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Speaker 2: And now your host, Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 3: Today is February eighteenth, twenty twenty five, and we are
Speaker 3: sixty five days away from the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
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Speaker 3: got Zach Wolchuck Bryant brought us Fotch Lombardy. Bobby Belt
Speaker 3: in the back right here with Chris Beaman the back,
Speaker 3: but Bobby Belt's also in the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what am I gonna be at?
Speaker 4: You're just identifying me as like second classes? Now you're
Speaker 4: just se he's back there.
Speaker 2: You're now I do We're about to leave.
Speaker 4: I like heavn I'm to leave. I got to cover
Speaker 4: these coaches, man. I gotta figure out who Clayton Adams
Speaker 4: likes in the draft coming up.
Speaker 5: Man, that's an important job.
Speaker 6: That's important.
Speaker 2: While Bobby's here, though, Bobby a question.
Speaker 7: The whole time I've worked with Bobby, like once but
Speaker 7: Bobby's my what the league knows?
Speaker 8: Guy? Whatever?
Speaker 7: And I just I got questions about walsteron Nolan and
Speaker 7: Jalen Walker. What does the league say about them?
Speaker 3: Sorry, we're doing right Walker again, this is your podcast, ser.
Speaker 7: Well, we got into the volo, we got into a guest,
Speaker 7: we got into a fight last show, and I just
Speaker 7: simply want to know because what I think doesn't matter
Speaker 7: what Brian zagan, It doesn't Tommy, what does the league
Speaker 7: think about.
Speaker 8: Those two guys?
Speaker 4: Who do you want first?
Speaker 8: Walker? Please? Because that's the most recent fight.
Speaker 5: Please?
Speaker 4: What was the fight over? I think I think so.
Speaker 4: I mean that's split. That's definitely when it comes to
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter, like a Travis Hunter guy is like I
Speaker 4: think there are pretty much everybody settles on he's more cornerback.
Speaker 4: I feel like the league has has decided. Some people
Speaker 4: think he's a receiver. Brian thinks he'd be a really
Speaker 4: good receiver. I think he could be really great there.
Speaker 4: But most league I think it's set on. We think
Speaker 4: he's more of a corner with Walker, I think there
Speaker 4: is more of a kind of a split where different
Speaker 4: teams view him differently. I've heard more people I've talked
Speaker 4: to think of him as kind of just a blitzing linebacker,
Speaker 4: like a hybrid, like the way that Micah was used
Speaker 4: more of the first couple of years, rather than the
Speaker 4: way he was used last year, where last year he
Speaker 4: was used pretty much as a realistic edge were the
Speaker 4: previous couple of years he was more linebacker that was
Speaker 4: hybrid rusher. I think that's how people view Walker Nolan.
Speaker 4: I just think the league thinks so much more highly
Speaker 4: of Nolan than has been represented here. Probably I like
Speaker 4: Walter Nolan. Walter Nolan, though is people talk about him
Speaker 4: as when we get done with the combine and we
Speaker 4: get done with a lot of the stuff, you start
Speaker 4: hearing from teams about how athletic he is and freak
Speaker 4: issue is. I mean, you're gonna you're gonna start hearing
Speaker 4: the buzz pick up. But people just think he's an
Speaker 4: absolute freak a defensive tackle, and there's just it's the
Speaker 4: stuff you can't you know, teach, It's the stuff you
Speaker 4: can't bring out of somebody just by coaching and whatever else.
Speaker 4: It's that stuff where it's all right, give me that
Speaker 4: piece of clay because I feel like I can mold
Speaker 4: it into anything. Whereas other guys. Maybe it's like, Wow,
Speaker 4: they're missing this or missing that.
Speaker 5: More good than bad there, or more bad than good?
Speaker 8: Youre talking about Walker or Nolan Nolan.
Speaker 7: I think I think people think that we hate Nolan,
Speaker 7: and we don't necessarily hate Nolan. We just love Harmon
Speaker 7: and Williams and we love Granting all those guys more
Speaker 7: than him, and we just kind of look at him
Speaker 7: more of you, like a late second type of guy,
Speaker 7: like an early third type of guy. But there are
Speaker 7: some people that like Nolan in the first, and I'm
Speaker 7: not on board with all.
Speaker 2: Tommy has him in the first, a lot of teams.
Speaker 4: Will I think this is going to be a very
Speaker 4: light first round picker. I think a lot of teams
Speaker 4: are gonna have him.
Speaker 3: I have him as early second, so I think I'm
Speaker 3: kind of in between. If he's there at forty four,
Speaker 3: I'm doing cartwheels. But at twelve, I think.
Speaker 4: It would be I think I think Nolan would be
Speaker 4: like I think twelve is around where the league would
Speaker 4: start thinking Nolan's gonna Yeah, I think.
Speaker 6: He's definitely in play at twelve. It's just an inconsistency,
Speaker 6: Like he flashes brilliance and I know you don't like
Speaker 6: the word flash, but that's what it.
Speaker 2: Is, which is scares the hell out of me. Jack.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 9: You flash and all of a sudden like, oh I
Speaker 9: saw it, But then I'm also taught if you see
Speaker 9: it one time, you'll see it again. But I don't
Speaker 9: see it consistently enough with this guy. I think that bothers.
Speaker 6: Me laziness at times tape which you're really that, Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's like and I'm not the only distraction here. You're
Speaker 6: going to have to answer that now you know, Well,
Speaker 6: that's just what I saw on tape.
Speaker 4: Okay, so if you can, let's say, motor doesn't always
Speaker 4: run hot. You got to find your your substitute.
Speaker 6: There's time where you know, there's times where it is,
Speaker 6: but then there's other times it's like, what's going on
Speaker 6: with this play where it doesn't seem like you're as
Speaker 6: engaged as you were Say a serious.
Speaker 5: No, you're not wrong, bro, you're doing good.
Speaker 6: But but TJ. Sanders like, it's weird to me. There's
Speaker 6: like a hive that loves t J. Sanders. To me,
Speaker 6: if you love TJ. Sanders, I don't get why you
Speaker 6: wouldn't love Walter Nolan because I see the same thing,
Speaker 6: and T J. Sanders will wear down over the course
Speaker 6: of a game.
Speaker 8: I'm not as how Sanders need.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you talk about like Brian you
Speaker 4: mentioned you, you don't see it consistently enough with Nolan
Speaker 4: the guy that I think of when you're talking about
Speaker 4: freakish athlete and and you didn't see it consistently, but
Speaker 4: it did come together when he got to the NFL level.
Speaker 4: Uh is a guy like Milton Williams who who just
Speaker 4: stood out in Super Bowl big time. Now, Milton Williams
Speaker 4: is not a first round pick. He was like a
Speaker 4: third But Milton Williams was an absolute freak at the
Speaker 4: defensive tackles. I think Nolan similar. He's just a little bigger.
Speaker 3: Well, and Nolan did it against better competition throughout as well.
Speaker 3: I mean Milton Williams was playing in Conference USA. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: let me ask you this about Nolan. Is this a problem?
Speaker 3: And is this a problem? Because I know Kyle is
Speaker 3: gonna He's did a great job of setting this show up.
Speaker 3: Today we're gonna talk about defensive lineman, so I know
Speaker 3: he's gonna get there. Are we running into a problem
Speaker 3: with these effort defensive tackles or edges because they play
Speaker 3: in rotating systems and we don't see them every play
Speaker 3: like they I watched Tennessee, I watched Mississippi, I watched
Speaker 3: South Carolina.
Speaker 5: It's a rotating system.
Speaker 9: And do you get a feel for the play in
Speaker 9: a rotating system like some of these teams that might
Speaker 9: have guys that play the majority of the series.
Speaker 7: I feel you, But I never want to give a
Speaker 7: guy a reason a loaf, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: So we were just talking about what a lot to him?
Speaker 5: He's saying that loaf loaf.
Speaker 6: We were just we were just making say how you
Speaker 6: feel on this show. Dion Walker, I'll stand by it.
Speaker 7: Dion Walker has some aggressive loafs, Like I'm standing up
Speaker 7: in my feet aren't even moving and it's like I'm
Speaker 7: just keeping you walk. I'm like, damn, deon walk, are you?
Speaker 7: Are you that tired? I don't want nobody to be
Speaker 7: that tired. And in my mind, sixty plays in college
Speaker 7: might be thirty plays in the league, you know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying. So I never want to see like, you know,
Speaker 7: whether you're rotating or not. Our guy Norman lat Right,
Speaker 7: I don't really see him slowing down that much. Derek Harmon.
Speaker 7: I don't see Derek Harmon slowing.
Speaker 6: Down in a rotating system.
Speaker 7: So I never want to see a guy slow down,
Speaker 7: no matter you know, if they get sixty thirty or twelves.
