1
00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,760
Speaker 1: Hey, yo, welcome back. I go by Big Loan.

2
00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,600
Speaker 2: You know the vibes you are now locked in with

3
00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,400
Speaker 2: the most important show in culture. This is the itinerary

4
00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,080
Speaker 2: with Big Loan. Power will buy us up that podcast.

5
00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,480
Speaker 2: I wanted to start to separate the solo episodes from

6
00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,560
Speaker 2: the episodes that I have with guests, get some brand

7
00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,239
Speaker 2: consistency for all of you to tune in, just so

8
00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,120
Speaker 2: you can understand what you're clicking on and what to respect.

9
00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,680
Speaker 2: To understand that when this kind drops, this is known

10
00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,960
Speaker 2: when he just in this bag, when this kind of

11
00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,240
Speaker 2: episode drops with this thumb nail in this kind of title,

12
00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,440
Speaker 2: this is a guest episode on this up there podcast

13
00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,599
Speaker 2: with someone from the culture that I'm just interested in.

14
00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,760
Speaker 1: I don't have high retention for a lot of content.

15
00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,560
Speaker 2: I'm understanding now again how I explained in the last

16
00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,600
Speaker 2: episode that taste is becoming more important and more at

17
00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,520
Speaker 2: the forefront of conversation because we're now overloaded with too

18
00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,440
Speaker 2: much to choose from. Everyone one is streaming, everyone is pardon,

19
00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,360
Speaker 2: everyone is trying to tap into the fan base, and

20
00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,760
Speaker 2: so from an algorithm standpoint, I can understand how it

21
00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,520
Speaker 2: gets difficult for the algorithm to even realize who would

22
00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,480
Speaker 2: win and well, and so if I'm being completely honest

23
00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,360
Speaker 2: with the casual listener or watcher, for all of the

24
00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,520
Speaker 2: creators that's making a living, let's just say on YouTube,

25
00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,240
Speaker 2: God has blessed us. We make a living off our

26
00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,959
Speaker 2: show from a couple of different avenues, and we want

27
00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,160
Speaker 2: a ten x that going into the next year. But

28
00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,760
Speaker 2: I do understand that for people who just upload on

29
00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,319
Speaker 2: let's just take YouTube and.

30
00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,760
Speaker 1: Use that YouTube.

31
00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,640
Speaker 2: There was a report that just came out, well YouTube

32
00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,280
Speaker 2: in the last in the last year, I believe, and

33
00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,440
Speaker 2: these numbers could be off, but in the last year

34
00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,639
Speaker 2: it was several billion dollars that they.

35
00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,320
Speaker 1: Have distributed to creators.

36
00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,800
Speaker 2: And that's also this high interest from YouTube in which

37
00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,600
Speaker 2: they want to be the number one distributor and hub

38
00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,320
Speaker 2: for music. They came out publicly and let that be known,

39
00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,480
Speaker 2: and so what I expected some aggressive moves in the

40
00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,280
Speaker 2: market to back those statements, because to put that on

41
00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,560
Speaker 2: the record, it's basically to put the town on notice.

42
00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,040
Speaker 2: The big dogs are coming to play in that area.

43
00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,760
Speaker 2: That Apple and Spotify and some of these companies have

44
00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,520
Speaker 2: been dominating for so long, and we see that it's

45
00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,519
Speaker 2: kind of fractured and so I think this is right

46
00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,520
Speaker 2: on time for YouTube to really come in and put

47
00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,880
Speaker 2: their thumb on the scale and see what they can

48
00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,960
Speaker 2: get out of it. I think they'll be productive because

49
00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,960
Speaker 2: the audience is on YouTube. But for a creator that

50
00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,000
Speaker 2: just uploads on YouTube, you typically are fighting for algorithm

51
00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,600
Speaker 2: position because the algorithm showing your content to people has

52
00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,640
Speaker 2: as much to do with how many views it has

53
00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,600
Speaker 2: as the quality of the content. Now, you can rewind

54
00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,760
Speaker 2: that and try to make that make sense, but the

55
00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,200
Speaker 2: quality of the content is one thing. But if the

56
00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,600
Speaker 2: algorithm doesn't respond to it and present send it to

57
00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,560
Speaker 2: the people like, no, you should be watching this. If

58
00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,560
Speaker 2: you pay attention to YouTube, sometimes you'll open the app

59
00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,160
Speaker 2: and you will see a video and maybe you scroll

60
00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,679
Speaker 2: by and you close the app and you get back

61
00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,359
Speaker 2: on the app later on and the video pops up again.

62
00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,400
Speaker 1: That's typically a video either you.

63
00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,680
Speaker 2: Showed interesting prior to meaning your search history represents that

64
00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,160
Speaker 2: this is something that you would watch, or they have

65
00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,880
Speaker 2: now positioned that video in the algorithm because of the

66
00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,680
Speaker 2: click through radars, some kind of indicators that's letting YouTube's

67
00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,119
Speaker 2: algorithm to know put this video in position. The more

68
00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,560
Speaker 2: those you get, the high your grade is the more

69
00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,400
Speaker 2: they're like, there's a whole system going on, and at

70
00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,760
Speaker 2: some point I'm gonna teach that system. It's just not

71
00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,840
Speaker 2: right now. But I want to just put some context

72
00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,360
Speaker 2: setting around it and let you know that typically people

73
00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,720
Speaker 2: are fighting for algorithm spots if they just upload on YouTube,

74
00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:04,200
Speaker 2: and so as the market it's oversaturated, those algorithm spots

75
00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,280
Speaker 2: get took from you depending on how frequent you drop,

76
00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,160
Speaker 2: depending on the interest in the video. That's why it's

77
00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,720
Speaker 2: a competitive market. If we're being honest about content creation,

78
00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,960
Speaker 2: it's a very competitive market. There's a lot happening. Like today,

79
00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna cover the Chauncey Billups stuff, the gambling stuff.

80
00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,279
Speaker 2: The unique thing about us is typically we have some

81
00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,559
Speaker 2: what of a perspective that people appreciate, and of course

82
00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,599
Speaker 2: we do a lot of study and a lot of

83
00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,400
Speaker 2: knowledge to make sure that we maintain some level of

84
00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,200
Speaker 2: some level of comprehension and camaraderie in our statements and

85
00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,560
Speaker 2: what we present to the public. But everyone in this

86
00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,800
Speaker 2: niche that we are in and the content creation side

87
00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,880
Speaker 2: of the business that we're on, most people are gonna

88
00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,719
Speaker 2: talk about this, and so what makes your takes different

89
00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,480
Speaker 2: than the other people takes is always the question. And

90
00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,640
Speaker 2: that's the reason why some things I don't cover because

91
00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,800
Speaker 2: other people cover them such in such detail that you know,

92
00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,560
Speaker 2: there's so much to talk about it, so much going on,

93
00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,119
Speaker 2: but we got a lot to talk about. Of course,

94
00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,600
Speaker 2: I heard academics, I heard what he said. A lot

95
00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,760
Speaker 2: of y'all sent it to me. A lot of y'all

96
00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,560
Speaker 2: tagged me in the community. I see y'all saying that, Yo,

97
00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,120
Speaker 2: why this dude always hating on long? Some of y'all

98
00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,800
Speaker 2: are new, y'all don't know what's going on, and so

99
00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna speak about that. There's a couple

100
00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,760
Speaker 2: of different things I'm gonna talk about for next two times. Man,

101
00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,159
Speaker 2: you know, I gotta I got a great show planning

102
00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,920
Speaker 2: for you guys today and hopefully you enjoy. Let's get

103
00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,080
Speaker 2: to it now before we move on, let me tackle

104
00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,960
Speaker 2: this conversation really quick. I think this is probably the

105
00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,080
Speaker 2: proper time for us to kind of delve into it

106
00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,440
Speaker 2: a little bit. Marshawn kneeling and I only want to

107
00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,200
Speaker 2: have this conversation because as I age, right and I

108
00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,280
Speaker 2: look at my children that's starting to develop in a way.

109
00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,400
Speaker 2: What a residue of things that they've went through at

110
00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,680
Speaker 2: the younger age is now starting to be a parent,

111
00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,360
Speaker 2: and me as a parent looking at what's a parent

112
00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,599
Speaker 2: on my children, it's a flashback for me. I was

113
00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,120
Speaker 2: talking to my son the other day and see, I

114
00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,760
Speaker 2: talked to both of my children on a real level,

115
00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,040
Speaker 2: like they know, I'm talking to him about everything.

116
00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,280
Speaker 1: We ain't even having.

117
00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,680
Speaker 2: No type boundaries, right, whatever it is, we own that,

118
00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,520
Speaker 2: whatever it is, we're approaching that, and I'm giving them game.

119
00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,760
Speaker 2: I like that they asked me questions though. I think

120
00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,240
Speaker 2: that's one of the more favorite parts about being a father,

121
00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,479
Speaker 2: is that they trust me with whatever information I'm giving them.

122
00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,200
Speaker 2: But here's the thing about that, because it gets tricky

123
00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,440
Speaker 2: because when you do have children that do take in

124
00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,280
Speaker 2: consideration the things that you're pouring to him and say

125
00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,840
Speaker 2: to him. Now, it starts to play on your conscious

126
00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,839
Speaker 2: because even if I answer something in the moment, it'll

127
00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,560
Speaker 2: be four or five days later I'm still thinking about,

128
00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,479
Speaker 2: what's that the right thing to tell your son because

129
00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,240
Speaker 2: he gonna live by die by that. Both of my

130
00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,719
Speaker 2: sons have asked me something the other day, right, because

131
00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,479
Speaker 2: they getting in the age, and of course this is

132
00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,600
Speaker 2: t mine, but you understand me. You know how I

133
00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,960
Speaker 2: get down. I fuck with childlife, family. I'm having a

134
00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,520
Speaker 2: big audience, but it is what it is, right, each

135
00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,000
Speaker 2: one teach one. Yeah, as long as we can reach one,

136
00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,320
Speaker 2: you hear me. I'm dealing with my little boys. So I

137
00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,920
Speaker 2: shoot up to the you know, I'm one of the

138
00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,240
Speaker 2: eliest niggas in Nebraska. I shoot up to the waldmart.

