1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Media. Something strange is going on. Another member of the 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Russian elite has been found dead. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Reports suggests that he fell out of a window, poisoned 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: with mushrooms. 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: Died of heart failure, died of carbonnoxide poisoning. How comes 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: they are they? 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 3: Dozens of Russian oligachs, politically motivated millionaires have died in 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: the space for three years, most of them in suspicious circumstances. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 4: Many have hidden links to the Kremlin. 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: This is sad Oligach Season two, an ongoing investigation into 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: these recently dead Russian power brokers. Sad Oligach is created 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: by me Jake Hanrahan and my Ukrainian colleague Sergey Slipchenkov. 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: This is a H eleven studio and Coolso Media production. 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: September eighth, twenty twenty five. A bridge in Kaliningrad. The 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: Kaliningrad region is an unusual place. It's Russian territory, but 16 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: it's completely encircled by European countries. It's like an island, 17 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: only instead of being surrounded by water, it's surrounded by 18 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: Poland and Lithuania, countries that both have serious hostilities with 19 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: Russia NATO countries. This six thousand square mile exclave is 20 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: over four hundred miles from the Russian border. Still, Kaliningrad 21 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: answers directly to the Kremlin. It's Russia, just not mainland Russia. 22 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: It's been like this for a while. Originally, though Kaliningrad 23 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: was part of the Kingdom of Prussia, thought of proto 24 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: Germany that began in the seventeen hundreds. Back then it 25 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: was called Koenigsburg. Was eventually seized in nineteen forty five 26 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: by the Soviet Union at the end of World War Two. 27 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: The Communists kicked most of the Germans out and gave 28 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: the region the new name Kaliningrad. The namesake is a 29 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: nod to the Soviet politician Mikhail Kalinin. 30 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 5: Kalinin, who rose from peasant by to be President of 31 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 5: the Supreme Council. 32 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: When the USSA collapsed in nineteen ninety one, Kaliningrad became 33 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: part of the new Russia. It's remained that way ever since. 34 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: Of course, a strategically important area for the Kremlin, a 35 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: highly militarized fly in Europe's ointment. It's here in Kaliningrad's 36 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: Gurievsky area, where a body of forty three year old 37 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: entrepreneur Alexi. Sinitsin is laid out under a bridge. His 38 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: limbs are stiff, is positioned on the bank of a 39 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: small river. He's dead, very dead. His body is missing 40 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: one vital component. 41 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 4: It's head. Snitsin has been decapitated. 42 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: The nailed up spine sticks out from a gaping wound 43 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: at the neck. Strangely, the head is not near the body, 44 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: it's some distance away. Next to this gruesome scene is 45 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: a carefully coiled towing cable high strength nylon rope made 46 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: for pulling vehicles. Polisa called after this nightmare is discovered 47 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: by passers by crops arrive not the scene, and then 48 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: their rapport. 49 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: They write that. 50 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: Its quote could be a suicide. How Sennitskin managed to 51 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: cut off his own head, I don't know. The toe 52 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: rope is thick, woven, dull. It's not like a piano 53 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: or razor wire, which in theory, could maybe decapitator man 54 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: if he used it as a noose. But then how 55 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: would the body end up on the riverbank with its 56 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: head in another location? It could be a suicide, but 57 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: that is very unlikely, it seems. The police are also 58 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: not so sure. They open a criminal investigation into the case, 59 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: mostly citing the tow cable suspicious evidence. Such a grizzly 60 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 3: scene creates a lot of questions. First and foremost for us, 61 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: who the hell was Sinnitsin? A death as brutal as 62 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: this does not happen on a whim. We've been working 63 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: on this case tirelessly, and the simple answer is so 64 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: Knitsin is a bit of a ghost. Very little information 65 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: is out there about him, no real social media presence, 66 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: no record of his childhood, no real effort made to 67 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: follow up on the report of his death. Even by 68 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: the standards of the Kremlins Russia, it's very unusual. I 69 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: reached out to people associated with him and I got nothing. 70 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: Every single time brick Wall, You'd think someone would at 71 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,559 Speaker 3: least want to make sure the correct impression was given 72 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: about this man after he was left headless under a bridge. 