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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. It's the fourteenth of September twenty

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Speaker 2: I am merely one half of your hosting duo. My

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm not always there when you call, as evidence

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting one. Corey sanhagens sitting at fourth

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Speaker 2: Almost certainly, it's hard to say Bean is the top

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Speaker 2: san Haagen gets bumped out, that moves him up a

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Speaker 2: Vera would find himself just behind Morob the Wailashweeley like

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Speaker 2: for I think his future although not permanent, he's still

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Speaker 2: So if san Haagan gets bumped out behind him as

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Speaker 2: That a fair read of the evidence, you think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fair read, and as much as you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you like to see him fighting a Jose Aldough.

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Speaker 1: I know he's coming off a loss here, Luke, but

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Speaker 2: I mean, consider who he's around. Here's all the different

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Speaker 1: I love this fight. I love this fight a lot.

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Speaker 1: In that regard, Luke, for the uninitiated, what has been

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Speaker 2: I have to go back and look at the Kyler

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Speaker 2: And he has been able to do that. It's the

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Speaker 2: going to go in there and see what happens. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you have to feel things out, but it's about what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's skilled. He seems to be sort of a

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Speaker 1: Do you echo what I say that you could go

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Speaker 2: I mean, he did beat Vera. You mean, like, do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have that backpoids the argument. And this is

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Speaker 2: the thing is like, for Vera against these top five guys,

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Speaker 2: you know, would you like his chances in a rematch

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Speaker 2: in a five round fight? I probably would. I can't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but it just goes to show the

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Speaker 2: A couple of things that I've really noticed. One is

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Speaker 2: But the two major problems are one his willingness to

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Speaker 2: He can do so much. Getting up off the bottom,

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Speaker 2: As often as he is. I think he's a big feature.

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Speaker 1: That's a good tease for Friday's breakdown, where I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: So don't let me take ask you about Sanhagen based

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Speaker 2: on what you've seen at his best, Dude, he's looked amazing.

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Speaker 2: Are you at thirty years old? So I know songa

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 1: It's not too late yet, even though back to back

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00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 1: losses and I want to say closes. Obviously, the Dillashaw

430
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,439
Speaker 1: one was a split decision, and you know there was

431
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 1: a large population that thought he had done enough based

432
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 1: on their interpretation of the scoring rules, which subsequently Luke,

433
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 1: I think we've debated, read the actual literature, and then

434
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 1: threw our hands up in the air and said, look,

435
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 1: it is the eye of the beholder. It's not damage,

436
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,439
Speaker 1: it's impact. However, you want to gauge that the Yond

437
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 1: fight was different. It was more of an action fight

438
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Speaker 1: and I think even though he was competitive and stubborn

439
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 1: and in that, you know, was he really in that?

440
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 1: Was there points where I thought he could overtake it

441
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 1: and win that fight. No, So something needs to change.

442
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 1: But I don't think we're at panic mode yet or

443
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: the mode where we where we sort of brand him

444
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: as being, you know, a tough out for the very best.

445
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 1: But right but three times now against the very best,

446
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 1: we've seen him come come up empty. But we have

447
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 1: in the in the in between as you as we

448
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,880
Speaker 1: mentioned with those two fights, the Edgar and the Maris,

449
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 1: did see him bounce back. Everything you said about not

450
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 1: taking as much damage certainly has to be a big

451
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 1: part of it. The ground situations definitely as well. I

452
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 1: don't know, Luke, Sometimes it comes down to, like he

453
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: can do so many things well, it can be so

454
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 1: smart and creative in the traps that he sets. That

455
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 1: is he being overly too cute at times? You know,

456
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a workmanlike performance here, and I

457
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 1: don't know, like a focus on what he does great

458
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: and build that lead and try to control this fight

459
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 1: without having to make some you know, he lose this fight, Luke,

460
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a different conversation in terms of what

461
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 1: the tail end of his future could be, like, do

462
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: you go to another weight class? You know, do you

463
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: alterally dramatically change your game. We're not there yet. But

464
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 1: what makes the stakes of this fight so important is

465
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 1: he's going to have to step up and perform because

466
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: he has a very well rounded and young and hungry

467
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: fighter coming after him who's got a great corner and

468
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, has shown us that for all the talk

469
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: we say, Luke about Chinese Mma and Jungwai Lee and

470
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: the leech dude, Songy Donk's coming the hell on. So

471
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: the challenges only get harder in this division if they

472
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: weren't hard enough for san Hagen. So you know, I

473
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: like for his arc to see him to get a

474
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: win here, Luke, it would be necessary. But I'm not

475
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 1: panicking yet. I still got a lot of love and

476
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: respect for what he can bring.

477
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Speaker 2: One thing to keep in mind, part of the reason

478
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 2: why he accepts so much damage is he's got a

479
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 2: really good chin, at least for now, right. I mean,

480
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: obviously none of those hold up over time, but Corey

481
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: Sanagan can take a shot, and certainly song you do

482
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: Honk can deliver. But This will be an interesting one

483
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: because five round contest. Sam. If he's gonna this, this

484
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: is what I love about this fight. If he's gonna

485
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 2: get right, this is a great test for him to

486
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: show what he needs to do to get right. And

487
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 2: I think he has enough ability to either freeze at

488
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 2: times you dong, or you know, stick and move, but

489
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: he's got to stick to something as a consequence, he

490
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: has to like be disciplined about the game planned in

491
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 2: ways that I think in other fights that he's lost

492
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: against the high level guys, he hasn't necessarily shown by

493
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: the way like he's got these losses up here. But

494
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: if you look at the losses of San Haagen, so

495
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: his losses in the UFC, al Jamn Sterling, Delashaw, and

496
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Speaker 2: Yon all guys who have held the belt. All guys

497
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 2: who have held the belt. In the case of you Doong,

498
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: who obviously is up and coming and you know, has

499
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: been a different place. Not that these mean the same things.

500
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Speaker 2: He's only got the one loss to Kyler Phillips in

501
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: the draw to Cody Stamen. But like the thing I'm

502
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 2: pointing out here is san Haagan has already touched the

503
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 2: top of the division and found himself a little bit

504
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 2: lacking and needed to make improvements to reclaim that space.

505
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: You know, if your dong had been thrust up to

506
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 2: the top of that division in the same way, I

507
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: think he'd have a similar, potentially worst record. So all

508
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to point out here is san Haagen is

509
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: coming off of a bunch of losses, but he's fighting

510
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: the very most elite guys in the division, which is

511
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: why he has them. It's not like he's lost to

512
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: rank and file in that division. So to keep something

513
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: to keep in mind as well.

514
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Speaker 1: Do you think he could have success in other divisions

515
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: if it ever became a point where he would need

516
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: to Luke He does have an interesting body where you

517
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: could imagine adding certain you know, muscle to that long frame.

518
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: I tend to think he's probably going to be his

519
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: best at the weight class he's in. Yeah. To me,

520
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 2: it's not a function of size that would fix anything.

521
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: It's a function of fight style, and his fight style

522
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: is good. I want to be clear, I have a

523
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 2: high opinion of him. I ask you, do you think

524
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: he can still be a title contender? You said yes,

525
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think so too. I have

526
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: perfectly agree that he can. He's got so much ability,

527
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: but some of the other pieces kind of need to

528
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: be there to get him to really get over that hump.

529
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Speaker 2: BC also in this card, the card itself, it's something

530
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: what would you call it a hardcore fans delight and

531
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: doesn't have a ton of big names on it. Your

532
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: comine is Cheety and Jikawani, who has been on fire

533
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: since he came through the Contender series, taking on Gregory Hadriguez.

534
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: This is a middleweight fight. You gotta love this contest.

535
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: Gregor Hedriguez, thirty years old, has one has the loss

536
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: to Army Patrocan which was split, came back and then

537
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: demolished Julian Marquez and Ji Kawani. Man I remember covering

538
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: his career a long time ago, back when he was

539
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: in RFA. Had a stint in Bellator that didn't go

540
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: all that great, losing to Koreshkov, losing to John Salter,

541
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: getting submitted by the way by John Salter, getting finished

542
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: off by Koreshkov, losing to Carvalio. But then he had

543
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: the one rebound fight in LFA and then has looked

544
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: awesome in UFC three fights if you want to count

545
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: Contender series three finishes all by virtue of KO or

546
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: TKO BC. What do you think about this one? Do

547
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: you like this? How do you assess this contest?

548
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like this a lot. You know, it's always

549
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: the best story when somebody has had bouts of you know,

550
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: of losing on their journey of growth and have bounced

551
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: around as cheat. He has, as you just mentioned that

552
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: long history. But you look at those last four fights

553
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: in particulate you mentioned four and zero with four stoppages,

554
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: including two in the octagon. I mean he's making moves

555
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: to get the Cole main events slot. Here at Middlewege

556
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: shows the potential for the thirty three year old to

557
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: make it happen. Right now, Lukey bangs and that's you know,

558
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: the calling card on that. But you're gonna need a

559
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: lot more than that at this level. And I think

560
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: the last three fights were seeing that that maturity. We're

561
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: seeing him add more. I want to see. Now, you know,

562
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: I don't know a ton about Gregory Rodriguez, and i'd like,

563
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, for you to illustrate that Luke the thirty

564
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: year old from Brazil and show me how good of

565
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: a challenge this is. But I've enjoyed the cheety journey

566
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: up to this point. Since the rebranding.

567
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: This guy is they call him RoboCop. You have seen him.

568
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: He's bald. He has a background in competitive jiu jitsu,

569
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: a pretty high level one at that, or at least

570
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 2: he's got a very good one. He's got a very

571
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: good like you would actually think that. You would think

572
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: that he would have a jiu jitsu game first, but

573
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 2: he actually has a bit of a striking game. He's

574
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: got a sort of simplistic striking game. But I don't

575
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: say that in an insulting way. He's got like remember

576
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: like if you look at the game of Robert Whitaker,

577
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: it's not simplistic, but he doesn't have a ton of weapons. Uh,

578
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 2: Hadriguez is kind of like that. He's got a much

579
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: a little bit more of a boxing game than a

580
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: kickboxing game. While he has a little bit of both,

581
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: but it's a little bit more of that black belt

582
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: in jiu jitsu. I think he has a black belt

583
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 2: under Jacqaray on top of it, and he's got heavy hands.

584
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: He's absolutely willing to get right in your face. He

585
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: looks a little bit older than he is. You would

586
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: think he might be like thirty seven thirty eight based

587
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: on the weatheredness of his look, but he is a

588
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: dynamical force.

589
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. He knocked out Julian Marquez in the first round

590
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: last fight. I remember this guy completely. Okay, look my

591
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 1: casual and it's caught up with me. I'm back, I'm

592
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: back in gear, all right.

593
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you did a lot of prep for

594
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Speaker 2: today's show. That's why the folks tune in is for

595
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 2: your you know, the next level insight that you provide.

596
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: You know, I wrote this massive feature on Triple G. Look,

597
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: don't read it though, please don't read it.

598
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: Well, well, then we look forward to your Triple G breakdown.

599
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: Also on this card, I have to tell you, gentlemen,

600
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying more and more. Bill Algio signor Prefecto is

601
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: taking on Andre Feeley, the actor slash fighter who's been

602
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: in a rough run BC. He had two wins in

603
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: a row over Royles Jury and Shaman Mo reisch Back

604
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, but since twenty twenty he fought Sadiq

605
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: Sef but by the way, as tough as shit, so

606
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: that's a loss or whatever comes back and rebounds against

607
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: Charles Jordan but it was a split. Then loses to

608
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: Bryce Mitchell, who got basically out wrestled the whole time,

609
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: although he was able to stand a little bit, had

610
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 2: to know contest against Daniel Pineda, and then loses via

611
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 2: TKO in forty one seconds against Joe Anderson Brito. This

612
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: of course was back in April of twenty twenty at

613
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: the Font versus vera card bit of a rough stretch

614
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: for Pheely, very rough stretch for Peeling.

615
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: Very rough stretch. And I think both of those wins

616
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Speaker 1: in particular, you mentioned the knockout of Shaman Rice in

617
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and then that split decision win in a

618
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: brawl against Air Jordan in twenty twenty. Look, it tricked

619
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: me to the idea that he had turned that corner.

620
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: He's been an exciting guy, uh who could package wins

621
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: and losses together, you know, two wins and then a loss,

622
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: two wins and then a loss had been a run

623
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: for him. But you know, you always hear coach mister Faber,

624
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: excuse me talking about the upper bound limits. We loved

625
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: him in Favors Weed Thriller in terms of his acting,

626
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 1: but that's you know, and he's got a weird tattoo

627
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: of your eye on his leg. None of that stuff

628
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: matters in terms of his growth as a fighter, Luke,

629
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: I've been tricked twice in the last three years. But

630
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: he's thirty two now. It's not that he can't win

631
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: any fight at any time, but he can't get consistent,

632
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: and that has always been the problem here. This is

633
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: not an easy matchup for him. This is going to

634
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: be a referendum type matchup. I could see him winning

635
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: it in us getting tricked again, But is he that

636
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: type of guy, Luke, who's never really gonna find it.

637
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: He seems like me and my commitment to exercise over

638
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: the past decade.

639
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. He's thirty two. He'll be thirty three

640
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: not till June. So he just turned thirty two, or

641
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: you know, relatively recently turned thirty two. This is the

642
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: thing for me. So he's not too old, and I

643
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: do think highly of him as a fighter. But two

644
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: things that point out. One he lost to Sadik Yusuf

645
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: and he lost to Bryce Mitchell. That means he got outstruck,

646
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: and it means he got out grappled, okay by guys

647
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: who are sort of higher in that division at this point.

648
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: That's the first problem. The second problem is so like

649
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: in other words, it's not like he's like getting beat

650
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: because he's got one sort of you know, aspect of

651
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: his game that hasn't come along far enough. It's that

652
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: no matter which way he goes, there appear to be

653
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: guys at featherweight who can really handle him. That's the

654
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: first problem. The second problem is he's been in UFC.

655
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: He made his debut in UFC in twenty thirteen PC.

656
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: He's been here for almost ten years now. Granted he

657
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: got here when he was about about twenty three or so,

658
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: so he's very young when he got here. But I

659
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: think if you're going to see the development at thirty

660
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: two years old, now you got to do it right now.

661
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: Now is the time. There's really not a lot. If

662
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: he doesn't turn a corner fairly quickly, then I don't

663
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: know if there's a corner to be turned to really

664
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: go to the next level of his career.

665
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: Is it more dramatic than that than we realized? When

666
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: you do consider the last five, he's oh and three

667
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: with a I'm sorry last four, he's so what one

668
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: in three with a no contest in his last five.

669
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: I can't speak so one, three and one basically or one.

670
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: You extend that with another loss. I mean, you're you're

671
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: talking job security issues at that point, and it's tough

672
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: for a guy that's flashy, can be fun and when

673
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: he is having success with with with with aggressive striking.

674
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: You know, I thought I saw the rise of patients,

675
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: of more technique, of more planning, and some of that

676
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: has gone out the window. A great opportunity for Bill

677
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: Algio Luke to to raise his stock against a name

678
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: we respect. But yeah, it is referendum time. It is

679
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: now or never for for Touchy Feely.

680
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: By the way, they both have a common opponent, Joe

681
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,719
Speaker 2: Anderson Brito, who Bill Algo beat Bill Algio. Of course, lastly,

682
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: you'll remember him from the Ortego Hedriguez card in Long

683
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: Island beating Herbert Burns. Herbert Burns tried every submission he

684
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: could along the way and couldn't get it done. Bill

685
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: Algio very very talented fighter. I think he's out of

686
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: extreme coteur. I think I met him when I went

687
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: to go interview Eric Nixon at the at his office.

688
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I heard that was great.

689
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: I heard that went great. Well, I mean, someone was like, hey,

690
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: fuck off, Luke, I don't want to ever spend time

691
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: with you unless I have to. And I was like, okay,

692
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: I mean I can make that happen if you want.

693
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not my calls.

694
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm out, you know, you know, for work, it's different.

695
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: Look for work, I'm I'm a you know, I'm a

696
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm a shower upper and a deliverer. Luke. I did

697
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: want to mention the odds on both the main and Colemane,

698
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: which are very close at this moment. In that main

699
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: event according to Caesar Sportsbook, minus two hundred Corey Sanagan

700
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: plus one seventy for Song You Dong, and in this

701
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: co main event, I'm sorry, in this fight, in particular,

702
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: the third fight down on the card minus one twenty

703
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: for Touching Phely, plus one hundred for Bill Algio. They're

704
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: given the odds makers given respect to Andre Peely, Luke,

705
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be a tough fight.

706
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it is gonna be a tough fight. I actually,

707
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: you know, I would expect that Algio would win based

708
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: on current form, but it's I think it's fairly close

709
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: ish in that regard. So that's a fun fight also

710
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: as well. Be see there's a couple other sort of

711
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: interesting ones. The guy who I think it was Week

712
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: one or Week two from the Contender series, one of

713
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: the guys who trains with Sean Brady, Joseph Pifer, is

714
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: on this card taking on Alan Amadovski. The card will

715
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: open with the Canadian Lumberjack himself, Tanner Bosser taken on

716
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: Hadrigo Naciamento, also BC on the card.

717
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of undercard magic, Luke, there's a

718
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: lot of reasons to tune in earlier.

719
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Damon Jackson taken on Pat Sabatini. Pat Sabatini might

720
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: be one of the most underrated up and comers in

721
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: all of the UFC. Aspen Ladd taken on Sarah McMahon

722
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: at vansamweight.

723
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: Why don't you pause right there? Okay, you ready? Why

724
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: don't you pause right there? Look, this is the second

725
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: most interesting fight in the card, Aspen Lad Sarah McMahon.

726
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: Women's ban Ye.

727
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: How many more chances does Aspin Ladd get to be well,

728
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: certainly the next big thing potentially at bantamwaight, but you

729
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: know you put that with an asterisk because it's not

730
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: gonna take much in three of the four women's divisions

731
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: in the UFC, with you know, Strawway being the only

732
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: instantly deep one to become a title contender. To make noise,

733
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: we have watched aspin lad go through this before. Oh,

734
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the fight where we're not gonna

735
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 1: have weight issues and we're not gonna experiment at Featherway.

