1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Go vote, Go vote for Donald Trump. This is a 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: man who has taken a bullet for you in this country. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: This is a man who's been persecuted. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: They've tried to. 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Throw him in jail on multiple occasions. They've tried to 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: bankrupt him. They've investigated him, they've slandered him, they've defamed him. 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: They've gone after his family, they've gone after his friends, 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: they've gone after the people who have worked for him. 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: All you have to do is go and vote. That 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: man's been through everything. All you have to do is 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: go vote. It's simple, right now. What have Democrats called 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: us this election cycle? What have they called Trump supporters 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: this election cycle? We've been called fascist, We've been called Nazis. 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: We've been called garbage, anti women, anti American. That the 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: list goes on. In twenty sixteen, we were called the 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: basket of deplorables and irredeemable. It's that old adage of 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: when someone shows you who they are, believe them. At 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: this point, why wouldn't you believe that the Democrat Party 19 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: hates you? They've told us as much. That's not being hyperbolic, 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: that's just the truth they've told us. Why would you 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: want a party and a group of people who hate 22 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: you to have power. And that's really what this is. 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: To the Democrats, It's about power. They're drunk on power. 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: They've controlled the White House for the past twelve out 25 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: of sixteen years. They control the media, they control the bureaucracy, 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: the deep state, they control Hollywood, they control most of 27 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: big tech. And what do they do to those who 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: are standing in the way. Well, Chuck Schumer gave the 29 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: game away when he said that if you mess with 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: getting back at you. We've seen them do that to 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. We've seen them go after Elon Musk for 33 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: daring to buy X and to make it free, to 34 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: allow for freedom of speech. And mind you, this goes 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: beyond them and earlier than that. And when we saw 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: Obama's irs go after the Tea Party. We also saw 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: during COVID, if you dare to not get vaccinated, they 38 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: went after you. Right, you had nearly half of Democrats 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: wanting to put the unvaccinated like me in government camps. 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: Remember, they were. 41 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Saying that the unvaccinated, that your family shouldn't spend time with, 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: you shouldn't have to be able to go. You shouldn't 43 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: be able to go to the grocery store, have to 44 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: be able to fly. These are people who are not 45 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: deserving a power because of how grossly they wield it. 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: And what if conservatives want, you know, what if Trump 47 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: supporters want? What does Donald Trump want? Patriotism? That's what 48 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: make America Great Again is about. It's about dreaming big, 49 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: as he said, about wanting a better future, of wanting 50 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: the American dream to be attainable again, of believing in 51 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: the flag, not wanting to burn it, of wanting safe streets, 52 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: safe communities, of wanting secure borders, of wanting inflation to 53 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: be able to go down so you can buy a home, 54 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, and God forbid, be able to put food 55 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 1: on the table without maxing out your credit cards, which 56 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: has been a big problem in the United States. Of 57 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: not wanting to send your son and daughter to war. 58 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: It's about patriotism and the fact that the left and 59 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: the Democrats and Kamala Harris hate that so much and 60 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: reject making America great so much. Doesn't it tell you 61 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: everything about their governing philosophy and their beliefs and their principles. 62 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: The future is clearer right the trajectory. 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: Of this country. 64 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: We know where we're heading. Kamala Harris would just be 65 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: doubling down on the same field of policies we're going 66 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: to get from Donald Trump because we saw it, peace 67 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: and prosperity. That's what we had. So, I mean, this 68 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: is the clearest choice I think we've ever had ever 69 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: in electoral history. Please, all you have to do is 70 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: go out and vote for Donald Trump. I've already voted early. 71 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: I've voted for Donald Trump, voted Republicans down the ballot 72 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: here in Florida. I also voted No. One Amendments three 73 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: and Amendment four. It's not that hard. All you have 74 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: to do is go out and vote, all right. So, 75 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: now getting into what this episode is going to be 76 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: about today, there's all sorts of pulling all over the place, 77 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: and at this point it's pretty irrelevant being this close 78 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: to election day. But what do we have that we 79 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: can go off of is early voting data and mail 80 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: in ballot data. That's probably the best barometer of what 81 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: could happen on election day. There's been this whole argument 82 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: by a lot of people in the media, but it's 83 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: sort of a defeatist mentality that somehow because Republicans have 84 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: been doing historically well with early voting, that it's going 85 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: to cannibalize our election day vote. But I've got someone 86 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: on the show who is saying, no, that's not going 87 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: to happen because a lot of these early voters, a 88 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: lot of these people who are returning mail in ballots, 89 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: they're low propensity voters. These are new voters, which means 90 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: that our reliable election day voters are