1 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Patriotism. It's a good word, isn't it. It's a word 2 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: you like, it's a word I like. What is it? 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: More importantly than what it is? Why does it matter? 4 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Why is it important? Well, first of all, let's acknowledge 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: our current situation in this country's before we get to 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: why it matters. Let's acknowledge the situation. It's going away. 7 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: We know that in survey after survey after survey after survey, 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: Americans are less patriotic. You see the numbers right there, 9 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, seventy percent, all the way down to 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: thirty eight in this year in dropping, dropping and dropping quickly. Okay, 11 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: why is it dropping? Well, it's important before we get 12 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: to why it matters, it's important to understand it's not 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: dropping for no reason. No one can figure it out. 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: It's dropping because there's a very very focused effort, an 15 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: extremely focused effort by democrats, the education system, Hollywood, entertainment, 16 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: every cultural institution now is actually focusing on crapping on 17 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: America and taking patriotism away. Don't believe me. Here's a 18 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: few examples, here's s cuomo. 19 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: We're not going to make America great again. It was 20 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: never that great. We have not reached greatness. We will 21 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: reach greatness when every American is fully engaged. 22 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: Of course, it was never great. Of course, I don't 23 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: think that was some kind of one off. Rafael Warnock 24 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: has shoot. The whole show could have been about him. 25 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: He's got a doozy here. 26 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: I don't No matter what happens next month, more than 27 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: a third of the nation that would go along with 28 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: this is reason to be afraid. America needs to repent 29 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: for its worship of whiteness on full display. 30 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Repent for the worship of whiteness. Of course, it's not 31 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: just the governor, it's not just the senator. The President 32 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: of the United States of America used his State of 33 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: the Union address to crap on the place. 34 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: We've all seen the need in justice on the neck 35 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: of black Americans. 36 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Now's our opportunity to make some real progress. And it's 37 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: not just politicians. As I mentioned, it's entertainment. And it's 38 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: not just entertainment, it's entertainment for children. The real reason 39 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: patriotism is dropping is because they're going after children. Here's 40 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: a little serve from the show, Proud Family. 41 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: This country was built on slavery, which means slave built 42 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 4: this country. 43 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 5: Til this land from C to C to sea. First 44 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 5: it was rice, tobacco. 45 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 6: Sugar cane. 46 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: When he did his dang it can be king can 47 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 3: and we were at soldiers four million strong fighting for 48 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: America's freedoms, even though we remained America's slaves build this country. 49 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: The descendant of slaves continue to build this Slaves build 50 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 5: this country. 51 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the idea. Now there's a focused effort 52 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: to destroy patriotism. They want to burn the country down. 53 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: You you probably read about this in the anti Communist 54 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Manifesto that's available at Jesse kellybook dot com. But you 55 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: you don't want them to burn the country down. And 56 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: that's a problem. You see, the people have to agree 57 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: that the country sucks. And so what you do is 58 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: you start hammering on them over and over and over 59 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: and over again, telling them all about how bad the 60 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: place is and America is evil, in America's racist, that 61 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: America has never been great, in America has never been this. 62 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: And if you can get that message beaten into the 63 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: heads of enough people out there, which they are clearly 64 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: succeeding in doing, eventually those people will not just step 65 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: aside while you burn it down. They might help you 66 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: light the match. But why does patriotism matter? Why is 67 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: this such a disaster. Well, we've used this example before, 68 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: but it's easy for me to understand. So that's why 69 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: I use the example. I want you to picture something. 70 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: Set America aside, forget about America for a few minutes. 71 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: I want you to picture you, Emmy, we live in 72 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: a village. There's one hundred people in this village, all right, 73 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: and this is a village in Africa. All right. So 74 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: we're a village in Africa. What do we do. We 75 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: have cattle. We obviously grow some crops so we can eat, 76 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: you know. We have our little huts and whatnot. And 77 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: we have a village. It's our community, it's our society. 78 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Now picture this. There's one hundred people in the village, 79 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: and let's say eighty ninety of those people they love it. 80 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: They appreciate it. They like the village, they appreciate the community, 81 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: they appreciate the values. They're happy there. They love their history. 82 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: We've got a great history in our little village. And 83 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: so what happens when you have a high percentage of 84 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 1: your village that loves the village, Well, everything is better. 