1 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to woke a f daily. 2 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Woka F is free for the next three weeks, So 3 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: share this show with all of your friends and tell 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: them they can get it free wherever they get their podcasts. 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, April fourteenth, and we are in New York. 6 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: I want to say, is it officially we've been on 7 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: lockdown for a month. I'm pretty sure that it has been. 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: I believe that schools closed in New York officially on March. Yeah, 9 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: on March thirteenth, that Friday, I think was the last 10 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: day of schools for people in New York. And so 11 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: here we are one month later that we have been 12 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: in lockdown. There are no signs, folks, that schools are 13 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: going to be reopening. I know that there was a 14 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: conversation between Mayor Bill de Blasio and Andrew Cuomo, but 15 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: let's just be clear. They hate each other. So anything 16 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: that they can do despite one another, they will. Schools 17 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: will probably not reopen, and so parents need to wrap 18 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: their minds around that. I feel for my friends who 19 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: are homeschooling on top of distance learning and are trying 20 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: to keep their kids on some type of schedule. It's 21 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: not easy. It's not easy at all. And you know, 22 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: what I think is really troubling, right is that you're 23 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: hoping that your kids won't be damaged by this, that 24 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: they all be okay, that you can have social distance 25 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: play dates, that you can talk to them about this, 26 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: that in a way calms them. But in reality, none 27 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: of us are calm. All of our lives have been 28 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: on pause. As New York says, we've been on pause 29 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: for a month with no signs really of how we're 30 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: going to open. Oh, we except one sign. And this 31 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: is really fascinating to me. And by fascinating, I mean funny. 32 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: So it is because you know, every day I giggle, 33 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: but every day it becomes clearer and clearer to me 34 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is the president of no one. He's 35 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: the president of the one percent. He's the president of 36 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: the Red States, you know, but he is not, in fact, 37 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: the president of the United States, and in fact, there 38 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: are really no United States of America at this point. 39 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: And I think that what is really funny is that 40 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo and Gavin Newsom in California on the West coast, 41 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: governors are finding their way to coordinate with one another 42 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: to build teams together to probably work together in a 43 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: way that they've really never had to because all of 44 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: the coordination comes from the top, comes from the president. Right. 45 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: If you look at the hierarchy, it is the president 46 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: of the United States, right, And then you know you 47 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: have these states that are led by different governors. And 48 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: what we have seen is that in the absence of 49 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: real genuine leadership, there is a vacuum that's created, and 50 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: from that vacuum, stars are born. We are watching that 51 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: happen all over the place, and in New York, in 52 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: the Tristate area in the northeast. I made a joke 53 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: yesterday on Twitter after Governor Cuomo's second press conference of 54 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: the day. His first one is generally to go over, 55 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: you know where the New York numbers are, how many 56 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: unfortunate souls we have lost? Where, how we're flattening the curve, 57 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: and now the question about how and when we reopen, right, 58 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: because we believe that here in New York we have stabilized, 59 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: but at a very horrific rate. Right, we are flattening 60 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: a curve that reached an epic height. You're talking about 61 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: in New York alone losing ten thousand people. And so 62 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: it's it's really troubling. Um, that's still um. We have 63 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: a president that isn't doing anything. But what he has 64 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: done is he's decided to create this. I don't know this. 65 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: I guess it's called um, the Council to Reopen. Officials 66 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: on the Council to Reopen America, And it's been trending 67 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: on Twitter. And here are the people that are on 68 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: the council, Mark Meadows, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Steve Manuchin, 69 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: Wilbur Ross, Robert Lythandizer, and Larry Cudlow. Uh, there's not 70 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: one doctor on this list. Uh. Two of the people 71 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: are members of his own Trump's own family, also with 72 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: their own legal issues and failures. People when they saw 73 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: the pictures, they really thought that this was an article 74 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: from the Onion. All it is is a group of 75 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: people who are greedy, who are cutthroat, who are all 76 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: multi millionaires, but who don't know how to do much. 77 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: And so it's incredible to me that when you're looking 78 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: to reopen a country, and let's let's just start with 79 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: that phrase, reopen, reopen America, like I keep saying, because 80 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: I want people to understand where the true power is. 81 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump didn't close a fucking thing. Donald Trump did 82 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: not issue a national shutdown. He did not issue a 83 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: national lockdown. He did not offer Americans, the governors, the citizens, 84 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: the globe any type of fucking guidance on how to 85 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: handle this crisis. Donald Trump didn't shut anything down, So 86 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump can't reopen a fucking thing. So I just 87 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: want to be super clear out of the gate. If 88 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: you are listening to this podcast in your home, that 89 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: is not Donald Trump's fault. You are listening to this 90 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: in your home because your governor cares about your health 91 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: and well being. If it had been up to Donald 92 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: Trump and this bullshit council that he had put together, 93 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: y'all would be at work now, sick and dying right 94 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: hacking up a left lung and fallen over in your 95 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: cubicles or on the factory line, or at the school 96 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: or wherever. If it had been left up to these 97 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: people that I just listed out in the quote unquote 98 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: official Council to reopen America, many more people would be dead. 99 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: Because this group right here, they only give a fuck 100 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: about money. And if you are not making them money, 101 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: then you are costing them money. So they look at 102 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: this global health pandemic that we are in through one 103 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: particular narrow lens, and that is the lens that is 104 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: about making money. It is not the fact that COVID 105 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: nineteen has killed tens of thousands of people. It is 106 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: not the fact that every day governors across this country 107 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: have press conferences to announce how many of their residents 108 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: they will be burying. It is not the devastation in 109 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: the anxiety in knowing that a proper vaccination won't come 110 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: probably for if we're lucky, a year from now, but 111 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: in reality eighteen months to two years from now, So 112 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: in about I don't know, as we are broaching on 113 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, they'll probably be vaccinations readily available in 114 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: the way that there was for polio, right in the 115 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: way that you can get a flu shot, in the 116 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: way that you can get a malarias shot. If you're 117 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: traveling outside of the country to areas that have malaria, 118 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: you'll be able to get a vaccination and get those 119 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: boosters as the as the virus changes and mutates. And 120 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about two years from now, and that's 121 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: beca because you care about not costing more lives than 122 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: need to have happen right. You don't rush to put 123 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: products out, You don't rush to reopen unless you can 124 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: ensure the safety and well being of citizens of this country. Right. 