still out there 91 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: and are still going to go to the polls. There's 92 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: even a lot of low propensity voters that could go 93 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: out to the polls. That means that we have enough 94 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Republicans in this country to get the job done in 95 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: the battleground states that we need. 96 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: And why does she know this. 97 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: My next guest, Well, because her entire mission at the 98 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: Sentinel Action Fund is to focus on early voting and 99 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: low propensity voters, and she's been doing so since last spring, 100 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: So she's got the data to back up what she's saying, 101 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: and she's been on the ground working on all of this, 102 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: focusing on a key battleground states and trying to drive 103 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: out and turn out the vote. So we're going to 104 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: talk to her today about why that's important what she's 105 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: been doing and what the data is showing her about 106 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. 107 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: Tomorrow on election Day. 108 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for Jessica Anderson with the Sentinel Action Fund. Well, 109 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Jessica Anderson, it's great to have you on the show. 110 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: I know that, you know, we're. 111 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: All kind of in this waiting game for election Day 112 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: with you know, the stress and trying to figure out 113 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: what's going to happen, but you probably have a better 114 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: idea than anyone at this point. So I'm looking forward 115 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 1: to having this conversation. Appreciate your time. 116 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's great to be here and team minus one 117 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: day till our lives go back to normal. 118 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: I know I was saying, I feel like a you know, 119 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: a keyboard warrior because I work in the media. You know, 120 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm no longer working on these campaigns, so I'm like 121 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: this like anxiousness of feeling like, you know, what can 122 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: I do? Am I doing enough? 123 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: You know? 124 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: Because it's an important election, which is probably why you 125 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: started the Sentinal Action Fund in the first place. I 126 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: guess kind of like big picture take us through, like 127 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: what is it, why did you start it? 128 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: What's the mission? Absolutely so Central Action Fund. 129 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: We founded it last year, coming off of the governor's 130 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: race and helping Governor Younkin in Virginia on the state races, 131 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 3: and what we wanted to do was specifically target absentee 132 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: ballot early vote heading into what's now one of the 133 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: most consequential elections I think of our time, with a 134 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: focus on building out a durable GOP Senate majority. And 135 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: you know, at different parts of this year that looked 136 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: like having a Senate to be the insurance policy if 137 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: Biden was going to win. Obviously, then that shifted to 138 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 3: Harris and now feel pretty strongly that the GOOP Senate 139 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: majority will be a partner to President Trump in the 140 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: White House. And to do that, we set out to 141 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: do two things. First was to change the culture around 142 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: absentee early vote from you know, opposition, skepticism, little antagonism 143 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: that we felt in the party, to do embrace for 144 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: candidates up and down the ballot, to really embrace that 145 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: absentee ballot early vote was the way to properly engage 146 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 3: low propensity voters, and we could do it in a 147 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: way that was safe and secure, that emphasized the convenience, 148 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 3: and then still held true to our beliefs for election integrity, 149 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: knowing that one we win, we're able to actually go 150 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: in and make election integrity reforms, but we have to 151 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: play by the rules as they exist. 152 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: So that was that was one goal for the year. 153 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: And then the second was to engage and turn out 154 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: these low propensity voters, ensuring that our candidates entered election 155 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: day in the most aggressive and strong position as possible 156 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: without cannibalizing or rescheduling election day voters. You know, this 157 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: is not simply an effort to rearrange the deck chairs 158 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: on the Titanic, right. This is about bringing in low 159 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: propensity voters to the election that might not have voted. 160 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: And Lisa, you're so good on the show, I know 161 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: you're gonna ask me next how to define low propensity voters. 162 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: I'll just tell you question. I knew it was coming. 163 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: We look at every voter that's on the voter five 164 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: nationwide and then broken down by a state, is put 165 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: into buckets based on their propensity, and propensity is just 166 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: a fancy word for how often they've voted. So they 167 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: are a registered Republican, which is really important. These are 168 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: not new registrants. They're a registered Republican and they have 169 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: either never voted the last four elections, so they're a zero, 170 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: they voted one of the last four, so there are 171 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: one two of the last four. So there are two, 172 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: three of the last four, three four of the last four. 173 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: So a consistent voter you me many of the people 174 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: that are listening four out of four consistent voter of 175 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: the last election. So low propensity is really defined by 176 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: those that have voted zero, one or two of the 177 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: last four elections. And that's about the right cutoff. The 178 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: four out of four voter. They don't need a lot 179 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: of encouragement to vote. They're going to vote. We don't 180 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: need to be spending money to turn them out. The 181 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: three out of four they may be a swing voter. 