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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's Brady Quinn Fox College Football analyst and part of

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Speaker 2: the big noon kickoff. They will be in Columbus and

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Speaker 2: it'll be Texas against Ohio State. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: coming up in a moment. Good to see you again.

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Speaker 2: With yesterday's news happening in the NFL, did that change

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Speaker 2: your opinion on which who is the team to beat.

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Speaker 3: A little bit?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think the way I look at the

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Speaker 4: NFC is this probably three or four teams that I

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Speaker 4: think we legitimately are looking at thinking that they can

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Speaker 4: win a Super Bowl, Philly being at the top of

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Speaker 4: the list, but Green Bay was probably one of those teams,

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Speaker 4: and now it makes them, without a doubt, a contender,

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Speaker 4: maybe even the biggest contender to the Philadelphia Eagles in

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Speaker 4: my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Help me understand, Let's start with Dallas. You're shaking your

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Speaker 2: head already.

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Speaker 3: Because Dan, none of it makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I know, like a guy you drafted who has been

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Speaker 4: a generational talent, has done every thing on the field

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Speaker 4: that you'd hope he would be.

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Speaker 3: How do you make any sense of letting him walk?

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that Kenny Clark won't help the

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Speaker 4: run defense, or they might not get a couple of

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Speaker 4: good first round picks, but probably because they're from Green Bay,

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Speaker 4: probably in the you know, second half, somewhere in the twenties.

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Speaker 4: It's not like you're getting a top ten pick. And

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Speaker 4: so I just I really don't see in the short

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Speaker 4: term how this is going to help them the way

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Speaker 4: it would if Michael Parsons was on the field for them,

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Speaker 4: and even the long term, like let's just say that,

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Speaker 4: you know, they're in a rebuilding phase, not that they

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Speaker 4: necessarily are, but in no way, shape or form does

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Speaker 4: this help Dallas in the short term or long term.

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Speaker 4: And if I'm a veteran in that locker room in

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Speaker 4: Dallas and I keep hearing, you know, the phrase last year,

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Speaker 4: we're all in, and people have kind of questioned some

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Speaker 4: of that throughout the throughout the years.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm really questioning it, you know.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm really wondering, like what exactly is going on

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Speaker 4: in Dallas and how does this happen? Because it's not

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Speaker 4: like Jerry Jones doesn't have the money or the cap

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Speaker 4: space to do that sort of deal. It was a

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Speaker 4: good deal, but it wasn't astronomical, something that really blew

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Speaker 4: things out of the water. In regards to the Dallas

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Speaker 4: Cowboys being unable to sign him to that deal, they

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Speaker 4: were able to make it work with Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: They've been able to make it work Ceedee Lamb and

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Speaker 3: other players.

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Speaker 4: This wasn't the sort of deal that would completely handicap

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Speaker 4: them moving forward to their salary caps.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't understand the lack of leverage there that

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Speaker 2: Jerry could have created. You're a businessman, create leverage and

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Speaker 2: maybe prior to the draft you could have said he he's available,

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Speaker 2: or you could have said in the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: he's available. Let's get into a bidding war here. Because

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Speaker 2: to first round two late first round picks and Kenny Clark,

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Speaker 2: the fact that Seattle gave up three first round picks

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Speaker 2: for Jamal Adams, you know, Khalil Mack when he went

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Speaker 2: to the Bears. The Raiders got a better deal, Like,

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Speaker 2: it just doesn't make sense with what you got in return.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, it was Green Bay the only

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Speaker 4: team that wanted to make a Parson services. That's the

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Speaker 4: other odd thing. It's like, was there not more teams inquiring?

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Speaker 4: Was it Green Bay that was your best offer. It's

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Speaker 4: just shocking. I mean, I think if you look at

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Speaker 4: it statistically speaking, Micah Parsons is on a run that's

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Speaker 4: again like in the likes of someone like LT and

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Speaker 4: the likes of some of the greatest that have ever

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Speaker 3: And so you have to.

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Speaker 4: Think that every single team that is in need of

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Speaker 4: an edge rusher had reached out and would be willing

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Speaker 4: to mortgage at least the next few years of the

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Speaker 4: first round of the draft to have a player like

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Speaker 4: that and sign him to a long term deal, especially

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Speaker 4: when he's still in his prime. So look, I don't

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Speaker 4: know if there's more to the story behind the scenes,

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Speaker 4: whether that's from Micah's side or Jerry Jones side. It

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Speaker 4: feels like that because none of this makes any sense,

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Speaker 4: and it definitely doesn't from the Dallas Cowboys standpoint, and

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Speaker 4: I feel bad for their fan base because I feel

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Speaker 4: like they're being sold a bill of goods and it's

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Speaker 4: almost as if you can hear Jerry Jones up there

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Speaker 4: trying to talk everyone into what makes sense for this,

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Speaker 4: and it it sounds like one of those things where

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Speaker 4: you you know, have your grandparent. They're getting to a

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Speaker 4: point where you're like, okay, okay, Grandma, I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: I necessarily believe what you're saying right now, but I'm

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Speaker 4: going to give you a hug and a kiss, and

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep supporting you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who's running the NFL Players Associate Players

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Speaker 2: Association anymore, but why did they allow Jerry Jones to

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Speaker 2: negotiate in parentheses a contract with Michael Parsons without his

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Speaker 2: agent there.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the sheer fact that you don't know who

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Speaker 4: to how that probably happens. I mean that the NFLPA

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Speaker 4: obviously has had its issues.

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Speaker 3: Let's just put it that way.