85 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: More people, better people will participate in the governing of 86 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: the village, you'll get more people who will volunteer to 87 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: work with the children of the village. And when they 88 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: work with the children of the village, they will explain 89 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: to those children how wonderful the village is and how 90 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: blessed those kids are to live in that village. We 91 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: have a village full of patriotic people. When you walk 92 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: by the cattle pen where we keep the cows and 93 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: you see a fence post is broken, Oh no, it's 94 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: our village, it's our cows. I love this village. Hang on, 95 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: let me stop what I'm doing, let me repair the 96 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: fence post. Oh hey, we need extra water. I volunteer. 97 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: Love my village. I'll go get some water. You see 98 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: what I mean. Now, eighty ninety people working like that 99 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: will make the village better and stronger because they love it. 100 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: And that's why patriotism matters for that village. But let's 101 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: go the opposite way. Where are we at now in America? 102 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: Thirty eight percent thirty eight percent patriotism. So let's take 103 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: that to the village. Most of the people, or the 104 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 1: majority I should say, of the village over sixty percent, 105 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't think it's special. In fact, 106 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: they think it kind of sucks. Village got all kinds 107 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: of racism in its history, never been equal. It's kind 108 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: of ugly. Just not a place that they enjoy. They 109 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: don't even like the values of the village. These people 110 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: in their old fashioned values. So now when you have 111 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: a village like that and you walk by that fence 112 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: post with the cattle, the fence post doesn't get fixed, 113 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: does it. You look at that fence post, not only 114 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: do you shrug your shoulders and say it's not my problem. 115 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: You might kick down another post or two. After all, 116 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: the village sucks, doesn't it. Oh, we need more water? 117 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: Sounds like a personal problem. I'm not thirsty. Someone needs 118 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: to help out the children, guide the children. Why would 119 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: I guide children in this garbage village? Now, over time, 120 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: what would that do to the village? It would destroy it. 121 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: Patriotism it's not a weird thing. It's not something we 122 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: should roll our eyes about. It's not some dumb cliche. 123 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: Patriotism is everything. It is critical for the country, and 124 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: it's something that should be pushed by all of our 125 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: cultural institutions. Your cultural institutions should be focused on making 126 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: patriotic Americans. And this makes people, even some people on 127 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: the right, uncomfortable when they talk about something like school. 128 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: I just want them to learn reading and writing and arithmetic. No, 129 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: I want them to learn about America and how wonderful 130 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: America is in America's values and the values of freedom. 131 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: I want them to learn about God and school, family. 132 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: These things should be being pushed by every cultural institution, 133 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: from the schools to the movies, to the president, to 134 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: politicians of both parties. It should be the norm to 135 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: talk about America's greatness. But we don't have that. And 136 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: because we don't have that, we are feeding people, not 137 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: just young people, all people. We are feeding people in 138 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: this country ugliness, and it's destroying us. You do remember 139 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: when Saint George Floyd died, right, It wasn't just the 140 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: Saint George Floyd death. That wasn't really what hit me. 141 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: What hit me was how wide spread the America Sucks 142 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: protests went after that, not just talking about professional athletes 143 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: catching a knee. I mean, in city after city after 144 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: city after city, you saw legions of people who agreed, Yeah, 145 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: this place does suck. Let's burn it down. The lack 146 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: of patriotism hit me then harder than it ever has. 147 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: It opened my eyes, and it's a big deal and 148 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: it's something we need to reverse. You have to start 149 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: at home with that. Remember, we have to start with 150 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: our own kids, in our own house, and we focus 151 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: on our community, our town, and Lord Willing will save 152 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: the country. All right, all right? We got Dave or 153 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: Boy next. He talks about us being a late stage republic. 154 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: What's he mean by that? Does patriotism or lack thereof 155 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: have something to do with that? Well? Ask Dave next? 156 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: Joining me Now, my friend Dave or Boy, he's the 157 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: one who coined the phrase late stage republic, or at 158 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: least he's the one who I got it from, and 159 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: he has an outstanding substactic Dave. Okay, patriotism is not 160 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: a small thing. I know a lot of people roll 161 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: their eyes at it. It sounds kind of hokey, oh gosh, patriotism, 162 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: but it's it's critical for a nation, and losing it 163 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: is part of the reason we're losing this place, isn't it. 164 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? I agree with you completely. I think the the 165 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 5: impulse to be patriotic, to love one's own is something 166 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 5: that's deeply human and it's also something that is you know, 167 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 5: because it's deeply human. It's not going anywhere, and and 168 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 5: we are in I mean, unfortunately, we're in a really 169 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 5: bad situation. As you know, I'm sure you you say 170 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 5: every day, which is that you know, in order for 171 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 5: this country to to remain to be lovable by a 172 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 5: lot of Americans, it needs to adhere to you know, 173 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 5: something that you know, something that that appeals to, uh 174 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 5: to to that vast majority of the people. Now, I mean, 175 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 5: I'm in the in the position where I just say, look, 176 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 5: I'm not even going to argue about, you know, the 177 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 5: left's idea or the left's conception of what is the good. 178 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 5: We have another one we can We can argue about 179 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 5: it all day long. Obviously I have my you know, 180 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 5: my preferences, You have your preferences, But at the end 181 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 5: of the day, we need the most important thing, I think, 182 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 5: is to recognize that these are really two totally competing systems. 