182 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: They may have stayed home in twenty sixteen or twenty 183 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: two because of you know, not liking Trump's tweets or whatever, 184 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: and there's different organizations that target those three out of four's. 185 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 3: We really wanted to look at the zero, ones and 186 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: twos and how to turn them out in the absent 187 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: to early vote again, so our candidates were in a 188 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: super strong and aggressive position heading into election day. 189 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: We've got more with Jessica but we've got to take 190 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: a quick commercial break. How is courting and I'll use 191 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: the word courting instead of targeting because it just it 192 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: sounds lovelier. So, you know, how is courting low propensity 193 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: voters different than you know, your registered voters that you 194 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: know we're going to go out every election cycle. 195 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another good question. 196 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: So what we found specifically alongside Governor Younkin and the 197 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: RSLC and the team that was working in Virginia in 198 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, was that to court and turn out 199 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: low propensity voters, we need upwards of thirty individual touches 200 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: for them. So normal political science would tell you that 201 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: an election day voter needs anywhere from three to seven reminders. 202 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: And those reminders can be a text message, they could 203 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 3: be a billboard, they could be a television ad, a 204 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 3: door knock, things like that. 205 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: But they don't need they don't need a lot. They 206 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: need a light touch. 207 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: You know, if they're in a state where you have 208 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: to request an absent tee ballot, you need a reminder 209 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: before the apps and tee ballot request deadline goes through 210 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: to get your you know, to get your request in 211 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: that sort of thing. Very basic for a four out 212 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: of four voter. For these zeros, ones and twos, you 213 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: need a whole program. And when I say thirty touches, 214 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: that could mean every single type of vertical or channel 215 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: to reach out to these voters. So text messages, digital ads, 216 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: a door knock from volunteers that look like them, talk 217 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: like them, are from their community, phone calls, pieces of mail. 218 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: So you use the full suite of really marketing, if 219 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: you will, to create this echo chamber around the voter, 220 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: which frankly, you know they're either going to be annoyed, right. 221 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 4: That that they's so final voting, Yeah, exactly, They're either 222 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 4: going to be annoyed, uh, and then therefore they're going 223 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: to vote because they know that they'll stop being bothered 224 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: when they get their vote cast. And actually some of 225 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 4: our messaging says that are you tired of getting text 226 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 4: messages from me? 227 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 2: Vote today? 228 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: Right? 229 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: And it works. 230 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: But the beauty of this sort of program is you 231 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: you wrap around the voter, and you you wrap around 232 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: them before the onslaught of kind of the election season 233 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: of Red Team Blue team, and you do it in 234 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: the summer and the spring before an election, and that's 235 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: when you talk about how to vote, you talk about 236 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: where to vote, and you kind of build in we 237 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: call it educating like the education piece. We build in 238 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: the education piece with these voters before they add start 239 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 3: and before it's like taken over our lives. And then 240 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: by the time you get to a Memorial Day, you've 241 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: already established trusts with the voter with the hope that 242 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: they know where to vote, they know how to vote, 243 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: and now you talk to them. 244 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: About why to vote. 245 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: So it's a whole it's a different program. You have 246 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: to start early. We've started in all of our target 247 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: states actually in April and May. That way, we have 248 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: a huge runway to get these thirty touches in using 249 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: the multi channels, and in a really complicated state like 250 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania with the Senate race there, we're actually upwards of 251 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: sixty individual touches now, which is I think pretty incredible 252 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: from the coalition work that's been done in the state 253 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: to turn out these voters and it's paying off. 254 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: And your states are Nevada, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Montana that 255 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: you've been focused on. 256 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 3: That's right, those are our four states and we chose 257 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: them for kind of two reasons. One, we wanted to 258 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: fill some of the operational gaps. Obviously, Montana and Ohio 259 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: are two states that are not presidential battlegrounds. President Trump 260 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 3: will win both of those states handily, and we needed 261 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: to have a concerted specific effort for the Senate candidate there. Pennsylvania, 262 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: Nevada both being overlaps that are battleground presidential and battleground Senate. 