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Speaker 4: I mean, as far as how things have, how business

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Speaker 4: is being done, or maybe I should say how some

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Speaker 4: of the meetings were taking place, especially with some of

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Speaker 4: the venues they were taking place at. I know Fritzy

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Speaker 4: frequents those from time to time, but I'll go ahead

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Speaker 4: and leave that out of it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this whole entire saga, whatever you want to

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Speaker 4: how you want to describe it is quite possibly. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you're can only describe it as it being something that

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Speaker 4: happens with Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys. I don't

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Speaker 4: know any other team that does business like this other

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Speaker 4: this point in time in his career, owning the team

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Speaker 4: and being the general manager.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Brady Quinn, Fox College football Analyst, Big noon kickoff,

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Speaker 2: it'll be there at the Shoe in Columbus and it'll

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Speaker 2: be number one Texas, number three Ohio State. What advice

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Speaker 2: would you give arch Manning.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's a good question.

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Speaker 4: I think the first thing I would say, I mean,

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Speaker 4: he started some games before, but this one's going to

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Speaker 4: feel different, in part because he's got some new pieces

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Speaker 4: up in front of him, but it's probably just weathering

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Speaker 4: the storm. I mean, there's gonna be that initial adrenaline rush,

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Speaker 4: going back to last year, even when he first got

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Speaker 4: in Verus, Colorado State. You know, you feel that adrenaline

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Speaker 4: But there's going to be a different feeling in this

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Speaker 4: one because of the atmosphere. I mean, Bucket Nation is

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Speaker 4: to go up against there's one hundred thousand plus in

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Speaker 4: about to me whethering the storm early. You know, he's

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Speaker 4: be a mistakes made, and it's kind of having that

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Speaker 4: short term memory, taking a deep breath, weathering those first

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Speaker 4: settling in. And that's sometimes easier said than done. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: it takes you a half of football. Sometimes it takes

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Speaker 4: you know, a couple of positive plays or that first

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Speaker 4: big throw, that first completion. It's almost like you know,

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Speaker 2: Social media is going to have a field day this

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Speaker 2: after this game, one way or another, it's either Arch

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Speaker 2: is gonna win the Heisman, or arch is not gonna

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Speaker 2: win the Heisman, or Texas is not a great team,

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Speaker 2: or Texas looks dominating Ohio States overrated, or they're not

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Speaker 2: that quick reaction referendum coming up on Monday. What do

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Speaker 2: you think the headline is going to be after this game?

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Speaker 4: Well, I see it being more of a tight, low

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be more of a defensive battle. Tipically,

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Speaker 4: the defense are ays ahead of the offense anyway this

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Speaker 4: time of year. It's impart the quarterbacks in both these

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Speaker 4: to forget like that group takes a while to gel

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Speaker 4: and in particular for Texas, they got a bunch of

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Speaker 4: But you get in that environment again with the crowd noise,

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Speaker 4: more of a low, more defensive battle, and I think

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Speaker 4: we're going to come away with it looking at both

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Speaker 4: these two teams as two of the top teams in

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Speaker 4: see how they progress and what they're going to look

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Speaker 4: like at the end of the season, because they may

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Speaker 4: very well be squaring it off for a national championship.

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Speaker 3: But it's all said done.

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Speaker 2: What is it like when you're out there on the road.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you're at the Big House. Let's say there's

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Speaker 2: like when you first go on the field and you

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Speaker 2: know everybody in the building hate you. It's awesome? It

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: It's the best thing in the world.

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Speaker 4: Like, there is no greater feeling than walking in as

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Speaker 4: when you create those big plays, when you when you

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Speaker 4: throw a touchdown pass. But I'll never forget going to

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Speaker 4: don't even want to give the crowd the opportunity to

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Speaker 4: plus in the big house, quiet, nothing better than that, Like,

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Speaker 4: that's one of the most powerful things you can do

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Speaker 4: as a quarterback. When you're a part of a team

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Speaker 3: It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Brady is also part of a Two Pros and a

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Speaker 2: Cup of Joe, the radio program that precedes hours on

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Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of our affiliates. I was

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Speaker 2: listening the other day and you were talking about rookie

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Speaker 2: they're already turned. And you know, you were talking about

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Speaker 4: We do a lot of cheerity work with o Higot

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Speaker 4: He should, as he probably should now now mark Ingram

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Speaker 2: yours truly and the back room guys spent a lot

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Speaker 2: of time first hour talking about the trade. I wonder

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Speaker 2: if this is going to be Hey, do you know

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Speaker 2: who the Milwaukee Bucks got for Kareem abdul Jabbar when

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Speaker 2: they traded him away? Or Wilt Chamberlain, you know one

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Speaker 2: of those where you remember who was that guy that

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Speaker 2: they got from Green Bay? Oh, yeah, they got a

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Speaker 2: couple of draft picks. Because sometimes, you know, we move

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Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson was one of those guys that they got

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Speaker 2: in return. The fact that Jamal Adams can command three

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Speaker 2: picks and Kenny Clark, and it feels like the attention,

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Speaker 2: the spotlight is on the Cowboys like it always is.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the packers, they're not going to change

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Speaker 2: But you just went from being a plus two thousand

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Speaker 2: you were plus eleven hundred to win the NFC now

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Speaker 2: plus six hundred. You got quarterbacks in that division. I

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Speaker 2: mean that is a very very competitive division that is

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Speaker 2: rivaling what you have in the AFC West. We don't

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Speaker 2: know what we have in Caleb Williams or JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff has proven to be a high end quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love has had his moments. He was banged up

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Speaker 2: last year, but is a This was a dangerous team.

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Speaker 2: Now you've got a team that is going to be

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Speaker 2: one of the on the short list of Super Bowl favorites.