183 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: You just saw it today with the with the affirmative 184 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 5: action ruling. Folks who are coming at it from I mean, 185 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 5: there's there's no middle ground. Really, the folks who are 186 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 5: coming at it from left and right have two completely 187 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 5: opposite not uncompatible ideas of what justice means. And you know, 188 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 5: that's that's where we are. That's the big picture. And 189 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 5: if and I mean patriotism is is important, and we 190 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 5: all kind of, you know, lament the fact that you know, 191 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 5: lament the fact that that we don't have it. And 192 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 5: I think the larger thing is the reason why we 193 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 5: lament it is not because we feel you know, a 194 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 5: sort of kind of vague, vague you know, patriotism, like hey, 195 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 5: I would love for it to come back the same 196 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 5: way that we were patriotic, you know, when we grew 197 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 5: up and things were good and all that. I mean, 198 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 5: that's that's true, but that's on the surface. But underneath 199 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 5: all that is is the idea that we know that 200 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 5: a nation cannot survive if it's people don't want to 201 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 5: fight for it, don't love it, don't don't respect it. 202 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 5: And you know, we're in a we're in a place 203 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 5: where that is getting hollowed out from the left end, 204 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 5: from the right. 205 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: Frankly, Dave, I want to actually ask about this. I'm 206 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: glad you brought this up, because let's let's take a 207 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: different angle on it from the rights angle, because we 208 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: have always been the patriotic ones. It's no mystery. Democrats 209 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: have hated this country for a very very very long time. 210 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: Now they really really low the place. You see an 211 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: American flag flying at someone's home, that's not a Democrat 212 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: so much. I'm sorry I've knocked on doors. It's just true. 213 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: A Democrat doesn't live there because they don't fly the flag. 214 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: But as we turn into a country I call it 215 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: the US of Gay, just tongue in cheek. But as 216 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: we turn into a country that is very very different, 217 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: and our government has values that are not mine, they're 218 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: not yours. Our culture has values that are not mine, 219 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: they're not yours. Our education system Hollywood, as we turn 220 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: into a place that you and I probably don't love 221 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: as much. Does that mean we're no longer patriotic? Are 222 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: we a different kind of patriotic patriotic? What does it 223 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: mean for us? 224 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 5: Dave, Well, there's no answer to the question that says, well, 225 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 5: that means that, you know, that means that we just 226 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 5: lose our impulse for patriotism, especially for those of us 227 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 5: who are on the right, that's not going away. We're 228 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 5: always going to love one's own, We're always going to 229 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 5: want the best for one's own. It's just a matter 230 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 5: then of how you define it. So I mean, I've 231 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 5: said for a long time that the old sense of 232 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 5: patriotism that many of us had for America should be 233 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 5: transmutated into Florida or Texas or you know, or the 234 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 5: red states that we live in. And I know you 235 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 5: say this all the time, as do I. You know, 236 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 5: get yourselves packed up. If you live in a blue 237 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 5: state and move to be around people you know who 238 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 5: you would you know, you would like to fight alongside 239 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 5: as opposed to fight with. And I mean I don't 240 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 5: say that for I mean I say that about about 241 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 5: anyone living in any country. Wouldn't you want to do that? 242 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 5: Doesn't that make more sense to you? And and replacing 243 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 5: you know, our old conception of America with let's say, 244 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 5: I mean in my case, Florida is the place that 245 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: I think of, you know, Florida has all the attributes 246 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 5: that I think of when I think about my patriotism 247 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 5: for you know, for kind of the old United States 248 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 5: or Red America. And that's just where we need to 249 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 5: go as as where we need to go as a 250 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 5: as a country, because as I said, we're not losing 251 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 5: this impulse to uh, you know, to to want to 252 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 5: you know, I love the people who you know, we 253 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 5: agree with, who we identify with as one. 254 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: People, Dave, How did it draw so quickly? I read 255 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: a little poll, a little chart. At the very beginning 256 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: of the show nineteen ninety eight, seventy percent of Americans 257 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: said patriotism is very important to them. Just fast forwarding 258 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: to this year, that's down to thirty eight. That's