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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely

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Speaker 1: ready for a break. Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, December twenty eight, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number ninety seven. Welcome to another edition. Happy Birthday, Derek,

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Speaker 1: Happy Birthday, Derek, going, Yeah, keep goingep going. I want

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Speaker 1: to hear the whole Daniels fanlies. Yeah, yeah, that's all

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Speaker 1: I got. Alright, there we go. Oh, now you got

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Speaker 1: the real one. Beautiful, beautiful Shanley san Ley fifty. Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm not far though, I am not far. I'm rounding that.

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Speaker 1: I'm rounding the corner Smith now, Yes, I'm forty five

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Speaker 1: years old man, rounding the corner to fifty. Huh. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know if it was out for Morris or I

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Speaker 1: can't even believe that. Like when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: when I thought about forty five or fifty, I was like,

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Speaker 1: that's so a grandpa. Yeah, I do not. You don't

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Speaker 1: feel old like so you're telling us like that, shut

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Speaker 1: up about twenty five and twenty nine. Yeah, exactly, you don't.

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Speaker 1: You have it, but you but I understand it, like

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Speaker 1: when you're eighteen or nineteen, you think twenty five is

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Speaker 1: yeah old, thirty is you know, and forty five geez wow,

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Speaker 1: yeah you're heading toward death, you know. So, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like that. I still feel just as young

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Speaker 1: and surprised I did when I was twenty well no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like when I was like thirty two. Man, I got

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Speaker 1: out of bed this morning. I I slept in and

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Speaker 1: I looked at it the phone, and it was like

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Speaker 1: derk Eagleton just completed a run. So hey, I got

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Speaker 1: to sleep in though before I got that run. That's

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Speaker 1: always a good thing, good for you. Family isn't in

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Speaker 1: town right now, so I actually got to sit and

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Speaker 1: watch in front of a fire, watched the Texas game

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Speaker 1: last night. They get a win, eat some good popados,

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Speaker 1: and man, it was a good evening. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: a great evening. It was like good evening. Family back today,

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Speaker 1: So then I get to celebrate with them tonight. All right,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk to what was that I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but you know what, it was a bad timing for

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Speaker 1: the really bad timing for that. I need to be

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Speaker 1: in my personal business, like I'll say it for myself.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some let's get some Cowboys football. UM.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about Dez Bryant. We talked a

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Speaker 1: little bit about this yesterday, but then the media got

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Speaker 1: to talk to Dez and it's pretty interesting. UM, I'll

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Speaker 1: just let's listen to what he had to say first

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Speaker 1: and then we'll kind of dissect some of that. I

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Speaker 1: think Ken has some of that audio pulled up. KI,

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Speaker 1: what do you have? Yeah, so I have. This is

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Speaker 1: the first cut when he was initially asked about why

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Speaker 1: around his locker for the next ten minutes or so.

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Speaker 1: All right, season, I feel like for the most part, um,

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Speaker 1: I can only I can only do what you know

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Speaker 1: I can control. Yeah, and a bitter times, hell, yo,

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Speaker 1: you know, frustrating, you know, you know, certain situations you

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Speaker 1: know that I couldn't control. But other than that, UM,

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Speaker 1: I believe who I am. I'm I'm a head of

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Speaker 1: a football player. I know that. I believe that. You know,

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Speaker 1: I let a lot of things get in a way

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Speaker 1: if anything, UM, I need to deal with an offseason,

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Speaker 1: you know, it is that. You know, just like I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, UM, only certain things I can control. That's it,

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Speaker 1: all right? That was des brian locker room yesterday. That

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Speaker 1: What control, control, what I can control? Know? He actually

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Speaker 1: did that go? But then said the same thing. He

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Speaker 1: so say it. I mean, like, what is it? What?

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Speaker 1: What can you control? Because really you're talking to a

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Speaker 1: So what else is there? You know? And is there

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Speaker 1: Are you pissed about the scheme? Yeah, I'm pissed about

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Speaker 1: yesterday on the air, Nick, when you were like, there's

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think you have to you

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Speaker 1: We're talking Cowboys were talking and Dez Bryant. Now we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about the Eagles game yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett says that the able body players will play

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Speaker 1: and there won't be a situation. This won't be a

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Speaker 1: situation where in the final game of the season he

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Speaker 1: sits starters in order to get young guys playing time

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Speaker 1: or to avoid potential injuries. What do you guys to

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Speaker 1: think about that? Just as a philosophy, what are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that? Dave? I know you're pretty pretty strong

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Speaker 1: the other way, What are your thoughts. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a bad idea. I think it's a potentially ruinous idea.

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Speaker 1: Really and all ooh, that's pretty strong. Go take a

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Speaker 1: look at And this was in a game that mattered,

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Speaker 1: This was in a game that had a lot of implications.

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Speaker 1: That's not my point. But Carson wentz towards ACL two

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, and now, I mean, you're in December, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about when's he gonna be ready? Robert Griffin another again,

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Speaker 1: a very meaningful game, a playoff game, but jeopardized his

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Speaker 1: whole offseason. You know that he was all in on

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Speaker 1: opening day. He never really got back to form. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tyron Smith's probably not going to play in

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Speaker 1: this game because he can't. So I mean, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: send your quarterback out there, You're gonna send your running

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Speaker 1: back out there without all pro left tackle protection in

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Speaker 1: a game that you stand to gain nothing from. There's

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't buy the momentum argument, because as

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Speaker 1: soon as this game's over, you're you're off for seven months.

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Speaker 1: I get I get that there's pride on the line.