Speaker 4: Now, one of the things that I always look at whenever,
Speaker 4: it's whenever you've got a guy like Nolan, if you're wondering, okay,
Speaker 4: the motor always there, anything else, I tend to go
Speaker 4: back and I go, all right, who did I who
Speaker 4: did I describe this way in the past, Like let
Speaker 4: me go back like the notes, see who did I
Speaker 4: describe similarly? And how consistently did that look like it
Speaker 4: got fixed at the next level, or how consistently was
Speaker 4: like well that was a problem. So like I think,
Speaker 4: whenever I think of motor or taking plays off, like
Speaker 4: there are a couple of there are times you see
Speaker 4: that you saw that with Jaylen Carter when he was
Speaker 4: at Georgia that has worked out. There are other times
Speaker 4: where I remember thinking of that a lot about Jerry
Speaker 4: Tillery when he was at Notre Dame, and Jerry Tillery
Speaker 4: did not work out, and so yeah, there you go
Speaker 4: there there. I think it's whenever those kind of things
Speaker 4: crop up. It's important to look back and go, Okay,
Speaker 4: who did I describe like this in the past, and
Speaker 4: how did that actually flesh out at the NFL.
Speaker 3: But when you're looking at Walter Nolan and you're seeing
Speaker 3: the physical traits, I don't know if I'm looking at
Speaker 3: him and saying Jalen Carter, I'm looking at him and
Speaker 3: I'm saying Tillery more than that. So if if you're
Speaker 3: leaning one way or the other, Jalen Carter was not
Speaker 3: a three or four down lineman in the or in college,
Speaker 3: but he played a rotating, rotating system. When you have
Speaker 3: walker no one playing in that same rotating system, I
Speaker 3: don't necessarily look at him. He's a freak, don't get
Speaker 3: me wrong, But I don't look at him as like
Speaker 3: an elite level.
Speaker 2: Player like a Jalen Carter was. You know, if you're
Speaker 2: that same level.
Speaker 7: If you're truly like great, it lends you some room
Speaker 7: to loaf a little bit somewhat. But if you when
Speaker 7: you're not loafing, you're solid good, but you're not super elite,
Speaker 7: then that kind of drops you down the board. Little
Speaker 7: bit of what you're saying, yeah, kind of Jalen Carter.
Speaker 7: I don't know, if I hate you'll.
Speaker 2: See what you could be great?
Speaker 6: Is that what we're saying here?
Speaker 2: I don't know if I like that.
Speaker 7: I didn't. I don't agree. But but but Jalen Carter
Speaker 7: was the best player that whole draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and it was far and away.
Speaker 7: Man, I can at least look at Nolan be like,
Speaker 7: all right, at least there's at least four guys.
Speaker 3: That's just like would play for two snaps, But those
Speaker 3: two snaps he would absolutely Demolock.
Speaker 6: We're talking about a game record that's on a totally
Speaker 6: different level.
Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And even if he did, it was one play here
Speaker 3: or one play there, It wasn't every single time he
Speaker 3: was on the field. You would see him take plays
Speaker 3: off off, whereas Carter was just standing on the side
Speaker 3: of the shore.
Speaker 4: What consistently, like, I mean, does taking plays off or
Speaker 4: looking like the motor doesn't run as hot? Does that
Speaker 4: matter more at certain positions than it does others?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I know, we do air quotes around here. Does that
Speaker 4: look like that look like it matters more than it
Speaker 4: does in the building? Does that matter more?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: Friends?
Speaker 4: I will occasionally go all right, if a defensive lineman's
Speaker 4: getting beat up a little, obviously I want the motor
Speaker 4: or hot But I feel like I see that with
Speaker 4: a lot of guys, you know, over the years, where
Speaker 4: it's like maybe they're getting beat up and it's just like,
Speaker 4: all right, I shouldn't, but I'm worn down. I'm not
Speaker 4: in an NFL strength program or a conditioning program, and
Speaker 4: and I kind of wonder, are they just getting worn
Speaker 4: down by the battle And is that something that can
Speaker 4: be fixed at the next level if you get to
Speaker 4: a better conditioning program or a strength program.
Speaker 7: You're not wrong, but it's just I'm comparing Nolan to
Speaker 7: three other people. Yeah, that don't take places.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that's the case. I'm saying, is
Speaker 4: that that question, like how do you answer that question
Speaker 4: of is it more important at some positions? So like
Speaker 4: do you need to see that effort all the time
Speaker 4: at this position more than this one?
Speaker 3: Or well, when you're playing corner in safety, you get exposed.
Speaker 3: If you take a playoff coreer as defensive tackle, you
Speaker 3: can kind of hide in the moneyness, sure, if he's
Speaker 3: not going your way.
Speaker 6: I do wonder because, like you said, ball of Clay,
Speaker 6: that you can bold. That to me is that's scary.
Speaker 6: And I think you scout saw that with Dallas Turner
Speaker 6: a year ago, like, oh my gosh, that's got all
Speaker 6: the traits. He's twitchy as hell. You don't see the production.
Speaker 4: Artner Turner got accused of the taking plays off a lot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And I don't know like him. I think
Speaker 6: Shamar Stewart from Texas A and M like, physically these
Speaker 6: are this is what you want in that guy at
Speaker 6: that position. But do I see the production down and
Speaker 6: down out? No, And I think you can get in
Speaker 6: a lot of trouble as a scout thinking like, oh
Speaker 6: my gosh, I love the intangibles, I love the athleticism.
Speaker 6: Same thing as a position coach. Bring him into my system.
Speaker 6: I can bowl them. Carrie Collins, Oh he's got a hitch.
Speaker 6: Oh I could fix that. Fifteen years. I've got a
Speaker 6: production and I see it consistently. I think that's going
Speaker 6: to translate better than the mold of clay that I'm
Speaker 6: hoping that I can develop.
Speaker 4: But we are talking about pick twelve in a thinner class,
Speaker 4: like we're not talking about picking number two and saying
Speaker 4: give me the mole. Like the Clay. You're talking about
Speaker 4: a draft where some people may have eleven first round
Speaker 4: picks on their and so you're sitting there right on
Speaker 4: the edge, and you go, well, this is the guy
Speaker 4: that if I can put them together, he can be
Speaker 4: just as good potentially as some of these guys at
Speaker 4: the top of the draft.
Speaker 9: That scares the hell out of me, Bobby, it does.
Speaker 9: That scares the hell out of me that I'm hoping
Speaker 9: that this guy is cause Kyler.
Speaker 4: Smith scared the hell out of a lot of People's.
Speaker 6: True, that's another guy. You saw it like physically, we.
Speaker 2: Saw all the traits and I don't know it scared.
Speaker 2: It was the tech. It was your technique right right,
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 4: It wasn't it was, but it was skill set his
Speaker 4: hands right, but skill set was there. And you said,
Speaker 4: what kind of a student is he? The same sort
Speaker 4: of thing I think still exists with Nolan. I think Nolan,
Speaker 4: you go skill sets there. If the Cowboys were to
Speaker 4: pick Nolan at twelve, given their history of finding guys
Speaker 4: that they know were good students, like Tyler Smith or something,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna trust they've got a pretty good read on
Speaker 4: He takes to coaching pretty well and they feel good
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 2: So did they hit that with Mazzie Smith?
Speaker 6: You know what, I think he might not like football,
Speaker 6: and that's that's part of the question you got to
Speaker 6: hit with.
Speaker 2: That's what you got to and that's a hard thing
Speaker 2: to scout. I think you agree with you.
Speaker 3: Usually they've gotten the right type of person and the
Speaker 3: right type of background, but they have missed on it
Speaker 3: before right recently.
Speaker 4: And I think it also matters, like I think Jeff Skinnea,
Speaker 4: who's who's no longer here obviously, I think Jeff Scineya
Speaker 4: did a great job helping right right, And that's so
Speaker 4: I think it also matters of like who's reaching them.
Speaker 4: And I think that this coaching staff, we've heard it
Speaker 4: from Brian Schottenheimer, were about to go here it in
Speaker 4: this hallway, it's going to be very much about culture
Speaker 4: and effort and things like that. If they were to
Speaker 4: pick him. I can't imagine that that room back there
Speaker 4: wouldn't be comfortable with we can get it out of him.
Speaker 8: So do you think right.
Speaker 10: Me?
Speaker 6: I don't think you can miss the first round. I
Speaker 6: mean we got effort questions with.
Speaker 7: Me, is right this coaching staff or this this team whatever,
Speaker 7: right they took a linebacker that wasn't really a pass
Speaker 7: Russian name, made him a pass rusher. And they took
Speaker 7: a Tyler Smith that we didn't think would be a
Speaker 7: great left tackle and they developed him and he was
Speaker 7: able to play some left tackle. Right, So maybe you
Speaker 7: you know, they had some confidence that they could take
Speaker 7: raw players and like kind of fix them. Sure, so
Speaker 7: you miss on a Mazi and uh, we just we're
Speaker 7: not clear about Tyler Guyton just yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think that they switched.