a 259 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: very rapid drop in just twenty years. Twenty years is 260 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: not a lot of time. That's that's nothing. That's a 261 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: snap of a finger, and that's significant. How did that 262 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: happen so fast? 263 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 5: Well, it's it's the polarization, you know, it's it's the 264 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 5: fact that people are realizing that, yes, we do, indeed 265 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 5: have two completely contradictory, mutually exclusive, you know, sets of 266 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: values or let's say, understandings of justice and end of 267 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 5: the world and what we want from government and what 268 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 5: we want from each other. And increasingly, you know, the 269 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 5: way even the way we see reality. You know, are 270 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 5: men men or women women of you know, things like that, 271 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 5: which are which were truths that you to be kind 272 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 5: of outside of politics, that we would all agree on. 273 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 5: So once we agree with. Once we agree on nothing, 274 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 5: it becomes very hard to sustain a sense of patriotism. 275 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 5: And you know, that's that's where we are. I mean, 276 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 5: I think it's so low because you just had four 277 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 5: years of Donald Trump, so you had you had the 278 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 5: Left saying no, this is not my idea of America. 279 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 5: And now you've got, you know, three years of Biden, 280 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 5: so you have the rights saying no, this is not 281 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 5: my idea of America. So I mean, the long and 282 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 5: the short of it is, it's only going to get worse. 283 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't disagree. That sucks, but I don't disagree. 284 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: So can we get it back? Is that even something 285 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: that's possible, because it doesn't sound to me like you 286 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: think it's possible. And I'll be honest, I agree with you. 287 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that it's possible. Is it possible? 288 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's fine. I mean, I don't 289 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: think it's possible. I think it's a it's a fool's 290 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 5: Errand it would require us to wake up one day 291 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 5: and all of us believe the same things, and you know, 292 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 5: half the country to lobotomize itself and uh and and 293 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 5: and give up the things that it holds dear the 294 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 5: way it understands the world, and that's just not going 295 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 5: to happen. I often think, and and I'm sure we've 296 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 5: even spoken about, had nine to eleven happened, you know, 297 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 5: yesterday or today, what would happen? You know, the country 298 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 5: would not come together. It would actually come apart. Why 299 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 5: because we would have, you know, more than just more 300 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 5: than just having being at each other's throats, we would 301 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 5: also have two very completely different opposite readings of what 302 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 5: just happened and who is culpable? And what is you know, 303 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 5: what is going on? And that doesn't you know that 304 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 5: that doesn't produce harmony at the at the snap of 305 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 5: a finger. And I don't even think harmony. I don't 306 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 5: even think that kind of harmony can be coaxed, you know, 307 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 5: from from inside or from without. 308 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: Can a nation of this size even have harmony? Or 309 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: is that just not something that's really possible? David, I 310 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: realized that we've been this size for quite some time, 311 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: but we haven't had this many people for quite some time. 312 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: Are we just are we too big to be that 313 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: tight knit little village? I think so? 314 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 5: I think the the I think it's very difficult or 315 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 5: I would say impossible for a large, multi ethnic empire 316 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 5: based on the political ideology to long sustain itself when 317 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 5: it comes to you know, when it comes to the 318 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 5: direction it's going. I mean, the nature of people say 319 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 5: America is an idea, like, okay, that's fine. What happens 320 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: when people no longer believe in the idea, or half 321 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 5: the people believe in a derivation of the idea, or 322 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 5: that our understandings of that idea change over time. It's 323 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 5: very obvious to me what happens, which is that you 324 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 5: have societal disillusion because at the end of the day, 325 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 5: political ideology will come and go, it'll mutate, it'll go 326 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 5: here and there, and and we are just too big, 327 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 5: and we were always too big. I think it was 328 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 5: I think it was I think it was hubristic to 329 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 5: expand to the size that that we are and then 330 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 5: kind of inevitably allow our population to change the way 331 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 5: it has through immigration for example. And you know, but 332 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 5: but you know, you can't only just blame immigration. You 333 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 5: have to say, well, okay, you have to recognize that 334 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 5: that things have been going in a leftist direction for 335 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 5: a long time regardless, and maybe it was inevitable that 336 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 5: our conceptions of let's say, the founding documents have changed 337 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 5: or will or will have changed. So yeah, I mean 338 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 5: I agree with your central premise, which is that this 339 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 5: was probably always in the cards. 340 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: Sadly, yeah, sadly. His sub stack is late Republic nonsense. 341 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: It's freaking outstanding, as you can imagine. 