263 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of really good synergy there. But 264 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: the reason why I also liked Montana and Ohio was 265 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: in both of those cases, John Tester and Montana and 266 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 3: shared Brown in Ohio. These are entrench Democrats, and these 267 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: are the last remaining statewide Democrats holding office in a 268 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: basically red state. So they're the last holdouts for the Dems. 269 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: If you remember going back to like twenty ten and 270 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: twenty twelve during the Tea Party wave, when we were 271 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: looking at those blue dog Democrats, Democrats remember like Mike 272 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 3: McIntyre and Heath Schuler and Larry Still in North Carolina, 273 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 3: all those names, right, those were the last remaining of 274 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: the blue dogs. 275 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: Well Sheriff was at the NRCC during twenty ten. So Macley, yes, yes, 276 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: it was a huge priority. 277 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: And this is the same sort of analogy today where 278 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: John Tester and Jared Brown are the last remaining statewide 279 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: Democrats to hold those positions statewide in states that are 280 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: basically already read. 281 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: You know, and we've had on the show, We've had 282 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: all of these candidates on the on the podcast. I 283 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: think that there should be a lot of credit due 284 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: to the INTERSC for recruiting just like really top notch candidates. 285 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been like John, my producer, and I 286 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: have been so impressed with the Senate candidates that we've 287 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: had on the show, and also Hong Kow in Virginia. 288 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many of them are just 289 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: really qualified, really great candidates. You know, I wanted to 290 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: ask you, I guess walk us through a little bit. 291 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 4: You know. 292 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: You know, part of the reason why you know, we 293 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: need stuff like this with what you're doing with early 294 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: voting and low propensity voters is because of the changes 295 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: from COVID COVID era election changes, particularly to mail in 296 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: ballot and just the expansion of early voting throughout the country. 297 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: Kind of walk us through about like how that has 298 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: changed a lot elections, how it has made campaigns jobs 299 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: more difficult, you know, sort of walk us through about 300 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: what that means. 301 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so COVID really busted up the election integrity landscape 302 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: in a way that we're all still feeling today. They 303 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: called it COVID Convenience Laws. So the goal at the 304 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: state level in many states in twenty twenty was to 305 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: use the you know, the hysteria around COVID to lessen 306 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: whatever election integrity measures were in place. And so you 307 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: saw a lot of states move to one hundred percent 308 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: mail out ballots. So that meant that no longer were 309 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: you the voter responsible for requesting your absentee ballot, but 310 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: instead the state sent it to you automatically. We saw 311 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: this actually in Montana. Funny enough, they did they had 312 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: a mandatory mail out and then they actually peeled it back, 313 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: and so they pulled. 314 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: It back after twenty twenty two. 315 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four, we have to remind Montana voters 316 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: that this is the first time you have to request 317 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: your appsentee ballot in the last two cycles. 318 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: You don't just get it automatically in the mail. 319 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: So changes, you know, they're very technical, Lisa, they're not 320 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: things that like I would say, the average voter is 321 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: like following along and voters are habitual, like they tend 322 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: to do the things, They tend to vote the same 323 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: way that they voted before, and if there's a change 324 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 3: in the law, they may not be aware of it. 325 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: And so from a campaign standpoint, we really have to go, 326 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, kind of above and beyond to make sure 327 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: voters know their rights, that they know the rules that 328 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: govern how they can vote, and that they know the deadlines. 329 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: You look at a state like Pennsylvania that used COVID 330 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: to just completely splinter the election integrity framework in the state. 331 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: It's got, you know, basically sixty something counties in the 332 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: state of Pennsylvania, and every single county votes different and 333 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: they govern how the election is operate, including how many 334 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: days of early vote by the county. So it's not 335 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: even a statewide rule in PA. It's a county by county. 336 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 3: So imagine if you're in a neighborhood and eleventh Street 337 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: is one county and twelfth Street is another, you actually 338 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 3: have different rules that govern how you vote in your neighborhood, 339 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: which is crazy. So COVID changed a lot of things, 340 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: but I think what it did in the long run 341 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: is it woke up state lawmakers and governors to the 342 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 3: reality that they need to do their part to uphold 343 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 3: election integrity. We want to make it easy to vote 344 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 3: and hard to cheat. And that became, I think the 345 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 3: guiding principle that you saw from so many state lawmakers 346 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: from twenty twenty two till today, where there's hundreds of 347 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: new laws that are on the books that provide security 348 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 3: around dropboxes, that look at the voter roles and cleaning 349 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: them up, make sure that making sure that the HHS 350 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 3: and the DMV and the morgue in the state, that 351 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: all these state offices are like talking to each other 352 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 3: and taking a look at the voter rules. And you 353 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 3: saw I think some great examples, even Virginia with Governor Younkin, 354 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: you know, working so hard to make sure that illegals 355 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 3: can't vote in the state and then winning that case 356 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 3: all the way up to the Supreme Court. And so 357 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: all of this attention I think that's been brought to 358 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: the management of elections is actually a direct result of 359 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: the changes that were made over COVID that just opened 360 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: the waterfall. And then now you've got governors and state 361 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: lawmakers doing their part for election integrity. And then we 362 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 3: as an outside organization, we can come in and make 363 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 3: sure that whatever the rules are you know, that will 364 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: govern that cycle, that voters are aware of it so 365 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: that they know how to vote, where to vote, and 366 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: then we can talk. 367 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: About the issues at stake and make the case for 368 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: why to vote, you know, for the Republican candidate. 