WEBVTT - An Ode to Altadena

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<v Speaker 1>The Black Fat Film Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everyone, Joho and John here. Just want to let

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, Welcome to another episode of the award winning

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<v Speaker 1>Blackfeft Film podcast, where all the intersections of identity are celebrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I am one of your hosts, John also known as

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor John Paul, and I just want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five, there should be no reason why I,

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<v Speaker 1>the Good Doctor, can't find a quiz Nos or toe

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<v Speaker 1>gos near me. It's giving anti fat, anti black, anti trans.

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<v Speaker 1>I am making this a part of my agenda in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. Bring back quiz nos and togs. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>nobody want no subway. I just don't want it. Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>Mike is not even that good. I'm sorry, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the same. Did I lie? Did I lie?

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<v Speaker 2>Lie?

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<v Speaker 1>Lie? You know I'm a walking knee. You know that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I'm a walking But how are you? Bitch?

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<v Speaker 2>Bitch? I missed quiznos Lo jesus, Oh my god. I

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<v Speaker 2>missed the quiz nos literally last month. As I drove

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<v Speaker 2>back to the Bay with moment, we drove back, my

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<v Speaker 2>mama drove back from the bay. We saw a quiz

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<v Speaker 2>no sign off the five and we were like, my

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<v Speaker 2>mom was like Jordan's quizts. We gotta stop. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh girl, quiz nos, let's fucking go. We pulled over

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<v Speaker 2>and stop there just be being boozled. The sign was

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<v Speaker 2>still there, but the quizts was not. It was it was,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine. I look, I love bell, but the

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<v Speaker 2>way I was like, Hi, y'all keep a christ No

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<v Speaker 2>sign because yeah, what heavy with a quiz no? Amen? Amen?

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you my people, that is why you were

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<v Speaker 2>my girl. Also tell me why so is it so Togos?

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<v Speaker 2>I was never like a basically on Togo was by

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<v Speaker 2>God like like like we we would go, which is

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<v Speaker 2>so because now today I like love sandwiches.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, is it to gos or to goes?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's to goes?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only reason why I know that is because

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<v Speaker 1>there used to be a Togs next to the Starbucks

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<v Speaker 1>I used to work at back in my heyday, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and we would always go in for lunch to that

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<v Speaker 1>Togs because one of my friends from college worked there

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<v Speaker 1>and he would always hit me with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Discount per Yeah, because judging Mike's Firehouse subs. So we

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<v Speaker 2>just don't hit the same as they do, Like they

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<v Speaker 2>don't and they keep trying to be those girls. But

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<v Speaker 2>they just canna be those girls. To me, they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have the range. You are not that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of girl. That's just how it is anyways, not even Panera,

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<v Speaker 2>not even Panera, I mean, but Panera brings as a

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<v Speaker 2>different girl like she's she's in the class of her own.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, we should do a whole episode just don't sandwiches

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<v Speaker 1>and we should break Yeah, that's gonna be so so

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<v Speaker 1>for the dolls that are listening, we probably, if not,

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<v Speaker 1>if not next week the week after no where, are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>And do for John This's house to be in person thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to film ourselves eating these sandwiches.

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<v Speaker 1>So what have you do? What a muckbom I'm not man, yes, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying okay, okay, okay, we'll get through a

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<v Speaker 1>Subway five house and we'll try everything, bitch, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>give we'll get y'all. So we're gonna plan that that

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<v Speaker 1>will be. It'll probably be special behind the scenes content

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<v Speaker 1>for some for those who put that behind a paywall

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't like people watching me eat, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but for the for the listeners and for the watchers,

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<v Speaker 1>we will probably give y'all some exclusive content, but that

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<v Speaker 1>is a great idea.

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<v Speaker 2>So all to say, fam isshuring your girl jojo and

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<v Speaker 2>soon you will. I won't do a pay well he

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<v Speaker 2>watched me eat till you want, girl. If he wants

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<v Speaker 2>me money, go ahead, girl, I want to stop you

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<v Speaker 2>about doing free I'm here to tell you. I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here to tell y'all is uh. I would say

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<v Speaker 2>the shout out to the girls who do nails, because

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<v Speaker 2>they really be doing the damn thing. But also nothing

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<v Speaker 2>is more sad then when you get a fresh set

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<v Speaker 2>and then one bitch breaks off, like it becomes incomplete,

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<v Speaker 2>like I have these, but then I have this little

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<v Speaker 2>like half nub now and it's sad because these my

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<v Speaker 2>real nails, like right right, these my real if y'all

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<v Speaker 2>can see me, these my real nails. A bitch got length.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when a nail breaks, it hurts first of

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<v Speaker 2>all physically but also emotionally because you realize you have

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<v Speaker 2>to part with the beauty that you just have to

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<v Speaker 2>sort upon you. So I just want to know that

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<v Speaker 2>for this month, I have been changed in the worst

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<v Speaker 2>way because my nail broke, and it makes me so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is this is how I cope with what

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<v Speaker 2>around me. The world's on fire. The tree of my

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<v Speaker 2>nail broke and I'm crying about it. So that's how

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna have to go get an acrylic put on.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm just gonna do with it. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>like because I was, I don't go back inside because

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<v Speaker 2>also like if I go in the hot to like

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<v Speaker 2>take that under, have to like take off the gel,

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<v Speaker 2>take off the take take off the theo on top,

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<v Speaker 2>put a tip on it all again. It is it

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<v Speaker 2>won't I'll just do what. I'll just say it's a

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<v Speaker 2>soulage because it's not so bad from Afar. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>not so bad like what you're talking about, girl, that

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<v Speaker 2>one broke.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I see it. Okay, okay, but but but you

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<v Speaker 1>can can't you just file it to make it more shy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking I could file it. It would just

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<v Speaker 2>look like it would just look a small and a

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<v Speaker 2>smaller file and the oberk won't be the same. But

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<v Speaker 2>yes I could, and I think I will. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just do that. I'll just I'll make it work.

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<v Speaker 2>I make a work like I'm not having a new

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<v Speaker 2>set anyways in a few weeks, so I'll just wait

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<v Speaker 2>to the new set.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, I just got my done for creating change,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, stand down here in this huh and

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<v Speaker 1>then the the cosmic looks cute, girl. Yes, it's giving

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<v Speaker 1>I did I wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>The file was.

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<v Speaker 1>Alphaba alphaba ala alpha alpha. I'm giving you the alphaba

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<v Speaker 1>if you can't hell, yeah, yes, bitch, we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen. It's so for those of you watching, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably see me put my hand to the to the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get them long this time. Last time they

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<v Speaker 1>were super long, and I found myself struggling to type.

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<v Speaker 1>So I so I was like, you got to cut

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<v Speaker 1>them down, girl. But yes, this Green is definitely giving

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<v Speaker 1>me everything. I'm really into Green right now. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why that's a cue Colors. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's definitely my like I feel like I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>my Green era, like I love Green so much. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go ahead and kick this show off, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna kick it off like we always do. We're

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<v Speaker 1>putting the ask out. We have said to the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Tisha Campbell is going to join us. One of these days,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's not here right now. So with that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna celebrate her and are still here section? Are

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<v Speaker 1>still here segment? I should say and are still here segment?

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<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to ask this week the question for

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<v Speaker 1>the dolls is what is something that you are still

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<v Speaker 1>holding onto that you need to let go of?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna go and give you a whole, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I want to hear yours first and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll share mine. So what like, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>yours up front and in front of your man, what

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<v Speaker 1>is something you're holding on to you that you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you need to Like John, who do you work for? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you in my favorite sessions? Talk about that? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I swear you ask some questions that have that are

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<v Speaker 2>personate to my life at that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you watching me? Where are the gar male?

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<v Speaker 1>The other part of this is this is, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been doing this together for almost three years, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been friends for almost ten, Like I mean at this

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<v Speaker 1>like I know you, bitch. It's kind of like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things is like, I mean, as much as

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<v Speaker 1>we don't see each other on the day to day,

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<v Speaker 1>we see each other once. We talk almost all with

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<v Speaker 1>each other. It's like we see each other. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, thank you. At your point, it's gonna come right right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think from me and I'm holding on too,

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<v Speaker 2>then you can let go of I think. So today

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<v Speaker 2>I actually was unpacking, like I commit to myself to

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<v Speaker 2>tell the story that that's a so vulnerable on the

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<v Speaker 2>show that I just don't typically say. So. Know, y'all

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<v Speaker 2>see me as as confident as bitch, and I am,

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<v Speaker 2>like I am that bitch. I'm confident as hell, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I love my fashion, I love my friends, all that

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<v Speaker 2>person's personality. But I struggle with confident when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to meeting guys because it's just it's not easy, and

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<v Speaker 2>guys be sucking sometimes in the worst way.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I want to I want to preface that

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<v Speaker 1>and say people suck. I don't even think it's just guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know what you mean, but I'm saying, like

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<v Speaker 1>I think in general, I think we as a just people.

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<v Speaker 2>Say people do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm trying to kiss guys, and so you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to it's not just people, you're trying to. I get

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate I mean, I've actually thought I actually could

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<v Speaker 2>be more expansive these days. I could. There are some

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<v Speaker 2>folks I'm like, know what, maybe I don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>be with someone who is this man And that's actually fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And I tell you right now, you know, try I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, you know, being gender gender affirming means you

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<v Speaker 1>you are open to all in everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will probably affirm some genders. I know that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, come on now, y'all. But anyway, so, so

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<v Speaker 2>my so, my well and go of is just the

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<v Speaker 2>idea like it is, that is my own commitment to

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<v Speaker 2>believing that I'm not like desirable enough to be seen

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<v Speaker 2>or flooded with or like blah blah blah blah blah

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<v Speaker 2>like made out with whatever. Like I'm committing to the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of people like people are fat phobic and then

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<v Speaker 2>they don't they don't like my body, and I know that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that there are I know that there

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<v Speaker 2>are people who like who do who do like my body,

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<v Speaker 2>But majority of people push you where I live are

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<v Speaker 2>more fat phobic and I.