342 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 7: Dave, Thank you, my. 343 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: Brother, Thanks buddy. All Right, we got more, got a 344 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: lot more. We're gonna talk about education stuff. What's really 345 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: in the education We still have final thoughts, we had more. 346 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: We'll be back. Let's talk about the military angle of 347 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: all this with my friend Sean Parnell. He is the 348 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: host of the Battleground pop which you can now watch 349 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: on Rumble, and I'm proud of him. Sean. Okay, we're 350 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: talking to night about patriotism and the patriotism problem we have. 351 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: And here's something that really hits me hard, and I'm 352 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: sure you've experienced this. So many of the guys that 353 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: I know who are veterans, they now tell me repeatedly 354 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: they do not want their kids joining the military. It 355 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: is I've never seen that in my entire life. It's 356 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: never been that way, but some of them have flat 357 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: out banned them they said, no, you will not join, 358 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: and that sucks. 359 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, it does. 360 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: In fact, Jesse, to your point, the Pentagon did a 361 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: study about this and they found really what they were 362 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 4: looking for is they were trying to dive into the 363 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: demographic or the type of person that would join the military, 364 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 4: and what they found, almost universally, is that the military 365 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 4: is a legacy organization. You know, men and women in 366 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 4: this country serve this country because their father or grandfather 367 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 4: or grandmother served before them. And so this is the 368 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: first time, one of the first times in American history 369 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 4: where people like us, who were a part of twenty 370 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 4: years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places, 371 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 4: by the way, where we're saying, you know, no, I'm 372 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 4: not doing it anymore. And I thought, I just talked 373 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: about this the other day, Jesse, where you look back 374 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 4: after nine to eleven happened because I joined the military 375 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: after September eleventh, and after that happened. 376 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 8: I mean, I grew up in the. 377 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 4: Eighties and the nineties by and large a time of 378 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 4: peace in this country. And I remember having a conversation 379 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 4: with my buddies, you know, in college, thinking like, our 380 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 4: generation hasn't had a moment where we could rise up 381 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 4: and serve something greater than themselves. 382 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 8: Nine to eleven happen. 383 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 4: And when it happened, man, I was like the day after, 384 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 4: I was like, send me to Afghanistan, put me on 385 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 4: the front lines. 386 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 8: I want to kill Osama bin Laden. 387 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 4: And then a few months later it's like Saddam had 388 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 4: weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and you know what, 389 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 4: I was like, let's go, let's get into Iraq and 390 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 4: let's take out Saddam too. I believed everything that the 391 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: government told me. And looking back twenty years later, right 392 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: and seeing how the government, you know, reacted to COVID 393 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 4: and they lied about masks and vaccines and lockdowns and 394 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: their effectiveness, and really seeing how we pulled out of 395 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 4: Afghanistan and the disastrous surrender that happened there in the 396 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 4: void that we created in Iraq. It's just one lie 397 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 4: after the next in our government. I don't trust the 398 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 4: government anymore. And I think most people who put their 399 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 4: life on the line for this country or saw their 400 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: friends die. I mean, if you ever thought about this, Jesse, 401 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: actually I don't have to ask that question. 402 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 8: I know you have. 403 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 4: But I've lost thirty friends in support of this war, 404 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 4: in these wars. And so now I've got five kids, 405 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 4: you know, three of which are teenage girls, and all 406 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: of them are asking me about my service and was 407 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: it worth it? And should they serve or what brand 408 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: should they serve? And almost universally, I mean, obviously it's 409 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 4: their choice, and I'll support them anyway that they want 410 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: to go. Jesse you, but I tell him no, I 411 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 4: tell him no, it's not the right time. 412 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: Man. That that hit home there, because I was. It 413 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: was actually two or three nights ago. I was texting 414 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: back and forth with a marine that I served with 415 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: in Iraq, and he had kept a document. He keeps 416 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: a document on his phone with the list of all 417 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: the names of the guys from my unit who died, 418 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: and he sent it over to me, and you know, 419 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: it's not like I'd forgotten. But you go through and 420 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: you read that list, and you remember this about this guy, 421 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: and you remember this about that guy. And it was 422 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: yesterday we were watching Band of Brothers with my sons. 423 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: My wife and I were sitting around watching Band of Brothers. 424 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm showing it to him for the first time, and 425 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: my oldest asked, he really asked, Hey, Dad, what about 426 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: what about joining? And you could tell he was he 427 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: was brewing on it as he was watching these heroes. 428 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: What about the military? What about joining? 