736
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: Oh we're back at Banwey. Look, she just had that

737
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 1: big close up against Raquel Pennington and came away with

738
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: another decision loss in which you exit that going something's

739
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: wrong here? Is it the trainer fighter connection? I know

740
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: that's further amplified by her and Jim West having that relationship.

741
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: But you know, the talent that we've seen in her

742
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: better moments, which certainly you have to look back at

743
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: her last win, the twenty nineteen stoppage of Yana Kanitskaya,

744
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: in which she went back to the corner after the

745
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: second round, got an earfull and came out in thirty

746
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: three seconds and finished a very tough fighter and a

747
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: former title challenger. That has been though the only bright

748
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: spot in four fights. Okay, she loses to GDR in

749
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: sixteen seconds, questionable stoppage, whatever, but most recently the loss

750
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: by decision at featherweight to normal Dumont and then this

751
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: one to Raquel. You're not seeing those flashes of brilliance

752
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: translate into consistency in the cage. I hear a lot

753
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: of yelling out of aspen Lad when she sets up

754
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: her strikes, but she consistently comes up short, starting from

755
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: too far out, and a lot of wasted movement and

756
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: noise for somebody who's having a hard time channeling that

757
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: version of her and maybe her greatest round there, as

758
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned against Kanitskaya, she loses here. Look, I mean,

759
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: let's be honest about where she is coming in in

760
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: a division with very little depth, and I get that

761
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: one of these fights was at one forty five. She's

762
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: one in three in her last four. If she had

763
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: beaten penalty, she's probably in a title shot, because that's

764
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: just where we're at. Bantamweight. Sarah McMahon is, you know,

765
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: over forty but still as tough as nail. Is always

766
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: going to be a tough out in the specific areas

767
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: on the ground in which she shines. But Luke, we're

768
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: talking about put up her, shut up for touchy feely

769
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: potentially for Corey Sanhagen in terms of his title implications.

770
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: Maybe put up or shut up, dude. For aspen Ladd's future,

771
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: it's it's now or never. And Luke, you no, no,

772
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: you've seen her. She's aggressive, she can take you down

773
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: her ground and pound when motivated. This fantastic, But there

774
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: is a disconnect in the wiring between the talent and

775
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: potential and the execution and the cage. You know, you

776
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: don't want to just automatically point out the trainer and

777
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: blow that thing up because of how some people don't

778
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: like their relationships. I don't care about that side of it, Luke.

779
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: I care about is she getting maximized as a fighter.

780
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: She's not. So I won't call this the BC Super

781
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: Sloppy Wednesday Special. But am I wrong? There's a lot

782
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: of future implications that's going to come out of this

783
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: fight that are going to either be very good or

784
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: very bad for aspen Led.

785
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: I think you nailed it. I don't have much to add,

786
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: but I would say even that when she has over Kunitskaya,

787
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: that was the one in DC? Was that not the one?

788
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: Correct me? If I'm wrong and I could be wrong

789
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 2: about this, Was that not the one where her coaches

790
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: had to kind of will her and she had that

791
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 2: late sir.

792
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I described it as a minute ago, Luke.

793
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I missed that part of it, but I

794
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: think that. I mean, even the one when there was

795
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: like the fight was slipping away as of the point, Yeah,

796
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: took to go over here and then she capped again.

797
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: You're right. All of her fights through the Ubanks fight,

798
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, she's on fire. Remember when she

799
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: beats a sjar UBANKX. That was fight of the night

800
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: at that time. And she was undefeated all the way

801
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: through eight fights and then here we are now at night.

802
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 2: She went from eight to o to now nine and three.

803
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: Not a great run, as you indicated. So and by

804
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: the way, McMahon, the interesting part is, well, she's you know,

805
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: she's you know, insanely well muscledly has the enormously decorated

806
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: background in wrestling. But the truth about that is like

807
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: she's been on the decline. She's a lot older. How

808
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: old is Sarah McMahon she currently sits at I'll tell

809
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: you right now, dude, she's forty one. She's forty one

810
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: years old. She is not young. So for aspin Lad.

811
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: You know you're not getting prime Sarah McMahon. You're getting

812
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: a very tough version of her, but not the very

813
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: best version of her. If you're gonna get a win

814
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 2: over her, and this is a perfectly good time. But

815
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: by the way, Sarah McMahon is coming off of a

816
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: win I believe she has she has with Carol Roso.

817
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: And she looked very good in it. And I was

818
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: always critical, like, look, I never gave Juliana Pana lot

819
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: of credit for kind of barely beating McMahon in the

820
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: fight before her title opportunity. I didn't think that was

821
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: the right setup. McMahon's won me over in her comeback fight,

822
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: but isn't style wise this the exact matchup in which

823
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: aspin LED's gonna have to show us that she can

824
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: be a beast on the feet.

825
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: That's right. You got to have something for her, a

826
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: little bit extra. And you know the thing about I

827
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: was gonna say about me Mansa is she's been up

828
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: and down. She went against Rosa, she lost against Paenna,

829
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: she went against Landsberg. She had two in a row

830
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: against Vieira and Renault that she lost. So it's not

831
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: like she's been on a consistent hot streak either. But

832
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: with that wrestling, with that athleticism, and you know she's

833
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: gonna stick to a game plan if nothing else, you

834
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 2: need to have another gear ready to beat someone like that.

835
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: They're beat a bull. But only if what you have,

836
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: everything is lined up, You're ready to go. You've got

837
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: a good game plan, you are who you say you are, right,

838
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: that's a winnable scenario for Aspen Lab. But if that's

839
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 2: not un played, there's nothing. By the way, BC also

840
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: in this card, maybe this will get your Super Sloppy

841
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: Special Award. I don't know. Maria Agoppova ticket on Jillian

842
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: rob at Flyway. You like that one.

843
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: I like that one a lot because technically Agappova was

844
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: lost two of three. I mean, you know, got subbed

845
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: by Marina Morosian a close competitive fight, and then of

846
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: course had the largest upset betting wise in UFC history.

847
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: When was it Shana Dobson. She did that against Luke

848
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: whid She was just so here's the deal. I actually

849
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: liked a lot of what I saw out of Agappova

850
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: before the loss to moros I liked the look she's

851
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: got some physical advantages, the length, the quickness of that

852
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: left cross. I mean, you know, there was sort of

853
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: like early you wanna comparisons in her striking in terms

854
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: of the intention, the intensity, the fast rhythm of the combinations.

855
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't think all the air was let out of

856
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: the balloon. And the devastating loss to Dobson. I thought

857
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: she rebounded well since then, but you know, you lose here,

858
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: you suddenly lost three or four. So this is a

859
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: really good opportunity against a veteran and Julian Robinson for

860
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: Agapov to show us again that next level thing that

861
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: got us excited when she made the graduation from the

862
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: series to the UFC during the pandemic, when you know

863
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: the door was opened for guys to make a big

864
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: name or women to make a you know, make a

865
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: big opportunity out of it. I still believe, Luke, Do

866
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: you still believe in the upper bottle limits of Maria Agappova?

867
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: No, I've not seen anything that would leave me to

868
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: indicate that she would be able to make a run

869
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: through that division. She's got, you know, an interesting style,

870
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: and she can beat certain fighters in that division, and

871
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: I think probably have a respectable career. But have I

872
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: seen anything that leads me to believe that she can

873
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: contend for the very best of what that division has

874
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: to offer. No, I'm not okay, all.

875
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: Right, hey, Luke, Luma Luke boom Me is back at

876
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: women's starweight against Denise Gomes, and you know, I just

877
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: love her fun kickboxing style. I know it doesn't move

878
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: you that much, but that's one of those fighters. Luma

879
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: Luke boom Me is on the card. I'm getting fired up, Luke.

880
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set my alarm up for six.

881
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: She's with the Hickman Brothers out of BEng Tao. I

882
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: could be wrong about that, but I believe that's right

883
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: out in Thailand. She's talented. I think she has had

884
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: a ran too a few rough patches. But I'm telling

885
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: you the fighter to watch on that entire prelim card

886
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: is Pat Sabatini. That's the guy. Pat Sabatini is a

887
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: fucking hammer. Thirty one years old. He's got one loss

888
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty when he wasn't even in UFC. He's

889
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: had four UFC fights, He's won them all. Let's see.

890
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: He beat Tristan Connelly, he beat Jamal Emmers, he beat

891
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: Tucker Lutz, who was in this area who I like

892
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: a lot, and then he beat TJ. Laramie like the

893
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: dude is an absolute handful, So be on the lookout

894
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 2: for that one, all right, BC. That takes us now

895
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: to topic number two, which is the biggest combat sports

896
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: event of the weekend by a mile. Although I got

897
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: to say we were talking about this pre show with

898
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: the staff, the buzz on this has not been what

899
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: I had expected it. But Canelo Alvarez will fight Cannati

900
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: Gailofkin for the third time. I believe this will be

901
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: a super middleweight contest BC at one hundred and sixty

902
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: eight pounds. If memory serves for the MMA fans who

903
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: are watching, set this up a little bit. They're fighting

904
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: for the third time. What do we need to know

905
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: about the first two? What do we need to know

906
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: about this matchup?

907
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: Look short of Pachiel Marquez right here, Glove against Canelo

908
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: is the rivalry of this boxing era. Right it has

909
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: been fantastic. They delivered in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen,

910
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: two highly successful pay per view bouts that delivered in

911
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: that mixture of having a classic title fight of technique

912
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: and an adaptability mixed with action aggression and great power punching.

913
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: We know about the largely disputed nature. In twenty seventeen

914
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: they fought. We all thought Triple G had done either

915
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: just enough or you know, ringside I think I scored

916
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: that one seventeen one eleven, so I thought he did

917
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: more than just enough. He comes away with a very

918
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: disputed draw. We know about one eighteen one ten for

919
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: Adelaide Bird. The rematch the next year was delayed by

920
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: Canela Alvarez failing a steroid test for clen butterol, Triple

921
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: G accusing him of having h needle insertion marks all

922
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: over his body in the first fight. I mean, it

923
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: got soap opera ish and Luke, that second fight was

924
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: even better, one of the greatest fights I've ever been

925
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: ringside four. I think in this modern era again of

926
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: a pay per view that delivers, I thought Triple G

927
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: won seven rounds to five. I think this time people

928
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: were split. You saw a lot of people ringside media

929
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: scoring it for Canelo seven rounds to five. The difference

930
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: in that rematch of twenty eighteen was, for the first time,

931
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: Canelo stopped committing to just be in the boxer, and

932
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: he started to try to walk triple g down and

933
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: what we got was incredible two way action between two

934
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: big punchers with historically great chins. But the theme heading

935
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: into this third fight is like, what the hell has

936
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: happened in the four years since? Well, what happened immediately

937
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: after was HBO got out of boxing, deown through a

938
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: shit ton of money at both Canelo and Glofkin to

939
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: essentially set up this third fight to hang their hat on,

940
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: to prove their business right. Along with Anthony Joshua, who's

941
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: been there since the beginning, it never happened. Canelo wasn't

942
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: that interested, blah blah blah. Also, obviously, Alvarez has moved

943
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: up subsequently to one sixty eight and one seventy five

944
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: on basically a full time basis. This will be the

945
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: first fight of the trilogy. At one sixty eight, all

946
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: four of Canelo's belt are still on the line, and

947
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: even though Glufkin is forty years old, which has dramatically

948
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: shifted the betting odds, with Glufkin being basically like a

949
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: four to one underdog in this because of how great

950
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: Canelo has rose in the four years since their second fight,

951
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: became the Pomper Pound King won titles and two more

952
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: divisions right became the undisputed champion. There is a feeling

953
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: this time like it's partially a bit of a cash

954
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: in partially a bit of like, well, finally Designe got

955
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: their shit together and got these two to finally make

956
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: the fight. But Luke, you and I have talked about

957
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: it in the last six months when this topic is

958
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: brought up, me and I think a lot of the

959
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: hardcore boxing audience has actually turned back around now in reality, Look,

960
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: Triple G hasn't lost since that second Canalo fight, and

961
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: again that's a very disputed loss. Does he look his

962
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: age now more than ever. Yes, he's slowed down, he

963
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: takes more damage than ever, But he just knocked out

964
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: Real Morada in Japan to unify midleway titles. He's still

965
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: doing big things. There's not a lot of big buzz

966
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: because neither guy is playing into the true nature of

967
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: the fact that they don't like each other. In fact, Luke,

968
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: they're going over the top to try to act like

969
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal. This fight is a major

970
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: big deal for both of them in terms of they're

971
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: the each other's biggest rival, and for Glovekin, similar to

972
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: Marquez against Pacquiao, there's this feeling like he's been screwed

973
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: no matter what he does each step of the way,

974
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: but now he gets this one gravy chance for revenge

975
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: and redemption. Look, I think by the time they get

976
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: in the ring on Saturday, the buzz will be back,

977
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: the interest will be there. And whether it is Canelo

978
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: knocking him out like some people think, or whether we

979
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: get a third straight competitive you know, up in the air,

980
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: flip a coin on who won, it's gonna be a

981
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: great fight. There's no way it can't be. They've slowed

982
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: down just a bit. Canelo has a much different fighter,

983
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: style wise and physically since that second fight. I get it, why,

984
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, and I think Luke, to be honest, Canelo

985
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 1: losing to Dimitri Bevall in May at one seventy five,

986
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: but against a fighter with a style that's very similar

987
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: to what Glovekin does, I think it's kind of brought

988
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: us back in Now. If Canelo wasn't coming off a loss,

989
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: would this fight be bigger? Maybe maybe that's part of

990
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: the reason. But separate from this, the promotion's ability to

991
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: yank in the casual fans. You cannot be anything, I think,

992
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: but fired up about this. Could you have fear that

993
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: it's too little, too late for Triple G, that he's

994
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: just going to be set up to get stopped to

995
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: the body here maybe, but look, neither one of these

996
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 1: guys has been down as a pro. And you saw

997
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: that second fight. They landed bombs on each other and

998
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: they just kept comming. It's one of the most incredible, manliest,

999
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: high technique but action fights we've seen. It's hard not

1000
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: to drink the juice all over again and get fired

1001
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: up for what this fight means, what it can deliver

1002
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: entertaining wise, and also Luke Legacy wise, Dude, for both

1003
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: of these guys, it's a big deal. It really is.

1004
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 2: I'm fired up. Please almost understand me, But I'm just

1005
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: trying to understand, like why there isn't a wider amount

1006
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: of buzz for it. I think the fact that Canel

1007
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: is coming off the losses part of it. Also Triple

1008
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: G's last fight. I'm not sure how many people saw

1009
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 2: it because it was in Japan, so keep that in mind.

1010
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: The other thing I would say, though, is like, is

1011
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: there anything to be said about Matchroom and their understanding

1012
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: of how to promote in the American market. Is there

1013
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: anything to that that's.

1014
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: A fair point.

1015
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: You know.

1016
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: I thought they've done you know, good to very good

1017
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: at times with Anthony Joshua, particularly his US debut which

1018
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: was supposed to be that big deal, and then Andy

1019
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: Ruiz was the last minute replacement at MSG and we

1020
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: saw what happened. But No, Luke, to be honest, I

1021
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: don't really think they've done over above and beyond with

1022
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: their more US based, big name fighters, Canelo obviously being

1023
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: top of that list because he fights basically exclusively in

1024
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: the US. No, I don't feel like they've done a

1025
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: great job. And maybe they've been up against it for

1026
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: those reasons we mentioned, But I feel like everyone's just

1027
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: sort of going, this fight's this weekend. You're kidding me.

1028
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: That's not a great thing, Luke. Will all the sales

1029
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: come as we get closer, because it's guaranteed to be

1030
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,479
Speaker 1: a compelling fight. It might be, but no, I don't

1031
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: think you know, if you're gonna point that finger directly,

1032
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: it's been I mean, look, Canelo loves being with that

1033
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: dye Hern. He purposely came back to him after the

1034
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: one off on showtime for the Caleb Plant fight. But

1035
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: I don't feel like this has kicked the doors in

1036
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: to get people excited in a way that maybe it deserves,

1037
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: even just on legacy alone. Like, even if you doubt

1038
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: that Triple G can be that same guy, this is

1039
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: still as big of a fight as you can make

1040
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: in the sport.

1041
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: It really is, all right, So walk me through a

1042
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: world where Triple G wins. How does that shake up

1043
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: the boxing world?

1044
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: You know, for him, it would be righting the wrong

1045
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: of not only his only defeat, but the only person.

1046
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he said close fights. I thought Danny

1047
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: Jacobs fot him to a draw even that win after

1048
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: the Canelo fights there against Sergei der Vinchenko, you could

1049
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: have argued, you could argued the other way, but look,

1050
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: Triple G's true Hall of Fame legacy is already established.

1051
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: Why he had a twenty three fight knockout streak in

1052
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: his prime. He broke the middleweight record that Bernard Hopkins

1053
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: had and seemed unbeatable. You know, of twenty middleweight title defenses.

1054
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: Just earlier this year he unified middleweight titles. I mean,

1055
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: he's still going, but he is forty. Now. This is

1056
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: about that other side of his legacy repairing the one loss,

1057
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: but the layers that come on top of that, the

1058
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: disputed judge's decisions, the steroids, the fact that you know

1059
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: he feels like the fresher faced money fighter got the

1060
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt every time, more often than not,

1061
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: more than he should have. Dude, if Galofkin at forty

1062
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: can beat the guy, that still gets my vote as

1063
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: pound for pound best in the game, even with that

1064
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: Bevall loss. I'm one of the only voters left keeping

1065
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: him there, and I think I'm right by the way,

1066
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this would mean so

1067
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: much more than it would have meant in twenty seventeen,

1068
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: when Canelo was the smaller guy moving up in weight

1069
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: and we had doubts he made. Let's not forget he

1070
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: made Triple G wait two years before the first fight

1071
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: for really no reason. Then he let him get old.

1072
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: But now it's like things are flipped. Now Canello's considered

1073
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: the bigger man. He fought at sixty eight and seventy

1074
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: five and was walking dudes down and knocking them out.

1075
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: He's no longer the boxer from the first glove Can fight.

1076
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: It was really the second glove Can fight that created

1077
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: the shift change of his style where he started coming forward.

1078
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: It's been a big part of why he's so singing

1079
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: dangerous and I think he's the best fighter of the world.