139
00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,840
Speaker 2: I go get some rubbers because I'm understanding my children

140
00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,800
Speaker 2: not getting to the age where I was already past

141
00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,720
Speaker 2: go at this point, and I know they gonna watch this,

142
00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,560
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna use colded language, y'all. Pick up when

143
00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm putting down adults, because see they be watching me,

144
00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,640
Speaker 2: laughing at what I'm saying about them and things. So

145
00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,240
Speaker 2: you know I'm gonna try to, Yeah, just pick up

146
00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,040
Speaker 2: when I'm putting down. You know, I'm understanding that they

147
00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,840
Speaker 2: getting to a point now where they getting a little curious.

148
00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,160
Speaker 1: You know, they both got a little girl.

149
00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,800
Speaker 2: Friends and being involved with girls in ways where it's like,

150
00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,080
Speaker 2: you know, I know I'm going this way with it now.

151
00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,920
Speaker 2: You understand me, because you know, as a daddy, we

152
00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,240
Speaker 2: looking for signs. Man, which the way my kids going, Man,

153
00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,680
Speaker 2: it's a trick out here Nowada. Man, with the way

154
00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,360
Speaker 2: my son's going with this here. So I'm watching and

155
00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,800
Speaker 2: I see both of my son's headed you know a

156
00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,360
Speaker 2: certain way. So I'm saying, okay, cool. As they get

157
00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,920
Speaker 2: to this age, I want to prepare them for some

158
00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,000
Speaker 2: of the speed bumps on the road.

159
00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,960
Speaker 1: The richest. See.

160
00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,559
Speaker 2: I speak life to my children, and I ain't never

161
00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,120
Speaker 2: had nobody to do that for me. When I speak

162
00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,240
Speaker 2: to my children, it's always, man, you you gonna be

163
00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,440
Speaker 2: a man. You can't do that. You're finsa be a Meian.

164
00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,880
Speaker 2: Now they be saying, Man, I mean I ain't a

165
00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,640
Speaker 2: tend you understand. I might break them all the way

166
00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,679
Speaker 2: out with that right there. Man, I might push up

167
00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,280
Speaker 2: on my son. They may say, Man, he was in

168
00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,679
Speaker 2: here beating on the table. I might pull it my side. Man,

169
00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,760
Speaker 2: you can't be beating on the table when you're finnah

170
00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,800
Speaker 2: be a messian. Now you think me Naws is beating

171
00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,400
Speaker 2: on the tape. He probably like, Man, I'm thirteen.

172
00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:07,800
Speaker 1: Man.

173
00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,000
Speaker 2: But they gonna remember when they get older. They dude

174
00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,240
Speaker 2: used to always pull into us. They don't understand that's

175
00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:21,000
Speaker 2: pouring into them. Expectations. Hopefully you believe in yourself, cause

176
00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,120
Speaker 2: Daddy believe in you.

177
00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:22,400
Speaker 3: Right.

178
00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,480
Speaker 2: I'm trying to give them that because I understand sometimes

179
00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,319
Speaker 2: that's what gets you over the last hump. A lot

180
00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,760
Speaker 2: of guys quit right before it's done because they don't

181
00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,960
Speaker 2: got their last little push. And sometimes that last little

182
00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,760
Speaker 2: push is your uncle, your daddy, your cousin, and your

183
00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,520
Speaker 2: people in your head saying you one of the eliest

184
00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,760
Speaker 2: niggas in Nebraska.

185
00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:44,760
Speaker 1: Believe you me.

186
00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people out here in this success

187
00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,760
Speaker 2: world that's very successful that ain't nobody ever told them,

188
00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,559
Speaker 2: no one that matters ever told them that they were

189
00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,720
Speaker 2: great at what they do.

190
00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,199
Speaker 1: And so my children.

191
00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,240
Speaker 2: And so as I get them prepared, you know, for

192
00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:09,040
Speaker 2: sexual education with their father. You know, I go to

193
00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,880
Speaker 2: the store and now I get some I don't know

194
00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,720
Speaker 2: if these is c cumbers or whatever they is. I

195
00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:22,920
Speaker 2: get some ccumbers and some rubbers, and I'm having a

196
00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,080
Speaker 2: conversation with my children, and so I bought some regular

197
00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,120
Speaker 2: sized condoms. But for the sake of the experiment, let

198
00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,680
Speaker 2: me go break out the little box. See, they ain't

199
00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,079
Speaker 2: old enough to know about the little box. He daddy

200
00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,320
Speaker 2: got a little box back here. You understand me, Yeah,

201
00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,920
Speaker 2: you understand me. Daddy got a little box back. Yeah,

202
00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I was talking to some

203
00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,959
Speaker 2: people in the community yesterday. They were asking me our loan.

204
00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,000
Speaker 2: You know, he probably kind of negae. He don't like

205
00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,559
Speaker 2: for his girl to use the roles. Man, don't make

206
00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,160
Speaker 2: me break out the championship bil Man, Me and the Roses,

207
00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,400
Speaker 2: the tag team, champions of the world. Man, Man, I

208
00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,920
Speaker 2: put the rolls on them. Man, listen, Man, I take

209
00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:13,200
Speaker 2: my time. You understand me, But you know I break

210
00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,440
Speaker 2: the box out. You understand me. I walk back to

211
00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,600
Speaker 2: the other side of the house.

212
00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:18,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

213
00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,640
Speaker 2: They sitting in there, They already laughing, They already looking

214
00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,600
Speaker 2: at each other like, man, my daddy, our daddy is

215
00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,480
Speaker 2: really fit to show us about a condom. But I

216
00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,840
Speaker 2: know they appreciated this. I'm gonna tell you how in

217
00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,520
Speaker 2: a minute. This is crazy shit. And if you ain't

218
00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,839
Speaker 2: a father, you missing out on these kind of things.

219
00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,960
Speaker 2: And I think you a piece of shit kind of nigga.

220
00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,360
Speaker 2: You understand me, Yeah, you know what I mean. But

221
00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,680
Speaker 2: so I rush back in the other side of the house.

222
00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,360
Speaker 2: I get in there, they sitting down. I break out

223
00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,360
Speaker 2: the two magnum condoms. Yeah, the ones in the Gold

224
00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,040
Speaker 2: Rapper right now. Taking man, these is little rookies. Brother,

225
00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,880
Speaker 2: they don't know nothing about the Gold Rapper. So I

226
00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:02,280
Speaker 2: break out the Gold Rapper. They just looking so boom,

227
00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,840
Speaker 2: I break three of them out. Boom bus this was over.

228
00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,040
Speaker 2: Give him his give him here. They bust him open.

229
00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,280
Speaker 2: I said, now look at it. They grabbing it like man,

230
00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,199
Speaker 2: it's slamming right. So I take him through the entire process.

231
00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,960
Speaker 2: Show him how to I'm gonna get to the point.

232
00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,640
Speaker 2: Show him how to put it, Show him how to

233
00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,080
Speaker 2: put it on the cucumber. Talk to him about sexual education,

234
00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,240
Speaker 2: talk to him about don't even make the mistake right now, bro,

235
00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,959
Speaker 2: don't even break the seal. You understanding me, because if

236
00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,040
Speaker 2: you break the seal, my nigga, man, it gets rough

237
00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,960
Speaker 2: on you. You know what I'm saying. I'm telling you

238
00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,400
Speaker 2: you got a lot of life to live.

239
00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:36,680
Speaker 1: Man.

240
00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,439
Speaker 2: Just hold what you got, you understand, get your hustle together.

241
00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,640
Speaker 2: You got shit to do. That my model for my kids.

242
00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,600
Speaker 2: Boy you got shit to do. Boy, boy, you got

243
00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,920
Speaker 2: shit to do. That's all I'm kicking to him. Boy,

244
00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,040
Speaker 2: you got shit to do. You hear what I'm telling you, boy,

245
00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,880
Speaker 2: you got shit to do. Hey, you hit me. Look

246
00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,240
Speaker 2: at me. He's your daddy talking to you. The nigga

247
00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,280
Speaker 2: that done done shit, you got shit to do. Yeah,

248
00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,720
Speaker 2: that's how I'm coming here in time. And here's where

249
00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,840
Speaker 2: the question come in. And I say this is these

250
00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,840
Speaker 2: are the questions makes you think thrill. Four days later,

251
00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,040
Speaker 2: Damn did I tell him the right thing? And you

252
00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,839
Speaker 2: got to revisit it. So of course I bring out

253
00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,760
Speaker 2: the gold rapper, the fuck with the Q come and

254
00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,600
Speaker 2: letting him know how to put it on, teach him

255
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,719
Speaker 2: about sexual education. But when I go to give them

256
00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,640
Speaker 2: they little rough condoms, I bust out the Trojan john.

257
00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:28,680
Speaker 1: You understand me.

258
00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,520
Speaker 2: So when I hand them the trojan joint, my oldest son,

259
00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,959
Speaker 2: he go over there and washing his hands and shit,

260
00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, cause they thinking the rubbers

261
00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,040
Speaker 2: is sliming. He go over there, washing his hands. He said,

262
00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,000
Speaker 2: hey Dad, him and his little brother they both standing

263
00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,360
Speaker 2: over there. They said hey dadd and they mans your question.

264
00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,360
Speaker 2: I said, anything a in the world, Yeah, nigga, you

265
00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,280
Speaker 2: know you canna ask me. Can't many niggas ask me nothing,

266
00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,320
Speaker 2: but you too. Anything ain't get in the world. Man,

267
00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,440
Speaker 2: I got an answer for you. Get what he ho

268
00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,880
Speaker 2: how you know what size condom you need? I would flyabbergasted.