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<v Speaker 1>And like, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I want to release the whole of the house

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<v Speaker 2>on me, like and people don't don't don't let my

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<v Speaker 2>body that really is on them and not me, and

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<v Speaker 2>like I can still outwardly be by confident self and

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<v Speaker 2>like that will pull somebody in regardless. I don't need

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to like I don't just search for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can just be myself and like be comfor myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm trying to be in my like Dululu

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<v Speaker 2>era of like like I'm walk around like everyone's fucking

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<v Speaker 2>called that the damn day, but like I need to

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<v Speaker 2>like go the idea that no one does because everyone

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<v Speaker 2>does right without myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're speaking to something I think is really important

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<v Speaker 1>for folks to hear, not only just on the mic,

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<v Speaker 1>but for folks to kind of just carry with them

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<v Speaker 1>that even the people that we think are like quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote attractive, or people who are conventionally attractive, most of them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that has really helped me kind of

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<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit better about my own body in

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<v Speaker 1>these last couple of years, you know, learning and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>that statistics have shown that a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>present as skinny and jim you know, Jim rats and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm trying to look at a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>don't even like the way they look a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them have a lot of body dysmorphia. And then even

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that, you know, there are statistics. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the statistics verbatim, but I know that there

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<v Speaker 1>are stats out there that show that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the people who we believe that have quote unquote beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>exteriors are doing really dark and really harmful things to

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<v Speaker 1>keep those exteriors. And so that's something that I hope,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know that I'm I wouldn't say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>preaching to the choir, but I know someone could easily say, John,

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<v Speaker 1>shut the fuck up, you have a husband, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? But I also want folks to realize

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<v Speaker 1>and understand too.

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<v Speaker 2>That could even for me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, though I've been married for almost fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 1>I still struggle with my body. I still struggle with

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<v Speaker 1>like so for instance, like not trying to tire of

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<v Speaker 1>the situation, but like today, when I was working out

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<v Speaker 1>on my peloton, I ordered a new Peloton like they

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<v Speaker 1>were having a cell and so I ordered a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of new Peloton shirts and Peloton shorts. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Peloton shirt stops like halfway. It's it's basically a crop top.

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<v Speaker 1>And I could feel myself getting ready and looking at

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<v Speaker 1>in the mirror and being like, oh, look at the

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<v Speaker 1>way my belly hangs out around my Like I could

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<v Speaker 1>I could hear myself beating myself up about how I

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<v Speaker 1>looked in that in particular crop top. And then something

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of grabbed me and said, well, people just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to deal with the fact that you got

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<v Speaker 1>a belly and they just gonna have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>it like that. That's where my head is now, like

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<v Speaker 1>people just don't have to deal with this big body.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing I really hope that you take

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<v Speaker 1>with you, Joho, is that the person who loves you,

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<v Speaker 1>the person who will come to love you or will

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<v Speaker 1>will learn to love you, is going to love you.

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<v Speaker 1>It won't be if if the only thing they see

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<v Speaker 1>is your body first. I wouldn't want that person in

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<v Speaker 1>my life for sure for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And it can't just say like I'm tired of people

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<v Speaker 2>being like, oh, I'm tired of someone be like oh John,

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<v Speaker 2>you're married, like blah blah blah. Like okay, it's because

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<v Speaker 2>you're married, you can't like you can't feel sexy in

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<v Speaker 2>your relationship like girl, like remember will not also like

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't they also feel sexy in the relationship. Should they

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<v Speaker 2>also be allowed to like find themselves and their partners

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<v Speaker 2>sexy and like actually like like like just because you're married,

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<v Speaker 2>don't mean you want to stop like like like you

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<v Speaker 2>want to stop feeling desired, And.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean that you're you feel sexy all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing that I don't think people get.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, especially when you're loving someone for such a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, one of the and that's maybe something that

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<v Speaker 1>we can we can delve into longer, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>later on down the line. But that's something that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we talk enough about, is about how hard

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<v Speaker 1>it is to still love the way you look after

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<v Speaker 1>years of being with somebody. Do you feel attractive? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel sexy? Like you know, the struggle of feeling sexy,

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<v Speaker 1>But like I mean, to my point, joho, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is imperative that you really and again, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you know this. Again, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be on the mic if you didn't. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you know this, But I think it is really important

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<v Speaker 1>to also understand that like this is like as much

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<v Speaker 1>as we tell ourselves and we and again This is

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<v Speaker 1>more for the for for the audience, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>for you. The same people that we're looking at and

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<v Speaker 1>that we're idolizing about how they look and how they feel,

0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.520
<v Speaker 1>they're probably looking at us and being like, damn, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could feel that good in that body. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could eat a sandwich and not because no again,

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<v Speaker 1>people are fucking start. Like I saw someone today, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was on threads and somebody was literally on threads

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, oh, I cut out this, I cut out this,

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<v Speaker 1>I cut out this, I cut out this, and look

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<v Speaker 1>how much I look, how much I weigh. And I'm

0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:09.080
<v Speaker 1>looking at him like, nigga, you look hungry, like because

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<v Speaker 1>you literally are telling us you're not eating. You're literally

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<v Speaker 1>telling us the only thing you eat is like brown

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<v Speaker 1>rice and chicken, and your start like you are literally

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like I just really like in the shared piece,

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<v Speaker 1>like I really understand what you're going through, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think from like sister to sister, it's real, it's real

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<v Speaker 1>out there. But I also want you to like I

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<v Speaker 1>want the audience to hear this episode and go, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, Doctor John and Joe Hornan Wright like there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of people out there who, even if

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<v Speaker 1>they look conventionally attractive, are still hating the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they look, you know, and we don't talk enough about that. Hm.

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<v Speaker 1>Well for me, you know, so I personally, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what I'm about to say as old as hell.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also feel real about being super vulnerable on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I'm laughing, by the way, not that Johoan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm laughing at our producer. So our producer had to jet.

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<v Speaker 1>But they are on the They're literally texting us talking

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<v Speaker 1>about quiz Knows for the Wind. So I'm just happy

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<v Speaker 1>that I picked my team like I picked as the

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<v Speaker 1>right team because they me and they know me. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I was gonna say is, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the old things that randomly still creeps up in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind and bugs me, and I know I need to

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<v Speaker 1>let it go. All Keisha Cole. Now, Keisha, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know I need to let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>You need get.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you want to be. I will not let me

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<v Speaker 2>let that go.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was gonna say, like I know, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it is and I'm really trying to be more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with being more vulnerable on the pod. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>something I struggle a lot with, is seeing other influencers

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<v Speaker 1>get asked to do something and knowing I could do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and often knowing I could do it better. Girl, you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking to myself, well, why in the fuck did nobody

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<v Speaker 1>hit me and asks me like that is something that

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<v Speaker 1>I have to like literally fight with myself with when

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<v Speaker 1>I see certain things that I just have to tell myself, like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay for you not to be included, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>already doing a lot you already have. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>already have eyes on you the way that they need

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<v Speaker 1>to be on you. Don't worry about the people who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't ask you. Just know that next time when they

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<v Speaker 1>come around to ask you, you might be bigger and

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<v Speaker 1>the check might be bigger. And that's what I keep

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<v Speaker 1>telling myself these days. I keep telling myself they may

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<v Speaker 1>not ask you now, but one day they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to and when they do ask you, you'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to charge them more. How you're doing, how you doing,

0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.879
<v Speaker 1>how you're doing, and so that that is literally what

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<v Speaker 1>I've been like reveling with. But I know for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to constantly tell myself, you know, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is it's funny because I actually went to lunch with

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<v Speaker 1>with doctor James. Uh today and you know today as

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<v Speaker 1>a a week ago y'all here, But when I went

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<v Speaker 1>to lunch with doctor James. For many of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor James is a friend of the show and lives

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close to me now, and so we try to

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<v Speaker 1>have lunch at least once a month. And in our

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<v Speaker 1>talk today when we were like talking and going back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth with each other, it really was a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about recognizing, especially now, that are good enough is good enough,

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<v Speaker 1>and that there is no need to constantly be vying

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<v Speaker 1>for like attention, like you don't you Like, yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to be seen and we want our work to

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<v Speaker 1>be celebrated, but this need to constantly feel like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has to always be in your inbox celebrating you, and

0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you have to constantly pushing to be celebrated. That shit

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<v Speaker 1>is all. So I'm just very much this point today

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, my good enough is good enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Girl. Well, now that you guys talk about the shit

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<v Speaker 2>that we should be talking about with our therapist, we

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<v Speaker 2>gotta call them real quick and take a quick little break.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back into husicategory in just a sec. All right, fam,

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<v Speaker 2>We are back in this week. Me and my best.

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<v Speaker 2>You wanted to dive into our roots a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>not Kunta, but a little kay okay, I talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do live the history of black towns or

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<v Speaker 2>towns high population. So as you were gonna get relevant today,

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<v Speaker 2>as Jean may Or may not know, last week we

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<v Speaker 2>have mentioned the fires in Altadena, and while fires are

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<v Speaker 2>sad all around, you want to name, we nearly want

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<v Speaker 2>to mention the impact that the Eaton fire has had

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<v Speaker 2>on Altadina, an area where over eighty percent of black

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<v Speaker 2>residents own their home, which is more which is I

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<v Speaker 2>think more than or just about double the national average.

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<v Speaker 2>In the national average, I think it's forty percent. The

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<v Speaker 2>city is also majority minority, meaning that majority people color

0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.359
<v Speaker 2>live in the city. One fifth of them are So

0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:04.920
<v Speaker 2>since you won in twenty people are black for contacts.