73 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: This is not a normal death. Researcher Victi Mihiel, who's 74 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: working on this with us, managed to dig out some information, 75 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: but honestly, there is not a lot out there. 76 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 6: We have no clue and no information about this guy. 77 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 6: If you look him up, you cannot find any information 78 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 6: other than his birthplace and some very vague stuff such 79 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 6: as that he appeared in Russia two times on records, 80 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 6: once when he was born in Vorkuta in nineteen eighty two, 81 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 6: if I'm not mistaken, and the second one when he 82 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 6: self proclaimed as an entrepreneur in twenty fourteen in Saint Petersburg. Well, 83 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 6: there is a bit of a distance between Saint Petersburg 84 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 6: and Kaliningrad, right in twenty sixteen he moved randomly in 85 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 6: Kaliniingrad twenty eighteen started to work for this K potash company, 86 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 6: and in twenty twenty two, just four years later, somehow 87 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 6: he became the general director the company. 88 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: Victor mentions here K potash is something I'll get to 89 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: in a bit related to soap mines and fertilizer. Keep 90 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 3: it in the back of your mind, though, as it 91 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: may hold some answers as to why Senitzin died the 92 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: way he did. 93 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 6: There is no information about his studies, parents, whatever, what 94 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 6: makes him eligible to work as a director. When you 95 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 6: need studies, when you need a diploma in economics, you 96 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 6: need to be even an engineer. I'm saying because an engineer, 97 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 6: because this guy was literally making projects, as in engineering 98 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 6: projects of the minds which did these extractions and whatnot. 99 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 6: But what I was saying, at some point in the 100 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 6: Colini Grad collective unconsciousness, people thought, wow, I wonder if 101 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 6: we have a director for this company, because for some 102 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 6: reason nobody knew the director was from twenty to twenty two, 103 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 6: twenty twenty five where this person was to beheaded. 104 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: This is another interesting point Victors brought up here. Not 105 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: only is Senitsan's past highly elusive, so are the records 106 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: of some of the places he worked at. It says 107 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: if he floated in as a specter and took with 108 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: him everyone's memories as he left. Maybe it's just bad 109 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: record keeping in Kaliningrad. Maybe Russia, in all of its 110 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: iterations throughout history, has been a place of meticulous record keeping. 111 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: They're literally known for it. From Imperial Russia and the 112 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: Soviet Union to post USSR collapse and now Planet Putin, 113 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: bureaucracy has always been a big part of the Russian experience. 114 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: They're great record keepers, but they're also selective record keepers. 115 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: When it helps state, red take and minute details are 116 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: all very important, but when it doesn't help the state, 117 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: everything suddenly vanish. It many such cases when the Soviet 118 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: Union went belly up. For example, Russia eventually ended up 119 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 3: restricting access to the Soviet era archives. Courts would unlawfully 120 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: limit the records so researchers couldn't uncover the true horrors 121 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: of the USSR. They'd reclassified documents, hide them, destroy them, 122 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: or simply say they got lost along the way. Another 123 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: example is the twenty sixteen drug scandal, when a state 124 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: run doping program for Russian Olympic athletes was exposed. It 125 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: was found that the Russian government was guaranteeing that the 126 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: tests that came back positive for performance enhancing drugs were hidden. 127 00:09:49,040 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: There was an institutional effort that made any incriminating documents disappear. Okay, 128 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: now it's time for a quick outbreak. All right, enough 129 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 3: of that, now back to the shore. You get my point. 130 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 3: Records have regularly vanished into the ether in Russia when 131 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: they might expose stay wrongdoing. 132 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, though, This is not just a 133 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 4: Russian problem. 134 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: It is a political problem all across the world, left 135 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: right up, down center. Everybody is at it. Just take 136 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: the so called Epstein files for example. The US government 137 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: on all sides has or is actively hiding important evidence 138 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 3: that exposes the involvement of the rich and power full 139 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: in the world's worst known pedophile human trafficking ring. Try 140 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: to get your head around that these are people who 141 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: talk about the morals of their government and excoriate their foes, 142 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: and yet they are knowingly taking part in an open 143 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: cover up to help some of the worst people on earth. 