125 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: And when I say I mean everyone, not just you know, 126 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I say citizens, as I'm talking about the country as 127 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: a whole. But you don't rush to reopen when you 128 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: can ensure that people won't die by going back to working, 129 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: going back to school. And the only person that is 130 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: making sense during this time are some of the governors 131 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: that are working in coordination with each other. I joked, 132 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: and I said that Cuomo was essentially has essential actually 133 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: been anointed president of the Northeast. He held a press 134 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: conference yesterday with several of the governors in the bordering 135 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: states because he's like, if we are going to have 136 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: a coordinated reopening, right, and I have people who live 137 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: in Connecticut but work in New York, or who live 138 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: in New Jersey but work in New York, then I 139 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: need to coordinate with the states and the governors and 140 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: the folks around us. Does it make sense for me 141 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: to say that, yes, we're gonna open up, We're gonna 142 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: send everyone back to work, but we're not opening up schools. 143 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: Where the fuck are the kids gonna go. Who's going 144 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: to take care of them? You can't send workers back 145 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: to work, but we don't open up the schools. Who 146 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: is watching those kids? So you know the way that 147 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: this shutdown in this particular region was rolled out, I 148 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: imagine that when we get to a place, and folks, 149 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: I'm going to be very frank with you, we are 150 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: not getting to that place until maybe maybe and I'm 151 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm just doing it from my own, you know, my 152 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: own mental health. Maybe June, you will see a slow reopening. 153 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: But what is going to happen is that they're going 154 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: to be little tests. Right, Okay, so we're going to 155 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: open this back up. Let's say essential workers, not you know, 156 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: those that are non essential. You can begin operating your 157 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: businesses at twenty five percent capacity, meaning twenty five percent 158 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: of your workforce can go back into offices, right, can 159 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: go back into build buildings. But that the rest, the 160 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: majority still need to stay home and work remotely because 161 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: we need to see what are you putting in place. 162 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Are there going to be requirements that now everyone everywhere 163 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: is going to need a mask, is going to wear gloves. 164 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: How are you doing the cleaning in your buildings? In 165 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: your factories, you know, Like again, all of these precautions 166 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: need to be taken so that when we do reopen, 167 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: there is not another wave. And what we've been learning 168 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: is that with other pandemics and plagues and what have you, 169 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: is that there was a first wave, a second wave, 170 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: then the third wave. You have to understand how this 171 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: virus is moving in order to figure out how to 172 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: stop it, how to slow it. Right. So the more 173 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: study that we do, the more data collection that we 174 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: can get, the better we are prepared. So why folks 175 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: like Donald Trump and this bullshit Council to Reopen America 176 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: are so gung ho when literally we've only been locked 177 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: down for a month, and in most places around this country, 178 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: especially if you happen to have a Republican governor, you're 179 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: probably really not locked down. You are still in a 180 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: place where you believe that this isn't going to come here. 181 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: Your numbers haven't been tripling and quadrupling every day yet, 182 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: but they will. So we're looking to places like the Northeast, 183 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: like the Northwest, which are the places that are doing 184 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: coordinated efforts right and using the best practices of the 185 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: countries that have begun to reopen and see for those 186 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: that did reopen right and have been able to continue 187 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: to do that, what have they done? You're talking in 188 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: Singapore and South Korea temperature checks at all public places. 189 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: So you're walking into let's say, your grocery store, your pharmacy, right, 190 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: you're getting a temperature check at the door. I went 191 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: into a store the other day, and again, we try 192 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: and go out every two weeks to do like some shopping, 193 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: and we all take turns. So there are some people 194 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: that haven't left, and there are some people that leave 195 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: every three weeks there in our house, and there are 196 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: some people that leave every two weeks to kind of 197 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: to go out to limit again our time in the 198 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: outdoors and in stores. But yesterday I needed to go. 199 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: So I went to this local place about five minutes 200 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: from my home, and the parking lot was packed, the 201 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: store was packed. People were doing their best to stay 202 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: away from each other. But this particular corporation Meet Farms 203 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: did not put together any type of guidelines or rules 204 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: to keep their customers or the people that are working 205 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: for them safe. Sure folks had on gloves and whatever, 206 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: but they weren't practicing social distancing because you couldn't there 207 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: wasn't somebody that was standing out the door saying that 208 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: we're only allowing Let's say, however, based upon the square 209 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: footage of a place, is about how many people you 210 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: should be allowing in at one time to shop. You 211 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: should be looking at the square footage, looking at how 212 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: many people can be in the store without actually bumping 213 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: into one another or being around and make sure everybody 214 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: has their aisles and what have you. But we're going 215 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: to be monitoring that. Life is going to look different. 