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<v Speaker 2>According to twenty census in San Diego, only thirty one

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<v Speaker 2>percent of black residence own their home. Myself in one

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<v Speaker 2>of them. So that really is a huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this limit asked an important question that we'll

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.680
<v Speaker 2>look out this week, and that's why we should be

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<v Speaker 2>engaging the topics of US black areas or areas with

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<v Speaker 2>high Black ownership and residency more and why should not

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<v Speaker 2>be inticipating tragic happens for us to lift them up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so, Joho. I love that you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>this in our our kind of our prep meeting you

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about like last week we mentioned it and

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<v Speaker 1>then we kind of just like skirt it past it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think last week we didn't really both

0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:51.639
<v Speaker 1>of us really didn't have the capacity to really like

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 1>dig into it this way because it was also and

0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.000
<v Speaker 1>it still is fresh, And I think that's the hard

0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.360
<v Speaker 1>part about this is like even when you drive over

0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the ten or when you're looking around you know, Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>or when you're on social media, we're still seeing homes

0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:07.840
<v Speaker 1>that are still burning and sore. Again, it was a

0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 1>little little fresh for me last week. But I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>we're diving into it now because, as you all know,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about intersectionality on the show, and one of

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the intersections that we have to talk about is this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of how oppression impacts the buying power, moneies, home buying,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things that you think about and in

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<v Speaker 1>regards to being a black individual living in southern California.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll say this, this is not in the script,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this, and then I'll go on to making

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<v Speaker 1>my point. You know, I know a lot of folks

0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.159
<v Speaker 1>who listen to the show. Specifically, when we look at

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<v Speaker 1>the stats of the show, there are a lot of

0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:40.800
<v Speaker 1>people who are on the East Coast and in the

0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.320
<v Speaker 1>South who listen to this show who don't understand the

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.320
<v Speaker 1>racism that lives here in southern California. And so I

0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 1>thought this, you know, when we were talking about doing

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.040
<v Speaker 1>this episode, I said, this is the perfect time for

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.720
<v Speaker 1>us to engage not only the stats, but also to

0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:58.280
<v Speaker 1>engage the history of southern California, so folks have a

0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:02.119
<v Speaker 1>better understanding of what's really what has happened here, but

0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.959
<v Speaker 1>then also too what is happening here. And so one

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 1>of the things that I see on social is that

0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.439
<v Speaker 1>it often feels like the only time we engage our

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:14.400
<v Speaker 1>history in Southern California is when pain is on the horizon.

0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.200
<v Speaker 1>And what I say about that is it's like, so,

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 1>for instance, like the only time we ever really talk

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:21.359
<v Speaker 1>about racism is like with Rodney King, or when something

0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.879
<v Speaker 1>like this happens, right someone black or black people are

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.640
<v Speaker 1>impacted by something. And with that being said, I wanted

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:30.399
<v Speaker 1>to note that before we talk about the importance of

0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:35.399
<v Speaker 1>talking about this on a grander scale, did you know

0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:37.280
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that I found in doing the

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 1>research for this, did you know that historically black towns

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:45.119
<v Speaker 1>also known as Friedman towns, emerged primarily after the Civil

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:49.480
<v Speaker 1>War to newly freed black people who were establishing their

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>own communities as a way to seek political autonomy, economic independence,

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and escaping the racial South. So it wasn't even like

0:22:58.160 --> 0:22:59.920
<v Speaker 1>people were just saying, oh, we want to live around

0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:03.240
<v Speaker 1>black people. It was basically them saying, we don't like

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the racism that we're facing after coming back from the

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Civil War, so we're out of here, like we're out

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.640
<v Speaker 1>of and and that, And in a lot of ways,

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that actually makes a lot of sense because, again Tyra

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 1>me being Tyra Banks bringing it back to me, my

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:21.639
<v Speaker 1>grandfather lived in Alabama and was also in the Civil

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 1>War and ended up in Los Angeles, so did my

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 1>mom's father. My mom's father also saying thing, well, so no,

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 1>I take that back. My grandfather, my grandfather on my

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 1>dad's side, is from Mississippi and was in the Civil

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>War and migrated after he came back. And then my

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 1>mom's father, I don't think he was any in any

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:40.879
<v Speaker 1>type of war. But what I do know is that

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 1>he lived in Alabama and he hit the brick when

0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 1>he realized that his parents realized the racism was too bad.

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 1>They also moved to Compton, California. And so, yeah, like

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:52.399
<v Speaker 1>we I feel, I don't know how much you know

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>about your background, but I know for me, I know

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>that like seeing this this, this proves this rings true

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.399
<v Speaker 1>for me because that's exactly how my family landed in

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles.

0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, teacher, teach us some divege, you know. I I

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 2>so I know that that they're they're called free freedmen's town,

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 2>but there's anything a lot about like like. Tulsa, Oklahoma

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:16.639
<v Speaker 2>probably is one of the yeah, the best examples of

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 2>what like of what like like like a freedman town

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 2>was before it was destroyed heavily in the next twenty

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 2>one Tulsa race massacure, but right used to be known

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.400
<v Speaker 2>as the Black Wall Street where so many black folks

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 2>began to build wealth and then people. Then the white folks,

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 2>the white the white Toulsons had uprising and attacked and

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 2>destroyed I think two million dollars worth of infrastructure, which

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.880
<v Speaker 2>today would be like millions, millions more and really ruined

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the opportunities for a lot of black folks to to

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 2>to be to to to create wealth in their own lives.

0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 2>It's important to note that you know, this happens in

0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of black a lot of black areas, alter included,

0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 2>and it happened a lot more in the nineteen thirties

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 2>because of red lighting. Now, this is something folks to

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 2>add to the lexicon in case you're not familiar with

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:11.679
<v Speaker 2>red lighting. It's a discriminatory practice that prevents certain races

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 2>mini black folks. But but but I'll name like like.

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 2>These often created were formed the sense of like covenants

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and restriction covement restrictions for buying property or or like

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 2>or the guidelines of like real estate people but like

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 2>oftentimes we Blacks, Asians and Jews, preventing them from accessing

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:33.160
<v Speaker 2>homes and financial services. This problem, this process was established

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 2>through maps that banks are insurance created that shaded areas

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 2>of more racial density, So people living in those areas

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 2>that we're seeking services like mortgage loans will be denied

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 2>for racially motivated reasons. Interesting enough, and I did not

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 2>know this, actually that the the f h A, which

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 2>is I think the federal Househusing administration sponsored red lighting

0:25:54.960 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 2>from nineteen thirty said that spot bons bons like they

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 2>like that means the government, the government, not even seven

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 2>years of the government itself was saying, yes, bitches, you

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:08.439
<v Speaker 2>bear redline and you and negroes in getting shipped from

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 2>us like that is well on a federal level, Yeah,

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>we love that stuff because I thought I thought it

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:16.960
<v Speaker 2>was just I thought it was a covert practice by

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 2>banks and stuff, and I was like, oh, the government

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 2>was out here being like you girlha red by not shit.

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, So they were in cahoots with each other.

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing I really want people to under

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Like you'll probably you're probably sitting here and you're probably wondering, like,

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>why are we here for a history lesson? I think

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>it is imperative for us, especially knowing what we're getting

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>ready to walk into. Right So, you know, at the

0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>top of the show, we heard what Joho shared about

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:43.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of where we are and where we're going in

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the next couple of years. You know, as much as

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>we think that we've made a lot of progress, I

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 1>really felt it was important for us because again, this

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 1>is what we're seeing in the news. We're seeing people

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 1>on out in Altadena, specifically black people now being approached

0:26:56.840 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 1>by these developers already, like they haven't Folk hasn't even stopped,

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and developers are approaching them and are saying, we would

0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 1>love to buy your home. And it's intentional. It's not

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>necessarily just because the plot of land is available. It's

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>this idea that in a lot of these developers' minds,

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 1>they want to make these areas, specifically areas that have

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>a high population. And that's why you see, like if

0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you're from and so I'm again gonna go off script,

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're truly from LA and I'll tell I say this,

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of in the same way. So when

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>me and Jojo were trying to put this together, I

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 1>had asked them, I said, are you from Oakland? And

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>they said, no, I don't claim Oakland because I'm not

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.360
<v Speaker 1>from Oakland. I want to make it clear that I'm

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>technically even though I was born in LA, I only

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>really lived in LA probably I would say about thirty

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>percent of my life, and a lot of that was

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>visiting my parents, visiting my parents' parents, visiting cousins, visiting

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>friends that my mom had and different people. Right, So

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I got glimpses of LA. But even with the glimpses

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>of LA that I got, what I do know for

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>a fact is that if you go down to Pico

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and you go to Slawson, and you go to all

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>these different areas of like the quote unquote black areas

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of LA, if you would have gone there around the

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>nineties or the two thousands, you would have seen that

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>there was a very high population of black people. Since then,

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>they have all been pushed out. So that is the

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 1>reason why Lamart Park is now white, right, same thing

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>they've been pushed out. That is the reason why Compton

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>does not look like the Compton I grew up with

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of black people what have been pushed out.

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 1>And so that is exactly what this conversation is about.

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>It's about even though no one is inherently redlining the

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>way that you know, the Federal Housing Administration did in

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirties and nineteen sixties, they are still using

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>those mechanisms to make sure that black people, black and

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>brown people only live in specific areas. And so I

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's imperative that we mentioned that. And so I

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>guess you know kind of I want to sale of

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that to say, for folks who are thinking about Altadena

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and other areas like Baldwin Hills, where again there's a

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of black people who have some coin, it's

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>important to keep in mind that these black areas didn't

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>just happen right Altadena just didn't pop up one day.

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Many of them, because of systemic racism, have been pushed

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>out into these areas because they could not buy a

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.959
<v Speaker 1>home in Pasadena, they could not buy a home in Monrovia,

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>they could not buy a home in Azusa, they could

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>not you know what I mean, like all of these

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>neighboring cities. They were pushed into Alta, Dina because somebody

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>was saying from the Federal Housing Administration in the early seventies,

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>in the early eighties, even though they weren't inherently redlining,

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 1>they were still doing it, and they're still doing it

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>if you really think about it. So okay, So now

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 1>that we have done this history lesson which as you

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>can till I'm super passionate about. I love talking about history,

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>especially when it comes down to looking at how systemic

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>racism plays an important part in how we move throughout

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>not only just the state but throughout the world. But

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I did want to ask you, you know, I know

0:29:58.040 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I had mentioned earlier that I know that you're not

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>from Oakland specific, right, so I want to make sure

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>that we don't have people jumping into our dms and

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>being like, y'all wrap in LA and y'all rep in

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Oakland and y'all Nigga's not really no, that's not what

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 1>we're saying. We are familiar, Okay. I want to make

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>it very clear on this mic that we are familiar.

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 1>And even though you know, for me, Oakland was always

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of an anomaly to me, because when I would

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>say anomaly, it was always something kind of like I

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>looked to Oakland with stars in the eyes because I

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>loved and I still do, I love people from the Bay,

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>people from the Bay, and that's probably what made me

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>gravitate towards you. I just love the culture of the

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Bay and so I would love to know, like, considering

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you grew up so close to Oakland and information another

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>bit of history. Do you do you know why Oakland

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>does have a large population of black people?