144 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 3: It's absolutely diabolical, It's corrupt, and sadly, I don't think 145 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: it will ever change. 146 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 7: Anyway. 147 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: I digress. 148 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: Still, the fact that this all takes place in Cliningrad 149 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,239 Speaker 3: might be why things are a little difficult to decipher. 150 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: It's not exactly an area that has the spotlight. In fact, 151 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: it's not a place many people in euro have been 152 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: too atall. A holiday destination, is not. I actually tried 153 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: to go to Kaliningrad myself in twenty seventeen. At the time, 154 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: there were rumors that the state had been fortifying the 155 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: borders and bringing more heavy weapons into the area. I 156 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: wanted to go and see what I could verify and 157 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: write a story on it. As a journalist, I had 158 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: to apply for a visa. I was denied. Later I 159 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 3: was told that the reason for this was my recent 160 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: report in the so called Denetsk People's Republic or the DNR. 161 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: This is one of the most contentious separatist held areas 162 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: in East Ukraine. The Russian back militias controlling the area 163 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: framed it as some kind of post Soviet utopia. They 164 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: even brought in hardline communist extremists from across Europe to 165 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: live there and help spread international propaganda. 166 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 4: It was very weird. Now I had an inklin. 167 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: It wasn't quite the war torn red paradise they made out, 168 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: so I traveled over to see for myself. As soon 169 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: as I arrived, I was assigned a group of minders 170 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: who took me on a three day press tour of 171 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: the region. 172 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: We've been allowed permission here on condition. 173 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: That we have a minder, so basically they take us 174 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: to the people they want us to speak to. It's 175 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: very controlled, but we've come here anyway because these guys 176 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: no longer see themselves. I couldn't go freely myself anywhere. 177 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: It was essentially a North Korea style propaganda campaign. 178 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: In real time. 179 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: They put on a show to make it seem as 180 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: if everything was running great and that the only issue 181 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: was the Ukrainians attacking them. 182 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: But every staged event they took me to fell apart. 183 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: Something would go wrong, and the minders would just hope 184 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 3: that I didn't notice. 185 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 7: Okay, can we go in. 186 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: For example, when they took me to an old lady's 187 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: house that had been bombed, they prompted her to tell 188 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: me how much she loved the then separatist leader of 189 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 3: the DNA, Zakachenko. Only problem was when they presented her 190 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 3: with a newspaper with a full page image of Zakachenko. 191 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: She didn't know who he was. 192 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: Then. 193 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: This sweet Bubushka also accidentally let on that the house 194 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: they were showing us around that wasn't actually hers. She 195 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: lived in a different house in the same compound. She 196 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: was being used for propaganda and forced to lie for 197 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: the camera. In the evenings, the one hotel I was 198 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: allowed to stay at became a human trafficking hub. Big 199 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: men with flattheads entered the restaurant bar area with a 200 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: dozen or so young women. They would offer these women 201 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: up like cattle to anyone willing to pay. 202 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: Surprise, surprise, the. 203 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: Local comrades had no qualms about this at all. If 204 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: that wasn't bad enough, my DNR minders also faked a 205 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: gun battle at a front line position whilst there They 206 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: literally told me the shooting will begin soon. 207 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: Movement for soldiers. 208 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: And that is that incoming, And sure enough bullets flew 209 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: past our heads as we ducked into a trench. I 210 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: covered many wars by this point, and I knew that's 211 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: just not how it works. Front Lines are, of course, 212 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: by nature, very unpredictable. At this scene, the DNA commanders 213 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: explained how the Ukrainians were constantly violating the ceasefire. Only 214 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: the gunfire was coming from an opposite burm across the way, 215 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: which I knew was the DNR position. I even checked 216 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: it when I got back, angulated it on the maps, 217 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: got analysts to check it out. It was DNR position. 