216 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: But you have to have people that care more about 217 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: the public safety than they do about profits. If you're 218 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: going to open restaurants back up, which I hope in 219 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: the coming months we do, because I don't want some 220 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: of my favorite spots to close down forever right and 221 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: just be done. But when they reopen, are they going 222 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: to be allowed to have the same capacity that they 223 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: did In New York City? I would go out to 224 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: eat in places where you are squeezing your body in 225 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: between other people because it is the hot spot and 226 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: place to be. Are you going to be able to 227 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: do that anymore? No, You're going to have to space 228 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: things out in a way right where people have maybe 229 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: that six foot of distance between one another. You're going 230 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: to need to make sure that everything is wiped down, 231 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: that things are incredibly sanitary, because all you need is 232 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: one outbreak to be traced back to your place of 233 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: business and you are going to be done. So Again, 234 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: life is going to change, and we do need task 235 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: force and councils that are thinking out how that's going 236 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: to be changed. But what is amazing is what's fascinating 237 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: here is that the governors pretty much got the jump 238 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump before he announced. Governor Cuomo and the 239 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: rest of the Northeast governors already said yesterday, we're putting 240 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: together a task force. We're going to have somebody that 241 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: is in charge of public health, somebody that's in charge 242 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: of the economic reopening, somebody else that's in charge of 243 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: this and that over here. California did the same thing, Oregon, Washington, 244 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: they are doing the same thing. Why, because these people 245 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: are actually dealing with what is going down on the ground. 246 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: Tell me what hospital, what makeshift hospital? What places? Donald 247 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: Trump has visited since mar A Lago has been closed. 248 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: He hasn't brought his dumb ass anywhere, right, has he 249 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: been going around to survey the damage in places? Has 250 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: he walked down Fifth Avenue, right? Has he gone to 251 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: the various hotspots that there are in New York in Louisiana? 252 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: Has he been traveling around? No, he has not. So 253 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: these people, your state officials, know exactly what's going on 254 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: on the ground. They know how they did this rolling closure, 255 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: and they're trying to figure out what they are going 256 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: to need to do to reopen and to reopen in 257 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: a way that we're not closed again, and that is 258 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: going to take a lot of analysis, a lot of 259 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: touching go. But this bullshit counsel that Trump put together 260 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: with his son in law, his daughter, and a bunch 261 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: of billionaires who don't give a fuck about people at 262 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: all and are just worried about their stock options. Yeah, 263 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: that's not it. That's not the look. But it just 264 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: needs to be a consistent reminder about where this administration's 265 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: thought and focus is. It is only around money. And 266 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: if I'm a Democrat right now, if I'm Joe Biden, 267 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: the presumptive nominee who became the nominee yesterday when Bernie 268 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: Sanders endorsed Biden and they did their little you know, 269 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: video chat, they need to be going after Donald Trump 270 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: and using this crisis as their rallying cry. But Alas, 271 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: I have yet to see that. My whole thing was like, 272 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna hold out hope, I'm gonna 273 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: wait until Bernie Sanders announces that he's suspending his campaign. 274 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: He did that. I'm gonna wait for Bernie Sanders to 275 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: endorse Biden. Okay, he did. Now now I want to 276 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: see how the rest of this week is gonna play out, 277 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: because if Joe Biden thinks that he's gonna play nice 278 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: in the sandbox and not use this as it, not 279 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: use this slow response and the fact that Donald Trump 280 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: had his depths on his hand, the fact that he's 281 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: put he's rushing to put together some bullshit counsel to 282 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: reopen a country that he never closed so that he 283 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: can continue to make money, if he doesn't talk about 284 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: the two trillion dollars stimulus package as being Trump's slutch 285 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: fund after firing the Inspectors General from being the chairperson. 286 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: If you are not using every single moment of this 287 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: crisis as a way to show the American people who 288 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: the fuck Republicans are, then you do not deserve to 289 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: be in power. Because this is no longer a let's 290 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: rally behind our leader. Donald Trump doesn't care if you 291 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: live or die. If he can make money off of 292 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: your corpse, he fucking will. And when Adam Schiff told 293 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: us that it should have sunk in, Donald Trump only 294 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: cares about Donald Trump. Donald Trump is not putting together 295 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: a commission to make sure that you don't lose your home, right, 296 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: that you don't you lose your livelihood. No, he wants 297 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: to open up the country for the one percent who 298 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: makes money off of your back and if you die, right, 299 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: they don't replace you in a matter of a day 300 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: or two. So also in this moment, think about the 301 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: types of people that you're working for. If you're working 302 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: for a big corporation in big business. You know, there 303 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: is a meme and I believe I've talked about it 304 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: on woke f Daily before, which is something to the 305 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: effect is like, don't kill yourself, right literally, do not 306 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: kill yourself and make yourself sick for a job that 307 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: would replace you in a week if you drop dead. 308 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: Maybe they would send your family flowers, maybe they wouldn't. 309 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: But I will tell you that last week, when the 310 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: mother of the grocery store worker, Leilani, who had cerebral palsy. 311 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: Twenty eight years old grocery store clerk died last week. 312 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: Her mother received her paycheck from Giant Foods for twenty 313 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: dollars and sixty four cents. That young woman kept going 314 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: to work every day. She brought her own hand sanitizer 315 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: because nothing was provided for her, got her own mask 316 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: because it wasn't given to her. But she was a 317 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: frontline worker and she was unprotected by her company, and 318 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: her life to them was worth twenty dollars and sixty 319 00:24:55,040 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: four fucking cents. So be very clear, get very clear, 320 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: get crystal about who you are working for and what 321 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: you are willing to put your life and the life 322 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: of your family on the line for when Donald Trump 323 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: and his cronies want to say to you, oh, go 324 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: back to work, or oh, grandparents would be willing to 325 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: give up their lives in order to keep a strong 326 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: economy for their grandchildren. That's what Republicans think about you. 327 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: That's what they think about you. That is what they 328 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: think about your families. That's what they think about your worth. 329 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: Your worth is about what you can produce and nothing else. 330 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: Those people should not be leading this country. I wouldn't 331 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: want them to walk my dog. I wouldn't want them 332 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: to lead me out of a wet paper bag. I 333 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't want them anywhere near me or the word leadership. 334 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: Their callous, cold, evil, greedy and calculating. They are assuming 335 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: that right now you are so caught up in your anxiety, 336 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: in your depression, spinning as many, justifiably so are in 337 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: the midst of crisis. But they are pick in your pockets. 