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I actually would not know it.

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>So for those who are listening, you again, more information

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and the more you know, the more you know that

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>big ass star just flew over your head. Basically what

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>it was was it was. And Oakland became a town

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>that was impacted by the railroads, so they had black

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>people working on the railroads sold in Oakland as a

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>way for them to be closer to one another.

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I had a thought. I had a thought, and

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I was curious that it was and not just affirmed it.

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, so just a lot. Again, at the end

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of the day, it all comes back down to the

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 1>ways that were pushed into certain areas. But I did

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you, you know, growing up in the Bay,

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 1>growing up very close to Oakland, I would love to know,

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, for folks who don't really know us and

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>really understand Southern well and not even say Southern, who

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>understand the dynamics of California, I would love to know,

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>how did that shape the way you viewed yourself? And

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>the only reason why I asked that is because I'll

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>talk more after you about my time in Compton. But

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I know that some of the things that I saw

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>in Compton growing up as a child is what impacted

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the way I see my life now,

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I would love to know your your take

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>on that.

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I love this question. And let me let

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 2>me just say, I have never said from Oakland, but

0:31:58.160 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I always say I'm from the Bed, and I always

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 2>read East Bay and Oakland's the seat of East Bay,

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 2>which also makes sense about the river roads because the

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 2>whole point of the cutting around from Alameda County, it

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 2>was a seat also of all of like the transportation

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>for the railroads in the first place, So perect sense

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 2>why Oakland was made in that way and why it's

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>since errokely black. But like I will always up East Bay.

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 2>East Bay to me is home of the culture in

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 2>many ways. And I always said this question was great

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>because it pushed me to do some research into the

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 2>region that I grew up myself. The data is actually

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.720
<v Speaker 2>really wild. So East Bay, right is a subregional the

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Bay Area, anchored by Oakland. And according to published data

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 2>in my county, Alameda, when I was growing up, roughly

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 2>within seven people residents and census were black, right, So like,

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 2>so roughly if I left my house, every seven person,

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 2>every every single person I was going to see was

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 2>was gonna be a black person. So yeah, it was

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 2>a majority minority of county, and my city was also

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 2>a majority my minority. Like, growing up, white feltsially made

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 2>up I think thirty eight percent of the population. The

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:12.719
<v Speaker 2>main polation was Black, Asian and Latine. Black folks at

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 2>that point made up roughly fifteen percent of the population, right,

0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 2>So that that's the one and seven. And so it's

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 2>interesting because I always tell people like, growing up, I

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>feel like I definitely grew up in a multi racial bubble.

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>So when people so like, if someone would tell me, like,

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 2>as a kid, if I quote unquote like didn't see

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 2>race right like quote unquote, I would have understood that

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.719
<v Speaker 2>because I truly felt people like we all looked different,

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 2>we all look different, and that never meant anything bad.

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 2>And so I grew with the privilege in that way.

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 2>To know that we I had to see a lot

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 2>of bipop faces around me and a lot of bipop

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>successes in terms of jobs, education, homeownership, and essentially. Right,

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of a flip on the head of a suburb

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 2>where you know, where I grew up was a suburb

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 2>of vocal with essentially and football has headed because we

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know suburbs were made for white flight in the

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 2>first place, right, and so to be in a suburb

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 2>where everyone was really multiracial as well. It's different now

0:34:11.160 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>because when I was looking into the data, right, so

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 2>now we're in the county, less than ten percent of

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 2>people are black. So when I went from one in

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 2>seven to one in ten or one in eleven, people

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 2>are gonna be black. Additionally, right in Oakland, this is fasting.

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Some sixty thousand people have left since I think since

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>since the twenty ten census, right, yeah, a sixty thousand

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 2>black folks, I mean since black actual place that had

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:43.959
<v Speaker 2>a certainly hute relation of black cloths like twenty seven

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 2>percent now is a like thirteen something percent, I believe.

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's so fascinating to understand that, like the migration

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 2>patterns of people. I will also say, white folks also

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 2>are lesser population now. So now where I grew up,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 2>white folks were growing up were forty percent and now

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>they're like twenty six percent I think, like they're in

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 2>the twenties. So interesting, So like in some cases it

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 2>became more minority majority, but maybe one only one one

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 2>ethnic racial group. My minority became more of the majority there,

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 2>So interesting to see how how that happened. But also like, oh,

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 2>of course it did. Because now when I go back,

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 2>right when I go back to businessespecially when I go

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 2>back to the city city, which is San Francisco, folks,

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what that means, like in slaying terms of

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 2>the city. There's much less black of people that I see,

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, I and I think, I say a lot

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 2>with people worth with you. Like my my brother where

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 2>he lives. Now, this is a this is a street

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.280
<v Speaker 2>where he grew up on. And I think his family,

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>his you know, his loave of buss memory, her, her, her,

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 2>her husbands still alive. She lives on the other side,

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>the other end of the street, and he lives with

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:52.280
<v Speaker 2>his his aunt and uncle and but but the house.

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 2>They've owned the house the past, like those houses in

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 2>the past eighty seven years. And they're the only people

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 2>I think, on those streets who like who originally own

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>who owned those homes versus everyone else's love there have

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of been pushed out. Now it's like now we

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 2>go there, it's hello, white folks. No, one's not many

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 2>folks of color and stuff. So I'll just say, yeah,

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>super interesting stuff.

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's so many pieces that you hit that I'm

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>like we could go on and talk about for days.

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>But I think one of the things that is most

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 1>silent and most important in this conversation that I'm hoping

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that people will take from this kind of you know,

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>reading rainbow way of how we've talked about the impact

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of what's happening in Alsadina and you know, thinking about

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:39.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, black spaces and black places. Is really thinking

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 1>about this idea of this, like I really want people

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 1>if there's nothing else you take from this talk is

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.320
<v Speaker 1>or from this episode, is really hearing this notion that

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people who probably struggle. I

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:51.399
<v Speaker 1>think that's the thing that has hit me so hard

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>emotionally and it has made it so hard for me

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to talk about is thinking about like I think about

0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>what my so for instance, like I said, like my

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 1>grandfather on my dad's side, he goes through everything he

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>goes through in the Civil War. He gets a little

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>bit of pocket change, he buys a home in la

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and he says, I want this home to be in

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 1>my family, and it still is. Like one of my

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>uncles still owns the house where we grew up and

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>where we were well, actually he just sold it, but

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it's still in the lineage like my uncle still is

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:21.320
<v Speaker 1>like and I wouldn't say sold it. I think that

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>he basically rents it out and he basically allows people

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>to live in it. But the reality of the matters

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>he still owns it. But I fail of that to say.

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I think for me, it's like to be in that

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 1>mental state of knowing what you've gone through to build

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>a life and a home in an area that you

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>probably were pushed into that tbh, you probably didn't really

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>want to be in. You probably want it to be

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and like I said, a Pasadena, or you probably wanted

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>to be somewhere along that line of Glendale, or you

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>want it to be somewhere in the more prettier and

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the more burbank even maybe and probably we're told you

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>can't live here, right, like we're not. We won't sell

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a home to you. You need to go to Altadena

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>right to buy a home. That that that is something

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 1>I have been thinking a lot about this week. And

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:12.919
<v Speaker 1>so you know, not to get away from me talking

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:15.839
<v Speaker 1>about my own experience. I think for me, that's where

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>my heart is. I was gonna post about it and

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about it online, I said, I'll just save it

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:22.759
<v Speaker 1>for the pod. It has been really, really, really hard

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>for me to watch so many black people that I

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>either know or black people that I know of. It's

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I when I talked with James today,

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>James said, we are all like one point five people

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>removed from someone who has either been impacted by the

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Pacific Palisades Fire or the al the Eating Fire. And

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it's true, like I have a thing at this point

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>now it's four people. I have two people from the

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Pacific Palisades Fire, and then I have two people from

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.919
<v Speaker 1>the Eating Fire that I know who have lost their home.

0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>And it is just very much in the mind of like,

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, and they're and they're all black. And I

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>think that's the thing that's hard for me is to

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 1>process that. But I tell that to say, I love

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 1>hearing you talk about growing up in the Bay. For

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>many of you who know me, I've probably talked about this,

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and I actually talk a little bit about this in

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.919
<v Speaker 1>my book too, Plug Plug, But I talk a little

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>bit about this idea of engaging in my like not really,

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I grew up being engaged in my blackness, but it

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>was always it wasn't something that was always kind of

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 1>in my face until I got to Compton. And it's

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>because you know, my mom. So a lot of people

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 1>may or may not know this about me, but the

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>only reason why I actually grew up in San Bernardino

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>was because of everything that was happening in LA at

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the time. When we were growing up, we used to

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>live in Paramount. For many who don't know what Paramount is.

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Paramount excuse me, kind of borders al Monte and East

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, and we were living there. We were going

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>back and forth. We were going back and forth, and

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>then everything broke out with you know, basically the riots.

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>And there was two different riots. There was a riot

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety I think it was, and there was

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 1>another riot in nineteen ninety one. And the first riot

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>was the little I forget the young black woman who

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it was, a young black girl who was killed. Yes, yes,

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>that was the first riot that kind of made my

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>mom go, I don't know how I feel about living here.

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>And then we had the Ronnie King riots and I

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>actually remember now I will say this, I remember to

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the day being probably I think I was around six,

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and I remember being at my grandma's house and I

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>remember like walking outside towards the car and seeing the

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.919
<v Speaker 1>corner store go up in flames and asking my mom

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 1>why are they doing that, and my mom saying, don't

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>ask no questions, get in a car, we gotta go,

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and we high tailed it out of there, And that

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 1>was kind of the first moment of my mom saying

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 1>we need to get out of here. So I always

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>have to say my mom is a part of what

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.439
<v Speaker 1>they call that Black flight that fled to the Inland

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Empire because they were trying to get away from a

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of the stuff that was going on with the

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:52.839
<v Speaker 1>LAPD and blah blah blah blah blah. And so that's

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 1>also partly why I tell people that's why San Bernadino

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>has such a high population of black people. One it

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>was affordable, but also two, a lot of a lot

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>of black people came from Los Angeles because they were

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to get away from the riots and a lot

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 1>of the issues that they had with the LAPD. And so, yeah,

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>my mom would talk to us about that. Even though

0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>we grew up around a lot of Latinae and Asian

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>folks here in San Bernardino, I still got a lot

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>of moments and love from being in Coompton and going

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 1>to the corner shop and going to churches and going

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>to Kmar and seeing you know, living Montillanda lived across

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the street from the you know, the railroad tracks, and

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>so they're having the donut truck man come around like that.

