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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Jaguars Reporters podcast, taking Shadwick,

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Speaker 1: John Osier, Brian Sexton, Kyle Stevens. After a many bye weekend,

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Speaker 1: it's onto Steelers Week Week eight the Jaguars in five

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Speaker 1: and two. They've won four straight games in four different stadiums,

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Speaker 1: in seven different time zones in nineteen days. Kai and Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a rest is needed before this game coming up this week.

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Speaker 2: It's a nice little rest and then it's just one

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Speaker 2: game and then it's the bye week. So you've gotten

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Speaker 2: through that really tough gauntlet. Doug Peterson talked about it postgame.

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Speaker 2: Christian Kirk alluded to the fact that this back end

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Speaker 2: of it, of those four games, have been about as

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Speaker 2: good as we've seen of this team, and they still

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Speaker 2: haven't hit their stride yet. So it has to be

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Speaker 2: encouraging for you to see teams finding ways to win.

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Speaker 2: But they still have a lot of things they need

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Speaker 2: to work on, so they should be better even than

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Speaker 2: what we've seen so far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have set themselves up nicely. They can set

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Speaker 3: themselves up really nicely if they beat the Steelers. Even

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Speaker 3: if they don't, they're set up nicely for the second

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Speaker 3: half the season. I've been saying all weekend, this is

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Speaker 3: where you wanted to be if you're a Jags fan

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Speaker 3: for fifteen years through suffering. This is what building toward

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Speaker 3: a playoff push looks like. Winning the way they are

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Speaker 3: and it's all out in front.

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Speaker 4: Of them, right, JP, you mentioned four cities, three stadiums.

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Speaker 5: Oh wait, four stadiums. Yeah, let me get this right.

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Speaker 4: Four stadiums, three cities, two continents, six time zones, thirteen

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Speaker 4: fourteen days between three games, nineteen games for all four

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Speaker 4: I think when you look at it, we're going to

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Speaker 4: look back at this stretch, this challenging stretch, unprecedented a

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Speaker 4: stretch of schedule, and say this is where the growth began.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: Everyone wanted them to pick up this season where they

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Speaker 4: left off last season. But if you really recall last season,

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Speaker 4: they weren't well on people out, they were winning at

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Speaker 4: the end, they had to find a way to win

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Speaker 4: at the end. So now, all of a sudden, I think,

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Speaker 4: as John has pointed out a couple of times, that

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Speaker 4: you have a team that hasn't trailed in the second

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Speaker 4: at this stretch as being the defining stretch of this

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Speaker 4: is where it all kind of gets going.

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Speaker 1: And this is the beginning now coming off this many

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Speaker 1: by and then the Steeler game, and then of course

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Speaker 1: the bye week, the full bye week. There's been some

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Speaker 1: guys on the injury report early in this season and

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Speaker 1: they really haven't had their full arsenal out there, certainly

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side as of late. And if they

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Speaker 1: get those guys back in the next week or two,

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Speaker 1: then we might actually begin to see the offense that

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Speaker 1: we expected early in the season.

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Speaker 4: Well, Walker little Way, what was the eight plays with

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Speaker 4: certainly helped the offense. We've seen Dwance Moot make plays

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Speaker 4: in the two games that he's appeared in, and you

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Speaker 4: could get Devon Hamilton back. I don't know whether he's

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Speaker 4: back this week or but certainly by San Francisco. I

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Speaker 4: think the biggest part is is that Doug had about

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Speaker 4: five days here from the end of the Saints game

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Speaker 4: a couple of days of work and then you have

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Speaker 4: seven more days. One game in twenty three days is

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Speaker 4: a real benefit to this team. It sets them up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two have won these games without Zay and Walker

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 3: I think Zay quietly has become uber important to this offense.