338 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: They are overturning any stone, and they are willing to 339 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: use you as human collateral in order to get what 340 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: they want. And they are hoping to do so without 341 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: your knowledge because you'll be paying attention to your immediate needs. 342 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: You see, there will be people that make money off 343 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: of this. There are people currently making money off of 344 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: this crisis. The Trumps and the cushioners, the Meadows, the Cudlows, 345 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: the Rosses. There are those people. Never waste a good crisis. 346 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: So you have to ask yourself, in all honesty, what 347 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: you are willing to tolerate? What you need in a leader? 348 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: And what I need is I need a fighter. I 349 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: need somebody that is willing to call a spade a 350 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: spade and go to the match. You see right now, 351 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: governors are in precarious situations because they need things from 352 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: the federal government and they have a very petty, small 353 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: man in charge who if they don't kiss his ring, 354 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: their residence could die. But do you know who has 355 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: nothing to lose. Fucking Joe Biden. He's not in office 356 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: right now. He needs nothing from Donald Trump. He needs 357 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: nothing from the federal government. And the man already tried 358 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: to lampoon his entire fucking family. He risked his presidency 359 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: on it. So now, following the endorsement of Bernie Sanders, 360 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: I want Joe Biden to go to the fucking mats 361 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: And I don't care if he fumbles up his words. 362 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't care if he has a gaff I really don't. 363 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: I want him to show some fire and show some 364 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: fight in what he can offer the American people in 365 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: comparison to the walking disaster that is Donald Trump. I 366 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: am excited to welcome back to Woke f Daily my 367 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: friend Ellie Mistol, who is the nation's justice correspondent. Ellie, 368 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: how are you doing in the midst of the global pandemic? 369 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: And where are you? People like to know those things. Yeah, 370 00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm barely holding onto my sanity I live in west Chester. 371 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: We moved up here about six years ago, and so 372 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: my whole family is now locked in the house with me. 373 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: My mom, who um has a mother in law sweet 374 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: in our in our house. She hasn't been um. She's 375 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: also been locked in the house. I actually was a 376 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: little bit ahead of the game with this. I have 377 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: had everybody on lockdown since I think March sixth was 378 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: the last time anybody left the house here. So okay, 379 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: because I don't want to say that I saw I 380 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: didn't see it coming in the way that like doctor 381 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: Fauci saw it coming, right, but like I saw it 382 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: coming in so far as the minute Trump appointed Mike 383 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: Pence to handle it, I was like, whoa, and no, no, 384 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: you're not putting the let's pray disease away guy in 385 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: charge of the disease and having that work out well 386 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: in any way work you know, and look, happy Easter 387 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: to all who celebrate. You know. I had to pass 388 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: over and all that. But like my my theory of 389 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: divine intervention is like God comes down. It's like, hey, 390 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: here are things like masks and penicillin and anti virals. 391 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: That's how God works in my world. Yeah, um, so 392 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: so yeah. So as soon as Pence was in charge, 393 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: I was like, this is good. You know, just play 394 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: out the string. This is going to be handled, um stupidly, incompetently, 395 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: with a lack of empathy. Um, that will cause many 396 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: people to die. At the point where the President was saying, hey, 397 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: don't worry, this is just like the flu, that is 398 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: when I actually got worried. Yeah, yeah, there's I mean, look, 399 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: we're going into what is this our fourth week and 400 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: it for New York and being locked down. I think 401 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: this is we're going into a month. Yeah, I think 402 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: it's week five maybe yeah, yeah, in a while, it's 403 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: it's it's been a while. Um. And you know, I 404 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: think that for us, well, I will say that for me, Um, 405 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: I feel really good about living in New York right now. 406 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: And I know that people will say, well, that's insane 407 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: because you're at the epicenter. But I have a lot 408 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: more faith in Governor Cuomo's competency, transparency and truthfulness and 409 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: the coordination that is happening in the tri state area 410 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: here than I do at what's happening at the federal level. 411 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: This whole thing has been weird for me with Cuolo 412 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: because I'm so to the left of him on most 413 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: kind of social political issues. But damn, he's been good. 414 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: Boy's been on points during this crisis. He's actually been comforting, 415 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: to say nothing of smart and effective. And it's it's 416 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: a world where it's like, Wow, Andrew Cromo, good guy. 417 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: Nothing usually happens in my house, no, But like, let 418 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: me tell you something, my family, when he's speaking, everyone 419 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: is watching, everyone is quiet. It's the only person that 420 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: we watch now. And that has been the case for 421 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. We stopped watching Trump a long 422 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: time ago because what was the fucking point? And yeah, 423 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: I think that for all of the things that people 424 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: have said and we have all known about Cuomo, he's 425 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: exactly the type of person that we need in charge. 426 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: And I'm thankful that he did not run for president. 427 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: Yours is the only show where I really feel comfortable 428 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: saying this on But like, when are our friends at 429 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: MSNBC going to like get at our level and stop 430 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: airing him live? All well they're doing at this point 431 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: is airing a live Trump Trump rally. Yep, that's spreading 432 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: disinformation about the virus and now about the therapeutics, like 433 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: there's no actual reason to air this lying idiot con 434 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: Man live. You can do it on tape delay. You 435 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: can do it on tape delay with fact checkers. You 436 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: can bleeze out when he is being racist or bigoted 437 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: or orchestra up flying Like why are they why do 438 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: they inssist on airing Trump rallies live under the guise 439 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: of medical advice. I mean, well, because we can be 440 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: very clear about the fact that you know, there are 441 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: interesting powers that be at networks, and we can understand 442 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: that their political ideology does not align and that they 443 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: still believe that Trump is good for their ratings, and 444 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: so they'll continue to do it even if that means 445 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: that now they are helping to spread lives that put 446 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: the public's health at risk. So until there is somebody 447 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: that is successfully sued, like which is what is happening 448 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: by organization in Washington State suing Fox News for their 449 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: coronavirus coverage, until that actually lands and some network is 450 00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: find I don't see them stopping. Yeah, right, It's just 451 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: there was there was a better way to handle the cover. 