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>That for me, those are the two there are two

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 1>things that really signified my youth in terms of blackness.

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:42.359
<v Speaker 1>Is the fucking donut truck that would come around. Did

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you have a donut truck growing up?

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 2>No, just asking truck.

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>My god, the donut truck would come around and it

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>was I from what I remember as a kid, and

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe I might be exaggerating, those donuts were probably the

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>best donuts I ever had in my life. But yes,

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>there was a donut truck. And then there was a

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>fucking candy lady. And when I say the fucking candy lady,

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>it's because she had candy that I don't even I

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know how that woman got her hands on some

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of the candies that we had, but Mama stayed stacked

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 1>with all the best candy. And I don't remember her name,

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>but I do remember her living across the street from

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:25.280
<v Speaker 1>my grandmother, and my grandmother, from what I know, still lives,

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>will live somewhere around I think it was one hundred

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and sixty eighth, but man, my god, it was. It

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 1>was just absolutely fantastic. The days, you know, on the

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>weekends when we would go stay with my grandparents, my

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:38.720
<v Speaker 1>cousins would come over, shout out to Steven and Renea

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and my cousin Alicia and Aisha, and we would all

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 1>sing and dance and have a good time. We'd go

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to the candy lady's house. We'd play tag in the

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>front yard. My grandfather would come out with his bb

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>gun and be yelling at us for being on his grass.

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>But those like that was Compton to me, like it

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>was just and it was and it wasn't just us.

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 1>It was a whole bunch of other black kids that

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>we knew and that we hung out with, and it

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 1>just it really made me adore the moments that I

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 1>could escape Sam Bernadino. Not because I hate it living

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>in San Bernadino. I mean, obviously I still live near

0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>it now, but I think for me, there was just

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.359
<v Speaker 1>a sense of blackness that really lived with me when

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I was or what carried me when I was in

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Compton or when I was in downtown LA. You know,

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>when I was in certain elements of paramount growing up

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>as a kid, and even now sometimes when I go

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 1>visit my my grandmother and my grandmother lives in Torrance,

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and just seeing all the black people in Torrance and

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 1>and how how much they support and love one another,

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just a beautiful thing.

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 2>And it really is.

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>So I say that to say, I'm going to shut

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 1>up now and and really say, like my heart goes

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>out to the folks out in Alta Dina more than

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>they know.

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 2>You know. I'm curiously that's your thoughts on this, just

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 2>because you mentioned the DA Black flight and we know

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.320
<v Speaker 2>the impact of the fires can very well and me

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 2>will very well impact the future. But Generussia wealth in LA.

0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 2>And we know that LA is about to be the

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 2>spot for three global sports event in the coming years,

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.239
<v Speaker 2>right the super Bowl is coming, the Olympics and then

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 2>another and then and then and then I think the

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 2>World Cup or like a big soccer tormance coming as

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 2>well too. So like the next three years are gonna

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 2>be very the next ray is gonna be very very

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.880
<v Speaker 2>big years for LA. So I'm curious to ask you,

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 2>and I mean, right, like this is like totally like

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 2>just like just thoughts to win, But like, what do

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 2>you think we'll see happen for black communities in the region.

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you think they'll be pushed more put to the

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 2>ie do you think they'll be pushed more south? Like

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I think we're already seeing, I'm agression pattern of people

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 2>from the Bay or even LA coming down to San Diego.

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Like look like like like on threads, I see a

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 2>lot there are a lot of black like young black

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 2>folks from moving to LA, and we're moving to San

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Diego from LA. And so yeah, I'm curious of what

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:48.279
<v Speaker 2>do you think might happen because I know that you know,

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of work of like how now they

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.680
<v Speaker 2>have to rebuild LA, but they also gonna be with

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 2>people the government right of Vala will be we're building

0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 2>LA in a different image because they want to have

0:44:57.840 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 2>an image that the people who come for these porting

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 2>of can also come and quote unquote enjoy. Yeah, so

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious your thoughts and all that.

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 1>But to your point, I will say, I think I

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 1>think it's just at this point, I think people are

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna go where they feel safest. I think they're gonna

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>go where they feel most like they can celebrate themselves.

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I worry, you know, just I wonder, and this is

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>something that I just I don't I don't really have

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>the words to kind of like indulge, but I will say,

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I just wonder when any of when, when any and

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>all of how much? Because because I will give it this,

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:33.320
<v Speaker 1>it is expensive af to live anywhere in California now period.

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 1>People will say, oh, it's a cheaper. Nope, there's there's

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>nowhere cheap. They're cheapish places to live, but there are

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>there is nowhere cheap. And so I worry. I wonder

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 1>about that, how how all of this is going to

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>impact the costs of living in terms of where people

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 1>live and how they afford to live there. But I

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.719
<v Speaker 1>also will say, like I just I wonder if we're

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>we're going to see you know, growing areas like Alsodina

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that will eventually are you know, inviting you know, hey,

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>black people, if you you know, you you lived in Altadena,

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 1>you may not want to live there anymore, or you

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>may want to move or you're coming from the Bear

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, come to this black part of you know, Escondido.

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm just throwing that out there.

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't really know what I'm saying, yeah, I.

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Think that I think that's gonna be the wave. And

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:20.439
<v Speaker 1>I think it's very interesting that we mentioned that because

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:21.799
<v Speaker 1>in our next segment we're going to talk a little

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>bit about community. But I think that that's the biggest,

0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing for me in my mind, you asking

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>that question is I genuinely believe that a lot of

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>black people are migrating and moving and leaving because they

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:36.240
<v Speaker 1>are recognizing how important it is to be in black

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>spaces and around black people. Because again I tell people

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 1>all the time, you can feel just just because you're

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>behind a gate and you live in a quote unquote

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.919
<v Speaker 1>nice area doesn't mean you're safe. And I think that's

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the thing a lot of people remiss. And I could

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>go on for days talking about, you know, the fabrication

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 1>of that in my own mind, of how you know

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 1>how much racism and how much you know anti blackness

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:03.759
<v Speaker 1>you experience in a quote unquote nice area, you know,

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 1>because you decide in your mind you think that living

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 1>behind the gate is going to say, I mean, there

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 1>is no quote unquote safe space when you're black, queer,

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 1>that you're when you're marginalized. So yeah, I don't know,

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I guess that's my long way of saying

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I definitely, I definitely want to

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:21.879
<v Speaker 1>just send my love out to anybody who's thinking about

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>migrating anywhere here in California, but also the people who

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 1>are migrating because not because they want to, but because

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 1>they have to. So yeah, all right, y'all. Well, with

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that being said, we have given you a ride on

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the Magic school Bus for the last forty what I

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like, forty five fifty minutes. But we're going to

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break to refuel, and when we get back,

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 1>we are going to get into our next segment where

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 1>we talk a little bit about community. More in a second.

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all. So for this week's UH set, we

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>decided our next segment. We decided that we're going to

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and bring back Go Love Yourself because we

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 1>haven't really been in this bag for a minute. And

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I with Go Love Yourself. The thing that I was

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:14.840
<v Speaker 1>thinking most about is really wanting to kind of like

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:16.800
<v Speaker 1>touch on something that I think we kind of hinted

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 1>at in our conversation, but we really didn't like get at.

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 1>And we were talking about this notion of community and

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 1>So with that being said, I wanted to ask you,

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>especially with us being who we are at our big age,

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and this was something that I had also brought up

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.839
<v Speaker 1>on social media. I had said, you know, I'm thirty

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 1>nine and I don't feel like I have a I

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 1>feel like I have I want to like this clear,

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have good people around me, but

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I have a quote unquote strong

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 1>community because so much of my true community was from

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 1>college and a lot of them have like left, Like

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>my community is in Atlanta, my community is in San Diego,

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>my community is in San France, so like my community

0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 1>is like virtual at this point. But for those of

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you who are in a sense of like I'm a

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 1>social butterfly or I want to make you know, I

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 1>want to I want to find the people. I want

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to find the dolls, you know. I think that's one

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of the things that I've been thinking a lot about,

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>is this notion of how black people are black where

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>people can find communities. So, because I think of you

0:49:16.120 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 1>as a social butterfly, this week, I wanted to ask you.

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, I know that you're a little bit younger

0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 1>than me, and so I don't say that with how

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>do I say that.

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't say that to make it seem like it's

0:49:28.680 --> 0:49:31.440
<v Speaker 1>any easier to find good community. But I did want

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:34.840
<v Speaker 1>to ask you, girl.

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:42.800
<v Speaker 2>She's just verge girl, she said, bitch, look at me,

0:49:43.560 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 2>look at me, look at me. How much did you

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 2>put out to get in? Girl?

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll go ahead and read say and ask the question. So,

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>so I wanted to ask, considering that I believe that

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:58.839
<v Speaker 1>you are a social butterfly, I want to And again

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I know that you're younger than so I don't want

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:02.640
<v Speaker 1>to make the assumption that it's easier to find community

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:04.359
<v Speaker 1>because you are younger. But I did want to ask

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you what has been a good thought process, something maybe

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that you've learned that has helped you find true community

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>out where you are at your big age.

0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Girl, I'm like a social bat. Like butterflies are beautiful

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:22.520
<v Speaker 2>creatures floating when the wind takes some looking elegant, as

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I am a fucking bat, flapping uncontrollably trying to survive

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 2>the most chaoical way possible. Like I'm like, like, I

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 2>am not a little bit of fla but thank you

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 2>so much.

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Off.

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But that said, finding good community is not easy.

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:43.919
<v Speaker 2>I've made a lot of community in the past few years,

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and now I'm kind of paring it down, like I've

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:48.200
<v Speaker 2>been to this over you know, I'm making community ever

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 2>ago over the past few years, especially being a pandemic,

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 2>and again like thinking about what community means to me.