269
00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:14,439
Speaker 2: I was lawful words. I was like, damn, how do

270
00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,320
Speaker 2: you explain that? And so in the moment, I probably

271
00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,360
Speaker 2: just gave him a little riddle or something, you know,

272
00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,520
Speaker 2: just kicking flavor with my children. But later on in

273
00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,560
Speaker 2: that day I had to revisit that. Go holler, let

274
00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,600
Speaker 2: him because I don't want to send you in there

275
00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,240
Speaker 2: with something too little. He gonna pop sooner he get

276
00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,840
Speaker 2: on location. Yeah, if he real tight, he gonna pop soooning.

277
00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,680
Speaker 2: So I'm sending you in a feeling mission. And it's

278
00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,000
Speaker 2: on your daddy to tell you this, right, So you know,

279
00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,520
Speaker 2: I had to revisit it and let him know. Man,

280
00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,040
Speaker 2: just you gotta try different ones on and you will

281
00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,320
Speaker 2: know at some point. But don't go in with the

282
00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,680
Speaker 2: one too little, because he ain't gonna be worth nothing

283
00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,440
Speaker 2: for under ten seconds. Yeah, one or two little bumping

284
00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,720
Speaker 2: grind that boy busting on you me And now you

285
00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,720
Speaker 2: donet change your life. You done alter your living experience,

286
00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I think you got

287
00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,760
Speaker 2: a lot of life to live and you got shit

288
00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,080
Speaker 2: to do. But that's just the relationship I have with

289
00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,880
Speaker 2: my children. And so it reminds me that, yo, bro,

290
00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,000
Speaker 2: they getting to the age where they really are paying

291
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,120
Speaker 2: attention to you, Like they're going to school and like, yo,

292
00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,720
Speaker 2: I want to be a podcaster, like just to hear

293
00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,040
Speaker 2: them say that, or just to hear a teacher tell

294
00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,840
Speaker 2: me that, or just to hear the counselman or somebody

295
00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,320
Speaker 2: from the school like, yo, we didn't know you did

296
00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,520
Speaker 2: podcast or sone says he wanted to be a podcaster.

297
00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, man, damn, I gotta really put this

298
00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,320
Speaker 2: shit down. Them nigga walking right behind me like it's

299
00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,160
Speaker 2: right here. This is what men don't understand, your children

300
00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,680
Speaker 2: walking right behind you like it's right here, even if

301
00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,880
Speaker 2: you don't think they watch it, especially if you really

302
00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,960
Speaker 2: are productive. And there's no better feeling for me than

303
00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,840
Speaker 2: my children knowing that my daddy wanted to want who

304
00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:58,320
Speaker 2: your dad?

305
00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,640
Speaker 1: Man? My dadd hold on, let me man, don't let

306
00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,400
Speaker 1: me call my card.

307
00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,800
Speaker 2: I know I couldn't really kick that, but it feels

308
00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,040
Speaker 2: good when you know your children can call on you

309
00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,400
Speaker 2: no matter what, and they know that, Yo, I can

310
00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,760
Speaker 2: stand in that paint. I win't ate nothing. Let me

311
00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,160
Speaker 2: call my daddy right quick. How many of us it?

312
00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

313
00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,680
Speaker 2: They be put Yeah, man, it's seventeen us that. Yeah,

314
00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,560
Speaker 2: Daddy gonna make sure we you know what I mean

315
00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,440
Speaker 2: that some shit is outrageous. You got to pull them

316
00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,960
Speaker 2: flag out, man, flag on the play y'all board door

317
00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:34,000
Speaker 2: too much and keep withdrawing. But I love my children, man,

318
00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,200
Speaker 2: and you know, I just wanted to share that with y'all,

319
00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,920
Speaker 2: But I really wanted to talk about Marshaan Kneeling. Marshan

320
00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,840
Speaker 2: Kneeland was twenty four years old. He was a defensive

321
00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,520
Speaker 2: end for the Dallas Cowboys. Just last weekend, he made

322
00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,440
Speaker 2: headlines for the first time in his NFL career. Scored

323
00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,880
Speaker 2: a touchdown off a block punt. The stadium went wild,

324
00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,280
Speaker 2: His teammates swarmed in, and he had a big smile

325
00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:02,360
Speaker 2: on his face. Many people in the stadium said it

326
00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,200
Speaker 2: looked like the beginning of something special. But a few

327
00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,480
Speaker 2: days later, that same young man was gone. Early Thursday morning,

328
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,439
Speaker 2: in Frisco, Texas, police Saint Marshawn led them on a

329
00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,399
Speaker 2: short pursuit after a traffic stop, his car crashed, he

330
00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,840
Speaker 2: ran off on foot. A few month moments later, he

331
00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,240
Speaker 2: turned the gun on himself, report save Texas family goodbye,

332
00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:33,160
Speaker 2: and that he's been struggling mentally quietly. I think that's

333
00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,600
Speaker 2: something poetic when you think about it. It was days

334
00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,320
Speaker 2: after his first touchdown, his dream moment, the young man

335
00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,720
Speaker 2: took his own life. I want to speak about depression

336
00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,679
Speaker 2: today because I was having a conversation with a few people,

337
00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,720
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure people understand that depression does not discriminate.

338
00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,199
Speaker 2: You can be living your dream wearing a jersey you

339
00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,919
Speaker 2: paid for, driving the car you really want it, running

340
00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,840
Speaker 2: a seven figure, eight figure, nine figure, ten figure trillion

341
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,359
Speaker 2: dollar a year business, married the woman you want it,

342
00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,280
Speaker 2: live in the home you want it. Depression does not

343
00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:23,080
Speaker 2: discriminate because while you're living your dream life, you can

344
00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,119
Speaker 2: be silently fighting a ward that no one else can see.

345
00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,680
Speaker 2: And this is the thing about depression and the reason

346
00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,679
Speaker 2: I want to have this conversation, because when I was

347
00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,160
Speaker 2: having it, they were pushing back on me and saying, well,

348
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,160
Speaker 2: man's mothering them.

349
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,720
Speaker 1: Had to know. It had to be some signs.

350
00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,960
Speaker 2: It had to leave some signs when you are someone

351
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,919
Speaker 2: that's in this kind of situation, and it gotta be

352
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,320
Speaker 2: some signs if you depressed it gotta leave some signs. Unfortunately,

353
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,240
Speaker 2: I disagree. I think that depression and people who are

354
00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,760
Speaker 2: depressed are some of the greatest masks wearers. They're probably

355
00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,000
Speaker 2: greater actors than the people that are winning the Academy Award.

356
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,200
Speaker 2: There's people that you work next to that probably work

357
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,359
Speaker 2: for you. There's people that work with you. There's people

358
00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 2: that work against you that are dealing with silent wars.

359
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,200
Speaker 2: This is all inclusive standard, I think in our culture,

360
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 2: and particularly for the people that have garnered some sort

361
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 2: of success. I was reading something about Durant that's made

362
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 2: more money than Lebron Like I think they got him

363
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 2: up to six hundred million just with his NBA contracts

364
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 2: allude to Durant. We want to talk about how we

365
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 2: understand that success does not shield you from depression. Success

366
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 2: does not protect you from depression. What will happen is

367
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 2: you'll deal with people in your family because you done

368
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 2: made a certain amount of money or you've worked hard.

369
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 2: God is, you're in a position to be financially stable,

370
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 2: and you will have people in your life that will

371
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 2: consider you okay because you got money. We know the

372
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 2: people who don't call and ask how are you? They

373
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,479
Speaker 2: call and ask for us something we've all dealt with

374
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 2: it before. But in our culture it's almost like that

375
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 2: people in your family, little people you deal with women.

376
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 1: A lot of us.

377
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 2: We tend to think success protects you and because you

378
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 2: got money, maybe you can take a little bit more

379
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 2: than we can. There's no way you could be depressed.

380
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 2: You play for the league. This was some of the conversation. Man,

381
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 2: you in the league, man, and folks can't be depressed. Man, Man,

382
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 2: something doesn't happen man if folk cannot be depressed. And

383
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 2: so I want to take the conversation off this young

384
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 2: man because the time is too sensitive, right and I

385
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 2: also understand that this is a very sensitive conversation surrounding intentions,

386
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 2: and so we want to definitely say all right, we

387
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 2: want to say rest in peace, Marshan Kneeling.

388
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 1: You left us too soon.

389
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: Your story definitely reminds us to check on our strong friends,

390
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 2: the ones that are smiling and the ones that we

391
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: think are good. So RP to him. I want to

392
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: really have a conversation. I want to zoom out a

393
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 2: little bit of have a conversation that I've been thinking about,

394
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 2: and I wonder do you guys share the same opinion.

395
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm not the one that a rushing call things to

396
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: the carpet, in particular when it's dealing with a sensitive

397
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: subject like self transitioning, and I try to have some

398
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 2: sort of measured empathy dealing with people who may have

399
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: dealt with this. But that's been an uptick, and I

400
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 2: want to sincerely have this conversation and hopefully we're not

401
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: causing anyone in pain, so we vibrate high, so hopefully

402
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: we're not dragging anybody's vibration low. But I think we're

403
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: not going to be able to understand what's going on

404
00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,239
Speaker 2: without examining it. But if you're asking me, there's been

405
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: a noticeable uptick in some of the younger generation self transitioning,

406
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 2: particularly when there's some sort of police involvement. Now there's

407
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 2: a lot of conversation to have surrounding that. I think

408
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: this is what the second third football player that we've

409
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: seen get in a scenario where then quote unquote trouble

410
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: and then there's a self transition. When you deal with

411
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: me and what I've witnessed around the country, going to

412
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: different cities and states and speaking to the people. Because

413
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: I'm a man of the people, I deal directly with

414
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 2: the people. I've been hearing the people speak about a

415
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: young boy self transition when the police got involved. Is

416
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 2: this foul play on the part of the police. Are

417
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: they doing something and then blaming it on these dudes,

418
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 2: meaning are they underlive in these gentlemen and then framing

419
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: the scene to make it look like they're self transition.