Speaker 7: Back to all right, let me look for day one
Speaker 7: guys that could possibly play now because the last two
Speaker 7: project type dudes didn't work for me?
Speaker 8: That makes sense?
Speaker 6: Yes, Yes, that's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Bobby, you know these scouts better than anybody.
Speaker 8: What they thinking about it?
Speaker 2: Are the no?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Are they they what they think?
Speaker 9: Are they under pressure? Are they under pressure after what's
Speaker 9: happened with the last two.
Speaker 8: That's a much better way to say what I just said.
Speaker 4: Look, I mean I think this whole organization was under pressure.
Speaker 4: Everybody was on expiring deals basically that included a lot
Speaker 4: of the scouting staff. So look, I think that there
Speaker 4: there is a unique pressure from the sense that this
Speaker 4: team doesn't generally play free agent water, so you feel
Speaker 4: like there's no margin for error. You feel like we
Speaker 4: got to hit every pick in the top four, can't
Speaker 4: have any like and I mean the numbers just say,
Speaker 4: the math says that's not gonna always happen. You're gonna
Speaker 4: miss guys. And there's a lot of pressure in that sense.
Speaker 4: But I think it's something that it's a pressure they welcome, Like,
Speaker 4: I think that's something they like performing under that. All right,
Speaker 4: let's go find the guy, let's go knock this out.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's definitely a big ask for those guys,
Speaker 4: and I think, like I said, a lot of this
Speaker 4: with these new coaches and the way that Will McLay
Speaker 4: obviously sets it up to, Hey, let's interact personnel staff
Speaker 4: with the assistant coaches, talk about what you guys like,
Speaker 4: and let's go let our guys get to work. I
Speaker 4: think this is right. Here is a critical window for that.
Speaker 9: I will tell you this though, from what I learned
Speaker 9: about the Certain Horn draft was that the scouts were
Speaker 9: really on Certain and the coaches were going with Horn.
Speaker 9: And it's because the scouts felt better about the player,
Speaker 9: they felt better about the consistency of the player they
Speaker 9: felt about what he could develop as. Not that they
Speaker 9: didn't like Horn, but they they were in a mode
Speaker 9: where they're like, this guy's a gambler, a risk take
Speaker 9: or that kind of yeap, give us the solid, give
Speaker 9: us the guy if that at that spot, And to me,
Speaker 9: it looks like they they they were their attitude was
Speaker 9: the right way, and I wonder if that's going to
Speaker 9: stay true to this draft with so much like murkiness
Speaker 9: and muddiness on the top of this board.
Speaker 4: I will say this just before I go down and
Speaker 4: see the assistant coaches. I know that in the past,
Speaker 4: I don't know about it, but just talking to scouts
Speaker 4: around the league, yeah, not just hearing Dallas in general, scouts,
Speaker 4: I think feel like the safe player is typically the
Speaker 4: one because I've asked this question of people for the
Speaker 4: safe players, typically a player coaches want because they feel
Speaker 4: like their job is more on the line immediately every
Speaker 4: year than personnel department does. Like personnel department feels like
Speaker 4: they're process oriented and they're they're grabbing a talent and
Speaker 4: they're they're looking three ars out, where as a coach
Speaker 4: who's you know, Mike McCarthy last year, in a in
Speaker 4: a contract year, maybe felt like, give me someone who
Speaker 4: can help me now, Like I mean, now I don't
Speaker 4: need a project guy, whereas a scout may say or
Speaker 4: personal department say, yeah, this guy's going to be better in
Speaker 4: three years, and I can be patient with that. And
Speaker 4: so typically I think it's been reversed in that situation
Speaker 4: you're talking about there with Horn and Sertana obviously, but
Speaker 4: typically I think in my experience across the league, not
Speaker 4: just here in Dallas, I think a lot more scouts
Speaker 4: are willing to say, let's get the talent and let's
Speaker 4: trust our coaches to bring it out of them.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's super interesting, the whole puzzle piece all put
Speaker 3: together like that, Bobby.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it as as always.
Speaker 8: This year.
Speaker 6: It's one of those things where we when we've heard
Speaker 6: some misses and look, there's a lot that is unknown
Speaker 6: that I have no idea about. But it seems like
Speaker 6: when they trust the scouting department their success. Yeah, when
Speaker 6: you start having the coach's influence, that's when.
Speaker 9: Maybe you start to get This is where Schottenheimer needs
Speaker 9: to be smart. This is where he needs to step
Speaker 9: up and tell these coaches like listen, this first year,
Speaker 9: these guys are going to pick players for us. Yeah,
Speaker 9: and go from there. Bill Parcells did the exact same
Speaker 9: thing when he came in. He said, I'm going to
Speaker 9: evaluate every one of you. I'm going to let you
Speaker 9: pick these pick this team. There was fight about Terrence Newman,
Speaker 9: you know, and Larry Lace will say, listen, Bill, we
Speaker 9: don't draft this kid. We don't have a corner on
Speaker 9: this team that could play, and so Bill trusts the scouts.
Speaker 9: I think Brian Schottenheim will be very smart to take
Speaker 9: a page out of that book and do that.
Speaker 3: It seems like he would trin that direction just knowing,
Speaker 3: and of course you can't tell the future, but just
Speaker 3: knowing how he's run things from an offensive coordinator standpoint
Speaker 3: in the past, and the type of person that he is,
Speaker 3: I think he does see that as a benefit for him,
Speaker 3: which would be a good thing for everybody involved. All right,
Speaker 3: let's take our first break when we come back. We've
Speaker 3: got some twitter on the twenty A lot of questions
Speaker 3: around that defensive tackle spot and defensive.
Speaker 2: Line in general. As Brian alluded to.
Speaker 3: Earlier, I want to hit maybe the forty four mid
Speaker 3: seventies when can the Cowboys start talking about defensive line?
Speaker 3: Maybe as early as twelve. We'll answer some of your
Speaker 3: questions with Twitter on the twenty right after this.
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Speaker 3: all right, Jimmy or Jeffrey hendrim say, Jimmy Hendricks, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I almost said it. Jeffrey Hendricks. Joe says, you have
Speaker 3: to finish the first three rounds without one of these positions.
Speaker 3: Which one are you most okay leaving without? Here are
Speaker 3: your options running back, wide receiver, defensive line, offensive line,
Speaker 3: Which one you leaving out out of the first three rounds?
Speaker 3: You're going all the way to round five without one
Speaker 3: of those spots where you feel like you.
Speaker 5: Can offensive line.
Speaker 6: For me, I agree, I'm gonna go offensive line as well,
Speaker 6: because I do think you've got enough depth right now
Speaker 6: with awesome Richards guys like hopefully brought k Hoffman still in
Speaker 6: the fold.
Speaker 2: That wasn't the first name I thought would come out of.
Speaker 6: I'm an ausesome Richards. I think you're playing allowed to
Speaker 6: compete at left tackle. You put them in left absolutely,
Speaker 6: maybe right tackle.
Speaker 2: Okay, where's your right tackle going?
Speaker 6: Who knows? I think we're competing in the losers your
Speaker 6: backup because I think all three are gonna end up
Speaker 6: playing throughout the course of the season. You know, injuries
Speaker 6: are a thing in the National Football League. It's hard
Speaker 6: to make sure seventeen games. So I think having three
Speaker 6: guys that was some confidence extremely important.
Speaker 2: So I'm going awesome Richards.
Speaker 6: I like, I love bra Kauffin and the depth that
Speaker 6: he's able to provide you. I think you've got to
Speaker 6: have a running back. You've got to have a wide
Speaker 6: receiver to compliment ce d Lamb and I defensive line.
Speaker 6: Can we line up and play today? I'm not so sure.
Speaker 2: No, Fox, what do you think?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 7: Running back is probably gonna be very plentiful in the
Speaker 7: fifth round. I know people don't want to hear that.
Speaker 7: I know people would rather get that steadily running back first.
Speaker 7: I just don't want to write off because I might
Speaker 7: like an offensive lineman early, like like the board may
Speaker 7: force me to take an offensive lineman early, or take
Speaker 7: a take a d lineman early. I think you have
Speaker 7: to go a wide receiver because there's really an emergency there.
Speaker 7: I think if you forced me to decide between a
Speaker 7: fifth round running back or a fifth round tackle. I
Speaker 7: think the running backs there would be better than the tackle.
Speaker 3: I'm gon a name off some four fives here that
Speaker 3: I've got for you. Okay, let's play this game a
Speaker 3: little bit. Running back. Let's go with TOAJ Brooks, Texas Tech,
Speaker 3: Dark West Hunter from Auburn.
