have said, I don't know, twelve, twelve.

567
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: But he also, I remember you also missed the year

568
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: because he had he did practice squad or try out

569
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: competition in Chicago and then came here. So maybe it's

570
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: only his eleventh year. But yeah, I think obviously everyone's

571
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: excited about him. You know, Leadership, I think is something

572
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: he brings.

573
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: And that's the way.

574
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: That's kind of funny talking about a punter being a leader,

575
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: but he is.

576
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: No, No, he's a blue guy. He's a guy like

577
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 2: listen to me. His selfishness giving it at number five

578
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: to jayde set the whole year in the right course,

579
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: like doing stuff like that, and the way I watched

580
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: him sit on it sideline and do nothing this year

581
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: was great, not a pro being a You asked me

582
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: to show up, I showed up. My services was not needed,

583
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: but I'm here when you do need it. President mister Waite, Congratulations.

584
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, glad that he's back again. Leadership get

585
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: Zach leadership from Zach, leadership from trust and then I

586
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe the most important leadership element, and this

587
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: one is official. Bobby Wagoner resigns on a one year deal.

588
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 3: We had to do it.

589
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: You can probably gush on this for an hour.

590
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can say had to do it. It was

591
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: the right move. He is the ultimate leader and the

592
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: ultimate chess player. While you out there, the things he

593
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: do checking to defense and see this what the this

594
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: is what the untrained I don't see is how he

595
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 2: battles with these quarterbacks and checking to the and putting

596
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: everybody in the right defense, especially in that way.

597
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: You're a London Fletcher.

598
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 4: You don't know how valuable a guy is until you

599
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 4: actually get the chance to see him on your squad.

600
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 4: And man, Bro, I'm talking about having a quarterback. It's

601
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 4: one thing though, that he's the quarterback of the defense.

602
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 4: I mean, Bro, I watched this guy sit there last

603
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 4: minute and just making checks and putting guys in place, man,

604
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 4: and just used to understand somebody's value, man, And Bobby

605
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 4: showed it from day one. He showed of since he

606
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 4: was over there in Seattle. I remember playing against him

607
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 4: his rookie season and didn't even know he was a rookie.

608
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 3: You know, that's how valuable he was to that team.

609
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 4: And just to see him what years years removed from

610
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 4: those guys and went, I think he had to stint

611
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 4: somewhere else. Yeh la la playing in La back to

612
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: Seattle down here.

613
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 3: Don't like he missed a beat, you know.

614
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: He just he's just one of those players you know

615
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: what you're gonna get, And you can't say that about

616
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: out in that field player.

617
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: And I think I've had a bunch of fans come

618
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: up to me and it's like, oh, like, how's he

619
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: playing And he's not playing like he was when he

620
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: was in Seattle.

621
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 3: I'm not expecting him to and I think.

622
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: That's an unreal estate expectation. But you know what he

623
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: does do a really good job of, is he's his

624
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: leaderships off the chart, his ability to control, Like I

625
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: just remember the BEARSS game where it's like they got

626
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: the empty check on, they shift back to a tight formation,

627
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: he checks it up, it's short. You like his ability

628
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: to communicate to all levels of the defense. You see

629
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: what from a mental standpoint, what the green dot looks like. Yeah,

630
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: and there's a you go to the combine and people

631
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: talk about linebackers and they say, I'm looking for someone

632
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: who can wear that green dot because there's not a

633
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: lot of them. And we've got a guy get that

634
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: done a high level and again tackles well in his asystem.

635
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: So I think again, is he is he the guy

636
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: that he once was? No, but none of us. I

637
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: don't have to say I'm not the guy was five

638
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: years ago.

639
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: But gets what he is. He gonna be there, He

640
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: gonna be there when you need him.

641
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 2: He consisted, he don't miss games, He take care of

642
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: his body and He's one of those leaders to don't

643
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: lead with a lot of discs, but he he's vocal,

644
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: but he does.

645
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: But he does in a way that I think is undervalued.

646
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: What I mean by that, it's like when you're in

647
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: when you're around the team, he's the guy that like

648
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: cuts up with you, like hey, for what's up? Many good?

649
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: Like oh, like, man, your forehead looks crazy whatever, you

650
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, and that that brings people together,

651
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: It brings locker room together in a way that like

652
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: is undervalue.

653
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: They get a study they say freends with each other, yeah,

654
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: or four hundred percent more earnest with each other and

655
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Speaker 2: tied it in each other.

656
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Speaker 3: So oh, let's plus lendy, we should be riddy.

657
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Speaker 1: And just a little fact checking. Uh, this will be

658
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Speaker 1: twelve Trust's twelfth season. You're very close, Freddy. Yeah, all right.

659
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Speaker 1: So those are all the things that have happened so far.

