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Speaker 3: the Cowboys of course taking on the Cincinnati Bengals. And
Speaker 3: for the first time this week we will actually dive
Speaker 3: into the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2: Of this show.
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Speaker 3: kick things off, we'll get to the breaking news of
Speaker 3: the moment, which was revealed by Mike McCarthy and his
Speaker 3: press conference within the last hour, and that is at
Speaker 3: Offensive Guard the future Hall of Famers Zach Martin is
Speaker 3: done for the season. He will have a season ending
Speaker 3: ankle surgery.
Speaker 4: Which has been bothering him for the majority of this
Speaker 4: season that he's tried to play through. Uh, finally these
Speaker 4: last two games.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they had to.
Speaker 4: Tie him down or whatever, but it's like, Okay, we
Speaker 4: need to get a break here. Miss these two games
Speaker 4: and let's see where it goes. And he tipped it
Speaker 4: yesterday and I think most people missed it. He said
Speaker 4: something about that when he was asked if Martin would
Speaker 4: be back, uh in practice, and he said something to
Speaker 4: the effect, well, we're talking about some things and we're
Speaker 4: getting a test done.
Speaker 5: And I heard tests done and I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I don't know about that.
Speaker 4: And sure enough, it's time to have the surgery on
Speaker 4: his right ankle. So it's season ending, you know. And
Speaker 4: he was already before the season ever began, kind of
Speaker 4: throwing out, you know, some signals that this could be
Speaker 4: the last year of his career. It's the last year
Speaker 4: on his contract, by the way, not to be cold
Speaker 4: about this.
Speaker 2: Uh So that was going to be my question, Mike,
Speaker 2: to be just for the season entire.
Speaker 4: And Mike Mike pointed out that he expected uh aren't
Speaker 4: to be in the locker room today to do his
Speaker 4: usual weekly interview, so he said he can talk about
Speaker 4: things like that. He said, I'm sure that question's gonna
Speaker 4: come up, and it's kind of hard. You know, I
Speaker 4: don't know that you get an injury, does it like okay,
Speaker 4: I give or by god, I'm not going out like this.
Speaker 5: So there's two different ways it can go.
Speaker 4: But anyway, you know, back or not next year, because
Speaker 4: of the restructures they did on his base salaries, he's
Speaker 4: going to count seventeen million dollars against the cat.
Speaker 5: So I know that sounds.
Speaker 4: Cold, but that's the reality of, you know, trying to
Speaker 4: keep as many guys on the roster as you can and.
Speaker 5: Push that money down the road. So we'll see what
Speaker 5: he has to say. I think the locker room opens
Speaker 5: around one.
Speaker 4: Fifty maybe something like that today, so.
Speaker 5: We'll see what he has to say.
Speaker 4: So in the meantime, I am assuming brock Hoffman continues
Speaker 4: to be the starting right guard.
Speaker 5: And on the walk off, I was running out.
Speaker 4: Of time because I needed to go down and do
Speaker 4: my fan report, and no one had asked about the
Speaker 4: status of Giton because he did not participate in the
Speaker 4: walkthrough yesterday, and so I was like, I gotta go,
Speaker 4: I gotta go.
Speaker 5: Somebody's got to.
Speaker 4: Okay, Mike, what about geiton status for practice today?
Speaker 5: He'll be with the rehab group.
Speaker 4: So now you're looking at your right guard, Pro Bowl
Speaker 4: future Hall of Famer out, and your first round draft
Speaker 4: choice left tackle is probably gonna at this point questionable
Speaker 4: at best, which means it Doga continues to have to
Speaker 4: step in with Austin Richards already out on injured reserve,
Speaker 4: and then that means Matt, well, let's go's your backup
Speaker 4: swing tackle if Geiton can't go. So just when you
Speaker 4: think you got something going winning two games in a row,
Speaker 4: and then the injury bug continues to spread, not.
Speaker 2: Just on the offensive side but defensively.
Speaker 4: Diggs was at least able to be out there, and
Speaker 4: it was like a walkthrough practice in helmets. It occurred
Speaker 4: after we did our show. So he's missed the last
Speaker 4: two games, but he was running around. I saw the
Speaker 4: stuff that we're doing, so that looked better. But they
Speaker 4: figured he'd be limited today and then CD did not participate,
Speaker 4: nor did Cooks yesterday in the walkthrough, and Cooks is
Speaker 4: going to be with the rehab group and CD's going
Speaker 4: to be limited.
Speaker 2: So with Cooks, the same problem with the need.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think after playing they probably going you know,
Speaker 4: and it had been well usually, so today's practice is
Speaker 4: going to be like the normal Wednesday practice where they
Speaker 4: rested veterans to.
Speaker 5: Make sure they didn't overdo it.
Speaker 4: So I think from that standpoint, tomorrow will be the
Speaker 4: padded practice, which will be more telling maybe going forward
Speaker 4: who can go and who can't.
Speaker 2: But when you look at it, I mean they played Thursday, Yes,
Speaker 2: so they've had a lot more time.