1080
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: But for glove Can Luke, it would be the ultimate

1081
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: sort of fu back at parts of the boxing business

1082
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: that people hate. And I think that's why Triple G,

1083
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: who's always been a fan favorite guy, he's got corny

1084
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: catchphrases right, he knocks people out. I think people fans,

1085
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: the hardcore fans, have been behind this forever, saying I

1086
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: don't care if they're fifty. When they finally make it,

1087
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: Triple G deserves the chance to right the wrong and Luke,

1088
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fair. Was that first Fighter robbery, Yes,

1089
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: including that I scored it, you know, nine rounds to

1090
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: three at ringside and subsequently seven to five. I thought

1091
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: it was a little closer than I realized. But here's

1092
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: the point. It was closer than a lot of people realize.

1093
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: It's just that one eighteen for Adelaide Bird just made

1094
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: it a mockery. The reality is that like these guys

1095
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: are as close as you can get, at least they

1096
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: were in that window of twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen.

1097
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: It's not as much of a robbery in that regard,

1098
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: but it's still gonna mean something to Glofkin, who is

1099
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: a fighters fighter. He's old school. People love this guy.

1100
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: Now he's got a chance to go beat the machine

1101
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: and beat the guy that he I mean, it's perfect

1102
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: setup for him to put a ginormous capstone on top

1103
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: of his already Hall of Fame legacy.

1104
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: All right, let's reverse the roles here now. As you indicated,

1105
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 2: Canelo is expected to win, and I do expect him

1106
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 2: to win. Walk me through a scenario where he wins

1107
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: and whatever, but also walk me through a scenario where

1108
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: he stops TRIPLEG. What is the narrative then?

1109
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: I think the narrative that not many people are talking

1110
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: about enough here, and I hope to ask Canelo about

1111
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: it later today when I interview him, is really what

1112
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: is the emotional reason why to take this fight? Right now?

1113
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: I do feel fe like he's taking it because not

1114
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: necessarily because he has to. Canelo is at a different

1115
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: point of leverage than any other fighter in the game.

1116
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: To be fair, right, when you're pomp for pound king

1117
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,479
Speaker 1: and the biggest start, membership has its benefits. But Luke

1118
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: the zone's been on him for a while. He knows

1119
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: the fans really want this. He's also not dumb. He

1120
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: realizes by taking this fight, it's going to be the

1121
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: biggest fight he's had in years. I mean it is,

1122
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: It really is, because that's what this matchup means. So

1123
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: I think as you're looking at this from a betting

1124
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: standpoint and from a what does Triple G have left standpoint,

1125
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: I think we also have to ask ourselves what is

1126
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: the motivation for Canelo to find that next level? Luke.

1127
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: I saw their face off yesterday Monday or during in

1128
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, during like you know, the pay per view

1129
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: arrivals week. It got me fired up, dude, it got

1130
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: me fired up. The intensity between them is you know,

1131
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: Canelos still dial back into that, I think certainly, But

1132
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: on the surface, there's not a ton to gain with

1133
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: a second victory, you know, outside of shutting up people

1134
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: who think, you know, it was robbery or he got

1135
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. But you mentioned the knockout,

1136
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: the stoppage. I think that's where the opening is to

1137
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: make this performance and what this would mean to his

1138
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: legacy something much bigger. Dude, Kannadi Gilufkin doesn't just have

1139
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: a great chin. He's got among one of the best,

1140
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: like the best gans we've ever seen. He had three

1141
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty amateur fights and now what you know,

1142
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, forty something profiles almost

1143
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: four hundred fights.

1144
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: Dude.

1145
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: It's not just that he's never been knocked down. It's

1146
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: not just that every single interview I've ever had, going

1147
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: back to like twenty twelve, I've always asked him, dude,

1148
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: I know you've never been down, but if you've been buzzed,

1149
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: have you been anything? And he always goes, Nah, didn't

1150
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: feel it, you know, not a big deal. Whatever I mean?

1151
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: Is that machismo? Maybe? But Luke Danny Jacobs sat him

1152
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: with a combination in the end of their fight at

1153
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: the MSG that you know, would have knocked anybody out cold.

1154
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: Canello and round nine of the second fight hit him

1155
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: with this right hand that was just ridiculous, and he

1156
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: took it and came back. Yes, he's forty, Yes he's

1157
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: easier to hit, but he is an all time legend

1158
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,959
Speaker 1: whose only loss came against the best fighter of this era.

1159
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: If Canelo can go in a third time knowing that

1160
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: there's not a ton to really gain reputation wise with

1161
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 1: a win and knock this guy out. Yeah, motherfucker, that's

1162
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: that's a how you like me now on a second

1163
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: half of his career that's had nothing but those moments

1164
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: time and time again. So I do give Canelo respect

1165
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: that he never felt emotionally like there was a reason

1166
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: he wanted this. He was always upset at Golufkin for

1167
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: the steroid comments and never wanted to reward him with

1168
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: another fight, But just knowing what's expected of somebody as

1169
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: the star of the game and knowing the history between them,

1170
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: he has accepted this four years later. I get that,

1171
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: But he was doing other things in other divisions. It's

1172
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: not like he was sitting around. Yeah, Luke, I mean,

1173
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: what does the world look like Saturday Sunday morning for you?

1174
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: If Canelo goes in there and stops Triple G, that's crazy.

1175
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: I think he could undo a lot of the damage

1176
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: of the Bivol fight. Not that I think the Bivul

1177
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: fight necessarily. Oh, Canelo was overraty because to your point,

1178
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: he had unified completely Super Middle eight with that Caleb

1179
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: Plant victory that we were there for. I think was

1180
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: at November of this past or about a year ago

1181
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 2: at this point, almost nearly ten months. So I think

1182
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: it would undo a little bit of the damage in

1183
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: the Bivol fight, where Canelo just you know, he pretty

1184
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 2: clearly lost that one, but it was at one seventy five,

1185
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: and so what can you say if he goes in

1186
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 2: there and stops Triple G again very tall order, which

1187
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: I'm not even trying and think he will do. I'm

1188
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: pretty sure he'll win, but I'm not sure what he'll

1189
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: do beyond that. But if he actually is able to

1190
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: do that, I think it would just end up coloring

1191
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 2: the entire trilogy. Where yes, I thought Canelo lost the

1192
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 2: first one and he skated by because of some insane scorecards,

1193
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,479
Speaker 2: but the draw stays. He won the second fight, I thought,

1194
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: fair and square and forever, all the delays and whatever

1195
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: else in between and the bad blood to then go

1196
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: out there and then finally put the guy away, it

1197
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: would be as poetic a finish as Canelo could craft

1198
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: that there is. I don't know what else he could

1199
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: possibly do to shut the door on that rivalry, get

1200
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: some of the mojo back from the fight against BIVL

1201
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: and BC. Correct me if I'm wrong. He signed a

1202
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 2: two fight deal with Eddie Hearn, that one being the

1203
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: Bivoll fight and the Triple G fight. Wouldn't he be

1204
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: a contractual free agent yet again here after Saturday Night.

1205
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, unless he's added to that in ways that we

1206
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: don't know, which you know, could make him. I mean,

1207
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: it's always gonna make a big bidder for his services.

1208
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: But you do, look at he's got a couple of

1209
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: divisions to pick from me. Yeah, this could be uh

1210
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: in that regard. Look, I'm so damn I fired up

1211
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: for this fight.

1212
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 2: Dane miss one more question too about this. But now

1213
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: for folks, I'll be asking how do I watch this?

1214
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: It's gonna be on de Zone, but it's gonna be

1215
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: on dizone pay per view because the Zones pitch that

1216
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: they were the answer to pay per view, which is

1217
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: how they exclusively pitched themselves as pay per views dying

1218
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 2: worthy alternative to it. One monthly fee you don't ever

1219
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 2: have to pay again, that turned out to be a

1220
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 2: big fucking lie. Instead, you have to pay for it

1221
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: even on top of having a di Zone subscription. The

1222
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: way it's gonna work is if you don't have the Zone,

1223
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: you can still get it, I think for eighty five

1224
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 2: bucks eighty four ninety nine. If you are a subscriber,

1225
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 2: I pulled it up here. I am a de Zone subscriber.

1226
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 2: You can get it for sixty five dollars. I got

1227
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 2: to tell you, not my favorite thing that the Zone

1228
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: lie ended up costing for sures even more in the end.

1229
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: But of course, and they wanted to, as I said,

1230
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: use this trilogy fight four years ago as like a

1231
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: launching pad of what you know, free boxing can look

1232
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: like it's not free.

1233
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: But you get my point.

1234
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, look but at the same time, Luke, you're

1235
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: not going to argue is it deserving or the merits

1236
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: of it in that regard?

1237
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: No, No, it's if you're going to pay for a

1238
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: great boxing fight, this is one to pay for.

1239
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, And they have delivered throughout And obviously you

1240
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: know we're gonna get into our detailed x's and o's

1241
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: preview at Friday and prediction, but you know there's a lot.

1242
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: I got a really good feature on Triple G about

1243
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: his mindset and game plan entering this one, about whether

1244
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: you know there is a need for drastic change in

1245
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: terms of maybe seeking a knockout rather than trying to

1246
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 1: box or not based on some of the changes Canela

1247
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: has made. So a lot of interesting stuff there. But Luke,

1248
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: we've also got some sound to sort of pepper in

1249
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:58,959
Speaker 1: and why.

1250
00:56:58,880 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 2: Don't you set some of it up.

1251
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll talk to Tanner Jonathan Banks. He was

1252
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: not in Gannatti's corner the first two Canelo fights. That

1253
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: was Able Sanchez who trained Ganatti for the bulk of

1254
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 1: his championship career. But Luke, you look at the punch

1255
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: numbers from the first two fights. You know what was

1256
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: the giant void for Canelo. It was to the body

1257
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: and that was weird because under Able Sanchez, you know,

1258
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: he had developed this Mexican style, so to speak. But

1259
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: he was a jab hungry headhunter against Canelo, and I

1260
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 1: think that's a big part in the second fight why

1261
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: Canelo crawled back in. He dropped that trainer. He brought

1262
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: in Jonathan Banks, you may know him as Vladimer Klitchko's

1263
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: trainer on the second half of his carafter Emmanuel Stewart died.

1264
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: Kronk Jim All that former fighter himself. Here's Jonathan Banks

1265
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: looking back at the first two fights in his opinion

1266
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: of what happened, and you know how that may play

1267
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: in to the changes they need to make for fight three.

1268
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: It's kind of weird because.

1269
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 4: To really get into this trilogy, you know, and after

1270
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 4: to delete the first two fights, you know. The only

1271
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 4: the reason I say that is because both fighters are

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00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:16,959
Speaker 4: different than the first two fights. You know, coming into

1273
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 4: the first fight, Canelo was known as the boxing It

1274
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 4: was known as a mover as a boxing and and

1275
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 4: after after what four years later, he's not moving, He's

1276
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 4: not moving anymore.

1277
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,439
Speaker 3: He was a smaller guy coming in the first.

1278
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 4: The first two fights, he's the he's the fifth, he's

1279
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 4: the heavier guy coming into the third.

1280
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: You know. So when you got when you got that.

1281
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 4: Big of a difference in in the stars and matchups,

1282
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 4: then everything everything is just everything is different. So no,

1283
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be Canelo trying to move around no more.

1284
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 4: It's gonna be Canelo trying to get face to face

1285
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 4: and trying to and trying to call his most pain

1286
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 4: as possible.

1287
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: I can ask the question, we see these are good clips,

1288
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: are we going to go through Are we going to

1289
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: go through all of them?

1290
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: No?

1291
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: Okay, I think he's right by the way, I think

1292
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: He's right that they really have to treat this differently.

1293
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: Why do you think he went with this particular trainer

1294
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: as opposed to who he had.

1295
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: I did ask Triple G, we won't throw to it,

1296
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: but essentially, you know, is he a different boxer under

1297
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: Jonathan Banks? And sort of you know what was his

1298
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: interest there? He said it was more about wanting to

1299
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: get that cronc style, wanting to really get a taste

1300
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: of that and a feel of that. Uh you know,

1301
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: and things did break down to a certain degree. I think,

1302
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: even financially with Able Santis, Triple G hit a certain point. Luke.

1303
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: You know how a boxing fighter has to give a

1304
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: percentage of their purse to like the manager and the trainer.

1305
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: But as they start to rise up that purse rise,

1306
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: it's like a lot, you know what I mean. Some

1307
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: people thought that Triple G cut the chord with the

1308
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,479
Speaker 1: trainer and the manager at that time when he signed

1309
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: that one hundred million dollar deal with his own to

1310
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: basically say, hey had a great run with you guys,

1311
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: but I'm not raising that percentage up to this level.

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01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: You know.

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01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I get that. I do want to hear

1314
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 2: from can we hear the can I set up one

1315
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 2: of the triple.

1316
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: G ones out go for it, take it, take it.

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01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: I want to hear Triple g it's the last one

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01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: of the ones we have of all the clips. Triple

1319
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: g on actually, yes, triple g on the scoring in

1320
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 2: the first two fights. I would love to hear what

1321
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: he had to say.

1322
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 5: It's hard for me to say what needs to be changed,

1323
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 5: what needs to be changed, because it does not depend

1324
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 5: on me. Of course, I know that I need to

1325
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 5: get in the rink and show the best of me,

1326
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 5: best of boxing, best of what I have. At the

1327
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 5: same time, we're talking about human factor here. We're talking

1328
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 5: about honesty, fairness, qualification of judges, and sometimes you need

1329
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 5: to be you know, like head and shoulders over your

1330
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 5: opponent to be delivered like a victory or like by

1331
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 5: by scoring as the last fight Sean, because you saw

1332
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 5: the scores, and the scores did not reflect what we

1333
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 5: saw in the ring. It was not as close as

1334
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 5: the short score. So we're talking about human factor here.

1335
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing about this PC and I get

1336
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 2: that they did it probably for financial reasons. For acclaim.

1337
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 2: There's a lot of good reasons why big fights MMA

1338
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: or boxing are in Las Vegas T Mobile Arena. In fact,

1339
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: all three fights will have been in T Mobile Arena.

1340
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: There's a n nice, neat history package to all of that.

1341
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: But BC, you know this as well as I do.

1342
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: If a guy feels cheated from the first fight, or

1343
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: even the second fight, or however in this case, he

1344
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: does feel like he won both of them, he's back

1345
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas.

1346
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 3: Now.

1347
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll have some new judges here. They're gonna

1348
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: do their best rotation.

1349
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: But like the key, I agree with you.

1350
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: But this is my point. It's like, don't most guys

1351
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: who feel like they got fucked by the judges, they

1352
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: don't go back twice, much less three times. Here he

1353
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: is back to the scene of the crime. I gotta

1354
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: say it's a bit of a sketch move on the

1355
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 2: part of Triple G.

1356
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: Well, it's weird because some people called out Triple G

1357
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: when he was bringing up the needle marks, you know,

1358
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: between the first and second fight on Canelo's body and

1359
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: saying the commission in Vegas knew about that. Look at

1360
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: it's right there, and people like, man, this guy's being

1361
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: petty and ridiculous. But the reality is as much as

1362
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: he's talked openly about parts of Canello's response and personality

1363
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: that he feels is not professional and not sportsmanlike. He has,

1364
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: like you said, gone back into the same you know,

1365
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: Den and Dunn and third time in Tim Moobrena, third

1366
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: time in Las Vegas, despite the I don't want to

1367
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: say questionable scoring in both because that second fight is disputed.

1368
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: It's not questionable. It's basically who did you prefer? Yeah,

1369
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: And there also, if you listen to this extended interview, Luke,

1370
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of me asking like, do you have

1371
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: to alter your strategy dramatically? Do you have to say

1372
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: fu to the judges? And maybe somewhat surprisingly, his answer

1373
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: was more in the direction of no, of almost like

1374
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: this is what I do, and this is what I

1375
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: do very good, and this is my best chance to win,

1376
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: and you know the judges will be what they will be.

1377
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: Yet in the same breath a couple minutes later, he's

1378
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: basically saying, for whatever reason, you know, they chose not,

1379
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: they purposely chose not to give me the fight. So

1380
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: he's believing in the corruption, but to your point, in

1381
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: some ways not doing anything about that. Now would it work?

1382
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: What if he publicly parade and said I'll take the fight,

1383
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: but only in Los Angeles or only in wherever maybe

1384
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: or maybe to him, Luke, it's not really about that.

1385
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: He doesn't tend to make excuses. I'll give you the

1386
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: truth about the corruption. He feels his rampant, but he

1387
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: never gives excuses necessarily about the loss, which I respect.

1388
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: So when you look at this third fight and you

1389
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: know in debate, as we will on Friday, whether he

1390
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: should alter his strategy, dude, there is familiarity with the judges. Now.

1391
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: The good news is that both Dave Mouretti and Steve

1392
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: Wisfeld are two of the most respected judges in the

1393
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: game today, which is why for Vegas super fights you

1394
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: see them all the time. Wisefeld, of the six scorecards

1395
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: in this series, he's only one went to Glovekin. That's

1396
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: not Wisefeld, it's it's uh, Dave Murretti. He scored it

1397
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: one fifteen one to thirteen Glovek in the first fight.

1398
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: He scored the second fight one fifteen one to thirteen

1399
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: in favor of Canelo. Now, Wisefeld also did the second fight.

1400
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: He scored it one fifteen one to thirteen in favor

1401
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: of Canelo. The third judge, I forgot his name is

1402
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: not in front of me. He is a first time

1403
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: for either guy, But so Luke that you could ask

1404
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: in that same regard, it's like the same guys. Russell

1405
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: Moore is going to be the ref first time in

1406
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: the series, but the rest haven't really played a monster role.

1407
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: You can criticize after the fact, especially if he goes

1408
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: in there and loses another decision that where you're like, okay, dude,

1409
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, is this the definition of uh of what?

1410
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: What's what's the phrase, Luke?

1411
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: Insanity?

1412
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: Is this insanity in front of us playing out? I

1413
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: don't know, but Luke. Interestingly enough, both Moretti and wine

1414
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: Wisefeld they judged also the Canelo bev All fight and

1415
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: both of them scored it seven rounds to five in

1416
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: favor of beev All. So they've been fair, they've been consistent. Yeah,

1417
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: we'll get into it on Friday. What kind of changes

1418
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: Triple G has to make? But I do have one

1419
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: more interesting sound, Luke. If a lot of us are wondering,

1420
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, what can Team Triple G glean from that

1421
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: bev All loss?