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Speaker 2: It is a Meet Friday in Kseher wondering what's on

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Speaker 2: the menu. Dylan is doing double duty here by sitting

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Speaker 2: in Seaton's chair. He has to come up with a

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Speaker 2: poll question as well. We have smoke brisket. It's been

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Speaker 2: smoking for over twelve hours. We also have caprisee salad,

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Speaker 2: coleslaw potato salad. Who has it better than we do?

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Speaker 2: No body cowboys don't have it better than we do.

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Speaker 2: Todd Archer, ESPN NFL Nation reporter covering the Cowboys since

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Speaker 2: two thousand and three. Well, I didn't think we would

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Speaker 2: get here, but we got here. How did we get here? Todd?

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Speaker 7: You know Jerry Jones has a line that he likes

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Speaker 7: to use where he says, don't let your.

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Speaker 3: Money get mad.

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Speaker 7: I think his money got mad in this situation when

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Speaker 7: he wasn't able to work out the contract with directly

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Speaker 7: with Micah Parsons. There were no negotiations after that, no

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Speaker 7: offers sent from the team to the agent, nothing from

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Speaker 7: the agent back to the team, and they Mike Aside

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Speaker 7: made one last push at the start of the week

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Speaker 7: or the end of last week to say, hey, can

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Speaker 7: we get going on this, Let's do a deal, and

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Speaker 7: Jerry flat out told him, Note, you're playing on the

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Speaker 7: fift year option and then we'll see what happens after

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Speaker 7: the season.

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Speaker 3: Well franchise tag.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that kind of set all the balls in motion

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Speaker 7: towards this trade with Green Bay. A number of suitors

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Speaker 7: that we were told were involved. The Cowboys were kind

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Speaker 7: of limited to who they could be because that's he

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Speaker 7: needed Kaproom, that he needed a defensive player they could

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Speaker 7: get in return. And it came together pretty quickly once

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Speaker 7: the Packers were able to come to the agreement with

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Speaker 7: Parsons on the long term contract.

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Speaker 2: But Tom, let's go back to March. If you know

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Speaker 2: you're not going to sign him, at least create some

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Speaker 2: leverage of bidding war going into the draft. That's what

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Speaker 2: I don't understand. If he doesn't, then maybe I understand

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Speaker 2: the rationale. But still, you traded away, you know, one

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Speaker 2: of the five best defensive players in the game. You know,

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Speaker 2: trajectory for the Hall of Fame. You get Kenny Clark,

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Speaker 2: who's over thirty, and you get too late first round picks.

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Speaker 2: More than likely, I just don't understand how Jerry can

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Speaker 2: with a straight face the team is better now today

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Speaker 2: than it was yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Well, they're better for the playoffs. He didn't say when

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Speaker 7: they were going to make the playoffs. I guess right

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Speaker 7: if it would be this year or not. But I

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Speaker 7: asked Harry that question, if you knew in the beginning

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Speaker 7: of April that you had this pushback on the agreement

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Speaker 7: that you and Micah had from the agent, why didn't

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Speaker 7: you make the deal before the draft when you had

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Speaker 7: the opportunity to help your team more theoretically in twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty five by getting a player in multiple draft picks

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Speaker 7: as well. So and his answer was convoluted in Jerry

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Speaker 7: like and I really don't know what it was. But

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Speaker 7: Stephen Jones said, well, the draft is in April two.

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Speaker 7: This was the beginning of the month and the end

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Speaker 7: of the month. You're at at least three weeks where

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Speaker 7: you could have worked that out and got into a deal.

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Speaker 7: They chose not to do it. They went this route

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Speaker 7: and in their mind, this is the best that they

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Speaker 7: could do right now. And they knew that if Micah

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Speaker 7: Parsons wasn't going to play Week one against Philadelphia, that

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Speaker 7: would have been a situation that would have been onerous

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Speaker 7: for the entire year, and they didn't want to put

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Speaker 7: Brian Schottenheimer in part in that situation.

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Speaker 2: But we've talked about this before. If the Cowboys have

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Speaker 2: a traditional general manager who has power, who has teeth,

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Speaker 2: do we get to this point in this you know

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Speaker 2: situation where you're parting with Micah Persons.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think in that situation, the owner says, hey, man,

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Speaker 7: too bad, work it out. You know, that's what the

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Speaker 7: owner would say, because you you can't convince an owner

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Speaker 7: who's not the general manager that that team would be

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Speaker 7: better without Michaeh Parsons that particular season. So that's where

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Speaker 7: the the everybody who says Jerry needs the fire the GM, well,

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Speaker 7: this is the case where the GM didn't have an

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Speaker 7: owner telling them what to do either.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder the role that Stephen Jones played in this,

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Speaker 2: because Jerry loves to be a buddy to the players.

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Speaker 2: Is Stephen are Steven's fingerprints on this? That he might

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Speaker 2: have been the one that, you know, convinced Jerry to

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Speaker 2: trade away mikeah Persons.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't cast the blame on Stephen Jones Jerry told

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Speaker 7: us that this was a unanimous decision from everybody in

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Speaker 7: the organization that they talked to, including some players. Uh,

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Speaker 7: players are on the leadership council when.

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Speaker 8: We met yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Now I get it.

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Speaker 7: It's easy to say, of course, everybody's going to tell Jerry, yeah,

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Speaker 7: let's go ahead and do this if that's what Jerry

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Speaker 7: wanted to do.

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Speaker 9: Wait.