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Speaker 1: I get that there's fans that paid money to see this,

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Speaker 1: but I just think there's too much to lose and

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Speaker 1: nowhere near enough to gain to just be willy nilly

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Speaker 1: throwing everybody out here, risking injury in a game that

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Speaker 1: ultimately doesn't add up too much. And I'm obviously mathematically

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Speaker 1: you can't sit every player on the team, but I

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Speaker 1: would go to great lengths to protect my good players

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Speaker 1: in this game. But does Jason run the risk? We

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Speaker 1: know because we're around here all the T shirts and

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Speaker 1: all the signs and everything that talks about maximum effort

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Speaker 1: every day, no matter what the circumstance, whether you're playing

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Speaker 1: on the Moon or you're playing at at and T

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Speaker 1: Stadium or wherever else. I mean, the point is that

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Speaker 1: what he preaches to them is every day, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: show up, and we're gonna because we're professionals, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: show up, we're gonna do our jobs. We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: it extremely well every single day. And does that chip

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Speaker 1: away at the message if he goes into a game

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Speaker 1: where he says, well, this game, by virtue of sitting

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Speaker 1: guys is not as important, so let's not worry about

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Speaker 1: as much, because that's really what the message is. If

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Speaker 1: you start saying, well, we're gonna decide who's gonna play

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Speaker 1: and who's not gonna play. I have my own thoughts,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna let I mean, if Nick has an

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Speaker 1: opinion on the wall, let him go. I definitely think

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Speaker 1: that that they should they should play. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's probably a way to do it like they did

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Speaker 1: last year's game, where you know, you're playing some guys

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Speaker 1: and kind of see how the flow of the game goes.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I still kind of feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Jason says it all the time. You know, you got

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Speaker 1: sixteen of these games, and and I think you are

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Speaker 1: trying to build towards next year, and especially with you

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Speaker 1: guy like Zeke that's been out six weeks, and if

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Speaker 1: you got a quarterback in a wide receiver that earned

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Speaker 1: on the same page, I mean, you know what what

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Speaker 1: better way to try to do that than then, you know,

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Speaker 1: play some football games. Would would an injury be be bad? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it would be it. But I think for the most part,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going out there, I'm trying to win

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Speaker 1: this game. I think that Jason needs it. I think

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Speaker 1: this team needs it, you know, And I just I

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Speaker 1: keep harping back on you don't get many of these opportunities.

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Speaker 1: This is and you said it, some of those arguments

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Speaker 1: that you said, I believe in. I mean, unless they're

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Speaker 1: gonna cut the prices of the game. You know, somebody's

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00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: Christmas present was to go to this football game, and

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Speaker 1: you know you're not giving them full effort if you

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Speaker 1: if you're not doing that, So I would play them

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Speaker 1: this game now if it got if somebody was banged

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Speaker 1: up and limping around, then no, I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 1: I understand that part. But Zeke's healthy. I think Zeke

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Speaker 1: should play. It's my opinion. Are you going to say

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Speaker 1: I thought about what really what you were saying it

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Speaker 1: is like, well the message is maximum effort and blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah. These guys are professionals in the other sense too,

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Speaker 1: Like if you can't separate, you should be able to

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Speaker 1: separate these two things, like you should you look at

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Speaker 1: this and say, well, this is this is a different situation,

558
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: like this is this this game has no implications. In

559
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: three hours, the season will be over on Monday morning.

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00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna go in the locker room and clean out

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Speaker 1: our lockers. Like I would like to think that you

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Speaker 1: can draw a line. You should be able to draw

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Speaker 1: a line between big difference between should and do right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're dealing with humans, you're dealing with people,

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Speaker 1: you're dealing you're dealing with professionals though, and I think

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Speaker 1: there you should be able to tell the difference between

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Speaker 1: like you're a professional football player and in some instances,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of an analogy for our careers.

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Speaker 1: But like, in some instances this makes sense. And like

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Speaker 1: I said, it's these guys are assets and it's asset management.

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Speaker 1: And I think you, you know, Dak Prescott might want

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Speaker 1: to play in this game as a competitor, but I

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Speaker 1: think he would understand fourth preseason Game of the Year absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I think I think he would understand if they were

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Speaker 1: like maybe maybe Dak. But I will tell you this,

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Speaker 1: and you say you want to draw parallels to just

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Speaker 1: our our careers, I mean the fact is you'd be surprised.

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Speaker 1: When you've got a group of people. There are always

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Speaker 1: people that you say they should know better or they

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Speaker 1: should understand this, and they don't because people are people,

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Speaker 1: and people are gonna draw whatever conclusion fits whatever narrative

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Speaker 1: they want it to be in their minds. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: draw that comcasion. I can't speak for a room full

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Speaker 1: of football players. But again, to draw an analogy to

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Speaker 1: our careers. Christmas Eve, they play like crap. They lose

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Speaker 1: by two possessions to the Seahawks to virtually end the season,

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Speaker 1: and the move, I mean, the line from our group

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Speaker 1: in the press box is like, all right, let's handle

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Speaker 1: our business, let's do what we gotta do, but like,

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00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: let's get out of here, let's go see our families.

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Speaker 1: Let's not kill ourselves the night before a holiday over

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Speaker 1: a game that has no I got I got my

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Speaker 1: work done, but it was not as it wasn't it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be what it was if we had won. It

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be what it was after a week one when

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Speaker 1: we beat the Giants. It's not the same amount of

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Speaker 1: We didn't do shows on Monday morning. It was a Monday,

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Speaker 1: but it's a holiday. But that doesn't mean we don't

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00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: work just as hard. You know that if they would

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Speaker 1: have won that game, we're not doing shows on Monday.