1422
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: Kid?

1423
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: Did they see holes in Canello's game? Let's hear Jonathan

1424
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: banks wrap that point.

1425
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 4: Up after after seeing the two fights with Gel, what

1426
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 4: did G and Beval? Two completely different fighters, completely different

1427
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 4: like that? And what Vivald did I actually felt did

1428
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 4: the first flight that's what that's that's my honest opinion.

1429
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 4: I said, that's exactly how I think Val took something

1430
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,479
Speaker 4: from G, so you don't have to take.

1431
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 3: That's that. That's how I look at it.

1432
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 4: I think Vall looked at the first fight he said, ship,

1433
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 4: that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna use my job

1434
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 4: because every time I use my job.

1435
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: Head go back.

1436
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: On.

1437
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 4: The difference is one got one got scored for it,

1438
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 4: the other one didn't. Who's who I'm not saying, but yeah,

1439
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 4: you get the get the plan, I get it right.

1440
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: But that that's what I'm saying.

1441
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 4: That's why you know how I can say like I

1442
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 4: didn't get nothing from it is because he took what

1443
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 4: he did the first fight and just I boxed and

1444
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 4: just let him.

1445
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 3: Say, what's going out work? It was a pretty simple

1446
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 3: it was a pretty simple task.

1447
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: Well, look that clip was supposed to have a joke

1448
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: on the front of it. That would have made it

1449
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: make a lot more sense. But anyway, we got it.

1450
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: Those interviews are available YouTube dot com Slash Morning Combat.

1451
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: I hope you caught that little throwing there, Luke. The

1452
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: idea of like you know, whether he slowed down or not.

1453
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: The key to victory for Triple G against Glove has

1454
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: always been living die behind that Jab. That is what

1455
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: Bevill did. So we'll see if they decide to stay

1456
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: in that lane one more time and maybe live out

1457
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: the deficient definition of insanity as we're mentioning as trying

1458
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: to out boxing out Jab, the number one fighter in

1459
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: this game.

1460
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: We'll see, all right. Topic number three. I don't have

1461
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 2: a whole lot to say about this, but it is

1462
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: an interesting development, one I suppose I did not see coming.

1463
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: Anthony Joshua apparently has agreed to Tyson Fury's terms. Listen

1464
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: to this from the two fifty eight MGT account, which

1465
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: I guess is the promotional orld of the management company

1466
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: for Anthony Joshua. Quote two fifty eight and Matchroom Boxing

1467
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: can confirm on behalf of Anthony Joshua that we have

1468
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: accepted all terms presented to us by Fury's team for

1469
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 2: a December third fight last Friday, due to the Queen's

1470
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: passing it was agreed to halt all communication. We are

1471
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: awaiting a response.

1472
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:55,479
Speaker 3: BC.

1473
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 2: Is this something to actually get excited about or is

1474
01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: this some boxing bullshit?

1475
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: It sounds like it might be because you know, look

1476
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: a separate from my idea of like, I love this fight.

1477
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: I've always wanted this fight, but I do want this

1478
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: fight to be for you know, all the belts and

1479
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: make it as big as possible. I don't want it

1480
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: shoehorned in before Usik's ready in March to have the

1481
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: dream fight we've been salivating over. Separate from that, is

1482
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: still a big event no matter what, of course it is,

1483
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: although in this case it would be Anthony Joshua coming

1484
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: off consecutive losses, which again questions the motives here. I'm

1485
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: seeing publicly Joshua saying we've accepted your term. So if

1486
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 1: money's not going to be an issue, Luke, and we

1487
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: know that the promoters, while they're not aligned with the

1488
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 1: same networks, if Joshua's gonna fight Fury, then the zone

1489
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: in ESPN are going to get in the same room

1490
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: and make it work. It's just what it is, right, Yeah,

1491
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: this makes me feel like it's gonna happen, Luke, do

1492
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: you have any issues with it happening now, like I do.

1493
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: I just don't want that to take that Why would

1494
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: you take that risk? Isn't this fight so much bigger

1495
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: after the USIK fight?

1496
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 2: I think at this point, trying to get them to

1497
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 2: fight in just the order or at just the right

1498
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: time seems like a waste. The events have played out,

1499
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 2: have the how they have played out. God only knows

1500
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: how many more fights Tyson Fury has. I know he's

1501
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 2: flirted with a retirement to come out of it a

1502
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 2: million times, but at some point it will stick. And

1503
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: for Joshua, coming off the USAK loss, what is he

1504
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: What other fight is he gonna take to rebound that

1505
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 2: would be even remotely as interesting. You could say Deontay Wilder,

1506
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: but Wilder's got the fight against Helenius. We don't know

1507
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: how that's gonna go. I would agree that I would

1508
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: love to see also a Deontay Wilder taking on a

1509
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 2: Joshua fight. You can't do Ruiz because I don't think

1510
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 2: Anthony would take it. He has the win of it

1511
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 2: in the comeback and the rematch. Why risk for a

1512
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: third one. There's no Luis Ortiz fight, no Ariola fight. Actually,

1513
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 2: at this point, Poulev who I mean, who you're gonna do?

1514
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 1: Who could you could do a Louis Ortiz fight?

1515
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: He's available that who wants to see that ship.

1516
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: Coming off losses?

1517
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 2: He's you know, come on, dude, are you really gonna

1518
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: tell me that's as exciting and interesting to you Luis

1519
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 2: Ortiz over time?

1520
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: Certainly not. So you're saying to me, like, stop being

1521
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: romantic about it, Like if we get it, be fucking

1522
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: happy we get it.

1523
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 2: I think, and I think what you're talking about is, Hey,

1524
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be better if it was structured in a

1525
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 2: certain kind of way to which I have no answer.

1526
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: I think you're one hundred percent right in that circumstance.

1527
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 2: But in the messy world of boxing, it often seems

1528
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 2: to me more like if you can strike while the

1529
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 2: iron is hot, do it. Just do it, and it

1530
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 2: won't be neat, it won't be clean. Anthony Joshua could

1531
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 2: get a third loss consecutively, He could get stopped in

1532
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 2: this fight. God only knows. But if you're going to

1533
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 2: do it, I don't know when the better time is

1534
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: going to be, given the set of circumstances and just

1535
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:39,440
Speaker 2: a sort of political.

1536
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: I now I guess I'm alone in this. And when

1537
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: I say this, I mean, what's my fear? Well, obviously

1538
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: that if you take a fight like this dangerous right

1539
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: this close before the idea of doing that undisputed fight

1540
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: next year, it's like, well, you're risking injury, you're risking loss,

1541
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: You're risking a lot of things. Am I the only

1542
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: one who thinks, given Tyson Fury's recent nature, that he

1543
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: could go out there and stop Anthony Joshua and then

1544
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: be like peace, guys. And it might not be like

1545
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm leaving forever, but it might be like gonna go

1546
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: take a long break, gonna fight them out and man,

1547
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: gonna wrestle again, Gonna try to get anghana in there. Yeah,

1548
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: maybe I'll do that undisputed thing down the road. Dude,

1549
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: down the road's not gonna be there for us, knowing boxing.

1550
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: So I guess I'm the only one that has that fear.

1551
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 1: Knowing the business avenues available to Fury and how quickly

1552
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: he does seem to bounce back and forth into like

1553
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: being serious or walking away, I mean, okay, what if

1554
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: Joshua upset him and then we go to a rematch

1555
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: with them. I mean, I'm not gonna be against that either.

1556
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: It's a great fight, but dude, we're so damn closed

1557
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: and the sport is always has these bullshit booby traps

1558
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: around every corner of Luke. Don't become a bullshit booby.

1559
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 2: Trap, right, Yeah, but it's hard to call anything that

1560
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 2: if they can do here's what I Hear's the only

1561
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: question I have, How the fuck is this fight moving along?

1562
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 2: We don't have an announcement for Crawford and Spence. That's

1563
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 2: what I can't get around. Where the hell is that announcement?

1564
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: Man dying to see if they can make that fights.

1565
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 2: Still no news, Still no news. But no, I'm not

1566
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 2: I don't nearly have the same concerns. I understand your concerns,

1567
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 2: given your longevity in the sport and how important it

1568
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 2: would be to have it under a more ideal and

1569
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 2: frankly better set of conditions. It's a much better set

1570
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: of conditions what you have offered.

1571
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: But I mean, also, Luke. Also, we're in what mid

1572
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: September right now. They're talking about doing this fight in

1573
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: like the first week of December, so like just over

1574
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: two months. This fight's too big to have a two

1575
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 1: month promotion. It just is wouldn't you want these two

1576
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: on a media tour where they're going back and forth

1577
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: at each other, then wouldn't you want it to mean something,

1578
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: meaning Joshua just knock somebody out to reclaim his But.

1579
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: If you're gonna put this in the UK like Pakia,

1580
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not the same thing as Patia Withather.

1581
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: I understand that it's not the same thing, But for

1582
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 2: the UK market it's fucking huge. Tyson Fury can't come

1583
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: over here anyway however long that's going to be in play.

1584
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: And the other part too is, dude, if they missed

1585
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: this window, do you really believe there's going to be

1586
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 2: another great window in which to make this fight? I

1587
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 2: have to tell you, I don't think that there would be.

1588
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 2: I think Tyson's got a little bit left in him

1589
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 2: and that's it.

1590
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: If Fury still wants to fight, then would you would fight? Essentially,

1591
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: this is what would happen. Fury would go in there

1592
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: against Usik in like April. He'd probably beat him. I

1593
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: think he would, and then you'd go, what's the next

1594
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: big fight?

1595
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 2: Oh?

1596
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: I know, defending all making the first undisputed four belt

1597
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: title defense against the former champion, and you know, biggest

1598
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: star in the heavyweight game, and Anthony Joshua and we're

1599
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: gonna do it in the stadium and he will have

1600
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: just had to knocked somebody out and he's back and dude, yeah,

1601
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: that's bigger, it's.

1602
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: Bigger, bigger, that's better. But that's not in any way

1603
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,919
Speaker 2: a guarantee. There's nothing guaranteed in this business.

1604
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: Okay, but it's like, oh, now you want to fight

1605
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 1: each other. You guys could have fight each other the

1606
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: last four or five years would have been great, right, Like, No,

1607
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean.

1608
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: Clo, I agree with that. I mean they fucked around

1609
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 2: and waited till a point where now we're dealing with,

1610
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: you know, suboptimal outcomes. But even those suboptimal outcomes are

1611
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: still pretty great. I still want to see this in

1612
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 2: ways that perhaps you don't even the timeline anyway, all right,

1613
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: topic number four, we got some MMA quick hitters BC.

1614
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 2: We'll go through these pretty quickly here. First up, the

1615
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 2: Nevada Athletic Commission is going to investigate the UFC two

1616
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: seventy nine press conference altercation. By the way, they're going

1617
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: to investigate the press conference. This is me taking the

1618
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 2: Nevada Athletic Commission very seriously.

1619
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I want to hit this up to you

1620
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: because even though I played the Simpleton role on Monday.

1621
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: Let's just read this quick quote from the commissioner.

1622
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: And oh I didn't know yet more, Why don't you

1623
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: go just a quick question?

1624
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: Is this is from the chairman, Stephen Klubeck quote. If

1625
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 2: the Nevada Athletic Commission determines that licensees acted improperly, we

1626
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: will initiate appropriate disciplinary action against all involved. Although trash

1627
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 2: talking between competitive athletes is common, any escalation and do

1628
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: physical altercations may discredit the sport of unarmed combat. Oh yeah, word,

1629
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 2: and is wholly unacceptable. They're not gonna do fucking shit.

1630
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: But okay, yeah right, and the UFC ain't gonna do

1631
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: shit either. Do you remember they rewarded McGregor for the

1632
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: Dolly incident with the biggest fight of all time, of course,

1633
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: not Luke. When I played Simpleton and said, look, I

1634
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: technically don't believe this was a conspiracy this past weekend,

1635
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: and I know Dana White is hammering shop up on

1636
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,719
Speaker 1: all the press conferences for believing that. But like anyone

1637
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: with a podcast, you you know, I threw out, hey,

1638
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: what if the what if part that.

1639
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 2: Seemed like you were too far away from from that worldview.

1640
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 2: By the way, well, I was like, I was under

1641
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 2: the belief adjacent.

1642
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't under the belief that like six or eight

1643
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: people were involved. I was just thinking, babe, they thought, Hey,

1644
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: why are we gonna do Nate dirty here when we

1645
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: want him to come back on a year after a

1646
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,839
Speaker 1: Jake Paul fight and fight Connor. Anyway, That's what I'm thinking,

1647
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: And then they go, you know whatever. The thing that

1648
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: people got upset was that we weren't willing while in

1649
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: the conversation of conspiracies, to go, hey, how about that

1650
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: video package that came out. Remember it was supposed to

1651
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 1: be a fifty on thirty brawl backstage that also included

1652
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: Diez's team. Look that interview that the package they put

1653
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: out didn't show shit, So shit, I agree, Like you're

1654
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: going to cancel a press conference because of that. That

1655
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: happens on stage at almost every ceremonial way in and

1656
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 1: you don't know what.

1657
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened and what didn't happen. It's

1658
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 2: the magic of editing and what they chose to even

1659
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 2: put in there. I did speak to three different people,

1660
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: by the way, who all have different jobs that don't

1661
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: even work in the same industry for the same people,

1662
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: I mean the same industry, but very different people in

1663
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 2: very different roles in the industry, I should say. And

1664
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 2: all three said it was a melee. All three said

1665
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 2: it was a melee. So it take that for what

1666
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: it's worth.

1667
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: So this is this literally one of those rare moments

1668
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: where people did not have their cell phone out in

1669
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:25,600
Speaker 1: time to capture the start of it. Do we is it?

1670
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: Is it too much to ask if the if the

1671
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: MGM Grand Garden Arena had cameras back there?

1672
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 2: Luke questions do we have access to them? Do we

1673
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: have access to that?

1674
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, did you see that? Did you see the

1675
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: documentary on the perceived conspiracy behind part of the country

1676
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:42,799
Speaker 1: music fest Las Vegas shooting?

1677
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 3: Luke?

1678
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: No, they're the same question abounded about security footage, by

1679
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: the way.

1680
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 2: All right, so they're not gonna do shit, is the answer. Okay, So,

1681
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 2: but it was the other conspiracy about hey did you

1682
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: see Hamzad? And I can't quite tell exactly what the

1683
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 2: nature of the conspiracy is, but that basically Evan Holland

1684
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: was going, remember they touch gloves before the fight, yes,

1685
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: and then they go to touch gloves and you see

1686
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 2: Jamaiah go high hand and then shoot low. To me,

1687
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 2: this is the absolute dumbest fucking controversy on Earth because

1688
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 2: going high low is not only a common strategy and

1689
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 2: a common faint, it's literally with exactly what he did

1690
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 2: against the leech. So I don't know if the argument is, oh, well,

1691
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 2: he was doing it while his hand was high, but like,

1692
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,799
Speaker 2: if you're already in motion for it or're already intending

1693
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: to do it, it's coincidental. And also they already touched gloves,

1694
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 2: Like what the fuck?

1695
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 5: Like?

1696
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 2: No, the only people who are mad about this are simpletons.

1697
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: They probably like lower thor love and thunder.

1698
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 1: Nobody hates this conversation more than the ESPN's Joe Tessitur,

1699
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: who had a very famous viral boxing SoundBite on Friday

1700
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: Night Fights where he's like, you just touch gloves, Why

1701
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: do you gotta touch again? Yeah? I hate when when

1702
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: you touch gloves before every round or whatever. Look, even

1703
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 1: if Chamaya was being you know dirty here, dude, how

1704
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: many times we have to touch gloves we're fighting? It's engay,

1705
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: it's to protect yourself at all times, which is why

1706
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: even if you you know, got mad at Floyd Mayweather

1707
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: for knocking out Victor Ortiz that time with that sucker punch,

1708
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: It's like, what else do you want that? I just

1709
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: led with his head in the headbutt and I was

1710
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: trying to hug the guy like it's a fight fight.

1711
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: But I don't even think that was part of the

1712
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: idea because I think that's what Chamaia was gonna do anyway,

1713
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 1: So that part is stupid to me, Luke. But you

1714
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: know it's not stupid to me, Luke. I mean, like

1715
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: when the dollar shit happened, they had all these camera

1716
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,520
Speaker 1: angles and they used it as like the main centerpiece

1717
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: to sell that fight over and over again.

1718
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1719
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 1: I have to believe they have access to better footage

1720
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: that would have better sold the idea that chamiavan Holland

1721
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: were in a war that was so crazy that other

1722
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: people got No. I don't That's the thing I don't believe.

1723
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna don't put me at don't Alex

1724
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: Jones me, Luke, Okay, I'm just saying there's there are

1725
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: some unexplained holes in this plot.

1726
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 2: That's what I have to say. I agree with that.

1727
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 2: I think what they've shown doesn't show a melee. But

1728
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm just there's enough corroborating evidence at this point for

1729
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,480
Speaker 2: me to conclude that they're not doing a fucking scam.

1730
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: I mean, would you what would you actually think if

1731
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: I was? Yeah, but Luke, I have this session with

1732
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: dynamic showmaking.

1733
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 2: I know, so then you should have done the look

1734
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 2: at the rundown ahead of time and been on the

1735
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 2: show on time. But you weren't.

1736
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: This is topical, It's connected. But keep it going, Luke, okay,

1737
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: because you have you have what they call salty ash.

1738
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 2: Luke Okay, you.

1739
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

1740
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you just want to do a show forever,

1741
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 2: like you.

1742
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: Know, the question is how'll that sal get in there?

1743
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1744
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 2: Luke?

1745
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: Okay, here you go there it.

1746
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: Is sauce, hot sauce, all right.

1747
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

1748
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 2: Dana White provides an update on UFC Africa. Why they

1749
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 2: call it UFC Africa. It's like because a fucking continent

1750
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 2: is there, a UFC Europe but whatever, not as an

1751
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: event obviously, as an idea or a company. H Dana

1752
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: a UFC two seventy nine, talking about it. Quote, we

1753
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 2: literally were just having a meeting the other day and

1754
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: we're seriously talking about Africa. Now we're starting to look

1755
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 2: at venues and cities to hold an events. So Africa

1756
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 2: is gonna happen very soon, yes, but what part South Africa,

1757
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: sub Saharan, the Arab North? Like, what part is it

1758
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 2: going to be.