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Speaker 3: The third down stat which Brian knows better than I do,

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Speaker 3: Were talking to Evin Ingram in London and him saying,

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Speaker 3: a great deal in that. So do they become great

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: The only game really where you've been over fifty percent

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Speaker 4: in third downs he was a big part of it

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Speaker 4: against the against the Ravens, right, not the Ravens against

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Speaker 4: the Bills. They were Yeah, they were ten of eighteen

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Speaker 4: Right, So the only time you've really had him on

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Speaker 4: It really is the bugaboo. I mean, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: Back and if they get in back Ky that all

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Speaker 1: they doubled up Ridley last week. He was quiet on

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Speaker 1: Thursday in the super Dome. But that's what this offense

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Speaker 2: It's important to remember that too, because I know everyone's mad,

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Speaker 2: why didn't they throw it to Calvin? And we've talked

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Speaker 2: about this at nausea and when everybody's healthy, there are

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Speaker 2: to be a different player in every single game. And

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Speaker 2: Calvin's had two of those games where he was the

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Speaker 2: throwing to Calvin. It's not always going to be Calvin.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's somebody else, and you know, Christian coming up

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Speaker 2: on offense. It'll be different every single week.

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Speaker 3: You know. And I love JP. I love the voice

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Speaker 3: of the people.

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Speaker 5: I know you do because.

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Speaker 3: Here's was the gist of the inbox for two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Oh they're forcing the ball to Calvin too much. That's

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Speaker 3: what's wrong with the offense. Well, now they win a

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Speaker 3: game on Thursday where Trevor clearly let the offense come

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Speaker 3: to him organically, didn't force the ball to Calvin. You

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Speaker 3: should force the ball to Calvin. JP, Well, you know,

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Speaker 3: I do think within that stream the offense is better.

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Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks talks with all the time. The offense is better.

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Speaker 3: This offense is designed to let the quarterback make his

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Speaker 3: it better now. May take even take Cobbis whin day

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Speaker 3: comes back to fully find the flow of getting to

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be a game. One of these guys is

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Speaker 3: going to get left out of the mix in most

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Speaker 1: Right, And part of the game on Thursday, obviously, the

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Speaker 1: big part of the game was the jury to the

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Speaker 1: the left knee of Trevor Lawrence and get it out

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Speaker 3: My favorite question Brian the other day was leading to

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Speaker 3: the game, what he gonna play? Was gonna play for

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Speaker 3: the game? I must have got twenty five million US?

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Speaker 3: What's wrong with Trevor Lawrence? It was hurt, That's what's wrong.

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Speaker 3: Nobody was hiding it.

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Speaker 4: No, he had a price and he ran for fifty

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Trevor, well they won four straight games.

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Speaker 3: You're five and two.

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Speaker 4: Mix in, mix in the Travis Etn is now the

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Speaker 4: first player in Jaguars's history to have two or more

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Speaker 4: and Etn and Ridley. You're just someone's been left out already.

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Speaker 4: You know, it was Kirk on opening Day, it was

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Speaker 4: Ridley last week. Who cares if you win? And at

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Speaker 4: least in the preseason, that was what all those guys said.

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Speaker 4: They didn't care as long as they won.

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Speaker 2: It feels very homey to me. I feel in the Northeast.

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Speaker 2: Everybody complains about everything, but they'll defend them to the death,

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Speaker 2: because you'll go on Twitter and defend Trevor Lawrence but

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Speaker 2: then secretly be right to John and be mad about

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Speaker 2: you know, we can be mad at him, but you

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Speaker 5: You can't do that.

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Speaker 4: Darklg is only week do that Arnes in movies.

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Speaker 5: We're back in a moment.

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Speaker 6: We'll look ahead to the Jaguars and the Steelers in

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Speaker 6: Week eight. It's Jaguars Reporters. Welcome back to the Jaguars

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Speaker 6: Reporters podcast. JP Shadwick, Kis Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Osier.

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Speaker 6: The Jaguars at five and two headed to Pittsburgh, a

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Speaker 6: place they know well and they've performed well in recent

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Speaker 6: you know what, the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to be.

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Speaker 1: They've always been great defense. They've got a young quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but they are still Brian the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: And well and watching their game against the Rams, they

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Speaker 4: obviously played great defense. However, they ran the ball well, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean you saw Naji Harris who was controlling between

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Speaker 4: So they're going to run the ball and you just

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Speaker 4: better be ready for it. Jaguars appeared to be ready

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Speaker 4: to take on any running game in the league. They're

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Speaker 4: going to send TJ. Watt after your quarterback, right, and

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Speaker 4: he might be the best defensive player in the league

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Speaker 4: right now, you know how they like to play. As

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Speaker 4: you mentioned, the Jaguars have done well in their history

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Speaker 5: We'll see.

