Speaker 1: From the King of sports Books, comes the Key Sports
Speaker 1: Podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry
Speaker 1: Ferrara and Olivia Harlan Dekker. Welcome in everyone. We have
Speaker 1: a great show this week. I'm really excited because of
Speaker 1: course we're going to talk through the NFL slate. We'll
Speaker 1: talk betting advice at the end with Peter Andrew all
Speaker 1: the storylines. But we are also previewing the World Cup
Speaker 1: with Tim Howard. I'm so excited. Do you see him
Speaker 1: on TV now? He covers the Premier League friend BC.
Speaker 1: He's a former US national team goalkeeper. He knows everything
Speaker 1: that you might not and he'll give us the scoop,
Speaker 1: right so we can bet on some matches. So I'm
Speaker 1: really looking forward to that. But first, the King returned
Speaker 1: to his kingdom. Jerry Ferrara, you went to madithon Square
Speaker 1: Garden for a Knicks game for the first time in
Speaker 1: three years. You're up on the JumboTron on Gucci Road.
Speaker 1: Tell me all the details. Oh, Olivia, it was good
Speaker 1: to be back. You know. I had been back to
Speaker 1: New York a couple of times in the last three years,
Speaker 1: but usually it's been with the kids. So this was
Speaker 1: the first time in three years that both my wife
Speaker 1: and I went to New York with no children, and
Speaker 1: I actually remembered all the stuff I used to do,
Speaker 1: particularly in the morning time, before having kids. And also
Speaker 1: it was arguably the greatest weather situation. It was like
Speaker 1: seventy degrees in New York. Yes, I went to a
Speaker 1: Knicks game. I also went to the bet MGM headquarters
Speaker 1: in Jersey City, which was incredible, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that for a little bit. But yes, I was emotional
Speaker 1: going back to Madison Square Guarden for the first time
Speaker 1: in for you, So, I actually found it to be
Speaker 1: an emotional experience. Now, you know, when you're out of
Speaker 1: game and you see the celebrities thrown up on the JumboTron,
Speaker 1: and they usually cut a couple of people out, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like whoever you're sitting next to?
Speaker 1: So who were you sitting next to? And are they mad?
Speaker 1: I was. It was weird too, because people rotated. I
Speaker 1: was sitting next to Tiesto, Tiesto and uh my right
Speaker 1: at one point, but then he moved. Was Fat Joe,
Speaker 1: who's like in New York City obviously a Knicks icon
Speaker 1: and it was like him and Jada kiss and it
Speaker 1: was it was great. Uh, it's a weird thing. If
Speaker 1: you want to talk about it now, we could dive
Speaker 1: right into the experience because now that everything you're about
Speaker 1: to hear is gonna sound super like, whoa, you're big time,
Speaker 1: all right? Well trust I am not big time, And
Speaker 1: just trust when I'm saying these things that this is
Speaker 1: by far the coolest thing that I've ever had the
Speaker 1: chance to do because of my career choice. This is
Speaker 1: the best thing that's happened. It goes like financial stability
Speaker 1: and this experience I'm about to talk about right now.
Speaker 1: So you roll up to this Knicks game as a
Speaker 1: quote air quote celeb and you go in through like
Speaker 1: a v I p entrance and there's the sweet where
Speaker 1: you get to eat some food before the game, and
Speaker 1: everyone's rolling in and it's kind of like a party.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. This all sounds great, but
Speaker 1: I'm there to watch an NBA game, So I'm staring,
Speaker 1: like waiting. You don't have your tickets yet. They come
Speaker 1: bring the tickets to so I'm waiting. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's six thirty six forty five tip offs at seven thirty.
Speaker 1: I love the warm ups. I want to get down there,
Speaker 1: so I finally get my tickets. My wife and I
Speaker 1: run to our seats, and of course it's like that
Speaker 1: celebro that's amazing. And my buddy Ben Lyons and I'll
Speaker 1: share this picture on social took a picture the whole
Speaker 1: celebrity row empty except for me and my wife sitting there,
Speaker 1: and arguably my wife had the biggest fumble of all
Speaker 1: time and the history of courtside experience. I said to her,
Speaker 1: I said, look, it's been three years. I don't know
Speaker 1: if any of these players know who the hell I am.
Speaker 1: But in the event that one of them do discreetly
Speaker 1: snag a little video if there's an if there's an
Speaker 1: exchange while they're warming up, yeah, and she's usually to
Speaker 1: go with this, And sure enough, who comes over. R J.
Speaker 1: Barrett comes strolling over and he calls me by my
Speaker 1: power name. He says, hey, Proctor and I stand up,
Speaker 1: and we were we're embracing Olivia. We're hugging at center court.
Speaker 1: I'm my head's on his shoulder and we have this
Speaker 1: great exchange. I talked to him for a bit, shook hands,
Speaker 1: he went out, great. I sat down and I said
Speaker 1: to brethe Hey, Brease, send me that video when you can,
Speaker 1: and she's She's just sitting there like, uh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't get it. You didn't get it. She's like, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I just I paused, and I was like,
Speaker 1: actually listening to what you guys were saying. She didn't
Speaker 1: get that moment of r J and I embracing at
Speaker 1: center court, fumble whispering sweet nothings? Can you give him
Speaker 1: a little priggy massage? But look, no, there's no proof.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I believe you exactly. I
Speaker 1: could a hundred percent be line, but I will share
Speaker 1: the video of me sitting courtside with Brie, and entire
Speaker 1: celebrity row is empty. People don't start strolling into like
Speaker 1: seven minutes to go in the first quarter, which is
Speaker 1: absurd to me. We're here to watch basketball, I know. Look,
Speaker 1: I was an NBA wife for a while and I
Speaker 1: didn't even get to the games early. My husband would
Speaker 1: be starting and you know, he would text me, Hey,
Speaker 1: I think I'm starting tonight, you know, like an hour
Speaker 1: before the game. I'm like, oh crap. We live in
Speaker 1: l A. And I can't get the staples in an hour.
Speaker 1: So um no, it's it's uncommon to get to games
Speaker 1: on time. Yeah, same thing. At halftime, everyone goes back
Speaker 1: up to that really amazing sweet and it is an
Speaker 1: amazing sweet breathe knows the deal. We go up down
Speaker 1: the water, use the bathroom, right back down to the
Speaker 1: floor for the water. Did I say water? Water's code
Speaker 1: for wine or whatever it is, beverage of choice, down
Speaker 1: a quick charity and hit back. Yeah. I was trying,
Speaker 1: you know, I was trying to. But the JumboTron is
Speaker 1: is arguably the coolest thing that could ever have. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure people aren't crazy when they saw you. They
Speaker 1: know you're such a New York guy. I got a
Speaker 1: nice pop. I'm not gonna lie. They show a clip
Speaker 1: usually before and you always wonder, God, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be like silence? Am I gonna get a boo? And
Speaker 1: it was a good pop. I never quite know what
Speaker 1: to do. They tell you the wave and them I
Speaker 1: I do like a clap. We've you don't know really
Speaker 1: what to do. That's a good Yeah. Some people just
Speaker 1: like stare and then you're kind of like, come on, dude, interact.
Speaker 1: But some people do comedy bits really quickly. Yeah, So anyway,
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, Like, I still have to pinch
Speaker 1: myself that these things still happen to me. Okay, should
Speaker 1: we get to some NFL Yes, yes, because there's a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about. Oh my gosh, we've got to
Speaker 1: hash out a few things that happened last weekend before
Speaker 1: we look forward. Everyone is saying we may have seen
Speaker 1: one of the best games ever played. Now I think
Speaker 1: that might be recently biased. I don't know. Vikings give
Speaker 1: the Bills their second straight loss, overtime thriller, one of
Speaker 1: the best catches I think we've ever seen, justin Jefferson's
Speaker 1: acrobatics on fourth and eighteen the games on the line,
Speaker 1: cornerback Cam Lewis basically had it is all over him.
Speaker 1: It's just amazing. Every time I keep seeing a replay
Speaker 1: of it, like on Twitter or something, I still stop
Speaker 1: what I'm doing to watch. It's incredible. And the ball
Speaker 1: was actually overthrown a bit like I mean, it was
Speaker 1: just crazy. What do you think of that catch? And
Speaker 1: was it one of the best games we've ever seen?
Speaker 1: You know what I first thought about when that catch
Speaker 1: was made? Ironically, my first thought was not only is
Speaker 1: this an amazing game and and it is one of
Speaker 1: the best regular season NFL games. And I know that's
Speaker 1: the whole why a you're saying regular season because if
Speaker 1: that happened in the playoffs, that legitimately would be like that.