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Speaker 1: You know that. And you know we would have left

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Speaker 1: the press box at the same time out Definitely not

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Speaker 1: if we had won, definitely not. I left like an

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Speaker 1: hour and a half earlier than I would. The stories

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00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: were the same. Yeah, but there's more that we could

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Speaker 1: have done. Like I could have stayed. I could have

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Speaker 1: stayed to edit Brian's stuff in the press box instead

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Speaker 1: of going home like I usually do. Or I could

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Speaker 1: have you know, there's I could have written more blog posts.

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Speaker 1: But I do what I had to do. And here's

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Speaker 1: how I feel about this situation. You do play sixteen games,

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Speaker 1: that's your job. That you say about being a professional,

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Speaker 1: they're professional. You get paid to do so. Now being

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Speaker 1: sitting out of a game, to me, that's like a

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00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: privilege if you get to that point, not injury wise

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Speaker 1: or not that you're being inactive. You know, if we

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Speaker 1: get to this point to a game that doesn't actually matter,

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Speaker 1: but they don't. They shouldn't be getting rewarded or not rewarded.

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Speaker 1: You don't get that privilege. How do you have a

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Speaker 1: good season even though you're out of the playoffs, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: would be feeling good, like yeah, go ahead and sit down,

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00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: but they haven't, Like you can be okay, we're good.

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Speaker 1: Let's just prevent injury. First of all, that's your job.

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Speaker 1: You finish the season and that's it. They don't deserve

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Speaker 1: to sit out that is, haven't done what they needed

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Speaker 1: to do this season to get that is? That is

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00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: an admirable sentiment for like a high school team. This

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Speaker 1: is a billion dollar business and what's worth Like, is

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Speaker 1: it worse if you kind of admit this game doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean anything and you sit this guy down and it's

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Speaker 1: not like the fiercest spirit of the competition, Or is

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Speaker 1: it worse if Ezekiel Elliot tears his ACL in the

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Speaker 1: second quarter of a BS game eight months before the

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Speaker 1: season starts, and now we're sitting here speculating about if

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Speaker 1: he's going to be ready? Like, what way those two

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Speaker 1: things in your mind? And tell me which is really worse? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I think that that's the nature of football. The

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Speaker 1: nature of football is that guess what, when you got

639
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Speaker 1: to practice today, someone can share their ACL. So so

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Speaker 1: all I'm saying is if you're playing those games of

641
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Speaker 1: well this could happen, then in football you have to

642
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Speaker 1: get nothing done. We're having If you're gonna play football,

643
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: you gotta play for We're having the same argument we

644
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Speaker 1: had in the summer, right, which about training camp. Right,

645
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Speaker 1: It's obviously football comes with some inherent risk, right, but

646
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Speaker 1: you can mitigate those risks by not taking them. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you cannot mitigate those, Yes you can. They have to practice. Yes,

648
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Speaker 1: they have to play in the games when they matter. Yes,

649
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Speaker 1: they don't have to play in games that don't matter.

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Speaker 1: So that you only got forty six guys at whole

651
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Speaker 1: minutes of risk, that you're subjecting yourself too, that you

652
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Speaker 1: don't have to Yeah, again, I kind of agree with

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Speaker 1: Amber from the standpoint that you get. You're paid to

654
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Speaker 1: play sixteen weeks, and it's one thing if you've earned

655
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Speaker 1: the right to be hold on it's one thing if

656
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Speaker 1: you've earned the right to be able to sit because

657
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: you've gotten to the point where you've wrapped up everything

658
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: you can wrap up. You are the first seed in

659
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: your division. You're going to the playoffs. You've deserved, you've

660
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: earned a rest. They aren't going to the playoffs. So

661
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: play your sixteen games that you you haven't earned the

662
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: right to be able to sit and not play that

663
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: final game. And because of that, you got to go

664
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Speaker 1: out and you all gonna play, and you should want

665
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: to play, because again, you get sixteen of these every year.

666
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: And I get your point, Dave, I totally understand it.

667
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Speaker 1: And if we come back on Monday morning and knock

668
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Speaker 1: on Wood, one of the major players for the Cowboys

669
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Speaker 1: got an injury. It's gonna be like there will be

670
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Speaker 1: questions about whether he should have played. And I get

671
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Speaker 1: all that, but I still believe that Again, when you're

672
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Speaker 1: playing football, you have to understand that injuries are part

673
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: of the game and if you sustain one at whatever point,

674
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Speaker 1: I don't think you stopped playing the game because of

675
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: the risk of injury. You have to keep playing. You

676
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: gotta go through it. And if you get hurt, you

677
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: get hurt. You deal with that. And I'm sure they

678
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Speaker 1: all want to play too. Oh, I'm not questioning that.

679
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure they. I mean, Dak said, I'll be damned

680
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Speaker 1: if I let the season end on the note that

681
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Speaker 1: ended on Sunday. That's that's fine, and I expect that

682
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Speaker 1: from them. There are people above them. Again, Yes, these

683
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Speaker 1: guys are professional football players and they're paid to play football.

684
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: They're also they're paid to be assets for the Dallas Cowboys.