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Speaker 4: I think they're a better team than this Pittsburgh team.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that the Pittsburgh Steelers are. They're good.

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Speaker 4: They're four and three, but they don't look Steeler good

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're good. I mean, I agree with Brian, I

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Speaker 3: don't think they're an elite team this year, but I

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Speaker 3: think they're sort of Jaguars light this year, meaning I

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Speaker 3: think I think the Jaguars overall are a better team

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Speaker 3: and will finish with a slightly better record than the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: And that's just trying to get objectively the playoff team last.

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Speaker 5: Year or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But they both sort of play similarly in that the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: the reason they're four and two, I think it is

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Speaker 3: because they had to buy they're good because they sort

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Speaker 3: of believe that if they hang around in a game

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Speaker 3: So they're making big plays a big moments to win games. Well,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of what the Jaguars are. So if you

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Speaker 3: you and it's going to be a four point game

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Speaker 2: I think that's they both have a similarity in the

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Speaker 2: sense that makes it tricky for their opponent because you

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Speaker 2: don't know what team you're going to get when they

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars, has bode well for them so far because

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Speaker 2: it feels like they've kind of surprised some of the

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Speaker 2: thing for me is like sometimes from what I've seen

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Speaker 2: that is embarrassing. So what we get when we go

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Speaker 2: up there will be interesting. I think the environments not

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Speaker 2: sometimes that can take you out of things. They were

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Speaker 2: because that's a that's a tough environment. So I think

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Speaker 2: if they can do something similar on the road in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: that will help them out a lot. And then I

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Speaker 2: don't know, whatever it takes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Steelers have been phenomenally slow starting the stats on

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Speaker 3: Kenny Pikett, how much better he is in the second

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Speaker 3: the ja always have a chance to get up in

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Speaker 3: this game. And but you know, I don't necessarily think

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Speaker 3: that the Steelers are eighteen that you're going to be

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Speaker 4: Well, because they have explosive playmakers, right. I mean we

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Speaker 4: mentioned George Pickens and what a mismatch. He is physically

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Speaker 4: so tall and so long. I don't know whether you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have Tyson Campbell back or not, but whoever's on

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Speaker 4: him is going to have a really long day. And

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Speaker 4: Deontay Johnson looked explosive in La on Sunday and I

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Speaker 4: just mentioned but with Naji Harris, I mean he looked

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Speaker 4: of course on defense TJ.

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Speaker 5: Watts.

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Speaker 4: So they've got the kind of game changers that can

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Speaker 4: flip the game on you fast.

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Speaker 5: I know you all like history, Kydie like history.

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Speaker 1: I do know that.

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Speaker 5: I mean we haven't talked about fact, hey, but how

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Speaker 5: about this fun fact.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety nine, the Jaguars have played nine games,

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Speaker 1: including playoff games, in Pittsburgh. They've won seven of them.

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Speaker 1: Seven of the last nine trips to Pittsburgh for the

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Speaker 1: Jags overall have been wins, including, of course, the playoff game,

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Speaker 1: the divisional playoff after the seventeen season, the regular season game.

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Speaker 1: The last time the Steelers won in Pittsburgh against the

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Speaker 1: Jags twenty eleven, yep, and the other time was two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one.

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Speaker 4: So Elvis Joseph fumbled on the one yard line that

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Speaker 4: the Jaguars would have won that one too, you go.

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Speaker 5: So it's been a place that the Jaguars have had success.

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Speaker 1: That's a long time ago ninety nine, but hey, whatever,

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Speaker 1: whatever it takes.

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Speaker 4: Twenty four years, come on.

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Speaker 5: Been a long time since twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: By the way, let's make some new history this week,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars and the Steelers coming up. Ky Stevens, Brian Sexton,

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Speaker 1: John Ozer, I'm JP Shadrick, and this this Jaguars Reporters