Speaker 1: It would be the best playoff game I think we've
Speaker 1: ever seen. But the first thoughts that went through my
Speaker 1: head were, was there ever a more beneficial even trade
Speaker 1: in the history of sports. Maybe that was Stefon Diggs
Speaker 1: to the Bills for the draft pick which becomes Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: They essentially traded Stefon Diggs for Justin Jefferson. Jefferson was
Speaker 1: obviously amazing in the game, sort of overshadows Digs, who
Speaker 1: had twelve catches for a hundred and eighties something yards
Speaker 1: and just a monster game from Digs as well. So
Speaker 1: that went through my mind of wow, that trade. There's
Speaker 1: no winner or loser. You can maybe say, all right,
Speaker 1: Jefferson's younger, so slight edge to the Vikings, But somehow,
Speaker 1: to Olivia, I feel like that was the outcome, that
Speaker 1: that was right because I know the fumble is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I get it, the fumble is absolutely ridiculous, but Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins not getting in on fourth and goal from the
Speaker 1: half inch line is ridiculous. That's something that probably has
Speaker 1: a one percent chance of happening, of him not getting
Speaker 1: in from twelve inches outside of the goal line, and
Speaker 1: then the fumble that it probably has a point one
Speaker 1: chance of happening. But I still, I somehow felt like
Speaker 1: the outcome was the proper outcome, if that makes any sense. No,
Speaker 1: I know what you mean to your point about the
Speaker 1: trade and the pick of Justin Jefferson. Have you seen
Speaker 1: the video. It's the zoom video of the NFL draft
Speaker 1: when Jalen Reagor was taken one pick before Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: It's the Vikings like draft room because everything was still covidy,
Speaker 1: so everyone was on zoom and there faces when it's
Speaker 1: announced that they took Jalen Reagor ahead of Justin Jefferson
Speaker 1: and they all cannot believe it. And I have a
Speaker 1: friend of mine who's actually was on that staff. Now
Speaker 1: she's on the Denver Broncos, but I can see her
Speaker 1: name on the zoom part and it's really cool to see,
Speaker 1: and I've asked her about it. I said that moment
Speaker 1: must have been pretty neat she said, we we could
Speaker 1: not believe Justin Jefferson was available, and man that that's
Speaker 1: a great moment though to bring up that trade, and ironically,
Speaker 1: Jalen Reagor's now on the Vikings. Yes, talk about living
Speaker 1: in the upside down. Yeah, it's it and not to
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like it's kind of a cheap
Speaker 1: shot at Jalen, But yeah, Justin Jefferson in the history
Speaker 1: of Vikings receivers, which you know, he's quickly risen to
Speaker 1: probably the third greatest Viking sever of all time, and
Speaker 1: who knows what happens after he's done. It just was
Speaker 1: a crazy week in general, so that game. But I
Speaker 1: do feel like, and I know we'll get into this,
Speaker 1: I do feel like this was storyline wise, like a
Speaker 1: slight correction to some of the crazy things that like
Speaker 1: that we've seen happen. Teams are sort of getting their
Speaker 1: act together that we expected more from, and you just
Speaker 1: wonder is it too late? Is I guess the question
Speaker 1: I was left with after this week, is it too
Speaker 1: late for these teams that are getting their act together late? Well,
Speaker 1: like one of those teams I think you're talking about
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins maybe or Tampa Bay San fran not Green Bay.
Speaker 1: I hate to be a hater, but I kind of
Speaker 1: think Green Bay that was a feel good win. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if it does much for him. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Er See, I'm more talking about the Green
Speaker 1: Bay the cult, the you know that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Dolphins are further enough ahead of
Speaker 1: the pack and they're on a wind streak. I do
Speaker 1: feel like I do think it's over for your Packers
Speaker 1: for the most part, but I do think this is
Speaker 1: something to build off of. And now they have the
Speaker 1: Thursday night game, which I hope Peter has his say
Speaker 1: single game parlay on because this is a big one.
Speaker 1: They're playing a Titans team that's banged up. But somehow,
Speaker 1: when is all these games, Rabel has to get Coach
Speaker 1: of the Year consideration. He just has to at this point,
Speaker 1: because I really do think he's They're winning games by toughness, depth,
Speaker 1: and him out just getting this team ready to go
Speaker 1: because they have injuries all over the place. Packers win
Speaker 1: this Thursday again, I'm not I pronounced them dead two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I think that they're doing the w w
Speaker 1: E thing where you think they're dead and they just
Speaker 1: sort of the undertaker rises up there. Maybe a little
Speaker 1: life there, although I don't know if Christian Watson gonna
Speaker 1: have three touchdowns ever, again, one game boy, I was.
Speaker 1: I was excited to see that for him. I've mentioned
Speaker 1: him on the show before, I covered him a lot
Speaker 1: in college and met him in person. He's an awesome kid.
Speaker 1: You know. He had such a tough start of his
Speaker 1: season with that drop. Everyone won't let him forget that drop.
Speaker 1: But with the Packers Titans Thursday night, I'm planning on going.
Speaker 1: I'm flying back to the States this week and I
Speaker 1: was looking up the weather as I'm packing, and the
Speaker 1: high is going to be twenty nine. I think so
Speaker 1: favors the Packers. It does. It does because what I
Speaker 1: like what I saw last week against the Cowboys. The
Speaker 1: Packers finally ran the damn ball of plays were runs,
Speaker 1: which is the highest rate ever with Aaron Rodgers. Think
Speaker 1: about that all these years, highest percentage of run plays
Speaker 1: in this Dallas defense, which has been so strong, gave
Speaker 1: up the most yards and points of the season. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot for the Packers to feel good about.
Speaker 1: But with the Titans, I mean, I'm kind of surprised,
Speaker 1: honestly that Tennessee's and underdog. There are two and a
Speaker 1: half point underdog on a short week after an emotional
Speaker 1: win for the Packers. I just I worry that Tennessee
Speaker 1: will come in here guns blazing. So keep an eye
Speaker 1: on that line. It's been moving. It was one point
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. But yeah, that Titans defense
Speaker 1: is good. Derrick Henry is scary um and Mike Brabowl
Speaker 1: has won five Yeah, Derrick Herry defy not someone you
Speaker 1: want to tackle when it's twenty degrees. So edge maybe
Speaker 1: to the Titans on that. But I think the Packers
Speaker 1: are such a public team, right, everyone knows Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: It's such a public bet team. It is on a
Speaker 1: crazy You're right that their favored after one win, after
Speaker 1: snapping up ridiculous losing streak there now back to being favorites.
Speaker 1: That is pretty weird. Yeah, and remember they have the
Speaker 1: Eagles the next week, so I kind of worry. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they're gonna look forward, but they can't afford
Speaker 1: to have any kind of letdown. And yeah, it'll be
Speaker 1: a good one. I'm looking forward to to go into
Speaker 1: that one. So okay, you think the Packers it may
Speaker 1: be too little too late. Who else I think so,
Speaker 1: because I think, yeah, with them, I just think now
Speaker 1: they're gonna come up on the hardest part of your
Speaker 1: schedule for too little too late. It's probably too little
Speaker 1: too late for the Cults, you would imagine, although with
Speaker 1: that division, who knows. And if they get a little
Speaker 1: help from the Packers this week with the you know,
Speaker 1: beating the Titans, that may help them. But I just
Speaker 1: think they're too far behind. They lost those two games
Speaker 1: when they benched Matt Ryan, which I still was just
Speaker 1: so clear about, like what is this team trying to do? Cults?
Speaker 1: Are you trying to take and just like you're throwing
Speaker 1: in a towel or do you you just you put
Speaker 1: the other quarterback in because you could move around a
Speaker 1: little more. I mean, I know it wasn't pretty with
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. I do love anytime there's a coaching change
Speaker 1: in her own coach whatever, you always seem to get
Speaker 1: that little pop from a team totally. So maybe that's
Speaker 1: what it was, right, Maybe that's what we saw one
Speaker 1: week pop, although it's certainly Jeff Saturday probably came in
Speaker 1: there and was like, why isn't Matt Ryan playing. Are
Speaker 1: we trying to wit for trying? The women got playing
Speaker 1: that Ryan? Yeah? No, that's what I think. And hey,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan looked good. I mean, and I want to
Speaker 1: get more to this. This is going to be my
Speaker 1: unleashed coming up a little bit. Yep, yep, But I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask before and leash, were you, like everyone else,
Speaker 1: a big hater of this higher because to me it
Speaker 1: almost kind of seemed like ted Lasso ish, like hiring
Speaker 1: someone who really has no business in that role. And
Speaker 1: maybe it's just a clear we're tanking thing. And then
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday is like, not so fast, and why are
Speaker 1: we having our veteran accomplished quarterbacks set out And let's
Speaker 1: just correct that first. I mean, were you a hater? No,
Speaker 1: definitely wasn't a hater. I certainly understand the point. I
Speaker 1: think Bill Hour was the one who was really out
Speaker 1: in front of us of just saying like, there's other
Speaker 1: candidates who have real coaching experience that maybe should have
Speaker 1: gotten that shot. I totally respect that and agree with that.
Speaker 1: But on the flip side, the coaching part of football
Speaker 1: is so hard. Look around, Look how many Dennis Allen
Speaker 1: is struggling. Josh Daniel is stru in Vegas, is struggle,
Speaker 1: Like there's so many struggling coaches, and then there's so
Speaker 1: many young coaches who are coming up, like Gable Sirianni,
Speaker 1: who are amazing. I think it's a crapshoot. So I
Speaker 1: don't think rolling the dice, especially on the year where
Speaker 1: if you did end up losing a lot of games
Speaker 1: through the cult, probably not the worst thing in the
Speaker 1: world if you have a really really nice draft pick.
Speaker 1: So I did, I did. I wasn't hating on it.
Speaker 1: I certainly understand the more qualified coach. Jeff Saturday Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winner played with Peyton that was the game,
Speaker 1: and he talks about football every single week, and you
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna be good at giving speeches. He's
Speaker 1: like a polished guy. So no, it was not eating
Speaker 1: on it at all. Well again, I'll get to that
Speaker 1: in my Unleashed. A big one we haven't touched on
Speaker 1: yet was the Monday night game and you are feeling
Speaker 1: very confident because you were one of the few people
Speaker 1: I think who had Commander's money line. Tell me about
Speaker 1: your decision there. Okay, this is an easy one. This
Speaker 1: is a throwback to a previous episode, This is so proud.
Speaker 1: As I was leaving the bet MGM offices in Jersey
Speaker 1: City right as I got onto the tunnel. So I'm
Speaker 1: back in New York and I'm looking at the lines,
Speaker 1: and I switched my account back over to New York,
Speaker 1: because that's what you gotta do. I get a phone
Speaker 1: call from who, my sports emergency contact, Max Greenfield, and
Speaker 1: he thinks the same way as I. We think of
Speaker 1: these things as television shows. Football is a television show,
Speaker 1: So what would be a really interesting plot twist in
Speaker 1: our NFL television show. I know MGM must love this
Speaker 1: because this is probably what they want emotional betters like
Speaker 1: me doing. So he just says, look, man, there's no
Speaker 1: way the Eagles are going undefeated. Everyone was penciling them in.
Speaker 1: I think the Commanders are good. That spread his way off.
Speaker 1: He's Max is the one who told me, and Max
Speaker 1: I'm talking to if you're listening, he said we should
Speaker 1: bet on the Commanders. I looked at it, said I
Speaker 1: love it. Let's do it, and we bet the money line.