369 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, there's a lot of evidence 370 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 1: to point to, you know, like, well one, it's like 371 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: we might not like the game that's in front of us, 372 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: but you know, you've got to play it to win. 373 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: And I think part of the shift with even with 374 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, encouraging early voting has been significant and could 375 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: potentially end up propelling him to victory on election Day. 376 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: We've got more with Jessica, but first, this week marks 377 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: one of the most consequential elections in our history, and 378 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: we know that this critical time, the support of Americans 379 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: like you means so much to the people of Israel, 380 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: especially now this past year, not only have we seen 381 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: the war ray John in the Holy Land, but we've 382 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: also seen an alarming rise in anti Semitism. 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Go to support IFDJ dot 393 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: org to learn more and to make a gift. Now 394 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: that support IFCJ dot org call to give an eight 395 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: eight eight for eight eight IFCJ that's eight eight eight 396 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: for eight eight four three two five. 397 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: I think that part of the. 398 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: Story after election day, if people show up, you know 399 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: who are telling you and telling the campaigns they are 400 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: going to show up, is that about Republicans' efforts and 401 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: success in bringing new voters into the fold. Kind of 402 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: walk us through what you've seen in the early voting, 403 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: which you know, the polls right now are pretty much 404 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: irrelevant at this point. 405 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: It's really looking at the early voting data. 406 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: So walk us through, like what you have seen from Republicans' 407 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: ability to bring in new voters, and let's kind of 408 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: maybe focus on Nevada and Pennsylvania just because people are 409 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: obviously very concerned with the presidential races there as well, 410 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: or the presidential race as well. 411 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and both of those states I think are really 412 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 3: good examples of actually Republicans being aggressive for absentee ballot 413 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: early vote and to do it in a way that 414 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: would cut down the Democrats historical and really traditional early 415 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: vote leads. So when you look at a state like Pennsylvania, 416 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: we estimate right now that the Democrats lead going into 417 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: election day from what it held in twenty twenty two 418 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: has been reduced by about forty eight percent. And so 419 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: what I mean by that is you have ballots that 420 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: are returned for Democrats, ballots that are returned for the GOP. 421 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 3: When you met those numbers, you have a historical Democratic advantage. So, 422 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: going back to twenty twenty in Pennsylvania, Democrats had a 423 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: one point four million ballot lead because of the early 424 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 3: vote going into election day. In twenty twenty two, they 425 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: had a seven hundred thousand vote Democratic advantage heading into 426 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 3: election day. So when we hear these, you know, when 427 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: we talk about the twenty twenty two midterms and we 428 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 3: look at the doctor Oz race, you know, he had 429 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 3: a seven hundred thousand vote deficit to make up with 430 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 3: election day voters. 431 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: There was no way that that was going to happen. 432 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: There's not enough day of four out of four voters 433 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: that could have could have closed that gap. So when 434 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: we look at the role that cent Election Fund as 435 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: well as the larger Pennsylvania coalition with Keystone Renewal and 436 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: the RSLC now Elon's team in the state, I mean 437 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: this is an all hands on deck moment to move 438 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: as many low propensity voters to turn out in the election, 439 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: to turn out in the early vote. 440 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 2: What we anticipate is that we will. 441 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,479 Speaker 3: Land somewhere around a Democratic advantage of about three hundred 442 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 3: and eighty maybe three hundred and eighty five thousand, and 443 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 3: so that means McCormick tomorrow heading into election day is 444 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 3: in the most aggressive position that any Republican has been. 445 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: Over the last two cycles. 