429 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 5: Is that? 430 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: Is that something I should do? And just without hesitation, Sean, 431 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: I just looked at him and said, no, So I'm 432 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: not this, not this mility. No, no, don't worry about it. 433 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. I I don't know how I 434 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: feel about that, but that's what I told him. 435 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 4: I totally get it. And your story of Band of 436 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 4: Brothers resonates with me. We have a family tradition where 437 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 4: we watch Band of Brothers the day after Christmas and 438 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: it's our job to finish it before New Years. 439 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 8: I've done it every year since college. 440 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 4: Now my kids are doing it because you know, they're 441 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 4: old enough to watch and it's really important history. You know, 442 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: my oldest son, he's fourteen years old now, so you know, 443 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: people are talking about in saber rattling over Ukraine and 444 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: potential escalations there. Why I have a fourteen year old 445 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 4: who's going to be eighteen and four years If people 446 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 4: got their way, and I'm talking Democrats and Republicans, he 447 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 4: could find themselves on the front line of the fight 448 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: in Ukraine and a war against a conventional nation the 449 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 4: likes of which this country has not anticipated what a 450 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 4: war with Russia or some. 451 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 8: Of Russia's allies would look like. But that notwithstanding. 452 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 4: He asked me because he was watching some of the 453 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 4: episodes on my podcast where I'll have some of my 454 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: guys back on it, and I was. 455 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 8: In the infantry. 456 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 4: I think you were in the infantry as well, on 457 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 4: the front lines of a lot of these fights. And 458 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 4: he asked me straight up, Dad, like I saw I 459 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: read in your bio and I saw you talking with 460 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 4: one of your soldiers, Did you really kill three hundred 461 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 4: and fifty terrorists in Afghanistan? 462 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 8: And I said, Ethan, you know, I. 463 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: Don't know that. 464 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 4: I couldn't fault him for asking the question, you know, 465 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 4: because he was watching me discuss this with my troops. 466 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 8: But yeah, the answer is yeah. And I don't regret. 467 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 4: I don't lose a wink of sleep over over killing 468 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: America's enemies. People that don't deserve that, do terrible things 469 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 4: to innocent people. 470 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 8: But I don't want him to have to go through that. 471 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: In fact, I remember saying to myself and man Jesse 472 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: was so naive back then that I'm serving today so 473 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 4: that my kids won't have to do the same thing someday. 474 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: And not only was that naive, I realized that history 475 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 4: repeats itself time after time again. I mean, we clearly 476 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 4: didn't learn our lesson after the Vietnam War, after spending 477 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: eight years fifty eight thousand dead in Vietnam and then 478 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: twenty years at war in Iraq and Afghanistan. 479 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 8: And have you ever asked yourself? What do we have 480 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 8: the show for it? Like, I'm proud of my service, Jesse, 481 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 8: I would do it again in a second. 482 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 4: If America ever found herself at risk, our borders at risk, 483 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 4: I would. I would volunteer to serve this nation in 484 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 4: a second. But if you're going to ask me whether 485 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 4: Iraq in Afghanistan was worth it after I lost thirty 486 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 4: of my closest friends, I'm going to tell you every 487 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 4: single time absolutely positively. 488 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 8: Hell now. 489 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well I'm with you, brother, I'm with you. 490 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you something else. Speaking of the military. Uh, 491 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: this little this little clip of Secretary Defense Secretary Lloyd 492 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: Austin just and I'm telling you what here it is. 493 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 7: And today we reaffirm that transgender rights are human rights. 494 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 7: And that America is safer and better when every qualified 495 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 7: citizen can serve with pride and dignity. 496 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: Sean. They complain about recruitment, but as much as the 497 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: waste wars as you brought up, this is hurting recruitment 498 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: to young men, young type A men who want danger 499 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: and adventure and service and make themselves better. They don't 500 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: want to join this military. It's not just people like 501 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: me talking my sons out of it. That high school 502 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: wrestler in Iowa who wanted to be a marine it 503 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: didn't want to be a rainbow marine, and he's gonna 504 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: go do something else. Man. 505 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 8: I couldn't agree more. 506 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: And a Secretary of Defense Austin, by the way, he 507 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 4: was a commanding general of the tenth Mountain Division when 508 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: I was there and in Afghanistan. We had nothing but 509 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 4: positive things to say about him then, but now clearly 510 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: he seems like he's just more concerned with the suits 511 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 4: than the boots, which is typically the case with generals 512 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 4: as they progress through the ranks. 513 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 8: But I cannot stand. It's a pet peeve of mine. 514 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: Where you get these politicians that trot out stock platitudes 515 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: like our diversity is our strength that's. 516 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 8: Nonsense because it's only part of the story. And I 517 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 8: know that you understand this. 518 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 4: But when we are in Afghanistan and your boots on 519 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 4: the ground front enemy, you don't care about someone's skin, color, race, creed, religion. 