660
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Speaker 1: And again, we're recording this on Monday. Yes, we know

661
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Speaker 1: that agency show comes out on Tuesday, so a lot

662
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Speaker 1: of there's probably a lot more, a lot more information,

663
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Speaker 1: But what we're going to do in the meantime, it's

664
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Speaker 1: kind of do a little bit of a preview of

665
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Speaker 1: free agency with risk it for the biscuit and should

666
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: we resign our free agents. I think that's kind of

667
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Speaker 1: an interesting question.

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Speaker 3: I'll glad to hunt other free agents.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And this is presented by Marsh McLennon agency, your

670
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: partner and risking people's strategies, and so one of the

671
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: things before we get started, I feel like I have

672
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Speaker 1: to say this is you need We're in a really

673
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Speaker 1: interesting situation because we're kind of the commanders. You're kind

674
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Speaker 1: of entering. You are not entering. You're in a playoff window, right.

675
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: You need to get more talented. But in addition to

676
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: get getting more talented, you also need more depth because

677
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Speaker 1: one of the things about the last regime that was here,

678
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of depth on the roster, right,

679
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: so you need to kind of go get really talented

680
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: pieces and then supplementary pieces, and then also supplement with

681
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Speaker 1: the draft. So it's a very challenging.

682
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Speaker 2: What you want to do is raise the floor in

683
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Speaker 2: every room. I ain't worried about the ceiling right now.

684
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: I need to raise the floor in every room.

685
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Speaker 1: And so I think this leads us nicely to our

686
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Speaker 1: first fan question. Michael asks, what's what missing pieces do

687
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Speaker 1: we need in order to turn those post losses into

688
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: dominant wins. Sorry, the quarters right in my face.

689
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: I'm going the guys to smell like bacon. I want

690
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: the guys all over three hundreds. And I'm talking about

691
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: both sides, offense and defensively.

692
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: The trench warfare is what win games.

693
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Speaker 2: If we didn't learn anything in the Super Bowl, we

694
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: learned you can have all the athletes behind the big lines.

695
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: They matter.

696
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: Because we've seen a team Kansas City Justice talented, it's

697
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: Philadelphia until you get into the trenches. Like the trench

698
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: warfare was one in that game. So I'm all about

699
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Speaker 2: the guys that smell like bacon. And when I say

700
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Speaker 2: add to that room, I want to add starters. So

701
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Speaker 2: if that means somebody that started this year has to

702
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Speaker 2: now go down the level, I just raised the floor

703
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Speaker 2: in the room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right.

705
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the same way.

706
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Speaker 4: I feel like you know when you look at great

707
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: teams are hard to come by, and I think where

708
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Speaker 4: the starts at is just up front. If I can

709
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Speaker 4: run the football late in the season or through the

710
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: whole year, I just saved myself.

711
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Speaker 3: I save my quarterback A whole lot of you know.

712
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: Now, because I can always rely on that running back

713
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Speaker 4: to get us out of harm's weight, you know. And

714
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Speaker 4: then I know we have the quarterback who can throw

715
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Speaker 4: to anybody and everybody who can throw you open, you know.

716
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Speaker 3: What I mean.

717
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Speaker 4: So when you have a guy at the ham that

718
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Speaker 4: you know you can trust in, what's the next best thing,

719
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Speaker 4: protect them?

720
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Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. That's why we changed the game.

721
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Speaker 4: We wanted to protect you know, Manny, And then he

722
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Speaker 4: saw Tom say, I want to protect Tom. I want

723
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Speaker 4: to keep these guys up because they make our league better.

724
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Speaker 4: You know, our league is better when all these guys

725
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Speaker 4: are healthy and we playing into the they're playing their

726
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Speaker 4: teams are playing late into the postseason, and we get

727
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Speaker 4: a chance to watch them come playoff time.

728
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Speaker 3: So that's what you want for your young Jedi five.

729
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 4: You want to make sure you're protecting him one by

730
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Speaker 4: you know, pass blocking, and then the other way by

731
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Speaker 4: stuffing that ball and whoever he's going to have in

732
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Speaker 4: that backfield and us being able to get you know,

733
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Speaker 4: move to change that way. And when you go to

734
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Speaker 4: the other side of the ball. What was our problem

735
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 4: stopping the run? You know what I mean, and it

736
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Speaker 4: starts up front. So you know, we have so many

737
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Speaker 4: skill guys. You talked about Bobby, talk about our safeties,

738
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Speaker 4: our corners, all those guys had probably numbers was up

739
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Speaker 4: when it came to tackles.

740
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't want that. But you don't want that.

741
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Speaker 4: You want those guys that a front to be able to,

742
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Speaker 4: you know, be stiff enough that those guys don't have

743
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Speaker 4: to worry about getting into the place. So yeah, I

744
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: just think, man, it's all about those guys up front

745
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: of them.