Speaker 5: A big fan of Hunter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like him a lot.
Speaker 3: DJ Giddons Kansas State, Damian Martinez, Miami, Jayden Blue Texas. Okay,
Speaker 3: let's go to Let's go to wider seat. Okay, Kyle,
Speaker 3: Let's have a conversation.
Speaker 6: Brooks, I know this.
Speaker 8: Let's I knew this was about to happen. Let's have
Speaker 8: a conversation.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about it.
Speaker 7: Let's say you miss out on running backs, right, Let's
Speaker 7: just stay together round one, two and three? You miss out? Yeah,
Speaker 7: Can a combination of scatterable in blue work for you?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: Absolutely?
Speaker 8: Can back combination work for you?
Speaker 2: Like, let's you're able dipping in the fifth at running back.
Speaker 7: If you don't take one, one, two and three, you
Speaker 7: might have to I'd be okay with right.
Speaker 3: So I like some of those names that are there.
Speaker 3: Dark West Hunter from Auburn. I know you are both very.
Speaker 9: We're talking about, but you're talking about like fifth round guys.
Speaker 9: I have some of those guys higher than that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: So I'm just assuming like it's gonna look like Royce Freeman,
Speaker 7: do Von Hunter, Lucky DJ Giddings, and Chris Jayden Blue.
Speaker 7: I think that's a cool setup of guys. It's not
Speaker 7: Ashton Genty, is not you know, Hampton and Johnson or
Speaker 7: anything like that. But I think you can live with
Speaker 7: those running backs. I don't want to live in this
Speaker 7: world where I gotta take a wide receiver in the
Speaker 7: fifth or I got to take a d tackle in
Speaker 7: the fifth. I'm looking at tackle in the like third
Speaker 7: round or something like that. I think that's the last
Speaker 7: I love what I'm getting at tackle. When you get
Speaker 7: to like fifth round tackles, you may be a cool
Speaker 7: rotational tackle guy by the time you get to that point.
Speaker 7: And I really want to upgrade tackle. So I'm going
Speaker 7: to run.
Speaker 9: Miss by taking say these two were available, if it
Speaker 9: was Blue and Smith from SMU, with the way they
Speaker 9: catch the ball, is that better than taking a fifth
Speaker 9: round wide receiver.
Speaker 6: Yes, they would be better than my fifth round wide
Speaker 6: receiver options.
Speaker 9: Just because the way they catch the ball, Yes, the
Speaker 9: way that they play in the passing game I mean,
Speaker 9: is that you're taking a fifth round wide receive your
Speaker 9: This guy could very well be what you're playing.
Speaker 2: Here are some names that I've got there.
Speaker 3: I've got Nick nash Um, San Jose Steak, DeAndre Lambert
Speaker 3: Smith from Auburn, Ricky White from un l V, Theowese
Speaker 3: from Missouri, just the name a few names.
Speaker 8: I think none of those guys play for you.
Speaker 7: I think. I don't think they line up day one
Speaker 7: and like playfully. But I think either of those running
Speaker 7: backs you name, I think probably.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 2: It's a good point. It's a good point.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because but you would still if at twelve,
Speaker 3: Ashton Genty's there at twelve, you would still entertain.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I'm taking Gentcy at twelve.
Speaker 6: So even then.
Speaker 3: There's a chance that you still don't go with that
Speaker 3: because of how special of a prospect he becomes.
Speaker 8: You just can't pass on that guy.
Speaker 7: And and I see a lot of people on the internet,
Speaker 7: you know, co workers, you know what I'm saying, that
Speaker 7: are just hating the idea of Genty at twelve, Like,
Speaker 7: don't overthink the best guys me, don't don't overthink the
Speaker 7: best guy there.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So your answer is running back, I would question that
Speaker 2: was at hand.
Speaker 7: I would I would take the running back. I wouldn't
Speaker 7: take the running back over McMillan if he's there or
Speaker 7: something like that, like but most likely he's gonna be
Speaker 7: the best dude on the board. He's going to be
Speaker 7: the last elite guy on the board. I'm taking James.
Speaker 2: But if he's not there, you're okay with waiting on
Speaker 2: running back until the.
Speaker 8: Fifth I would have then, like a running back with
Speaker 8: the names.
Speaker 9: You said, yeah, but the names. But if those names
Speaker 9: are not there, then you know I'm not okay with that.
Speaker 8: Where's the run?
Speaker 7: Where's the where's the the big wipeout running back run?
Speaker 2: It's gonna go from thirty six to forty three?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's going to be happening now anywhere.
Speaker 9: Fron I think you're onto something I I do, and
Speaker 9: and maybe I know Jeff Cavanin had this discussion. He
Speaker 9: doesn't think the run that it's gonna happen. There's gonna
Speaker 9: be somebody there like a Henderson or or one of
Speaker 9: these guys. Blue Smith, You're gonna be there in the
Speaker 9: third round to get But I tell you what, I
Speaker 9: feel a lot better about the third round now after watching.
Speaker 5: Blue and Smith both play.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'd feel a lot better that those guys better
Speaker 9: than what Neil at Kansas. If you look at me
Speaker 9: from Alburn, you know, I know, I know Gettings, I
Speaker 9: know Vatch loves Gettings and he's saying, probably you loved
Speaker 9: him as well.
Speaker 6: I like both those Kansas Kansas Neil and then getting
Speaker 6: from getting State as well.
Speaker 5: This thing is going just thing's going to stretch for you.
Speaker 7: Then, Brand, don't leg it is because he's slow, right, Brand,
Speaker 7: tell him till the people.
Speaker 3: I don't think Gettings is fast. No, I don't like
Speaker 3: him for that reason. Yes, I like Neil because he's
Speaker 3: got some versatility. You talk about guys that can catch
Speaker 3: out of the backfield. He reminds me of Tony Pollard.
Speaker 3: But they just didn't split him out wide at Kansas.
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard, like half of his snaps at Memphis were
Speaker 3: out wide. I see a similar type of build there,
Speaker 3: all right. Zach on Twitter says, is there a player
Speaker 3: that over the last two drafts if they step up
Speaker 3: big this year, you could ensure that they step up big.
Speaker 3: That would give you peace to lower the priority on
Speaker 3: some of these other spots. Is there one guy over
Speaker 3: the last two drafts that you could place that on?
Speaker 2: Just one guy, just one.
Speaker 7: I would love for Tyler guy to be what everybody
Speaker 7: thought he was. Okay, I would love because now I
Speaker 7: don't have to do Now I'm not worrying about tackle
Speaker 7: at all. If if he shows up and is a
Speaker 7: dude and y'all get the points, y'all finger laugh at me, Like,
Speaker 7: if I just look at Tyler game, I would love it.
Speaker 7: I would love it the pieces. I just don't know
Speaker 7: if that's gonna be a thing.
Speaker 5: Mozzie Smith for me? Man, still there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, if Mozzie Smith were to play big time ball,
Speaker 9: and that made me feel so much better about this
Speaker 9: defit defensive tackle room because right now I'm looking at
Speaker 9: ones and threes big time.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Man, you could go Jaalen Tolbert, but he's in the
Speaker 6: last year for y'all, go Ryan Flinoy, Like you need
Speaker 6: somebody that can step up in that receiver room because
Speaker 6: because right now, I mean, who is your compliment to
Speaker 6: ceedee Lamb? I mean Tolbert. You're going into year four
Speaker 6: now and he hasn't proven to be consistent, So I mean,
Speaker 6: is it?
Speaker 14: Is it?
Speaker 6: Flinoy? Is it a guy that I think we all
Speaker 6: like and can see the potential on the upside there.
Speaker 6: I'd love that. It makes me feel better about it.
Speaker 6: If if we were going to skip on a position group,
Speaker 6: we don't go wide receiver, I feel much better about that.
Speaker 8: Panell, what do y'all think the plan is with Mingo?
Speaker 13: Like?
Speaker 8: What's the plan with him?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 7: Do y'all think that was just a dice roll? Or
Speaker 7: do you or do you think that they really have
Speaker 7: an idea that he's going to be a part this
Speaker 7: thing moving forward.
Speaker 3: I don't think they spend a fourth round pick if
Speaker 3: they didn't expect him to be in the thought process
Speaker 3: moving forward.
Speaker 6: I hope they have a plan.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's mine.
Speaker 3: I know hope is not a strategy, but it apparently
Speaker 3: is here whenever it comes to Giant.
Speaker 6: I think their planning he's going to be one of
Speaker 6: your top three receivers this year. Why else are you
Speaker 6: giving up a fourth round pick for That's what? I'm right?
Speaker 6: So I agree.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you why they gave a fourth for Rampick.