685
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Speaker 1: They are paid to make this organization money and win

686
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Speaker 1: football games. And in the big picture, I don't know

687
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Speaker 1: that them playing in this game is in anybody's best interest,

688
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: but I bet most of them will anyway, Like I'm

689
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: not like I'm gonna be wrong on this, Like Dak's

690
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: gonna play, Jason Witten is definitely gonna be out, like

691
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Speaker 1: and maybe they'll come out at some point during the game,

692
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: Like maybe they will play it like last week. That's

693
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Speaker 1: what I expect. I like, I expect Cooper Rush to

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Speaker 1: be in there in the second at some point. I'll

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Speaker 1: be surprised if he's not. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's

696
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Speaker 1: what I would expect. But either way, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I know that I'm on the losing side of this argument,

698
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Speaker 1: but I just I don't think it's worth well. I

699
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: don't remember last year when they've sent what seven eight

700
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Speaker 1: guys to the Pro Bowl, Like I don't remember that

701
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: conversation that we had. Maybe we did. I mean in

702
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: this game, do you hate the Pro Bowl as well?

703
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: Because the Pro Bowl? I mean, think about it. I mean,

704
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's another month that they're that they're playing

705
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: closer to the season. Now, are they going one hundred percent?

706
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not, but sometimes that could be even more dangerous.

707
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Speaker 1: I give them, I give the Pro Bowl a bit

708
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Speaker 1: of a pass because I've watched it and I know

709
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Speaker 1: that it's a joke compared to real football. But I mean,

710
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Speaker 1: if they wanted to scrap the Pro Bowl and just

711
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: take those guys to a dinner, I wouldn't give a

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00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: craplay right, the Pro Bowl dinner? No serious, Nobody likes

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl and like to play in it. I

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Speaker 1: give it a little bit of a pass because, like

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Speaker 1: I said, like I could say that, but they still

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Speaker 1: get decent ratings for that. Of course they do as

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Speaker 1: football I'm saying, so, so somebody likes it. I people

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Speaker 1: love to turn it on and talk about how much

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Speaker 1: they hate It's like that's it's It's like, okay, that's

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Speaker 1: what it's like. I can't believe people watch the old matters.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, I I would be I

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Speaker 1: would not mind scrapping the Pro Bowl. I I don't

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Speaker 1: worry about it as much as other things because it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's too hand touch basically for the most part.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but as we saw in the Pro Bowl volume,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Bowl, the Beach Rookie Pro Bowl Game?

727
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: What was that? What was the guy's name? The runner

728
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: Bert Robert Edward tears up his knee like it doesn't

729
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: take much as far as like touch or hit or whatever.

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Speaker 1: The fact is, if they're playing football, they're playing football.

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Speaker 1: Injury that's happen. That's why fights happening. It's a lot

732
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: just your training camp or whatever. Because one guy's going

733
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Speaker 1: one guy's going seventy five, and you know, in the game,

734
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Speaker 1: seventy five gets mad because you're going night. H Are

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Speaker 1: you going nine? Yeah? Because I'm trying to make the team.

736
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Speaker 1: And sometimes that happens in the Pro Bowl because you

737
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what level you get. This guy that's

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Speaker 1: there for the first time. Everybody about to show out

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Speaker 1: everybody's favorite memory of the Pro Bowls when Sean Taylor

740
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed that guy, Which it's a great it's a

741
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: great clip. But at the same time, you're like, dude,

742
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: you did that in an All Star game, Like really,

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Speaker 1: well the punter was it was a fake punt. Yeah,

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00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: so I just fake punt right, Hey wait, I mean

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Speaker 1: ball's football. John Taylor was one of my favorites ever.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, he could hit all right. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and take our final break. Would do

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Speaker 1: the Break Welcome Back. It is the final segment of

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Speaker 1: The Breaklock from the SWB see Mortgage Studios at the

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Speaker 1: Star and we're gonna get some questions from you guys.

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Speaker 1: also take questions on Twitter. Really good points, really good

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Speaker 1: point that I saw on Twitter just now, which, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles played all their guys for four quarters last

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00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: year in this and one and they won. Good for them,

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Speaker 1: and it propelled them. Is that? Is that what happened? Yeah? Okay,

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Speaker 1: it propelled them to a great offseason and a great

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Speaker 1: following season. I'm just saying it did they flipped with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Cowboys didn't play their guys and what happened

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Speaker 1: this year at those damn Cowboys. I knew there was

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Speaker 1: some reason. Look at all this now we figured it

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Speaker 1: out what it was, We got to the bottom of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what Mark Sanchez was still the quarterback in that game, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean at the end kind of yeah, did you see?

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, where's Mark Sanchez now Chicago? Did you see?

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Speaker 1: Did you see that video? I didn't see the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: I just saw it was really what do you say?

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Speaker 1: It's He actually did a hell of a John Gruden impression.

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Speaker 1: But he came up to he came up to Mitch Trubisky.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like before kickoff or

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Speaker 1: when it was before right before the offense took the field,

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Speaker 1: and he basically, in a very good John Gruden impression,

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00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: was like, remember game days, not the day to try

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Speaker 1: new stuff. He said a different word where he's like

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Speaker 1: same same footwork, same throws you've been working on all week,

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Speaker 1: Like just trust what you've been doing. And it was

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Speaker 1: it was funny because he did an impression. But I

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Speaker 1: was like, no, yeah, like Mark Sanchez was probably a

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Speaker 1: pretty good influence on old Dak when he was here.

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Speaker 1: If yeah, it was watching it, you should go watch it.

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Speaker 1: It was cool. Yeah. I saw it kind of in

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Speaker 1: passing and I saw him at the end he just

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Speaker 1: hit his helmets and let's go, you know, And it

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Speaker 1: was kind of cool. I mean, people people want to

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00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: give Tony Romo a lot of credit for being Dack's mentor.

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Speaker 1: Mark Mark Sanchez he was. I never heard that what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Fans want to give him credit for that,

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Speaker 1: you know, just because Mark Sanches couldn't play very well.