218 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: No Ukrainians there. The whole thing was staged to influence 219 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: my reporting. Luckily I twigged early on, and we've been 220 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: filming every fuck up on the slide. Long story short, 221 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: I made a documentary showing that the DNR is an 222 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: authoritarian shitthle ran by Russian commanders and local organized criminals. Now, 223 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: even though Russia was then pretending they were actually nothing 224 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: to do with the DNR, I was subsequently not granted 225 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: permission to enter Kiliningrad or any other Russian territory at 226 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 3: that time. All of this is relevant to understanding the 227 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: psyche of the Kremlin. In practical terms, when it comes 228 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: to on the ground manipulation, they have no qualms. I mean, 229 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: just quickly take the DNR for example. Again, all of 230 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: the leaders who run place when I was there in 231 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen have since died in targeted assassinations right there 232 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: in the DNA. The Russians of course blame Ukraine, but 233 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: trust me, there is a stack of evidence which suggests 234 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: it was the Kremlin who took out their own useful 235 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: idiots when they were no longer needed. 236 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 4: So with all this in mind, I'm. 237 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 3: Sat here thinking to myself, is it possible that this 238 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: kind of behavior is also happening in Kaliningrad. Honestly I 239 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 3: don't know, but I do want to speak to someone 240 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: who's actually been there. 241 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: As I said, I didn't make it there. 242 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: So I reached out to journalist Sam Farley, who went 243 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 3: to Kaliningrad in twenty eighteen. I guess, firstly, just if 244 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: you can't explain why you went to Cliningrad. 245 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 2: The World Cup that Russia held in twenty eighteen, England 246 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: played there against Belgium. This is weird atmosphere that, like, 247 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: the place is quite weird itself. 248 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: We went drove into the. 249 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: Country and drove out again from Poland, and that border 250 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: took hours to get over. And I think whenever I 251 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: think about it now and think how difficult it must be. Now, 252 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: every place I've ever been to has like some positives. 253 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: It's not the It's not the nicest place. 254 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 3: I understand, Like people keep saying, it's this kind of 255 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: brutallest place. Is it as bad as it sounds? Like 256 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 3: gray concrete and all that. 257 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: Gray concrete is just the perfect scrypted words for it. 258 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: The only nice splash of color I can remember was 259 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: like there there was like a McDonald's that was really 260 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 2: lit up well, and it's just red and yellow, and like, 261 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: genuinely that's the only color in the whole place, Like 262 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: it's it's incredibly depressing. It almost felt the other kind 263 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: of moment I kind of remember really well in terms 264 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 2: of colors. We were staying at the top of a 265 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: sort of tower block and at the bottom was a 266 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: shisha bar and kind of walking back to the place, 267 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: walking to and from the place every day. 268 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: The place was gray. It was the weather wasn't particularly 269 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: good either, which didn't help. 270 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: The sky was gray, the buildings are gray, and there 271 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: was just this sort of like luminous green kind of 272 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: light emanating from the shisha bar, and that's all you 273 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: really saw was was lights from shop fronts. 274 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: It's very depressing, and it's not in a. 275 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: It's not kind of Russian or Soviet in like a 276 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: kind of fun interesting way like Transnistria. 277 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: It's so weird but. 278 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: Really fun kind of kitchen like it's that's really interesting place. 279 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: Whereas this just felt depressing. 280 00:19:52,800 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: Okay, now it's time for a quick outbreak, all right. 281 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: Not for that, now back to the short. 282 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: It felt like every bad part of Russia combined, and 283 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 2: it lacked the vibrancy of any of the other Russian 284 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: cities I've visited at that tournament or I've been too 285 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: for that, and. 286 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: Even the people just they just well kind of very. 287 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 2: Wire not particularly friendly, like keeping themselves themselves. 