Speaker 1: But here's where I screwed up almost and then to
Speaker 1: shore it up. We liked them so much we did
Speaker 1: the money line for a little bit, and we were
Speaker 1: going to do the points because either way we felt
Speaker 1: like it was gonna be a close game. Maybe they
Speaker 1: lose a nail buyer, so we can hedge a little
Speaker 1: bit by taking the points. Cut to last night's game
Speaker 1: washed great, we were I'm so proud. It's his proudest
Speaker 1: moment ever. He's so happy, right, I didn't even know
Speaker 1: this the whole entire time. Instead of clicking the point
Speaker 1: spread for the Commanders, I accidentally clicked over. As you saw,
Speaker 1: I think I sent you the bet slip. So the
Speaker 1: whole time we're watching the game thinking we have commander's
Speaker 1: money line and the Commander's points, and we had Commander's
Speaker 1: money line and the over was gratefully hit. I almost
Speaker 1: screwed us out of an amazing commander's victory. Who are
Speaker 1: now getting Chase Um back? And I'm on, I know
Speaker 1: last year he didn't finish up so well, and but
Speaker 1: still at one point was dominant in his rookie campaign.
Speaker 1: Can we say the NFC East is just loaded at
Speaker 1: this point? Fair to say? Fair? Yeah? I was looking
Speaker 1: the overclosed at forty three and a half. It kept
Speaker 1: dropping closer to game time and can you believe this
Speaker 1: one of bets on the total coming from the state
Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania. We're on the over, so a lot of
Speaker 1: people catching it on that final score one Monday night thriller.
Speaker 1: I I still I'm very proud of you, Jerry. That
Speaker 1: was This is one of the reasons to host this show,
Speaker 1: that you can come on and brag about your good play.
Speaker 1: Eagles were an eleven point favorite, by the way, but
Speaker 1: sixty six percent of bets were on the Commanders, but
Speaker 1: just of the money. So interesting night for for all
Speaker 1: the bettors out there. Yeah, Max Greenfield gets all the credit.
Speaker 1: I cannot take credit. And in our text he says, Jerry,
Speaker 1: thank you for supporting me. No one has ever supported
Speaker 1: me like you just did. I just supported his vision.
Speaker 1: Commanders was Max Greenfield's vision. I was just a supporter
Speaker 1: and a vehicle to support that division. But all that
Speaker 1: was fun last night. Do you think because the news
Speaker 1: of the Commanders being up for sale had anything to
Speaker 1: do with that? Like, do you think that inspired something?
Speaker 1: I certainly think so. And look, whatever your feelings are
Speaker 1: about Ron Rivera as a coach, if you just look
Speaker 1: at his history, they've never been terrible and everyone has
Speaker 1: sort of written him off as terrible. I think something
Speaker 1: happened when Carson Wentz left the lineup and Taylor Heienek
Speaker 1: came in. Whatever you think of Taylor Heiink's talent, you know,
Speaker 1: that could be a separate discussion. But one thing is
Speaker 1: the team is playing hard for him. They have weapons,
Speaker 1: They have two really good running backs. They have a
Speaker 1: bona fide number one wide receiver does not get a
Speaker 1: lot of credit because his number, he doesn't do the
Speaker 1: twelve for one ninety with a one armed catch all
Speaker 1: the time. He Terry McLaurin is great, and uh everyone
Speaker 1: counting them out. This was by far a look at
Speaker 1: terrible spot for the Eagles because they were probably looking ahead,
Speaker 1: and great spot for the Commanders because everyone was probably
Speaker 1: looking as well. For the Eagles, their season win total
Speaker 1: is eight and a half, so win Monday night would
Speaker 1: have put them over. I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: took that bet. They were kind of preseason Darling's I
Speaker 1: feel like everyone was loving the Eagles preseason. Um, they'll
Speaker 1: have to wait another week. And like we mentioned, they
Speaker 1: faced the Colts, which should be a win. It should,
Speaker 1: But what do you think I don't know. Oh listen,
Speaker 1: if Jeff Saturday and Matt Ryan of Saving Private Ryan
Speaker 1: is back in play for the Cults with Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: and they win this game, talking heads on every network
Speaker 1: their hEDS are going to explode. Is to be exploding
Speaker 1: talking heads of Jeff Saturday's two and oh with a
Speaker 1: win against everyone's Super Bowl Darling Philadelphia Eagles, forget it.
Speaker 1: People will lose their minds. And that's the TV show
Speaker 1: part of the NFL that very well could happen. Okay,
Speaker 1: so now one more thing. I've got to get your
Speaker 1: opinion on the Bills. I think people are over acting
Speaker 1: a bit. They've lost two in a row, they dropped
Speaker 1: a third in the n f C East. They started
Speaker 1: six and one. Of course, here's what I think the
Speaker 1: problem is when I watched this team is they're not
Speaker 1: finishing games. They're being too aggressive, and they're asking too
Speaker 1: much of Josh Allen. Like he had the three turnovers
Speaker 1: we're in the fourth quarter and overtime. Obviously those were
Speaker 1: so costly they led to scores or they ended the
Speaker 1: game for him. But like, where was Devin Singletary at
Speaker 1: the end. He was having such a nice game and
Speaker 1: then they just turn off the taps. It's a great point.
Speaker 1: He was having a nice game, and that really has
Speaker 1: been what has happened so much too really really good
Speaker 1: teams obviously, and in the NFL as a whole is
Speaker 1: who has enough of a running game to run this
Speaker 1: clock out with this leads. Actually, what the Giants have
Speaker 1: been doing so well is either hanging close in games
Speaker 1: with the running game or when getting the lead, just
Speaker 1: controlling the clock and the tempo and the tone with
Speaker 1: the running game. The Bills got away from it for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, who knows why. And Josh Allen is a
Speaker 1: great You look, we saw a little bit of like
Speaker 1: the three year Josh Allen three four years ago where
Speaker 1: you saw the amazing play mixed the turnover. You gotta
Speaker 1: start thinking about that elbow, and you know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be out there if he couldn't play. I
Speaker 1: just think he chalked it up to Look, the guy
Speaker 1: had a bad game, maybe at two bad games back.
Speaker 1: His red zone play in the last two games has
Speaker 1: been really really bad. But you know, a cure is
Speaker 1: all playing the Browns and that's who they have on
Speaker 1: the schedule next week and after that the Lions on
Speaker 1: Thursday night and then Patriots and then Jets. I mean
Speaker 1: they should go at least three and one in that stretch,
Speaker 1: you would think. Although the Lion talking, we talked about
Speaker 1: my bets and I had an amazing parlay that was
Speaker 1: like stamped as a winner until it wasn't. I think
Speaker 1: I was all over the Steelers. Another great spot for
Speaker 1: a team, and I did all the research with the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Tomlin off a by is like ten five and one?
Speaker 1: Is it just twelve and four? I just think when
Speaker 1: Tomlin has time to prepare, regardless of the team he has,
Speaker 1: that team deserves your money as a bat. If he
Speaker 1: has two weeks to prepare for a team, whether it's
Speaker 1: Week one opening up or off of by, you got
Speaker 1: t J. Watt back cause havoc. That's I'm saying somebody.
Speaker 1: The Steelers might be that other team we were talking
Speaker 1: about earlier that can they kind of position themselves to
Speaker 1: get there too, t J. Watt healthy playing makes all
Speaker 1: the difference in the world. I don't know. It might
Speaker 1: be a long shot, But back to my original point.
Speaker 1: I had Steelers, I had Dolphins, I had the Bears,
Speaker 1: and I had the Bills, all money lines. So at
Speaker 1: one point this ticket was stamped. Every team was leading
Speaker 1: by two scores in the fourth quarter and the Bears.
Speaker 1: What happened there was just disgusting. That was absolutely terrible.
Speaker 1: That one hurt. That one hurt. Also why that Bills
Speaker 1: Vikings game is kind of in my mind? Now, what
Speaker 1: do we think of the Vikings moving forward from a
Speaker 1: betting perspect Because they've won seventh straight by one possession,
Speaker 1: that they are now eight in one, their best start
Speaker 1: in thirteen years, YadA, YadA, YadA. But I mean eight
Speaker 1: and one, they could be God, what could what could
Speaker 1: their worst record be right now? I I think could
Speaker 1: probably be five and four. I think, if if not worse.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were in a seven teen point whole
Speaker 1: in the third quarter and like you said, it felt
Speaker 1: like the right team one. It did. But I sure
Speaker 1: get a little gunshy betting those Vikings moving forward. It's
Speaker 1: hard I think for the Vikings bet wise going forward. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you might just have to be willing to lay the
Speaker 1: odds and bet the money line because for them, the cover,
Speaker 1: you're just what you're doing to your heart is probably
Speaker 1: not good for your health. Yeah, it's just them to
Speaker 1: cover is always going to be an adventure, but them
Speaker 1: to win. They've figured out ways to win. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I love the Hockinson trade. Loved because I
Speaker 1: have him in fantasy. Begrudgingly that I'm still in fantasy.