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Speaker 1: I think he got a bad rap. And I've heard

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Speaker 1: people that know him say how good of a person

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Speaker 1: he is. I don't know him personally, but I've heard

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Speaker 1: people say that. People that know him say he's a

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Speaker 1: like just no talking about the quality of person. He's

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Speaker 1: a really good person. We're not buddies or anything, but

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Speaker 1: he was always nice and friendly and professional. Yeah, Nick,

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Speaker 1: you have a read force. Yes go Sorry, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was prepared earlier than I threw it away. But

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Speaker 1: interested into this week's game because Dave was saying it

851
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter, but it's still is it a Tommy

852
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: John type of Sunday? You know, Oh, for sure, you'd

853
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: like to wait till Sunday for anytime, anytime you're gonna

854
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: be on a plane for more than like thirty minutes. True,

855
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: Tommy John is a good thing. It's trust me, it's

856
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: a Tommy John weekend. I mean, I'm not a man. Yeah,

857
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: tell me about it. Well, because it's just it's a

858
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: matter of comfort and so you're not having to squirm

859
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: around and you're the whole time like trying to adjust yourself.

860
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get it. Depends if you're gonna be

861
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: in one of those um first class like you were

862
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Every once. Now, hey, that's good.

863
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: Will you deserve it? With it a little bump with

864
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: a low of ten on Sunday. I'm gonna go get

865
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: some like thermal Tommy John DoD They have those. I

866
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, but you know where you

867
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: can find a little hot slash. I don't want to

868
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 1: be hot. No, No, that's the worst. You don't. Yeah,

869
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: that's the worst. That's not a good idea. The great

870
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: thing about Tommy The great thing about Tommy John is

871
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: that it breathes, right, you want to breathe? Yeah, yeah,

872
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: ye out sweaty sat all right, huh this is this

873
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: is really bad. Okay, let's get to some always does

874
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: it really does? Let's get some questions. We got a

875
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: call from Jeff in Indiana. Jeff, what hey, what's going on? Guys? Hey? Hey,

876
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 1: have you guys seen the NFL networks A Football Life

877
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: for Jerry Jones? Yes? Wow? Wow. I was born in

878
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, so I was only ten eleven years

879
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: old when I fell in love with this team, you know,

880
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: that early nineties, and I didn't get to follow this

881
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: team like I would have as an adult. But that

882
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: that little mini series there, that little documentary did a

883
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: great job of really illuminating what Jerry Jones is and

884
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: what he's all about. Made me respect him ten times more,

885
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: and wow, it was. It was just awesome. Many Cowboy

886
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: fans out there that have not seen that documentary, please

887
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: go see that. It's got me a whole new respect

888
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: for Jerry Jones. But he's got to get a new

889
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: coaching staff in here, guys. I'm sorry, I knew it was.

890
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys. I feel like Jerry and Stephen can

891
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: go get this coaching staff twenty two pro bowlers, eleven

892
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: on each side of the ball, and they'll fall away

893
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: half their careers. I'm sorry. You guys talk about it

894
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: every week or every year. You go on and on

895
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: about at the end of the year, how this coaching

896
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: staff did this and this and this. There's a ceiling

897
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: on these guys. I'm sorry. If we haven't seen it

898
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: in almost eight years now, we've seen it. It's it's over.

899
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: This coaching staff has a ceiling on this team. The

900
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: talent is above the ceiling of this coaching staff. This

901
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: coaching staff has a low ceiling. And that's just the

902
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: way I feel. We see it in the little things.

903
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: We see it in the time management, we see it

904
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: in the play calls, we see it in all kinds

905
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: of things. And it's hard to believe that there's this

906
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: much money in this league for those kind of positions

907
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: in this league, and there's not some young stud that's

908
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: up every night trying to figure out a way to

909
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: get dead Terrence, all these kids the ball. I'm sorry,

910
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: there's got to be somebody out there, there's got to

911
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: be some young hungry I mean, there's too much money

912
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: in this in these positions, guys. I mean, come on,

913
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: eight seasons and this is the kind of production we've

914
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: had in eight sets. I think getting kind of screwed.

915
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for the call, and I don't want to.

916
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: I purposefully save this. Yesterday I thought, let's get into

917
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: the talk on coaches, but I say not. Some of

918
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: the fans on Twitter gave me a hard time for

919
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: not talking about it. But I really think this is

920
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: a full show. I think this is a full show

921
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: to talk about the coaches, particularly starting at the head

922
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: coach and then moving on down And I actually want

923
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: to have that conversation next week when the season's done.

924
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: And I saved it. I purposely saved it. That's actually

925
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean like we're talking like the seasons over. Yeah,

926
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: And I honestly, but but I do think all those

927
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: conversations are going to be had next week, starting next week,

928
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: if they're not already. And I think there are some

929
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: some legitimate things that need to be talked about, not

930
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: just from the head coach, but getting down to the

931
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: coordinators and then get into some of these position coaches

932
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: as well. And I'm I'm personally not one that takes

933
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: slightly saying fire a guy. Like people think that this

934
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: is this is like a board game and you just

935
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: fire people and it's there are no repercussions when you

936
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: fire someone, even coaches, that means it them, their family,

937
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: their kids, you know, the whole nine. They got to

938
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: pick up and move somewhere else. And that's a big

939
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: adjustment for coaches. And I know they accept that as

940
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: a part of the coaching coaching lifestyle. But the fact

941
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: of the matter is, I think people take it so

942
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: lightly sometimes and I don't think it's a light thing.