Speaker 5: Yes, to rehab and keep resting.
Speaker 4: Yes, whatever bothers you, I think the Cooks things is
Speaker 4: probably being very cautious.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then Lamb, I'm sure the shoulder. They need to
Speaker 4: rest it as long as they can before he tries
Speaker 4: to go out.
Speaker 2: So no, no growing shoulder. Then no, no, no Lamb's
Speaker 2: shoulder I'm talking. No, his.
Speaker 5: Was a growing calf.
Speaker 2: Something was growing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I'm glad you could say growing, because the
Speaker 4: last guy did this show with brought.
Speaker 5: Us could not say growing. He would say going Darling,
Speaker 5: it's Groy.
Speaker 4: Growing, should not say Groy.
Speaker 2: It must be he must have a thing. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, he's growing.
Speaker 4: Every time there was one, I'd say, so, Brian, what's
Speaker 4: the injury? So uh so that kind of gives you.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's Debbie Downer update, but that's where.
Speaker 2: They that's where we are, that's where it is.
Speaker 5: And that's where they've been all season.
Speaker 2: Right, So what's different? Yeah, we we were hoping that
Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving, you know, I have this ten days that
Speaker 2: everyone would be showing up. But we lost two guys.
Speaker 4: Well, it's like the last I gave you, the guys
Speaker 4: that came back and the guys that were still out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: On Zach Martin, he turned thirty four on November twentieth.
Speaker 5: I thought he was thirty five.
Speaker 3: Thirty four, thirty four November twentieth, you know, I think
Speaker 3: it may have been the Detroit game earlier in the season.
Speaker 3: He whiffed on a guy and they showed the replay
Speaker 3: of it, and I remember saying at the time that
Speaker 3: he's got he's dealing with something, right. You know, you
Speaker 3: don't when you're a nine time pro bowler, that doesn't
Speaker 3: happen unless you're dealing with an injury. Usually when performance
Speaker 3: goes down. There's an injury reason for that. With a
Speaker 3: with a player of that.
Speaker 2: It has to go all the way down, because if
Speaker 2: you're good enough, then mentally you can stave off you know,
Speaker 2: some of the plays like that. Yep, but if you're
Speaker 2: mentally mentally strong. But you know, I think he was
Speaker 2: at his last I said, it's WIT's end.
Speaker 3: That that was our first clue that it's going to
Speaker 3: be doubtful that this guy's gonna be able to make
Speaker 3: it through the entire season if he's well.
Speaker 5: Think about it. It's your right ankle.
Speaker 4: So and and you're your right guard, So what's your
Speaker 4: first move in past blocking? Probably your right foot's got
Speaker 4: to go down in the ground and you know, and
Speaker 4: you're pushing off.
Speaker 3: Can't wait for Natan Frisco to chime in.
Speaker 4: That's right, yes, And it was pointed out that there
Speaker 4: were times where you can see that right foot was
Speaker 4: coming up off the ground because he couldn't put enough
Speaker 4: pressure on it, and uh, yeah, that's that's just that's
Speaker 4: a shame that that that one hurts.
Speaker 3: And Zach Martin is the Cowboys nominee for the Walter
Speaker 3: Payton NFL Man of the Year Award. Correct, every every
Speaker 3: team has a nominee, and Zach Martin is the teams
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 4: And he's been pretty involved. And heck if he's you know,
Speaker 4: I know, it's kind of a community type thing man
Speaker 4: of the Year, but he's also the man of the
Speaker 4: year in that locker room too. And and I think
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy said it best. He goes the offensive line
Speaker 4: room is an illustration of his leadership because they feel
Speaker 4: like that's a really good room.
Speaker 5: How they've brought along young guys and it's.
Speaker 4: Him, right, think about it, when they run out for
Speaker 4: the game. Now, with Tyron Smith not here, the first
Speaker 4: guy coming out through the line is Sack Martin. The
Speaker 4: first guy that comes out usually when they do anything
Speaker 4: as an offensive line, it's Zack Martin. Now, I guess
Speaker 4: the metal goes to Terrence Steele is going to be
Speaker 4: the most experienced guy out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would be.
Speaker 2: Yep. How many years are we talking.
Speaker 5: Five?
Speaker 3: Maybe this five? I think it's fi year. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: by Tyler Smith right. And by the way, speaking of
Speaker 3: Tyron Smith, he just got put on injury reserved by
Speaker 3: the New York Jets too. So here's the interesting thing
Speaker 3: when you look at Tyron Smith and Zach Martin. Tyron
Speaker 3: came in as a first round draft pick in twenty eleven.
Speaker 3: Zach Martin came in as a first round draft pick
Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen. Right now, as we speak, right now,
Speaker 3: they are both thirty four years old, even though there's
Speaker 3: a three year difference of when they came into the league.