Speaker 7: But I mean they building on one. It's all bad
Speaker 7: about these people and they building on a microphone did
Speaker 7: they pay for? But I just don't see where he
Speaker 7: fits in where he plays well.
Speaker 9: The thing about him is he's with from a really
Speaker 9: a previous regime except for the head coach was on
Speaker 9: the staff. So the head coach had better have the
Speaker 9: plan because everybody else and coming in here receivers coach
Speaker 9: is asking me, okay, tell me why we have this
Speaker 9: guy here? Why is this guy on our football team?
Speaker 9: So head coach is going to have to be the
Speaker 9: guy to sell that one.
Speaker 3: Uh with the This is from Harry on Twitter with
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs injury and Jay Lou's uncertainty entering und unrestricted
Speaker 3: free agency. Why isn't corner a talking point.
Speaker 2: At twelve or forty?
Speaker 5: I know I've talked about.
Speaker 3: It is We have talked about it a little bit.
Speaker 3: I know we've hit that name at the top a bunch.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 9: The thought about it is, let me ask you guys this,
Speaker 9: And I don't and I not that I would be
Speaker 9: happy about it, but I'd understand it if Will Johnson
Speaker 9: from Michigan got there to twelve. Would you take him?
Speaker 9: It depends on who else is on the board. But
Speaker 9: let's say he's your best corner.
Speaker 2: Best corner, Yeah that is Matt, I just picked Somens.
Speaker 3: I would love to trade back in that scenario. But
Speaker 3: I'm you know what, I'm not gonna went bad. I'll
Speaker 3: say yes, I'll about you will Chuck, No, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: see this what scares me. That's another spot that scares me.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if we're right or wrong about
Speaker 3: this guy. I don't know that about Johnson specifically.
Speaker 9: Yeah, because it felt like and Vach and I have
Speaker 9: we've been tracking this with our show for really you know,
Speaker 9: better part of us several months here, and he started
Speaker 9: off as a top three guy, and now you're start
Speaker 9: to see him go down and down and down. And
Speaker 9: I wonder if that I wonder if the league thinks
Speaker 9: about him the same way that we've all kind of
Speaker 9: thought about that, that one would scare me a little bit,
Speaker 9: even even I might even consider like another guy, like
Speaker 9: you know, I wonder if Baron would be there, john
Speaker 9: I would take Baron over him above Johnson.
Speaker 3: So if Baron's there, I would take Johnson. But you
Speaker 3: were saying highest rated corner.
Speaker 9: If he was if But yeah, I mean I wonder
Speaker 9: if they would like Baron, they would like Johnson more
Speaker 9: than Baron.
Speaker 7: Do you think that they would like Johnson more than
Speaker 7: the wide receivers on the board.
Speaker 2: No, like Golden in that wide receivers, like Golden in.
Speaker 7: Abuke, Burdon, Golden Abuka. Of course, you know McMillan, but
Speaker 7: like those those those four wire receivers. I had them
Speaker 7: over Johnson. But do you think that Dallas thinks that way?
Speaker 6: I think it's it's possible that they do like Will
Speaker 6: Johnson a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very possible. The conversations I've had, I think
Speaker 2: they do.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's got the frame for it. But they
Speaker 6: like the receivers too. Don't get me wrong. Now, if
Speaker 6: the right receiver is there.
Speaker 3: And Ashton Genty is not, then I think you're you're
Speaker 3: gonna pick a receiver over Will Johnson. I just I
Speaker 3: could see a very realistic conversation you would take. We're
Speaker 3: talking Will Johnson after the twelfth pick.
Speaker 9: What's the last receiver you would take over him? Uh,
Speaker 9: burden of Buca, Golden.
Speaker 7: No, we haven't ranked a little different, but I have
Speaker 7: all those guys over Johnson.
Speaker 3: See, I don't have a BUKA in Golden over Johnson.
Speaker 3: I do, but I like Johnson a little bit more
Speaker 3: than I think most people do.
Speaker 5: That's fine.
Speaker 6: I got McMillan, hunterg Buca, Burden, Golden Yep. Those are
Speaker 6: the guys that i'd consider all over Will Johnson. I
Speaker 6: would hope, And I could be losing my mind, you know,
Speaker 6: I would hope you ain't losing enoughing is that you're right?
Speaker 9: God, I would hope that they would take that wide
Speaker 9: receiver over him if that was the case. But to
Speaker 9: be honest with you, the question is very good there
Speaker 9: because we don't know what's gonna happen with Diggs. I mean,
Speaker 9: his his rehab carried all the way in through training camp.
Speaker 5: Yep. You don't know how that's going to play out,
Speaker 5: and stuff like.
Speaker 3: He may not be ready for week one, and if
Speaker 3: you're playing without him week one, what injury is?
Speaker 9: You needed Carson? You needed Carson to play really well.
Speaker 9: It's what you needed last You needed to show he
Speaker 9: could be And hopefully if you talk about a guy
Speaker 9: that needs to jump, Carson car needs to jump.
Speaker 6: I think Revel's the sleeper for me, like if he's
Speaker 6: a guy that clears medically, I think Revel's better than
Speaker 6: Johnson and they're the same size.
Speaker 2: That's that's another medical.
Speaker 5: Ravel is really I love him now.
Speaker 2: He was a top three corner prior to the injury.
Speaker 8: Sure if he was up there.
Speaker 3: In the same conversation with will Johnson, Brent out of
Speaker 3: Think's Carolina.
Speaker 7: By the way, Brian, please let me ask you this,
Speaker 7: So where do you think the better value at corner is?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 7: Like Johnson at twelve. We can have a conversations about,
Speaker 7: you know, whether we're making just value as right or
Speaker 7: are you looking at day two right like you know
Speaker 7: we looking at Morrison that we're looking at Amos or
Speaker 7: Thompson orter Noel Williams. You know we had that conversation
Speaker 7: by him Nolan like Noel Williams in the third Just
Speaker 7: in my personal opinion, I think I have much better value.
Speaker 9: If you haven't watched no Williams play from California, from California,
Speaker 9: please do please do you'll, you'll, you'll you'll.
Speaker 5: Thank us later for this one.
Speaker 9: I kind of feel like though to me that those
Speaker 9: I have a feeling all those corners are going to
Speaker 9: be gone maybe those second round corners that you and
Speaker 9: I were talking about Thomas from Florida State has I mean,
Speaker 9: I mean, I think that all those long rangey corners
Speaker 9: that can run a little bit are all going to
Speaker 9: be gone. Here people struggling to find corners in this league.
Speaker 6: Kind of like a couple of defishent guys like the
Speaker 6: skinny Kobe Bryant from Case from Kansas. I love him
Speaker 6: mellow also they do, and then I'll fight for Parish
Speaker 6: from k State. I know he's shorter at five to ten,
Speaker 6: but I love his demeanor.
Speaker 2: Man, how much K State film? Do you watch? Cooper bb.
Speaker 6: K State's bumping out some studs and you're saying.
Speaker 2: How many big twelve titles?
Speaker 8: If they won?
Speaker 6: They should have won one this year?
Speaker 8: Hey, don't you dare let him talk?
Speaker 6: Hey, how many big twelve titles of Patrick Mahomes win
Speaker 6: in college? He the best quarterback in the NFL. He is,
Speaker 6: So I don't think that matters, right if the play
Speaker 6: how many other Texas the players have been out of
Speaker 6: have been having great careers in the Mahomes should be
Speaker 6: the one and Todge Brooks is about to be another one.
Speaker 6: Let's go, baby, I do like I love Todge Brooks.
Speaker 6: All right, we gotta takes Chris Carson of this draft.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's a good conference.
Speaker 5: Chris.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oklahoma State. I'm here for it, all right. When
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Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeomans. I got a game that we want.
Speaker 3: To play a little bit here, all right, So listen
Speaker 3: closely for those at home so you can keep up.
Speaker 3: I've got three tiers of players. We're talking ceiling here.
Speaker 2: This could be any.
Speaker 3: Position across the board in the NFL draft. I want
Speaker 3: these guys to pick up their crystal ball and look
Speaker 3: into the future. I want you to tell me one
Speaker 3: player in each of these levels all pro so good
Speaker 3: enough to make the All Pro list at least once
Speaker 3: throughout their career. He's going to be an All Pro,
Speaker 3: no doubt about it in your mind. An example of
Speaker 3: this would be Ashton Gent. He might be the best
Speaker 3: running back in the league one day. Who cares Cooper
Speaker 3: BB last year?
Speaker 2: There you go?
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, multi state, multi time pro bowler, somebody that's
Speaker 3: going to lead the way at their position, but maybe
Speaker 3: not the best at their position enough to go to
Speaker 3: multiple Pro Bowls throughout their career.
Speaker 2: Mike Green could be an example.