943
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a light decision. And I also

944
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: like to give benefit of the doubt, for I don't

945
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: want to just just make this conversation about what's going wrong,

946
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: because if you're gonna talk about what's going wrong, you

947
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: also have to go back and talk about what when

948
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: wright a year ago, and that was virtually the same,

949
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: if not exactly the same coaching staff. So again, I

950
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: just wanted to throw that out there. We're gonna get

951
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: to that conversation and we're gonna go in depth with it.

952
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: I just wanted to save it till next week. I

953
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: don't know, if you guys have something you want to

954
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: kind of throw out, we're not ignoring you, we're not waiting.

955
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: I just want to wait because I think it's a

956
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: bigger I think it's a really big discussion. I really do.

957
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that because I'm not dying to talk

958
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: about it. So is that also because you look at it,

959
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: like you see these these coaches as people, and so

960
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: saying it's a little bit fire them is a much

961
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: more that's a much more serious thing than just saying

962
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: than I think fans sometimes think when they say fire

963
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: this guy, that's definitely about it. No, you can't see

964
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: it with that kind of mentality. I don't which kind

965
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: of mentality the whole like thinking about their families and

966
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: you know they are No, I'm sorry, no, no, no,

967
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: because okay, I'm sorry. That's just the reality of things

968
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: that I mean, you don't hire a person just because

969
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: of what But no, absolutely we do. But we do

970
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: like those fans, those fans, and yeah, I understand they

971
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: don't care. They don't care. They don't go through the

972
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: front of the plane, they don't exit on the front

973
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: of the plane. They don't see what we see. And

974
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: so we can sit here all day and say fire

975
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: this guy far like, it's a little different from our

976
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: stamp because we're walking right past the coaches all the time.

977
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: These coaches walk past our offices, and so we see

978
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: him as people and know how much they work, and

979
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: I get it. And they shouldn't really care about that

980
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: kind of stuff because they're making more money than they'll

981
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: ever make and they don't feel sorry for anybody like that,

982
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: even though they called. Last caller was sorry about a

983
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: lot of things, because he just kept saying, I'm sorry,

984
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: but but you're right about about the Dak and Lynn

985
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: Lenahan thing. I mean, I know I've said I think

986
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: they need a new play caller. I do. I have

987
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: said that they need new coordinators on both sides in

988
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: my opinion, But you can't ignore what they did last

989
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: year with Dak in that offense and getting him ready

990
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: because we thought at the time, we thought Dak was

991
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: one of the next superstars of the league. As it

992
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: stands right now, I don't know. I don't know where

993
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: he is. I think he's an average quarterback right now.

994
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: And I say that because if you look at if

995
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: you rank thirty two quarterbacks in the league, he's gonna

996
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: be sitting right around sixteen or seventeen. There's about fifteen

997
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: or sixteen that are better than him, and you know

998
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: which way is he going? Is he gonna go Russell Wilson?

999
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: Who've said this for two years? Is he gonna be

1000
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: kapit Neck or RG three? Is he going to be

1001
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson? Don't You don't know and right now we

1002
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, that falls into this Twitter question that

1003
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you guys, because I've been

1004
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 1: seeing it all over again and again since the game,

1005
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: you know, the whole question about Dak Prescott and where

1006
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: he's at and the future of this team and at

1007
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback position and comments in regards to you, should

1008
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys be looking for another quarterback? I've seen plenty

1009
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: of talk about mister Kellen Moore. I don't know why

1010
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: that's even coming up. I don't know if you guys

1011
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: have been receiving those kinds of tweets, you know, but

1012
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's ridiculous, but yeah, it's but anyways, comparing him,

1013
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, to him as anyways, should the Cowboys be

1014
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: looking for another quarterback or thinking about this and giving

1015
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: someone else another try, or keep obviously focusing on Dak

1016
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: and his improvement and growth. I mean, I think everybody's

1017
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,959
Speaker 1: it's out to lay out. I think that's a big

1018
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: no no no no, no, no no, no, no no no.

1019
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: I paused because I hate that we're talking about this.

1020
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, I agree with Nick, Like he's he

1021
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: has had a bad season by the standard of a

1022
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: team that's coming off a thirteen and three campaign. He

1023
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: has shown flaws. His accuracy is not amazing. His his

1024
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: mechanics can go to hell when he's worried about pressure

1025
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: and things like that. Like there's all kinds of of

1026
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: stuff that he needs to work on. I'm not trying

1027
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: to say he was great, um, but like to just

1028
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: to just act like this, like this is worth abandoning,

1029
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: like this is just some project that went awry, I

1030
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: just don't buy that at all. Um. I see how

1031
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: hard he works, I see how much he cares about this.

1032
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: I see his demeanor and his presence. And in spite

1033
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: of all of this, like I have all the confidence

1034
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: in the world that he's still a guy that can

1035
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: handle that type of scrutiny, that type of pressure. Blah

1036
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And on top of that, at

1037
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: times this year ie, when his running back and his

1038
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: left tackle were healthy, he looked pretty damn good. He

1039
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 1: was putting up numbers on par with what Carson Wentz

1040
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: was doing through the first eight weeks of the season.

1041
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry it is an excuse, but I'm not

1042
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: going to apologize for him being better. When he's got

1043
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: an all pro running back and an all pro left tackle.

1044
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: He is still a fourth round pick. That is what

1045
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: he is. If he was more talented, he would have

1046
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: gone in the first round. Like he's not Carson Wentz.