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Speaker 2: Wait, there were players on the Cowboys who co signed

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Speaker 2: on this to get to move on from Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 7: That is what Jerry told us yesterday that there are

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Speaker 7: a player they have a leadership council. Players were contact

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Speaker 7: and they were they understood it as well. Whether they

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Speaker 7: were okay with it maybe a distinction.

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Speaker 3: Without difference, but they were.

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Speaker 7: They were understanding why the Cowboys had to make the move.

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Speaker 7: And look, there have been teammates in Mike has past

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Speaker 7: and even probably some of the present that have been annoyed.

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Speaker 3: Might be the.

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Speaker 7: Best word by some of the things that he's done,

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Speaker 7: and they all might be little things to degree. Not

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Speaker 7: putting Dak Prescott in is one of the top quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: in the NFL. On your podcast, not working the hardest

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Speaker 7: on the practice field, showing up to the game the

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Speaker 7: other night eating nachos, lying down on the medical table.

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Speaker 7: All that stuff might be little stuff, but when you

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Speaker 7: start adding all that stuff together, I think teammates again.

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Speaker 7: For sure, some former guys were just annoyed at times

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Speaker 7: by Mike Great, but they always understood his production on

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Speaker 7: the field is what mattered most.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Todd, I know you're busy. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Todd Archer ESPN NFL Nation reporter covering the Cowboys since

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Speaker 2: two thousand and three. Yeah, you're trying to figure this

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Speaker 2: out where you go? Okay, this makes a lot of sense. Sure,

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Speaker 2: we're a better team today. It goes back to when

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Speaker 2: Jerry said they were all in like all in one,

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Speaker 2: like all in a pile of bleep? What are you

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Speaker 2: all in on?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Pauline, I saw your reaction when Todd Archer said

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Speaker 10: that play on the whatever competition committee that they have

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Speaker 10: agreed with this trade and Jerry Jones said that to

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Speaker 10: the media. Do you believe that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna take Todd at his word, but

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine Dak Prescott or c d Lamb if

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Speaker 2: they're part of the leadership committee. Hey, hell yeah, get

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Speaker 2: rid of him. Let's get worse, I get I don't

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Speaker 2: understand it. Look, there are personalities that you have to

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Speaker 2: put up with, and you balance that by production and personality.

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Speaker 2: It's like Draymond Green. I would have moved on from

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Speaker 2: Draymond Green. I don't want to deal with that personality anymore.

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Speaker 2: When he was great. Okay, I can deal with the personality.

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Speaker 2: Did Micah Parsons get to the point? And I know

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Speaker 2: he wasn't universally loved inside that building.

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Speaker 3: He was not.

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Speaker 2: And yes he has a big mouth. They know all

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Speaker 2: of these things. Hey, if you know all of these

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Speaker 2: things and how much is it going to cost you,

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Speaker 2: then trade him. Trade him in March or April, not now.

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Speaker 2: Rob Dimofsky, he's been covering the Packers since nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: ESPN NFL Nation Reporter, What was your reaction to this trade,

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Speaker 2: Dana as.

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Speaker 11: The week began.

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Speaker 12: Earlier this week, you sort of had an inkling that

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Speaker 12: this might be a real possibility. In fact, on the

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Speaker 12: day after the cuts, I asked a couple players in

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Speaker 12: the locker room about it, and one of those guys

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Speaker 12: being All Pro safety Xavier McKinney, who just so happens to.

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Speaker 11: Have the same agent as Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 12: It was not a coincidence that I went up to him,

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Speaker 12: but Xavier first he looked at me and said, I'm

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Speaker 12: not talking about that, and I'm like, but you know him, right?

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Speaker 12: He goes, I know him. He's a great dude. And

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Speaker 12: that's about all I can say right now, and he

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Speaker 12: smiled at me. I mean, you know, again, at that point,

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Speaker 12: we weren't one hundred percent sure that the Packers weren't involved,

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Speaker 12: or that the Cowboys were even listening. We know now

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Speaker 12: that they have been listening for a little while. And

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Speaker 12: I can tell you this dan from a Packers standpoint.

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Speaker 12: This all started a week or so ago, maybe a

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Speaker 12: little longer, and Brian Kudakuza, general manager, this is what

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Speaker 12: I was told, walked into Matt Lafleur's office and asked

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Speaker 12: his coach, would you want Micah Parsons? And Lafleur goes, well,

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Speaker 12: of course, and then it took off from there.

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Speaker 2: How does this not work out for the Packers?

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Speaker 12: You know, if obviously at Parsons gets hurt, you know,

658
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Speaker 12: it's it's a disaster, right because you've paid them all

659
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Speaker 12: this money.

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Speaker 11: You don't have your draft picks, you.

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Speaker 12: Know, as long as Micah Parsons is the Micah Parsons

662
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Speaker 12: that we've seen for the last four years. I mean,

663
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Speaker 12: this is a team dan that has not had a player,

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Speaker 12: a single player with double digit sacks in a season

665
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Speaker 12: since the year before Michah Parsons came into the NFL.

666
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Speaker 12: Their last double digit sack guy was Zadarius Smith, and

667
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Speaker 12: I believe it was twenty twenty. You know, Rashan Gary

668
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Speaker 12: is a former first round pick, a good pass rusher

669
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Speaker 12: that they then gave a second contract too, but quite frankly,

670
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Speaker 12: has not been as good as they would have hoped.