1759
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: In Shasha zaiir Luke? How about that? Look if there

1760
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: was Look, no, nothing will be bigger than Ali Foreman, right,

1761
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: you know in in the U in zay are there.

1762
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 1: But if you had to concoct a UFC fight, given

1763
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: that you've got three prominent names that were born in

1764
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: Africa and all that, but you wanted to have a

1765
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: fight that would, like on paper so potentially legendary that

1766
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 1: it would give you poor poor man's rumble in the

1767
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: jungle feels. Would you do in Ghanu versus John Jones

1768
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: for the title as that fight to headline UFC Africa.

1769
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could, but they'd probably put us and put

1770
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 2: it in some place like Johannesburg, which would be like

1771
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 2: technically Africa, but a related part in that sense.

1772
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: Hakeem Dermish, our colleague at CBS. Look, he's from Libya.

1773
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to see his home Nation get get a

1774
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: big opportunity here.

1775
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm not sure if that's coming anytime soon. Okay,

1776
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 2: we'll have to see if you're if you're easy to

1777
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: make laugh, this will be something that you care about.

1778
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 2: Has Bola has apparently inked to five year contract with

1779
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,560
Speaker 2: the UFC to promote events from Igor lazorin who I

1780
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 2: guess related to him.

1781
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: I didn't read this in the rundown. I must have

1782
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: missed this part of the run.

1783
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure you did. Hesbola has currently signed a

1784
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 2: five year contract with the UFC. So far in the

1785
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 2: plan attending tournament tournaments, mediac to tournaments. Are we sure

1786
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: this is real? We will not talk about the amounts

1787
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 2: in detail, but they are such that many fighters do

1788
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 2: not get that much. Wow? Is this real? This isn't

1789
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: a fake news?

1790
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: Here a direct response to PFL flying Tiger King to

1791
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 1: Europe for all those fights, Luke a smart cage of

1792
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: realized it's not a good investment.

1793
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 2: Tiger King's in fucking jail.

1794
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: Who'd I say, liver King?

1795
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 2: That's what I say, liver King? Yeah? Who did I

1796
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: say Tiger King?

1797
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: Tiger King? Oh yeah, that's Joe, that's uh yeah, yeah,

1798
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: I still follow him on I g Luke ty shout

1799
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 1: out to the Tiger King. Uh yeah, Luke, if it's true,

1800
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: it's it's not a it's not a not smart move.

1801
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke, he's got cachet in this industry. He's

1802
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: feuding with fighters.

1803
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 2: I think he's got five years left of.

1804
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: Okay, five years is asking a lot, like he might

1805
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: die of that. I do think that, Like when he's

1806
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 1: cage sided, Luke, Yeah, kind of like I don't hate it,

1807
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, Luke, And he's like,

1808
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: he's many me. He's like central casting for Dana White

1809
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: to have like a sidekick mini me who won't take

1810
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: his shit or punch him in the balls. They should

1811
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: get a reality series, actually, Luca.

1812
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 2: Put this is just for like people who don't want

1813
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: to admit that they still find like little people stuff funny.

1814
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: Look, I guarantee you Hospitla would get away with it.

1815
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 2: I guarantee because Hospitula is in on it, and he

1816
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: just acts like a jerk to everyone. Everyone's like, yeah,

1817
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 2: this is funny, but it's not that funny.

1818
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 1: Him and Dana in the reality show go to the

1819
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 1: Why am I Bay Luke, You'll find out who the

1820
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: real man is in there.

1821
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I bet I bet Hosbulla jumps. I bet he jumps.

1822
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 2: All right, we got a fight here. Book for beltor

1823
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 2: to eighty nine. Liz Carmusch will take on Juliana Velaskaz

1824
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 2: in a title rematch, which, by the way, is the

1825
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 2: right fight to make because Velaska has got stopped. But

1826
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 2: to me, it was way too early ref intervention.

1827
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean, is it rude for me to say I

1828
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: don't recognize this title reign until I see her actually

1829
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: beat her because of the way that was stopped in

1830
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 1: the situation.

1831
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 2: I completely agree. It's no, it's no disrespect to Liz

1832
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 2: carmush it's the right side. It's not her fault. She

1833
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong. And by the way, she was

1834
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,560
Speaker 2: winning in that moment and had some good moments in

1835
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 2: the fight. But way too early, way too early, all right?

1836
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: Also, yeah, go ahead, No, you nailed it, Luke, Keep

1837
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: nailing right.

1838
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 2: Seawn strickl and Jared Kennon Here was supposed to happen

1839
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: then because but then his finger got infected, so they

1840
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 2: had to rebook it. This will be on the UFC fight,

1841
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 2: not on December seventeenth. So they are going to fight

1842
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: the two guys who fought at UFC two seventy six

1843
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: and then lost. I believe, I think that's what it was.

1844
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 2: And then subsequent to that, here we are all right

1845
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 2: BC top of number five. We wrap up on this

1846
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 2: some boxing quick hitters. This one was a surprise to me.

1847
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I didn't really didn't really blow

1848
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 2: my skirt up. Go it.

1849
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about on the show when it was

1850
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: being rumored.

1851
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Luke, Okay, but it's Lemma check go versus

1852
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 2: Jamaina Ortiz sit for October twenty ninth, same day as

1853
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: Jake Paul and Anderson Silva. This will be a twelve

1854
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 2: run main event at the Hulu Theater in Masson Square Garden.

1855
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 2: I don't really care about this fight, b see, Am

1856
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 2: I wrong?

1857
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: Yes and no. So the reality is considering he's been

1858
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: off for a year and he's been actually in wartime,

1859
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: him coming back against an unbeaten guy who retired former

1860
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: champion Jamel Herring in his last fight. The fight before that, Luke,

1861
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: he headlined showboxing. He looked spectacular, So it's not that

1862
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: Jamayn Nortiz wouldn't isn't at this level where he would

1863
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: deserve a comebacking fight where Loma Lomachiko's trying to like,

1864
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, shake off the rust and then get back

1865
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: in a big title fight. It's just surprising because Lomachenko

1866
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: he doesn't do stuff like this. He's always look he's

1867
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 1: so willing to fight the best available or remember the story,

1868
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: he wanted to fight for a title in his pro debut,

1869
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: but no promoter could secure it, so he went with

1870
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: Bob Aaron because Bob said, I'll do it in your

1871
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: second fight, which he lost, kind of got screwed, comes back,

1872
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: wins the title in his third fight. Then suddenly he's

1873
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: like a three division champion through twelve fights. He doesn't

1874
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: do stuff like this. Jermayn Nortiz is a hungry young fighter.

1875
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: I've called this fights. He's good. But here's two parts

1876
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't like about this. Luke Jermainotiz get did get

1877
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: dropped twice by Joseph Adorno in a draw in Showbox

1878
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: last year and number two of the these two were

1879
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: sparring partners like a year and a half ago. So

1880
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: doesn't it just optically doesn't it feel like Loma's purposely

1881
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 1: going a little bit softer than normal. Even though I'm

1882
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 1: not trying to say he doesn't deserve that, I'm saying

1883
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: that's not who he normally is, right.

1884
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I think that's fair. It's just

1885
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm not even bashing Limachenko. I don't know what was available.

1886
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 2: He wants to stay active. I'm not mad at that.

1887
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 2: I just don't find it a very compelling fight.

1888
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but you know, Lomachenko fighting anyone.

1889
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 1: Luke still Musty TV still me.

1890
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And again they're not putting it at

1891
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 2: the big MSc. It's just the Hulu theater. I'm sure

1892
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna air on ESPN regular, so no big deal.

1893
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: Devin Haney, by the way, ABC has called for a

1894
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 2: fight against Tank Davis. He told The Boxing Voice quote

1895
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 2: the fight has been built up for years. At the

1896
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 2: end of the day, if he wants to fight, he

1897
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,520
Speaker 2: can have the fight. He's been the WBA fake Champion,

1898
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: he has the Mickey Mouse belt. If he wanted to

1899
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 2: become my mandator, he can become my mandatory. All you

1900
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 2: gotta do is go hit Hilberto and tell him, hey,

1901
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 2: we want to make this fight happen. He could become

1902
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 2: the mandatory whenever he wants. I mean, it all starts

1903
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 2: with George and how that plays out. But obviously, if

1904
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 2: it makes sense, then that's the much bigger fight than

1905
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 2: that's the fight we would really be focused on. But

1906
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 2: right now, George is the guy. We can't look past him.

1907
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: Interested in a Devin Haney versus Tank David I would

1908
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 2: say of Ryan Garcia, I'm more interested in seeing, but

1909
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 2: Devin Haney right behind him.

1910
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 1: Well, look, if Devin Haney has all four lightweight world titles,

1911
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: which he does right now, and that's you know, at

1912
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: stake in this, you might you might even put that

1913
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: right now at the top thought. Look, I want to

1914
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: see Tank versus Ryan Garcia. There's so much star power,

1915
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: so much unknown vulnerability, all that. Like anybody, this is

1916
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 1: actually a better fight and probably the fight until Shaker

1917
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: Stevenson formally moves up to one thirty five that will

1918
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: decide who's the best fighter at this weight class. Because

1919
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: Tail Femo's out Ryan Garcia, we have more questions than

1920
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: we do these other guys. I'm happy that they're just

1921
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: talking about it, Luke, because we know Hanni has to

1922
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: get through with that mandatory rematch with Cambos This which

1923
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: is looking like a money grab at this point. I

1924
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: hope Cambos's fights a different style and goes for it.

1925
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: But I think it, Luke, if Haney wins, and if

1926
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: Tank fights whoever he is hoping to fight in December,

1927
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:05,879
Speaker 1: I love, love it, love it to be Ryan Garcia

1928
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: these two next year, for all four belts, regardless of

1929
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 1: what promoter and network they're with, It's got to happen.

1930
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I want all these guys to talk about

1931
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 1: each other, because let's be the new era that all

1932
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: fights each other, regardless of the system behind us. Luke,

1933
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: let's be that guy. Okay, I think we got a

1934
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: few of that guy right now, and I want to

1935
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: see them mashed up together.

1936
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 2: All right, and then last but not least, we see

1937
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: how much do you care? Mayweather has reportedly been in

1938
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 2: talks to fight KSI's brother on November thirteenth. I just

1939
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 2: don't give a shit.

1940
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: Is it on a helipad and I don't know, Luke,

1941
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: you know it is.

1942
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 2: By the way, the staff is telling us that it's

1943
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,759
Speaker 2: real that has Bulla has signed a deal with UFC,

1944
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 2: So God bless him. He's gonna make money and if

1945
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 2: you're a cheap laugh, you're gonna continue to do what

1946
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 2: you do.

1947
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's smart cage is actually a UFC

1948
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: spy operative underneath Luke, like it's been programmed to sort

1949
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: of like so anything they're talking about in the You know,

1950
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: Dana's like the liver King, but Hasbula. We need it.

1951
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: We gotta get him the smart cage.

1952
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 2: At that's smart. He can't like double their ratings, which

1953
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 2: they could really use, you know what I mean, Like.

1954
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they both both promotions fight on ESPN. I

1955
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 1: wonder if it's like the same like hourly Union rig

1956
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 1: guy that Dana called in the office, gave him a

1957
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 1: milk boy's bag and then was like, program that's smart

1958
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 1: cage to air all audio live in my office.

1959
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 2: It's possible, unlikely, but certainly possible.

1960
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1961
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 2: That's it for us on this one. Although BC, you

1962
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 2: got to remind folks we have more bills to pay.

1963
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 2: We want to turn back the CLOCKBC. For some it's vanity,

1964
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: others just to relive relive those glory days. For me,

1965
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 2: I would love to wake up every morning with zero

1966
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: brain fog, a clear mind and be as as energized

1967
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: as when I was younger, and thanks to First Person,

1968
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 2: I could take a more active role in my brain's

1969
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Speaker 2: overall health.

1970
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a big First Person fan here, Luke. It's

1971
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Speaker 1: an innovative, precision targeted cognitive supplement system which uses the

1972
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Speaker 1: brain boosting medicinal benefits of mushrooms. Yes, those to activate

1973
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: the full potential of human cognition and brain health. And Luke,

1974
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 1: you know how much psychedelics are now being used for

1975
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: medicine in this era x fighters, I mean, this is

1976
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: the direction we're going to health.

1977
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:11,719
Speaker 3: Luke.

1978
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 2: I've never taken this, but apparently First Person supplements made

1979
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 2: with functional mushrooms aim to stimulate the body's natural production

1980
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 2: of specific neurotransmitters that trigger activities like energy, mood, and

1981
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: my favorite sleep.

1982
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and First Person uses one hundred percent grain free

1983
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Speaker 1: organic mushrooms as well as highly highly curated blend of

1984
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Speaker 1: neutraceuticals sourced from the best in class vendors.

1985
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 2: This is what it tells me. I personally like the

1986
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 2: Sunbeam supplement. I've never had it to help with motivation

1987
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 2: and focus. I have found myself to be much more

1988
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 2: productive on this thing. I've never had and able to

1989
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 2: stay focused throughout a long day.

1990
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Speaker 1: Well, I have had it, and I can stand by it, Luke,

1991
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Speaker 1: and you too, MK viewer can start improving your brain

1992
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1999
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Speaker 2: All right, BC, we have much more show to do.

2000
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: It's a long one today, so let's get to it.

2001
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 2: We're gonna do again what we like doing these before

2002
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 2: it got some traction. We're gonna try it again. Let's

2003
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 2: go to our top five segment. This time we're gonna

2004
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: do top five favorite MMA fights. Now, let's be clear

2005
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 2: about this. We see if I'm getting any of this wrong,

2006
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 2: tell me if I'm getting it wrong. Five top five.

2007
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 2: These are just the five that either you like the

2008
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 2: most for your own reasons or I like the most

2009
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 2: for my own reasons. These are not the five biggest.

2010
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 2: These are not even me necessarily saying that they're the

2011
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 2: five best. Like, if I had to rank the very

2012
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 2: best fights, where would I put these? These are just

2013
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 2: the ones that I like a lot, have sentimental value,

2014
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 2: rewatch value, just the ones that you really really like.

2015
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: Thank you for nailing that, because you and I didn't

2016
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: get into a long argument about this yesterday for nothing, Luke.

2017
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 1: I like to avoid the viewers not really having a clue.

2018
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 2: Of what we're writing.

2019
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,599
Speaker 1: Oh you guys think that's the best fight of all time.

2020
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 2: No, see, here's what happened. You did the topic that

2021
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 2: I had suggested, and then you play this weird game

2022
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 2: like you don't you pretend to not get it as

2023
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 2: like a result, I.

2024
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 1: Don't tend to not get it, Luke, I'm eliminating all questions.

2025
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 2: Dude, you're full of shit. But it's okay, we moved

2026
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 2: to one you.

2027
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 3: Like, Luke.

2028
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: It prevents situations like it going on social with the

2029
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 1: wrong heading and then people are going, oh my god,

2030
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: that was your favorite structure would have been great twenty twelve.

2031
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: It's like, well, this is the fucking list bro so social.

2032
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 1: That okay, But that's why I put in these safeguards, Luke.

2033
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,560
Speaker 1: All right, I mean you were in the military, you

2034
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: know a lot of standard operating.

2035
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 2: I think you just pretend to not understand so you

2036
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 2: could do a different.

2037
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 1: One, which no one. I want to do the best

2038
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: show possible, and you're just like, you know, I only

2039
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: work Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

2040
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that is so not what happened, all right.

2041
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 1: But Luke is right, these are.

2042
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 2: First, all right?

2043
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 1: Number five. You can argue, Luke that I would fill

2044
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: my list with women's strawweights, but number five is my

2045
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 1: favorite women's strawweight fight of all time, with much love

2046
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 1: and respect to the Jouana Wailey Jong all time great brawl.

2047
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: My number five took place at UFC two twenty three

2048
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,799
Speaker 1: April of twenty eighteen. You can see the damn poster

2049
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: behind me, and this may surprise you. It was the

2050
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 1: five round title rematch for the one hundred and fifteen

2051
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: belt between Yoanna Young Jjek, the former champion, and Rose

2052
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: Nama Yunis making the first title defense. This was high

2053
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: speed chess at its finest. And I don't think people

2054
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,559
Speaker 1: recognize this fight enough in the in this you know,

2055
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: modern era of the best fights. No, it's not gonna

2056
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 1: end up being in that top five because it's not

2057
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 1: this back and forth all time great brawl, but in

2058
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: terms of a high stakes technical masterpiece, I love the

2059
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: fight that they showed. Why because in the first fight

2060
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: we got surprised when Yanni Young j was knocked down

2061
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 1: with the first strike that she that she faced and

2062
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: knocked out. Shortly after that, there was a lot of

2063
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 1: talk about the bad weight cut and the turmoil in

2064
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 1: her personal life and her camp that led into her

2065
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 1: camp before that. But if she was gonna be the

2066
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 1: boogey woman, if Yoanna was gonna be the all time

2067
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 1: great that she is today, she was gonna have to

2068
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 1: man up, woman up, excuse me, and come back and

2069
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: show us longevity along game plan and something different. And

2070
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: the way that she responded to this version of Rose

2071
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 1: who is you know, it may not be first round

2072
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 1: against andrage version of Rose, but it's as good as

2073
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 1: you'll find in her great career. They meshed so perfectly

2074
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: in ways we didn't find out in the first fight

2075
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 1: because of the all action ending in round one and

2076
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: that perfect mixture of skill, precision, adaptability, you know, high pace.

2077
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 1: I know this gets lost in the Habib Dolly situation,

2078
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: and I got a great you know, Max Holloway poster

2079
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 1: here and it became Ali Aquinta in the end. But

2080
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 1: this fight could have Maine evented rose Yo wanta to

2081
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: and save that card, and to me it did in

2082
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,679
Speaker 1: fact at the end of the day, Luke, I love

2083
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 1: this fight. It's very rewatchable and it's my favorite division.

2084
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 1: The two greatest fighters have ever had at their very

2085
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 1: peak against one another.