Speaker 3: Tyron turns thirty five December twelfth, so he is actually
Speaker 3: is basically eleven months older than Zach Martin. But there's
Speaker 3: a three year difference in when they came into the
Speaker 3: league because Tyron came in and ye, Tyron came in
Speaker 3: the league at the age of twenty in this, I
Speaker 3: take that back, I take that back. Oh you're going
Speaker 3: to correct me. You're looking Uh, Tyron will turn thirty four.
Speaker 3: Zach is actually older than Tyrant. Yes, even misreaded. Zach
Speaker 3: came out after yes, three years by three years.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yes, Tyron will turn thirty four on December twelve.
Speaker 2: He was when he was young, exactly right.
Speaker 3: Speaking of so twenty twenty eleven draft Tyron Smith December
Speaker 3: birthday in he was twenty years He didn't turn twenty
Speaker 3: one until December of his rookie season. What's the day, December.
Speaker 5: Twelfth, December twelfth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, well uh and so it was tyron
Speaker 3: third year. He was in college for three years, and
Speaker 3: he was young when he went to USC.
Speaker 2: He must have been.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he went at seventeen maybe.
Speaker 3: And then Zach was a five year guy in Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: And you see that's what happened. Happened, Yes, plus played
Speaker 3: four years as like me and me and Eugene Lockhart.
Speaker 2: I used to tease him because he came by in
Speaker 2: eighty four and we're damn a the same age one
Speaker 2: like man, how many years you stay in school? It
Speaker 2: wasn't college, a high school, thirteen years of high school.
Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting. And now both you know, Tyrant
Speaker 3: obviously has been battling injury issues for several years now,
Speaker 3: and now both have decisions to make about the future.
Speaker 2: Yep. I would imagine if the Jets were still in
Speaker 2: it and doing well, and if Aaron Rodgers you know,
Speaker 2: predictions would have come true, then probably timing, would we
Speaker 2: still be playing. I don't think he would have gone
Speaker 2: if he had anything to say about it. On the
Speaker 2: edge of reserve.
Speaker 3: List, let me check on his injury issue. This year.
Speaker 4: He still had that elbow braced up. It looks like
Speaker 4: the guy on the Fox pre game he comes out
Speaker 4: with all that armor on.
Speaker 5: That's what he looked like.
Speaker 3: Okay, this latest injury for tiring.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: He last played on November tenth, when he injured his
Speaker 3: neck in a blowout loss to the Cardinals.
Speaker 4: So well, at this point, you ain't messing around with
Speaker 4: a neck injury, are you?
Speaker 3: At any point you're not messing aroun?
Speaker 4: Well, I know, but especially after you know you've played
Speaker 4: this long.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 5: So get a rookie at center. Second year.
Speaker 4: Basically came into the league as a free agent.
Speaker 5: Right guard in Brock Kauffman and Brock Kaufman.
Speaker 3: And then you he was twenty four. Uh, he's twenty
Speaker 3: five years old, all.
Speaker 4: Right, and then you're not sure what's happening at the
Speaker 4: left tackle midweek as.
Speaker 3: It stands right now, you had have to assume idoga
Speaker 3: if Tyler, well, of course it's still early on. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: this is like like a Wednesday, because that's a Monday
Speaker 3: night game.
Speaker 4: I don't want anybody to remind me what I said
Speaker 4: about if they had to start a doga because you'll
Speaker 4: be in here on your own Tuesday.
Speaker 2: We can't lose you, Mike. We got to change the
Speaker 2: name of the show, and it takes a lot.
Speaker 4: And by the way, it'll be no shots.
Speaker 2: We got graphics and everything. That's a lot.
Speaker 3: So you've got Terrence Steele at right tackle, who did
Speaker 3: come into the league in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: Okay, so this is as a college free agent fifth year.
Speaker 3: You have at right guard, brock Hoffman.
Speaker 5: Came into the league.
Speaker 3: Came into the league as a college free agent in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, two years ago. And at center, you've
Speaker 3: got the rookie third round draft pick Cooper bb And
Speaker 3: at left guard you've got your first round pick from
Speaker 3: twenty twenty to Tyler Smith. And we'll see where Tyler
Speaker 3: is your first round pick this year at left tackle.
Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, you're starting cornerback hasn't played
Speaker 4: the last two games.
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs. Travon Diggs. There is hope that for the
Speaker 3: first time ever, if Diggs can play this week, that Diggs,
Speaker 3: Bland and Lewis could be your cornerback trio on Monday night.
Speaker 4: So maybe before we take a deeper dive into Cincinnati,
Speaker 4: their strengths are basically where the Cowboys' two weaknesses we've
Speaker 4: just been talking about.
Speaker 2: So that strength is defensive line.
Speaker 5: Some guy named Hendrickson.
Speaker 3: As adge rusher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard that, that guy.
Speaker 4: And I think I didn't look it up, but I'll
Speaker 4: take the word. Somebody mentioned he's leading the league and.
Speaker 3: Exactly eleven and a half sacks, and I guess how
Speaker 3: many he had last year?
Speaker 5: Eleven and a half.
Speaker 3: Nope, we had seventeen and a half last year.
Speaker 5: He's on his way over the lote.