Speaker 1: When he was with the Lions and they just never
Speaker 1: looked at him at all unless I'm on Ross and
Speaker 1: Brown was out Goff never looked at Hockinson. And when
Speaker 1: he did get looks, he would produce that was that
Speaker 1: might go back to be one of the biggest moves
Speaker 1: of the year. That Hockinson trade is seven another weapon. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: incredible trade, perfect timing, everything good, mostly good for Hockinson.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, imagine that call from
Speaker 1: your agent. You're like, hell, yeah, yeah, that looks like
Speaker 1: a fun team plane. If you're gonna say, hey, what's
Speaker 1: the best team plane, you know, I mean, it's the
Speaker 1: only one we're really seeing. But then flight, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like a fun flight back from Buffalo. I'm sure that's
Speaker 1: probably the best flight maybe back from Buffalo. So Hockinson
Speaker 1: and the Vikings they have the Cowboys next. We will
Speaker 1: preview that game later in the show with Peter Andrew,
Speaker 1: but it is time to unleaks all right, Jerry, I
Speaker 1: told you my Unleashed was going to be about Jeff
Speaker 1: Saturday and the Colts, and I already mentioned it kind
Speaker 1: of felt like a ted Lasso hiring. And if you
Speaker 1: don't watch ted Lasso, it's basically a team in the
Speaker 1: Premier League soccer is trying to tank and for a
Speaker 1: lot of reasons, if you don't watch ted Lasso, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be listening to this any longer. You should go
Speaker 1: to your TV right now and watch ted Lasso. It's
Speaker 1: the best show ever. But it felt like that because
Speaker 1: it felt like kind of a hail Mary pass that
Speaker 1: you're not even thinking they'll get caught. But this week
Speaker 1: he proved otherwise. And I thought someone who kind of
Speaker 1: summed it up well was Dan Rulovsky, ESPN analyst. We've
Speaker 1: had him on the show. That's a great episode if
Speaker 1: you want to go back a couple of months. But
Speaker 1: I loved his tweet. He said, what a disrespectful, embarrassing, entitled, unproven,
Speaker 1: inexperienced win by Jeff Saturday. Of course he's punching back
Speaker 1: to all the pundits who are criticizing the move. In fact,
Speaker 1: Bill Cower said it's a disgrace to the coaching profession.
Speaker 1: So you know a lot of people thought it was
Speaker 1: like they were trying to do the wrong thing here,
Speaker 1: trying to tank the bench, Matt Ryan, the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Like I said, with Matt Ryan, I love putting him
Speaker 1: back in. You know, why do you bring in this
Speaker 1: guy who's a veteran who's accomplished and benching for Sam Ellinger?
Speaker 1: Like it was a very bold decision. I think outsiders,
Speaker 1: which deep Saturday at this point was an outsider was like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Like, you know, he may struggle
Speaker 1: a bit, but ultimately he's your best chance to win.
Speaker 1: And he had a great day, a touchdown, no interceptions.
Speaker 1: Maybe more surprising, Matt Ryan rushed for thirty eight in
Speaker 1: a touchdown as well, so that was the most he's
Speaker 1: ever rushed I think ever thirty eight yards. So the
Speaker 1: final scoring drive to that Matt Ryan lad was really impressive.
Speaker 1: One of the better games of the day of the weekend,
Speaker 1: and I think it was a really feel good moment.
Speaker 1: We mentioned earlier. It might just be a little spark
Speaker 1: that a struggling team needed, but overall, I don't think
Speaker 1: it was a horrible higher because if it's someone just
Speaker 1: to kind of get you through, get you to the
Speaker 1: finish line. What an inspirational, excitable person. And I thought,
Speaker 1: for someone who speak so much about the NFL and
Speaker 1: has been in locker rooms, been in film rooms, been
Speaker 1: around equipment staff, he knows how to lead men, which
Speaker 1: are his works exactly, And I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: a feel good thing for the NFL. And I don't
Speaker 1: hate the higher In fact, I kind of like it.
Speaker 1: You know what I like about it. He was just
Speaker 1: on TV two weeks ago talking trash about the Raiders
Speaker 1: and then he's coaching against the Raiders two weeks later,
Speaker 1: So talk about putting your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 1: I love it for that. So good, that's a good
Speaker 1: unleashed I have one if you're interested. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: starting to get a little repetitive, and I have a
Speaker 1: different spin on it. Mine is I went off last
Speaker 1: week about Tyreek Hill and how he should get some
Speaker 1: m v P consideration, which he won't, but I said
Speaker 1: he should get at least one vote. We're in some
Speaker 1: dangerous territory with the NFL awards, particularly the m v P,
Speaker 1: because the way I see it, there's like two and
Speaker 1: a half good quarterbacks in the entire NFL right now,
Speaker 1: and it's Patrick Well, it's it's it's Josh Allen when
Speaker 1: he has a full U c L you know, like that,
Speaker 1: like I am taking off some points because he's hurt,
Speaker 1: and then speaking of her, it's Jalen hurts really and
Speaker 1: who just lost the commanders. So what I'm getting at is,
Speaker 1: if we really don't start opening up this award or
Speaker 1: opening up our eyes to say this cannot be just
Speaker 1: a quarterback award. I think Offensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: Let that be the quarterback award instead of taking every receiver,
Speaker 1: every tight end, every running back and basically saying you
Speaker 1: guys are out for m v P and obviously defensive
Speaker 1: players are out, which I'm fine with for the most part,
Speaker 1: because justin Jefferson, if he doesn't deserve m v P
Speaker 1: talk real m v P t off, not like, hey,
Speaker 1: he's like the seventh highest odds that I don't know
Speaker 1: what we're doing here. He made a fourth down catch
Speaker 1: that's one of just the best catches in general that
Speaker 1: you'll ever see, regardless of circumstances. He did that on
Speaker 1: fourth down. How does Kirk Cousins have better m VP
Speaker 1: ods than Justin Jefferson. When Justin Jefferson made that catch
Speaker 1: on a bad pass, so I really do I did
Speaker 1: it about Tyreek and now I'm doing about Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: We have to rethink this guy's make the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: the player of the Year award or were else. We're
Speaker 1: gonna see Matt pat Mahomes nine years in r L
Speaker 1: is what's going to happen, and we're gonna get so
Speaker 1: bored that we're gonna get so bored of it. Then
Speaker 1: that's where we're gonna start to see like, oh, I
Speaker 1: guess we could, uh, you know, sort of make the
Speaker 1: case for Kirk Cousins. No, we should make the case
Speaker 1: for Justin Jefferson. I'm with you, especially when you boil
Speaker 1: it down to that play. The receiving end of that
Speaker 1: play was what made it good, unleashed very good. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's switch gears from football to football. I'm here in
Speaker 1: London and things have been gearing up for the World
Speaker 1: Cup since I mean I got here in August. Every
Speaker 1: bihar and restaurant has all these signs, Darry, book your
Speaker 1: table now for the matches. Blah blah. It is life
Speaker 1: over here which has been really fun to absorb. But
Speaker 1: as this is a very American listenership, I assume on
Speaker 1: this podcast we realize sometimes we need some help when
Speaker 1: it comes to soccer. It's also very fun to bed onto.
Speaker 1: So to help get you ready, we've got an interview
Speaker 1: with former US men's national team goalkeeper Tim Howard. He
Speaker 1: helped lead the US men's team to the round of
Speaker 1: sixteen twice and has a World Cup record of sixteen
Speaker 1: saves in a single game. Oh my gosh, let's bring
Speaker 1: in Tim Howard. All right, I'm very excited to bring
Speaker 1: in the person who was the last to play goalkeeper
Speaker 1: for the US men's national team in the World Cup,
Speaker 1: most wins of any goalkeeper in US men's history. He
Speaker 1: bought all of America to their feet, the Secretary of Defense,
Speaker 1: Tim Howard, thank you so much for taking the time
Speaker 1: and being here. It is my pleasure. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: So I can't wait to talk about the World Cup.
Speaker 1: But I do want to ask you something. I'm a
Speaker 1: big football guy. I've been ranting and raving all year
Speaker 1: on this show about how NFL kickers are just driving
Speaker 1: me nuts. They're ruining all my bets, they're ruining in
Speaker 1: the playoffs scenarios. I gotta tell me, like, if a
Speaker 1: team gave you a call right now said hey too,
Speaker 1: could you come just we need you for like a
Speaker 1: playoff run, No chance. My buddy, My buddy is a
Speaker 1: kicker in the NFL, and and he says to me,
Speaker 1: like I asked him dumb questions, right, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what changes Like He's like, well, He's like, bro, the
Speaker 1: variables change, win changes in the second half, and he's
Speaker 1: like the coach will asked me, how how long can
Speaker 1: I kick? You know how far? And I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: not the job I want. Man, goalkeeper was bad enough.
Speaker 1: The kicker, no chick. Well, you know it gets me
Speaker 1: about it is you know, we we took the extra point,
Speaker 1: which used to be something we never really thought about
Speaker 1: because it was an automatic thing, and the NFL just thought, hey,
Speaker 1: let's move this back and make it more complicated. I
Speaker 1: just don't understand We're trying to promote an offense and
Speaker 1: let's make it more difficult. So that's my own personal beef. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know what your feelings are for this kind
Speaker 1: of time a year, you know, the World Cup set
Speaker 1: to begin, and do you just get a rush of
Speaker 1: memories because we all do as fans who watched you
Speaker 1: all those years. Just all those memories, the chills come back.
Speaker 1: You know, what are your thoughts as it's getting ready
Speaker 1: to go, Well, Jerry's interesting, right, Like, I'm forty three
Speaker 1: years old. Now this is the first time I can
Speaker 1: actually sit back and be a fan, drink beers, enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Like missed the tragic miss of two thousand eighteen. I
Speaker 1: was part of that team, went to three World Cups
Speaker 1: prior to that, and then every World Cup before then.
Speaker 1: I was just this kid like with stars and I
Speaker 1: was like, maybe I could do that one day, Maybe
Speaker 1: I could do that when day one day. So this
Speaker 1: is the first time that I've ever gone. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do it. I've done it. I just want
Speaker 1: to enjoy the boys and cheer them on and drink
Speaker 1: beers and go crazy and live the highs and lows,
Speaker 1: which you know is going to happen over the next month. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So look, there's so many memories to talk about. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the thing that always stood out for me it was
Speaker 1: almost like a single head. I know you're playing a
Speaker 1: team sport, but single handedly you had us all we
Speaker 1: we were just screaming, and you know, not to say
Speaker 1: underdog mentality, but you really get the sense that you
Speaker 1: you guys all believe right, Like when you're going on
Speaker 1: a run like that, what are you guys saying in
Speaker 1: between these games? Because you're kind of shocking everybody in
Speaker 1: the way, but you're probably not shocking yourselves. You guys
Speaker 1: know how talented you were? No we we we were.
Speaker 1: I was a talented group and was a fourteen And
Speaker 1: I think that what ends up happening is you just
Speaker 1: you start to get a rhythm. You know, you get
Speaker 1: a rhythm going in going into the World Cup in
Speaker 1: regards training and games, and then you know, you get
Speaker 1: all the nerves and you play well in the first game,
Speaker 1: you get that dramatic winner against Ghana, and then like
Speaker 1: it kind of snowballs and it really is over the
Speaker 1: course of the tournament you begin to gain momentum, and Jerry,
Speaker 1: you know what it's like when you are playing really well.