288 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: Did you feel at all that there was this kind 289 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: of Russian military presence? 290 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: To be honest, I didn't feel that on the street 291 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: at all. Anytime I would say I did think like shit, 292 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: this is this is a bit unusually. It's kind of 293 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: when we did go through that border. Crossing it was 294 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: stacked with soldiers and all sorts of sort of military 295 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: now or security or whatever, and I did kind of 296 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: think this is obviously. I know they had invaded playing 297 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: like four years prior to that. 298 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: He didn't feel like Europe was on like a war 299 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: setting at that point. Going through that border, I was 300 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: genuinely quite surprised. 301 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: Every other kind of route I'd gone into Russia, I'd 302 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: done it through air and then it just felt like 303 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: every every airport was the same as any other airport 304 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: in the world. Yeah, crossing did feel very, very kind 305 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 2: of defined, and a lot are if I'm honest. 306 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 3: So that's the backdrop for where this horrific death took place, 307 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: decapitated amongst the concrete and brutalism. Before his untimely death, 308 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: Alexi Sanitsin was the CEO of k Potash, the company 309 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 3: that dealt with different types of natural minerals in the region. 310 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: It's a bit confusing what Sannitzin was in charge of where, 311 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: so let's speak to surgery to clarify. He's most definitely 312 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: smart than I am. One thing that is confusing me, right, 313 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: So some media, and this is both Russian media or 314 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 3: at least like Russian focused. One says that he was 315 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: the CEO of a salt mine, and another says he 316 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: was the CEO of a fertilizer company. Have you worked 317 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: out what's what there is that like the same company 318 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 3: with different parts and people are getting the wrong end 319 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: of the stick. I can't work it out. 320 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 5: It's like a company and then has a subsidiary. From 321 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 5: my understanding, he's kind of in charge of both, and 322 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 5: the both things are kind of true because so potash 323 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 5: is what he's like the project that's supposed to mine potash, 324 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 5: which is essentially salt. I mean it's more complex than that, 325 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 5: but basically just minerals on the ground and they're used 326 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 5: for fertilizer. So essentially potash is extremely vital to agriculture. 327 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 5: Back in I think it was twenty twenty three to 328 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 5: twenty four, the war in Ukraine kind of affected a 329 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 5: lot of export of potash and attackted a lot of countries. 330 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 5: I believe it was in Africa and some other southern countries. 331 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 5: They were near like famine just because they couldn't get 332 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 5: this fertilizer and the basically messed up all the crop. 333 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 5: So it's a big deal. It's it's a big industry 334 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 5: and Russia was actually, i believe the biggest or the 335 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 5: second biggest exporter in the world before the war started, 336 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 5: and they had a major kind of collapse because you know, 337 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 5: they a lot of their customers were the West, and 338 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 5: they all got sent they all started sentioning Russia, So 339 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 5: that industry had took a big hit. 340 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 3: So let's work out what could have got Sinitsin into 341 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: hot water. The first lea there is what Sergey just mentioned. 342 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: Russia's potash industry nose dive in after it was hit 343 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: with war related sanctions. That is obviously going to affect 344 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: a man who's the CEO of the biggest potash company 345 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 3: in Kaliningrad. But even by Krimlin standards, they could hardly 346 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: blame sinits In for this. They're the ones that decided 347 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: to invade Ukraine. Either way, the issue resolved itself. After 348 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: the initial dip, the potash trade stabilized. Actually in some 349 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: regions it became even more profitable due to scarcity. Russia 350 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: worked around the sanctions and for them everything was fine. 351 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: For some reason, though the profits of k potash did 352 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 3: not reflect this. Sinitsin's company was losing money hand over fist. 353 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 4: K Potash, who. 354 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: Sinitsen worked for, was the head of with both companies 355 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 3: since October twenty twenty two. He was not exactly helping 356 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: the company's financial situation, right, Like from the nodes we 357 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: have here, like he was in a very dire financial situation. 