1 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Hello Folds fans, and welcome back to another episode of 2 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: the Two Minute Drill. I'm Amanda Foster, joined today by 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: JJ Stankowitz on this Friday morning here to catch you 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: up on the last few weeks of Colts training camp 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: and give you all the information you need heading into 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: tomorrow's preseason game against the Green Bay Packers. Now, Jj, 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: we just wrapped up training camp yesterday had a joint 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: practice with the Green Bay Packers. But before we get 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: into all of that quickly, want to run through some 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: injuries that we've seen in the last week or so. 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Last Sunday during practice, Alec Pearson Kennymore the Second both 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: left practice with respective injuries. Pierce had a groin injury 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: and More had a knee injury. Neither one participated in 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: the two practices we had this past week, but head 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: coach Shane steike And said yesterday both are doing well 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: and neither injury looked to be too serious. 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: Both guys were on the sidelines, walking, chatting, generally seemed 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: to be in good spirits. 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Josh Downs left Thursday's practice yesterday with a hamstring injury 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: and Samson Ebucom left with a back injury. No real 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: updates from Stik and yet on those two, but definitely 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: things to monitor, especially. 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: Going into Saturday's game. 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: And then Jalen Jones and Juju Brent Juju Brents excuse me, 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: continue nuts practice as well as Khalil Herbert, Quitty Paid, 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: Nick Cross, and Jayalen Parlai. 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: Is just for some of the other big names that 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: people might be looking for on Saturday that we likely 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 2: will not be seeing. 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: I had someone ask me, is this normal for training camp? 31 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: And it yes and no, right, Like, it's normal for 32 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: guys to get kind of nicked up during training camp, 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 3: you know, where you might have something here, something there 34 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: that you know, depending on the severity of it, you 35 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: might try to play through in the regular season. Yeah, 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: but in training camp it's like, no, no, no, we 37 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: don't want this to linger for the regular season. Me, 38 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: it's only two and a half weeks away, right open, 39 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: I mean like two three weeks away, whatever it is, 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: So it's it is coming up fast. So you don't 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: want these things, like you want to have Alec Pearce 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: and Kenny Moore the second and Nick Cross and Quitty 43 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: Pay and those guys available for the start of the 44 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: regular season. The biggest question I have with injuries, Amanda 45 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: is just like, when will Jalen Jones and Juju Brance 46 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: get back out there? Yes, that is the only thing 47 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: that we've heard from Shane Steichen is that Jalen Jones 48 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: injury is a little they're both hamstrings. Jalen Jones is 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: a little more severe than Juju Brants. 50 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: So, but there's no timetable. 51 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: There's no timetable on it. Will we see one of 52 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: them go come back to practice next week? Will in 53 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: two weeks when the Cults of their last week of 54 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: sort of preseason practice before Labor Day, when we see 55 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: someone come back. Will they be back for that first 56 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: week of Miami practice? Will they not be back for 57 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: week one at all? Well, a lot of questions there, 58 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: And with roster cuts coming on what day is roster cuts, 59 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: Let's see, that's a great question that it's coming up fast. 60 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: Roster cuts are on August twenty sixth. There we go, 61 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 3: so that's the cut to fifty three. Will what will 62 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: those two players injury statuses mean for the moves the 63 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: Colts make on the twenty sixth when they cut down 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 3: to fifty three and then in the twenty seventh when 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: waiverclaims are processed. Yeah, because last year, if you remember, 66 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: they picked up Sammy Womack on waivers from the forty 67 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: nine ers, so he ended. 68 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: Up playing he started the whole season because of injuries, So. 69 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: That that's kind of the biggest question I have there, 70 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: just in terms of the injuries moving for well, we. 