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson, where's number ninety one for yours? Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 3: the last four years fifty one sacks, so it's not
Speaker 3: like a one year he wonder.
Speaker 4: And then on the other side of the ball, the
Speaker 4: quarterback leads the league in yards passing, completions, attempts, and
Speaker 4: touchdowns with thirty and you would certainly hope Diggs could play.
Speaker 3: And they've got a wide receiver who leads the league
Speaker 3: in receiving yards and touchdowns with thirteen and Jamar.
Speaker 2: Chase and frustration, so he's coming here pissed off every week.
Speaker 2: He's pissed off. That's probably why they won't pay it
Speaker 2: keep him playing pissed off.
Speaker 4: His So we're going to talk about the cowboys chances
Speaker 4: of beating the four and eight Bengals. That Vegas doesn't
Speaker 4: think they have a chance when we're next.
Speaker 3: Here, so they don't think the Cowboys have a chance.
Speaker 4: I saw that they were five and a half points underdogs.
Speaker 2: I've seen it.
Speaker 3: Well, we're going to discuss.
Speaker 2: So surprised about that?
Speaker 3: Bill?
Speaker 2: Come on, we have one home win. Why are you
Speaker 2: so surprised about that?
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that next.
Speaker 2: Cincinnati has those numbers that you just called out.
Speaker 3: And a four and eight record, and they they're the
Speaker 3: second team in history, along with the two thousand and
Speaker 3: two Kansas City Chiefs, to have four losses this season
Speaker 3: in which they've scored over thirty points.
Speaker 5: Oh, I got a good one for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's how good this offense is. Let's look
Speaker 2: at that. I love your optimism, man, I love.
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at way you approach it. They got
Speaker 3: a worse record than this team.
Speaker 5: An I'm gonna give you some clarity on that four
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, thank you, that's what I like.
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Speaker 4: So if I go to a game Friday night, can
Speaker 4: I walk down the middle aisle.
Speaker 3: There with the heroes?
Speaker 2: You can light at yourselfs bags, light the tree?
Speaker 3: What game Friday night?
Speaker 5: Reedy and Highland Park.
Speaker 3: That's right, the Highland Park. No, it's not ready. That
Speaker 3: was last week.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. It's a lone star star. Yeah, ready was
Speaker 5: last week?
Speaker 3: Ye and lone star. By the way, for those of
Speaker 3: you unaware about the players that have come out of
Speaker 3: a lone star high school here in Prisco, Texas, yes, uh,
Speaker 3: there's a number of them playing prominent roles in the NFL.
Speaker 3: One of them you saw on Monday night catch a
Speaker 3: touchdown pass for the Denver Broncos Marvin Mimes. There's a
Speaker 3: middle linebacker for the Kansas City Chiefs named Nick Bolton,
Speaker 3: who's out of the Missouri that's right. But more significantly
Speaker 3: right now going forward in the next week is a
Speaker 3: guy by the name of Ashton jin not only for
Speaker 3: the next week, but we'll probably be talking about him
Speaker 3: for the next several months. Here Ashton Genty, the Boise
Speaker 3: State running back at a lone star high school in Frisco,
Speaker 3: who has over two thousand yards rushing. He will be
Speaker 3: at the Heisman Trophy ceremony, not official yet, that'll be
Speaker 3: announced I think on Monday, and Heisman Trophy candidate and
Speaker 3: first round draft pick candidate Ashton Genty of Boise State.
Speaker 2: So we're looking at how many yards are we looking
Speaker 2: at for Ashton Genty? For Ashton Genty, well, I'm going
Speaker 2: to have to look that up for you. And will
Speaker 2: his next game a bowl game or a playoff game?
Speaker 3: Well, he's got potentially several games in his future now,
Speaker 3: depending on what happens in their conference championship game this week.
Speaker 3: I think it's they play the Mountain West Conference championship
Speaker 3: game against UNLV. What's the date today? Tomorrow night they
Speaker 3: play for Friday Night fight Friday Night game on Fox
Speaker 3: Astion genty will be in action. His career stats you
Speaker 3: asked or his status this year, he has two thousand,
Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty eight yards rushing on three hundred
Speaker 3: and twelve carries, twenty eight touchdowns. It's seven point three
Speaker 3: yards of carry.
Speaker 2: That's a lot.
Speaker 3: Seven point three yards of carry.
Speaker 2: So when we're talking, I mean, I know this is
Speaker 2: crazy numbers. We're talking here. What what what is the
Speaker 2: record well rushing in one year? Well is that?
Speaker 5: Well the career record Ricky Williams.
Speaker 2: How much did the run for him?
Speaker 3: That's a career career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the season just see that's.
Speaker 3: Why I'm looking up Barry Sanders right now.
Speaker 4: And I believe it is Barry Sanders.
Speaker 3: And in fact, but there is a discrepancy on what
Speaker 3: gets reported on Barry Sanders' numbers that season. I'm looking it.