1047
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: That was never the argument, like people who try to

1048
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: turn it into this pissing match, Sorry for the language,

1049
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: like between those two. That was always a misguided It was, well,

1050
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: Dallas got a guy who's capable of doing this at

1051
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: a much lower cost. But Carson Wentz was easily the

1052
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: better prospect, Like everybody knew that. So for me to

1053
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: sit here, a guy that's in his second year, how

1054
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: many games as he started twenty eight, twenty nine, less

1055
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: than thirty or maybe that whatever, you know what I'm

1056
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 1: trying to say, thirty one, it's okay that he needs

1057
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: a good supporting cast to be good at this stage

1058
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: in his career. It really is, and it's so to

1059
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: be honest, it's okay if he's still fifteenth sixteenth when

1060
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: you start ranking him across the league. Absolutely at this

1061
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: stage of his career, and Russell Wilson was needed a

1062
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: lot of help his first two years. Literally some some

1063
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: wow I almost said something bad. Some but some jerk

1064
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: on Twitter the other day was like, Brady Rogers, Breeze,

1065
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: Ryan and Cam are all way better than him. I

1066
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: was like, of course they are. If they weren't, now

1067
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: we got a real storm, right what yeh. That's so stupid.

1068
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: It's so even again. I mean, it's like the Garrett

1069
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: argument when they they when people you know, get mad

1070
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: at Garrett for doing stuff and then it's like, look

1071
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: what what Belichick's doing. I'm like, okay, stop. I mean,

1072
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: don't compare some guy for the you know, even even

1073
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: Lebron every time. If you want to keep it more realistic,

1074
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: I would hope that Carson Wentz is better than he

1075
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: is based on what Philly gave up to get him

1076
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: where they did. This was never like if you thought

1077
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: Dak was the you know, most talented quarterback in the

1078
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: history of the world, and the whole NFL let him

1079
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: slip to one thirty five, that's on you. That's never

1080
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: it was about. It was about Dallas found a guy

1081
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: who can do the job at a really good Okay, okay,

1082
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: but they got to develop. They have to develop. But

1083
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: but hold on about that real quick though, that we

1084
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: need to at some point, we've got to bury that

1085
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: because I know this Tony Romo was not an undrafted

1086
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: free agent from Eastern Illinois. After about a year, that

1087
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: that's out the window. Now you're better about a year

1088
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: in playing, or about a year, and that's from playing.

1089
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: That didn't happen until that would be about year three

1090
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: or four. Understand, I understand. So I'm just saying that

1091
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: when you get to that point and you make great points,

1092
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: you're right. He's not Carson Wentz. Not there, not there yet.

1093
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: He's still learned, learning, he's still developing. But but we's

1094
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: getting to that point where we can't really make that

1095
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 1: excuse for him anymore. And I'm not saying you're making excuses.

1096
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we need to bury that a little bit.

1097
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: He started, he's gonna start thirty two games this year,

1098
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: and you know, I think he's I think he's tough

1099
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: as nails. I mean, I do I think he and

1100
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: I think he's the leader that you want on this team.

1101
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: Give him some more help, give him some more guidance.

1102
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: He to me, you can cue the teo, you know,

1103
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: clip all you want. He's the quarterback for this team.

1104
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean exactly, I mean he would be the quarterback.

1105
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. Do you draft a third or fourth

1106
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: rounder maybe, but you can do that just just to

1107
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: develop a guy as a backup so you don't have

1108
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: Cooper rushback there. And if you don't think he's the guy,

1109
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: but I think Dak should quarterback one hundred percent. Having

1110
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: said everything I said, I'll allow this. I mean, the

1111
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: honeymoon's over. Like you wondered how long it would last,

1112
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: it's over now with the fan base, if not the organization.

1113
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: I think I think anybody inside this building still has

1114
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: all the confidence in the world in Dak Prescott. But

1115
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: you had a year that was up here and a

1116
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: year that was kind of down here. And I mean

1117
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: year three is going to be huge because I think

1118
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: if you don't see significant signs that he's trending upward

1119
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: at the end of year three, then I think this

1120
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: is a more legitimate conversation. I guess my point is

1121
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: I haven't seen enough in year two that scares me

1122
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: that he's not going to be trending up. I just

1123
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: I have all the confidence I would like to give him.

1124
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever said this. I'd like

1125
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: to give him like a speed receiver or something to

1126
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: help him a little bit. Maybe, Yeah, just somebody that

1127
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: can go. That's a new idea. Hey, they signed him

1128
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: that a little bit. So they signed a guy on

1129
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: the practice squad Katie Cannon. Oh, that's a guy from Baylor. Hunh.

1130
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: He can go. Now, some issues now, he's had some missues.

1131
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 1: You can't cuss out. He can run. The sound coaches

1132
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: is not good. It's not good in this league. But

1133
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: he can definitely run. Let's take a call from Robin Vegas.

1134
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: Rob what up? Hey? Guys? All right, all right? Now

1135
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: you stick with Dak So you know, he kind of

1136
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: reminds me of Alex Smith. He's athletic. Maybe not the

1137
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: greatest on them, but I think you could win with him.

1138
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: Do you need more pieces around him than obviously and

1139
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers of course, but you got him in the

1140
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: fourth round and think about Yeah, the Eagles got Wentz,

1141
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: but we got we got Dak and Zeke for the

1142
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: same price pretty much, so I think we made out. Okay.

1143
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: You know, I was listening to that call of talking

1144
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: about Jerry Jones, and you know I watched that show too,

1145
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: but I had a little different take. When Jerry Jones

1146
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: brought the team, he was a young man, he was,

1147
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, like he said, he put all his money

1148
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: in and what did they do. He went out and

1149
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: got the best coach available and Jimmy Johnson who won

1150
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: a national championship, and he used Jimmy. Jimmy built the

1151
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: team for him and then he said, okay, you're out.