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: Talked about, you know, going into training camp, it was 72 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: the cornerback room being the deepest that yeah was and 73 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: we haven't been on the podcast since the news about 74 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: Justin Wally's acl also came out, So there's a lot 75 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: of moving parts that we maybe were not expecting in 76 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: terms of that side of the ball. 77 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: You know, it's it's a good lesson in just you 78 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: can look at a room and be like, this is 79 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: as deep and as talented as we've ever had here, 80 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, three guys get hurt 81 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: in quick succession, and you're like, you know, you're putting 82 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: undrafted free agent rookies in the starting lineup and it's 83 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: not you know, Jonathan Edwards it said some moments, but 84 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, but it's different. It's totally different, and 85 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: you you were hoping to not have to get to 86 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: that point. Yeah, we'll just see where it goes. That's 87 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: that's football. It's a sport where you're the injury rates 88 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: one hundred percent is a lot of players will say. 89 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, somebody said that the other day. Actually, I remember. 90 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of a it's very common. 91 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: You'll you hear that in iron sharpens iron a lot 92 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah, day to day mentality, yep. 93 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: All the time. We could just that could be the 94 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: whole podcast, just run through. Ye. But speaking of Jonathan 95 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: Edwards and talking. 96 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: About tomorrow's game, just a little quick preview against the Packers, 97 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: because we didn't get also good an update from stich 98 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: In about what to expect in terms of starters playing 99 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: and quarterback play. And we have also not talked on 100 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: this podcast since the Colts played the Ravens and Anthony 101 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Richardson and Daniel Jones both got out there and Richardson 102 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: suffered a pinky injury and left after two drives, and 103 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: then Jones came in for the majority of the snaps, 104 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: which was not the plan. And then the planet has 105 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: now been changed against. 106 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: Packers, so Daniel Jones will start against Green Bay. It 107 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: sounds like he's going to play a couple series, whatever 108 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: that looks like, and then Anthony Richards will come in 109 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: and fish and finish out the second or the last 110 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 3: part of the first half. So maybe it comes in 111 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: in the first quarter, maybe it's the second quarter, depending 112 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 3: on how long Daniel Jones is out there. The Colts 113 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: are going to play some of their starters, most of 114 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: their starters available some well right, yeah, that's the. 115 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of Jonathan Edwards, is that there's a chance that 116 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: he'll be out there. 117 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: Yes, with the starters, yeah, you know, the Colts will 118 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: play their non injured starters, and you know, I don't 119 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 3: know what that meet like. I don't know if Jonathan 120 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: Taylor is going to play tomorrow or to Forrest Buckner, 121 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: Grover Stewart, like guys who it's like do they really 122 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: really need it? But I think for pretty much everyone else, 123 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: you'll see the starters out there. So the you know, 124 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: and last year too, Like thinking about it, Jonathan Taylor 125 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: did play in the preseason against Denver. Yeah, he had 126 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: like a very short run in that preseason opener. So 127 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: maybe there's a chance that JT gets out there. But 128 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: whatever it looks like with the starters, that is different 129 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 3: than Baltimore. But that's not a I don't want this 130 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: to sound like that's an indication of like how Shane 131 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: Stikeen is Anthony Richardson. 132 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 2: And Daniel Jones. No, they're very separate. 133 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, because this is like that first preseason game coming 134 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 3: off Baltimore, I think there was maybe a little bit 135 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: of like, we're still sort of ramping up into this. 136 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: We can maybe do it after green Bay. Cincinnati's gonna 137 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: be the interesting one of what the Colts do there. 138 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: I saw. 139 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: I don't know, it was like Peter Schrager or someone 140 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: made this point on NFL Live on ESPN that he 141 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 3: was like, well, the Colt's not playing their starters against 142 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: Baltimore is an indication that Anthony Richardson is behind in 143 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: the competition. And I was like, I don't think that's true. 144 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: Because his point was like, well, usually that third preseason 145 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: game is like the you know, the the real one 146 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: of the second one is the real one. And I 147 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: was like, that's not how the Colts are really operated 148 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: under Shane Steichen. So I was like I saw that, 149 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: and if anyone else saw that, I wouldn't read too 150 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: much into that. 151 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: There's a lot of reading into starters and quarterbacks. That's 152 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: all you can do right now. 153 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: Though you're just you're reading into every. 154 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: Read a little bit too much into things sometimes. 