Speaker 1: You don't ask questions. You don't go back to the
Speaker 1: hotel and go why do replace the wall? You just go,
Speaker 1: I like this feeling, I'm gonna bottle it whatever I
Speaker 1: for dinner night before and I eat that again, like
Speaker 1: you don't question it, right, it's just this momentum. And
Speaker 1: then with even within games, even within the ninety minutes
Speaker 1: of games, you go through these spells where yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you're defending for your life and you're making some blocks
Speaker 1: and you get a few chances, you're like, we're in thing,
Speaker 1: and so now your momentum grows. Even within the ninety minutes.
Speaker 1: It's fun to be a part of what it's going. Well,
Speaker 1: you kind of mentioned not necessarily superstitions, but yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: with you. Even like I even go back to high
Speaker 1: school basketball, like if a guy was on a heater, like,
Speaker 1: don't even look at them, just let him go. Uh,
Speaker 1: were you or anyone other think was there superstitions going?
Speaker 1: As a fan, I'm superstitious if I'm sitting on a
Speaker 1: certain spot in the couch and you guys go up one, Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't leave this spot on the couch. So do
Speaker 1: you guys have you guys have superstitions going? I'm very superstitious.
Speaker 1: As a team, I don't think we had many, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if you find a ton within teams,
Speaker 1: but individually, yeah, individually, there's a ton of superstitions you know,
Speaker 1: the way the way a guy warms up, what playlist
Speaker 1: he's listening to, what do he eats for his meal?
Speaker 1: For me, I was always a right hand, right foot
Speaker 1: dominant kind of guy. So I was always put my
Speaker 1: right sock on, my right glove on before you know time,
Speaker 1: I right shoot, all that kind of stuff. Or so yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's again, it's whatever works. Yeah, I I as
Speaker 1: a fan, I do the same things. I can only
Speaker 1: imagine what it's like when you're playing in the world
Speaker 1: up of like, yeah, I gotta I've actually driven like
Speaker 1: out of my way to go get like the hat
Speaker 1: that I needed to get because the un for sure.
Speaker 1: So I always wanted to ask you this if I
Speaker 1: ever had the chance to, because it's just so fascinating
Speaker 1: to me. If you're playing, you know, you're playing a
Speaker 1: game of your life, but it's you know, your team
Speaker 1: is just not scoring, Like what's going through your mind
Speaker 1: when like, you know you're on point and the team's
Speaker 1: playing well, you just can't. Are you in your minds
Speaker 1: and just score? Just get me one and it's over,
Speaker 1: or you just you're in a different zone of I
Speaker 1: gotta do my job. No, that's right there, are times
Speaker 1: where a lot of times where I'm like, we you know,
Speaker 1: you can feel the momentum of the game against you.
Speaker 1: You're thinking this, this Levey is gonna break at some point,
Speaker 1: like we have to get one and you and you
Speaker 1: can relay that message, like, you know, either get everybody
Speaker 1: back and let's defend for this next five or ten minutes,
Speaker 1: or hey, we have to try and expose ourselves and
Speaker 1: get a goal because this isn't feeling like it's gonna
Speaker 1: end well, so keep pushing forward. But you can relay
Speaker 1: that message, you know, through communication, and it does happen
Speaker 1: quite a lot. You know, we're just talking football at
Speaker 1: the top. I'm a basketball we're talking off air that
Speaker 1: we're both Knicks fans, so we have a little bit
Speaker 1: of a tortured history with that. And you know, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about flopping in soccer. I think flopping in basketball
Speaker 1: has actually gotten way worse. I mean soccer, it could
Speaker 1: be almost comical, but I don't know, you watch a
Speaker 1: lot of basketball. Has basketball caught up the soccer in
Speaker 1: that regard at all? No, not not really, but you
Speaker 1: see it way more. I mean, I mean the gone
Speaker 1: of the days of the mid nineties and the Pistons,
Speaker 1: and and and the Bulls where and Nick that tough
Speaker 1: nixt team that could never quite get over to hunt.
Speaker 1: But you have to earn everything, and so flopping got
Speaker 1: into the game. I'm a big proponent of it. And
Speaker 1: here's why. I have a job to do. You have
Speaker 1: a job to do. You know what has a job
Speaker 1: to do, the referees. So I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: always trying to get an edge playing on that line
Speaker 1: of not cheating, but playing on that line of is
Speaker 1: this fare or is it not? And let the referee
Speaker 1: handle it. And if it's a flop, it's a flop.
Speaker 1: If it's a tech, you get a tech, and if
Speaker 1: you do it too many times, you get you know,
Speaker 1: get tossed out. It's the same as the yellow card
Speaker 1: and soccer. I've always been a proponent of if you're
Speaker 1: in the penalty area and you feel contact, go down,
Speaker 1: if it's a dive, the refere is gonna give you
Speaker 1: a yellow card. Now you gotta put the rest of
Speaker 1: the game, and you gotta be careful. I think the
Speaker 1: reward far outweighs, you know, the negativity, So I'm I'm
Speaker 1: okay with it. Referees have a job to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and sometimes they do it really well, and uh sometimes
Speaker 1: you could pool them quite off. Any other sports for
Speaker 1: you coming up, like or if there's another sport you
Speaker 1: could have played? I know, I know, obviously you've had
Speaker 1: such an amazing career, so it's hard to think of
Speaker 1: you playing another sport. But I'm what I love about
Speaker 1: athletes at your level. It's like, yeah, you hear you
Speaker 1: see we all watch what you do on the biggest stage.
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, oh yeah, you're also like an
Speaker 1: unbelievable basketball players just didn't have the time to do it,
Speaker 1: you know. Or is it just always soccer for you?
Speaker 1: Wos was my first love still is? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a season ticket holder down in Memphish for the Grizzlies,
Speaker 1: um because my kids are down there and I love it.
Speaker 1: My best friend is the assistant GM in Minnesota Timberwolves,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, yeah, I'm all in. That's all. I
Speaker 1: could watch basketball all day. I love it, you know.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's my first love. I just love the
Speaker 1: It's just so fast, you know, when you're goal keep
Speaker 1: you sit back there for ninety minutes. It's like it's
Speaker 1: a bit boring. We're US ball coming up playing It
Speaker 1: was like up and down offense defense transition. I loved it. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna talk some World Cup now with
Speaker 1: if that's all right with you, and I'll let you
Speaker 1: get back to to what you got going on. So
Speaker 1: you know, we are a batting show. But I don't
Speaker 1: ever really ask people to make their picks if they're
Speaker 1: not comfortable with that, you know. But just looking at
Speaker 1: odds and obviously the favorites, and it's no big surprise,
Speaker 1: you know, Brazil right now is a plus four hundred favorite,
Speaker 1: Argentina's plus five hundred, Rance plus six hundred. So of
Speaker 1: those three, is there one that you would say this
Speaker 1: team would maybe have the most to do to get there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oddly enough, with those three teams, I'm going to dissect
Speaker 1: them very quickly just so I can lead to who
Speaker 1: I want to win the World Cup and because that's
Speaker 1: where I was going to after. Yeah, so Brazil. Brazil
Speaker 1: is a favorite, right But again I talked about playing
Speaker 1: in World Cups, missing a World Cup, watching World Cups.
Speaker 1: Brazil's always just some dominant They've got these like names
Speaker 1: in every position, like oh, my god, these guys. This
Speaker 1: Brazil team doesn't feel as dominant to me. Now, bite
Speaker 1: my tongue. That's blasphemous, right, It just doesn't feel it
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same gravitas as past teams. Yet they
Speaker 1: are the favorite because on merit they are really really
Speaker 1: good and they're incredibly deep, you know, in terms of positions,
Speaker 1: and you need that to go through seven games, you know,
Speaker 1: the World Cup. But they don't overawe me. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean they won't win. I think they probably are the favorites. France,
Speaker 1: who have been incredible over the last World Cup Euros
Speaker 1: that that's like they've been dominant. They've got a couple
Speaker 1: of injuries and I think their key injuries. Can they
Speaker 1: be overcome Yes, because they have brilliant players. I just
Speaker 1: think the injuries are going to hinder them a little bit.
Speaker 1: And also the problem there is when you've been a
Speaker 1: group of players that's so dominant, right. It's why the
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors are amazing, is it's hard to repeat.
Speaker 1: It's hard to keep doing it because you know, you
Speaker 1: know what it takes to climbing the mountain top and
Speaker 1: then you get in that tough moment and You're like,
Speaker 1: I really want to dig deep again. I've done this. Brazil,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, is different because they continually churn
Speaker 1: out new generations, right, so these aren't the same players
Speaker 1: that have won anything, right, they haven't won that the
Speaker 1: massive prize yet, so these are all new. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be fresh for me. It's Argentina. And here's why I
Speaker 1: think certain certain stories need an ending, and they need
Speaker 1: a fairytale ending. The end usually doesn't end well for
Speaker 1: for most people, actors, athletes, anybody. And then put Messi.
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about the greatest player possibly in
Speaker 1: the history. I know there's a list of call at
Speaker 1: four between Pele, Marridonna, Ronaldo and Messi, but he's arguably
Speaker 1: the greatest player of all time. And like to go
Speaker 1: out with the World Cup victory for Argentina, a country,
Speaker 1: by the way, which only ever measures him against Maradonna,
Speaker 1: and Maridonna won the World Cup. So it's a god
Speaker 1: figure with a godlike figure, and can he bring that,
Speaker 1: let let that playing field level. It's a story for
Speaker 1: me that I just think it would cap this generation.
Speaker 1: So yeah, what you know, I mentioned odds to you
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and I always say on the show,
Speaker 1: like with my betting, and I bet for entertainment. I'm
Speaker 1: by no means a pro, but I just like the storyline.
Speaker 1: I'm an emotional better in the way like and maybe
Speaker 1: it's because I'm an actor in the right her and
Speaker 1: I try to like see the story as a script.