420
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: I guess you can have that conversation go down the

421
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: rabbit hole. There's also another rabbit hole to go down

422
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: about are these degeneration of people who are due to

423
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: crime and just won't do the time no matter what.

424
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: And that's a rough conversation to have because people have

425
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: loved ones. Right now, when we zoom back in and

426
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: deal with the Marshawn Kney gentlemen, I'm not sure, but

427
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 2: I do want to say, just for the sake of conversation,

428
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: for the people to understand that the people who are

429
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 2: depressed in your life, the people you know that may

430
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: be depressed, they are. There's some indicators I don't disagree

431
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 2: with that. I'm saying they may not be outward indicators.

432
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: I've been around women who have been depressed and they

433
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: go outside and they look amazing, like.

434
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: They get they they'll.

435
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 2: Do to make up in their hair, But if you

436
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 2: just open the door to their home, you'll understand that

437
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: this lady is.

438
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: Either nasty or depressed.

439
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: And sometimes when you know the girl, you know she's

440
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: going through depression right now because she's not a nasty girl.

441
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: But other times you're dealing with a filthy animal.

442
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: Right.

443
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: I think it's interesting we can understand, like you can

444
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: break your thumb, you can break your leg, you can

445
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: break your arm, you know your ribs. People don't believe

446
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: in your brain being able to be broken, and I

447
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: think sometimes people see it as weakness, so they don't

448
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: want to admit it, or we don't want to just

449
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: have a conversation. I send my prayers to Marshawn Needley

450
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 2: and his family, salute to them, and my prayers is

451
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: with you. Let's talk about Javonte Davis and his fight

452
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 2: being counseled. Let's look and see if we got any

453
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: press out on that. Javonte Davis versus Jake Paul was

454
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: supposed to go down November fourteenth in Miami, Florida. That

455
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: fight has now been canceled. We're gonna get into some

456
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: of the things surrounding that Javonte Davis is in an

457
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: interesting spot in his career, and we're gonna have a

458
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: conversation surrounding that here today. The first thing on the

459
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: docket for us to take a look at is what

460
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 2: there was a press release by Jake Paul announcing the

461
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: cancelation of the Javonte Davis fight presented by Netflix with

462
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: him versus Javonte Davis. Pay attention, people who are listening.

463
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: What we're looking at is Jake Paul with a message

464
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: he basically shaves Javonte Davis. He just calling him a

465
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: walking human piece of garbage, working with him as an

466
00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: absolute nightmare of unprofessionalism, about our request to showing up

467
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: hours late, to shoots, to the numerous arrests and related

468
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: accusations and lawsuits. If you support this man, you support

469
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 2: the most vile seeing a man can commit. I don't

470
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 2: want to get this woman abuse of a platform to

471
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: growers fans and to growas bank account. My company champions women.

472
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that everyone involve, mostly to the undercar

473
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: fighters and to my team who works so hard in

474
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: prepping for his fight, sacrificing time and loved ones and kids,

475
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: just for this food to lose his unintelligent mind. Again,

476
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: it's scary that devilish men like this can rise to

477
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: the top of coaching sports, including positions of power. So

478
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: there's been accusations flying in the industry for like the

479
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: last week ten days, in which they've been reporting to

480
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: all of us, even me. I've received information about it.

481
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's true or false. I didn't

482
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: reach to Javonte and anyone on his team to clarify,

483
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 2: but they have been speaking about I guess there's a

484
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: video of Ja Davis going to Tutsi's. They're saying that

485
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: I guess he drove thirty minutes, went in there and

486
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: grabbed a girl and got into it with a female

487
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: at Tutsy's, and which violence took place. I'm not sure

488
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 2: the validity of it, but I do understand that the

489
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: industry had that narrative going on for again about the

490
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: last ten days, and then they were saying that Jake

491
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: Paul was going to pull the fight.

492
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: Now the fight has been pulled.

493
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot to discuss with this, But

494
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: before I unpacked some of what I believe to be

495
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: the case, I want you to listen to the legend

496
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: Royd Jones and what he thinks. I have not seen

497
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: this video, so I don't even know what his approach

498
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: to it is. We may agree, we may disagree, but

499
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: let's listen to what Roy Jones Junior believes about the

500
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: Javonte Davis versus Jake Paul fight being canceled.

501
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: Pay attention.

502
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: You're prought up influencers.

503
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 5: I have to ask you know, Javonte was supposed to

504
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 5: face Jake Paul didn't work out, just the on that

505
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 5: whole thing.

506
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: Man, I really, I really don't.

507
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: Want to, you know, have much to say about that

508
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: because they're about to take it the bad way. But

509
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: all I'm gonna say is this shake Paul knew what

510
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: he was before he when he first signed a fighter.

511
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: This had the first time he had better.

512
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 3: Against a woman. You knew what it was when you

513
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: first had a fighter. So don't get mad and customer

514
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: out and talk bad about him. Now you knew what

515
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: it was you signed up for it. Come on, broke,

516
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: don't say just not do that. Nobody talking. I don't

517
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: talk bad about him either, but don't do this dude

518
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: like that. No, you do having a hard time in

519
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: his life right now, don't just do him like that.

520
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because you knew exactly what

521
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 3: he was when you signed.

522
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: Him to fight the first time. All I gotta see

523
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: the Safe.

524
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: Team has kind of been bringing that, like talking about

525
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 5: just some of Jake's passing more kind of.

526
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: Said that Jake saidies, he's actually afraid to fight.

527
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 5: Take I mean, do you think it leaned a little

528
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 5: more on that side or and they're just selling it

529
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 5: the other way.

530
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: I already know what it is, like I said, I

531
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: already know. I'll get into it, but no, we all

532
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: know when young guys go through his shoes, that's just life.

533
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: I thing this great point you heard Theligen Roy Jones Junior.

534
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: For people who did not see that, basically what he

535
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: said was you knew he had these allegations when you

536
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: went into business with him, So to use it kind

537
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: of as a scapegoat now seems a bit unbecoming of

538
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: a business person. And so again I do recognize that

539
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: this isn't the first allegation that Javonte has had, and

540
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure Jake, Paul them knew that as well. That

541
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: is a great point. I want to more so focus

542
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: on Javonte Davis because I do want to send warrior energy,

543
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: warrior spirit.

544
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: To Javonte Davis.

545
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: I think he's going through what I call a catastrophic

546
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: career collapse right now. Not that his career is over,

547
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: but that's been a catastrophic event that has tooking place

548
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: in his career. And sometimes these things happen. If you

549
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: look around in the field, there's a lot of people

550
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: going through this right now. It's kind of their first

551
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: time being on the other side of the a ball

552
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: what things don't look as promising as maybe it has

553
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: in the past years. I believe Javonte Hard isn't in

554
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: it anymore. I think he's fighting out an anger. I

555
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: thought that Jake Paul would was like a refresher kind

556
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: of reset the palette. Something he can go and do

557
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: or have a little fun, get a big payday, kind

558
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: of rents him from some of that negative energy that

559
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: I believe to be on him from that last Lamont

560
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: Roach fight. The reason I think that the negative energy

561
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: was on him and it shout out to Lamont Roach,

562
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: But I don't believe Lamont Roach just handed an ass

563
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: whooping out like people are trying to say. I do

564
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: believe it was a close fight, but when I look

565
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: at that fight back. I think Javonte fought a better

566
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: fight than people are actually leading on. I understand how

567
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: that kneeling and need things should have been incorporated in

568
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: that fight, But I also want to say, when you

569
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: deal with a boxer like a Javonte Davis, who if

570
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: you're asking me, and I have no personal information, but

571
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: if you're asking me, he was chasing that mayweatherlight career

572
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: and while he stills had as the world that his

573
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: finger attempts, I believe him to understand that that opportunity

574
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: has now been taken off the table, and I think

575
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: that hurts more than anything that you can ever understand.

576
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: I think since he was a young man and he

577
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: knew Mayweather was and worked around him, I think he

578
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: shaped his understanding of the business of what he wanted

579
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: to be around Mayweather and what was that That was

580
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: the goose egg in the other side, that was the

581
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: twenty and oh to thirty and oh, the fort and oh,

582
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: ultimately the fifteen oh. And So when he loses that

583
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: zero to Lamont Roach not a loss but a draw,

584
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: it still don't hit the same as a zero over there.

585
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: It still doesn't give you that floored Mayweather effect, and

586
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: I'm almost certain that's what he was chasing. And I

587
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: think that he's been let down to a point where

588
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: it scrambled his hard well. And so now I think

589
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: his mindset has him in his feelings. And if you're

590
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: asking me, that's why he wouldn't take the fight with

591
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: of My Roach, because it would have been out of anger.

592
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been with a free spirit. It would

593
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: have been with a negative spirit. I don't want to

594
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: fight one of you niggas with a negative spirit. That's

595
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: how you trick me emotionally to move. I lose fucking

596
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: WHI with my emotions. And I'm knowing Javonte as much

597
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: as y'all say he running in having these issues, I'm

598
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: knowing he learning from I'm fucking up when I give

599
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: into my emotions. So if I give in to my

600
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: emotions and present Lamart Roach with this fight and put

601
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: everything on the line and make a mistake, then what

602
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: Now You're gonna have to fight him, But you're gonna

603
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: have to get your head back in the game first.

604
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: It's more easier said than done, especially when you already

605
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: got the money, especially when you can legitimately right now

606
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: and say, man, I already got the money, man, They

607
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: then not I already fucked my career up. As far

608
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: as what I was looking to do, I know I'll

609
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: go out as being one of the greatest of this generation.

610
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: But what I was looking to do is the top

611
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: their dude floor, because in my heart, I think I'm

612
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: better than Floyd, and I think that's part of what

613
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: him and Floyd. What this shoe was is that Javonte

614
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: in his hard see you can feel it with a

615
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: nigga around you, and he really thinks he is shit,

616
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: Like I really believe in me. These niggas just puppies.