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Speaker 12: I'm sure they think the addition of Michael Parsons not

672
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Speaker 12: only gives Michael gives them Michael Parsons, but it also

673
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Speaker 12: takes some of the double teams and the attention away

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Speaker 12: from Rashaan Gary. I do think, you know, Todd mentioned

675
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Speaker 12: some of the Todd Archer mentioned some of the things

676
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Speaker 12: that go with Michaeh Parsons. I did talk to somebody

677
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Speaker 12: this morning in the league who thought, you know what,

678
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Speaker 12: maybe there is some of that, but this is for

679
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Speaker 12: this being Green Bay is the perfect place for them,

680
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 12: Like it's all about football here.

681
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Speaker 11: Yes, he's got a little bit of an entourage, but

682
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Speaker 11: so does everybody now.

683
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Speaker 12: And that the Packers infrastructure, you know, their their player development,

684
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Speaker 12: player engagement, security guys. They have the infrastructure to make

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Speaker 12: this work. And you know, I don't think the Packers

686
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Speaker 12: would have done it if they didn't feel like that

687
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Speaker 12: was a big concern.

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Speaker 2: And this this has been kind of Unpacker. Like you

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Speaker 2: take a wide receiver in the first round, Well, you

690
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Speaker 2: take a big swing and you go Michaeh Parsons and

691
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Speaker 2: you know it. Have the Packers have they changed their philosophy?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's it's a great question, and I think the

693
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Speaker 12: answer is yes. And I think it goes back to

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Speaker 12: a couple of things. One on January sixteenth, that was

695
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Speaker 12: four days after the Packers lost to the Eagles in

696
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Speaker 12: the playoffs, Brian Goudikunz, the general manager, said in front

697
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Speaker 12: of us at the podium, it's time we start competing

698
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Speaker 12: for championships.

699
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Speaker 11: And then he does what you said, drafts, Matthew Golden.

700
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Speaker 12: The last time they drafted a first round receiver here

701
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Speaker 12: was twenty one years ago. And then I think there's

702
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Speaker 12: another factor at play here, and that's the change in presidents.

703
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Speaker 12: You know, the Packers don't have an owner, they have

704
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Speaker 12: a team president. And that team president now is ED

705
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Speaker 12: Policy because the former president, Mark Murphy, reached the organization's

706
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Speaker 12: mandatory retirement age of seventy And for those people who

707
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Speaker 12: don't know ED Policy but think they know that name

708
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 12: sounds familiar, it's Carman. Policy's son. Carmon ran the forty

709
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Speaker 12: nine Ers for a long time, made a lot of

710
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Speaker 12: bold moves out there, you know, moved on from Bill Wallash,

711
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Speaker 12: moved on from Joe Montana. And when we met with

712
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Speaker 12: ED Policy in the earlier the summer for the first time,

713
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Speaker 12: we talked about how, you know, he watched his dad

714
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Speaker 12: make these bold moves that almost always, not always, but

715
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Speaker 12: almost always turned out for the better at the back

716
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Speaker 12: end of it.

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Speaker 11: And I don't know if that policy is necessarily, you know.

718
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Speaker 12: Encouraging them to be more aggressive or those guys just

719
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Speaker 12: feel like they can be more aggressive with this type

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Speaker 12: of leadership.

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Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, I know you're busy. Thanks

722
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Speaker 2: for joining us as always, Rob.

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Speaker 11: You got it. Damn let me seeing you.

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Speaker 2: Rob Demomski, he's been covering the Packers since nineteen ninety seven. Yeah,

725
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Speaker 2: I was told that yesterday about Carmen Policy's son, because

726
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Speaker 2: Carmen Policy ran the forty nine ers and they made

727
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Speaker 2: big swings. They made trades. They weren't afraid, you know,

728
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Speaker 2: you're bringing in Steve Young. They weren't afraid to let

729
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Speaker 2: Joe Montana go or Bill Walsh go and you gotta

730
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Speaker 2: have That's where it goes back to being indecisive. Packers

731
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Speaker 2: were not we're taking a wide receiver first round. We're

732
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Speaker 2: gonna make a big swing for Micah Parsons, whereas the

733
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Speaker 2: Cowboys have been indecisive. You know, they were indecisive with

734
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Speaker 2: Dak leading up to that, you know, first Sunday in

735
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Speaker 2: the NFL season, where hey, we agreed to this contract.

736
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Speaker 2: They were indecisive about Michael Parsons unless they you can

737
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Speaker 2: say they were decisive. They decided that back in March

738
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Speaker 2: that they weren't going to sign him. That was the

739
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Speaker 2: final offer. Okay, But then carry it on through and

740
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 2: if you're the Cowboys, why stop here? Why not see

741
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: if somebody wants ceedee lamb, why not say to the Rams, hey,

742
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: would you like Dak Prescott? Can we have Matthew Stafford?

743
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Speaker 2: And you're going to get Matthew Stafford for one year.

744
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just throwing out stuff. You're not beating

745
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Speaker 2: the Eagles. How are you going to beat the Eagles? Well,

746
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: stockpiled draft picks, just like you did with the Herschel

747
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: Walker deal. If you're all in on, we're not going

748
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: to pay, We're going to get draft picks. You're either

749
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Speaker 2: in or out. And that would be the only thing

750
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Speaker 2: I would say. If you're going to do something, then

751
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Speaker 2: I would say keep doing something. But they won't because

752
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: Jerry still needs shiny objects there. There have to be

753
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Speaker 2: guys you want to come out and see Ceedee Lamb,

754
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott digs. Okay, but I mean, at what point

755
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: do you say? And then you got a rookie coach like,

756
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: oh my god. But is Edwarder, the great reporter who's

757
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: been there for I don't know how long Ed's been

758
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: there for thirty years. You just sent a tweet you

759
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: do not trade Micah Parsons not a week before the

760
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Speaker 2: season opener, and never to the Packers. Yep, he's right,

761
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: but I know that they were trying. Okay, the leverage

762
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Speaker 2: that I was told this, I'm allowed to say this.