746
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Speaker 3: You get better there, man, you get better as a whole.

747
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's one thing that's going to be

748
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: tough though. In free agency, it is like, because teams

749
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: understand that the league understands that they don't let a

750
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Speaker 1: lot of talented free agents go. Talented offensive lineman hit

751
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: free agents, But.

752
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Speaker 4: Do you think we need one or two in both

753
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: places and we get that much better?

754
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: So I think that what this is, this is a

755
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: great question. This is like a like the core philosophy

756
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: of building a team. It's like, so I think, for

757
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: this is an example, Ronnie Stanley already signed, but if

758
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: you could have signed Ronnie Stanley, it's a game change

759
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: and you could have bumped Brandon Coleman to wherever you

760
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Speaker 1: phone right guard, right tackle, or guard whatever you needed

761
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, that's the kind of move for talking about.

762
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Speaker 3: That's that floor going up.

763
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Speaker 1: There's no no good like even like Walker little who's

764
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: like the swing he was like he was a right

765
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: tackle in Jacksonville. He resigned Aleric Jackson from LA who

766
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Speaker 1: is going to be a left tackle in the market.

767
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Speaker 1: He resigned. They if the guy's good teams, don't let

768
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Speaker 1: them leave the.

769
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Speaker 3: Little man bringing back a guy like Branda shere.

770
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Speaker 1: That's an interesting one to me too. Again he's so

771
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: this is where I and this is a personal perspective.

772
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Speaker 1: So if if, if you know, if they do re

773
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Speaker 1: sign or they bring in Sheriff, I'd be ecstatic. But

774
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: I want guys with a little bit of youth that

775
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: we can build down. Like we just talked about with Bates,

776
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Speaker 1: he's a little bit younger. He's a cornerstone piece beatist.

777
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Speaker 1: I think is a great example that guys where you

778
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Speaker 1: say they're going to be here for the next two

779
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: or three years.

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Speaker 3: How about we just steal Makay Bickton.

781
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Speaker 1: That's what do you think about the figure like, do

782
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Speaker 1: you like That's one thing about Mikay Beckton which I

783
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: think is really interesting. Is he good outside of Philadelphia

784
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: without that excellent offensive line?

785
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm gonna keep h mc gord.

786
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: I think they found like this like this, this like

787
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: what happens to Kohlers when we lose a step.

788
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: We moved to scaety. It just it happens.

789
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: Moved me a little bit, father back off the ball

790
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: and allowed me to use my mind.

791
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Speaker 3: I believe he found the home at guard because he's

792
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 3: in He ain't in space anymore. He's proved it in

793
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: the league. I don't have the band to play tackle,

794
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: but I don't need that being it going. I need

795
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: to remove, I need to move people.

796
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Speaker 1: Need to be big. It's big.

797
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: It needs me.

798
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think those are some interesting names, but

799
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: again those are interior players. And this is something like

800
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Speaker 1: like larger philosophy of the offensive line. I think is interesting.

801
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: Is I think maybe I'm an outliner. I think it's

802
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: easier to find guards. He's easier to fight guards at centers.

803
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: It is, And so when that tackle becomes available, I'm

804
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: always like, you gotta find a way to grab it.

805
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: I got a conversation with someone this offseason about San

806
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Francisco's offense and why they struggled so badly, and they

807
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: were like, it's because they lost their playmaking left tackle,

808
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, it can have been that significant,

809
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: But when you go watch the film, it makes everybody

810
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: else worse when Trent's not playing. Yes, and so if

811
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: you can find it doesn't need to be Trent Williams.

812
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: But if you could just raise the floor at that position,

813
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: move Coleman wherever he needs to move, it just gets everything.

814
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: It raises the whole. So I just think it's it's

815
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: hard to find. The point is in free agency, that's

816
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: a tough fine. So that becomes a draft thing, which

817
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: could be at twenty nine. But even then, like is

818
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: that best player available?

819
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: Could you trust Adam Peters to find another coal because

820
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 3: talk about that?

821
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a sneaky find.

822
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: What I'm telling you.

823
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: I heard all all scenason on the radios that we

824
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: don't off I thought the Alphas a lot stood up.

825
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: I thought they played Walliam Can we fact?

826
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: But I think that's the thing is like I think

827
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: we all agree that they did it. Those guys, those

828
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: five dudes, Yeah, I love those guys. Yeah, they played

829
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: and even Trent Scott in there Deader put him in

830
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: there too. They played their butts off. They played really well.

831
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: But I want they just I just want to increase

832
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: the town. Like you're saying, what's what you're saying to

833
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: raise the floor. Improved the room, and you improve the room,

834
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: and that's an easy way to do it in the

835
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: same then, So I think that's the way we want

836
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: to look at it. So that's one that I look at.