452 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: And this goes back to the general like Trump administration 453 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: problems um throughout the media, Like there was a different 454 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: way to cover President Trump than all the networks decided 455 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: to cover him and their their decision on how to 456 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: cover him since he came down that stupid escalator in 457 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, their decisions have been complicit in his reign 458 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: and reign of terror over this country, and there's been 459 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: no accounting for it. There's been You know, there are 460 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: people in the media, you and I, Jeff Jarvis. I mean, 461 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: there are people who John Marshall at TP like, there 462 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: are people who care. There're people who understand what they're 463 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: doing and what they're doing is wrong. But those people 464 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: are not writing the checks right, They're not They're they're 465 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: not in they're not seeing um in the room, in 466 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: the in the corner suite making the decisions. Those people 467 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: who make those decisions, they're making their ratings, they're making 468 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: their ad dollars, and they're not they're not focusing on 469 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: how they should be doing things different to help the 470 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: country stop this dangerous person. You know, And I think that, 471 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: and I honestly I think that you would have to 472 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: really believe that Trump is a dangerous person, do you no, Like, 473 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: because before we've been saying that Trump has been dangerous 474 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: for how long, Ellie, Like, I don't know the past 475 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: three and a half years. And you know, we were 476 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: told that our our what was sensible, right, Like you 477 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: show me who you are. I believe you, Maya Angelou 478 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: that we're being partisan. We're partisan hacks for saying that 479 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: Trump is dangerous. But now that twenty two thousand Americans 480 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: have died, that doctor Fauci said over the weekend that 481 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: had the United States acted sooner shut things down, maybe 482 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: less people would have died. That's facts, right, that's not partisan, 483 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: that's truth, that's science, right, which we've also allowed for 484 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: the Republican Party and for Trump to politicize. So we 485 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: find ourselves in this space because media came out of 486 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: this idea that there were two sides to every story. 487 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: This both sides is um these alternative facts. Oh, they're 488 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: my facts and then there's your facts. No, there isn't. 489 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: But we see the breakdown of who believes the coronavirus 490 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: to be an actual problem, right, that something that needs 491 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: to be stopped and addressed on ideological lines. There were 492 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: people hanging out in Pensacola, Florida, you know, at black 493 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: parties and at the beach as if we're not in 494 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: the midst of a global pandemic. The Republicans have managed 495 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: to politicize hiding. Yes, they've managed to politicize you know, 496 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: they've managed to put seeking your hands as part of 497 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: the culture wars. It's disgusting, and it's and it's why, 498 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: and it's and it's and it's contributing to deaths. You know. 499 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: One of the things that I've said for a while 500 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: now is that the operative difference between Donald Trump and 501 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: the Roman Emperor Caligula is that Caligula had the body count. 502 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: Trump having racked up the body count. Yet he's racking 503 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: it up now. Yeah, he's racking it up now. But 504 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: also remember um placing the blame on everybody else, on 505 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: the World Health Organization, a Barack Obama, on doctor fact She, 506 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: on whomever other than him. He wants to take all 507 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: of the applause when the when the curve flattens and 508 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: things start to go our way, but none of the blame. Remember, 509 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: from from from the beginning of March, end of February, 510 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: he said, I take zero responsibility, so then you can 511 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: take zero praise. The man actually said it right. He 512 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: literally said, I take no responsibility at all. That is 513 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: that is a shocking That should be that should be 514 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: his his biography, right, Like, I take no responsibility at all. 515 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: Like that is a shocking statement for an American president. 516 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: In two generations, we have gone from Harry Truman. The 517 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: buck stops here too, I take no responsibility at all. 518 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: Great job, Republicans. Congratulations on all your fricking success, on 519 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: all of your success. So let's talk about what else 520 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: they're doing that's horrifically fucked up and wrong and drives 521 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: all of us to drink. So last week you published 522 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: a piece at the Nation scotus just set the stage 523 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: for Republicans to steal the election. In a five to 524 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: four decision, the Supreme Court blocked Wisconsin from extending the 525 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: absentee voting deadline, disenfranchising thousands and creating a terrible precedent. 526 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: Tell us about this, Ellie. Yeah, So let's let's let's 527 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: start here. The whole way that the Republicans are going 528 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: to try to steal this election is not going to 529 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: be it's not going to come with like horns and Trump. 530 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: It's right, it's not going to be Donald Trump moving 531 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: the election or you know, some kind of cancelation of 532 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: the November third general, Like, he doesn't have to be 533 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: that bold and quite because he will have Republican governors 534 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: in red states doing all of the dirty work for him. 535 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: The foundational way that Republicans can use coronavirus to steal 536 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: the election is by suppressing the vote, right, That's what 537 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: Republicans do. Anyway, as much as I am trying to 538 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: publicize what Republicans are doing, I'm trying not to columbus 539 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: the issue because it's been what they do for a 540 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: generation now. They cannot win national elections without suppressing the vote. 541 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: They've always tried to do this. The way they're doing 542 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: it with coronavirus is going to be with selective quarantines. Right, Like, 543 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: as we know, because we're the people can follow the science, 544 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: we understand that people in dense population areas are more 545 00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: at risk. We understand that cities and urban centers are 546 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: or at risk because that's where people gather and mingle 547 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: and shake hands and cough on each other. Right, So 548 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: that means that it scientifically makes sense for there to 549 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: be kind of stricter shelter and place type rules in 550 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: New York City, in you know, Cleveland, in big major 551 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: urban centers, whereas things. You know, where I am in 552 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: Westchester was actually the first ground zero of this thing, 553 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: So it's not a great example, but you know Rochester 554 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: or or you know Batchloglog Island, like you know, these 555 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: are places where you don't have to not don't have 556 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: to worry, but like your restrictions don't have to be 557 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: as tight. Well, that's all well and good for science time, 558 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, when I'm sure Bill Nye would would you know, 559 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: supports that. But when it comes to voting time, that's 560 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: a huge problem because that means that people in low 561 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: population areas, it's going to be a lot easier for them, 562 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: a lot safer for them to go que and vote 563 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: in person where it's gonna be significant. It could be 564 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: really dangerous for people in urban areas to go and 565 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: line up and pack together to vote. If this thing 566 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: is still with us through November, well, you know, you 567 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: don't have to have a political science doctorate to know 568 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: that people in rural, sparsely spread out areas tend to 569 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: vote Republican and people in dense urban areas tend to 570 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: vote Democrat. So when you quarantine a city in your state, 571 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: what you are doing purposefully, even if that's not your 572 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 1: true intention is suppressing or making it difficult for Democrats 573 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: to vote while making it easier for Republicans to vote. 574 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: That is a binary situation, right, that's step one, Step two. 575 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: The way to ameliorate that those selective quarantines and shelters 576 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: in place is vote by mail, right, Like, that's our 577 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: escape hatch. If you can't go in person, if it's 578 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: going to be hard for you to go in person, 579 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: you should mail in the ballot, either mail in or absentee. Right. So, 580 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: now all the Republicans focus, all of their suppression focus 581 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: is is hell bent on making it more difficult for 582 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: people to vote by mail. Whether it's putting restrictions on 583 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: absentee voting, whether it's refusing to mail ballots to everybody, 584 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: whatever it's going to take. That's how Republicans are suppressing 585 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: the vote. It is not it is not beyond the 586 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: realm of possibility that these states will be can will 587 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: claim that they are overwhelmed with the number of mail 588 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: end vote requests and they don't have enough ballots for everybody. 589 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: The people and sparsely populated rural counties, oh they'll get 590 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: their ballots. But people in large urban centers, they won't 591 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: even get their ballots. They won't even have the opportunity 592 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: to vote through the mail. And that is what happened 593 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, they usually get two hundred and 594 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: fifty thousand requests for absentee ballots. This election, they got 595 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: over one point one million. The system was overwhelmed. The 596 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: people in red counties got their absentee ballots on time, 597 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: but the people in blue county like Madison and Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 598 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 1: there were people who did not get their absentee ballots 599 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: even though they requested them, because this is I mean, 600 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: they hadn't Prince just freaking enough of them, right. So 601 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: the Democratic National Committee sued and they asked very simply 602 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: for the state to extend the deadline by which people 603 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: could either request absentee ballots or more importantly, mail those 604 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: ballots back in the district court said yes. The Circuit 605 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: Court of Appeal said yes. And then five Republicans and 606 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: robes pan picked by Republicans, two of them picked by 607 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, one who was accused of attempt at rape, 608 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: another who says illegitimately in a seat that should have 609 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: been marek Arlands. Those five men, I was gonna say, 610 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: white men. But Clarence Thomas always you know, is there 611 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: those five men of various races decided to put a 612 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 1: stop to all of it. They did not allow with 613 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: the content to extend the deadline for absentee ballots. When 614 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: they did that, they gave a signal to every Republican 615 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: state governor or state legislature around the country that says, 616 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: go steal the election. Go steal it any way, you 617 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: damn well please, because we will not stop you. The court, 618 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court said that there was no reason six 619 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: then the deadline because everybody had their ballots. Well that's 620 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: factually not true. Actually, on the ground, we know that 621 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: people didn't have their ballots. There were stories about it, 622 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: there were tweets about it. People did not have ballots 623 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: by election day. So when the court says you have 624 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: to postmark your ballot by April seventh, that's when the 625 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: election was. Well, what if you don't get your ballots 626 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: to life for life? Are you supposed to travel through time? 627 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way, right, But the Court said 628 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: that everybody should have their ballots for April seventh, and 629 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: they just know your balloting and it's fine. Is that 630 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: is a signal from the court to all the other Republicans. 631 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: So Rick de Sandison Florida can set up a situation 632 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: where you have the mail in your ballots by November 633 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: three and just not send ballots to Miami Dade or 634 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: not send enough to Miami Dade or Brower County, and 635 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,720 Speaker 1: then guess who wins. Varia Mike the Wine in Ohio, 636 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: who has been as for a Republican pretty good unless 637 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: you're a woman who might you want control over her body. 638 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 1: But other than that, he's been pretty good for a 639 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,399 Speaker 1: Republican in terms of fighting voter suppression in his state. 640 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: Is he gonna have enough ballots ready for Cleveland? Is 641 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: he gonna have enough ballots ready for Cincinnati? Because if 642 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't, guess what Republicans went Ohio? And that can 643 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: happen in state after Stata, after states that's either controlled 644 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: by a Republican governor or has a sufficiently powerful Republican legislator. 645 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: In Wisconsin, there's actually a democratic governor. And he wanted 646 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: to just mail ballots to everybody, right, Like, if you're 647 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: a registered voter, you get you don't have to request 648 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: your actions people, You just get it in the mail 649 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,359 Speaker 1: and you're set and the Republican legislator legislature shot him 650 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: down on that the mail balls to everybody is just 651 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: the last the point I want to finish with. And 652 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: I've been talking for a while. I'm sorry, but it's 653 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: it's the show. It's it's super important to me because 654 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't think people understand how critical this issue is. 655 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: Um people like me, are you know, paying attention and 656 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: care and whatever? And I will, you know, request my 657 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: AS and T ballot for the November election in plenty 658 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: enough time for me and everybody in my house to 659 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: receive it, right Like I will, you know, I'll get 660 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: through the primary this now in June and then buy 661 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, July fourth, I'll have requested AS and T 662 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 1: and I'm going to be able to vote in November 663 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: regardless because I'm paying attention. Not everybody is paying attention. 