Speaker 1: Like even with that, you know, with that Commander's Eagles
Speaker 1: game last week, I had I was big on the
Speaker 1: Commanders because I just like everyone penciled the Eagles and
Speaker 1: to go undefeated. Why that's only happened twice, and I
Speaker 1: just felt like it was a fall asleep game. So
Speaker 1: I'm with you on on the storyline part of it,
Speaker 1: and I know the world's gonna be watching that maybe
Speaker 1: thinking the same thing. Let's shift to good old USA
Speaker 1: here for a minute, because you know, and the first game,
Speaker 1: the first games are so important. Who you draw England
Speaker 1: that went against Ghana? So can the US beat Wales
Speaker 1: in that first game? It's a tough draw for the
Speaker 1: first game, and you know, what do you see, Like
Speaker 1: what's their path to victory in that first game? They
Speaker 1: can go either way. I think they can get out
Speaker 1: of the group, and I think they could also not.
Speaker 1: And that's not me being on defense. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what I think in a group format, four points can
Speaker 1: get you out of the group. Not guarantee you get
Speaker 1: a group, but it could get you out of the
Speaker 1: group five but four points and get you out of
Speaker 1: the group. And we've seen that the course of time.
Speaker 1: I like the way that the group is laid out.
Speaker 1: Because the England game, I don't I don't think they
Speaker 1: get anything from the game. I don't think they win
Speaker 1: the Engla okay, but you need motivation to go into
Speaker 1: that last game against Iran. If the US can take
Speaker 1: a draw or win three points or one point against Wales,
Speaker 1: which I think is very possible, then that allows them
Speaker 1: to go into the England game play well, keep the
Speaker 1: goal difference down, not feel like they have to win,
Speaker 1: but come out of that with motivation saying, hey, we
Speaker 1: if we win this game against Iran, we go through,
Speaker 1: right or we have a really good likelihood of going through.
Speaker 1: Because I've been a part of teams where you get
Speaker 1: to that last game, it's like, well, we need a
Speaker 1: miracle to happen and we have to win by eight
Speaker 1: and the other teams have to lose by twenty. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just crazy scenarios. So I like the
Speaker 1: matchup of I think the most evenly matchup in the
Speaker 1: group is actually Wales in USA, So I'm excited about it.
Speaker 1: And again it's that first you know, you'll never be
Speaker 1: more motivated than you will for first the first game
Speaker 1: in the World Cup, so you know that is on
Speaker 1: our side. Is there a group that sticks out to
Speaker 1: you like that's that that's a hell group? Right? There?
Speaker 1: Is there one that just stinks out to you? Or
Speaker 1: is it all all gonna be just tough no matter
Speaker 1: what group here? Well, I think that you know, there's
Speaker 1: always there's always this, you know, the common theme in
Speaker 1: the World Cup of like the group of death, and
Speaker 1: I don't think that there's you know, from listening to
Speaker 1: a few people talking kind of going over the groups,
Speaker 1: there doesn't seem to really be that one stile there's
Speaker 1: always a standout group and there's there may be one
Speaker 1: or two, but nothing nothing like we've really seen in
Speaker 1: the past. And so you know, again I look at
Speaker 1: certain groups where I think there could be some upsets
Speaker 1: there and I don't really get that feeling with this
Speaker 1: World Cup. For me, the US is always the pre
Speaker 1: eminent focus and I look at everybody because of how
Speaker 1: many US players have gone over to England and and
Speaker 1: done that. There's that there's that massive battle between US
Speaker 1: and England, which literally all of America is waiting for.
Speaker 1: So that's the exciting one for me. Yeah, it's always
Speaker 1: hard to believe. And you really sit down and think
Speaker 1: about like the history of the world, like only eight,
Speaker 1: you know, only eight countries of one a World Cup,
Speaker 1: you know, so you start looking at teams, you know, Germany, Brazil,
Speaker 1: all Spain. It's almost like it's gonna happen at some point.
Speaker 1: I feel like we might get we might get close
Speaker 1: this year, you know. I like what you said about Argentina,
Speaker 1: and I think that would be a really interesting team
Speaker 1: to be the ninth, the ninth country to do it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be doing my job of it. And I
Speaker 1: ask you, is there a goalkeeper that's like standing out?
Speaker 1: I mean with you know, you know the goalkeepers obviously,
Speaker 1: is there one that just like this guy gets hot
Speaker 1: to really carry this team for the US or at
Speaker 1: the World Cup in general. At the word we can
Speaker 1: go US or World both. But if if it's not US,
Speaker 1: I feel free to go somewhere else, No, I think
Speaker 1: I think that you know, to answer the question directly,
Speaker 1: I think Tibo Courtois for for Belgium. He is someone
Speaker 1: who that this is Belgium's golden generation. They should have
Speaker 1: won things. They haven't. They probably stumbled, but they're brilliant.
Speaker 1: They're brilliant. Now that this team has is really seasoned,
Speaker 1: the young players that we played against into those fourteen
Speaker 1: and our veterans that they want everything in the world
Speaker 1: except the World Cup. So like now it's time for
Speaker 1: them to really put the right foot forward. And Courtois
Speaker 1: is a goalkeeper, played at Chelsea, highly touted, played it,
Speaker 1: plays it real Madrid, and it was a while where
Speaker 1: he was just kind of steady for world class cookie
Speaker 1: just kind of steady, wasn't doing anything that was just
Speaker 1: that just blew your mind. And he started to come
Speaker 1: into that now and he started to mature into that.
Speaker 1: And I really look at Belgian think if they're the
Speaker 1: dark horse, if they're really really able to fulfill their
Speaker 1: full potential, he's going to have to have absolutely monumental
Speaker 1: tournment and he's capable of it. Yeah. We talked about storylines,
Speaker 1: you know, and your sort of storyline and You're You're
Speaker 1: run is arguably my favorite ever, but that would be
Speaker 1: a situation where it could be a similar sort of run.
Speaker 1: I love it. I can't wait, like I'm kind of
Speaker 1: counting down the days. But you really caught me off.
Speaker 1: Are talking about the Knicks, and I didn't I knew
Speaker 1: you like the basketball, didn't know if you were like Knicks.
Speaker 1: I didn't factor you for a Nets guy, because I
Speaker 1: I don't know how people just moved to New York,
Speaker 1: like I like the Nets. Let's let's do two minutes
Speaker 1: on the Nick. Shall we fool with that? Just try
Speaker 1: to take every advantage while I ad for my sins.
Speaker 1: I grew up in New Jersey. It was the old
Speaker 1: Brendan Burner and the Nets. It was the old Nets stuff.
Speaker 1: It was the old Derrek Coleman net like they weren't
Speaker 1: good so like tea. Yeah, and you know what I
Speaker 1: always say, So for you growing up in Jersey. Of course,
Speaker 1: if you're a Nets fan, that totally makes sense. You
Speaker 1: could follow the teams. I always try to ask people,
Speaker 1: you know, like, what would you do if you were
Speaker 1: a Brooklyn Dodgers fan back in the day and then
Speaker 1: they just moved to l a so because I fall
Speaker 1: in love with the franchise, so I would have probably
Speaker 1: stuck with the l A Dodgers. I could see myself
Speaker 1: doing that. But if you have no if you lived
Speaker 1: in New York and rooted for the Knicks and then
Speaker 1: they become the Brooklyn Nets and you just switch over
Speaker 1: because now they got Katie and Ben Simmons and Kyrie,
Speaker 1: that was always weird, but you could have did it
Speaker 1: because you're a Jersey guy for sure. Our New York Knicks,
Speaker 1: who you know, they're now seven and seven when we're
Speaker 1: taping this, and I still believe I still think there's
Speaker 1: like a path to again. I just want some playoff games.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about playoff games the same way
Speaker 1: we're talking about the World Cup. But we're in that
Speaker 1: danger zone of you know, you're not going to be
Speaker 1: quite a playoff team, but you're not gonna be the
Speaker 1: worst team in the league, so you can do you
Speaker 1: have any feelings on what you've seen through fifteen games
Speaker 1: in the next I was reading today about about Tims
Speaker 1: being on the hot seat, which is maybe unfair, but
Speaker 1: it's also New York, so that that there's you know,
Speaker 1: everything goes or anything goes and I was at the
Speaker 1: Orlando Magic game early in the season, and uh really
Speaker 1: like Julius Randall against seeing him live, and of course
Speaker 1: I've seen him before, but you know, I think Jayalen
Speaker 1: Brunson adds an incredible dynamic at the point guard position,
Speaker 1: and I feel like the next always have to have
Speaker 1: a dynamic point guard. You know, it upsets me, It
Speaker 1: hurts my heart. I will say that the greatest place
Speaker 1: to play in the world was New York, the greatest
Speaker 1: arena to play in the world. I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: Jordan's said that. Kobe said that it's the greatest place
Speaker 1: to play in the world. And with the money that
Speaker 1: gets thrown around the NBA that the Knicks have also
Speaker 1: thrown around with free agency, with big threes and and
Speaker 1: guys getting their summer basketball buddies to come sign free agents,
Speaker 1: it's baffling to me, utterly baffle. And I know all
Speaker 1: the reasons, you can tell me all the reasons. I know.
Speaker 1: I'm it's baffling that we don't have a I don't
Speaker 1: know Jerry called a top twenty player in the NBA.
Speaker 1: Is that is that too much of rendy? More than that, like,
Speaker 1: how do how do we think it's more at this point. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's more so like how it hurts it hurts my heart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm completely with you. I always say that's why I
Speaker 1: think people, you know, people always get a little hard
Speaker 1: on Mellow when he was here and there wasn't a
Speaker 1: whole lot of success, And I get that, but I
Speaker 1: always pushed back a little bit because I say, and
Speaker 1: this is kind of a great question to end on.
Speaker 1: I say, Mellow accepted the challenge now because he was
Speaker 1: a top ten player at that moment when he came here.
Speaker 1: And you've played on some of the biggest stages in
Speaker 1: the world. You can't even basketball is a global sport.