837
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: I look at like wide receiver, No we obviously Deebo

838
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: Samuel allegedly will be here. I get it to keep saying,

839
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: So you.

840
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: Got three on the roster right now, this Terry McCaffrey

841
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: and this DIBA on Wednesday, So there you go with

842
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: three of them.

843
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: But I do think that like Tanna, I don't know

844
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: how you feel about it, but bringing in a another

845
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: young resigning Diami resigning Noah one of those guys depending

846
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: on the market, I think that's something you look at.

847
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: Corner we talked about. I think I think, yes, safety

848
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: is not about it getting a little bit younger at linebacker,

849
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: having someone kind of in the wings, like in addition

850
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: to mcgeegee.

851
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got Jeorge McGee.

852
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: We've got McGee, and then defensive line, I think is

853
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: another it's just basically every room. But I think that's

854
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: the point. But then, so this is why frade has

855
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: become so important because we had so many free agents.

856
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: We got to resign some of our own guys, and

857
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: then we got to find young talented piece you guys,

858
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: because we don't because there's no jam and David Davis

859
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: coming through the pipeline. There's no film because those guys

860
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: couldn't cut it. Yeah, right, yeah, So we got to

861
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: make good selective decisions here, and I think that's why

862
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: this pher agency period is so incredibly interesting. Right, next

863
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: question thoughts on Jack Sawyer the Edge out of Ohio State.

864
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: We did this. We ranked all of our defensive linemen

865
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: on Take It to the Draft podcast, so make sure

866
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: you check that on other podcasts. But I think this

867
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: question kind of points to a larger issue, which is

868
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: defensive line. This draft is incredibly talented on the defensive line,

869
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: but there are some free agent pieces that again we

870
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: can re sign or we can look at other spots

871
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: to fill. What do you guys thoughts on that.

872
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 3: You could file?

873
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: I say, I'm always if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

874
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: You know, Don't get me wrong, I'm always I'm looking

875
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 4: for us to get better. So if we have a

876
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: guy in the room or in the building already, that's

877
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: not going to cause us a pretty good.

878
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: Penny saw it was the best pass rush on his

879
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: own college team, really was j T.

880
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

881
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom allowed.

882
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 2: I thought hemer four four was the best pass rushing.

883
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: So if I'm looking to add a guy, add him

884
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: in the second round. Yeah, Like, I think that's a

885
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: win win for everybody.

886
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: And it's so funny when people start talking about picks, right,

887
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well you go offensive line too. You

888
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: are in the first round at twenty nine, and then

889
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: in the second round you go defensive line. But we

890
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: all got six.

891
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 5: Picks, so you got you got to maximize how to

892
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 5: maximize those picks, and you got to understand that when

893
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 5: you are picking, because I think I think it's a

894
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 5: big gap in picking, right.

895
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: I think we got like three So I mean, if

896
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, you're picking at the end of the

897
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: first you're picking at the end of the second, you're

898
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: picking at the beginning roughly the beginning of the third.

899
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: Then you don't pick it again like the fifth, sixth round. Uh,

900
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: I think they traded the fifth. There's no fourth round

901
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: pick anymore. Yeah, so it's a there's a little bit

902
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: of space in there and then three agency. You know

903
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: that's I was gonna say, Tanna, this is what I

904
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: was bringing back to is because of that spacing, you're

905
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to get uber talented people. So

906
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: like Tanni's point where it's like Dante Fowler, like if

907
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: the price is right Bach or if there's other people

908
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: out there, there's a bunch of lists of frigens, you

909
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: need to make sure that you supplement in fre agency. Also,

910
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: that's the thing we're saying. It's like a draft, great,

911
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: but now we got to build our team out. I

912
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: heard someone say this the other day. I think it's

913
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: exactly right. You want to make sure you're going into

914
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: the draft not needing the drafty, thank you.

915
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: You want to go best play available, Like, that's what

916
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: good teams do, that's what we watch kidsy seeing it

917
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: due then what Philadelphia've been doing for the last three years,

918
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 2: Who is the best play availage that they.

919
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: Fall I don't care.

920
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: Run the name tag up and get him like this

921
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: what good teams do. They don't go in trying to

922
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: say I need this one player, two players at this

923
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: draft to be a team.

924
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: I'm just going into the best player man years. We

925
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: watched New England Patriots do that. Yeah, they got it.

926
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: They just got to steal it. I mean, like did

927
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 3: they even need him?

928
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 4: But then you find out they just knew that he

929
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: was valuable enough to come in and add to what

930
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: they was doing.

931
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: So that's a great point. And so again that's kind

932
00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: of what we're talking about here. I know we're kind

933
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: of roundabout way, but you need to fill this all out.