664 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: And that's not really I'm not. I'm not. I'm not 665 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,760 Speaker 1: so in shade at that. It is traditional in this country, 666 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: especially when there's a global pandemic going on, until it's 667 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: in front of your faith, like that is just human nature. 668 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 1: We pay attention because it's our job. There's a reason 669 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: why October surprises work in election because people don't don't 670 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 1: tune in until after Labor Day, right, Like they don't care. 671 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: They're busy, they got other things. I look up this 672 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: morning with damn Luke in my roof, and trust me, 673 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: if this wasn't my job, that's my whole day. Now, 674 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: that's my whole issue. So it's it's traditional to not 675 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: pay attention until the last minute. If you are in 676 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: a red state and you don't pay attention to the 677 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,280 Speaker 1: election until October and it doesn't occur to you until 678 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: around you know, Native American Day, that hey, maybe I'm 679 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: gonna have to vote absentee. And so you don't request 680 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: your absentee ballot until the middle of October, then guess what, 681 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna be too late. It's gonna like the because 682 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: of how Republicans operate, it will likely be too late. 683 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: Republicans will say, and I mean, what's what's one of 684 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,959 Speaker 1: Trump's favorite lines? Who could have known that things would 685 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: have been so complicated? Everybody an idiot? But these governors, 686 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 1: like you know, Brian Kemp in Georgia is going to 687 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: sit there in October and say, like, who could have 688 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: known we needed so many absentee ballots? Oh my goodness, 689 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: and there won't be enough ballots for people when they 690 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: when they start paying attention on oct Mailing ballots to 691 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: everybody would be the better idea, but Republicans won't let 692 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: us do that. Is there any recourse, ellie? Because this 693 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: has already gone to the Supreme Court, they've already made 694 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 1: their truth known, right that they don't actually give a shit. 695 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: So the Kemps of the world, the descantuses of the world, 696 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: all of these folks, they're going to do what they 697 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: need to do in order to keep Donald Trump in power. 698 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 1: So what is our recourse? Is there any I mean? 699 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: I can't unfortunately know right, the Supreme Court is the 700 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: highest court in the land. If they if they don't, 701 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: what they say is law, whether they're right or not. 702 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: The president is the president of the entire United States. 703 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: He if he refuses to make the federal government work 704 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 1: towards protecting the elections, then it doesn't were elections are 705 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 1: run at the state level. If you have a Republican 706 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: governor or a Republican control state legislature and they don't 707 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 1: want you to vote who there's no higher power, right. 708 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: If your governor says no, and your president says no, 709 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: And the Supreme Court says, though, that's it, that those 710 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: are all of the normal powers and the escape hatch 711 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 1: that I used to like to talk about we can't 712 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: do because of social distancing. I can't say we need 713 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: a million man march. Really no, everyone gets sick. That'd 714 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: be stupid. Like you can't like you can't even get 715 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 1: the kind of collective action public protests you know seeing 716 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: going on because of the virus. The only thing you 717 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 1: can really do. And I've said this on a couple 718 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: of a couple of times, I don't look, I'm I 719 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: am working from home, but I am working full health 720 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: because now I have two children that I have to 721 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: home school. My wife is home, my mom's home, Like 722 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: we're all we're all working at like maximum capacity. So 723 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: I am not saying that just because you're working from home, 724 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: you have more time on your hand, but you are 725 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: closer to your phone. And let me tell you, calling 726 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 1: your representatives not just don't call Trump, he doesn't care. Right, 727 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: calling your governor, calling your state, knowing who your state 728 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: senator is, and giving him or her a phone call. 729 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: That can be so effective during this particular crisis. Because 730 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 1: one of the things my father was a local politician 731 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: out on the island actually, um, you know, with the 732 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 1: county legislature legislator for a number of years, so I 733 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: know a little bit about like the mindset of a politician. 734 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 1: And when I tell you that that right now, the 735 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: hardest thing for them is that they can't do their rallies. 736 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: They can't do they they have no ideas what voters 737 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: are thinking of them. And if you're a politician, what 738 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: voters are thinking of you is like the thing that 739 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: you wake up thinking about. And I think that you 740 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,359 Speaker 1: go to bed worrying about right and so without being 741 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 1: able to kind of get out and gets the cheers 742 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: and applause. That's why you run. You like, you can't 743 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: do that, getting you know, one hundred fifty phone calls 744 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: to your state you know rep office like that will 745 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,399 Speaker 1: do something because that's the only interaction about their job 746 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: performance that they're getting right now. You know, if you're 747 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: a state senator, you're you're not doing like weekly polls 748 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: on your approval rating. That doesn't happen. What you get 749 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 1: are your phones, and so calling these people, especially if 750 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 1: you live in a red state and demanding that they 751 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: protect your right to vote is actually something that would 752 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: be effective and something that you can do with your 753 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 1: time while you're socially distance, while you're working from home. 754 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't know where we go from, but that's but 755 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 1: that's like, that's all I got, right, because that's because 756 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: all the other all the normal ways of political of 757 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 1: of legal action are barred from us because Republicans control 758 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,399 Speaker 1: the government. And the Republicans control the government because they've 759 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: suppressed the vote. They know that if they want to 760 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: continue control over the government, they got to suppressed the 761 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: vote even more. And so that's what they're going to do. 762 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: This is always the Republican game. That's why I said earlier, 763 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: like I don't want to columbus of this thing, like 764 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: this is all I am not surprised. This is what 765 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: they always do. I wrote about how they would do 766 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 1: this a month ago, a month before they started doing it, right, 767 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: Like it's it's their game plan is not subtle or hitting. 768 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: It's just devastatingly in the people's ability to rise up 769 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: when quarantined. I mean, the fact is is that you 770 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,720 Speaker 1: like what you had said. Most people don't pay attention 771 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,359 Speaker 1: to the election until right around October, and now you're 772 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: paying attention to the fact that you don't know if 773 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,439 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to continue to have food 774 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: on your table, pay your mortgage, pay your rent because 775 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: you are out of work. Right, is that going to 776 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: be something that is going to drive people to pay 777 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: attention more or are they so consumed with what is 778 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: happening with their day to day that once again Paula 779 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: is going to fall to fall to the back burner. 