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:58.280
<v Speaker 2>How do I like discover who actually feels a community,

0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:01.000
<v Speaker 2>and how do I manage time with them and prioritize

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 2>them over people that don't like community. I think good

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 2>community looks like people I can enjoy both unstructured time

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 2>with and structured time with. Right Like there there was

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:11.680
<v Speaker 2>there's an artfull that came out I think like last

0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:14.799
<v Speaker 2>month or a few weeks or a few weeks ago,

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 2>where like or was that last month or in November?

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:24.399
<v Speaker 2>It was about how like having unstructured time with friends

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:28.879
<v Speaker 2>actually builds deeper relationships, right because now in the age

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 2>of digital media, right, but before your we never just

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 2>roll up to your house say hey, or I was

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:34.719
<v Speaker 2>in the neighborhood. I want to say hi, right like

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 2>people just knocking on the door and say hey, or

0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:38.360
<v Speaker 2>what were you doing? And so if I come up

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 2>to your house and hang with you without us trying

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:43.319
<v Speaker 2>to do something in particular or ghost in particular, then

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 2>that to me feels like a community. And anversely, if

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.439
<v Speaker 2>we go out, are we having fun?

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 2>What like what we're doing? Are we enjoying ourselves? Also?

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Can we travel? Can we travel together?

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Can we be in different places at Cyberg City together

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 2>really enjoy having fun in new places? Like? That's the

0:51:57.760 --> 0:52:00.879
<v Speaker 2>thing that makes a good community for me emotionally, it's

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:02.279
<v Speaker 2>do we tell each other what we want to hear?

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Speaker 2>Or do we have different conversations with each other as

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 2>much as we have the easy ones, right, Like, I

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:08.880
<v Speaker 2>don't want friends I don't to me to me is

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.840
<v Speaker 2>not people who just like say tell me, tell me

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 2>what I want to hear In that say, like, I

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 2>want people who will like hold me accountable and challenge

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:18.480
<v Speaker 2>me on shit. I think finding community has a different

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:21.919
<v Speaker 2>because I'm someone to write like I join I joined

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.759
<v Speaker 2>this quite queer queer kickball league, and so I've had,

0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:27.120
<v Speaker 2>like I've made quite a few friends that I believe

0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:30.400
<v Speaker 2>will be like lifelong friends from that experience. You know,

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:32.759
<v Speaker 2>I think this podcast gives us a chance to meet

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:35.719
<v Speaker 2>new people. My job is to new people, So like

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:38.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm I'm also the person that like I

0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 2>think I can be friends with anybody. I've had to

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 2>learn to stop doing that because I have learned that

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 2>actually you can't make everyone's friend. Unfortunately, you know, I

0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 2>think you can, but I think I've also realized that

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 2>when I try to be everyone's friend, I then lose

0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 2>focus on the people that like have like like make

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 2>me who I am and push me to be the

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 2>best person myself. And so now I'm in this space

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:03.280
<v Speaker 2>of I'm the negotiating when it looks like to build small,

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:09.760
<v Speaker 2>build smaller, build more community in small ways while recommitting

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.720
<v Speaker 2>myself to my kid they already have in bigger ways

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:14.879
<v Speaker 2>that way, right that way, Like you know, I don't

0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:16.839
<v Speaker 2>feel stiding it in just like in not having new

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:19.600
<v Speaker 2>things or new people, but I'm really nurturing and growing

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 2>with people that have currently because that really, that really

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 2>is what makes it good for me, and that's what

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 2>that's what that's And then I think the ways I'm

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:28.320
<v Speaker 2>finding it is like just also doing new things, Like

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:32.279
<v Speaker 2>now I'm also trying to There's this app called it's

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 2>called Time Meat or something or something Time something, and

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 2>it's about basically you put in your like your like

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.320
<v Speaker 2>interests and then it can make. It basically creates a

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:46.640
<v Speaker 2>dinner for you with five strangers. It sounds wild, but

0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:48.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try it for when it's like eighteen bucks.

0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:52.439
<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, okay, run up by me again. Say that again,

0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 1>because I think I want to do with too.

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:55.960
<v Speaker 2>So I think he listen trying to find it because

0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:57.759
<v Speaker 2>I think I think I'm an email. I think it's

0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:58.799
<v Speaker 2>called time meat.

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Where is it?

0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Where is it? Where is it? Where is it is from?

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:06.439
<v Speaker 3>Yesually she got somebody fucking emails? God nay, yeah, day Okay.

0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 3>I think it's time meet or keep time or time

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 3>keep one of those things. But basically it's an app

0:54:11.320 --> 0:54:14.440
<v Speaker 3>where you and you will put in. You'll put in

0:54:15.719 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 3>like ask you questions like what your interests, you know,

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 3>how you identified you you? And it usually if you're

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:22.920
<v Speaker 3>in an area where they have it okay, like a

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 3>range of a region, right, And so for me, they

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 3>have it in like in like within fifteen minutes in

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:29.839
<v Speaker 3>my house, and so I put this information and then

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 3>it matches me with five different people. And then it

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 3>basically like we'll book a dinner for us somewhere and

0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:37.480
<v Speaker 3>we will meet there and as all strangers and like connect.

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:40.200
<v Speaker 3>So it sounds wild, but like like I'm gonna try.

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:41.800
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like fifteen bucks for one ticket and

0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:43.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, girl, I'll do it, like I'll see

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:45.719
<v Speaker 2>what happens. You choose a day, us the day and

0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:47.839
<v Speaker 2>see and we're like no, girl, like I'm done, I'm done.

0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Makes shake. I can find some good friends and like

0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:52.880
<v Speaker 2>let's see what happens. And I love that cause it's like,

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I heard about this. Do you watch

0:54:56.000 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Random Tangent? Do you watch Subway Takes? Yes, genius show.

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Can I just say that I'm actually gonna be in

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 1>New York and about two or three.

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Weeks if you're on that show, bitch, I would scream please.

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, if somebody is in New York, if y'all can.

0:55:11.560 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Get on the show, please it will be a wrap please,

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 2>cause that would be you have the hot take. I live,

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I Live. It's such a show. So there was one

0:55:21.160 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 2>person who said, there it was. It was it was

0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 2>an interesting hot take. Like they began by saying like

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 2>basically their thing was like we like we have to stop.

0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:36.239
<v Speaker 2>It was like cancel. It was like cancel, canceled reservations.

0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Basically like we have become two used to reservations, Right,

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:44.000
<v Speaker 2>so we become too used to requesting what table we want,

0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:47.640
<v Speaker 2>and we're at that we have we now like essentially

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 2>created more social anxiety for ourselves.

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:52.239
<v Speaker 2>We don't allow ourselves to be surprised. We don't allow

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 2>ourselves to like go into a place and like, okay,

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:57.960
<v Speaker 2>the wait waits an hour. Well then let's go and

0:55:58.120 --> 0:56:00.400
<v Speaker 2>like explore the area for an hour, then come back

0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 2>and see if our table is ready. Right, we all

0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 2>come in at six pm saying we're here in badman

0:56:04.560 --> 0:56:08.880
<v Speaker 2>mam exactly, you know, and so and and and and

0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:11.320
<v Speaker 2>koreem the host. At first it was like have person disagree,

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:12.279
<v Speaker 2>and then by the end of it he was like,

0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:14.320
<v Speaker 2>actually agree with you. It was really interesting. So I

0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 2>feel like, right, there's this there's this call. It's like,

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:20.880
<v Speaker 2>we build the technology to make lives easier and more convenient.

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 2>But there is a point in like, has a convenience

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 2>come at the cost of, like, our inability to be social,

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:29.720
<v Speaker 2>our on ability to like, you know, has been too convenient,

0:56:29.800 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 2>been has been being too convenient? Damage our ability to

0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 2>like hold empathy and hope perfective, it said, damage our

0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:38.239
<v Speaker 2>ability to like see people where they're at and be

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:40.960
<v Speaker 2>and being being community with others, and so this app

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:43.000
<v Speaker 2>sounds very fasting, So I'm gonna try that as well

0:56:43.040 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to report back. He went for me, there's a lot,

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I said, John, how about you?

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you know what tbh, I actually didn't really

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 1>want to say a lot this segment. So I'm glad.

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 2>I think he's awful.

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:57.959
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think they didn't really have a lot because,

0:56:57.960 --> 0:57:00.359
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I I struggle with them a lot,

0:57:00.400 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know this, like and I think I think

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a big part of it is I want to make

0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:05.520
<v Speaker 1>this very clearly because I think that there are probably

0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:07.880
<v Speaker 1>people who listen to the show that know me and

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 1>they're like, what the fuck is John talking about? They

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.400
<v Speaker 1>don't have community when they when I know you and

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:14.040
<v Speaker 1>I live in your area, you know, I live around you,

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and I see you are work with your blah blah

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. And what I'm what I'm what I

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>think I'm reveling with is and this is something that

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I've had to have conversations with some of my coworkers about.

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.440
<v Speaker 1>There's a certain feeling like the only way to really

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 1>explain it is you have to be from the inline Empire.

0:57:31.160 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 1>You have to be a black queer from the Illin

0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Empire to understand the feeling that I have because San Diego,

0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, San Francisco, like a lot of these areas

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:48.120
<v Speaker 1>where there's like a certain kind of gay there's community there, right,

0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:51.080
<v Speaker 1>But when you get into the ie, if you don't

0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 1>if you don't show up a certain type of way,

0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 1>or you don't look a certain type of way or

0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 1>do what other people do, then you're kind of cast

0:57:58.200 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 1>to the side. And so I think for me, it's

0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>been really hard because and I also say this too,

0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:05.200
<v Speaker 1>like I think there's also something and again I don't

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:06.520
<v Speaker 1>know if I need to go back to therapy over this,

0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:08.200
<v Speaker 1>this is something I need to work through. But I

0:58:08.240 --> 0:58:12.960
<v Speaker 1>also think too, like growing up in my mind, there

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 1>was this picture that was painted that by the time

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I was thirty nine and forty, i'd have friends knocking

0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 1>on my door, like Martin or like living single, where

0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I would always be with these four or five people.