934
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: Get so all the things we just talked about, your

935
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: number two receiver depth on the old line, you need

936
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: that needs to happen now. Yeah, and then you put

937
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: the cherry on top with the talented young piece. And

938
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're what we're talking about. Okay,

939
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: So next question is about managing the cap from Sean,

940
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: do you think the depth at each position will take

941
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: a hit if we make big free agent moves?

942
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

943
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean how much money we I hate these types

944
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: of questions because it's like, how much mone are we

945
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: talking about?

946
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: But we're not talking about Josh Hallen's three hundred and thirty.

947
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: So we have we have Jane Davis on it, we.

948
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 3: Have them over there. Oh no, they are ready five

949
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: million under the cap.

950
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: That helps them, That helps them. It's crazy that number.

951
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: You immediately think, oh, man.

952
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Because the cap appreciates each year, and so it's a

953
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: five year deal, right, yeah, so you lock them in it,

954
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: you lock them in for five years. It's the same

955
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: thing that the chief did with Patrick Mahomes. They gave

956
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: him like what is that half a billion hundred yeah,

957
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars or whatever. Half a billion dollars. Right,

958
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh my god, that's gonna kill him. But

959
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: it sets the line you can plan four years outside.

960
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he only make like thirty five million. Yeah, crazy,

961
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. If the Josh Allen did it, I think

962
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: he got too forty two seventy guaranteed.

963
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: He's the second so he's here, it's like twenty something

964
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: two million something right.

965
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: To No, he got two hundred guarantee to twenty five.

966
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: Can you believe he's the second highest paid quarterback. He's

967
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: a second hand behind Dak Prescott.

968
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 3: I forgot I forgot all about making sixty a year.

969
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: Lot of me.

970
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: Yes, So you need to drive a duck. So talking

971
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: about a team that screwed themselves up, you've got the

972
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't know where you want to put Dak.

973
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: He's not with the two guys we just talked about.

974
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: And I'm a Missippi stateable dog. You know how I

975
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: feel about my bull dog. But he ain't no patch

976
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: my home, and he ain't no Josh Like the worst

977
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: thing you could ever do as a gym. I've studied

978
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: it for years. It's overpay guys that are not on

979
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: the level that you pay them. Your team can't bounce

980
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: breach from that. Can think about this.

981
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: I said the.

982
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 2: Cowboys wouldn't succeed because of this. They pay their quarterback

983
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: is he is. He is the best quarterback in the league.

984
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: They hate they had the Lawrence. It's one of the

985
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: highest paid pass rushing. He wasn't even in the top

986
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: ten in his position.

987
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 3: He play.

988
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: Then you pay Diggs it's the best deep in the

989
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: best corner and he ain't a.

990
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: Top five corner.

991
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 4: But to say all that, because we've been here before.

992
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 4: We talked about that with the other guys. If they

993
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: pull if they had a season leading into that payday

994
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: that said that they deserve the payday. They only could

995
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: pay him worth what all the other guys who you're

996
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: talking about is get it. So at the end of

997
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 4: the day, that's where they always find themselves in the situation.

998
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 4: You get a player or two that goes out there

999
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: and have a crazy year like Diggs. Dig had a

1000
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 4: crazy year. They had those picks, but you have to

1001
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 4: look at the underlying thing. And he gave up more

1002
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 4: yarns than any corner.

1003
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: But at least my negotiation, if I'm from office, exactly,

1004
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pay you in the top five. But you

1005
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: would not mean you would not. And that's what Dallas.

1006
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: They just paid the detackle.

1007
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah what the game? One hundred dollarmost eighty seven. So yeah,

1008
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, good player, Yeah, good player. I mean

1009
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: I actually think I don't know.

1010
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 4: Man, it's tough. It's tough being a gym. It's tough

1011
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 4: being a team that has to play play a guy.

1012
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 4: Because if remember for those years when Kirk was getting

1013
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 4: that money for one year and he getting one yet,

1014
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 4: but he's getting that much for that one year because

1015
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 4: that's where the cap, that's what the.

1016
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: Market said they deserved.

1017
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying, Whether you like it or not,

1018
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: he's getting what his market value is.

1019
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that fans don't understandable talk. This

1020
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: is more of a value thing. So like Bill Williams,

1021
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: Evan's like, I'd pay million mill Williams twenty million dollars

1022
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: a year, you know, for the next three years, which

1023
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: would you know, sixty million bucks? Sixty bucks, sixty million.

1024
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: That's fine. But the thing is you don't understand is

1025
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: in this free agency class there are not a lot

1026
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: of good players. Yeah, it's not so he's going to

1027
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: be at a premium, so he's going to get probably

1028
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: closer to twenty five. Yeah, and people like it. That's

1029
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: too much. It's like, well, that's the market.