1152
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't need you anymore, and then kind of muddled

1153
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: around with head coaches and then didn't hire another real

1154
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: coach until Bill Parcels when he needed a new stadium,

1155
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: because he figured, I can't I can't have this coach

1156
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: and this record with this new stadium gets Bill Parcels

1157
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: gets his new stadium and then goes back to these

1158
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: average coaches. I think Jerry Jones got used to be

1159
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: an average I mean think about it. And ninety five

1160
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: the team was worth two hundred and thirty million, and

1161
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: now it's worth over four million dollars average. Let's let's

1162
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: let me back up for it with you for just

1163
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: a second and hold on the line. I think you're

1164
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: rewriting history a little bit there. I don't think at

1165
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: the time when he hired Jimmy Johnson, Jimmy Johnson was

1166
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: the best, as most people would put it, the best

1167
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: coach available. Now, hold on, hold on, no, no, no,

1168
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: let me finish. At the time, remember, this was in

1169
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: a world where buy and large college coaches did not

1170
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: have success in the NFL. So him going to get

1171
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: a guy that was a college coach, no matter how

1172
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: accomplished he was. On top of the fact that, let's

1173
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: remember that it probably there were probably people at that

1174
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: time and I was saying, this is all about the

1175
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: fact that this was his college roommate and his college teammate.

1176
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: That's why he's hiring. This has nothing to do with

1177
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: the best coach available. So I think that's rewriting history

1178
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: to fight a narrative. Hold on, hold on, hold of that, Jesus,

1179
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: hold on. I think that's rewriting history a little bit

1180
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: to fit a narrative that now we think because Jimmy

1181
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: Johnson was it was a really good coach for the Cowboys.

1182
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: Now you're kind of rewriting that. I don't think that

1183
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: was a narrative at the time. I think at the

1184
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: time it was probably considered to be a sophomore move

1185
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: by a freshman owner. Well, I think you're partially right.

1186
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: I also think, let's face that, Jimmy Johnson wasn't some bum.

1187
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he did win a national championship. I think.

1188
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm trying to say is I think

1189
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: the Jerry Jones of thirty years ago would not have

1190
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett as as his head coach. I think the

1191
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: seventy seven year old Jerry Jones being worth so much money,

1192
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: and let's face it, his team is the most popular.

1193
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: They're always on TV. His memory, he's never suffered from

1194
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: being average, and think about it, since ninety five, I

1195
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: think they're like thirteen games over five hundred. So that's

1196
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: all I'm trying to say. So we talk about firing

1197
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: Jason Gett. You guys know, I'm not a Jason Garrett fan,

1198
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: but I think he surrounds himself now he looks at

1199
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: it like, you know what, I like coming to the

1200
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: office and being around people I like, And I think

1201
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: that's I'm not saying he doesn't want to win. I

1202
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: just don't think he has the hunger time like it

1203
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: used to. All Right, thanks for the call, I think again,

1204
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: I think that is a very I think that's the

1205
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: kind of comment that you would get from a fan

1206
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: who's and it's no fault of his own, that's looking

1207
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: from the outside in. I don't think and I've never

1208
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: been around another owner because I've only worked for the Cowboys,

1209
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't think there are a lot of owners out

1210
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: there that put as much into trying to win as

1211
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: Jerry does. I know in listening to what other teams

1212
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: say about their ownership and how much they are involved,

1213
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: and I have colleagues around the league. I know for

1214
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: a fact Jerry puts more time into his team than

1215
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: probably any owner in the league. I don't buy the

1216
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: idea that Jerry is okay with being average. And I

1217
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: know from the meetings that I'm in that winning is

1218
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: everything to this man, and just because he hasn't gotten

1219
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: there doesn't mean it's not important to him. It means

1220
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: that it just hasn't worked out for him. I know,

1221
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: we gotta go and a man, and I wasn't even

1222
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: here for this, but like didn't. Jerry just used to

1223
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: have the worst reputation for being like impulsive and just

1224
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: doing anything he could, no matter how desperate or illogized

1225
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: it was, to get ahead because he just wanted to

1226
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: get a win out. I'll you just try to get

1227
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. He got murdered for that. So now

1228
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: hear it like flip around and hear him getting murdered

1229
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: for being too complacent and comfortable with being average. Like

1230
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: it just sounds like one of those classic you can't

1231
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: win well. He's learned over the years that you can't

1232
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: just just turn coaches around and coaching staffs around. I mean,

1233
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: you need that consistency. And some of the best teams

1234
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 1: out there are consistent with their coaches. They they've kept

1235
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: them there. They know it helps the scout, it helps

1236
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: you draft when you know what everybody's on the same

1237
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: page and you can't just flip the script every every

1238
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: couple of years. Now, I get it. And we've been

1239
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: at seven years or so with with Garrett, and he's

1240
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: got to prove here at some point, like I agree

1241
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: with that idea good Garrett, Yeah, yeah, I mean he's

1242
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: got he's getting to that point where it's like, Okay,

1243
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: now you gotta kind of do it right. Yeah, I agree,

1244
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean he definitely does. I mean you could make

1245
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: the argument. We could sit here and make the argument

1246
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: one way or another, but I don't. I think that

1247
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: Jerry has learned that that just turning coaches just be

1248
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: because you want to and you wanted to get something better.

1249
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 1: You look around the league that doesn't that's not really

1250
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: a recipe for success. So I'll see, all right, guys,

1251
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us. I remember we are going to

1252
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: get back to that conversation on coaches. I will definitely

1253
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: bring that up. That'll be as part of our show

1254
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: next week. Until then, for Nick even Dave Hellman Amberg.

1255
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: See I'm Derek and this has been The Break live

1256
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,000
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01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,600
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