358 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, so what kind of happened is it sounds like 359 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 5: there's basically a plan to. 360 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: Create a factory. 361 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 5: From my understanding, it's not fully operational yet and he's 362 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 5: basically going around from the city, so from Kalingrad to 363 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 5: the locals and kind of trying to make this thing work. 364 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 3: Now, this is interesting. Sanitsen was getting pushed back locally. 365 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 3: He needed to rapidly expand the operations of K Potash, 366 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: but the people did not want the new factories on 367 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: their land. K Potash went on a pr offensive to 368 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 3: try and win over the residents, to let everyone know 369 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: how many new jobs that would provide, how lucrative it 370 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 3: would be for the town, and even paid for a 371 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 3: big mural to be painted. They paid homage to a 372 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 3: Soviet era fighter pilot. None of it worked. The people 373 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: weren't having it. They could not be swayed this easy. 374 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 3: This wasn't just some town hall meeting either. Locals actually 375 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: took to the streets to protest k potash. 376 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 4: They were very angry. 377 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 5: There was an incident where the residents basically, the residents 378 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 5: don't want any like construction, mining, et cetera kind of 379 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 5: going on around them. It can be pretty destructive you 380 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 5: have to like dig up, you know, like one of 381 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 5: those giant like mining holes. It would be like a 382 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 5: pretty large effect. 383 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: In the community. 384 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 5: And they actually stood up against it. They kind of 385 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 5: the local said we don't want this year putin ended 386 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: up stepping in. Well, you know, the government stepped in. 387 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 5: They always kind of referred that like this issue got 388 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 5: risen to putin and he stepped in, and they basically 389 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 5: did like assessment. The residents wanted like canceled. They wanted 390 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: the project completely canceled. But what ended up happening is 391 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 5: they basically moved it a few I think it was 392 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 5: just like a few kilometers down from the initial location. 393 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 5: So they were like, Okay, this is still happening, but 394 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 5: I guess we'll just move it over a bit. 395 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: I believe it was the. 396 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,959 Speaker 5: Mine itself and the processing plant. So it was supposed 397 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 5: to be kind of like the entire operation in one 398 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 5: place they got slightly moved down, which you know was 399 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 5: kind of like a victory for those residents, but it 400 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 5: also didn't really address like it's still happening just a 401 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 5: little further off. 402 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 3: So, Surge, you just mentioned, it's at this stage that 403 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: the Russian government on the mainland became made away of 404 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: the issue so much so that they got involved directly. 405 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 3: Could this potentially be the turning point that led to 406 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: Sinitsyn's death. We don't know, but there was a lot 407 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: more scandal to come. Remember that, mind, we were just 408 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: talking about. Well, it's still not being finished. Even with 409 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 3: the new construction location. It's actually still in the design stage. 410 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 3: K Potash didn't manage to fully sway the locals even 411 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 3: after the Kremlin got involved. 412 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 4: They're still angry. 413 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 3: The estimated date for the project's completion is now over 414 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: a decade delayed from when it was originally meant to 415 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: be finished. It won't be done, they say until maybe 416 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: twenty thirty two. 417 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 4: And how long it. 418 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 3: Will take them to recoup the losses is anyone's guess. 419 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 4: God knows. 420 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: Kay Potash needs the money right now. The company's bottom 421 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 3: line is in the toilet they're working at a negative 422 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 3: of three point four billion rubles that's around forty two 423 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 3: million dollars. Their assets are a loss of fifteen billion 424 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: rubles one hundred and eighty five million dollars. K Potash, 425 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: which Sinitsen was running until his untimely death, has more 426 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: debt than it has assets, and it is not making money. 427 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: If that wasn't bad enough, k Potash has investors at 428 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 3: the door. 429 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 4: They want their money. 430 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 7: There are at. 431 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: Least thirty three legal cases. 