1030
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: Especially when you compete, because there's.

1031
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: Because there's nobody else. So when you say DIGGI Zo

1032
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: got overpaid, like it feels like a big number, but

1033
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: it's also like that's the market because there's not a

1034
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: lot of good interior pass rushers available in trade.

1035
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: I love what the cowboys are doing.

1036
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying they do it anything you wrong,

1037
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 2: But I'm no bad I'm no bad stuff. When I

1038
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: see then what I'm telling you, And then you got

1039
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: realized that good dig you do with Dad.

1040
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: You still got it.

1041
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: You still got it.

1042
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: Negotiate with with Micah, with Michael posit now you won't

1043
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: talk about.

1044
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: You said, feel like they're gonna screw up. It kind

1045
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: of feels like.

1046
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: They're going to blow it. Do we know they' gonna

1047
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: blow it?

1048
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: Like they going to blow it and he gonna end

1049
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: up taking lists to go somewhere else.

1050
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: So back to Shawn's question, do you think the depth

1051
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: of the positions will take a hit if we make

1052
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: big free agency? I don't know who you're gonna pay

1053
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: in this class, in this agency class, don't There's not

1054
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: like a guy where like, oh we gotta get this guy.

1055
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: Oh we gotta get this guy.

1056
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: It never happens like this, It never really has like

1057
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: a okay draft.

1058
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 3: In an okay free agency, usually.

1059
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: One of them is is out through the roof, like

1060
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: this is an okay draft.

1061
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: I'd say the top's not good, but the middle, the.

1062
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: Middle, it's good good, And it's just an okay free agent.

1063
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: I thought the trade the more better than the free

1064
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: agents that was available.

1065
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, like Sean, if you got somebody you're

1066
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: thinking about, like, I can't think of anybody, Like maybe

1067
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: you're thinking about Khalil Mack from from Yeah, he just

1068
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: resigned and I would have bet he bet my house

1069
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: that he would resign.

1070
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: He was come on leaving right, all right. But you

1071
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: guys got a trade, and I say, I think the trades.

1072
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: I bet it because you got hindrid.

1073
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: So this is the thing i'd say, because that maybe

1074
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: that's what he's talking about, is the trade Hendricks. The

1075
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: same thing is so interesting because I think you could

1076
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: easily afford him, and this is in the window. He's

1077
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: a very productive player. The thing that makes me nervous

1078
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: about him is you're giving up draft capital and.

1079
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: So we're giving up draft capital in the drel.

1080
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: So but I'll say this, we've already given up picks

1081
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: right for other trades we've done, like the debot trade,

1082
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: the Marshall animal trade. I think those are gonna fine trades.

1083
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: You can give away future pigs to. Now you don't

1084
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: have to be So.

1085
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like in it, we just talked

1086
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: about how we need to kind of fill the roster

1087
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: out and get hindred.

1088
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: You don't have to get away that first that first

1089
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: or that second. With some I don't think you have

1090
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: to give away first because.

1091
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: We think so we know the situation. So the word

1092
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: on the street, word on the street as they're asking

1093
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: for our first, and I.

1094
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 3: Would glad to get it up. Do you know how

1095
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: many sexties? Man is?

1096
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: But then you got to pay him and then you say,

1097
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: does that one player raise the floor of the team.

1098
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me a little bit of like

1099
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: the L. A. Rams a couple of years ago when

1100
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: they brought in Jalen Ramsey.

1101
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah Jalen or yeah yeah Ja.

1102
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: So you bring him in and that team was ready.

1103
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: They were one piece away. I'm asking you one piece away.

1104
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: And if Adam does this and he thinks we're one

1105
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: piece away, I totally support Adam. But right now, as

1106
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: of the seven, I'm kind of.

1107
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: Like, well, I can say it is we are in

1108
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: dire need of a A plus paish rush.

1109
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: Everybody is, yes, I mean unless you're Cleveland.

1110
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: So how we acquire him? I don't really care. Yeah,

1111
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: I just want to get a guy that makes the

1112
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: other team say assignment number one, but stop ninety one.

1113
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: So the thing about this with Hendricks is like, yeah,

1114
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: he's he's awesome. I mean when you look at his numbers,

1115
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: like he's the most he's outside of Miles Garrett, he's

1116
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: the most productive pass rusher since they've both come in

1117
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: the league. Like, he's awesome. The problem is like if

1118
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: you said, hey, man, i'll give you a third and

1119
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: I'll pick and I'm giving him an extension. The reason

1120
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: you're trading him is because you won't do it. That

1121
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: seems like good value to me. But if you want

1122
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: to first and a third and I gotta pay the contract.

1123
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: And I say, the leverage is for me now the buyer,

1124
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: because he don't want to be there and you don't

1125
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: want to pay.