446 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 3: And that I think will end up the story that 447 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: we look at here because it then gives us, gives 448 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: them strong a strong footing for early vote, and then 449 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 3: you pair that with a robust election day turnout. More 450 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 3: along the lines of twenty sixteen, where you've got the 451 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: Trump momentum, Trump being at the top of the ballot 452 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: drawing people out. And I think specifically in Pennsylvania, when 453 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: you look at the numbers of just how we make 454 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: up that three hundred and sixty eight thousand of the 455 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: likely deficit, you look at both mail and early in 456 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 3: person votes and where the candidates are today, but then 457 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: you also look at a second set of numbers, which 458 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: is the unreturned mail ballots that are sitting on kitchen 459 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: counters today throughout the state of Pennsylvania that need to 460 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: be returned today. And because of the rules in Pennsylvania, 461 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 3: they can actually walk in to their voting location tomorrow 462 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: and return their absentee ballot in person. And so I 463 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 3: think that puts Pennsylvania as a really unique situation that 464 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: the absentee early vote is going to be the difference maker, 465 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 3: specifically when you look at that blue wall basically being 466 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: cut in half heading into election day. And I think 467 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 3: the second point in Pa and then we can talk 468 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: about Nevada, is that the effort has been so robust 469 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania to get absentee early voters that are low 470 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: propensity voters that we've actually seen such a great response 471 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: that we're not simply cannibalizing or rescheduling election date voters 472 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: to vote early. 473 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 2: We're turning out new voters. 474 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: So when you look at Pennsylvania specifically by the numbers, 475 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: you see that we've got a huge amount forty six 476 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: percent that are not election day voters that are turning out. 477 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: And I think that's a real testament to the program 478 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: working and the ability for people to vote for the 479 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 3: first time or the second time in the last four years, 480 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: and they're doing it, and they're doing it through the 481 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 3: absentee ballot early vote process. Now, of course there's going 482 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: to be natural movement that an election day voter, you know, 483 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: like myself, I voted election day the last few cycles 484 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: that I've been able to vote, but this year I 485 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: chose to vote early. 486 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: Well, that's not a bad thing. It's not a bad 487 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: thing if. 488 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 3: You vote early, But specifically for those low propensity voters, 489 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: it's probably the only way we're going to get them 490 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: because they're busy and they're likely to turn around if 491 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: the line is long, or if their childcare falls through 492 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: or their job or whatever, and so you really have 493 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: to open the aperture. 494 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: For them to be able to vote. 495 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: Similar situations going on in Nevada and I think it's 496 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: worth really digging in on the numbers here too. 497 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: We see and we've seen. 498 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: An incredible response in Nevada, and I think the governor 499 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: deserves a lot of credit for the work that he's 500 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: done on the election integrity front. 501 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: And also to to. 502 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: Basically put the Harry Reid machine that's usually ran the 503 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: ground game in Nevada, you know, he's really been able 504 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 3: to match that. And so you're not only going against 505 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: kind of the ghost of Harry Reid, if you will, 506 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: but also the culinary unions and the larger union footprint 507 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 3: that's in Clark County. I mean, it's a huge infrastructure 508 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 3: to try to tackle. And to Sam Brown's credit, who's 509 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: the candidate running in the Senate today, we have him 510 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: up fifty four thousand early in person votes as of 511 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: this weekend. He's behind on the mail votes. So when 512 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 3: those two net out your early in person votes and 513 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 3: your mail votes, we expect that he'll be that he 514 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 3: stays at a thirty three hundred ballot GOP advantage. Now 515 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 3: that number might seem really small, Lisa, and it totally is. 516 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 3: But remember the Nevada Senate election in twenty twenty two 517 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 3: was decided by seventy nine hundred votes. So these are 518 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: these are really tight races in Nevada where literally every 519 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 3: single ballot that's collected and cured and harvested is going 520 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: to matter, is going to make a difference. I also 521 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 3: think for Nevada, you've got an incredible amount of early 522 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: of early voters that are first time voters. Some of 523 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: these voters are could be new transplants that have moved 524 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 3: into Nevada from California after COVID, which is also I 525 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: think something interesting in the data. So of the four 526 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: hundred and three thousand votes that have been cast, we 527 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: think ballots returned for Brown at this point, one hundred 528 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: and eighty six thousand of them are low props. And 529 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: so I think that tells also a good story that 530 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: there's not this election day cannibalization but really. 531 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: Bringing in new voters. 532 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 3: And of course Nevada is worth mentioning that it's a 533 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: totally different setup than Pennsylvania or some of these other 534 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 3: battlegrounds because everybody in Nevada automatically is mailed a ballot, 535 00:27:54,760 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: and so there's really no difference between analyzing unreturned ballots 536 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: versus ballots returned it's statistically insignificant. 537 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: In Nevada. 538 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 3: You really have to look at what the early in 539 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: person vote, the mail vote, and then you rack those 540 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: all up to get these numbers, which put Sam Brown 541 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: in a very aggressive posture heading into election day, and 542 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 3: I think ultimately we'll put President Trump over the finish 543 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 3: line to win in Nevada. 