2086
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 2: Dig It, I'm glad you put that on there. I

2087
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 2: struggled about whether I was gonna put that on there

2088
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 2: or not. Again, these are my favorite here, not me

2089
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 2: saying the very best, just the ones I like the most,

2090
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:23,560
Speaker 2: I had the most fun with. I think about often impactful.

2091
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 2: So for number five, I'm gonna go Dan Henderson versus

2092
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 2: Shogun WHU a UFC one thirty nine. This was a fight.

2093
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 2: I remember when they booked this fight. I remember thinking

2094
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 2: to myself, BC, I'm like, I'm not really sure how

2095
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 2: this is gonna go. Dan Henderson had the H bomb.

2096
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 2: You know, Shogun was battle tested. But even back then,

2097
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 2: this was all the way in twenty eleven, we were wondering, like,

2098
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, he looks like a little weather.

2099
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 2: He looked weather from the moment he went over to

2100
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 2: the UFC to begin with, and then of course he

2101
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 2: had the force Griffin loss. He redeemed himself later, but

2102
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 2: you get the idea like he was not the same

2103
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 2: as the guy who had fought in Pride, And sure enough,

2104
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 2: Dan Henderson goes in there and blows the fucking doors

2105
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:00,759
Speaker 2: off of him for three rounds. I couldn't believe Shogun

2106
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 2: Hua managed to hang on. I couldn't believe the fight

2107
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 2: got there. And then in the fourth round Shogun Hua

2108
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 2: does what can only be described as something bordering on

2109
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 2: impossible and then returns the favor for two more rounds,

2110
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 2: achieving mount where he is pounding on Dan Henderson high

2111
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 2: end mount. Somehow it goes all the way to a

2112
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 2: decision and Dan Henderson gets his hand raise. I thought

2113
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 2: fairly he had done more through the first three. But

2114
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 2: if you want to look at like two at the time,

2115
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,799
Speaker 2: they weren't super old, but there were, you know, veterans

2116
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 2: in the fight game, to be very clear, beat the

2117
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 2: living shit out of each other in ways you can't

2118
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 2: believe that one guy hangs on only for the tie

2119
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 2: to completely turn the other direction. This is one of

2120
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 2: the most underrated brawls in UFC history. It doesn't get

2121
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 2: labeled that way, but it really should. It doesn't get

2122
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 2: that way because he was Henderson and Shoguns, these guys

2123
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 2: who were various champions and the most important you know,

2124
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 2: organizations in that time through Pride and Strike Force and

2125
01:35:54,640 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 2: everything else. UFC for Shogun, super super sick fight that

2126
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: at least in terms of entertainment value, BC holds up.

2127
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 2: And I also think Shogun Hula I didn't even think

2128
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 2: at this time had this kind of resiliency in him

2129
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 2: to take the h bomb in the way that he did,

2130
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 2: and he did, and then to turn it around Shogun

2131
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 2: who in a losing effort, This is one of the

2132
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,759
Speaker 2: most impressive performances you'll ever see in a losing effort,

2133
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 2: if for no other reason than unbelievable resiliency from both the.

2134
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 1: Fact that he was still Shogun was still fighting killers

2135
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 1: just like you know six months ago. Is crazy. But Luke,

2136
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 1: it's I think there's about three or four, maybe five

2137
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:34,879
Speaker 1: at the most where if someone if you ask somebody

2138
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 1: what's the best fight in UFC history or I'm in

2139
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 1: May history and they said that fight, you wouldn't have

2140
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 1: an argument, You wouldn't have a snarky response this is

2141
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: on that list, and if you have this as your

2142
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: number one, like, you might be right. You might be right.

2143
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 1: It might be it. Look, it's it. I think it

2144
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 1: might be the most brutal fight. You know what I

2145
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: mean in terms of total accumulation of damage by I

2146
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: mean the.

2147
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Amount of I'm being dead serious, like, the amount of

2148
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 2: brain damage that these two took in this fight is

2149
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:58,600
Speaker 2: probably not great.

2150
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's got raw Lawler levels of just

2151
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 1: brutality where you're like, damn. But you know, I'd love

2152
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 1: to say it took you know, the rest of their

2153
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 1: careers off of them. But both went on to author

2154
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, not action fights better than this, but a

2155
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 1: ton more action fights because they're soup subhuman, you know,

2156
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 1: robots that are just I mean, these are these are

2157
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 1: this is probably I'll close with this the manliest fight,

2158
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: meaning man versus man, big reputation, and then they both

2159
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 1: leaned on every ounce of that man in them to

2160
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 1: get to the finish line. It's raining men that night. Luke, hallelujah.

2161
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 2: All right, what do you got for number four?

2162
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 3: Good?

2163
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 1: Bad sell job? All right, Luke, let's go to number four.

2164
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: You and I have praised this up before when it

2165
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 1: came under the Nick Diaz resume review. Why do I

2166
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 1: want to be at least part time member of the

2167
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 1: Nick Diaz army and love and appreciate what they do

2168
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 1: for fights like this UFC forty nine, August of two

2169
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 1: thousand and four. Carro Parisian verse is Nick Diaz luke

2170
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 1: to me? There are different kinds of fights that are great, right,

2171
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: there's high speed chess, technical fights, there's all out wars.

2172
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 1: But this is my favorite fight from the old UFC,

2173
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 1: the one that was finally you know, getting traction and

2174
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: eventually through Forest Griffin and Steve Stefan Bonner one and

2175
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 1: all that they really started gain traction. But that era

2176
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 1: of UFC were they were still street fights. The difference

2177
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 1: was you had what was becoming a generation of skilled

2178
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: street fighters, but at the end of the day, even

2179
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: if you're a technician, you still had a fight through

2180
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 1: shit to win those fights. Carra Parisian and Nick Diaz

2181
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,400
Speaker 1: where both have action fights that may all you know,

2182
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: go all time as better, including Paul Dailey against Nick

2183
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 1: Diez and Strikeforce. But this fight, when they matched up,

2184
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: I caught it at the right time. In a lot

2185
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 1: of ways, this fight reinvigorated my love for UFC because

2186
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 1: I had fallen off, you know, came on early like

2187
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 1: everybody else on pay per view when it was Faces

2188
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: of Death, and then slid off a little bit in

2189
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 1: those wing years when it wasn't even on TV. This

2190
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 1: was a I remember what it felt like, I remember

2191
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 1: what I was, you know, where I was sitting and

2192
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: all that, because it was gripping, dynamic television. Because even

2193
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 1: though they're skilled, and even though both made adjustments and

2194
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 1: they had to be bone tough to get there and

2195
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 1: they were what a just classic fight. If I'm going

2196
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 1: to UFC fight pass, which I often do when i'm

2197
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 1: you know, killing time in row eight, Luke, I've watched

2198
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 1: this fight, without question, more than any other over and

2199
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 1: over again. I love it, and I know you do too.

2200
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, none of your choices I hate. I liked all

2201
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 2: of them. I think all of them are great. For

2202
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 2: number four for me, I'm going to go with the

2203
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:44,639
Speaker 2: very last fight in WEC history, Benson Henderson versus Anthony Pettis,

2204
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 2: WEC fifty one. This was in December of twenty ten.

2205
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,920
Speaker 2: There's actually a lot of controlling grappling in this fight.

2206
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,719
Speaker 2: If you look at the stats, particularly for the second

2207
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 2: and through the fourth rounds, there's not a lot of strikestone.

2208
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot of control time that was a mass

2209
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 2: either against in the clinch or someone having a dominant

2210
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 2: grappling position. Benson Henderson getting a lot of takedowns in

2211
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 2: the first round, but the fight kind of began. The

2212
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 2: tension certainly began to escalate over the course of this fight,

2213
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 2: and the reason why it was important is because he

2214
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 2: was really a dynamic contest throughout. But this is the

2215
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 2: famous Showtime kickfight. We're in the fifth round of the

2216
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 2: last WEC fight, in the last WEC event. This is it.

2217
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 2: This is the last moment, and the words of Stephan Bonner,

2218
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 2: Anthony Pettis ran off the wall like a ninja, kicked

2219
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 2: Benson Henderson in the face, dropped him, and then proceeded

2220
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 2: to ebb you know, put an exclamation point on the

2221
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 2: fight and get the win. Stuffing enough takedowns where he

2222
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 2: didn't lose the contest, not giving up enough grappling positions

2223
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 2: to lose. Benson Henderson doing his kind of thing where

2224
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 2: he's you know, gas pedal to the floor the entire time. Again,

2225
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 2: this is before these guys ever even got to the UFC.

2226
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 2: They put on a fucking masterpiece of a closing show.

2227
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 2: You could argue about whether it's not it's the best

2228
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 2: WEC fight. There are some other ones you could have

2229
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 2: picked along the way. Miguel Torres versus to Kaya Mizugaki's

2230
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 2: a good one here, amidst some more versus Carlos kan

2231
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 2: It's another one. Hell, you could even do some of

2232
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 2: the Varner fights that were pretty great along the way

2233
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 2: as well. But to me, this is one of the

2234
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 2: best and most important WC fights. And and with the

2235
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,600
Speaker 2: WEC represented at the time was yes, it had the

2236
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 2: one thirty five ers and the one to forty five

2237
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 2: vers which w which UFC did not. So they had

2238
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 2: this WEC lightweight division for a time. They had middleweight

2239
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 2: and light heavyweight two and they welterweight. They had some

2240
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,680
Speaker 2: other guys shouts to Steve the Robot can't well, But

2241
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 2: in terms of that one fifty five and below, what

2242
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 2: they had was just an excitement factor. You felt like,

2243
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 2: if I tune into UFC lightweights, I'll get some good fights.

2244
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 2: I might get some great ones. If I tune into

2245
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 2: WEC fights, am I gonna get just action and you know,

2246
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 2: just guaranteed excitement. That's what WEC felt like at the time.

2247
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 2: And for these two guys to do what they do

2248
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 2: with that punctuating moment at the end with the showtime kick,

2249
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 2: it just goes down in one of my minds as

2250
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 2: like a fight I can rewatch all the time. I

2251
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 2: love this contest.

2252
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 1: I love the way you played up the legacy of

2253
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: WC because, like at that time when it was vying

2254
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 1: for your attention, I remember it feeling like ECW felt

2255
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 1: when we were watching wrestling in the nineties and you're like,

2256
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is just different, Like it's just

2257
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 1: everything about that. So for this fight to be the

2258
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 1: final fight in that promotion's history and to live up

2259
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 1: to it and then deliver that moment Luke, I remember.

2260
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 2: Thinking like, damn, like that, sorry put the camera on.

2261
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 1: That was a absolute perfect storm, the Henderson Pettis fight

2262
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:30,919
Speaker 1: of everything that was great about WEC, but then shooting

2263
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 1: it forward because you knew these guys were going to

2264
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,280
Speaker 1: the UFC the next day. I think like the fourth

2265
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 1: Marquez and Paccio fight, because that right hand Marquez delivered

2266
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 1: to knock pack yall out cold, sort seems to overtake

2267
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 1: the fact that that fight is, you know, maybe maybe

2268
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: the best fight since Corrals because still won, right, like

2269
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: just insane. I think this fight too, Henderson Pettis never

2270
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 1: gets the you know, it was back and forth and

2271
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 1: strategic changes. It never gets the respect because the moment

2272
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:59,679
Speaker 1: of this, of the showtime kick was so insane. And Luke,

2273
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: that was like I remember sitting in the basement newsroom

2274
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:07,000
Speaker 1: at ESPN watching that as it happened, and like WEC

2275
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 1: already felt like a video game, so like you know

2276
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:12,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it just felt was like ridiculous,

2277
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 1: and then to have that moment was you you know,

2278
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:17,680
Speaker 1: your mind hadn't even thought of that in a real fight, right,

2279
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: It's like doing a and one basketball move, like you know,

2280
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: in the in the NBA Finals. I can't I still

2281
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,679
Speaker 1: can't believe it happened. It's one of those things.

2282
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 2: It was, Honestly, you could It's very hard to argue

2283
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 2: that they could have put another fight and gotten a

2284
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 2: better WEC send off. It was the perfect WEC sendoff,

2285
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:37,360
Speaker 2: all right, what you got for number three?

2286
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: Number three? Luke, I'm gonna put up here as one

2287
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 1: of the hardest fights to watch as it was happening

2288
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 1: because it was so brutal, but the batshit and craziness

2289
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 1: that Mark Hunt and Antonio Bigfoot Silva showed and the

2290
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 1: first of their heavyweight rivalry UFC fight night in Australia

2291
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 1: I think was Brisbane and it was December of twenty thirteen.

2292
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 1: I will never forget the way this fight made me feel.

2293
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 1: When you know, both were cut open, but they were

2294
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:08,799
Speaker 1: cut open on like nineteen eighties pro wrestling Rick Flair

2295
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: in Greenville, South Carolina with a razor blade. I mean,

2296
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 1: it was just ridiculous. At the end of round four,

2297
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 1: I did not believe that these two could produce more action,

2298
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 1: and I also did not believe that it would have

2299
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 1: been safe for them to even go out there and continue.

2300
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 1: It was the first fight I remember fearing like death

2301
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 1: as it was happening, and I hate that feeling. And

2302
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 1: I felt that feeling briefly in Jouanna and Wayey won,

2303
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 1: which not everybody felt but I was kside too. But

2304
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 1: they went out for the fifth round and it was

2305
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 1: crazy altogether. And to see this fight surprise. It's not

2306
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 1: that I didn't think this fight could end at a

2307
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: knockout right, it's Mark Hunt, right, it's big Foot Silva.

2308
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 1: But to see this fight be a sustained, batshit crazy,

2309
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 1: constant momentum changes, rolling over and one taking full mound

2310
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: and raining down punches near submission attempts. I never thought

2311
01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 1: these two could offer that over five rounds. I never

2312
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 1: thought that they could keep it going through round five.

2313
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: So to see that end in a majority draw, it

2314
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 1: was such a like a play on your emotions already

2315
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 1: that you're like, oh shit, it just accomplished nothing. They'll

2316
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,559
Speaker 1: get a rematch. We'll be excited about it to a

2317
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 1: certain degree, although I think Mark Hunt smoked him and

2318
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:18,839
Speaker 1: knocked him out early in the rematch. But Luke, please

2319
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 1: tell me that you were feeling some of what I

2320
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 1: was feeling. Maybe the blood made it seem worse than

2321
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 1: it was in the moment, which can happen. But in

2322
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 1: the moment, it felt like I was watching war play

2323
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 1: out on TV, and I was like screaming for a ceasefire.

2324
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 2: This is the first time I can remember I've ever

2325
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 2: done this. I've done it a couple times. I think

2326
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 2: I did this for like Lawler and McDonald. Two was

2327
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 2: when I had to watch through my fingers I was

2328
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 2: literally I could not believe the damage they were doing

2329
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 2: to each other. So I had to watch. I was like,

2330
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 2: oh my god, Oh my fucking god, how are they

2331
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 2: still doing this? I couldn't believe. This is why I

2332
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 2: was in Australia. I think you mentioned it. It was

2333
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 2: down under. It was I was shocked at what I

2334
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 2: was looking at.

2335
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:03,560
Speaker 4: You.

2336
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 2: When heavyweights hit each other this hard, it always the

2337
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 2: fight always gets stopped one way or the other, like

2338
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 2: there's just no way you can hit each other this hard,

2339
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 2: and the fight keeps going. And it did. It just

2340
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 2: kept going. An extraordinary amount of violence in this contest

2341
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 2: really in many ways, even you know, one of Bigfoot's

2342
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 2: better for all time performances, to be honest with you,

2343
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 2: losing or winning like this is he put up a

2344
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: phenomenal job in this contest, and Mark Hunt did the same.

2345
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:34,840
Speaker 2: An unforgettable fight is the way I would put it.

2346
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 2: Unforgettable shit, all right, with that in mind, my number three,

2347
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 2: speaking of Nick Diaz, I'm gonna go Nick Diaz versus

2348
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:48,160
Speaker 2: Takani Gomi Pride thirty three. This was on I think

2349
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 2: in February of two thousand and seven. Let me explain

2350
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 2: the circumstance of this one. This is the famous go

2351
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,920
Speaker 2: go plata that Nick Diaz hit, But there's more to

2352
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 2: the story. You have to understand where they were or

2353
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 2: when they fought Takenory Gomey had a couple of losses

2354
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 2: in SHOOTEAU, but that was long since forgotten. He was

2355
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 2: widely considered to be the best lightweight in the world.

2356
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 2: He had lost to Marcus Aurelio in a non title

2357
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 2: contest because Pride had done that, but he got his

2358
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 2: title back or he got he got the win back later.

2359
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 2: He had never lost the title right, so there was

2360
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:20,559
Speaker 2: all of that. So he was basically in this position

2361
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 2: where he was the guy in this weight class. Nick Diaz,

2362
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 2: by contrast, was well respected but was in a very

2363
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 2: different spot. Nick Diaz had lost to Diego Sanchez, he

2364
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,559
Speaker 2: had lost to Joe Riggs, he had lost to Sean Shirk,

2365
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 2: he was bounced from UFC he had fought previously. Then

2366
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 2: he came back and he beat Joshnaire and he beat

2367
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,320
Speaker 2: Gleason Tebow and those were nice wins. But I think

2368
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 2: the tea Bow win at UFC sixty five was on

2369
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 2: the preliminary card. Yes it was. It was the headlining

2370
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 2: bout of the preliminary card. So then he goes into

2371
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 2: there and then takes on Tackanory Gomy. He leaves the

2372
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 2: UFC again, it goes and takes on Tackanory Gomi and

2373
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 2: Gome Again. We're talking about a guy who could not

2374
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 2: have been more highly regarded at the time. He's taking

2375
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 2: Diaz down. But Diaz is going to work in the

2376
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 2: boxing in the first round, but he gets hit. You know,

2377
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 2: I think he had to get fourteen stitches on that

2378
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:07,640
Speaker 2: massive cut over his And in the second round he

2379
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 2: goes in there and begins to go to fucking work

2380
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 2: on Gomi, and the crowd is on their goddamn feet.

2381
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 2: He eventually gets into the scenario where he was able

2382
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 2: to apply the go go plaza, which I mean, dude,

2383
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 2: this is the closest thing Nick has to Nate beating Connor.