1126
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: It, so you're gonna take what I offer. Basically, yes,

1127
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1128
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm not the prisoner here. You are because you're cheap,

1129
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: mister Brown.

1130
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: You are. Don't realize you're still gonna probably lose. I

1131
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: feel it in my bone. They're gonna lose.

1132
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: Jamal Chase.

1133
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 2: No not, I'm telling you because they're playing these Jedi min.

1134
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: They is playing they Joe Burrow retired and cheap.

1135
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: Mister Brown.

1136
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: No, that's why he's being cheap because he understands he

1137
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 4: has to pay that dude, that's for you. That's forty

1138
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 4: million a year coming out as his thing right now, Like.

1139
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: He just said, he went the GM said, I don't

1140
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: want to say it should have been paid. I can't

1141
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: have the highest paid quarterback, highest paid wire, and the

1142
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: highest paid prayers.

1143
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: He said, I can't pay three people at the top.

1144
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 3: That's why you know, Hindricks gonna be gone. Oh h's

1145
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: it go.

1146
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta feeling that they're going to say

1147
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: this Steve Bush to move on is okay?

1148
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: We got to move on from Hendrix. He got his

1149
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: way up paid T Higgins twenty five.

1150
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 2: He signed to trade Jama Chase get two three first round.

1151
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: Let's dude and repeal your team. Not a bad it's

1152
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 4: not a bad idea. But I just don't see them

1153
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 4: doing that to borrow because would freak. You can, bro,

1154
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 4: he gonna lose his top.

1155
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: Me, dude, he's gonna pull. He's gonna pull Carson Palmer. Yeah, cars.

1156
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: He said, get me out of here.

1157
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: And he was like, he retired, you retired and then

1158
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 1: came and then he was like, all right, I'm gonna

1159
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: come back down.

1160
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 3: Why not?

1161
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: That's how bad he was upset, But so My point

1162
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: is back to this original question. Shawn's question is we

1163
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: have enough money, we could do kind of whatever we

1164
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: want to say so, but it just depends on like

1165
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: who you want to give it to you because right now,

1166
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm not like, this is the guy we got to

1167
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: give him money, but.

1168
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: I want to give it to somebody that's proven. Yeah,

1169
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: and Trey Anderson is proven.

1170
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: Obviously, I get a little bit worried about the dollars

1171
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: and cents of it not not paying him, because I

1172
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: think the extension would be totally worth it, especially because

1173
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: he's as a top three pass rusher right now, top

1174
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: four pass rusher. But it's the draft capital in conjunction

1175
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: with the pay that makes me a little bit nervous.

1176
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: But like Fred said, he's a known commodity. He's very good.

1177
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: Just what are they asking for If they're asking for

1178
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: a first and a third, I'm like, bro, I got

1179
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: other stuff. I got to take care of her.

1180
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: But I'll get you a third and the third THIRDXT year.

1181
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: And they'll see what they they'll see if that gets done.

1182
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: All right, So that's kind of what we're talking about.

1183
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: So for me, yeah, you have enough money. Rookie quarterback

1184
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: contract It's just the free agency class is a little

1185
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: bit like lah, like, are you gonna like Milton Williams

1186
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: Josh Sweat? And to me, both those guys feel like

1187
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: guys that Fred talked about earlier where you're going to

1188
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: be paying them more than what their production is going

1189
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: to be. So that's kind of where I'm at.

1190
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: And I asked, you say, if if I want to

1191
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: pay Mealt in his sweat, am I doing it to

1192
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: spite the Eagles?

1193
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 3: I mean and talent?

1194
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? Maybe subtract there and here. Yeah, So that's kind

1195
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: of our thought on that question, Sean. Hopefully that's a

1196
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: good answer. So nice one. Setting expectations from DJ. Do

1197
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 1: you think our offensive playmakers could put up stats similar

1198
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: to what we saw from the playmakers in Detroit?

1199
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: Do the emoji?

1200
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: You don't know how we know. I'm just I'm just

1201
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: keeping a book.

1202
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,959
Speaker 3: So he's saying, can't Arry put up the stairs?

1203
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: That offers what I'm saying.

1204
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 3: So he said, can Terry put up the numbers? Saint

1205
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: Brown put up? Can can we?

1206
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: So basically I read this question like, can we have

1207
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: a number one offense next year?

1208
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1209
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: And can Deebo put up the numbers? Like a Jameson

1210
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: wig like then we said, can we put up those numbers?

1211
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 3: But friend, we can say what the hell we want

1212
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 3: to say that.

1213
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: I think we gotta look at We've gotta pump our

1214
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: brakes on this a little bit because we need to

1215
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: know who's on the team.

1216
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: I try to keep it realistic.

1217
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: We've got three wide receivers.