155 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: Because it's it's such an even competition exactly, so you're 156 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: just like, oh, well, I guess we're gonna take this 157 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: little morsel and figure see if if that means anything. 158 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: I think just right now, it's like it's just too 159 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: close to call. Yeah, and it's gonna what's interesting, Amanda, 160 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if you caught this on Thursday was 161 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: Shane Steiken said he hopes it sooner rather than later, 162 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: and he also said that he's probably gonna sit down 163 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: with Chris Ballard and Carl or Say Gordon soon yes, 164 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: to have a discussion about this. So, while the Colts 165 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: have said there's no timetable on it, we're going through 166 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: the process, it does sound like after this Packers game 167 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: there's a chance that the Colts will make a decision. 168 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: It's not a guarantee because they might say they might 169 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: get to the end of this Packers game and say, 170 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: we really need to see more in this week of 171 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: practice leading up to Cincinnati, and then we need to 172 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: see a little bit more in that Bengals game before 173 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: it can make a call. The Colts don't have to 174 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: make a call next week, No, they do not. 175 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: They can do what they want essentially. 176 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think like internally, you probably need to make 177 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: a call by that Labor Day practice of everybody, right, Yeah, 178 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: I think you'd like to do it earlier than that. 179 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: But like baseline that when the Colts get bad from 180 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: Labor Day weekend, that's when prep for Miami starts. So 181 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: like you're you're gonna do a little bit of it 182 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: before Labor Day, but it's not gonna be like very heavy. 183 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: So that's when when Miami prep starts, that's when you 184 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: you have to have a starting quarterback in place. 185 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: So and you don't want to be forced into making 186 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: a decision to our life either, And that's why that's 187 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: Shane has talked about that throughout training camp. 188 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: If he wants to just let it play out and 189 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: see what happens, and especially like this weekend, we don't 190 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: know what's. 191 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: Going to happen Baltimore situation again, but like that will 192 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: influence how you judge and assess what everybody does. 193 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, the green Bag game is going to be a 194 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: huge part of this evaluation. It's not the only part, 195 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: but it's it's a big part of it. I just 196 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: the other thing is, like, Okay, if this is as 197 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: even as we think it is. Between these two guys 198 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: who have both had I think good training camps, Yeah, 199 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: what what are the Colts going to look for in 200 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: their starting quarterback then? Because while Richardson and Jones have 201 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: had good training camps, they they are different players in 202 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: maybe their strength that they bring. Daniel Jones' strength, I 203 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: think is his ability to complete passes consistently and stay 204 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: on schedule with the offense. Anthony Richardson's strength, I think 205 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: is his legs and his explosive playability. He has improved 206 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: in the efficiency that's been a weakness of his game. 207 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: The weakness of Daniel Jones' game has been him pushing 208 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 3: the ball down the field over the course of his career. 209 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: He has improved at that in training camp. But it's 210 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 3: like what sort of flavor of offense do you want 211 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: to run? And that is where it's a tough decision. 212 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: It's a really tough decision. So I think, you know, 213 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: if the Colts don't make it next week, I won't 214 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: be totally surprised. If they say, we need to see 215 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: a little bit more against Cincinnati and whatever we do, 216 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 3: whoever starts is not an indication of who we think 217 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 3: is going to be, like we'll have to go through. 218 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: But they also could get to the end of the 219 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: Screen Bay game and say, whatever happens after this Packers 220 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 3: game is not going to separate out of these guys. 221 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: We just need to make a decision for the sake 222 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: of the team, yes, and then go from there. 223 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. 