780 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think for most people in November sounds 781 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: so far away. I mean, anyway, it even does for 782 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: me at some level, you know, like I'm not making 783 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: plans for like except for this election, saying because I 784 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: care about it, I'm not making plans for like I 785 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,359 Speaker 1: wonder where we're spending Thanksgiving this year. Man, I'm trying 786 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,439 Speaker 1: to get through the week. I was trying to get 787 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: through Easter and my wife's birthday. Those both happened last week. 788 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 1: Success next next, I'm trying to get through the end 789 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,879 Speaker 1: of the month, right, Like, so I'm in a very 790 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: like day to day mode. Even myself, I can only 791 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: and I'm so privileged and so lucky. I've got a house, 792 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: and my job is sure, my wife's job is Like, 793 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,919 Speaker 1: I'm so privileged um, and I'm like hyper concerned about like, well, 794 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: the kids have to just because they're going to school 795 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: from home, they still have to bathe, right, we can't 796 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: just leave them in the jamas all day. Like those 797 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: are my thoughts, and so I can only imagine how 798 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: people are processing this who have like real problems, who 799 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 1: who who are who are really struggling to make the 800 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 1: rent or have or have been furloughed or any of 801 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: you know, any of these real or you know. I'm 802 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: also lucky we haven't even mentioned this. Nobody in my 803 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 1: house is sick. Yeah, nobody in my immediate family is sick. 804 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,720 Speaker 1: There are people out here who who are dying um 805 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: um and trying to process you know, dying um it's sick, 806 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: and they can't even go see them in the hospital. 807 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 1: Like there is real slama and grief going on. And 808 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell anybody dealing with those things to like 809 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: give a shit about November, Like I can't unlike shump, 810 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 1: I am human. I can't do that. I can't say 811 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 1: that in good conscience. Um. It is for the rest 812 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 1: of us who maybe don't have those concerns weighing on 813 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: us as heavily to be to fight for those people's 814 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 1: right to vote when they are preoccupied with other things 815 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: they can't fight for themselves. Because let's never forget voting 816 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 1: is supposed to be easy. It's a fundamental tenet of democracy. 817 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be hard. You should be able to not 818 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 1: pay attention until two weeks before the election and then 819 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: show up to vote like that. That's how it should work, 820 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: actually in an advanced democracy. And so I feel like 821 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: my job right now is to raise my voice because 822 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: I know that the people who will be disenfranchised are 823 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: a little bit too busy right now, legitimately so to 824 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: protect their own franchise. Well, Ellie, I can't thank you 825 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: enough for your focus, for your attention, and for your 826 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 1: continued vigilance over this administration and the Supreme Court. And 827 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 1: you know where we're going from here, Because while it 828 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,959 Speaker 1: is incredibly important and life saving obviously to be paying 829 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: attention to what is happening right in front of you 830 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 1: and keeping your family safe and fed, you know, and 831 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: money coming in and all of these things, where we 832 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 1: are going and even though November feels very far away, 833 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,800 Speaker 1: matters just as much because we would be in less 834 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 1: of a dystopian president if Trump had acted, if we 835 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,760 Speaker 1: had had different leadership, if it had been Madam President 836 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: instead of mister president, like, we would be in a 837 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 1: different place. And I don't think that people are thinking 838 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 1: about that enough, because you can't when your immediate needs 839 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: aren't being met. But for this disaster for falls squarely 840 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump's shoulders, and the Democrats need to make 841 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 1: sure that that's how they're painting it. Like. This isn't 842 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 1: an oh, it wouldn't have mattered who was in charge. 843 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 1: This is actually one of those times where it did 844 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 1: fucking matter who was in charge. If it comes down 845 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: to it, and if if I have to tell people 846 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 1: in Florida to go risk their lives to stop Trump 847 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: from risking their life, I will say that, I will 848 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,680 Speaker 1: write that article. I will do that, but damn it, 849 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm gonna hold that you know in the 850 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 1: Google doc file until the last possible minute. I'm going 851 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 1: to spend every you know second that I can trying 852 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,399 Speaker 1: to make it so that isn't the choice, so we're 853 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,839 Speaker 1: not in a kind of bizarro puff Daddy song both 854 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 1: and die, Like I'm gonna try and make that not 855 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 1: the case. Um, But if it is the case, then 856 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: I do think the choice is still clear. It is 857 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: you have you would be worth it to risk your 858 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 1: life to stop Donald Trump, because if you do not, 859 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: he is willing to risk your life to make sure 860 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:40,640 Speaker 1: that Avanka can sell more scarfs. Yeah, that's where we are. 861 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: Elliem is still Thank you so much as always for 862 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: your time and for joining wok F daily. We appreciate you, 863 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: your voice, your writing, um, and so with deep gratitude 864 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 1: for joining us today. Thank you so much for having 865 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: me this current president who in the midst of his 866 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 1: press conferences has full and complete meltdowns as people are dying. 867 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 1: Tens of thousands of Americans are dying, and this president 868 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: is claiming total authority over governors and total authority over everything. 869 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: He's an authoritarian, right, he can tell governors that they 870 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: have to open up their states. He can tell governors 871 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: whatever it is that they have to do in order 872 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 1: to put their people in danger. No, he doesn't. There 873 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: is something actually called states's rights. Republicans should know all 874 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 1: about that, because when they don't have a president that 875 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: they like, that's what they want to claim. Pay attention 876 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: to who your leaders are. You don't need to like them. 877 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 1: You don't need to love them, you don't need to 878 00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 1: want to have a drink with them. You need to 879 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: know that they care about you, about your family above 880 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: all else. And that is not what we have right now, 881 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: but it's what we should all be looking for. That 882 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: is it for me today, Folks on woke f Daily 883 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 1: as always, I am back all week long. 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