520 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 8: You don't care. 521 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: The only thing that matters is that you're American. There 522 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 4: are no hyphenated Americans on the battlefield. We don't celebrate 523 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,239 Speaker 4: people's differences in the military. So when you say our 524 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 4: diversity is our strength, it's not true. The strength that 525 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: one of the greatest strengths of this country is and 526 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 4: always has been our ability to unify beyond our many differences, 527 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 4: which is why in school, I mean back in the day, 528 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 4: they taught you to critically think and think for yourself 529 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 4: and question everything. But back in the day, it was 530 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: America was a melting pot, not because people came here 531 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 4: and discarded their culture and everything that was unique about them. 532 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 4: Was because they retained those things, but put being an 533 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 4: American first. And that's lost in society today because twenty 534 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 4: five percent of the radical left, who are all by 535 00:30:53,280 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 4: the way, are communists. They divide us between race, creed, religion, young, old, rich, poor, whatever, 536 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: and they divide us so that they. 537 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 8: Can keep us weak. 538 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 4: And that's just the bottom line to it, and I 539 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 4: hate to see it. 540 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: That's true, Sean Parnell. Love your brother. 541 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 8: We'll talk again soon, all right, see your brother. Take care, 542 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 8: don't worry. 543 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: We're not done. We got more. Hang on, Let's talk 544 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: about schools. Let's talk about what they're doing with the kids, 545 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: because that, honestly, it's the most essential item when you're 546 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: coming up with a patriotism problem when you see, i 547 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: should say, a patriotism problem starting in schools and starting 548 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: with their programming, starting with their education. Joining me now, 549 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: Robin Steinman. She is with the Williamson County, Tennessee chapter 550 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: of the Wonderful Moms for Liberty, Robin. They're after kids, 551 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: and they're after them on purpose, aren't they. It's not 552 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: just an accident that they end up stumbling into all 553 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: kids things from school to their. 554 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 6: Movies, not by accident at all. 555 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 9: If you look at the history of Marxist cultural revolutions, 556 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 9: the most effective ones are the ones that targeted children, 557 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 9: especially through education. 558 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: What kind of things are they teaching in school? 559 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 9: Well, it's a multi pronged approach. Really, It's not just 560 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 9: the curriculum it's social emotional learning, it's restorative justice, it's 561 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 9: comprehensive sexuality education. It's pornographic content in the libraries. It's 562 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 9: gender ideology. It's generative curriculum, which creates themes within anything 563 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 9: that they teach your kids, even a math problem with 564 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 9: which they can speak to ideological political agendas. 565 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 6: And it's also critical race theory. 566 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 9: So through all of these things, and there's the graphic, 567 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 9: it's propping up a Marxist pedagogy in our schools. And 568 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 9: the reason that kids are learning to hate their country 569 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 9: is because their school is teaching them that through multiple 570 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 9: ideologies and agendas that prop up a Marxist pedagogy. And 571 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 9: by pedagogy, I mean the whole of the teaching is pedagogy. 572 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 9: And this goes from kindergarten through the twelfth grade and 573 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 9: then only intensifies in college. And so our kids are 574 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 9: being taught poorly, I might add, to read and write 575 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 9: and do math through a Marxist worldview. And then you 576 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 9: have to ask yourself, well, what is the Marxist worldview? 577 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 9: It is distinctly anti religion, anti family, anti capitalism, anti America, 578 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 9: And then we wonder why our kids end up in 579 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 9: this way, so and at the end of the day, 580 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 9: they even don't read, write and do math very well 581 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 9: because the teachers and the institutions are really prioritizing this 582 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 9: ideology and the Marxist teachings over actual reading and writing, 583 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 9: because they're seeking to make emotional activists and. 584 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 6: Soldiers for the cause more than logic, you know, and. 585 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 9: Reasoning and thinking individuals that will stewart our country forward, Robin. 586 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: How long do we think this has been going on 587 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: for the little kids? Obviously it was COVID that brought 588 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: that into everyone's living room and woke people up as 589 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: the filths they're pouring on our kids. How long were 590 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: they pouring that filth on our third graders before we 591 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: woke up to it. 592 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 9: This has been percolating for decades. The dismantling started, I 593 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 9: think really in the early part of you know, like 594 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 9: the forties into fifties and sixties. And then there was 595 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 9: a book written by Herbert Marcuse, who was part of 596 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 9: the Frankfurt School, who really brought critical theory, which is 597 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 9: the parent of critical race theory and also a critical 598 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 9: queer theory, and all of the critical theories swirling around 599 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 9: our children's head he wrote a paper in the seventies 600 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 9: that said, you know what, overt revolution is not really 601 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 9: working for it, So it's time to go into the 602 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 9: teaching institutions, to the universities, to the corporations and start 603 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 9: working that way in order to affect change. 