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Speaker 2: I had two conversations off the record yesterday and which

764
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Speaker 2: doesn't help me in being a radio host, but it

765
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Speaker 2: did kind of help me understand sort of what was

766
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Speaker 2: going on. But yet they were going to Their leverage

767
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: was we're going to make you pay play on that

768
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: fifth year option, and then we're going to franchise you.

769
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Speaker 2: And they were just trying to get him to agree

770
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Speaker 2: to the initial agreement because Jerry was all about loyalty.

771
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: We shook on this and we were going to pay him,

772
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: you know, forty point five million dollars a season or

773
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Speaker 2: whatever it was. And Michael Parson said, I don't have

774
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Speaker 2: my agent here. I'm not agreeing to anything. There's no

775
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Speaker 2: contract here. And then all of a sudden you realize, michah,

776
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: don't negotiate. Look at what these contracts are going to

777
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: be for guys at your position. You're going to be

778
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 2: able to get forty five million dollars. It turns out

779
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: he gets forty seven. That's how this thing's happened. I

780
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: think we got an agreement sort of, let me bring

781
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Speaker 2: in my agent, and then all of a sudden, the

782
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: agent's probably like, no, no, don't do this. This is

783
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: what we're going to make trust me on this, and

784
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: then Jerry probably never forgave Michael Parson for you know,

785
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: renegging on you know their agreement, because I bought the

786
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Speaker 2: Cowboys with a handshake agreement. All right, Times have changed.

787
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Speaker 2: The Eagles Cowboys bedding line opening night next Thursday, seven

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Speaker 2: and a half. Prior to the Micah Parsons deal, it

793
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Speaker 2: was seven and a half. I guess the bookies, the

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Speaker 2: oddsmakers didn't think he was going to play, or if

795
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Speaker 2: he did, how much he would play and would even

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Speaker 2: He is Vince Young, former Texas quarterback and won a

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Speaker 2: national championship back in five I've beating USC Heisman Trophy

801
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802
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Speaker 2: Go to the stampedeut dot com to subscribe. There he

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Speaker 2: is Vince Young joining us on the program. Can you

806
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Speaker 2: relate to the pressure that arch Manning is gonna face

807
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Speaker 2: coming up this season?

808
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Speaker 13: Yes, a lot of it, but he's ready for it.

809
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Speaker 8: He's ready for it. He's definitely ready for it.

810
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you see in him so far? Because

811
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Speaker 2: it's been a small sample size that leads you to

812
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Speaker 2: believe he's ready for this.

813
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Speaker 13: Well, just being around him, the way he carriesself. He

814
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Speaker 13: has that I respect you kind of attitude. Character like

815
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Speaker 13: it's about my teammates. He has fun, he's goofy, silly.

816
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Speaker 13: He even challenged me one day. I was throwing the

817
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Speaker 13: ball to my son on the football field and he

818
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 13: was like, v why do you still got it?

819
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Speaker 3: It's like, what good one?

820
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Speaker 2: Good one?

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Speaker 8: So that type of things right there, just to show

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Speaker 8: me what type of person he is.

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Speaker 13: And you know a lot of people don't understand when

824
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Speaker 13: you have two uncles and a dad as in your

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Speaker 13: family that went through it all and you was a

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Speaker 13: kid just sitting behind the scenes watching it and learning it,

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Speaker 13: even getting small words from your uncle and dad. You

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Speaker 13: know that resonates for you as you get older. As

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Speaker 13: a kid, so you can see it in him and

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Speaker 13: I can feel it too when he talks and how

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Speaker 13: you carry himself.

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Speaker 2: How successful were you against Eli and Peyton?

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Speaker 13: Pretty pretty successful? I mean me and Peyton went at

834
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Speaker 13: it because we had to play him twice twice a year,

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Speaker 13: and yeah, I think I'm undefeated against Eli. I got

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Speaker 13: Eli a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, But when you see Peyton, do you see

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Speaker 2: Arch more like Eli or Peyton or neither neither?

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Speaker 13: You know, I feel like he has the traits. I

840
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Speaker 13: think he has that big head like his uncle, but.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't run like his uncles.

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Speaker 13: He don't run like his uncle, And I feel like

843
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 13: he has his own swag, it has his own character.

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Speaker 13: Especially with this generation. You can tell with this generation,

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Speaker 13: these guys, you know, they have a little bit more

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Speaker 13: fun with their teammates, and which is a good thing

847
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Speaker 13: because of the fact, like, in order to win on

848
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Speaker 13: the level that he's on at Texas, you got to

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Speaker 13: have a little bit more chemistry and more character with

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Speaker 13: your guys. And you can see that with the whole

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Speaker 13: entire Texas team.

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Speaker 2: If you ran a forty against Arch, who's winning?

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Speaker 8: He got me right now?

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Speaker 13: He does unless he give me a week or two

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Speaker 13: to warm up, and it takes that long for me

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Speaker 13: to warm up right now.

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Speaker 2: But you could run a forty in four to six.

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Speaker 13: I can get it by into four to six and

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Speaker 13: not just coming out the stands or something like that. No,

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Speaker 13: I won't get it if they give me like the hours.

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Speaker 9: In the back.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, give me a hot tub and some cold tub

863
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Speaker 13: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Then Yeah, what highlight comes to mind when you think

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Speaker 2: of your career looking back? What's what's the one highlight

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Speaker 2: you want fans to remember?

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Speaker 8: Oh? Man, my favorite is I graduated. You know.

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Speaker 2: Oh cool.