617
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: They playing like I'm really standing on that. I'm really

618
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: your executive branch. That's why I don't like that the

619
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: boxing business has turned into that, is that if you

620
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: got that zero, man, that shit's so valuable. I watched

621
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: Deontay Wilder, someone I respect and want to have a

622
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: conversation with at some point, But I watched Deontay Wilder

623
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: crumble in the face of losing his zero I watched

624
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: Deontay Wilder crumble in the face of losing his undefeated record.

625
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: I can only imagine I was telling one of the homeboys,

626
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: it's like I couldn't imagine going to do a high

627
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: priority interview or maybe a week of footage with high

628
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: priority guests get to the house and it ain't on

629
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: the memory cards, because what then happens is whoever's in

630
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: that house most likely is my old lady. She has

631
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: to take the brunt of that attitude and that disappointment.

632
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: And so sometimes you will see these fighting niggas that

633
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: they'll run into the house like they'll go to that

634
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: press conference bust it up. Yeah, Na, he fought a

635
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 2: good fight. You know he's a champion. He's a true champion.

636
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: That left man, that left was coming straight down the middle.

637
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: I give it up to his team and his trained

638
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 2: I want to thank everybody for coming. Like they'll go

639
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: do their whole speech, then go in the house and

640
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: cause have it. Because that depression coming out and lost

641
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: my zero man, my career will never be the same.

642
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: Look how far Deontay Wilder feel down. He gotta now

643
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: build itself back up. Do I believe he can do it?

644
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

645
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: If he works on his game. He has to work

646
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: on his boxing. We know you strong, we know you

647
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: gotta one hit to quit her. You have to work

648
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 2: on your skill set and not just when you shadow boxing.

649
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: You gotta put somebody in front of.

650
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: You and deal with them hitting you when you win

651
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 2: the wrong But I do think some of these events

652
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: all to the way people see the life they're worth.

653
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: Even That's what's interesting. A lot of athletes that worth

654
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: is tied to the outcome of these games, to that record,

655
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: and it's because their entire life has been intertwined with

656
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 2: this sport, and particularly if they went pro. You're dealing

657
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: with people who, at the age of twelve thirteen, this

658
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 2: is literally all they know. When it's time to hang

659
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: them boots up?

660
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: Whoe am I? What do I do?

661
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: Javontae Davis now is an individual who is in the

662
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: middle of a tornado, and the emotional reaction is not

663
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: the right reactions. I was telling one of the homeboys

664
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: called me from the Fizz today. He was like, loing,

665
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: what you got going. I'm saying, man, I'm studying his

666
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: tax code, right, they say, I'm up the way I

667
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: can get a five million dollar I gotta I can

668
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 2: get a five million dollar line based on the business

669
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: and how the business is doing X, Y and Z,

670
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: and so I'm trying to understand the language and things

671
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: surrounding the financial district of America. So I'm not out

672
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: of the loop when people are running certain games on me.

673
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: And I was telling them, man, I was saying, Yo,

674
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 2: there's a lot when you got a lot of money,

675
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: like niggas they got three or four hundred million. I

676
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: remember I be around some of those gentlemen. I ask

677
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: them about taxes and different things, and sometimes they don't

678
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: have the information. I was telling one of the homeboys,

679
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not sure I'm prepared to have a

680
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: hundred million right now. I forgot what podcast was having

681
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: in conversation, but it's like having a hundred million dollars

682
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: come with a level of responsibility and intellect. You must have, boy,

683
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars, you a target. Boy with that

684
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: hundred million and don't know nothing, you're a real target.

685
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: And not necessarily that you don't know nothing, but you

686
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: don't know the things you need to know. You don't

687
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: have the intaeil on one hundred million dollars. I was

688
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: telling someone there's a high percentage if you look at

689
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: the statistics, there's a high percentage of people that unfortunately

690
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: meet their demise on the day that they get their

691
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: driver's license because they think that license indicates experience. And

692
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 2: there's something about experience that gives you a license that

693
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: the DMV can't give you. There's something about experience that

694
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 2: gives you a texture that you can't get from nowhere else.

695
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: And so I have a certain experience and a certain

696
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: set of skills that allow me to survive.

697
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: In the wilderness.

698
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: Nigga yo, Trump can shut it down, Obama can open

699
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: it up. Nigga mon, Donnie can shut it down. Whoever

700
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: can open it up. I'm gonna figure a way to

701
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: eat off the lane, because that's just how I come up.

702
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: God has blessed me with an intuition in that way,

703
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: and I track financial stability. Yes, yes, so imagine like you,

704
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: Javonte Davis, you gotta go home.

705
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: They blame me it on the lawsuit. Let's just say

706
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: that's the case, right.

707
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: The lawsuit has cost me some money, so my action's

708
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: done cost me reportedly forty million dollars. I was hearing

709
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: the tickets wasn't moving that well, but this fight was

710
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: already in the can. If you're asking me, see this

711
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to get you to understand. Some

712
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: of these business models have to be tweaked, and some

713
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: of the people that's in these offices they don't know

714
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: how to tweak them. For instance, the Jake Paul Javonte Davis,

715
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: I was hearing that the tickets wasn't moving. Now you

716
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: combine that with what and makes this a disaster waiting

717
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: to happen unless you just got money sitting around. This

718
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 2: is what makes it hard for us other media companies

719
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: that does not have the unlimited budget to compete. Why

720
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: because Netflix are going through a Javonte Davis and Jake

721
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: Paul and it not be on their top priority to

722
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: recoup any revenue that is so baked in and so

723
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: built in that there's different ways were gonna make the money.

724
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: Don't even worry about the money. Some of the smaller

725
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: media companies like us, if we want to compete with

726
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 2: those things, we have to see money that night from

727
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: ticket sales, from pay per views, from different things. What

728
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: you're dealing with is Netflix interrupting the business model. And

729
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm all for interruption. I'm all for disruption as it

730
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: pertains to business right, So I applaud it, but I'm

731
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: examining it. When I look at it and drill it down.

732
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: I say, oh, they're dealing with a problem. They gon

733
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: have to tweak that business model because what they're doing

734
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: is they're taking these sports from these pay.

735
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: Per view models.

736
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: This is a revenue stream, and you're taking them over

737
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: the Netflix that has this built in subscription model. You're

738
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: making money from your subscription model, but you're also relinquishing

739
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: funds to acquire this new talent and it's new boxing shit,

740
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: and you don't even have a built in pay per

741
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: view or a different experience for someone who wants to

742
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: do that. That's what they need to do. Up the experience.

743
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: Always tell y'all, let this up that podcast. What's the

744
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: model you serve everybody. You find your viewers out of

745
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: your viewers, you find your supporters out of your supporters,

746
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: you find your customers, and you serve them at a

747
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: high level. I'm giving the game they need to be given.

748
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: If you combine the fact that Jake poul and Javonte

749
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: Davis quote unquote wasn't selling good as far as ticket prices,

750
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: and then you if you take that information and you

751
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 2: combine that with it's going to Netflix. That's not free,

752
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: but it's not generating any new income. Night of the event.

753
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 2: I think this is a disaster. I also believe that

754
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: it being on Netflix affixed the ticket prices because everybody

755
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: got Netflix, They're gonna have to find a different way

756
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: to do this. I'm telling you, mark my words. Everybody

757
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: got Netflix. So a lot of people are saying, Yo,

758
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: if I ain't in Miami, I ain't gonna try to

759
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: break my neck to get down there. It's November, nigga,

760
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: ain't no benefits coming out. People ain't got no money.

761
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 2: Shit when and it's free. We already got Netflix. Shit,

762
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: we just gonna watch it from the house, y'all. I

763
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 2: truly believe the fact that a fight is on Netflix

764
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: has a negative effect on the gate sales. That's my opinion.

765
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: It's too accessible. Let's not even go download it on

766
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: the fire stick. You gotta put this cold in then

767
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: you go over here. It ain't even none of that.

768
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: Go to this website. You gotta have a computer. Do

769
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: you got a VPN? It's none of that. It's like, Yo,

770
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: the same Netflix you watch all the comedy in your

771
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 2: different shows on, It'll be right there. I truly believe

772
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: that has a negative effect on ticket sales and get

773
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: in the gate. That's me if you're asking me, but Jafonte,

774
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: you have some tough decisions to make. I'm hoping you all.

775
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: I hope you be all right out there. You know,

776
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: you got a lot of life to live. There's a

777
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: lot more ahead of you, a lot more fights to

778
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: go get, a lot more money to go get. It's

779
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: hard to get out your feelings when you have one

780
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: of those catastrophic career situations.

781
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: Happen like that.

782
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: For people who haven't worked out their life towards something.

783
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: You don't even understand it. You can't even feel it.

784
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: You can't get it. You don't know what it's like

785
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: to get up every day and chase something and accomplish

786
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: it and have it in your hand. We just as me,

787
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: and we gotta have emotional intelligence because we gonna lose

788
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: everything if we buy down to our emotions. Telling my

789
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: little boy that the other day, you gotta calm down

790
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: your emotions. You gotta calm down. I tell myself that boy,

791
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: you gotta relax. Let your emotions take you left right

792
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: up down. Nigga, You ain't even now pay attention to

793
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: what's around you. The first thing we want to talk

794
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: about today is the federal government made a couple of

795
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 2: arrest a legend some gambling heighthst current players and retired

796
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: players and coaches involved in some illegal gambling that could

797
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: affect player props bets. Now, what's important you understand that

798
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: because we're going to have a conversation surrounding that in

799
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: just a second. One of those people being Chauncey Billups,

800
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: was the name that stood out to me. Chauncey Billups,

801
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: along with Terry Roseer were among the people that were

802
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: arrested for this gambling ring. There are so many layers

803
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: to this conversation that we have to speak about. Man,

804
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: I think we got so much to dive into. But

805
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: first I want to listen to the District Attorney and

806
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: Attorney General as well as Cash Ptail, the head of

807
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: the FBI, speak about this arrest for Chauncey Billups, Terry

808
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: Roseer and a number of different people that is implicate

809
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: cass on the NBA as well as prop bids in

810
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: gambling in sports.