224 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: We again, we're not that we're reading into things, but 225 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: we also are kind of reading into things because, like 226 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: you said, that's all we can do right now. So 227 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: I just lots of thinking, lots of stuff to look for, 228 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: definitely against Green Bay. Just one last thing for today, 229 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: jj I said, we wrapped up training camp yesterday, So 230 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: for you, what are the overall takeaways outside of the 231 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: quarterback competition that you saw from this team or from 232 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: certain players. We talked so much about Tyler Warren and 233 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: some of the other rookies and everything, but just everything 234 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: else that you've taken away from them. 235 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: So what I've liked is coming into camp. I wrote 236 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: an article that was basically just like here's where all 237 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: the other competitions are taking place on this stem. It 238 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: was literally every position group had some level of competition 239 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: and reflecting on it now, so you know, outside of quarterback, 240 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 3: backup running back, all right, who's gonna who's the backup 241 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: running backing to be? I think we all were looking 242 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: at it as like it could be DJ Giddons or 243 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: Khalil Herbert, and Tyler Goodson has emerged as a guy 244 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: who it's like him, and it's been him and DJ 245 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: Giddons who have been really competing, and I think that 246 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: competition has brought out a lot of good things in 247 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: Tyler Goodson. That's really encouraging. At wide receiver, it's how 248 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: is ad Mitchell going to crack that top three? And 249 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: even before Alec Pierce sustained that groin injury, you saw 250 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: Ady Mitchell making flash after flash after flash. He has 251 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: had a really good training camp and I think again 252 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: that competition has brought out the best of him. At 253 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: tight end, Tyler Warren has had to compete to ascend 254 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: to the top of the depth chart, but then behind 255 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: him Will Mallory has at training camp. 256 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: Then nobody's talking about it because there's so much else 257 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: going on right. 258 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like every day you're writing down eighty 259 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: six in your notebook of like, oh that there's another 260 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: play by Will Mallory. He's making catches in traffic. It's 261 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:56,479 Speaker 3: really really encouraging there on the offensive line. Tanner Bordolini 262 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: won that job over Danny Pinter before Danny Pinter had 263 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: an injury. He's been out the way last couple of days, 264 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 3: but Bordolini kind of consistently started taking you know, back 265 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: to back days, three days in a row the first 266 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 3: team offense. That's encouraging to see. On the defensive line, 267 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: like that that rotation at d end is kind of 268 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: what I was looking at, and look like it wasn't 269 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: just gonna be handed to layout too lato, but it 270 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 3: looks like he's kind of ascended up to that point now. 271 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: J T. 272 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: Twoey Mooloat had a really good training camp, really impressive there. 273 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 3: Backup defensive tackle. You know, Neville Gallimore is kind of 274 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: in trench there, I think. But then you saw good 275 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 3: competition between at A, Tommy Why at A bar A, 276 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: Tim Smith, Eric Johnson the second those guys have all 277 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 3: been kind of working their way up. I think it's 278 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 3: mid more of Tommy and Eric Johnson who kind of 279 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: ascended there. 280 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: Johnson knows how to work a camera. 281 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: Eric Johnson's one of the funniest players on the team. 282 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: He's one of the funniest players on the team. Right, Okay, 283 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 3: so we keep going down here, linebacker. I think you know, 284 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: when we looked at it, it was going to be, Okay, 285 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: there's Zire Franklin and Jail and Carlis are going to 286 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 3: be your starters. Well, now it's Zire Franklin and then 287 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: it's Cameron mcgrou and Joe Bachi and who knows lou 288 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: Anarumo and both those guys like Jalen Carlies has been 289 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: dealing with an injury too. I think it's an ankle. Yes, yeah, 290 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: so he hasn't been practicing. But even before that, mcgron 291 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: and Bachi sort of ascended ahead there because they just 292 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 3: they've got a ton of practice time. And while neither 293 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: of those guys have played significant snaps on defense in 294 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: their career, mcgroone's only played eight snaps on defense in 295 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: his entire career. There's a pathway the Cults of eight, 296 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 3: an established pathway to Hey, you're a special team's ace. 297 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: As a linebacker and now you're gonna start. And we 298 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: saw Zia Franklin do that, We saw you j Speed 299 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: do that. That That's something that this team has done 300 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: a pretty good job of identifying. All right, let's keep 301 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: going cornerback. Obviously there was a competition there between Justin Whally, 302 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: Jalen Jones and Juju Brentz that Justin Wally was thriving 303 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: in and Jalen Jones and Juju Brents were also having 304 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: really good camps. Now they're all hurt. And the guy 305 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: who I think I've been consistently the most impressed by 306 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 3: has been Jonathan Edward. Yeah, number thirty five, look out 307 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: for him on Saturday. Undrafted rookie. He's made a couple 308 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: of plays like he Indiana State guy, Indiana State guy 309 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: and then Tulane he made a play in a deep 310 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: ball to Alec Pearson to practice. I think it was 311 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: the last weekend where it was like whoa, Yeah, that 312 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 3: was a play like that was a that was a 313 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: you're writing that down to the StartX to it play? 314 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: Ye, Sam and Womack too. Not to put him aside. 