WEBVTT - The Afterlives of Quentin Deranque, Pt. 2 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:04.960 Also media. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.520 We're picking back up at the rally where Quentin was 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.840 in the capacity of security for Nemesis. At some point 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:17.320 a confrontation developed between anti fascists and brown shirts. Clearly 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.600 the instigator depends on the political orientation of the media 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:21.480 that reports on it. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:23.640 But we've all seen scuffles like this. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:25.720 It's just they don't usually devolve to a point where 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.680 someone dies, Like I can I can imagine, I don't know, 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.120 I can imagine the outbreak of this scuffle because we've 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:32.599 all seen it. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.599 Yeah, exactly. I'm not going to like litigate on who 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.800 started or who not. I'll never know and it doesn't. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:40.560 Matter because it doesn't matter. 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.199 Yeah. But I found an independent, while left fleaning a 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:48.239 media website, contre Attique. They published several pieces on the 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.199 events with claims that the fascists started to rawl. I 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.440 find that one personally also more credible because they have 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.880 multiple videos of photos of the far right being there 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:02.760 with weapons including iron bars, scrutches, motorcycle helmets, and at 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:03.840 least one smoker egg. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.720 I mean, they showed up to someone else's event to 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:08.960 disrupt it, to cause a problem. When they got in 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.640 the middle of it, they brought weapons. It's hard to 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.600 say who started the fight, but I can tell who 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.319 wanted to exactly. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.240 Like I've seen security at events and protests, but I've 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.039 never okay, unless they were cops, I've never seen them 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:22.920 carrying weapons. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:23.399 Oh I have. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.560 Well, that's more common in the United States. It's very 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.440 common here. Oh wow, okay, Oh is that a pipe 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:30.160 in his hands? 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.399 Yes, it is. 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:35.120 So he's wearing a balaclava and carrying a pipe. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:35.800 Yeah. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.400 Yeah, it's not a great look, kind of classic. You're 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.800 a NUTSI fit skinny jeans. 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:45.800 The sneakers, always the sneakers, always one of those little unders. 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:48.800 Yeah, yeah, of course I got to pick a brand 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.720 that yeah, since the beginning. Maybe some pumas in that. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.720 Of course, this will sup pumas in there. Here's another picture. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.240 It's like you can also see the motorcycle helmet in 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:02.760 here in disguise hands. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.080 Oh yeah, okay, yeah. 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:05.960 Most like a Hummu's great because it's you put it 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:07.560 on to protect your head or you can hit somebody 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.720 with it. Because he's holding it in his hand, he 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.040 is not wearing it. That's a weapon. Yeah, but you 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.000 have the plausible deniability of I rode my motorcycle here 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:17.200 or this is for defense. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.519 That's what I also found. They often use like things 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.760 that you could really have with like they also use 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:27.840 belts or sticks and stuff that you could carry with shackles, 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:30.880 slack poles, like stuff that you could carry with you 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.120 with you without it being as immediately recognized as a weapon, 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:36.560 like if you were carrying nights. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:38.839 After you use it as a weapon, it doesn't look 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.359 like premeditation because I just had this, Yeah, the pipe. 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.000 I don't know why you would just have a whole pipe. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.840 Now he was onnest way to do some plumbing Mario 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:47.520 and Luigi. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.520 Yeah, maybe he found maybe he found it. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.440 I can imagine myself carrying a sledgehammer and be like, no, officer, 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:54.000 this is my. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:55.840 I was on my way to break big rocks into 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:56.440 small rocks. 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.960 Yeah exactly, I'm a fence. I don't think that would 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.200 fly to be hones us, but those I wanted to 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:02.920 share as well. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:04.880 So he did show up with a pipe. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:06.760 That wasn't him. I didn't think he wasn't pipe that 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.960 was that was one of his friends. That was one 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:10.960 of that was one of the far right act that 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:15.079 was present there. One media account said he was wearing 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.480 a blue hoodie Quentin, and I haven't seen that in 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:19.800 the pictures that I could find. 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:20.440 Well, it looks like. 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.720 The only confirmed photograph of him is that one that 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.600 was provided by his family's lawyer to the media, So 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.639 we don't know if any of those other photos even 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:29.359 are him, right. 