869
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Speaker 13: A lot of people didn't in my neighborhoods and my

870
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 13: peers and the doughters didn't think that I was going

871
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 13: to finish uh with that piece of paper. So that's

872
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 13: one of my major highlights, uh for my entire family

873
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 13: because I was the first to graduate, and then I

874
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 13: set the tone for my kids as well to go

875
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 13: and get your degree as well.

876
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm talking to Vince Young, former Texas quarterback won a

877
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: national championship in five And it's called The Stampede, a

878
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: podcast on the Texas Longhorn. So it's a weekly show

879
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: hosted by Vince with Mac Brown and called the stamped

880
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: Heed on stampedeut dot com to subscribe take me in

881
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: the huddle National title game USC and Mac Brown sends

882
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: in the play, what is the play when you run

883
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: for the touchdown?

884
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 13: The play is menu too, So it's something we ran

885
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 13: just about it all the time. It was one of

886
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 13: our top plays that we ran that I felt like

887
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 13: a lot of people couldn't stop it. We was very

888
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 13: successful in it percentage wise, and before we left Austin,

889
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 13: coaching coach Brown and coach Greg Davis office and coordinator

890
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 13: at the.

891
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 8: Time was if the game was on the line, what play?

892
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 13: What play would you call? And me being where I

893
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 13: am is quarterback sneak. You know, I walked the ball

894
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 13: in my hands and you know, coaches us this is

895
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 13: why coaches, coach and players play.

896
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 8: They was like, while what we just call a pass

897
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 8: play and.

898
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 13: It gives you both options and show enough. It happened

899
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 13: just how we talked about it before we left Austen.

900
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: It felt like they had a spy, but the spy

901
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 2: wasn't fast enough to well.

902
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 13: First of all, you know, they ran that blitz a

903
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 13: couple of times, that strong, strong blitz a couple of times,

904
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 13: and all our guys did was stay at home, did

905
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 13: what they were supposed to do. And then Selvin Young

906
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 13: did what he's supposed to do. If there's nobody there,

907
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 13: run your route, and he ran his route to the

908
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 13: point that he got Rutger to focus on him just

909
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 13: enough for me to take off with the ball. So,

910
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 13: you know, a lot of people give me a lot

911
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 13: of credit for that play, but I give a lot

912
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 13: of credit to my old line and so Man Young

913
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 13: for doing everybody doing their job. And you know, I

914
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 13: can find that that spy guy for me.

915
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: Best player you played against.

916
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 13: That's player, and just in college or pros, just period period.

917
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 13: Oh man, it's a couple of names out there, Dad Reed,

918
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 13: Uh yeah, A j Hawk at Ohio State game that was,

919
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 13: oh my butt the whole time. Troup Polamala, unbelievable player,

920
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 13: Big Harrison Pittsburgh still lives, d Lion.

921
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a long list.

922
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: James is he crazy?

923
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Speaker 9: Yeah?

924
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 8: He dunky.

925
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 13: I don't know if if I remember that he he

926
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 13: slapped my butt in that game.

927
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: Did you say anything?

928
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: I was pretty pissed.

929
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 8: I didn't say nothing to him.

930
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 13: I was pretty pissed at the referees for allowing it

931
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 13: to happen.

932
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: It looked like WWE exactly.

933
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 13: So I was like, man, I need to get my

934
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 13: weight up, I need to small potatoes. He just made

935
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 13: that look so easy.

936
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: Did you ever think about asking for the heisman when

937
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: Bush had it taken away?

938
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 8: No, they tried to give it to me.

939
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 13: Uh, but you know, I didn't want to take it

940
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 13: because of the fact that he wanted.

941
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 8: Fair and square.

942
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 13: So you know, Reggie was a dynamic player and it

943
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 13: was a great individual character guy that I appreciate even

944
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 13: that to this day when we have opportunities come together

945
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 13: and do things together.

946
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 8: He's just a fun person. And he wanted fairy.

947
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: Square because he wanted on the field, is what you're saying.

948
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 8: He definitely wanted on the field for sure.

949
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, if the.

950
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 13: Heisman was probably after then I probably shore. I think

951
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 13: we probably would have they would have caved it to me.

952
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 13: But he earned a very fairy square for sure.

953
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: But you didn't have a chip on your shoulder going

954
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: into the national title game.

955
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 13: Yeah, I was pissed off a little, and I was

956
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 13: definitely upset because I wanted to bring that heusman back

957
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 13: to Austin because you know, Earl Campbell and Ricky Williams wanted.

958
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 13: You know, a lot of people don't understand that the

959
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 13: Heisman Trophy, it's not just an individual accolade.

960
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 8: It's actually a team award.

961
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 13: So I really wanted to bring that back home to

962
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 13: Austin and then so we can have three Heisman Trophies

963
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 13: at the University of Texas.

964
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got the national title and you'd rather

965
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: have a national title than a Heisman.

966
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 13: Yeah, and we needed that because I think it was

967
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 13: thirty seven years before we had a championship. So we

968
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 13: definitely need to bring that trophy back to Austin, Texas,

969
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 13: in the state of Texas.

970
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 2: As Matthew McConaughey ever suggested to put you in a movie.

971
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 13: I haven't tapped him on the shoulder yet about that yet,

972
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 13: but it's coming. Oh it is, I will there's some

973
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 13: things that I that's working underneath the radar. But you know,

974
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 13: for him to mentor Bjeon right now, I thought that

975
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 13: was pretty cool because Bijeon wants to get into acting

976
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 13: when he's done playing, and well while he's playing, and

977
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 13: for him for Matthew to give him guidance on that,

978
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 13: you know, I should have took advantage of that a.