604 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 6: And that's really what they did. 605 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 9: So there was a definite shift in the early seventies 606 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 9: in which they went into academia and then so that 607 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 9: was percolating for a while, and then the Doe Department 608 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 9: of Education was formed in the late seventies that gave 609 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 9: it a kick start. But really, when we trace back 610 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 9: all of these ideologies when they intensely came into the 611 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 9: school system was in the Obama administration. That is when 612 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 9: a lot of them received the direct injection into the 613 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 9: bloodstream of American education, and it really took off exponentially 614 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 9: at that point. That's social emotional learning, critical race, your 615 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 9: comprehensive sexuality education, and even the issue of pornographic content 616 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 9: in the libraries. From twenty twenty there were only six 617 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 9: hundred reported obscene books and then twenty twenty one sixteen hundred. 618 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 9: So it's just been going at an exponential pace and 619 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 9: parents are drinking from a fire hose trying to keep up. 620 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 9: There's just so many things in the war for our children. 621 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 9: There are many many battlefronts, and so that graphic I 622 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 9: showed you earlier, the columns that prop up the Marxist pedagogy, 623 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 9: those are also really the battlefronts that parents must engage 624 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 9: on to get informed and equipped so that they can 625 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 9: advocate for their kid and defend them against all of this. 626 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 6: Because as those pillars ideally. 627 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 9: Start to crumble, and we see that happening a lot 628 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 9: with gender ideology right now, the transactivists are really losing 629 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 9: that fight. 630 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 6: And that's how you start to crumble the whole thing. 631 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 9: It's just by knocking out those pillars and being informed 632 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 9: and aware and advocate for your child. 633 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 6: And this is another graphic that we made. 634 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 9: When people ask me, is gender ideology in my schools? 635 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 9: And I created this graphic. I put over sixty hours 636 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 9: of research into it. But from the international level down 637 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 9: to the county level in Tennessee, these are all the 638 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 9: entities that are directly targeting your child's school. So the 639 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 9: answer is, is gender ideology in my child's classroom? 640 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 6: One hundred percent? 641 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 9: Yes, it would be very statistically slim odds that it would. 642 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: Not be why the sex gender stuff as dicky as 643 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 1: all that is to talk about, but when it comes 644 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: to kids, how does that help make them little communists? 645 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 9: Because it's destabilizing to the family. And you know, if 646 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 9: you sexualize a child, then you're essentially destroying a family 647 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 9: before it even starts. 648 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 6: And you also you don't set the child up for 649 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 6: six us in life. 650 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 9: And so in this past year, when you think about 651 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 9: the war for our kids and all the battlefronts that 652 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 9: parents must worry about, and if you start listening out 653 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 9: to the average current, well you got to know about 654 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 9: critical race theory, social emotional learning, comprehensive sex said, all 655 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 9: the generative curriculum, all of the things that parents just 656 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 9: get a far away look and they start to glaze 657 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 9: over and they're ready to give. 658 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 6: Up right then and there. 659 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 9: So what we did as a chapter is we took 660 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 9: each ideology and focused on it one month per ideology, 661 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 9: so that we could just break it down into more digestible, 662 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 9: bite sized portions and present it to the parents so 663 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 9: that then they can understand these issues. Because in order 664 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 9: to advocate or fight back on an issue, you must 665 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 9: understand it. So in March we focused on the pornographic 666 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 9: content and the libraries. 667 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 6: And it turns out that. 668 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 9: You know what peor an addiction is up amongst our youth. 669 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 9: It is when you put porn in front of a 670 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 9: child in the library. It's really a gateway drug to 671 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 9: a life of addiction to that kind of content. And 672 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 9: this does not yield healthy relationships and Marxism. 673 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 6: So what does the Marxist world. 674 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 9: You say it's anti family, It actually despises the family unit. 675 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 9: How do you destroy the family? You sexualize the kids. 676 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 9: That's just one way to do it. 677 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: Robin, love you guys, keep doing what you're doing. 678 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 6: Thank you, all right. 679 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: I have some final thoughts next. Patriotism isn't some hokey word. 680 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: It's not some overused cliche. It is really really important 681 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: for the and we are losing it. We're losing it quickly, 682 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: and we have to keep this in mind. This is 683 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: being done on purpose. The evil system we have, the 684 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: evil institutions we have now, they are taking away the 685 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: patriotism of this nation on purpose. So we will allow 686 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: them to burn it down. That is their ultimate goal. 687 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: They want to burn it down. They know we won't 688 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: let them. While we love it so they're trying to 689 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: make us hate it. Remember it's being done on purpose. 690 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: All Right, all right, we'll do it again.