1218
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 3: I don't know, we don't know who we got. And well,

1219
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: you know what, DJ, yes, we can't.

1220
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, DJ, he gonna talk, he gonna talk of sowing,

1221
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 4: is not DJ, so on don't.

1222
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 2: Believe what he said anything like you because the last

1223
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: time we went the Motowle we beat up mister Ford.

1224
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 3: We went up at it and kicked in the know it.

1225
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 3: The record from Stot listen to all I'm.

1226
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 2: Saying is we got the quarterback, we got the offensive mine.

1227
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: We add playmakers daily.

1228
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, we got a guy that could turn

1229
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: the screen into you know, a sixty yard like. Yes,

1230
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: I feel good. I'm not finna say we're gonna beat

1231
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: Detroit now. Are we're gonna be throwing to the town

1232
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: into the guard. No, we will be as long as

1233
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 2: you got Jed I five, We'll be a good office.

1234
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 4: DJ I think we're gonna be good, but I yeah, just.

1235
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like I don't even know who's

1236
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: the who's the receiver? Like who? Like what are we doing?

1237
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: Like what are we doing right now?

1238
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you how I know you're just told us.

1239
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: In four I will say, you are confident.

1240
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 3: If you don't believe, nobody can believe.

1241
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: So I hope, I hope it all works out. But

1242
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: it's like there's twenty nine new new people gonna be

1243
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: on this team. That show. It's a new team, so

1244
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: like we got to see how it all jels together,

1245
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: it all comes together.

1246
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: That quarterback could be a year old quarterbacks of ball

1247
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: lifts the ball er, Yeah you know Areas the ball

1248
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 2: or Jackson baller.

1249
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: All those things are true. But it's a new group

1250
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: of guys.

1251
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: They had something going on back there with that that

1252
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 4: sonic and all your boy that I ain't seen.

1253
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: I don't think nobody matched that. Well listen, you don't

1254
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 3: you know you don't meet Jamar Gibbs and Giants grocery store.

1255
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Now, getting one of those like.

1256
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: See that's there between an suv and a sports that's

1257
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: now I don't know, if you know, a sports cut

1258
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: low to the ground so you get out of their fans.

1259
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: When I seen Jami Gibbs run, damn, they gave me

1260
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: whip ladder fast.

1261
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: Dude's face, did you ever?

1262
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you guys been a high school

1263
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: game and there's like that one kid who's just don't

1264
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: belong in the second they get into space, it's like,

1265
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: oh God, the worst thing that's ever happened. That's how

1266
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: you felt, was I felt watching him.

1267
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 4: I watched Gibbs get the ball and I was there

1268
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 4: and I told be missed.

1269
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 3: I ain't seen he made six people miss in the.

1270
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 4: Circle and they was just all there he was and

1271
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 4: he would I say, bro, I ain't seen nothing like

1272
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 4: that with.

1273
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: The fastest Jamar Gibb.

1274
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: But Jameis James Jameson, Willis Jameson's different.

1275
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: Because it's because look he's got guys.

1276
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's different because he's running route. So you know,

1277
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 4: the courtback gotta get the balls. Yeah, this guy, you

1278
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 4: just give him the ball.

1279
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the thing. There's a difference between

1280
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: in my experience, like the acceleration and just straight.

1281
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: So you say, in the ten year old days. I

1282
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: think getting forty out one hundred, you said, Williams.

1283
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 4: Wims and whims and just wims and effortlessly got that

1284
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 4: reverse and just was like.

1285
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: And then he gave.

1286
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: I gave you more than three. It comes to the

1287
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 3: t I know he finna go give it a third pup.

1288
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm on an idiot like that.

1289
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 3: I know that ticket. I was crying.

1290
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 4: That's just why you lose games like that, because you

1291
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 4: got to it on your team.

1292
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 3: They're just doing.

1293
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: Look like, I know, you gotta have at least three

1294
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: idiots every time I see I talk to him like that.

1295
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 3: That took that job. I'm going back home, man, facing

1296
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 3: like I'm just tying. Because we know a personally and

1297
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: a good new Christian Newey.

1298
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: William I can see him coming in every day tom

1299
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 2: Foolery with their Tomfoolery.

1300
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's gonna do for this show on Tomllery.

1301
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: And that's what we're obviously really excited for the free agency,

1302
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: for the draft, the team building process. Man, we can't

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Speaker 1: wait to see what Hadden Peters in this app does

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Speaker 1: putting this thing together. So make sure you stay tuned. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Wednesday's Wednesday is a big day. We'll have a reaction

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Speaker 1: to that, probably next week sometime where all the pieces

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Speaker 1: will be in we will talk more about kind of

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Speaker 1: the comprehensive vision for this team. But until next week,

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Speaker 1: that's it. See