544 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: And what's significant about this for those at home is, 545 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, Republicans don't lead in the early vote, right 546 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: so to be leading in Nevada, I think it's the 547 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: first time in the states, in the state for Republicans 548 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: to be leading, or even in Pennsylvania, for Republicans to 549 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: be able to cut that early vote in mail in 550 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: ballot deficit by as much as they have. That's significant. 551 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: And then the other significant point you made is that 552 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, there's this a lot of talk about because 553 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: Republicans have been excelling in early vote, Well, that just 554 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: means that we don't have enough in the tank. We 555 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: don't have enough Republicans they're going to be able to 556 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: turn out on election day to get us to victory. 557 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: But what you're saying is no, because a significant portion 558 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: of this early vote, of the early return mail in ballots. 559 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: They're low propensity voters, which means that we still have 560 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: enough in the tank of you know, our regular voters, 561 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: the ones that show up every election day, or even 562 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: of some of these new voters you don't tend to vote. 563 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: There's enough of them that you're aware of that can 564 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: get out and show up and win. And I think 565 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: you had made a point to me the other day. 566 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: You know, so in twenty twenty, Biden had an edge 567 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: of you know, eighty five hundred votes in Pennsylvania. And 568 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: how many unreturned mail in ballots are there right now. 569 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: In Pennsylvania, right now, sitting on kitchen counters, you know, statewide, 570 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 3: there's over one hundred and sixty one thousand unreturned mail 571 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 3: in ballots. 572 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: So that would have made the difference of the election 573 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty if so. Basically, the whole gist of 574 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: this is is we have the votes, we have the people. 575 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: The numbers look good. You know, people like Jessica have 576 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: done their jobs. The Trump campaign's done, you know, their job. 577 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: They're still doing their job. The McCormick campaign in Pennsylvania 578 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: are doing their jobs. Sam Brown's doing his drop right. 579 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: So like all you have to do if you're listening 580 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: to this is a vote which is simple. Or in 581 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania just go return your ballot or Nevada just go 582 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: eat it, right. So I mean, it's not that hard, 583 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: like all you got to do is vote, and the 584 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: numbers are there and we can. 585 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: Win, absolutely, and it's not too late, right and in 586 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 3: a lot of places you can still vote today early, 587 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: and then you can be the first in line tomorrow 588 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: nowhere to go and be ready with your plan. And 589 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: I think if we have a strong election day turn 590 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: out tomorrow that's more in line with the twenty sixteen 591 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: turnout numbers, then you're looking at President Trump in the 592 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: White House and a GOP Senate majority that is his partner. 593 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: And how early on tomorrow do you think we will 594 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: have a good idea of you know what we're going 595 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: to learn on election night? 596 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: Oh that's a tough one. 597 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 3: The governor of Pennsylvania had an interview over the weekend 598 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 3: where he was committed to committed at least over the weekend. 599 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 3: So maybe this gets rolled back Democratic governor, but Governor 600 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: Shapiro committed that they were going to they were going 601 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 3: to count through the night and not stop. And so 602 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: I think that's really important. People don't need a break, right, 603 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: you can slide other people in. There's plenty of people 604 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: to help count ballots, and so I think if Pennsylvania 605 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 3: can commit to counting all the way through and not 606 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: taking a break, that's going to be critical. I think 607 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 3: the fact that you've got so many battleground states that 608 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: are on East coast time also helps North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania, 609 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 3: all states that I think are going to be counting 610 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 3: through the night. And then as you move west and 611 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: you look at Wisconsin, Michigan, Montana for the Senate race, 612 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: Nevada for both, Arizona for both, you know, that's when 613 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: I think stuff trickles into the next day. The big 614 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 3: outlier that we just don't know is if it's if 615 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,239 Speaker 3: it's going to be close, both for the presidential and 616 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: the Senate. Nevada's got a frustrating law that's in place 617 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: that could end up at the Supreme Court. It's not yet. 618 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: It's a state law that's been upheld, but it basically 619 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: allows that ballots that are ballots can be counted up 620 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: to three days after election day. And so if it's 621 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: a tight race, then I could see it I could 622 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 3: see Nevada take advantage of all three of those days 623 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: right with they're counting. But if it's not tough, if 624 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 3: it's not tight and it's a landside, then the you know, 625 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 3: the votes out of Nevada matter less for the presidency. 626 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: So I think that's the big factor. But knowing North 627 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: Carolina at Georgia and Pennsylvania on the early side of 628 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: the night by you know two three am is a 629 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 3: good sign for Trump at that point. 