0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:29.080
<v Speaker 1>We'd be having dinner, we'd be laughing, we'd be going

0:58:29.160 --> 0:58:31.160
<v Speaker 1>on trips, we'd be doing and I don't have that,

0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and so and it's not and it's not to you know,

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not a poor it's not a you know, boohoo

0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:38.080
<v Speaker 1>cry for John situation. I'll be transparent and saying no,

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I know that A part of that is I'm too

0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:42.000
<v Speaker 1>fucking busy. I know, I know. A lot off it

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 1>is this girl has a lot on her play and

0:58:44.360 --> 0:58:46.480
<v Speaker 1>she's doing a lot, and I don't really have a

0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of time to just sit around my apartment with

0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:51.120
<v Speaker 1>people and chit chat and have fun. But there's also

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a part of me that still feels like I'll look

0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:57.200
<v Speaker 1>around sometimes and I'll be like, I don't have anything

0:58:57.280 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 1>planned with any of my friends, and it feels kind

0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:02.440
<v Speaker 1>of like lonely. So I think a lot of it

0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>is again you have there's a certain type of growing

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:08.200
<v Speaker 1>up feeling you get being from the land Empire. And

0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I also say this for people who live in small towns.

0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:12.919
<v Speaker 1>You probably know exactly what I'm talking about. But there's

0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:15.200
<v Speaker 1>also this element of being a black queer in a

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:18.920
<v Speaker 1>small town that very much is like leaving to go

0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 1>to other big towns and other big areas. And oftentimes,

0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 1>if you're not that girl that's gonna get up and

0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:27.200
<v Speaker 1>drive to San Diego or Los Angeles every Saturday or

0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:30.440
<v Speaker 1>every Sunday or for brunch. You're pretty much as sol,

0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:32.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. So that's kind of where my mind was.

0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 1>So that was that was my way of me saying

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:36.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot, even though I said I wanted to say, I.

0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Was like, this is a lot. I mean, we got

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:39.040
<v Speaker 2>all to say what can need do?

0:59:39.160 --> 0:59:41.520
<v Speaker 1>So hey, you let me have you all think about

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the big sea word. We got to get a quick

0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 1>break to pay some bills so we can afford to

0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:48.080
<v Speaker 1>see community how long?

0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 2>And when we get back, we're gonna we're gonna get

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 2>into contuny of the things that we're gonna get into

0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 2>communion with the things that we love and we hate

0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:56.080
<v Speaker 2>back in just a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this week I'm gonna go ahead and put

1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:07.600
<v Speaker 1>my girl on the spot. You can go ahead and

1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:10.280
<v Speaker 1>go first, because I am trying to get my yes,

1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:11.400
<v Speaker 1>ma'am's my no man.

1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:16.240
<v Speaker 2>I hate you so much together, sut up. You see

1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:19.120
<v Speaker 2>the blank? You see the blank on my side? How

1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:19.640
<v Speaker 2>dare you.

1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Do this to me?

1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:29.000
<v Speaker 1>How did you do this to me? You? So?

1:00:29.160 --> 1:00:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay? So my man, Pam first and foremost a surprise gollagers,

1:00:32.280 --> 1:00:35.600
<v Speaker 2>because y'all bitches are doing the worst, doing the devil's work,

1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:37.240
<v Speaker 2>and I will tell the truth of him right now.

1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Y'all are nasty ass hose, jewishous, stink, broken ass things.

1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 2>And I can't wait to get your comeuppance. Y'all just

1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:46.120
<v Speaker 2>so evil, And I just I'm know, yes.

1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Did you see that? Did you see that TikTok? And

1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that man who called that man? There was a man

1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:54.760
<v Speaker 1>who I guess had put an apartment up for for

1:00:54.920 --> 1:00:58.960
<v Speaker 1>rent and was charging nine thousand dollars a month for

1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:01.960
<v Speaker 1>rent all all of a sudden, and they asked him

1:01:02.200 --> 1:01:04.160
<v Speaker 1>because I guess he said when he had checked it

1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the day before it was he hit And he was

1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:07.400
<v Speaker 1>like why and and.

1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:09.840
<v Speaker 2>The person was like because because because we know disasters

1:01:09.840 --> 1:01:12.320
<v Speaker 2>will make women make good money. Yeah, put his ass

1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:15.080
<v Speaker 2>on the last give us, give us the government name,

1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:17.200
<v Speaker 2>give us the name, let me know who I wash

1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:18.640
<v Speaker 2>up the door. But I'll be ready to go, girl,

1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:21.280
<v Speaker 2>let's go. Let's sorry to cut you off, but that's

1:01:21.320 --> 1:01:24.080
<v Speaker 2>what that period of period also say, no man, Pam

1:01:24.160 --> 1:01:24.880
<v Speaker 2>to carry underwood.

1:01:25.600 --> 1:01:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sad.

1:01:26.520 --> 1:01:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I will never I can't sing before he seats ever again.

1:01:29.280 --> 1:01:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm so sad she had Bob.

1:01:30.920 --> 1:01:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't even like that fucking song. You know what

1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:35.800
<v Speaker 1>song I love by her. She has a song called

1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Anywhere with You. People love us, love that goddamn song.

1:01:40.440 --> 1:01:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm loved because she Also she was supposed to drop

1:01:44.320 --> 1:01:47.320
<v Speaker 2>like this special that's be like over hit songs that

1:01:47.440 --> 1:01:49.240
<v Speaker 2>she was gonna sing. And I was like, I may

1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:52.680
<v Speaker 2>watch this and but and people have people have rumored

1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:54.360
<v Speaker 2>for years that she may not be, that she may

1:01:54.440 --> 1:02:00.479
<v Speaker 2>be a little you know, Trump, a little trum pet.

1:02:01.000 --> 1:02:04.320
<v Speaker 2>But but it was confirm and I said, oh no,

1:02:04.440 --> 1:02:06.120
<v Speaker 2>and she she was like, she's like, we have we

1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:07.800
<v Speaker 2>have to be unified. And I said, girl, fuck you,

1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:09.720
<v Speaker 2>you're not you were not quean with deep a girl

1:02:09.800 --> 1:02:12.200
<v Speaker 2>you and not ta No, that's not for you. Booth

1:02:12.280 --> 1:02:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that her.

1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Also fucked the with the y m c A people too,

1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:19.040
<v Speaker 1>because they perform it on Monday.

1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh they do? Huh they again? Is it them or

1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:23.520
<v Speaker 2>just the dude from the y m c A. It's

1:02:23.520 --> 1:02:29.200
<v Speaker 2>just all of them all singing that terrible as Also,

1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:32.040
<v Speaker 2>no man Pam to this band on TikTok. They're closing

1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:33.840
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday. I'm bad because I have friends who work

1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:35.280
<v Speaker 2>on TikTok. But I'm just saying I know they'nna be

1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:37.480
<v Speaker 2>pissed off they when they can't go into the jobs.

1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Word on the curb is I don't think we may

1:02:39.720 --> 1:02:40.160
<v Speaker 1>have to worry.

1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:42.400
<v Speaker 2>We may, we may not. There will depends. There's a

1:02:42.400 --> 1:02:43.600
<v Speaker 2>guy who said he buy it, but I know if

1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:44.280
<v Speaker 2>he's being serious.

1:02:44.640 --> 1:02:46.000
<v Speaker 1>And they're also saying that we're going to get a

1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:47.320
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and seventy day stay.

1:02:48.160 --> 1:02:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, so people are saying that the new president will

1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:54.360
<v Speaker 2>do this as his first thing to like make him

1:02:54.400 --> 1:02:56.080
<v Speaker 2>seem like it's for the people, and I just I

1:02:56.720 --> 1:02:57.800
<v Speaker 2>hate that very much.

1:02:58.560 --> 1:03:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Also that he'll undo all this to me what I did.

1:03:01.880 --> 1:03:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like girl, but so just trash to that. Yes, ma'am, Pam,

1:03:07.120 --> 1:03:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I will say. I was searching on the news channels

1:03:11.400 --> 1:03:15.920
<v Speaker 2>if i'd something to say yes about really got nothing.

1:03:16.680 --> 1:03:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's not like yes, ma'am to us for

1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:22.200
<v Speaker 2>being here, girl, because we could have said no, and

1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:22.840
<v Speaker 2>we said.

1:03:22.680 --> 1:03:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we really could have this week and it was

1:03:25.360 --> 1:03:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to even hold you. There was a moment,

1:03:27.000 --> 1:03:29.800
<v Speaker 1>there was a moment today where I almost text you

1:03:29.880 --> 1:03:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and said, bitch, can we record tomorrow because of the

1:03:33.200 --> 1:03:34.920
<v Speaker 1>way I was feeling, And then I said no, get

1:03:34.960 --> 1:03:37.400
<v Speaker 1>your black ass up. And go record, so that way,

1:03:37.600 --> 1:03:39.480
<v Speaker 1>it's one less thing you have to worry about while

1:03:39.520 --> 1:03:43.080
<v Speaker 1>you're traveling this week. So I hear you when I

1:03:43.200 --> 1:03:45.400
<v Speaker 1>tell you, Like as much as it may seem like

1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:49.640
<v Speaker 1>we're laughing and KEI king, it's just and like I said,

1:03:49.680 --> 1:03:51.240
<v Speaker 1>this is what I've been saying a lot of the

1:03:51.280 --> 1:03:54.920
<v Speaker 1>people in my circle. It's so hard to see like

1:03:55.440 --> 1:03:57.840
<v Speaker 1>it just it feels like since January first, like not

1:03:57.920 --> 1:04:00.960
<v Speaker 1>even January first, since December seventh, it has literally felt

1:04:01.040 --> 1:04:05.200
<v Speaker 1>like one thing after another every every day, back to back,

1:04:05.480 --> 1:04:08.000
<v Speaker 1>there's something else and I'm just going, I don't know

1:04:08.120 --> 1:04:11.120
<v Speaker 1>how much energy I can have. So I'm I'm I'm

1:04:11.600 --> 1:04:14.439
<v Speaker 1>very grateful for I guess I'll say that as my guest.