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.520 No, there's also not that much footage of it, to 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:33.440 be honest. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.360 Right, but I guess there is the footage of him 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.400 like lying on the ground, but I mean, like, yeah, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.520 like the only the only picture of his face is 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:40.960 that one that was provided to the media by his 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:41.920 family and so. 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.720 Far as I found, yes, yeah, and then and one 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.160 of the few of the articles, there's like one where 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.520 he's like half Ballaclov out up. But then that was 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.960 at some Nazi rallia in Lyon, So so it. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.680 Still wasn't his first Nazi No it was. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.360 It was not Okay, in any case, I think you 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:59.520 would have a hard time defending that it was purely 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:04.240 self the on part of the security of that counter demonstration. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.800 Again, no one is saying that he deserved to be 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.040 beaten to death. We're just trying to figure out what 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:09.680 happened here. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:14.520 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Concratique also published another article on February 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:19.839 twentieth about acts of violence from fascist militants in just Lyon. 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:21.920 There had been around one hundred and two acts of 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.080 violence as of twenty ten. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.520 Yeah, that's one of vast pot From what I understand. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.360 There's lots of groups that formed in response to the 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.440 fascist threats that were there, and also a lot of 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.240 the fascist violence is them just harassing brown people or 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:44.440 like Muslim people, So it's hard to get a proper estimate. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.440 But I found this one very detailed. They mentioned like 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.719 from the top of their head, like twenty five different instances. 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:53.679 The article for that will be in the show notes 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.279 so people can read it themselves. Okay, now I'll cite 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:03.680 this from France Info fr eyewitness accounts from residents who 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:07.880 saw the flight fighting take place. Christine also witnessed the violence. 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.520 I saw a fight over there with lots of young people. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.360 They were hitting each other, hitting each other, hitting each other, 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.080 and then I saw a young man fall, she recounts. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:20.279 Maxim also saw the attackers flee. They shouted disperse when 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.920 they saw I think that they might have hit him hard. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.640 They went off into all the streets. Everyone got out 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:29.240 of their cars, some guys on scooters stopped. They put him, 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.680 I assume Quentin in the recovery position. The resident explains. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:38.000 Neighbors then came to aid the injured. Another neighbor, Willem, 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.360 saw him get up after being beaten. I went outside. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.640 I saw someone with blood on his hands. He looked 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.600 a bit dazed. He was just standing. But he refused 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.080 to go to the hospital, even though they offered to. 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:52.120 I just saw the people talking to him who told 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.960 him to go to the hospital. In any case, what 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.480 is certain is that he refused. 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.400 So this was a much large It wasn't like ten 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.800 on one. It was like a group versus a group. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.279 It was a group versus a group. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:04.840 Yeah, it was a melee. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:09.479 Yeah, Okay, I'm not sure which article exactly was, but 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.800 said that the fighting went on for like five minutes, 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:12.800 which is a long. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.400 It doesn't sound like a long, but for a fight 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.039 that's like a long, it's a lot of minutes to 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:16.560 be fighting. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:22.440 Yeah, fighting is normally pretty fast, especially fighting of this 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:23.880 level of violence. 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.520 Especially if you're getting hit the head with a pipe. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:27.040 Or a motorcycle helmet. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.680 Yeah, there's a little video of it, Like I've seen 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.360 a couple of very small videos of the actual confrontation. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.479 It's not like it gives the impression like because of 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.120 the big repercussions, this was like a huge set piece, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.679 but it's not. It's like what three dozen people maybe 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.880 at most. Yeah, and it was just like in some 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:50.000 streets looks like street corner. Yeah, it wasn't a battle 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.080 of thermopili or something. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.440 Yeah. I'm sponsored by not being able to pronounce foreign 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.240 words outside of English. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:06:59.720 Well, and you could just tell us that that's how 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.240 it's in Dutch and we would all have to believe you, 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:03.760 because we're not going to find out. 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.240 I'm con to use that as a caveat the next time. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.680 That's how we say it in the Netherlands, stupid Americans. 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.840 Yes, I'll be saved by the fact that like Denmark 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.560 and the Netherlands, nobody speaks to judge or that they 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:21.280 confused Danish with Dutch, which is also very funny. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.320 But also yeah, I did see some kind of funny 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:25.200 posts regarding Greenland with that. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.280 Ah, Okay, then we're at entering a whole other discussion. 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:29.880 Yeah. 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:34.160 But anyway, after the fighting, about half an hour and 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.120 a half later in the full Chiron District on the 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.600 banks of the San Quentin was evacuated in serious conditioned 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.760 by firefighters. To get there, he had to walk more 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.720 than a kilometer and a half, cross too bridges, and 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.240 traverse the Lyon Peninsula. His route between the attack and 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.560 his rival at the hospital is unknown, So. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.920 Sounds like he's just sort of staggered off disoriented, is 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.559 something like that, because he was probably bleeding in his brain. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.440 Yeah, he like he has a TV I right, I 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.880 would imagine. So I just find it's incredibly sad. To 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.560 be honest, it is sad, but. 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.120 Also the like so like these bystanders are saying, hey, man, like, 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.040 let's get you an ambulance to get to the hospital. 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.040 Where were his friends that he walked off alone? 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:16.960 Yeah? 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:18.720 Where were the guys he came with? Were the guys 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.040 that were fighting on his side? How did he manage 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.360 to walk off alone? So these people want to make 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.320 him a martyr, but like they're the ones let him die. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:28.800 This is also why I'm like, I'm not going to 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.760 say he was Lee Beatson, because like, who knows. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.319 It sounds like a lot of people have some responsibility here. 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.040 If you die, if you die after being hit in 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:39.160 the head, the person who hit you in the head 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.679 killed you. That's what it works. But like, why did 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.400 his friends let him walk away alone? 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.040 Yeah, knowing he was injured, right, No, even. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:47.720 If he weren't injured. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.080 You never walk away from something like this alone because 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:51.600 someone could follow you and keep beating you. 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.120 Yeah, if there are people who are trying to hurt you, 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:55.960 the best time for them to do it is when 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:56.640 you're on your own. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.080 Like, you never leave an action alone. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.520 Yeah, thing, Like I guess I should just say, like, 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:05.679 I don't know when you fucking hit people in the head. 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.080 This is one of the consequences that is on the 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.959 list of possible consequences. Like, I fucking hate people who 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.880 hit people in the head come from a place in 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.800 the world where like that kind of violence is more 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:21.160 common because guns are less accessible to people. And like, yeah, 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.240 people are going to fucking die sometimes when you do that, 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:24.000 Like it's serious. 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.320 You don't have to intend to have killed them, Like 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.080 you one get punch to the head in an otherwise 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:30.320 very fair, normal fight. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:31.439 Yeah, someone could die. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.520 Yeah, people have died from a single punch to the 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:35.600 head that started to fight and ended their life. At 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.280 the same time, I think people sometimes you know, you 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.600 watch boxing or wrestling or whatever, and you see people 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.120 fighting very hard and not dying. But like, you find 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.000 someone with your bare knuckles to their bare head, and 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:48.760 they could die, even if it's only once, and if 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:49.600 you didn't mean to you. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.400 Yeah, it's just one one small vein in, one vein 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.840 that gets nicked that can cause off a whole lot 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.400 of trouble in the head. Yeah, and even if it's 0:09:58.440 --> 0:09:59.800 not deaf, then they're still. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.960 Like life altering consequences. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:06.680 Be careful with your brain, kids, Yeah. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.360 Which is why you need to wear the helmets on 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:08.720 your head instead of in a hand. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.080 It's just using it as a bludgeon. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.120 Yeah. Yeah, I can only come back to l I 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.679 find it sad because it's a death that may may 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:20.120 have been preventable with like proper medical intervention, also with 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.240 like friends that that should have begged him. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.400 Yeah, it's pretty sad that this guy felt like he 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.400 was part of something and those guys left him to 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:28.360 die alone on the street. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.000 Late it's now they're trying to take his death and 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:32.559 profit from it politically. 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.040 And then yeah, he's only useful to him when he's 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:35.600 fucking dead. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.280 I mean, you know, he's he's a little horse vessel. 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:39.840 Yeah, that's a nature of fascism. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.920 But yeah, it's almost exactly like Charlie Kirk, where he 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:46.680 was more useful as a martyr than when he was 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.559 just a propagandist. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.319 But then he turned out not to even be good 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:50.640 at that. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.800 I don't think we can fault him for being about 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.200 martyr for all the things. Of all the things we 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.480 can criticize Charlie Kirk for, that is not one of Yeah, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:01.480 it's not on him. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.119 Right, But I think in order to have a successful martyrdom, 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.520 you have to have someone to blame, and there was 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.360 just not enough publicity around the guy who actually killed 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.640 Charlie Kirk, you know what I mean? Like, you know, 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:16.559 horse vessel was killed by communists, so we're mad at communists, 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:16.880 but like. 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.600 There was an attempt to pin that on the trans community, right, 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.240 like it did didn't seek the landing, and it didn't work. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.840 Should say that guy is accused of killing Curly Church 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:26.280 as well? 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.240 Exactly I don't know, but that the right is constantly 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.400 trying to create a horse vessel and it just kind 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:33.200 of never works. 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.600 Yeah, well, I mean that's how the Spanish Civil War 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.839 started as well, right, like they. It was probably easier 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.160 in an age with less information and like party propaganda. 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:43.960 I mean these days, these days, we would all be 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.280 talking about like was horse vessel opinion. 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:47.679 It kind of seems like maybe. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.880 He would have had a Twitter account and we would. 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.640 Have and we would have said what was he doing 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:53.840 with all those girls? 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.040 Or we would have found his racist tweets? Oh well 0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:58.640 that would. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.360 It seems like a local the head of his local 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.439 strum up ti long. Of course he had racist tweets, 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:08.679 but being a pimp is not conducive to traditional Aryan values. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:14.480 Please, okay, okay, okay, there goes my career change. God 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:27.560 damn it. I'm now going into the last section, which 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.320 is about what happened here in your treks. They attempted 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.840 to martyr him, and the Fed Netherlands had said we're 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:37.239 coming to the Aku to hold the vigil for him. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:42.360 The Netherlands is an umbrella term is not the perfect word. 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.520 There's lots of local defense chapters, but they have like 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.680 we're ready organized, but they also have like a main 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:54.439 telegram group. So these are people who explicitly came to you, 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:58.080 trecked to hold this visual. The reason why I think 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.360 is because they think aku A you as stands for 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:05.400 Antifa center you trecked. Oh wow, yes, it used to be. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.319 It used to be a former auto garage back in 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.760 the eighties. I think, so it says for auto center, 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:12.240 you trecht. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:13.600 Oh my god. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.679 Yes, I'm at the auto show up, I'm at the 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.400 Anti Picenter, I'm in a combination auto show up, Anti. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.319 Center, I'm at the Four Seasons total landscape. 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:28.240 That's what it is. Yeah, but it was a pretty 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:33.000 big deal because for reasons that I still can't understand, 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:37.280 Like the mayor didn't like instantly ban this very obvious 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:41.400 intimidation at ten ten threats hold official in your backyard 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.480 or something. It's like, there's absolutely no reason to travel 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.440 to U Trekt to hold that visual other than the 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:48.959 being threatening and intimidating. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:50.800 But I think that's part of why they love trying 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.040 to make these martyrs. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:52.240 Is because it. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.120 Again, it's this like being the victim, like they. 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.080 Killed one of us. How can this isn't politicism political? 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.120 You can't ban our event, right, This isn't a Nazi rally, 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:01.960 it's a vigil. 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.720 It's this victimhood thing, and it does make you harder 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.200 to suppress. 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.640 Yeah, I still find it. I'm unbelievable at the local 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.120 authorities didn't do it. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:14.640 It's tacky. 