Speaker 1: You've played on the biggest stages in the world. You know,
Speaker 1: as an athlete, you know what comes of that, and
Speaker 1: coming to play at Madison Square Card and you're saying,
Speaker 1: I want to play on the biggest stage in basketball
Speaker 1: and everything that comes with it. I'm going to be
Speaker 1: the guy that you could look at first good or bad.
Speaker 1: And I imagine for you, you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: you've played on the biggest stage ever. There's probably some
Speaker 1: guys that don't love being on the biggest stage in
Speaker 1: the world. They love to play, but you know it
Speaker 1: doesn't not everyone. I say, I mean, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I don't accept the criticism of Mellow. He came to
Speaker 1: the Knicks, he won a scoring title by the way,
Speaker 1: he literally single handedly put the team on his big,
Speaker 1: broad shoulders, and like, that's not on him that the
Speaker 1: team wasn't built around him enough to have success. And
Speaker 1: so look, I understand the question. The question is, and
Speaker 1: that's right, and I think it's for as we we
Speaker 1: build up these players to be herculean, to be bigger
Speaker 1: than they are. And sometimes there is there's a psyche
Speaker 1: involved that says, like, not everybody can be Derek Jeter
Speaker 1: in handle New York the way Derek Jeter hand in
Speaker 1: New York, right, And so it's a tough place, and
Speaker 1: there's some more comfortable places where you can be a superstar,
Speaker 1: bring some of your buddies and not have the scrutiny
Speaker 1: of always being on the back page. Like I get that,
Speaker 1: I get that. But for me, if you're a competitive athlete, warrior,
Speaker 1: New York is the place you want to be winner, lose,
Speaker 1: succeed or fail. That's what you want to be. I
Speaker 1: always say, yeah, I think a champion ship with the
Speaker 1: Knicks is worth three anywhere else. In my opinion, I
Speaker 1: think if you get one for the Knicks, that's basically
Speaker 1: three with any other thing. I I love that we
Speaker 1: just talked Nicks and I have I have you here
Speaker 1: and like I we only did like fifteen minutes on
Speaker 1: the World Cup. That's probably bad for me. But where
Speaker 1: will you be watching? Like what will be your this?
Speaker 1: You get to kind of sit back, like you said,
Speaker 1: you know, are you gonna be watching? What's going to
Speaker 1: be your process of just Yeah, I'm doing a couple
Speaker 1: of watch parties in the city at a few bars,
Speaker 1: so and that'd be that'll be fun because it's all
Speaker 1: be just us to the gills. It's gonna be wild,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna don't wear your nicest clothes because it
Speaker 1: will be beer spilled on. You want to score. So
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. I think the first game, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure where we're all. I'll I'll be in front of
Speaker 1: my television on the couch. I'm just not sure what
Speaker 1: city is. Wow, listen if I show up at one
Speaker 1: of these watch parties and I'm telling the bounces like
Speaker 1: I just talked to Tim, like last week you gotta
Speaker 1: like they'll let me in, right, We'll do it old school.
Speaker 1: We'll get you around the side door. Don't worry. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for taking the time. We're
Speaker 1: really excited to talk to you. I hope you'll maybe
Speaker 1: come back on one of these days. If you get
Speaker 1: more time, you can talk Nick. Obviously we could recap
Speaker 1: some World Cup stuff, but uh yeah, go Usa. Thank
Speaker 1: you for taking the time anytime you want me on
Speaker 1: him man, thank you. Appreciate you guys. Yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm loving where I'm at an entrage right now because
Speaker 1: dear you guys are finally trying to go to Can.
Speaker 1: And you know what I keep noticing in the show,
Speaker 1: no one can agree on the pronunciation. Everyone's calling it
Speaker 1: con cans can. Was that ever discussed, like everyone just
Speaker 1: called this or is that kind of a part of
Speaker 1: the joke. Well, it became part of the joke, but legitimately,
Speaker 1: no one knew how to pronounce it. Is it con
Speaker 1: as it can? We really didn't know. Everyone said it different.
Speaker 1: We you know now, you know now, but that we
Speaker 1: even it a beat with Snoop. I don't remember the
Speaker 1: Snoop cameo where we run into the restaurant and he
Speaker 1: says like, hey, congratulations on Can or is it con
Speaker 1: and we're like, nobody knows that? And Metayana that we
Speaker 1: were saying like Medeon. We screwed that one up for
Speaker 1: I don't know how many months before someone actually correct us,
Speaker 1: like it's like metayan or metajane. So yeah, but no,
Speaker 1: we still I still honestly don't quite know how to
Speaker 1: pronounce its can. The reason I know this is I
Speaker 1: was studying abroad in college and I went to a
Speaker 1: city in France called con c a e n Ah,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't name two, and I was like, oh my
Speaker 1: god the rest of my life, I'm never going to
Speaker 1: forget that. It's Can Film Festival. Anyways, it's really interesting
Speaker 1: with the you guys are trying to leave l A
Speaker 1: X and there's a terrorist threat and all that. I
Speaker 1: was trying to think based on what year it was,
Speaker 1: was that happening in real life? No, so that was
Speaker 1: I guess that was probably two thousand eight. So if
Speaker 1: you really think back, we were, you know, five six
Speaker 1: years removed from nine eleven, but still like when you
Speaker 1: went to an airport and I guess when you're still
Speaker 1: going to an airport. You know, Obviously people have their thoughts,
Speaker 1: so that's sort of came from that. But they just
Speaker 1: really needed a reason for us to get delete at
Speaker 1: the air but they wanted to make us getting to
Speaker 1: can as difficult as possible, and I guess that was
Speaker 1: the easiest way where it wasn't just war, wasn't so solvable,
Speaker 1: you know, so and to add a little bit of
Speaker 1: for sure. So that's the one you're up to. Huh yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh so you guys are headed out. And then
Speaker 1: one other part that happened in the episode before this
Speaker 1: is when you pick up these girls and you're supposed
Speaker 1: to have this amazing weed, but you guys get pulled
Speaker 1: over and there's one girl who you like, aren't messing
Speaker 1: with and you you guys are like sparring in the
Speaker 1: car and it was cracking me up. Like the lines
Speaker 1: in that scene were very, very funny, but I was
Speaker 1: just I was just laughing. And then you get pulled
Speaker 1: over and he says, what's that smell? And you have
Speaker 1: to get out of the car and he says, throw
Speaker 1: it down the sewer and then I'll let you go.
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh man, because you had gotten these
Speaker 1: girls right, and so you dropped down the sewer. You
Speaker 1: get back in the car, and then you go back
Speaker 1: and you had left it on a ledge. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I love this scene. I love when it's
Speaker 1: like you just your scene that girl, I mean woman,
Speaker 1: I mean back then, I feel like we were all kids,
Speaker 1: boys and girls because we were so young. She was great,
Speaker 1: she and it really I don't know if that was
Speaker 1: like as really as scripted, how hard we were like
Speaker 1: going at each other. I think she just brought that
Speaker 1: to the table and I rolled with it and became
Speaker 1: a cool dynamic. Look any time my character did anything
Speaker 1: with weed, I think that always just clicked for people.
Speaker 1: And um, yeah, like the grabbing it off the ledge,
Speaker 1: the cop pull in your me getting on the ground
Speaker 1: like what are you gonna shoot me? Right? It just
Speaker 1: was all of that time. It was a lot of
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun to shoot that one.
Speaker 1: So you saw us trying to get the can right.
Speaker 1: You saw that episode, So you saw how we got
Speaker 1: the can right with Kanye? Is that you up to that?
Speaker 1: I got we gotta stop this, Let's see all right,
Speaker 1: Well let's stop here. I'd just ruined the whole episode. No, Well, no,
Speaker 1: now I know what I'm doing tonight and I oh, man,
Speaker 1: I bet can you just now that you've mentioned that
Speaker 1: he's coming, can you just say, do you have a
Speaker 1: Kanye story? All I'll say about it? And God, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I'm spoiling the upisode for you. And look,
Speaker 1: obviously he is widely talked about. This was you know,
Speaker 1: a solid twelve years ago. So this is whatever your
Speaker 1: stanzas are on Kanye. Not trying to do that right now.
Speaker 1: All I'll say is what was really cool about that
Speaker 1: episode with him coming on is his song The Good Life,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite so that he's ever made.
Speaker 1: You know, we debuted it on the show. It is
Speaker 1: the closing credits the show. So the first time people
Speaker 1: hear the song for the most part is on on Entourage,
Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty cool back then, back in
Speaker 1: that day before the Spotify's and all that stuff. That's
Speaker 1: how that song was initially released. So there you go.
Speaker 1: I I totally I guess we don't have to do
Speaker 1: Entourage next week because I just did it right now. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, how was he on set? And he was
Speaker 1: huge at this time? He was great. I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: he was. He was he he was just like it was.
Speaker 1: He was still very much on the ascent. You know.
Speaker 1: He hadn't like leveled out to have that thirty for you.
Speaker 1: He was on the way up. But he was. He
Speaker 1: was great. He was happy to be there. He was
Speaker 1: cool to work with, was down the play around with
Speaker 1: the scenes and poke a little fun with him. So
Speaker 1: it was a great experience. Twelve years ago. Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. You're not gonna get canceled for enjoying a
Speaker 1: little time with Kanye. But just say again twelve years ago. Okay,
Speaker 1: well that gives me a lot to look forward to.
Speaker 1: I'll watch tonight and then next week we might even
Speaker 1: revisit this a little bit more. But yeah, good episode,
Speaker 1: good week of it. Okay, it's everyone's favorite segment where
Speaker 1: we bring in bet MG him betting expert Peter Andrew,
Speaker 1: who's looking very sharp today. I may add a nice
Speaker 1: cable net sweater. His hair is all done. Nice. Are
Speaker 1: you going on a date? After this? Where are you going?
Speaker 1: No date? The big bosses are in town today, so
Speaker 1: I gotta look somewhat presented. I can't be wearing my
Speaker 1: normal hat or making fun of Olivia wearing Niners gear
Speaker 1: and so looking for it's usually in Niners jersey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're looking really good today. I should be wearing
Speaker 1: after that, after that big dub that I was a
Speaker 1: part of their in in San Francis, a big win.