Speaker 2: Up right because of number of games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he played in a bowl game or an
Speaker 3: end of the Sea. Wasn't a bowl game. It was
Speaker 3: an end of season game. They played Texas Tech in Japan,
Speaker 3: and for some reason that did not get included on
Speaker 3: his stats in some places. So for whatever reason, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was like a December game and for some reason
Speaker 3: it didn't let me look up what extra one?
Speaker 4: And remember, so he's got playing eleven regular season games.
Speaker 2: That's what I was looking at. Yeah, and that's why
Speaker 2: I wanted to.
Speaker 3: Know two thousand, six hundred and twenty eight all right,
Speaker 3: and according to what I'm reading right here, I got
Speaker 3: to look that up to confirm that. Let's just say
Speaker 3: it includes it right now. It may be more than this. Actually,
Speaker 3: Sad said thirty four NCAA Division one FBS records in
Speaker 3: college career still holds the following records most rushing yards
Speaker 3: in a season two thousand and six hundred and twenty.
Speaker 2: Eight, and that would be eleven games.
Speaker 5: Did they count the bowl game?
Speaker 3: And that's why I've got to figure out here.
Speaker 2: Let me go back.
Speaker 4: Sometimes back then they didn't count the bowl game because
Speaker 4: not everybody gets to play a twelve.
Speaker 3: Cevon and that's that may be the discrepancy.
Speaker 5: And now Pat Jones, his old.
Speaker 3: College coach, Pat Jones, he is on top of it.
Speaker 3: And I've heard him talk about this before that he
Speaker 3: doesn't get credit for that that game against Texas Tech. Well,
Speaker 3: for some reason, the WiFi is not active, okay, correctly
Speaker 3: here anyway, we know the track all right, So where
Speaker 3: were you going this segment? I can't remember.
Speaker 4: We were talking about scoring a lot of winning.
Speaker 5: So how about this not counting?
Speaker 4: Since an the other thirty one teams so far this
Speaker 4: year that have scored thirty three points or more in
Speaker 4: a game this year, they are fifty three to one.
Speaker 4: The Cincinnati Bengals are two and four scoring thirty three
Speaker 4: points or more.
Speaker 5: So think about that.
Speaker 4: Even the Cowboys are two and zero scoring thirty three
Speaker 4: points or more. So that tells you that while Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow is playing at an extremely high level, they're giving
Speaker 4: up so many points.
Speaker 5: It's like they they got a four and eight record.
Speaker 5: How do you have a four and eight record? They
Speaker 5: have six losses.
Speaker 4: When scoring at least twenty five points. Six of their
Speaker 4: eight losses, and of the eight losses, seven are one
Speaker 4: possession games, so no more than eight points or less
Speaker 4: they've they've lost by it.
Speaker 2: So if you look at this game coming up, and
Speaker 2: if you want to predict something, you would say that
Speaker 2: we cannot score enough points?
Speaker 5: Right exactly?
Speaker 2: Can we need to whatever we have in our offensive bag,
Speaker 2: we need to bring it out for this game.
Speaker 4: Someone jokingly said to me, well, if they're going to
Speaker 4: beat this deed, they better score fifty and they have
Speaker 4: three losses, by the way, by a grand total of
Speaker 4: five points. So they've been right there. They just haven't
Speaker 4: closed on these games. They just haven't won. You know,
Speaker 4: Bill was talking about Jamara Chase leading the league with
Speaker 4: thirteen touchdowns.
Speaker 5: He's got seventy nine.
Speaker 4: Catches, so he and Ceedee Lamb are tied for second
Speaker 4: and forty two yards already with five games to go,
Speaker 4: fourteen point five yard average and thirteen touchdowns. That that's
Speaker 4: a season. Yeah, right, so yeah, they you know, they
Speaker 4: averaged twenty eight points a game. Cowboys average twenty point
Speaker 4: six points a game.
Speaker 5: But yeah, they've got to.
Speaker 4: Score and score big to be able to win offset
Speaker 4: what their defense isn't doing.
Speaker 2: So let's look at it from another standpoint. What can
Speaker 2: we do defensively to at least, you know, derail them
Speaker 2: for one drive two drives that might make the difference
Speaker 2: in the game, which seems to be what's been happening
Speaker 2: in the previous games for Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: You got to get to Burrow, you got to get
Speaker 4: to them. Now he's been sacked thirty times, which interceptions.
Speaker 4: How about this for a weird one. The Cowboys quarterbacks
Speaker 4: have been sacked thirty times. He has completed three hundred
Speaker 4: and two passes. The Cowboys quarterbacks have completed three hundred
Speaker 4: and two passes.
Speaker 2: But obviously his has been for more.
Speaker 4: More, more yards, significantly more yards. But again, their offense
Speaker 4: has been awfully, awfully good. But you've got to control
Speaker 4: Burrow because obviously, how is he looking on turnovers?
Speaker 5: He's got five interceptions.
Speaker 4: That's not bad at all with what's he's attempted today.
Speaker 5: I wrote that down.