979
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 8: Long time ago.

980
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 13: But you know, I'm happy that he's doing that for

981
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 13: a lot of the you know, young athletes out there

982
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 13: that want to get probably involved with in the movies.

983
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: You on the sidelines on Saturday.

984
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, I don't too much. Let my loanhorn go

985
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 13: to any places without me.

986
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 2: Now does Sarkesian? Has he ever asked you for advice?

987
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 13: I spoke to the team before, you know, kind of

988
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 13: give them, you know, things that they should work on,

989
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 13: things that they should focus on, understanding the tradition of

990
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 13: the University of Texas, you know, things like that. You know,

991
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 13: I enjoy doing that, but most time I don't. I

992
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 13: don't bother coach. I just like being around him. He's

993
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 13: a great coach, pretty good coach. He's down to earth,

994
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 13: you know. I like talking to him about the USC

995
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 13: games and talking football. You know, he played at by

996
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 13: U quarterback. You know, we kind of in the same

997
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 13: position because we played in the same you know, same

998
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 13: the same position.

999
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 8: So it's always cool to be around coach Star.

1000
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: And sark was there at USC when you won the

1001
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: national title.

1002
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 13: Yeah, so you know we had to ask him, why

1003
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 13: did you why you didn't have Reggie Bush in the

1004
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 13: game on that that play.

1005
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 8: Everybody wanted to know that.

1006
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 13: So that was the first question I had to ask

1007
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 13: when I first met him, when he came to Texas

1008
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 13: and you know, came to head coach at the University

1009
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 13: of Texas.

1010
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: Well, I have fun in Columbus. Hopefully they treat you

1011
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: nice and good luck with the podcast bench.

1012
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 13: Yeah, hopefully they had treat me. Like you said, it's

1013
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 13: gonna be really wild out there. But thanks man, I'm

1014
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 13: glad to have opportunity to chat. Which is good to

1015
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 13: see you.

1016
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: That's Vince Young, former Texas quarterback. He was the six

1017
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year, two time Pro Bowl

1018
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: quarterback as well. I'm hearing from USC fans. Why do

1019
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: you have Vince Young on?

1020
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 9: I go?

1021
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: Why are you so sensited? I mean, I have Matt

1022
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: Weinert on, Well, I have Lyndale White on if you

1023
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: want to nice, Yes, Todd.

1024
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 11: We've had San Chaz, Reggie, but we've had plenty of

1025
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 11: USC cousin.

1026
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: I know, but Vince Young ran in the touchdown and

1027
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: they'd lost the nation.

1028
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 3: They'll have to get over it. There was two thousand

1029
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 3: and five.

1030
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: Oh coming from you getting over so like thirty nine

1031
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: ten super Bowls, The Stampede Podcast, The Texas Longhorns with

1032
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: Vince and Mac Brown. You can go to the Stampede

1033
00:48:53,239 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 2: ut dot com to subscribe. Uh seea and Albert Querque. Hi, Deanna, Hello, Hi.

1034
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 9: I'd like to weigh in for my husband Ryan six

1035
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 9: four two thirty five. He's a diehard fan and then

1036
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 9: listening to y'all forever and it's his birthday today and.

1037
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 2: His name is Ryan Ryan. Okay, here we go three two?

1038
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 9: What ball?

1039
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 10: Oh?

1040
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: Just getting the crescendo.

1041
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: Oh you were, Oh you were being the conductor there.

1042
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: You had your hands up. I thought I was like

1043
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: a stop sign there, Happy birthday to go down.

1044
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 9: That was awesome that I just make his his day.

1045
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 9: His leak A huge fan, and he says I remind

1046
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 9: him of a fritzy. He calls me his little fritzy.

1047
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 9: I seem not a compliment.

1048
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: That's not that's unfortunately, that is not. Oh yes, I

1049
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: see so I hate to break this out. Yes, thank

1050
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: you though you did it. You did your job, Deanna.

1051
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 2: But have a great weekend. Thanks for joining us. Let's

1052
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: see Jacob in Oklahoma. Hi, Jake, what's on?

1053
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 14: Your mind today, Hey Dan, first time caller, a longtime listener.

1054
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 14: One point seven meters eighty kilgrams. Okay, and it's very

1055
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 14: horm my muscles at least. Of course, I don't think

1056
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 14: you could talk about getting over anything. You just celebrated

1057
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 14: your Finder anniversary with the Baigo incident, so I don't

1058
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 14: know if that's really something you've been doing, and you

1059
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 14: kind of touched on it. But Michael Parsons, I've seen

1060
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 14: him a couple of times in person, and I've.

1061
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: Kind of been underwhelmed.

1062
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 14: It just seems like his effort is kind of hit

1063
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 14: or miss. I know Jerry should have signed Mike a

1064
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 14: long time ago, but with forty seven middle a year,

1065
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 14: I I kind of got to defend Garry a little bit.

1066
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 14: I mean, it's not like he was gonna win anything

1067
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 14: going for it. He's probably still not going to.

1068
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: And look, Jacob, I understand that. I think he got

1069
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: to a point where he was too expensive and there

1070
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: was some you know, kind of leftover scar tissue. But

1071
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 2: do it in March. If you're going to hold a

1072
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 2: grudge against him because he didn't agree to that deal

1073
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 2: that was a handshake agreement, then trade him. If you're

1074
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: going to do something for the betterment of the franchise,

1075
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: then do it back then. That way you can bring

1076
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 2: in other teams. Everybody's got their draft picks. Micah Parsons

1077
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: is available. Come on down. Who's interested. But thank you

1078
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: for the phone call.