811
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 6: Pay attention to this to FBI Director Cash Betel, thank you,

812
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 6: good morning today.

813
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 7: We are here in New York to announce a historic

814
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 7: arrests across a wide, sweeping criminal enterprise that envelops both

815
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 7: the NBA and Lacasa Nostra. The men and women up

816
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 7: here standing with me represent a small portion of the

817
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 7: leadership team that brought profound justice in an era that

818
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 7: needed it more than any I'll just highlight some of

819
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 7: the some of the details in the case and the

820
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 7: FBI work, and then you'll hear from the others. But

821
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 7: as you now know, individuals such as Chauncey Phillips, Damon Jones,

822
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 7: and Terry Rozier were taking into custody today former current

823
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 7: NBA players and coaches. What you don't know is that

824
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 7: this is an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation

825
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 7: that span the course of years. The FBI led a

826
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 7: coordinative takedown across eleven states to arrest over thirty individuals

827
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 7: today responsible for this case, which is very much ongoing.

828
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 7: Not only did we crack into the fraud that these

829
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 7: perpetrators committed on the grand stage of the NBA, but

830
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 7: we also entered and executed a system of justice against

831
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 7: lak Hasanoshra to include the Bonano, Gambino, Genevesi and Luchase

832
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 7: crime families. And you'll hear more about those details today.

833
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 7: The chargers and The arrest that were taken down across

834
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 7: this country range from wire fraud, money laundering, extortion, robbery,

835
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 7: illegal gambling. This FBI will leave no room for any

836
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 7: perpetrator of crime country. You hear a lot about our

837
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 7: work of defending the homeland and crushing violent crime. Well,

838
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 7: this work is also representative of a colossal portion of

839
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 7: the FBI's mandate to keep America safe and to keep

840
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 7: our entertainment industry fair and secure. The men and women

841
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 7: that are standing up here today worked hireless hours, days, months,

842
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 7: and years, and the fraud is mind boggling. It's not

843
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 7: hundreds of dollars, it's not thousands of dollars. It's not

844
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 7: tens of thousands of dollars. It's not even millions of dollars.

845
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 7: We're talking about tens of millions of dollars in fraud

846
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 7: and theft and robbery across a multi year investigation. And

847
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 7: we could not have done it without our interagency partners

848
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 7: that are before us today. The NYPD, HSI and teams

849
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 7: of law enforcement officials from around the country made this

850
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 7: day possible. It takes a team to bring this kind

851
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 7: of justice, sweeping justice into the halls of the United

852
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 7: States courtrooms where our brave United States attorney has led

853
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 7: this prosecution. It takes courageous prosecutors to stand before you

854
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 7: and say we will not allow this kind of illicit

855
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 7: activity to happen, not only at the national sporting level,

856
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 7: but also where it hides in La Casinostra.

857
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 4: He's two collide it together. They perpetrated your fraud.

858
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 7: That is historic in terms of not just money, but

859
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 7: the scheme and the deceit that they utilize.

860
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: And so I keep my journalistic integrity. I want to

861
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: be clear, right, Chauncey Billups at this moment is not

862
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: charged From what I understand, he is not charged with

863
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: fixing Blazer's games. That's at this moment. What he's charged

864
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: with is a mafia linked rigged poker network. They use

865
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 2: the clip niggas with money, and so of course the

866
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: FIZ has a ci right. So at this moment, Chauncey

867
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: Billups is not charged with fixing Blazer games. And I

868
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: fuck with Chouncey Billups. O g status From everything I

869
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: hear about him, he is a great guy. But if

870
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: you a gambler, you a gambler if you come from this,

871
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: and we gotta keep it a buck, Are we gonna

872
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 2: act like them? Niggas is playing poker with laser X

873
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: ray tables. But that's where they draw the line. See,

874
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: the Fedgs ain't dumb. They really letting you know without

875
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: letting you know. Come on, man, if they playing high

876
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: level poker and really basically robbing they homeboys for money,

877
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: not even their homeboys, they're associates. They're using their face

878
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 2: card to draw me in and robbing them basically. See,

879
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: y'all look at robbery different than I look at robbery. Yeah,

880
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: that's robbery. If I'm playing against you with my money.

881
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: You got X ray tables, that's robbery. You robbing me.

882
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: You just don't got the nuts to take it and

883
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: draw down it. You got to sneak and get it

884
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: from it some kind of peon where you gotta sneak

885
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: and get it and rob me and scam me out

886
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: of it. I get it, you got it, do your thing,

887
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: But I haven't developed the imagination.

888
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: To act like that. The FEDS is a legend, and he's.

889
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: Running up mafia rig poker scheme, and that's where he

890
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: draws the line. So he won't sit somebody if they

891
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: have some money on a player. But at this moment,

892
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 2: see what the Feds also like to do, not even

893
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: just the fizz the police. Sometimes they like to charge

894
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: you with something and let you know, we really can

895
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: charge you with this, but we want you to work

896
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: with us. A lot of people are calling this the

897
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: NBA rico the start of it, And if you know

898
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: anything about ricos, what's the first thing they do. They

899
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: make a couple of rests. See the ricos at the

900
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: tell lied, they make a couple of other rests right

901
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: after they arrest them, pulled them in. Now they can

902
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: come with the rico. Charge Man Chauncey Billups at this

903
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: point is a sitting NBA coach. If you do a

904
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: case study on gambling and professional sports, it's a case

905
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: of fear missing out and it's a case of showing

906
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: you capitalism really controls America. Because they looked at third

907
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: parties and the black market and how much money was

908
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: being generated and said, even if it'll ruin our sports

909
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 2: system completely, even if it poisons the water, we want

910
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: a piece of that money. Ain't no way because see

911
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: what happened was the player prop thing popped up out

912
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: of nowhere. That was like a new thing that was

913
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: some shit that they was doing in the underground.

914
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: See if you.

915
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: Bet it with the right people to right book is

916
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: you knew niggas really been doing player props, overs and

917
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: unders and things like that. It been going on, but

918
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: from a professional level, and in Vegas, of course, because

919
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: that's really where they get it from. But from a

920
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: professional level, like some of these bigger companies, it wasn't

921
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: widespread because the NBA, the NFL, they wouldn't participate. If

922
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: you look right now today some of the top brand sponsorships,

923
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: not even just in our culture, not even in just podcasting.

924
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: When I say our coach, I'm saying podcasting because I'm

925
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: speaking business. When you look at some of the sports agencies,

926
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: some of the NFL, NBA, MLB, NASCAR, you're gonna see

927
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: draft kings, you're gonna see fan duel, you're gonna see

928
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: prize picks. You're gonna see some of these people who

929
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: are now involved in culture. And so the conversation for me,

930
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: I started to have a conversation like I'm not sure

931
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: how premature this conversation is, but I actually had this

932
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: conversation in my head. When I think about it, I

933
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: have deep thoughts and think about their professional gambling ruined sports.

934
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm hearing things in the backdrop, and you know, I

935
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 2: really don't come on the show and tell y'all about

936
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: what be going.

937
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: I'll be getting random texts.

938
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: I got a random text about t Grizzly, I got

939
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: random texts about Lebron were talking in the last three

940
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 2: or four days, just randomly text to my phon't even

941
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: know how people get my number and see, I'm so

942
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 2: new in this game. I'm not sure am I supposed

943
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: to go out and talk about Like are they thinking

944
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: that I'm one of these media guys? Like and I am.

945
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 2: I'm in the business, so I am one of these guys.

946
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: I do have to bring certain things to the coach

947
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: and let you out digestive.

948
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: It's part of what I do. So they got the

949
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: right guy.

950
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: I just got to tune up my system because I

951
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: be getting shited all the time about niggas, and I

952
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: be like, man, I really don't know what I'm supposed

953
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: to do with that. I'm talking about real legit shit,

954
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: too interesting shit. But I think a conversation can be

955
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: had about did gambling ruined sports? Because it's like, I

956
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: think there's an urge to be involved and getting some

957
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: of the extra money, especially for some of the lower

958
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 2: level of people. It's interesting right now because we're dealing

959
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: with people that's quote unquote making a lot of money

960
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: that's still doing this.

961
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: So we'll get to that. I definitely want to speak

962
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: about that.

963
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 2: But but when you think about the coach being involved

964
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 2: in some kind of gambling heist, and you think about

965
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: how much influence the coach has.

966
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: On the game, it's paramount. Man.

967
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: He can pull you out of the game. He can

968
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: just be like, yo, you sit down and so you

969
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 2: can't reach your over and under points like you may

970
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: have over twenty two, you got fourteen, sit you down

971
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: for ten minutes, and he may compromise his ability to

972
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: win that game by sitting you down and not care.

973
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: But the coach has that ability. When we talk about

974
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: each player being involved. As it pertains to professional sports,

975
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: whether that be in the NBA or NFL, my curiosity

976
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily live there. It lives in college sports. I

977
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: think in collegiate sports, that's what we're gonna really see

978
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 2: an issue as it pertains to the gambling the shaving points,

979
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: because what you're dealing with is a bunch of young

980
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: men who may not even make it pro. What they

981
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 2: view this opportunity as with NIL being an option but

982
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: not being an obligation because everyone doesn't get an NIL deal,

983
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 2: and the NIL deal that people are getting is now

984
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,479
Speaker 2: guardrails on those deals to where you're not making life

985
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: changing money if you're not gonna go pro. And so

986
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: again I'm dealing with a particular player that's in collegiate

987
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: sports that understands I do not have a chance to

988
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: go pro, but I am playing a position on this

989
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: team that has influence on the outcome of this game.