1:04:14.520 --> 1:04:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Part of my guest, ma'am is I definitely want to say,

1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:19.560
<v Speaker 1>so I'll start this way and then i'll end it

1:04:19.680 --> 1:04:21.560
<v Speaker 1>with what I'm what I was about to say, So

1:04:21.840 --> 1:04:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll say for me for this this week, I'm just

1:04:24.080 --> 1:04:26.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna it's a very simple guest, ma'am. I want to

1:04:26.520 --> 1:04:29.480
<v Speaker 1>shout out white people who are actually using their platforms

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<v Speaker 1>to do what's right. And what I mean by that

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<v Speaker 1>is is and it can show up in any way,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about one specific thing, but I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to shout out I have so. I was on

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<v Speaker 1>her podcast last week. Meredith Flinch has a podcast called

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<v Speaker 1>Ali Specific, And if you follow me on social you

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<v Speaker 1>know I've mentioned why that why me being on that

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<v Speaker 1>podcast was important. Go find my tweet or go find

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<v Speaker 1>my my post. You'll see what I'm talking about. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I what I do want to say is I've

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<v Speaker 1>learned that Meredith is not just using her platform to

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<v Speaker 1>further her platform, but she's helped several of black creators,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the bigger black creators that you know of,

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<v Speaker 1>she has had one that has helped them get to

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<v Speaker 1>the level that they are at, including Francesca Ramsey. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I definitely just want to say, like, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>when when white like, like I said, I've I've said

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<v Speaker 1>this over and over and again. I'm a huge fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of it. I can see I

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<v Speaker 1>can see their faces, but I cannot say the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast. I'm blanking because I'm tired, y'all. But

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to it every Tuesday, every Thursday. I've had it.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely wanted to shout out them, the women on

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<v Speaker 1>I've had it. They are constantly talking about black liberation.

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<v Speaker 1>They're constantly talking about, you know, the things that need

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<v Speaker 1>to be talked about, and I'm just I'm at a

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<v Speaker 1>place now where it's like you, I don't care about

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<v Speaker 1>you being a good white person. I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>do something. That's it. And when I say, do something,

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<v Speaker 1>that means anything to eradicate this and to make this

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<v Speaker 1>world better for people who look and live like me.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, Jesus, like, I know that there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of white people right now that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>give the side eye because I know for a fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they voted for that man. They have family who

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<v Speaker 1>voted for that man, and they could have done more

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<v Speaker 1>to get us to a place. But I'm also but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to spend my time like mulling over

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<v Speaker 1>that over and over and over again. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate the people who are actually doing good work, the

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<v Speaker 1>women and the men and the queers and the trans

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<v Speaker 1>people who are making space for people who look and

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<v Speaker 1>live like me and are saying I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do what I can to uplift you. So I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make that my yes man for this week,

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<v Speaker 1>my no ma'am. So I was reveling with a few

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<v Speaker 1>other things. But today as I was driving home for

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<v Speaker 1>running errands, this thought came to mind. Actually, while I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to the I've Hatted podcast, I wanted to say,

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<v Speaker 1>my no man, Pam this week, are maga people who

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<v Speaker 1>make maga their personality. And what I mean by that

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<v Speaker 1>is like the way I was thinking about it in

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<v Speaker 1>the car, Like the only way I can say it

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<v Speaker 1>is this, if you have if you if if being

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<v Speaker 1>a part of a group of of a sect of

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<v Speaker 1>people is the only thing, because I know someone would say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well you make lgb being lgbt Q your identity, you

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<v Speaker 1>make being black your identity. Well, nigga, that's who I am. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna talk about it, and I'm gonna create around

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<v Speaker 1>that and I'm going to move throughout this world because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get away from those things. Maga is a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>So you are making a belief system, a sect of people,

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<v Speaker 1>a sect of a group of things, you're a person

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<v Speaker 1>that that to me is what's scary. I'm gonna just

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<v Speaker 1>say it this way. I think the only way I

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<v Speaker 1>can say it so it makes sense to people who

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<v Speaker 1>are who might be listening, is that if you have

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<v Speaker 1>to being a part of a certain group of people

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<v Speaker 1>or a part of some type of organization your personality, Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a cult. I just I That's the only

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<v Speaker 1>way I can say it. If the if everything you

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<v Speaker 1>do comes back to that thing. And I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about I'm talking about anything. You're You're a

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<v Speaker 1>part of a cult, right. I don't make Beyonce my personality.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that woman to death. She can't do no

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<v Speaker 1>wrong in my eyes. But the reality for me is

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<v Speaker 1>is that that's not my whole personality. I'm so much

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<v Speaker 1>bored beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>Maga bumma stickers. There's this dude who drives in relevant Hillcrest.

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<v Speaker 2>This dude drives at least once a week in his

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<v Speaker 2>big ass pickup truck with four Trump flocks on his backwagon.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, what, just why, Like why.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a part of a cult. You've been you

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<v Speaker 1>have been brainwashed, because you're now letting this thing, these people,

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<v Speaker 1>this organization, whatever you want to call it, control the

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<v Speaker 1>way you think, control the way you move, the way

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<v Speaker 1>you treat people, the way that you respond to people like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just it's it's exhausting to watch. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm just in this place of like, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really trying not to let what's gonna happen in the

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<v Speaker 1>next four years bug me that much, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they want. They want us to be bugged.

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<v Speaker 1>They want us to stop talking, they want us to

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<v Speaker 1>shut down shop, they want us to go away.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going away. We're not going away as long

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<v Speaker 1>as we can, as long as we get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to plug this mic in every week to talk our

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<v Speaker 1>ship and to be strong and to be strong black

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<v Speaker 1>queer people. Honey, We're not going anywhere. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to say, like, I'm just sick of

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<v Speaker 1>people making that their personality. It's just it's what's the point, trash.

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<v Speaker 2>It's trash.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm over it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's all I got this week. Okay, Well, with

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, we're gonna have wrap up shop. Please

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<v Speaker 1>send us your thoughts, your feedback, and email to blackfetfepod

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<v Speaker 1>and disguise of Blue, the Skies of Blue. We are

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<v Speaker 1>over there using they hand no black fatfmpod. We are

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<v Speaker 1>no longer on ex exed. Lord, I'm already we are

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<v Speaker 1>no longer on X. That place in Elon Musk is

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<v Speaker 1>dead to us. So with that being said, Queen Jojo,

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<v Speaker 1>where can the dogs find you?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, loves as alway as you can find me

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<v Speaker 2>at Joehodanel's across All Socials or my website, girl, what's

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<v Speaker 2>my name? Nana said that real quick, I am screaming.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you can find me at Joe Hoo Dane's

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<v Speaker 2>across all the Socials or my website Jordan Daniels dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>If not there, you will find me. Know what you

1:10:53.439 --> 1:10:56.880
<v Speaker 2>will find me? Where will you find me? Girl? I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea because I have no where to be seen? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight a new episode of Traders is coming on, so

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<v Speaker 1>what know tonight? Tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow? Wait? I thought they came on a Wednesday on Thursday's. Baby,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching it tomorrow. Some shit, don't you worry? I

1:11:11.080 --> 1:11:14.519
<v Speaker 2>watched you. I should do bitch, you give me an idea?

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<v Speaker 2>I should be doing that girl, you'll find me take

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<v Speaker 2>my big mic everywhere on these streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, girl, Yeah, being out there with your with your microphone.

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<v Speaker 1>You should be interviewing people. Yeah, interview people down in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego about things.

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<v Speaker 2>No, so, I mean so so I just did this.

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<v Speaker 2>There is this queer Queer Professionals group and I just

1:11:35.760 --> 1:11:38.840
<v Speaker 2>did like a little thing with them where I ask people, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I want tell them my show because I want I

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<v Speaker 2>want no one stealing our ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>No, don't say it on the air. Don't sit it

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<v Speaker 1>on the air, because I'm telling you right now, somebody

1:11:46.360 --> 1:11:47.760
<v Speaker 1>will come out with your ship and then you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>mad as hell that you said it on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody will try to act like, oh, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know. I'm just like, just ain't came out with it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't. You stole it. People like to steal other

1:11:56.280 --> 1:11:57.880
<v Speaker 1>people's ideas. So don't say it on the air. But

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<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that you are getting into your content,

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<v Speaker 1>girly bag. I really'll it's more than I'll ever be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do because I am not a con like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not gonna be that girl that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to run out with the video camera and then

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<v Speaker 1>come back and edit it and put it up online.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all not gonna. I won't. I probably will never be

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<v Speaker 1>that girl, and I'm sorry. I'm kind of sorry about it,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of. But as for me, I'm what I will

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<v Speaker 1>do is I will write and there's a book that

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<v Speaker 1>you should buy, So head on down to the ww

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<v Speaker 1>dot doctor Johnpaul dot com. You can find me on socials,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can also find me on the corner telling

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<v Speaker 1>people and passing out fliers letting the girls know that

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<v Speaker 1>this book is coming out and you need to pre

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<v Speaker 1>order it because we are, what about around sixty something

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<v Speaker 1>days away from the release, and if you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>your pre your pre release, you're already doing a disservice

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<v Speaker 1>to black fat fems. Yes, I'm gonna, I'm gonna shame

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<v Speaker 1>you into buying my book. Buy my book. Otherwise, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>exclusively on Blue Scott and Instagram and threads. If you

1:12:59.760 --> 1:13:01.720
<v Speaker 1>try to find me on Facebook, good luck with that

1:13:01.800 --> 1:13:05.439
<v Speaker 1>because I rarely use it anyway. With that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to thank our producer By Wang for handling

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<v Speaker 1>all the logistics and everyone down to the I Halt

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<v Speaker 1>Media so keeping this show up and running honey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much room to keep the show moving

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<v Speaker 1>and going. We also like to shout out our wonderful editor,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Rogers, because without him, we wouldn't have no click

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<v Speaker 1>click click click. If that be no visuals, that'd be

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<v Speaker 1>no show. There'd be nothing in your ear for us

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<v Speaker 1>for you to listen to. It'd be a really sad day,

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<v Speaker 1>be a really sad day without Chris around these parts.

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<v Speaker 1>So Chris, we love you and thank you so for

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<v Speaker 1>all that you do for the Blackfefin Podcast. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been another show. Stay black Fat, feeling fabulous and what

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<v Speaker 1>show hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember we may not be your cup of tea, but

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<v Speaker 2>baby probably anyway it.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I know that's right. We'll see you next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Love us for real fight