Speaker 2: I think with him, you have to go for the
Speaker 2: strip sacks. As you know. Of course interceptions would be nice,
Speaker 2: but strip sacks would be really important in this game
Speaker 2: because he gets sacked a lot.
Speaker 4: He's he's attempted four hundred and forty six passes, most.
Speaker 2: In the league, and only five interceptions.
Speaker 5: And only five interceptions.
Speaker 2: You've gotta you've got to go for the strip sack.
Speaker 2: You gotta make him, got to get to him. You
Speaker 2: got to get to him and make them cough it up. Now.
Speaker 2: I also.
Speaker 4: Had just noticed, and I believe it was in the
Speaker 4: Cowboys release, that in the past four weeks since Parsons
Speaker 4: is returned, the Cowboys have sixteen sacks so they are
Speaker 4: tied with Denver for the most sacks in this four week,
Speaker 4: last four week period, and that's what I'm talking.
Speaker 3: Sixteen sacks in four weeks.
Speaker 2: And that's where the strip sacks have to come in. Right.
Speaker 3: You know what that number would be if you extrapolated
Speaker 3: that over a seventeen game season, how many sacks that
Speaker 3: would be.
Speaker 5: You got to multiply by four.
Speaker 3: Seventeen times four is what nicky quick?
Speaker 4: No, I mean, if you got sixteen in four weeks,
Speaker 4: then you multiply that by four what four more.
Speaker 3: Right, seventeen weeks in a season? Yeah, four per week,
Speaker 3: and so that would be sixty eight sacks. That's the
Speaker 3: rate that they're on here the last four right games.
Speaker 2: Right, And that's what gives me optimism, Right.
Speaker 5: They can continue sacking.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right? Then, it was it's so good to see
Speaker 2: Michael Passon's back because it just seems like, ah, now
Speaker 2: I recognize this defense. You know, that's one of those
Speaker 2: things that, yeah, we still have our flaws, but I
Speaker 2: would that's why we drafted the guy. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: why we have such optimism about not just him, but
Speaker 2: when he's on the field with this defense, we kind
Speaker 2: of started believing in him again. You know, just give
Speaker 2: me on secondary back. Put Michael Pauses in there, you know,
Speaker 2: just play solid the rest of you guys. We got
Speaker 2: a pretty good damn defense, you know.
Speaker 3: And how they're using over shown to get to the quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Overshow's got five sacks himself.
Speaker 4: It's the combination of those two guys.
Speaker 3: It's like usually a couple of weapons there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to know what their single season record
Speaker 4: for sacks is for the Cowboys nineteen eighty five? How
Speaker 4: many think you think you had because you had a
Speaker 4: whole lot of interceptions too, right?
Speaker 3: Forty no, fifty five sacks?
Speaker 5: What are you saying sacks?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: No, sixty two.
Speaker 3: I mean this team's got thirty four sacks right now
Speaker 3: in twelve games.
Speaker 4: So interceptions single season just happened to be eighty one
Speaker 4: thirty seven, second eighty five thirty three.
Speaker 3: So you guys, how many in two years ago or
Speaker 3: whatever was two years ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah? When when Diggs got the they were a bunch.
Speaker 3: While you're looking that up, how many times has Joe
Speaker 3: Burrow played here? One played the Cowboys here two years
Speaker 3: ago and the Cowboys won that game? How many times
Speaker 3: did the Cowboys sack him in that game is the
Speaker 3: second game of the year, six six and it was
Speaker 3: a by the way, a quarterback matchup of Joe Burrow
Speaker 3: versus Cooper Rush because it was the week after Dak
Speaker 3: got hurt. It was so it was Rush's first start
Speaker 3: after Dak's injury, second game of the season, and it
Speaker 3: was a twenty to seventeen Cowboys win. And Hendricks was
Speaker 3: in that game, right, Oh yeah, walk off field goal
Speaker 3: Brett Maher a fifty yard walk off field goal. This
Speaker 3: is called foreshadowing for my pick tomorrow.
Speaker 5: So what did what year? Did you want to know? Sacks?
Speaker 3: Oh, twenty interceptions, interceptions.
Speaker 4: The interceptions in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Two, whatever year it was, Yeah, twenty twenty two or
Speaker 3: twenty one whatever, ye.
Speaker 2: When Digs got eleven.
Speaker 4: So defense interceptions.
Speaker 3: Really like led the league.
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty one they had twenty six in or so okay,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two they had sixteen.
Speaker 3: Okay, so twenty six. It was the twenty twenty one
Speaker 3: season I'm thinking of.
Speaker 5: And then in so there.
Speaker 3: It was takeaways they were up in the thirties, right right.
Speaker 2: Sacks and that would be strip sacks fifty.
Speaker 5: Four sacks in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Two, okay, and then he that's a good amount of sacks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a good amount of sex.
Speaker 5: That is Yeah, what year were you asking then?
Speaker 3: Twenty one or twenty two? Where do sacks go?
Speaker 5: This is hard.
Speaker 3: They gotta do this better.
Speaker 5: Forty one sacks.