990
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: And so, because NIL numbers aren't the greatest for players

991
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 2: who are not playing to go pro and already superstars

992
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: in their brand is already big. Even if you're not

993
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: planning to go pro, your brand probably has to be

994
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: of a certain level for you to even prosper from

995
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 2: an NIL perspective, right, so, you may be getting pennies

996
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: in crumbs from an NIL perspective. As a college collegiate

997
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: sports player, you do have the ability to affect this game.

998
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: And so if you guys are able to bet on

999
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: that this little four year window you have playing sports,

1000
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: you gotta make enough money to take care of everything

1001
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: you have without going pro. And so there's an urge

1002
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: that those young men are fighting that I believe the

1003
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 2: federal government will shine a over there in collegiate sports,

1004
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: and we're gonna have a much bigger problem than we

1005
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: have in the NFL and the NBA that's basketball and football.

1006
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: When I say collegiate sports, because you'll have guys that

1007
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 2: are actually good players, pretty good players in college, maybe

1008
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: not the best, but pretty good players, and on the

1009
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: court majority of the game and aren't involved in the

1010
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: game where they get the ball.

1011
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: They're just not superstars.

1012
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: And some of those guys, I'm afraid that that four

1013
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: years in college has turned into a red zone for

1014
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: them of sorts. And they got to get as many

1015
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: scores as they can get, and they got to get

1016
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 2: mama house and get them a house, and try to

1017
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: get them a car in and try to set their

1018
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: future up, get them a business, because after this, I've

1019
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: worked with niggas and been around niggas that was hell

1020
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: of a college players. And some of those guys have

1021
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: the highlights from college, highlights from high school, and they'll

1022
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: be working next to me driving the forklift.

1023
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

1024
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: And so It's always interesting to understand how far you

1025
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: can can really get in that shit and try to

1026
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: capitalize on every dollar. So I think the infiltration of

1027
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: money being involved has had some consequences and collateral damage

1028
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: that I'm not sure they were prepare for. Maybe it's

1029
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: a bit much to say ruined sports. I think it's

1030
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: definitely altered sports, you know, gambling being a professional thing

1031
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: that a lot of the players are. You can see

1032
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: that're throwing the games, and certain people would have brought

1033
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: out there seeing it.

1034
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: They're definitely seeing it.

1035
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: You know, let's not act like ben has not always

1036
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: been a part of sports. Like even if they outlawed,

1037
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,399
Speaker 2: and I think that's the argument they had, we get

1038
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 2: outlaw it all all we want. We're just missing out

1039
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: on the money because they gonna do it without us,

1040
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: whether they do it underground, whether they do it however

1041
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 2: they do it. They gonna bet on these games without us.

1042
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: It's a capitalistic society, so they wanted some of the money. Now,

1043
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: there's a few different layers to this Chauncey Billups thing.

1044
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: So if you don't know, Gilbert Arenas was arrested a

1045
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: few months ago and what he was arrested on was

1046
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 2: also some gabling shit, you know. I think he was

1047
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: doing some kind of poker house poker games and they

1048
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: mentioned the mafia as well. With Chauncey Billups and Rosier,

1049
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: they also mentioned the mafia. You know, I've seen a

1050
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: lot of individuals coming out and they were wondering, Yo,

1051
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 2: why why don't we see any mafia people being arrested

1052
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: as well? I have to push back on that. I

1053
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: seen some arrest being made for people outside of Chauncey

1054
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 2: Billups and Terry Roseer. I've seen some other gentlemen who

1055
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: were arrested. There were quote unquote mafia figures that were

1056
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: arrested with those people. Also, a young lady was arrested.

1057
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: So if you really looked into the case and did

1058
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 2: just a little bit more googling, you would have been

1059
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: able to see that. Now, I do agree with people,

1060
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: it's not put on the forefront, it's not put out there,

1061
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 2: and so maybe there's a conversation to be had about, yo,

1062
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: they're running this shit in logs and things of that nature.

1063
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: I think our coach is feasting on itself. So when

1064
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: we see something like that happen, not only are we interested,

1065
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: but we're gonna pull the biggest names out of it,

1066
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: the people that matter to us, and we're gonna forefront

1067
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: them and really f those other people. We talking about

1068
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: Chouhncey Billups is a sitting coach man. Ain't the same

1069
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: as my conversation, Yo, we talking about Chauncey Billups is

1070
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: a sitting coach man.

1071
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: How can a sitting coach affect the player.

1072
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: Prop bit even the overall victory a loss, right, the

1073
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: coach has even more effect on the game then probably

1074
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: you can realize we're talking about pace, were talking about

1075
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: minutes played. There's a number of things that the coach

1076
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: controls man that can alter the game. That's why he's

1077
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: a key component of the team. But we're talking about

1078
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: a sitting coach and a player and Damon Jones and

1079
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 2: these people, oh they call Lebron Like this story has

1080
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: so many layers to it. They are speaking about Damon Jones.

1081
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: Hey called Lebron and asked him a few things about

1082
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: is he gonna be available or something. I don't know

1083
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 2: if that's true or not. You know, God for being

1084
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: they dragged Lebron into this kind of shit and ruined

1085
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: the reputation and the brand equity that he's built over

1086
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: the years. Now here's the other part of it. Chauncey

1087
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: Billups has been fucking around with this poker thing for

1088
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: a while, and so we got some professional gamblers, high

1089
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: rolling people speaking about it on the podcast three years

1090
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: ago about Chauncey Billups and quote unquote cheating as he

1091
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 2: was playing poker.

1092
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 4: Pay attention, God, kids are manipulated.

1093
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 8: Man, Benny real quick like this, like his attitude at

1094
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 8: the game.

1095
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: He was always just like so.

1096
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 8: Semi happy, semi grumpy man. I would have never thought

1097
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 8: we were being cheated by by this man this whole time.

1098
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: Like if he didn't just like completely smashed the game.

1099
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, like the absolute perfect shit right.

1100
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, interesting, Yeah, cheating's bad, Okay, it is. There are

1101
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 6: a lot of a lot of stories about it. There's

1102
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 6: there's one that cropped up. This must have been like

1103
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 6: five years ago, twenty nineteenish, I think four years ago,

1104
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 6: where there was this game. It started in la and

1105
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 6: then it came to Vegas for a few days and

1106
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 6: it was all built around Chauncey Billups. And I heard

1107
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 6: I had heard about the game, and the person who

1108
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 6: told me about it was like, look, I know the

1109
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 6: game runners, I'm telling you one hundred percent this game is.

1110
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: On the up and up.

1111
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 6: And I was like, well, I know a lot of

1112
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 6: the people that are involved, and I'm telling you one

1113
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 6: hundred percent that it is not on the up and up.

1114
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know.

1115
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 6: We kind of went back and forth, and I agreed that,

1116
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 6: like I just wasn't going to go play it, but

1117
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 6: I had some friends who went and played it, both

1118
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 6: in LA and in Vegas, and it obviously, like was

1119
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 6: for sure confirmed to be cheated, Like people who clearly

1120
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 6: didn't even understand the rules of no Limit hold them

1121
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 6: are just like jamming hundreds of big blinds in with

1122
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 6: like a gutty and then just willing it.

1123
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: Only the pros are losing, Like how is it figured out?

1124
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: Like it just.

1125
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 4: I can't remember if this was the game where.

1126
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 6: No loud speaker, Yeah, okay, that was, Oh okay, Well

1127
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 6: it's still I mean, it's not like Chauncey and Pierce

1128
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 6: don't know each other.

1129
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1130
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 6: I feel like it's probably the same crowd overlapping there,

1131
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 6: but maybe maybe not. Either way, it was, you know,

1132
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 6: it's basically confirmed amongst all of the pros that the

1133
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 6: game was cheated. But there's just no recourse, gotcha, and

1134
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 6: you know they got at.

1135
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's just no recourse in a lot

1136
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: of these situations.

1137
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 4: Well, it's up to whenever you're dealing with somebody like

1138
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: high profile like that.

1139
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: Because so basically saying that, if I understand them correctly,

1140
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: Chaunceying them got caught cheating against Paul Pierce found out.

1141
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if these stories are legitimate. All

1142
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: this is alleged. Again, I'm not sure, but this is

1143
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, and there's rumblings of Chaunceying them a cheating

1144
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: people in this poker game. It's not on the up

1145
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: and up quote unquote. There's a lot of conversation to

1146
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: be had, right because number one, on one side, you

1147
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 2: have celebrity culture and what happens around the celebrity. Like

1148
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: if you've really been around stars as celebrities, you know

1149
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: there's a world of shit happening around them that some

1150
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: of it they are in tune with it, some of

1151
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: it they're not even in tune with. Like I've seen

1152
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: people hustle off folks for nine and ten months and

1153
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 2: then let's just say we'll ride and they may bring

1154
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: you in for five minutes that legitimize it to get

1155
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 2: you right out of there. They even smart, They smart,

1156
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: they working, and I love it though I ain't gonna

1157
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: lie because I respect games. So I'm I'm watching niggas

1158
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: run game. I'm saying, oh, this is high level game.

1159
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: When you around some of these high level football niggas

1160
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: of Floor and Mayweather or some of these inventory removers,

1161
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: these niggas can press a button and make some of

1162
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: these shit sell.

1163
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about.

1164
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: When you around some of the people, man, A's a

1165
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: world of things happening around them. There's a celebrity culture

1166
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: we can speak on. But then on the other side,

1167
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: there's if what they're alleged is true. With Chancey billup

1168
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: and they've been stealing money from people, it's their x

1169
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: on his head. Because you've been stealing from millionaires, you

1170
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: are now being outed. So everyone that has ever played

1171
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: with you at this point is now saying you probably

1172
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 2: cheated me too. That's the thing about these kind of arrests.

1173
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, what happens is is

1174
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: they don't blow up chanceypot So I'm wondering, is he

1175
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: a mark Man?

1176
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 1: Is he a Mark Mann.

1177
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: At this point, they mentioned in the Mafia they've arrested

1178
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: a few people on that side. He's now been arrested.