2384
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 2: It's not the same for a lot of different reasons.

2385
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 2: Nate was on last minute notice, and there's a whole

2386
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 2: there was a he had to go up away class

2387
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 2: and all this bullshit. But in terms of a Diaz

2388
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:36,520
Speaker 2: brother taking on a fight that you know, his supporters

2389
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:38,719
Speaker 2: believed he could do well in, but the vast majority

2390
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 2: of the public thought that I think Goomi was gonna

2391
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 2: win where this guy was like on a high couldn't

2392
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 2: have couldn't have been higher than what it was. And

2393
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 2: then to go in there and have the whole thing

2394
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 2: flipped upside down by Nick Diaz, and then to do

2395
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 2: it with like that special jiu jitsu flare that the

2396
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:59,599
Speaker 2: Dz brothers have shown. This was epic peak fucking Nick

2397
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 2: da Is, by the way, I think at lightweight for them,

2398
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 2: which was whatever have Pride had at the time, maybe

2399
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 2: one fifty five, I can't remember anymore, but you get

2400
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:11,560
Speaker 2: the idea. It was an unbelievable showcase. Remember this was

2401
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 2: probably trying to make their way into Las Vegas, so

2402
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 2: probably was trying to take over at the time, or

2403
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 2: at least, you know, make a push into the American market. Yes,

2404
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 2: it sucked that gonna be lost for them, but for

2405
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 2: Daz to just rise to the occasion in this way,

2406
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 2: after getting hurt, after getting controlled, after getting cut, it's

2407
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 2: just one of the most epic things you'll ever fucking see.

2408
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 2: And I don't know if a lot of folks really

2409
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 2: remember it, but I remember that fight very closely. An

2410
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 2: incredible dynamic win, one of Diaz's best and truly those

2411
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:44,639
Speaker 2: brothers boy, they got you send them your promotional darling.

2412
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 2: I mean maybe Hams I would have run them over,

2413
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:48,720
Speaker 2: but in general there's been times where you send those

2414
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 2: guys your promotional darling and the DZ brothers are gonna

2415
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 2: send them home in a fucking body bag. This is

2416
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:56,479
Speaker 2: a historic achievement for.

2417
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 1: Him or back then you send them your legends, like

2418
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, Frank Shamrock and just gonna dismantle and take

2419
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 1: him apart. But you know, we did talk about during

2420
01:50:03,880 --> 01:50:06,280
Speaker 1: that resume review as you mentioned how pivotal this was

2421
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 1: in Knick's career, and uh yeah, that was a joy

2422
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 1: to watch man. That was some intensity building up in

2423
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 1: that one. Look, I do have a lot of respect

2424
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 1: for your list.

2425
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 2: All right, all right, very good yours. But with that said, number.

2426
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 1: Two, number two is the greatest fight in bellatre history,

2427
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 1: like with a bullet, and I think it's a way

2428
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 1: better all time great modern action fight than it necessarily

2429
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 1: gets the respect it deserves. And that happened at Bellatour

2430
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: one oh six November of twenty thirteen, the rematch Eddie

2431
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 1: Alvarez versus defending lightweight champion Michael Chandler in some ways.

2432
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Eddie's fought everywhere all around the globe and

2433
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 1: has always been in great wars. But I always felt

2434
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 1: like this fight, in particular, coming off of how good

2435
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:50,680
Speaker 1: their first one was, really made both of them on

2436
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 1: a much broader level than you know, MMA undergrounds and well,

2437
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:58,920
Speaker 1: I love about this fight most. There's two reasons. One

2438
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 1: is the constant play on our emotions we call in

2439
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:05,759
Speaker 1: pro wrestling luke false finishes like why was Ricky Steamboat

2440
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 1: versus Randy Savage wrestlming You three so great because it

2441
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 1: was like an early, you know edition of like twenty

2442
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 1: one false finishes where you constantly think you know the

2443
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 1: outcome or where we're going, and then it gets pulled,

2444
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: the rug gets pulled out from under you. This one

2445
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 1: had batshit crazy, dramatic momentum changes where you look like

2446
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: somebody was two punches away and you know the damage

2447
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:28,640
Speaker 1: they each took, the times their lights got shut out

2448
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 1: only get turned right back on again, and they're they're

2449
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 1: in the middle of it. It's a you know, it's

2450
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 1: a credit to them being two of the greatest TV

2451
01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 1: action fighters of all time, but also being great fighters

2452
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 1: on top of that, But I just never thought heading

2453
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 1: into this that they could beat their first fight when

2454
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 1: Chandler scored a very late submission and it was such

2455
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 1: a great fight, and there was so much talk in

2456
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 1: the build up to the second one where they both

2457
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 1: went on runs of stopping people, particularly Eddie knocking out

2458
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:01,599
Speaker 1: Shinya Aoki in the first round and then head kicking

2459
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 1: Patric Patricky Pipple in the first round, and it was like,

2460
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: oh crap, they're going to line up again, and Chandler

2461
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 1: was blowing people away just the same. But I just

2462
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 1: didn't think they were going to be able to up

2463
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: what I saw on that first fight with the entertainment

2464
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 1: level and the show of heart. I mean, they did

2465
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 1: it for five rounds and it was a split decision

2466
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,799
Speaker 1: and Eddie got the nod, and I think in hindsight,

2467
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, you could have argued either way. I liked

2468
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 1: Eddie in real time, but you know, three four five

2469
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 1: fights you would take with you to a deserted island

2470
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:32,720
Speaker 1: and live alone for the rest of your day. I

2471
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:34,720
Speaker 1: think Eddie Alvarez and Michael Chandler Part two has to

2472
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 1: be on that list, because it was all that and

2473
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 1: then some. And I even wish Bellator did more of like, hey, guys,

2474
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 1: remember how awesome this fight was, and just put it

2475
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 1: out there more often because it's deserving and.

2476
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong. I remember this fight week.

2477
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 2: This was Eddie's last fight with Bellatore. Correct. He went

2478
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 2: on to UFC after this. Yes, I believe that's correct.

2479
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 2: We can double check. If I'm not. You can dead

2480
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 2: wrong me, But I believe that. I recall covering this

2481
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 2: fight week and mean.

2482
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 1: Thought Donald Coroni the year. Eleven months later, he fought

2483
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 1: Donald Serni to make his UFC debut.

2484
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, you double checked that, yep, I remember. I remember

2485
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 2: in this fight week. A big part of it was

2486
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 2: like is he going to stay? What's gonna happen with Bellatore?

2487
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 2: Did you like how you were treated by Bellatore? Like

2488
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 2: all that shit was a big part of it. Yeah.

2489
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 2: He beat Michael Jenny Wan to fight Don Serroni. This

2490
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 2: was it, This was his this was his last one,

2491
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 2: and they gave him the guy who had a previously

2492
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 2: beaten him, right, and then be the guy who was

2493
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 2: kind of like the guy at in Bellatore at the time,

2494
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:32,639
Speaker 2: at least, you know, Will Brooks was kind of floating

2495
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 2: around too, but you know it was their poster guy

2496
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:36,640
Speaker 2: for a time. Michael Janner was the poster guy for

2497
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 2: Bellator for a little while, and Dode, You're right, I

2498
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 2: agree with you. I'm glad you put this on the list.

2499
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 2: One of the forgotten fights of the oughts. That was

2500
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 2: fucking bananas. By the way, I believe that Chandler fighting

2501
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:52,560
Speaker 2: Alvarez the first time was the same day as Showgun

2502
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 2: versus Dan Henderson won, so kind of a little bit

2503
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 2: of a connection there.

2504
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 1: No remember I worked the ESPN newsroom that night and

2505
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 1: I was the MMA guy. Yeah, man, I remember that

2506
01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 1: exactly with like you know, split screens and two. It's

2507
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 1: rare one that happens that you get two no hitters

2508
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:08,960
Speaker 1: on the same night, you know what I mean, It's

2509
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 1: it's crazy.

2510
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 2: All right. So for my number two, I'm going to

2511
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 2: go all the way back to two thousand and six.

2512
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,599
Speaker 2: I remember exactly where I was when I watched this fight,

2513
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 2: Carl Parisian versus Diego Sanchez. This is just one of

2514
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 2: my my favorite fights in combat sports period. I've got

2515
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 2: some favorite boxing fights, even jiu jitsu matches that I

2516
01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 2: really kind of go back to and think about a

2517
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 2: little bit. Carl Parigian taken on Diego Sanchez is just

2518
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 2: it's it for me. I remember the lead up to

2519
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 2: this one, the odds were super close. They had Carl

2520
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 2: as a slight favor, But you gotta understand the reality here.

2521
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 2: Diego Sanchez had come off the Ultimate Fighter and was

2522
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 2: making a name for himself through the organization. He had

2523
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 2: beaten some good guys, but at the time there was

2524
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 2: you know, the the Brian Gastaways or whatever his name was,

2525
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 2: and I think he'd beaten even Joe Riggs for a time,

2526
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 2: but there was still questions like how good are the

2527
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 2: Ultimate Fighter guys? Are they really all that great? Carl

2528
01:54:57,280 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 2: was a guy who was sort of put in that

2529
01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 2: air of he's up there with the very best at welterweight.

2530
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 2: He kind of fallen short against Saint Pierre and some

2531
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 2: other guys, never got his Matt Hughes fight because it

2532
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 2: had fallen through, even though he had been set up

2533
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,520
Speaker 2: for a title shot due to injury. But he was

2534
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 2: that guy who you know, he was right there in

2535
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 2: that place, and Diego had I think undefeated at the time,

2536
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 2: rising through and they met and I was like, man,

2537
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 2: I did not know how this was going to go,

2538
01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 2: and I remember b seeing none of my friends watched MMA,

2539
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 2: so I went to a bar that is now defunct.

2540
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 2: He used to be in Clarendon, Virginia called Summers, famous

2541
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 2: sports bar in the area for a long time, and

2542
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 2: I think the pandemic finally took it under. But I

2543
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 2: watched by myself. I remember getting pictures of beer watching

2544
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 2: this fight by myself on Spike TV, and I was

2545
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 2: just blown away and overjoyed at everything. And one of

2546
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 2: the things I really love about this fight is it's

2547
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 2: fucking back and forth. I mean, Carl was throwing Diego

2548
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 2: all over this fucking octagon, but Diego sticking it out,

2549
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 2: finding ways to get the takedown, heavy ground and pound,

2550
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 2: pushing Carol back. You know, Carl doing everything he can

2551
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 2: to throw this guy off balance and to do what

2552
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 2: he can as well, but Diego just being a fucking

2553
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 2: dog when it matted between them. And the other part

2554
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,280
Speaker 2: I like about is sort of a historical note. Now

2555
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 2: in MMA, if a guy gets taken down but took

2556
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 2: a big judo throw and there's not a lot of

2557
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:11,840
Speaker 2: control through the process into the final establishment of the

2558
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 2: takedown on the mat, you'll see that right away. The

2559
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,000
Speaker 2: job is to get back up. People just want to

2560
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 2: get back up. But back in two thousand and six,

2561
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:20,320
Speaker 2: it wasn't really clear that was the best strategy. So

2562
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 2: what you see here a lot of times is a

2563
01:56:21,960 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 2: lot of guard play. They're not even trying to necessarily

2564
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 2: get back to their feet. Oh now we're on the ground. Okay,

2565
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 2: Well here's my jiu jitsu. And so you get a

2566
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 2: very different kind of fight than you would get today,

2567
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 2: and you know, you could say maybe worse or better,

2568
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 2: but it's fun to see some of those, like when

2569
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 2: people like really had to focus on their guard, how

2570
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 2: did their guard look? You get a lot of that here.

2571
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 2: This is a dynamic fight. This is thrilling. This is

2572
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 2: a moment of trying for Diego Sanchez in overcoming a

2573
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 2: lot of obstacles in reaching new heights. And it's just

2574
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 2: maybe it's maybe my favorite fight night fight ever in

2575
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:55,000
Speaker 2: the history of all the fight nights. I fucking love

2576
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 2: this contest.

2577
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 1: It's, by the way, not surprised that Nick Diaz is

2578
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 1: on this list twice and Nate could be on a

2579
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 1: million times, But not surprised that Carl Parigian is on

2580
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 1: you should be because we don't talk about him enough,

2581
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 1: but you look back at those, Dude, he had a

2582
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 1: handful of fights like this, Luke. What I love best

2583
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,320
Speaker 1: about Carl is he never respected his opponent, like it

2584
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 1: was just on him. It was dripping whether he's facing

2585
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 1: GSP or the d it's dripping on him that he

2586
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 1: has no respect and his defense could be lagged. So

2587
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 1: we always had a lean on his chin. But he

2588
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 1: had the dynamic judo, which back then was like a

2589
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:27,880
Speaker 1: superpower that he pull on pull these drag throws on people.

2590
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 1: That was ridiculous. But yeah, great to see him show

2591
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,240
Speaker 1: up here twice, Luke. I hated seeing the second and

2592
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 1: half of his career kind of fall apart because he

2593
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 1: was special.

2594
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 2: He faded, He faded fast, Yeah, really fast.

2595
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 1: He was bloated in Belatore for a while and it

2596
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 1: went bad, Luca, it was a bad ruck.

2597
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 2: But in his prime, dude, winter or Loo's fucking Carro

2598
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 2: was absolutely must sy.

2599
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 1: TV makes you proud to be Armenian, Luke, You know

2600
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 1: he does.

2601
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 2: He does make me.

2602
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 1: I am right, all right, Luke, my number one favorite

2603
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,680
Speaker 1: fighting mme history. You're not going to be surprised. I

2604
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:00,280
Speaker 1: don't really care if you don't love it as much

2605
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 1: as I do, because I was there. I felt it,

2606
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 1: I sniffed it, I drank it, I lived it. It

2607
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 1: was an interim middleweight title co main event at UFC

2608
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 1: two thirty six in Atlanta, April thirteenth, twenty nineteen. Shout out, Bogo,

2609
01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 1: that's your birthday. I know that this is one of

2610
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 1: the greatest fights in the modern era, and the intensity

2611
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 1: of this, along with Pourier Holloway that night also for

2612
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:29,880
Speaker 1: an interim belt that you know you could argue was

2613
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 1: just as good or and I don't think it'll ever

2614
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 1: get the recognition it deserves either, because it followed this fight.

2615
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 1: There was something in the air that night, and it

2616
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:39,960
Speaker 1: may have actually been Dana White floating interim titles on

2617
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 1: two fights that didn't need them. It didn't call for it,

2618
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 1: but it raised the stakes and the intensity. And I

2619
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: think Kelvin Gaslom gets much maligned because he's unable to

2620
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 1: keep it together on the elite level, kind of like

2621
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 1: Darren till Well, there's a lot of hiccups. This was

2622
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 1: the night, though, where Kelvin gaslam was as great as

2623
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 1: as he ever was an interim title at STEAK he

2624
01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:00,080
Speaker 1: was supposed to have fault Whitaker for the belt, but

2625
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 1: it fell apart last minute. This was sort of his

2626
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 1: prize for that and for Adasania at that point in

2627
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:08,960
Speaker 1: his rise, you know, beating Derek Brunton the way he

2628
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 1: did at MSG, we stepped up a notch in our

2629
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:14,480
Speaker 1: belief that he's going to monster places. But you're never

2630
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 1: gonna believe someone that's skilled is the guy until they

2631
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 1: have to prove it. And you only have to look

2632
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 1: further than the opening of the fifth round when Atasania

2633
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 1: looks across a gaslaman you know, lip synks and you

2634
01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 1: can kind of pick it up like I'm ready to

2635
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 1: die here. He crossed a barrier the hard way, the

2636
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 1: old school way to endure the damage in that fight

2637
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 1: and the back and forth momentum and you know he

2638
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 1: got dropped. I mean, that was a crazy fight. Maybe

2639
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 1: it will never equal the Hendo Showgun one type of

2640
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:47,840
Speaker 1: level of action fights, because you know, there was a

2641
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 1: good mixture of skill, but it's the very best of

2642
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:54,600
Speaker 1: two guys who refused to lose that night and just

2643
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 1: put on mayhem unscheduled mayhem in front of me, and

2644
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, in hindsight, Luke, it was also a pretty

2645
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 1: damn high skilled fight. The way that Gasolam set up

2646
02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:08,080
Speaker 1: his punches was look, that's the best of him. But

2647
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: I do look back and say Gasolam had a moment

2648
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 1: where he hurt out of Sonia late I think it

2649
02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:14,440
Speaker 1: was round four, and he shot in for a takedown

2650
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 1: that was unsuccessful and he kind of missed the moment.

2651
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:19,120
Speaker 1: They're momentum wise that I think is going to kick

2652
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:22,200
Speaker 1: him for a while. But this is just one of

2653
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:26,200
Speaker 1: those special nights where whatever that feeling was, that the

2654
02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 1: drug you know, made you feel you know you'll never

2655
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:31,680
Speaker 1: be the same, and you hope you can feel that

2656
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 1: way for the rest of your life. And I every

2657
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 1: time I interviewed out of Signy, by the way, I

2658
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 1: thank him for this fight, and not in like a

2659
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 1: weird you know self way or anything like. No, it's

2660
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:42,040
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for showing us what is inside

2661
02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 1: of you because you needed it that night and it

2662
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 1: was beautiful. And Luke, this is what it's all about

2663
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, not Twitter followers or

2664
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:51,160
Speaker 1: the money we make to be on TV or any

2665
02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 1: of this other MMA awards. It's the reason why we

2666
02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 1: want to do this for a living. Fights like this, Bro,

2667
02:00:57,280 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't think you felt what I felt, Luke, but

2668
02:00:59,320 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 1: you better damn tell me. It's one of the best

2669
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:01,480
Speaker 1: fights you've ever seen.

2670
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:04,480
Speaker 2: You better, you better, it's it's a phenomenal contest. Also,

2671
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:07,120
Speaker 2: let me ask you this, would you agree? Now, He's

2672
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:09,760
Speaker 2: had some great wins, but I got to tell you,

2673
02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:13,800
Speaker 2: in terms of the level of ability he showed, this

2674
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 2: is probably Gasolum's best fight. And I don't say that

2675
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:17,680
Speaker 2: all his best fight was one that he lost. I

2676
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:19,040
Speaker 2: don't even mean it that way. I actually mean it

2677
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 2: the opposite way. Like, dude, he gave it to Izzy

2678
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 2: that night, Like, don't you feel like Gaslum? Like the

2679
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:26,000
Speaker 2: level of like for example, And one thing I pointed

2680
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:27,880
Speaker 2: out was like the head movement in this fight. His

2681
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 2: head movement in this contest is better than any other

2682
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:30,800
Speaker 2: one he's ever had.