630 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: Well, I think, you know, a lot of the conversation 631 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: because of course, you know, the media narrative is always 632 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: weaker to Republicans. That's just you know, sort of like 633 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: the constant theme right when you've got I think it's 634 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: like eighty four percent negati or eighty nine percent negative 635 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: coverage of Trump or whatever it is. But the whole 636 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: narrative has been, oh, Republicans are eating into their election 637 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: day vote, when I think maybe the flip side of that, 638 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: and the better question is, you know, do Democrats have 639 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: enough left in the tank, because you know, they're the 640 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: ones who traditionally and historically get out the vote early. 641 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: They're you know, tend to do better and mail ballots, 642 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: and so do they have the numbers to maintain the 643 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: edge that they have in Pennsylvania or make up, you know, 644 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: the edge that Republicans have in Nevada. So I think 645 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: it's actually the better question is do Democrats have enough 646 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: in the tank and enough excitement on the ground to 647 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: get their people out on election day? 648 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 649 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 3: I mean in Pennsylvania. One way to answer that question 650 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: is the Democrats are sitting on more unreturned mail in 651 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 3: ballots right now today than the GOP is. Democrats have 652 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 3: about over two hundred thousand unreturned mail ballots. That are 653 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 3: you know, sitting on those kitchen counters. They've got to 654 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 3: do the work to chase those in whereas we have 655 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 3: you know, closer to one hundred and thirty thousand unreturned 656 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: mail in ballots. So, you know, I think that difference 657 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 3: is significant, and it's a place we've never been before. 658 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 3: This is not this is like, this is going to 659 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 3: be hopefully a new trend line for Republicans to fully 660 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 3: embrace and utilize the early vote and put our guys 661 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: in as much of an aggressive position heading into election 662 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 3: day that hasn't always been the case. 663 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's this clip of David Oxelrod sort of freaking 664 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: out on CNN the other day, worrying that their people 665 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: just aren't as excited as they need to be and 666 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: that they're not going to be able to get their 667 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: coalition to show up enough on election day. But you know, 668 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: we'll see, right, because we are almost there before we go. 669 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: You know, I guess, how are you what's your read 670 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: on what this election is going to look like when 671 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: it's all said and done. You know, how are you 672 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: feeling about things? 673 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 2: Well? 674 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 3: You know, I don't have a crystal ball, and so 675 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 3: one can only hope and pray at this point. And 676 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: my hope is that President Trump returns to the White House, 677 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: that we keep a House majority, and that the Senate 678 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 3: flips to GOP control by at least fifty three seats. 679 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: I think should be kind of our high water mark 680 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 3: of a goal for tomorrow. And that puts President Trump, 681 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: I think, in the most aggressive position he can be 682 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: for at least the next two years before the twenty 683 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: twenty sixth election, for everything he wants to do, you know, 684 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 3: everything from the economy to foreign policy, to safety and 685 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: security to securing the border. 686 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he. 687 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 3: Needs a strong Senate to be his partner to get 688 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: his cabinet nominations through. What if we have another Supreme 689 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: Court fight. I mean, there's so many things from a 690 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 3: policy standpoint that could happen the next two years. 691 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 2: And I think the I think President. 692 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 3: Trump knows that time is of the essence, and he's 693 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: going to be aggressive in fixing all of the things 694 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: that the Biden Harris regimes screwed up over the. 695 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 2: Last four years. 696 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 3: And I think the economy and the border are probably 697 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 3: two things that he handles right away on day one. 698 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 3: And so I'm hopeful that we'll be at fifty three 699 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 3: in the Senate, keep the House, and that President Trump 700 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 3: will return to Pennsylvania Avenue. 701 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 702 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: I mean I feel good about things, but you know, 703 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: obviously it all comes down to people showing up and 704 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: returning ballots. 705 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: So that's right, it's not over. Yeah. 706 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: And also the irony is, you know, there's such a 707 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: loss faith and institutions, and he's probably the only guy 708 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: that can turn that around, just with transparency and also 709 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: just you know, getting rid of some of these bad 710 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: actors that have led to the loss of faith and institutions. 711 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: Jessica Anderson really appreciate the work you're doing. And then 712 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,959 Speaker 1: where can people learn more about the Sentinel Action Fund. 713 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 3: Centel Action Fund dot com is a one stop shop 714 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 3: for all of our work and you can follow me 715 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 3: on Twitter at jess Anderson too. 716 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Lisa. 717 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: That was Jessica Anderson with the Sentinel Action Fund. Appreciate 718 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: her for taking the time to join the show. Appreciate 719 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, 720 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: but you can listen throughout the week. I doant to 721 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: thank John, Cassie and my producer for putting the show together. 722 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: Until next time.