1179
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: They're saying that although they have not arrested him and

1180
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: charged him with anything that has to do with throwing

1181
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: Blazer games, they do acknowledge the fact that one thing

1182
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: is influenceding the other, meaning what he's doing over here

1183
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: in basketball. The reason why he would even jeopardize that

1184
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 2: and still fuck around with this over here and poker

1185
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 2: is because both of those things work in tandem some

1186
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: kind of way.

1187
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: They influence each other.

1188
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: So in a roundabout way, they're saying he's involved with

1189
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 2: some betting and the NBA is being drugged in this,

1190
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: and I believe that. I believe that it'll be an

1191
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: NBA Rica on the rise. The gambling shit is alt

1192
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: of the nature of sports, period. There is no one

1193
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: that can argue with me. And so when I ask

1194
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: the question, is Chauncey billups a mark Man? I believe

1195
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: it's a fair question asked because the gamblers and the

1196
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: killers share the same atmosphere. I want to be clear,

1197
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: the gamblers and the killers, they stay around each other,

1198
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: hustlers and the gamblers and the killers. They stay kind

1199
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: of around each other. They need each other, they use

1200
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: each other sometimes. What a dude is that gambling. He

1201
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: needs the hustler to bring him something to smoke. White gambling,

1202
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: and he need a killer too to make sure don't

1203
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: nobody take his money. You see what I'm saying. So

1204
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 2: all of this shit work together. There's a big part

1205
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: of this shit. And so you damn right. I think

1206
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: Chauncey Billups life may be in danger because he dealing

1207
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 2: with some people that got some money.

1208
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: It's some very powerful people.

1209
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: And if you think they can't press a button that

1210
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: to get a button pressed, man, you tripping. Not only

1211
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: the people he worked for and the quote unquote mafia,

1212
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the people he doesn't gamble with.

1213
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: They done lost money to him.

1214
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 2: Because I know if I'm sitting at the house and

1215
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: we been gambling over the years, and you done got

1216
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: me for nine hundred thousand or some over the years,

1217
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: and they done pulled this out saying y'all got X

1218
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: ray tables. When they get them, they might have been

1219
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: having them for the last twenty years. We don't know

1220
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 2: how long they've been having them. So now it calls

1221
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 2: in the question every single time that you set at

1222
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: a table with every person. And we know how small

1223
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: this gambling community is. We know how small the celebrity

1224
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: community is. It's the reason why these dudes share the

1225
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: same women. It's a small little world. It's a small

1226
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: little world we all operate in and we pick them

1227
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: out of there.

1228
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: And that's just how we moved.

1229
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 2: And so although Chauncey was a coach, they made him

1230
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: utilize his influence not only as a coach, as an

1231
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: NBA Hall of Famer, but as a high roller gambler

1232
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: that e done built up over the last fifteen years

1233
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 2: or have along he's been gambling. They made him utilize

1234
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,959
Speaker 2: his influence to do what pull other NBA niggas over there,

1235
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: other rich people they know of Chauncey and this one

1236
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: and that one is in the building. It's some money there.

1237
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 2: You know, if they say an NBA nigga in the city,

1238
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna say, man, let's get it done. I remember

1239
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: when Aiden Ross came to the time they hit me up.

1240
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: I had one hundred thousand dollars poker game for Aiden

1241
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: Ross and I was gonna secure him and we were

1242
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: gonna shake the spot.

1243
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 1: If anything went wrong with him.

1244
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 2: We just want him to be able to come in

1245
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: and gamble on my face card and say, you know what,

1246
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: everything cool, they called me. I set it up. My

1247
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: homeboy was then was already getting down. I said, Man,

1248
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna bring Aiden through there and let

1249
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: him get out man with with some real ones, you know.

1250
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna bring Aiden Ross to there, let

1251
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 2: him get out. But he ended up leaving and going

1252
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: to the Michael Rubin thing. I was gonna escort him

1253
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: right through there with the homis and let him do

1254
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: his thing and really gamble has some fun. But gambling

1255
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: is a part of the coach. There's no way to

1256
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: look at it. It's no other way to look at it.

1257
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: But they cousted him to utilize his influence to lure

1258
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 2: his friends over there and basically take their money. You know,

1259
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 2: I think it's a sad sight to see because again, man,

1260
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: I just want to hammle it point home. On a

1261
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 2: collegiate level, man, I think that's where we're gonna really

1262
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: see a problem. We're gonna really really see a problem

1263
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: on a collegiate level where people can't utilize the nil

1264
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: like everyone else. And then another part of me said

1265
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: to myself when I was having a conversation with the

1266
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: homies and they were saying, well, long, what do you

1267
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: think will make people that's making money twenty eight million

1268
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 2: dollars in eight million dollars a year certain things like that?

1269
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 2: What would make them jeopardize that and gamble? And so

1270
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: as we're having a conversation, I'm trying to iron out

1271
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: some of the details. And so I went down this

1272
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: road and I said, well, man, it's the competitive nature.

1273
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1274
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just so competitive you don't want to lose,

1275
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: and so man, you putting money on it. You just

1276
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 2: no matter what you do, man, you're a competitive person.

1277
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: And unfortunately that argument fell apart because I said, well,

1278
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 2: if you competitive, what hurts more you throwing the game

1279
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: and getting the money and now everyone thinks you a

1280
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 2: shit player, or you winning the game and everyone thinking

1281
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: you a good player and you don't make any extra money.

1282
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: And I'm saying, if you have that competitive spirit, wouldn't

1283
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,439
Speaker 2: it laying on the side of hey, yo, I want

1284
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: to win the game, especially a public game, Or would

1285
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 2: that competitive nature drive you to bet on the game

1286
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: and say I'll throw the game. You know those conversations

1287
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 2: I was trying to have, But I just don't think

1288
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: if you're a competitive person, you want to put losses

1289
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 2: on your record for some secret scam that you're running.

1290
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 1: And see.

1291
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: Another thing about the gambling that I find it interesting

1292
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: is there's a lot of confusion happening when you look

1293
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 2: in the stands or you look at the fans. Say,

1294
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: if you're looking at your data points right, Let's just say,

1295
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: for an example, I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan.

1296
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 1: I mean a die hard.

1297
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 2: It's been passed down from my granddad and his granddad.

1298
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,839
Speaker 2: It's just like being in the family. We really Dallas fans.

1299
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if it's if this is the case,

1300
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 2: walk with me. If I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan and

1301
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: it's been passed down thirty years of my family, and

1302
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm at a home game because the Dallas Cowboys just

1303
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 2: play the Oakland Raiders, There'll be someone next to me

1304
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: that may have bought a high priced ticket that he

1305
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 2: don't really give a fuck about the Dallas Cowboys. He

1306
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: just got a big bank roll on the Dallas Cowboys today,

1307
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 2: on the Ovinando or on this certain player. And so

1308
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 2: it is confused the casual person who doesn't understand it.

1309
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: There's two different people watching these games nowadays. They're sharing

1310
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 2: the balls nowadays, and so what will happen is is

1311
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: you're running in one of these bars and you will

1312
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 2: actually see people who don't give a fuck about the team,

1313
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 2: but because they got money on it, they everywhere the

1314
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: fans are and they're paying top dollar because they're invested.

1315
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 2: It's almost like work for them. I think those two

1316
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: people are coming more and more indistinguishable on both sides,

1317
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 2: whether that's a data point or if you just from

1318
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 2: the naked eye, you come in and you see everybody

1319
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: paying attention to the TV, you think, whoa, it's a

1320
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: lot of fans here. Bro. What you think about that

1321
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 2: new jersey they just dropped. Man, I don't know about

1322
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: no jersey. I got fifteen hundred on this motherfucker. You know,

1323
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: they ain't even really tapped in on what you're saying.

1324
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 2: What you got going? I got money on this game.

1325
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 2: It's five thound on it, you know what I mean.

1326
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: It's just that kind of environment that is now being

1327
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 2: created and it's a part of sports. And so I

1328
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 2: guess the new question in closing is is can professional

1329
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,879
Speaker 2: sports now snap their fingers and get rid of gambling?

1330
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 2: If you're asking me, it's no. They've already created the customer.

1331
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 2: Now what happens if they say, yo, as NBA, NFL,

1332
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 2: we have all made a decision. We're now outlawing gambling

1333
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: because it's now affected the texture of our sport. They

1334
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 2: have no confidence in the outcomes at this point. They

1335
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: believe people are shaving points. We're no longer integrating gambling

1336
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 2: in anything. We're doing it and if you are caught gambling,

1337
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: you'll be outlawed. What happened we DIDNET already promoted this

1338
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 2: to all your fans. Now that'll be the best thing

1339
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: that can happen for some of these companies. And we

1340
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 2: you know, we talk from a business perspective. For some

1341
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 2: of these companies like Prize Pigs or fan Do or

1342
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 2: Draft Kings, that's some of the best shit can happen.

1343
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 2: If they now say we're not involved in it at all.

1344
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 2: We've already introduced the idea to the customer, and so

1345
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 2: we'll just serve the customer. On the black market, it's

1346
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: like ozimpic. They try to outlaw ozembic. Here and there

1347
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 2: people are selling it on the black market because people

1348
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: see it as a weight lost drug. We don't give

1349
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: a damn If you lose muscle mass and your head

1350
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 2: looks big and your shoulders get small, you're losing everything

1351
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 2: with that shorty, not just the weight, you're losing muscle

1352
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 2: mass as well. But we're gonna keep our eyes on it.

1353
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: We haven't even covered what Gilbert said. We may get

1354
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: to that episode, I'm not sure, but we'll keep an

1355
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: eye on what's going on with this NBA rico and

1356
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 2: if it even integrates in collegiate sports, we'll pay attention

1357
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 2: to that. Let's move on what else we got, and

1358
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: so let's have a conversation about a conversation that was

1359
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,440
Speaker 2: had about a nigga that shouldn't never be having a conversation.

1360
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,520
Speaker 2: I was brought up by academics.