315 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: He had a really good day against the Packers. Ye 316 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: he did. 317 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Alex Johnson, who looks like he might 318 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: be your kind of backup slot right now. Yeah, he 319 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: had a pick on the first play the game against 320 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: the Ravens. I was pretty impressive. So you're seeing those 321 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: guys compete in battle there. I think you still would 322 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: prefer to have Jones and Brentz come back and take 323 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: over that third cornerback spot, but right now these guys 324 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: are getting valuable reps, whether they make the fifty three 325 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: or their practice squad guys. The Colts are probably gonna 326 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: need him at some point this year based on how 327 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: it's gone. Okay, and then backup safety where Nick Cross 328 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: and you know Cam binem Are and Trench there. The 329 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: guy who's ascended there has been Hunter Waller. He's in 330 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: an awesome training camp. 331 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: Yes, he's everywhere Lou and Rumo. 332 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: Sort of couched a little bit of like he's got 333 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: a ways to go. But like the way that Hunter Woller, 334 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: the physicality and just like the speed, Like he I 335 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: made this comment, I don't know if it was to 336 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: you on the practice field the other day. I like, 337 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: that's how I want my son with round picked. 338 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you said that someone else. 339 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: He's like a crazy person. 340 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: Well, the other day he maybe a couple of weeks 341 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: ago now, was before Baltimore. Somebody asked him if they 342 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: had had to tell him to tone it down that all, 343 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: like physically when especially when they're not in pads. 344 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: He was like, no, and that's a bad thing. 345 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I would rather be told to like tone 346 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: it down than to hit harder. So he's like, I 347 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: need to go play harder and hit people more. 348 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: I was like, go for it right ahead. That's again, 349 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: that's it was like that, but that's perfect. That's exactly 350 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: who he is. 351 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that. That is a valuable guy to 352 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: have as a backup on defense. And then also Guyh's 353 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: probablynna play a lot on special teams. Speaking of special teams. 354 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: Speaking of special team, Spencer Schrader has emerged from that 355 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: kicking competition. It looks like he is almost certainly going 356 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: to be the Colts kicker this season. He's gonna get 357 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 3: all the kicks against Green Bay. He's he's been markedly 358 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: more consistent in making his field goals than Maddix Steel. 359 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: That's what Brian Mason said, Yeah. 360 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: And then Maddox I think was seventy eight. Yeah, so 361 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: that that there you go, yep, there you go. 362 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: So lots of and this is a good thing, oh 363 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: because I think last year we looked at a lot 364 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: of parts of this roster and it was like, that's set, 365 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: that set, that's set, that's set, because there was nobody 366 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: else right, and that wound up being detrimental to the 367 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: Colts in twenty twenty four. Ye I think this even 368 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: even if you're looking at guys trying to crack a 369 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: roll on offense where they're gonna get twenty percent of 370 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: the snaps, or a guy on defense who is going 371 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: to need to play because there's gonna be attrition, but 372 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: like is getting valuable reps with the ones right now, 373 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: like a Woler or Jonathan Edwards. That stuff is all 374 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: really valuable. And the competition. I think the Colts got 375 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: what they wanted out of this training camp from a 376 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: competitive standpoint. 377 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. 378 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: Lots of competition, lots of growth, lots of things to 379 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: look for on Saturday against the Packers. And as we 380 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: continue into preparing for Cincinnati and the preseason wraps up 381 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: and then we get ready for the regular season and 382 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: that things really get started. 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