Speaker 3: He may not be the best ad dresser in football,
Speaker 3: but he's going to be damn good. He's going to
Speaker 3: make a lot of noise. Tyler Booker would be a
Speaker 3: ten year starter opportunity, right, like somebody that's not going
Speaker 3: to be a Pro bowler or anything like that, but
Speaker 3: he's going to be a great player across the board.
Speaker 3: So taking those examples out of the occasion there, I
Speaker 3: just wanted to kind of outline it for those that
Speaker 3: might be listening.
Speaker 2: You're all pro, multi pro bowlers.
Speaker 3: And ten year starters. Look like we'll start with all prosvotch.
Speaker 7: Tyler book is gonna be fantastic, by the way, Okay,
Speaker 7: I just wanted to use an example. What all pros man.
Speaker 7: I'll go Andrew Macouba, the safety from Texas.
Speaker 2: He's my that's a good one.
Speaker 7: He's my safety one. And a lot of people ain't
Speaker 7: gonna fool with that, but they'll be all right. I
Speaker 7: love that there's not a lot of free safeties. You
Speaker 7: can just point at in the league and be like, oh,
Speaker 7: he's the best free safeties, like one, two or three
Speaker 7: of them, and he's the dude that gets picks. And
Speaker 7: if you're a free safety that can be a ballhawk
Speaker 7: and get picks. I got a ton of faith in you.
Speaker 7: So I have a crystal ball. I'm saying that he's
Speaker 7: gonna be one of the best free safeties in the
Speaker 7: whole game ever.
Speaker 5: All Right, what about you, Brian Mason Graham?
Speaker 9: I think is gonna be one of these guys when
Speaker 9: you start to talk about with this these defensive tackles,
Speaker 9: how active, he's going to find ways to make plays
Speaker 9: along the line of scrimmage. He's gonna make plays behind
Speaker 9: the line of scrimmage. He's gonna make place outside the
Speaker 9: tackle box. He's also gonna get your sacks and pro too.
Speaker 9: Mason Graham is going to be a multiple All Pro
Speaker 9: player for you in the NFL.
Speaker 6: Nice m you know what I'll go, uh Man, is
Speaker 6: this I don't want to go low hanging fruit here.
Speaker 6: Give me Tyler Warren Penn State, Yeah, tight end. I'm
Speaker 6: an advocate for Tyler Warren. I am, I mean, he
Speaker 6: holds Penn State tight end records for receptions only big
Speaker 6: ten tight end with four plus rushing touchdowns. This a
Speaker 6: guy can just do everything for you. And I think
Speaker 6: you saw the impact of brock Bauers was able to have.
Speaker 6: Now he's different, Like it doesn't look the same, the
Speaker 6: production can be the same. Brock Bower is a little
Speaker 6: bit more smooth, quicker route runnings, a little bit more clean.
Speaker 6: I totally get the clunkiness factor, right, That's why you
Speaker 6: get comms for Gronk when it comes to Tyler Warren.
Speaker 6: But the dude's just productive. He gets the game, he
Speaker 6: understands finding holes in his own coverage being able to
Speaker 6: get open. I think the blocking is good enough. I
Speaker 6: think he can improve there. But he's a very willing blocker.
Speaker 6: You see him wind up at full back sometimes and
Speaker 6: lead the way there. So to me, I mean anybody
Speaker 6: not named Travis Hunter ashenty in this draft, I'm betting
Speaker 6: on Tyler Warren to be an absolute stud.
Speaker 2: That's a really good one.
Speaker 3: I'll put Tetoa mcmill and that might be low hanging out.
Speaker 3: There's a chance he's a top five pick. I certainly
Speaker 3: have him as a top five player in this draft.
Speaker 3: I have said it before on the show. I think
Speaker 3: he's Mike Evans two point zero. I really do love
Speaker 3: to think the fight game. I agree with size, the versatility,
Speaker 3: the route running, I mean all of it, the deep
Speaker 3: threat ability. He's super consistent at all three levels. Give
Speaker 3: this guy the football, let him make some plays. Teteroa
Speaker 3: McMillan would be.
Speaker 2: My foresure bet at all pro moving forward.
Speaker 9: If he's there at twelve, I would take that player.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the other direction here, let's
Speaker 2: go with pro bowler, multi pro bowler. Who's on the
Speaker 2: list for that one?
Speaker 6: I think a mecheg Buca. You know, this is a dude.
Speaker 6: I just love his bill, his size. Played primarily in
Speaker 6: the slot this past year, but he's a tremendous blocker.
Speaker 6: You know, he's a guy that I think. You see
Speaker 6: what Jordan Addison's done with the Minnesota Vikings. He can
Speaker 6: come and he's always had to play second fiddle to
Speaker 6: whoever it was was a JSN last year, two years
Speaker 6: Joe's Martin Harrison Junior, last year's Jeremiah Smith. Like, this
Speaker 6: guy doesn't care, right, He's a selfless type of player,
Speaker 6: strong body control. Loved the dude, overall, he runs terrific routes.
Speaker 6: There's not a whole lot to knock when it comes
Speaker 6: to dig Bookie. He's one of the most clean players
Speaker 6: in this draft. Is he ever going to be an
Speaker 6: all Pro? I don't know, but I do think he's
Speaker 6: going to be one of the better wide receivers to
Speaker 6: come out of this draft. It's a good.
Speaker 2: Good spot for him.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Ceiling wise, Benjamin Morris, the corner from Notre Dame, I
Speaker 9: think is going to be a guy when he's if
Speaker 9: if the injury things check out about him. I mean,
Speaker 9: he's had a couple of things where he's dealt with hips,
Speaker 9: but it's six foot one and ninety pounds. This kid
Speaker 9: is super competitive. The lateral quickness, everything about him is outstanding.
Speaker 9: He plays with a fluid element to his game. You know,
Speaker 9: his back pedal is controlled and all that. He's able
Speaker 9: to kind of adjust in routes and stuff like that.
Speaker 9: I could see somebody taking him and just plugging him
Speaker 9: right in. He is so competitive in the way he plays.
Speaker 9: The only thing maybe holding back might be the injury stuff.
Speaker 9: But this guy's a hell of a football player.
Speaker 6: It's hips man.
Speaker 7: Oh, we'll go with Donovan Jackson. Yeah, I love that
Speaker 7: Ohio State right lines up. Whoops, folk move folk, and
Speaker 7: that's my favorite kind of guard.
Speaker 8: Just be cause y'all know, you.
Speaker 6: Know, he's the best offensive lineman in the draft.
Speaker 7: Hey man, you know, don't just be saying stuff like
Speaker 7: that is well, well, why didn't you have amia in
Speaker 7: your pro.
Speaker 6: I've talked about him in a couple of other platforms.
Speaker 6: I wanted to change it up.
Speaker 7: I think I think him having him having the ability
Speaker 7: to play a guard and tackle will bode well for
Speaker 7: those you know voters that like, you know, oh well
Speaker 7: he played guard and then he went to go play tackle.
Speaker 7: They love stories and storylines and things like that. Donovan
Speaker 7: Jacksons a guy this great for it, so he'll be
Speaker 7: a pro bowler at some point.
Speaker 6: I love that pick.
Speaker 2: That's a good one.
Speaker 3: I'll go with Jahadd Campbell, Alabama linebacker to be a
Speaker 3: Pro bowler again. He's he's a guy that's going to
Speaker 3: control your defense. He'll probably wear a green dot pretty
Speaker 3: early in his career. You're going to see him come
Speaker 3: in and immediately make an impact. But I think he
Speaker 3: still has room to grow into that spot and he
Speaker 3: may make an All Pro list at some point, but
Speaker 3: I think his ceiling is more so like a you
Speaker 3: think about what Zach Bond did the Eagles this past year.
Speaker 3: I'm not comparing the two players, but just think about
Speaker 3: the impact in the middle of a defense. He could
Speaker 3: be one hundred tackle guy a year. I think that
Speaker 3: would get him to a pro bowler two down the line.
Speaker 3: All right, ten year starter, but not good enough to
Speaker 3: be a perennial Pro bowler or an All Pro. Some
Speaker 3: guy that somebody that you can draft and is going
Speaker 3: to be for sure in your starting lineup.
Speaker 2: Brian, I'll let you.
Speaker 5: Start TJ Toomlow from Ohio j A.
Speaker 2: T T taking my guy.
Speaker 6: I thought I said that last one you got it
Speaker 6: to Milola, right.
Speaker 7: So I don't know if you imagine what you'lo.
Speaker 2: We got. We'll figure it out when.
Speaker 5: Well, this guy is gonna play.
Speaker 9: He's gonna play a long time in this league because
Speaker 9: he's a guy that when you look at him at
Speaker 9: Ohio State, he played a lot in college. He's a
Speaker 9: very steady player. There's nothing really expectactlar about his game.