432 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: Against the company because of course they can't afford to pay. 433 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: If Sad the Oligarch has taught us anything is that 434 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 3: you probably don't want to owe money to anything involved 435 00:28:54,360 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: with Russian state agricultural projects. Trust me on this. Along 436 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 3: with all this, there will been several other strange issues 437 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: attached to k Potash. For example, a water supply company 438 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: tried to extort them out of around two hundred and 439 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars, claiming the company it was using more 440 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: water than what they did. Seems like everybody in that 441 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: region is on the take. Then there's the case of 442 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: a journalist K Potash actually got. 443 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 4: Sent to prison. 444 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: He was writing negative articles about them because well, they 445 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: were doing a lot of negative stuff. In a strange 446 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: turn of events, k Potash claims the reporter blackmailed the company, 447 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 3: saying he'd stop the articles if they gave him one 448 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: million rubles around twelve grand. This journalist was sent to 449 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: prison for three years over this and his publication was 450 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,239 Speaker 3: shut down. To this day, he says he's innocent and 451 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: was quote framed for his crime. 452 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: Very dodgy situation. 453 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: Now, none of this points in any one direction other 454 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: than total chaos. It seems as if Ka Potash is 455 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 3: an absolute disaster from the ground up. 456 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: They even got. 457 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 3: Fined in twenty twenty one for filing documents to the 458 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: wrong government body. Alex Knitzin did not have his ship 459 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: in order whatsoever. With a company like Kay Potash in 460 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: a place like Kleningrads, I think it's safe to say 461 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: that it's no stretch to imagine there might have been 462 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: unsavory characters involved who are owed. 463 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: Money, a lot of money. Could this be wise? 464 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 3: And Knitsin had his head cut off and was dumped 465 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: under a bridge, after all, he was the CEO. Not 466 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: saying he should ever come to harm, but if there's 467 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: anyone to blame for the catastrophic financial losses. 468 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 7: It's obviously him. 469 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: Still, the police of the region are leaning publicly into 470 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: the claims of a suicide, but at the same time 471 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: they have opened up a potential murder case. Whilst confusing, 472 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: at least they are doing their jobs properly, or at 473 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 3: least it looks like that. It's all very closed off still. 474 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: But what we have found out though, is that they've 475 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 3: used this investigation to confiscate documents from the offices. 476 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 7: Of k Potash. 477 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: We also know that examinations have been ordered and colleagues 478 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: and relatives of Sinitsin are being interviewed. Naturally, the police 479 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: no more than they're letting on. In another report talking 480 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: about Sinitsin, we found the following statement quote The enterprise 481 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: itself is quite closed, non public in nature, and its 482 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: general director was not present in any way in the 483 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: Killiningrad public space. He did not give any interviews. Most 484 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: heads of enterprises of this level are visible. I can't 485 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: say the same about Senitsin end quote. As I said 486 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 3: at the start, he was a very private man. Whilst 487 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 3: this case is puzzling, we still don't know one quite 488 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: crucial detail. Where was Sinitsin's head found In all of 489 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: the reports from the police and the media. They just 490 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: state that the head was found in another place. Was 491 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 3: that next to the body in the river or twenty 492 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 3: meters down the road? 493 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 4: We just don't know. 494 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: I think that detail would tell us a lot. There 495 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 3: are also still no real images of the crime scene, 496 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: no further reports from the press, and no quotes from eyewitnesses. 497 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: This to me shocking from such a brutal and unusual death. 498 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: Because opaik as all of this is, I've come to 499 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: think that whatever happened to Alexi Sinitsin is one of 500 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 3: two scenarios. There was a brutally violent murder. The victim's 501 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: head was cut from the body and then dumped in 502 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: a public place to send a message, likely connected to 503 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 3: some kind of organized crime, the state, or both. 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