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:19.000 I was also there that evening because when I do 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.040 activist stuff, I mostly do like like first aid at 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:23.600 events or protests. 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:25.800 Very noble, somebody's got to do it. 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.000 I'm not a confrontational person. So yeah, I'll give you 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.360 a band aid later. That's that's that's where where I'm good. 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:36.280 You're a non combatant exactly. And I actually came from 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.880 the office that day, so I was also looking very inconspicuous, 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.240 which was good because I ended up standing between my 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.120 left all all the anti fascists that are by right, 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.240 all the black lift fascists, and I was like and 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:50.600 then two lines of. 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.280 Like riot, I'm just a band aid guy. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.080 Yeah, So like get in a narrow alley. So I left, 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:59.520 I'm unclosed. On my right, I'm enclosed. And then this girl, 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.280 boss Ca comes up to me like, do you want 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.000 to get out of here? I was like, yes, it 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.720 seems like it could go wrong, and then she guided 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.400 me through the fucking fascists. 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.360 Yeah, I like to I like to be a lot 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.160 closer to an exit than nasive. Good are you? 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.920 So it's It's even worse because I was I was 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.880 with someone who was also doing first aids, and we 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.960 tried to get back to the location and we accidentally 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.080 went into an alley that at a dead end, and 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.920 when we turned around that were nat season walking there. 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:34.800 I was like, oh fuck, no. Yeah, but I think 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.000 they just thought that it was a way around and 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:38.880 had just followed also because they thought it was a 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.400 way through, they didn't actually like control us or anything. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.880 That makes my tummy hertmic. I don't like that. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.280 It was one of the worst scary moments. I'm going 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.680 to admit that. Anyway. The fan Nelands mostly carried the 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.760 picture I sent you with like the bad AI sketch 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:57.400 of a photo of Quintin. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.160 Okay, I'm sorry. If I ever get. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.800 Murdered and you're holding a rally for my memory, use 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.000 a real fucking picture of. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.320 Yeah, this is real. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.760 Okay they're using they're using a fake picture of a 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:11.240 more handsome guy. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.360 Yeah, the other didn't flect that. 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.240 You said yes, Like I'm saying, like, use a good 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.360 picture of me, you know, like like a cute picture, 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.200 but like they're using a fake. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.240 Picture of a more handsome guy. Because this guy was 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:22.920 weird looking. 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.520 Yeah, the person who is on the flag and the 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.560 BBC article, that's just straight up not him. It's not 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.200 it's not a guy who looks like him. It's not 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.120 a rendering of him by AI. 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:33.840 That is like. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:39.000 Old school German propaganda of like an Aryan. Yeah, they're 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.040 like an Aryan specimen, where like this was like a 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.520 skinny little guy who's half a Spanic. 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.080 Tina Latino Latino. Yeah. 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:50.680 Like it's just disrespectful to his memory to whitewash him 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:51.760 and make him more handsome. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:53.520 You were not a good enough martyr. 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.840 We had to find a better looking guy to pretend 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.480 was you so we can profit politically from your murder. 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.200 What pictured of you do we to do use morely 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:02.680 in the event, Oh. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.040 Yeah, I should, I should, I should pre yeah exactly. 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.160 And then you can also select which which photo we're 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.159 going to use, on which we're going to put on 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:10.680 the banners. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.960 But it's like they don't actually care about this man. 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.760 Most people holding those banners don't know that's not him. 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.080 Yeah, I undertand they don't. It's a very empty performance. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.080 I'm performing outrage over the like the theoretical death of 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.360 a guy whose politics were similar to mine, yeah. 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.600 But defend Netherlands. They also carried what we call the 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.520 Princess flag in the Netherlands. 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.840 Princess flag, yeah, the flag of the Prince, oh, princess. 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.080 Yeah, and it's a it's a variational on the flag 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.520 that we have right now, but it was co opted 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.320 by the Dutch National Socialist Party prior and during World 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:46.200 War Two, so it's now heavily associated with those groups, 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:48.720 and that is the flag they choose to carry. 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.399 I'm just skeptical of all flags, Like, unless I'm one 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.879