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one, okay, fifty four and twenty twenty two,
Speaker 4: and last year forty six.
Speaker 2: Okay, twenty two.
Speaker 3: Have you had enough numbers this segment? Yes, I'm going
Speaker 3: to give you one more. Barry Sanders Okay. I don't understand.
Speaker 3: Why do they have his record for a single season
Speaker 3: at two thousand and six hundred and twenty eight when
Speaker 3: it's not that it's two thousand, eight hundred and fifty.
Speaker 3: They don't include this bowl game win over Wyoming in
Speaker 3: the Holiday Bowl, which was December thirtieth of the nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty eight season. He said that back then they didn't
Speaker 3: include bowl games in the records. Well, why well, let's
Speaker 3: update it. What are we doing?
Speaker 5: They have they do now?
Speaker 3: So yeah, so let's go back in nineteen ten day
Speaker 3: add that one because it's the most important in the
Speaker 3: history of college football. The guys set the record for
Speaker 3: most rushing yards in a season. And if you look
Speaker 3: at his Wikipedia page, you look at any other page
Speaker 3: where you got stats, it's not says two thousand and
Speaker 3: six when it should be two eight hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: is the record, especially when you consider the fact this
Speaker 3: Boise State team they could be potentially playing not only
Speaker 3: in the conference championship game, but they're going to get
Speaker 3: a first round if they win that game, they'll get
Speaker 3: a first round by in the playoffs, and they could
Speaker 3: play three more games if they if things worked out
Speaker 3: for so, are we going to include those in Genti's stats?
Speaker 2: Did they include the the.
Speaker 3: Texas Tech game?
Speaker 2: What they did? They did?
Speaker 3: And in that Texas Tech game in Tokyo, he had
Speaker 3: three hundred and thirty two yards in the was it
Speaker 3: Holiday both in air or something? In the Holiday Bowl?
Speaker 3: In the Holiday Bowl, Barry Sanders his last year in
Speaker 3: Heisman year at Oklahoma State, had two hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: two yards and five touchdowns. He also threw a pass
Speaker 3: in that game. But so to give him twenty eight
Speaker 3: to fifty that season, get this, he had three hundred
Speaker 3: four yards rushing in one game. He had three twenty three,
Speaker 3: twelve and three thirty two, he had four games in
Speaker 3: which he ran for over three hundred yards.
Speaker 2: So overall, we're talking how many games for the twenty
Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty yards?
Speaker 3: They one, two, three, four, then another record up here,
Speaker 3: one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,
Speaker 3: twelve twelve game season games, twelve games, twenty eight fifty
Speaker 3: and genty's already played twelve games. Yeah, and he's at
Speaker 3: whatever he was twenty two, yeah, twenty two hundred.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 3: So how unbelievable is very saying.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. If that's all I want to
Speaker 2: get to, that how unbelievable.
Speaker 4: They keep if they keep winning, like go to the
Speaker 4: championship game, they'll end up playing what fifteen games?
Speaker 2: They could? Right? Yep?
Speaker 3: He can break the record then, well they could, they
Speaker 3: could play sixteen sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not fair though, you know, when you
Speaker 2: want to talk about numbers and matchups and history versus now,
Speaker 2: you know it's not fair to Tory.
Speaker 5: But they might get a bye.
Speaker 2: Well that I'm.
Speaker 3: Including the buy in there. Oh you did? Yeah?
Speaker 5: If they get the fourth seed.
Speaker 3: Right, so all right, that does it for a numbers
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Speaker 3: All right, Mickey, you got a lot of stuff on
Speaker 3: your legal pad. This is Mickey's legal peg segment. Anything
Speaker 3: else come out of that press conference?
Speaker 5: What else came out press conference?
Speaker 3: Here? We had a press conference after our show yesterday too,
Speaker 3: so you're dealing up working off of two press conferences.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hendrickson. They asked Mike McCarthy what made him so good,
Speaker 4: and he said he's got a great motor and he's
Speaker 4: a technician technically sound.
Speaker 5: What said he has it. He's having a great year CDs.
Speaker 4: He was asked about see these drops, you know, and
Speaker 4: it's like, well, maybe the shoulder on a Warner. So
Speaker 4: the other ones were concentration trying to run with before
Speaker 4: we caught it.
Speaker 3: The one, the glaring one, yes, the wide open where
Speaker 3: he could have ran for and which just threw the
Speaker 3: whole back half of the second quarter when they didn't
Speaker 3: get the first down when they went for it with
Speaker 3: Lipke running.
Speaker 4: He also said that they've done a better better job
Speaker 4: of when they have to go against these great pass rushers,
Speaker 4: that they have a better variation of helping out our
Speaker 4: tackles because previously they just lead the guy out there,
Speaker 4: no matter who it was.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: So, I noticed in the game on Thanksgiving, when a
Speaker 4: doga started struggling out there, it was like, Okay, the
Speaker 4: tight ends over there.
Speaker 3: Mickey is just hanging on every step I keep an
Speaker 3: eye on.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're just looking out for him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just trying to help him. I'm getting that
Speaker 4: tight end over there. And the tight end got over there,
Speaker 4: and you know, it kind of.