Speaker 9: He plays the run, he could get you occasional pass.
Speaker 9: You can line him up in all different spots right there.
Speaker 9: This kid has not ever missed, has never missed a
Speaker 9: game in his college career. He is going to come
Speaker 9: into the league. He's gonna have the same kind of
Speaker 9: work ethic. He's gonna be productive. You're gonna love him.
Speaker 9: He's never gonna be probably good enough to be a
Speaker 9: Pro Bowl guy, but you're gonna love him on your
Speaker 9: defensive line.
Speaker 5: J T T.
Speaker 7: Do you think Roer Gray Zabel from North Dakota States
Speaker 7: as a center as everything? And that's why he's gonna
Speaker 7: be in the league. And one time, you know, we
Speaker 7: just we just wake up one day and we see
Speaker 7: these offensive line like, oh, Cody Fort playing guard for
Speaker 7: the Bengals. Now, like when that happened, right, I think
Speaker 7: Grays was gonna be one of those guys like he's
Speaker 7: he's probably gonna be a guard for somebody. He's gonna
Speaker 7: go to another school, another team and be like, oh,
Speaker 7: well can you play center for us?
Speaker 8: Fine?
Speaker 7: And I think in one pench he'll probably play tackle
Speaker 7: for somebody. You know, because he's on film playing everything.
Speaker 7: And I have a ton of confidence that he has
Speaker 7: great film everywhere. Some dudes just play everywhere, but they
Speaker 7: play it just to be playing everywhere. I think great
Speaker 7: Zabel has fantastic film. I'll say pretty good film. I
Speaker 7: don't want to say fantastic. He has pretty good film everywhere.
Speaker 7: And he went to the Senior Bowl and had some
Speaker 7: pretty good Senior Bowl practice lining up everywhere. I think
Speaker 7: that's worth being a ten year due for somebody.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go with Caleb Johnson, running back from Iowa.
Speaker 8: Oh Okay, he's gonna be a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3: He might be a Pro bowler, but I just don't
Speaker 3: know if I can see. And it's tough with running
Speaker 3: back because if you are going to be in the
Speaker 3: league for ten years as a running back, you're probably
Speaker 3: going to make.
Speaker 2: A Pro bowler too.
Speaker 3: But one of the more decorated running backs in Iowa
Speaker 3: program history. He had fifteen hundred rushing yards and twenty
Speaker 3: one touchdowns in his final season, led to big ten
Speaker 3: in both of those categories, but it was the six
Speaker 3: and a half yards per carry you talk about, explosive
Speaker 3: first step, smart, durable runner. The durable is where I'm
Speaker 3: putting ten years of his career together. He's got a
Speaker 3: wide base, allows for the good balance and ability to
Speaker 3: break tackles at the second level gets to the second
Speaker 3: level first, and the vision and timing as he waits
Speaker 3: for those blocks to develop is all very fantastic. Good
Speaker 3: red zone runner, which means even if he does lose
Speaker 3: a step eight nine years down the line, I still
Speaker 3: think he's a guy that could be in the mix.
Speaker 3: So I know it's kind of risky to take a
Speaker 3: running back and put place a ten year tag on him,
Speaker 3: but I think he if there was a guy that
Speaker 3: could do it, and he's going to outlast the rest
Speaker 3: of the running backs in this class.
Speaker 2: I think Caleb Johnson is the guy to do that.
Speaker 6: Well, Brian poached my guy, JTT, who is better than
Speaker 6: Captain Jack Sawyer's teammate by the way, I'll fighting, I
Speaker 6: know you're watching. Wow, JTT is a better roll around
Speaker 6: Player's gonna better NFL player than his teammate. There, why
Speaker 6: do you hate? I don't hate Sawyer. I don't hate Sawyer.
Speaker 6: I just JGTS is one of the guys that's being
Speaker 6: slept on in this year's draft, Like he Bury Marshaw
Speaker 6: Neelan like to me, like, is he ever gonna be
Speaker 6: a double digit sack guy? I don't know, but I
Speaker 6: feel that He's going to be good for a long
Speaker 6: long time in the year.
Speaker 2: You feel good about marshaon Neelan, that's good?
Speaker 6: I do now, yeah, I do?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 6: Whyatt milem Let's go while Milea out of West Virginia
Speaker 6: started thirty two to thirty six games, including thirty one
Speaker 6: in a row. Iron Mountaineer Award did not allow a
Speaker 6: sacker quarterback hitting his junior season in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6: He's played right tackle as a freshman that moved to
Speaker 6: left tackle. He played defensive tackle in high school. She's
Speaker 6: got a little bit of that, that defensive mentality as well.
Speaker 6: I like this guy. I think he can pull around
Speaker 6: the edge. She's impressive. I thought against Abdol Carter and
Speaker 6: the opener. I think you can play tackle if you
Speaker 6: need him to. But he's ideally a guard. I like
Speaker 6: him in a phone booth working combo blocks with the
Speaker 6: tackler of the center. I think he's a clean player,
Speaker 6: and he showed a tremendous amount of consistency on tape.
Speaker 6: Strong upper body, smooth lateral movement. I think he can
Speaker 6: sink his hips, play with good pad level. He does
Speaker 6: play with braces right, two big old braces on those knees.
Speaker 6: But who the hell's not these days? I feel like
Speaker 6: every one of these offensive line and you're watching.
Speaker 3: They're looking at CINEC right now, and there's not a
Speaker 3: single person on the ope.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're all wearing these big old braces.
Speaker 2: No, they none of them had a brace.
Speaker 6: Oh Cincinnati, Well that's why their offense line that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: probably spend a minute of the damn Breakay, go ahead,
Speaker 6: get those braces. But he's a finisher and I like
Speaker 6: that when it comes to dude like Wyatt Milen, He's
Speaker 6: that's some meanness to his game.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: Any honorable mentions of this group that we've kind of
Speaker 3: been thinking out somebody that you might have wanted to
Speaker 3: talk about but didn't get a chance to just before
Speaker 3: we close out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've got one four year two if I could.
Speaker 9: I want to talk about this young man because we
Speaker 9: get to him though, but because I think I think
Speaker 9: Exavier watch the safety Notre Dame. Yeah, you know Notre Dame.
Speaker 9: All of a sudden, you know their defense and what
Speaker 9: they've been able to do. You know, the playoff run
Speaker 9: they had. Xavier wats a big part of that. He
Speaker 9: is a right time. He's at the right time kind
Speaker 9: of a player. You know, he's always in position, he
Speaker 9: gets turnovers. This guy was a converted wide receiver. That's
Speaker 9: just I think his best football is ahead of him
Speaker 9: playing safety. I wouldn't call him an elite athlete, but
Speaker 9: he moves and he runs well, and he really trusts
Speaker 9: his eyes and the way he plays, and you could
Speaker 9: tell that's the way he does. I think he's going
Speaker 9: to play in the league for a long long time.
Speaker 9: Xavier Watts Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: That's a good one.
Speaker 6: Hi, I playery. I put in my notes like, I'm
Speaker 6: not sure how you can dislike this guy when you
Speaker 6: Watchets He's tough, he's awesome.
Speaker 8: Real.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Zach just likes guys that play in
Speaker 3: cornfields because I know Notre Dame's not in a cornfield,
Speaker 3: but he's from Omaha.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, he's from Omaha.
Speaker 6: I do you like me some Nebraska as well? Go
Speaker 6: big Red? How about Alfred Collins, defensive tackle from Texas.
Speaker 6: All right, we're talking a lot about these defensive tackles
Speaker 6: in Alfred Collins's name is not getting mentioned enough. Fifth
Speaker 6: year senior let all Texas d Lineman with seven pass breakups.
Speaker 2: He had a rep in that Georgian da.
Speaker 6: And I've said it before and I know it's crazy.
Speaker 6: I don't want to compare him to this guy because
Speaker 6: this is elite level play, but he has flashes of
Speaker 6: Chris Jones to me when I watch him play. I
Speaker 6: love Alfred Collins where he technically sound second round forty four,
Speaker 6: I'd take him there, and I think he's better than
Speaker 6: t J.
Speaker 2: Sanders.
Speaker 6: I think he's better than day On Walker.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 6: To me, I like him more than Walter Nolan, I
Speaker 6: do personally. But he's disruptive. He can push the pocket,
Speaker 6: it works, stunts well, shot and shed gets off blocks.
Speaker 6: But he's great in the run game. I mean to me,
Speaker 6: this is a one tag that is also going to
Speaker 6: give you really good pass rush ability. So he is
Speaker 6: going to shut down the run, can take on double teams,
Speaker 6: he can improve his finish like. He's easy guy that
Speaker 6: does have some warts to his game. He's not perfect
Speaker 6: by any means or else. I'd advocate him for twelve,
Speaker 6: but I love Alfred Collins and in a really stacked
Speaker 6: defensive tackle draft, he's a guy that I'll stand on
Speaker 6: the table for and I'll fight for Alfred Collins.