Speaker 1: Boys look good in the second half. So I'm in
Speaker 1: a good mood today. You like Jimmy G leading this team,
Speaker 1: don't you. I think I've said it before. Jimmy more
Speaker 1: capable to lead this team now, Trey, We'll see you
Speaker 1: in the future. I don't know, but for now it's
Speaker 1: Jimmy G's team. He's got the weapons for sure. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's look back at your picks from last week. I
Speaker 1: always want you to do the honors before we look
Speaker 1: ahead to Thursday night. Let's go over your picks from
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, so the teaser let me down on
Speaker 1: a couple of different legs. Um, So the big one
Speaker 1: last week losing the tea are Eagles huge upset. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was obviously great for the book, bad for the picks.
Speaker 1: So the teaser failed me. But I did tell everybody
Speaker 1: Vikings plus six and a half close to Game of
Speaker 1: the Year. I mean, incredible game, back and forth, the
Speaker 1: the catches, the fumble at the one, Josh Allen just
Speaker 1: didn't look right. He obviously took a big hit off
Speaker 1: the interception, So we we want a couple of bucks there.
Speaker 1: We were down a few units, but I think we're
Speaker 1: trending in the right direction had that single bat. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it again, I feel good about this one
Speaker 1: game parlay this week. One of these days it's gonna hit.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make all our money back that it hasn't
Speaker 1: hit from these one unit plays. I think this is
Speaker 1: the one this week. Are thes Are the Packers back?
Speaker 1: We're seeing him on Thursday. Olivia is trying to contain
Speaker 1: herself because they got one win. Are the Packers back?
Speaker 1: And how much does that factor into your your parlay?
Speaker 1: Is what I'd love to hear. They're kind of back,
Speaker 1: but I haven't put the result in this and we'll
Speaker 1: get into second. And also I've kind of faded the
Speaker 1: Cowboys because they just didn't look good. Packers like the Bucks,
Speaker 1: there's chances for them slip in. I mean, we all
Speaker 1: know the Bucks are going to win the division now,
Speaker 1: it's just it's a guarantee based off the way that
Speaker 1: division goes, and there's obviously still slots for the Packers
Speaker 1: to come back. I think there maybe a game or
Speaker 1: two out of the last wild card spot right with
Speaker 1: the Commanders, So they're right there in the thick of things.
Speaker 1: They're not going to catch the bikes, but there's plenty
Speaker 1: of wide open spots, especially with some big injuries in
Speaker 1: the NFL, rams are likely out of it. Cards do
Speaker 1: not look good. So and the NFC Beast has three
Speaker 1: out of four teams in right now. We'll see if
Speaker 1: that sustains too. Yeah, let's let's get into this Thursday
Speaker 1: night one game parlay, because as I'm looking at it, first,
Speaker 1: you have a couple of rushing props with Aaron Jones,
Speaker 1: who is all faithful. I mean, gotta love Aaron Jones.
Speaker 1: You have any time touchdown and over fifty four and
Speaker 1: a half yards, and last week he had I'm looking
Speaker 1: that up right now on the fifty four and a half,
Speaker 1: I like that. I think what the stats are is
Speaker 1: if he gets over eighteen rush, she's a game. He's
Speaker 1: guaranteed over a hundred yards. That's just been the case
Speaker 1: all season long. If last week's not an indicator, there,
Speaker 1: I don't know what is and he's done this against
Speaker 1: some pretty formidable teams. Do we did against the Bills
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back to So just give him
Speaker 1: the ball, let them run play action, let Rogers do
Speaker 1: his thing. But I took him so over fifty four
Speaker 1: and a half, and I took him to score any time.
Speaker 1: I think they run their offense around him, and they're
Speaker 1: starting to realize that's what they need to do. I
Speaker 1: think with that said, Rogers over to twenty four and
Speaker 1: a half in terms of passing yards, I think it
Speaker 1: does open up the play action. You're starting to see
Speaker 1: some of these targets come to play Watson specifically. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they win, and that's why I
Speaker 1: didn't put that into one game parlay, but I like
Speaker 1: them to keep this close. And then speaking of old
Speaker 1: faithful Derrick Henry, so anytime touchdown over seventy nine and
Speaker 1: a half yards, again, that's going to be under his average.
Speaker 1: So I took an alternate line there. So between those
Speaker 1: five things plus seven hundred, so that's a one unit
Speaker 1: play ten dollars returns eighty including the stake there um,
Speaker 1: So I feel good keeping in in kind of the workhorses,
Speaker 1: and then just Roger's getting back to normal juniors thing.
Speaker 1: I think a pretty easy target there. That was his
Speaker 1: exact passing number last week, and he only attempted twenty passes.
Speaker 1: It felt like watching the game, it felt like he
Speaker 1: barely threw it, you know what I mean. It was
Speaker 1: it was sixty percent run plays, which was fantastic. That's
Speaker 1: what Packer fans like to see. All right, what else
Speaker 1: you got? So gone with? Now my usual teaser here
Speaker 1: first one really really like this. I've teased down the
Speaker 1: under forty six and a half too, under fifty two
Speaker 1: and a half in the Lions Giants game. So Giants
Speaker 1: have only hit that total once this season. Every other
Speaker 1: game has been under that amount. I think actually most
Speaker 1: of them have been under the forty six amount too.
Speaker 1: I just don't think you're going to see lots of
Speaker 1: points in that game. Lions have stabilized from the early
Speaker 1: part of the season where they were scoring and giving
Speaker 1: up thirty five game. They are looking way better than
Speaker 1: they did those first three or four games of the
Speaker 1: year where it was so volatile. So under fifty two
Speaker 1: and a half there, Ravens coming off of bye I've
Speaker 1: teased that down from minus twelve to minus six, essentially
Speaker 1: a touchdown game. Panthers look really, really bad their last
Speaker 1: game against the Bengals, so like Baltimore, they're at home,
Speaker 1: and then I'm sticking with the Vikings. So instead of
Speaker 1: plus one, I'm actually moving them to plus seven playing
Speaker 1: the Cowboys playing at home again. This is a little
Speaker 1: bit of a fade on the Cowboys. But you see
Speaker 1: how good this Vikings team can be just going into
Speaker 1: Buffalo beating the Bills. Got a little bit of luck
Speaker 1: with a couple of those plays, but they're a really
Speaker 1: strong team. They are starting to get this from every angle.
Speaker 1: I think the Hawkinson trade, obviously we've talked about it's huge,
Speaker 1: justin Jefferson just doing his thing, and then that two
Speaker 1: pronged attack with Cook and Madison. I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be riding them for quite a bit until they say
Speaker 1: show me otherwise. Um. So that one's like like always
Speaker 1: plus one sixties. So those are six point teasers, are
Speaker 1: alternate lines, if you will, and that's a five unit
Speaker 1: play to win one thirty. Yeah. I think the Vikings
Speaker 1: are probably one of the best teaser teams going forward
Speaker 1: because I just don't think. I think every game is
Speaker 1: gonna be close. So if you're just whatever side you
Speaker 1: want to be on, just expect get as many points
Speaker 1: as possible and just trust it will probably be a
Speaker 1: three to four point game. You have four units left,
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering what you're doing, because we got a
Speaker 1: single game. We gotta we gotta tease. Usually you go individual,
Speaker 1: what are you doing with these last four years? So
Speaker 1: I'm changing it up a little bit, a little bit
Speaker 1: of chalk with the bikes there. So I'm doing a
Speaker 1: regular parlay money line parlay here. I'm taking first the
Speaker 1: two favorites Chiefs. Chiefs are minus playing in l A
Speaker 1: against the Chargers, a Chargers team that's really really beaten up.
Speaker 1: Niners didn't look good in the first half, but I
Speaker 1: think they controlled their attack in the second half. So
Speaker 1: Chiefs to win. Maybe a close game, maybe a shootout,
Speaker 1: but I think they come out on top. Niners going
Speaker 1: to Mexico City their minus three fifty at the Cards,
Speaker 1: another team that's just in a really bad spot. Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray out. We'll see if he comes back next next week.
Speaker 1: They're playing a third string at quarterback this week, which
Speaker 1: was interesting. Still managed to get the dub and then
Speaker 1: I'm taking We just talked about Vikings plus a hundred,
Speaker 1: so they're technically the dog in this game. I think
Speaker 1: that line probably flips as you get closer to game
Speaker 1: time and they become a one point favorite, so hopefully
Speaker 1: get this early, get the extra little value. This is
Speaker 1: plus two forty four, so it's forty two win around one,
Speaker 1: so um rounding up from I think seventy two exactly,
Speaker 1: but all three teams playing for legitimate playoff spots. Niners
Speaker 1: could take first place in division, Chiefs obviously looking to
Speaker 1: take advantage of the Bill skid a little bit, and
Speaker 1: Vikings just looking for that top spot. So going into
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of those teams still fighting for something really really important.
Speaker 1: For sure. They always say there are two seasons in
Speaker 1: the NFL pre and post Thanksgiving, so we're kind of
Speaker 1: rounding out that first season. So it's interesting to see
Speaker 1: everyone form that identity like, who are we in this
Speaker 1: first half? Obviously numerically it's not exactly half, but this
Speaker 1: is this is a fun part of the season, all right,
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Peter. That was a lot of fun,
Speaker 1: good picks. I think we stand behind you on all
Speaker 1: of them, as we always do a lot of solidarity
Speaker 1: on the show. Great episode this week, Jerry, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: you know. I feel like the theme was like, let's
Speaker 1: stick by each other's picks, let's back each other up,
Speaker 1: and everyone else is picking apart picks and why and
Speaker 1: yelling at each other of why that's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: Let's I'm stand behind Pete just like I stayed behind
Speaker 1: Max Greenfield, and I'll always stand behind you and bet
Speaker 1: and support you. Olivia. Uh So, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what the NFL script writes
Speaker 1: for us next week. Oh. I mean we have the
Speaker 1: easiest job in the world. Like it's it's a reality
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