Speaker 3: Helps out. So Jake Ferguson is out a concussion protocol.
Speaker 3: He is, That's the other one I was, and he
Speaker 3: is on the practice field right now.
Speaker 2: Hey, schoolmakers like, hey, bro, I'm enjoying myself.
Speaker 5: Well, that was the question.
Speaker 2: It was, I'm enjoying myself out here. Just go ahead
Speaker 2: and rest. I will. We'll be good out here with
Speaker 2: just me.
Speaker 5: I think it was. I can't remember if it wasn't.
Speaker 4: David Moore's first question, but he asked Mike Well with
Speaker 4: Jake ferguson coming back and knowing what you've got with
Speaker 4: scoon Maker, does that make your two tight end attack
Speaker 4: or formation even more you know, valuable?
Speaker 5: Can you do more? And he goes, can I have
Speaker 5: to come and watch the game?
Speaker 2: That means yes, that means don't ask any more questions
Speaker 2: about this because we have some packages for you. Right,
Speaker 2: I like that, So what do you what do you
Speaker 2: think we? Uh, you know, Schoolmakers reputation wasn't very solid.
Speaker 4: Well, it just to he had a he didn't have
Speaker 4: a spectacular rookie year and had.
Speaker 3: A couple of moments earlier this season that worked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's I'm just concentrating on this season. How
Speaker 2: you know he's he was starting off a bit of
Speaker 2: a disappointment and all of a sudden, the last three games, well,
Speaker 2: I think I targeted a.
Speaker 4: Lot opportunities knock right go, And he answered, because if
Speaker 4: say you get I don't know how many, Well I
Speaker 4: can tell you how many snaps he had in the game.
Speaker 4: I think, oh no, I didn't bring my play by play,
Speaker 4: but he probably hitch game.
Speaker 2: Do you want last three even?
Speaker 3: Well, he's talking fifty snaps against the Giants, forty three
Speaker 3: against Washington and Houston was forty four. Ferguson got knocked
Speaker 3: out the seventh play of the Houston game.
Speaker 4: Okay, so previously in his snaps per game nineteen twenty eight,
Speaker 4: twenty five, nineteen twenty twenty one, two one, eleven before
Speaker 4: the forty four. So if say you get eleven snaps
Speaker 4: and you screw up on two, well they everybody looks
Speaker 4: at it, right, But if he screwed up on two
Speaker 4: snaps out of.
Speaker 5: Forty four, it's like, oh, maybe you had a good game.
Speaker 3: Well, and maybe it'd fallen into such disfavor that the
Speaker 3: two games prior to Ferguson getting hurt were the two
Speaker 3: games where he was almost inactive on offense with two
Speaker 3: snaps against San Francisco. And uh, well, I had eleven
Speaker 3: snaps against Philadelphia, one snap against San Francisco and he
Speaker 3: said two snaps in another one. Yeah, so well, yeah,
Speaker 3: because Brevin span Ford was playing.
Speaker 4: Well and they were using the second they were using
Speaker 4: that second tight end blocking more than anything else.
Speaker 3: And how big is Brevin span Ford beat seven inches tall,
Speaker 3: not six six or six ' five.
Speaker 2: He's six that's almost like two tall, being six ' nine.
Speaker 2: That one inch. You know, it makes a big difference.
Speaker 2: You don't really find many people that crossed over into
Speaker 2: that category.
Speaker 3: And a big thing over tight ends and being able
Speaker 3: to block is that reach and being able to set
Speaker 3: the edge basically offensively as a blocker, be able to
Speaker 3: those reach blocks. And he's got thirty three inch arms
Speaker 3: to go along with that.
Speaker 2: I gotta say both guys have really stepped up since
Speaker 2: Ferguson went down. Yeah, I think it has a lot
Speaker 2: to do with our success offensively and how we've been
Speaker 2: able to move the ball. It's helped us on a
Speaker 2: couple helped us on a couple of drives. They extended
Speaker 2: the they moved the chains for us and put us
Speaker 2: in some good positions to score some touchdown that right now.
Speaker 3: The one thing on Ferguson is as he has played
Speaker 3: with an athleticism that put him at a.
Speaker 2: Prop It made him, it made him unique. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: these guys are still very solid, solid.
Speaker 3: But you're not gonna get But if.
Speaker 2: You just more than one you catch, you catch me
Speaker 2: defensive back like myself, trying to come up on somebody
Speaker 2: like Ford after he's already got to the steam up.
Speaker 2: That's that's going to be a force to be reckoned.
Speaker 5: With business decisions exactly.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you pointed out that every inch counts.
Speaker 2: On that note.
Speaker 3: That about does it for this edition of Mixed Shots.
Speaker 3: Uh have anything else to add? I think?
Speaker 2: I'm it was very clever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, especially from a short person.
Speaker 3: Right. So on that note, we will pass it on
Speaker 3: to the next show and we will see you again
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