Speaker 2: And you might be on that island alone there, fine
Speaker 2: with me, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Go for it.
Speaker 9: Jordan Phillips, I think is a better player for Maryland.
Speaker 9: And I also feel like that CJ. West from Indiana
Speaker 9: is a better player.
Speaker 6: Oh. I saw both of them live and Shrine Bowl
Speaker 6: with you vatch, but I would disagree on both of those.
Speaker 8: Tyler Williams Ohio State.
Speaker 6: I like tylerk Lot.
Speaker 8: Tyler Wiives is a bad boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good.
Speaker 6: I've got Tyler and he moves like a g They're
Speaker 6: both right there in the second round.
Speaker 7: For me, Well, Tyler Williams is a guy that I'm
Speaker 7: gonna go with. And you know, he's not a guy
Speaker 7: that just does one thing, but he's bad at another thing.
Speaker 7: He's powerful, strong, and he moves like great effort, great
Speaker 7: movement for his size. I think he has a really
Speaker 7: good first steps. Is bad at Alfric Collins. Yeah, I
Speaker 7: don't think Collins is a complete player just yet. I
Speaker 7: think he's really athletic. I think he can be a
Speaker 7: consistent run player sometimes, but I think sometimes he gets
Speaker 7: lost in the fight, Like like.
Speaker 5: Question, you see him losing the ball.
Speaker 7: Like he'll get engaged with the offensive lineman and it
Speaker 7: becomes be fighting this offensive lineman. But he gets but
Speaker 7: he forgets the fundamental things that I think he has
Speaker 7: the upside to be a really good pass rusher from
Speaker 7: the inside, but he doesn't really have the hands in
Speaker 7: the tool belt just yet. But he's a he's a
Speaker 7: ball of clay ish, really good athlete, one tech guy.
Speaker 2: So like, would you have trouble with forty four?
Speaker 8: Yeah? I have problem?
Speaker 5: Would yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, because because and this goes back to our Nolan
Speaker 7: Uh he's around there. So I got Collins in the
Speaker 7: fourth round, and that's all right.
Speaker 14: Wow.
Speaker 7: So these are the guys I got. These are the
Speaker 7: guys I got better than Collins, Graham, Grant Williams, Harmon
Speaker 7: no Lynd TJ. Sanders Chang's not better Darius Alexander like Toledo, Norman, C. J.
Speaker 7: West uh uh, Jordan Phillips. And I got Deon Walker.
Speaker 7: I might switch Dean Walker thre because he looking a
Speaker 7: little laser right now.
Speaker 2: But I'm halfway with with Tyler Williams.
Speaker 6: I just got lacks consistency.
Speaker 8: Tyler.
Speaker 7: This is my problem with with you saying that he
Speaker 7: least consists This is my problem with you saying that
Speaker 7: because you love Dereck Harmon, Right, And I went back
Speaker 7: and did a deep dive on on on On Harmon,
Speaker 7: and I think his best game was like Boise or
Speaker 7: something like that. He was going to have to beating
Speaker 7: the hell out the boys State kids.
Speaker 6: But I didn't stay it was pret damn good too.
Speaker 7: Sure, I thought he fell off a little bit versus
Speaker 7: some of the better guys, Right, I didn't think Tylee
Speaker 7: fell off at all. And this is versus Texas, Penn State, Michigan,
Speaker 7: this is versus Tennessee, Notre Dame. I don't think Tyler
Speaker 7: with the playoff he stood out. I don't think he has.
Speaker 7: But if you're watching for the.
Speaker 6: Playoffs, if you if you watch him before the playoff,
Speaker 6: which is what I did because I've seen him before
Speaker 6: the playoffs started, he definitely is. He got that. I
Speaker 6: thought had some consistency issues with his game. I want
Speaker 6: to see him put together more consistency. I think he's
Speaker 6: a flash player, is what I played.
Speaker 8: He was a flash player.
Speaker 6: Hey, Jack sawyer as send it in the playoff, which
Speaker 6: is hey, there's something to be said about that, right,
Speaker 6: big time games. But I think some of the stuff.
Speaker 6: You're knocking Outfred Collins for I could go ahead and
Speaker 6: pick apart Tyler Williams too, if that's what we want
Speaker 6: to do here.
Speaker 8: I think I think it shows about hold on me
Speaker 8: and me and Wilson.
Speaker 7: I think Tyler Wiggs beat the hell out of all
Speaker 7: the misky kids, out of all the Penn State kids
Speaker 7: that he ran even the Oregon guys right like you know,
Speaker 7: like he had a he he ran into them.
Speaker 6: And Alfred Collins was being the hell out of Georgia
Speaker 6: both times they played. Did it against Ohio statt A Well.
Speaker 5: He got knocked around against Georgia and that.
Speaker 9: Oh no, the first the second first one got knocked around.
Speaker 2: The whole Texas team had played.
Speaker 6: He played against against.
Speaker 7: I'll just say this, I think I think Williams is
Speaker 7: the face of like playing in playout, game in game
Speaker 7: game in came out, consistency. And he's the three hundred
Speaker 7: and I think he's three. He looks three forty. And
Speaker 7: he does look big and and and and and he's
Speaker 7: not just doing the eight gap stuff like if they're
Speaker 7: running sweeps and outside zon he's hot tailing his over
Speaker 7: there to the outside.
Speaker 6: He's that one tech that can also give you all
Speaker 6: that wiggle that you want. I like Tyler Williams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's uh, he's my third guy after Grant.
Speaker 6: But I don't think there's a big drop off between
Speaker 6: him and now for Collins at all.
Speaker 2: Well, I actually have them touching tags. I have Williams
Speaker 2: ahead of Collins, but they're right there for me.
Speaker 8: Bryan, you go because shaking.
Speaker 9: No, No, we're running out of time. I'm with you
Speaker 9: on this one, though. Watch I'm you have him further down,
Speaker 9: much further. Where do you have him?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I have him in the fourth round? Oh coins, where
Speaker 9: do you have just I have in the in the
Speaker 9: let's see where I have Tyler Williams. I think I
Speaker 9: had him in the second round, should have in a
Speaker 9: second in the second. Grant Williams Harmon won my three
Speaker 9: second round. Where do you have Sanders in the third?
Speaker 8: Third round?
Speaker 9: I got Sanders Norman Lott hyphenated name there, and then
Speaker 9: Alexander in the third Alexander?
Speaker 8: What round you got?
Speaker 6: Third?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, I got me in three.
Speaker 3: I haven't watched Alexander yet as a bad boy, A
Speaker 3: really good from Toledo. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna go a
Speaker 3: lot higher than he was a senior Bowl guy, but
Speaker 3: I didn't his tape from true.
Speaker 6: Okay, Alexander Norman Lott. Who do you like more? There?
Speaker 2: Norman Lott? Right now, I've got Norman Lot over Alexander.
Speaker 7: I have, I have Norman Lott. Pardon me, I gotta okay?
Speaker 7: So okay, I got normally see this is my thing, right,
Speaker 7: Norman Lott is the bona fide pass rush guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Alexander does everything right like Alexander.
Speaker 7: Little Alexander over Norman lat But Norman Latt does what
Speaker 7: the league wants. Was the past rushy thing. So I'm
Speaker 7: a probably just flip flopping. But I got Alexander over Norman.
Speaker 6: Okay, let's go.
Speaker 7: Yes, this is this is a fluid board. I will
Speaker 7: I will change it whenever I feel and we see
Speaker 7: Alexander though, Alexander, that's a great point though.
Speaker 3: Remember when you're building the boards at home and you're
Speaker 3: taking notes and you're watching this show and you're thinking
Speaker 3: about everything, things will change. There's still sixty five days
Speaker 3: to the NFL Draft. It's all gonna be fluid, it's
Speaker 3: all gonna change. We may come back in a month
Speaker 3: and a half and Zach's gonna have Tyler Williams over.
Speaker 6: Alfie might have to be my number one defensive back.
Speaker 6: Figure it out along the way.
Speaker 2: But that's what's fun.
Speaker 5: Time became.
Speaker 8: All right.
Speaker 2: That does it for us here on the Draft Show
Speaker 2: sixty five days.
Speaker 3: As I said, from the NFL Draft, We'll be back
Speaker 3: on Thursday to continue breaking it down for you. We're
Speaker 3: gonna talk to some assistant coaches, maybe get a better
Speaker 3: idea of how this board's starting to come together. Momentarily,
Speaker 3: I wonder if anybody's asking draft questions. I hope Bobby's
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