2683
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:32,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely the way he set up his shots, which is

2684
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 1: what I said, So yeah, to Eckle your point. I

2685
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:36,960
Speaker 1: had made that point twice during my long ramble. This

2686
02:01:37,040 --> 02:01:39,520
Speaker 1: is the best Gastom there ever was interim title at stake,

2687
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:42,200
Speaker 1: But he not only sold out in ways with his

2688
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:46,120
Speaker 1: chin that was ridiculous to your in my combined point, dude,

2689
02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:49,200
Speaker 1: there was the next level ability to get underneath Atisnia's

2690
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:53,800
Speaker 1: guard using daring, darting head movement in upper trunk movement

2691
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 1: that you just don't see him do today. Luke. He

2692
02:01:56,520 --> 02:02:00,240
Speaker 1: went all in because the task demanded it, and he

2693
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:03,680
Speaker 1: actually got inside on Alsagania and gave him a hell

2694
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:05,880
Speaker 1: of a trouble in terms of the two way striking.

2695
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 1: I mean, what a night, What a freaking night.

2696
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 2: That was an incredible night. And so again followed by

2697
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 2: Max Holloway taking on Dustin Party. They just fucking nuts

2698
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 2: that you were there in Atlanta. Pretty great night for me. Again,

2699
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:19,920
Speaker 2: it's by far not the best UFC fight, definitely not that,

2700
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:22,120
Speaker 2: not even the best UFC heavyweight fight, but for me

2701
02:02:22,200 --> 02:02:24,240
Speaker 2: the most. Let me explain something to you, guys know,

2702
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:26,000
Speaker 2: I don't care for pro wrestling. It's not for me.

2703
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 2: But the guy who has done and I've said before

2704
02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:31,520
Speaker 2: this first stage of my career more than anyone else

2705
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 2: was brock Lesnar. The brock Lesnar era I cannot describe

2706
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:37,360
Speaker 2: to you. He was a shot of adrenaline into mma

2707
02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:39,200
Speaker 2: is really the best way to put it. And when

2708
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:42,960
Speaker 2: he took on Shane carmon UFC one sixteen on January

2709
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 2: of twenty ten. I was just I could not wait

2710
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 2: for this contest. I remember BC literally hyperventilating when Shane

2711
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:53,160
Speaker 2: Carwin be cause here's what you knew, Like, Shane Carwin

2712
02:02:53,240 --> 02:02:54,920
Speaker 2: came out and you know what he was gonna do.

2713
02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:57,040
Speaker 2: He was going to lower the boom on anyone he fought.

2714
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 1: He say the run, Say the run that Shane Karlon

2715
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 1: was on a first round KOs over like legends, right,

2716
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean it was ridiculous.

2717
02:03:03,680 --> 02:03:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have it in front of me, but like,

2718
02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:06,840
Speaker 2: here's a great one for you. Here's a little piece

2719
02:03:06,840 --> 02:03:09,280
Speaker 2: of trivia for you if you want go watch a

2720
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:11,000
Speaker 2: Shane Carwin take on a guy by the name of

2721
02:03:11,080 --> 02:03:14,240
Speaker 2: Christian Welsh. Christian Welish was out of AKA. It was

2722
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:16,880
Speaker 2: a he was a good fighter. This was UFC eighty four.

2723
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 2: In fact, this was the Shane Carwin's debut. It only

2724
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:22,280
Speaker 2: lasts forty four seconds. He hits fucking Welish with a

2725
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:27,720
Speaker 2: punch that launches his mouthpiece into outer fucking space and

2726
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 2: just turns Welish's head in ways that like remember how

2727
02:03:30,760 --> 02:03:33,160
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson used to hit guys, and when

2728
02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 2: their hair would spin in like the opposite direction that

2729
02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:37,920
Speaker 2: their head was going, or like it would follow. That's

2730
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:39,800
Speaker 2: what you would see with with Shane Carwin. He was

2731
02:03:39,920 --> 02:03:43,200
Speaker 2: just fucking demolishing pete people. So he beats Christian Welsh, Neil,

2732
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 2: Wayne Gabriel Gonzaga, he knocks out in a minute nine seconds,

2733
02:03:46,400 --> 02:03:49,280
Speaker 2: Frank Mier, he beats in twenty ten and a UFC

2734
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 2: two eleven, and then falls it up with Brock Lesner,

2735
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 2: who he was giving an absolute fucking beating two. I

2736
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 2: could not sat. I make a joke about my wife.

2737
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 2: I one time I went to this massuse and it

2738
02:04:01,400 --> 02:04:03,840
Speaker 2: was this uh, it was this elderly Chinese lady. Bro

2739
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:07,160
Speaker 2: She gave me the old Shane Carwin fucking UFC one

2740
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:10,040
Speaker 2: sixteen ground pound. I couldn't believe how much it fucking

2741
02:04:10,120 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 2: hurt when she was in there doing it. And I

2742
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 2: joke about it with my wife because I was like,

2743
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 2: I've never seen someone take punches like that, take take

2744
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:21,800
Speaker 2: fucking strikes like that and find a way to hang onmraculously.

2745
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:25,080
Speaker 2: Brock makes it to the second I mean easy ten

2746
02:04:25,160 --> 02:04:26,520
Speaker 2: eight round score. I don't know if they were doing

2747
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:27,760
Speaker 2: it at the time, but it should.

2748
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:29,840
Speaker 1: Have been ten five ten five.

2749
02:04:29,880 --> 02:04:32,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he was dog walking brock Lesner,

2750
02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 2: but fucking brock Lesner that that bastard second round comes

2751
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 2: out changes the equation, gets a takedown on Shane Carwin,

2752
02:04:43,240 --> 02:04:46,920
Speaker 2: proceeds to start putting a beating on him and eventually

2753
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:48,640
Speaker 2: locks up a head and arm triangle. And folks you

2754
02:04:48,680 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 2: may have never train, may never realize this. That head

2755
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:52,480
Speaker 2: and arm triangle was not a very good one. Like

2756
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:54,640
Speaker 2: it was not a very technical head and arm triangle.

2757
02:04:55,080 --> 02:05:00,000
Speaker 2: Brock Lesner put all of that Minnesotas South Dakota squeak

2758
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:05,200
Speaker 2: into everything he had after getting demolished in the first

2759
02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:08,800
Speaker 2: round and choked that fucker out and got the tap

2760
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:12,240
Speaker 2: at two nineteen of the second round. I mean, dude, BC,

2761
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:15,120
Speaker 2: there are not many fights when they are over where

2762
02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:18,560
Speaker 2: I even say to myself, dude, I need a cigarette.

2763
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:20,640
Speaker 2: I needed that was a movie cigarette. After that fight

2764
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:22,080
Speaker 2: was a movie was insane.

2765
02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he is a pro wrestler who's fighting a

2766
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:27,240
Speaker 1: guy who looks like a pro wrestler, a guy who

2767
02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 1: had never been out of the first round and thirteen

2768
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:31,760
Speaker 1: pro fights up to that point. How do I forget

2769
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:35,280
Speaker 1: that Shank car only had six total UFC fights, and

2770
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, for of them were than just first round demolitions.

2771
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:41,280
Speaker 1: The way he beat Frank Mayor, this was like legit

2772
02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:44,080
Speaker 1: danger to Brock. It's actually the worst style matchup for

2773
02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 1: Brock Lesner, who was never loved getting touched in the face,

2774
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 1: and here you've got a guy, you know who's just

2775
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:51,640
Speaker 1: a badass, who's demolishing people in round one. We don't

2776
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:53,960
Speaker 1: even need to know if Carwin has a guess tank

2777
02:05:54,160 --> 02:05:57,040
Speaker 1: or a jiu jitsu game, because no one's getting there. Luke,

2778
02:05:57,160 --> 02:05:58,960
Speaker 1: it's actually a crime that this isn't on my list,

2779
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:01,200
Speaker 1: or maybe isn't number one. I've got the poster right here.

2780
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:06,240
Speaker 1: You can't over emphasize how different this felt. This fight

2781
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:08,920
Speaker 1: felt not just to your point of Brock being this

2782
02:06:09,160 --> 02:06:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, adrenaline incision, who had you know a handful

2783
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:15,720
Speaker 1: of fights, not even that. But he won in the

2784
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:20,120
Speaker 1: most extreme pro wrestling movie comeback sort of way, like yeah,

2785
02:06:20,240 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 1: Carwin's you know, he dumped his cardio there at the

2786
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:26,080
Speaker 1: end of that first round in legendary ways. And Josh

2787
02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:30,360
Speaker 1: Rosenthal needs to be you know, praised for watching close

2788
02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:32,400
Speaker 1: enough that Lesner got cut open but you know, by

2789
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:34,440
Speaker 1: the second half of that he was weathering a lot

2790
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:38,720
Speaker 1: of that storm. It's the only fight that's felt even

2791
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:40,760
Speaker 1: the build, it felt like Andre the Giant versus whole

2792
02:06:40,760 --> 02:06:43,040
Speaker 1: Cold and Wrestle Ania three, Like it felt just this

2793
02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:47,960
Speaker 1: thing that's so different from actual sport. It was bizarre,

2794
02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:50,720
Speaker 1: Like I try to imagine that's what like Joe Lewis

2795
02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:52,840
Speaker 1: and Max Schmelling Part two felt for people who were

2796
02:06:52,840 --> 02:06:55,160
Speaker 1: like tied into the war and listening by their radio

2797
02:06:55,200 --> 02:06:57,440
Speaker 1: and it's not even about boxing. It's about my country

2798
02:06:57,480 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 1: against yours, fighting for freedom. For some reason, this fight

2799
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 1: felt different, dude. It's one of my favorite pay per

2800
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:05,600
Speaker 1: view nights of all time. And I remember exiting going,

2801
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:08,040
Speaker 1: you know what, it doesn't matter that brock Lissener doesn't

2802
02:07:08,080 --> 02:07:11,640
Speaker 1: have all these fight skills. He's got stupid hard Like

2803
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:13,840
Speaker 1: you couldn't have doubted him in that moment, dude. He

2804
02:07:13,920 --> 02:07:15,480
Speaker 1: came back and beat the shit out of Frank Meir

2805
02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 1: like amazing, just amazing across.

2806
02:07:17,600 --> 02:07:20,400
Speaker 2: The board, and I had an epic night. I was

2807
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:22,400
Speaker 2: live at the time. I was editor in chief of

2808
02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 2: Bloody Elbow, and I remember live blogging it that night

2809
02:07:24,600 --> 02:07:28,320
Speaker 2: just I could barely breathe watching that shit, so I can't.

2810
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:31,320
Speaker 2: I can't. I've never had more fun than that, So

2811
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:35,720
Speaker 2: that's my number one. Al Right, BC, We've got a

2812
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:37,680
Speaker 2: very long show here. Time to wrap up. It's time

2813
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:39,320
Speaker 2: for fans ubs take it away.

2814
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it quickly. It's Morning Combat at gmail

2815
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:44,160
Speaker 1: dot com. Send us your picks of you and tight

2816
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:46,480
Speaker 1: T shirts, or if you're j Piquet, send us email

2817
02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 1: after email. And now you got a code named after you.

2818
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:51,400
Speaker 1: This one's called fan Submissions.

2819
02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:52,760
Speaker 2: You've got mail.

2820
02:07:53,440 --> 02:07:56,080
Speaker 1: Fure, we've got mail.

2821
02:07:56,240 --> 02:07:59,560
Speaker 2: I just do the fart noise now for everything viewers.

2822
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:04,200
Speaker 1: Yes we do. This one's from Nick. He says, good morning,

2823
02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 1: BC and Luke. Glad to have you both back in studio.

2824
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:09,320
Speaker 1: While Luke was on vacation, BC made a few references

2825
02:08:09,320 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 1: to My Morning Jacket the band, saying he'd seen them

2826
02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:14,360
Speaker 1: eight or nine times. I was actually lucky enough to

2827
02:08:14,360 --> 02:08:17,200
Speaker 1: accompany him to one of those shows in the summer

2828
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:19,640
Speaker 1: of six when they opened for Pearl Jam at the

2829
02:08:19,680 --> 02:08:21,560
Speaker 1: Meadows in Art for that was a great show, dude,

2830
02:08:21,640 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 1: I got so drunk I punched all my friends in

2831
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:25,000
Speaker 1: the balls really hard. Look, I feel bad about that.

2832
02:08:25,120 --> 02:08:27,280
Speaker 2: In retrospect, right, I bet, I bet you don't actually

2833
02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 2: feel bad?

2834
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:31,400
Speaker 1: I do. He says it was his first MMJ show,

2835
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:34,640
Speaker 1: and in commemoration of that event, he's created art for

2836
02:08:34,720 --> 02:08:37,600
Speaker 1: this show, This one I call My Morning Combat Jacket,

2837
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:40,560
Speaker 1: and it is a watercolor mashup of the album cover

2838
02:08:40,760 --> 02:08:43,840
Speaker 1: Z and the MK logo. It may make a great

2839
02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:45,600
Speaker 1: first tattoo. That's actually pretty.

2840
02:08:45,360 --> 02:08:48,160
Speaker 2: Badass, Luke, if you say so.

2841
02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's some art right there. He wants me

2842
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:54,040
Speaker 1: to get it as a tattoo, Luke, I won't go

2843
02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:54,440
Speaker 1: that far.

2844
02:08:54,680 --> 02:08:57,680
Speaker 2: All right, keep making tattoo.

2845
02:08:57,880 --> 02:09:00,760
Speaker 1: You're art, gentlemen, and I will keep sending at donwe

2846
02:09:00,920 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 1: ride by the way. That wasn't a great My Morning

2847
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 1: Jacket show because there was nobody there. You've seen better,

2848
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Let's go to Danny, who says dad Life

2849
02:09:07,960 --> 02:09:09,920
Speaker 1: MK style. It's Danny from the UK.

2850
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:17,440
Speaker 2: Oh snap, oh snap.

2851
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:21,400
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

2852
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:25,080
Speaker 2: That's a look at you in that hostage room with ice.

2853
02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I survived. I had to give a

2854
02:09:28,360 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 1: lot look Okay, I survived, though.

2855
02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:30,440
Speaker 3: Bro.

2856
02:09:30,520 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 2: When they nap at that age and they're out for

2857
02:09:32,440 --> 02:09:35,200
Speaker 2: like three hours, that's like the best feeling in the world.

2858
02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:38,200
Speaker 1: It's so good, it's so good. Oh yeah, thank you

2859
02:09:38,280 --> 02:09:40,560
Speaker 1: Danny for sharing your fatherhood with us. Look, you've got

2860
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 1: low moments during the day that the day sucks. Put

2861
02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:43,200
Speaker 1: on MK.

2862
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:45,800
Speaker 2: Right. Do you know what they call stella artois in

2863
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:46,800
Speaker 2: the UK?

2864
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:49,680
Speaker 1: Didn't you say they call it beer?

2865
02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:52,640
Speaker 2: They call it wife beater.

2866
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:56,240
Speaker 1: You mean the shirt that Jake Paul was wearing at

2867
02:09:56,240 --> 02:09:57,240
Speaker 1: the press conference on Monday.

2868
02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:59,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they call it wife beater. Interesting.

2869
02:10:00,200 --> 02:10:02,920
Speaker 1: Maybe they can change that all right in twenty twenty two.

2870
02:10:03,240 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 3: Look.

2871
02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't think they're trying, but.

2872
02:10:05,480 --> 02:10:08,480
Speaker 1: According to you, all of Europe is racist. So let's continue, Luke.

2873
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:10,320
Speaker 2: Let's go over there. No they're not, but they're no,

2874
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:12,040
Speaker 2: they're not. I mean, they're as racist as anybody else.

2875
02:10:12,080 --> 02:10:14,000
Speaker 2: They're just in denial about it. They're just like, oh, yeah,

2876
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:15,720
Speaker 2: we're not racist, but you know, we have this totally

2877
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:16,680
Speaker 2: segregated society.

2878
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:20,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Look, give a hair of JP from Mount Unike, Nova, Scotia.

2879
02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:21,880
Speaker 1: He says, good day, guys. I was able to get

2880
02:10:21,920 --> 02:10:24,480
Speaker 1: a local metal sign fabricator to make this for me

2881
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:27,360
Speaker 1: morning combat metal sign. How awesome is this?

2882
02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:28,720
Speaker 2: My wife and I are good?

2883
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:31,160
Speaker 1: Wow, that's pretty badass. My wife and I are currently

2884
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:34,200
Speaker 1: designing an outdoor kitchen on the lake side of our house.

2885
02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:37,040
Speaker 1: I plan on mounting this with some cool backlighting on

2886
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:40,480
Speaker 1: the barnboard wall. Massive thanks and shout out to Mikey

2887
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:43,280
Speaker 1: for sending the official MK logo so this could happen.

2888
02:10:43,480 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 1: Greatly appreciated, Love you guys, super fan for life, JP. Luke,

2889
02:10:47,080 --> 02:10:50,280
Speaker 1: that's badass. We should sell that in the damn in

2890
02:10:50,320 --> 02:10:51,280
Speaker 1: the damn store, right.

2891
02:10:51,600 --> 02:10:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2892
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:53,480
Speaker 2: I mean, as nice as it is that he's mounting

2893
02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 2: this on his property, he should just send it to

2894
02:10:55,400 --> 02:10:56,000
Speaker 2: us instead.

2895
02:10:57,800 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 1: Maybe JP will invite us to the lakehouse.

2896
02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:03,000
Speaker 2: Luke. Yeah, more invitus to the lakehouse, at which point

2897
02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 2: I will just steal it.

2898
02:11:04,040 --> 02:11:06,080
Speaker 1: We'll do MK in your house pay per view. Okay,

2899
02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:06,680
Speaker 1: we'll bring.

2900
02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:10,280
Speaker 2: Go back to the slide, the last one with the

2901
02:11:10,360 --> 02:11:15,040
Speaker 2: nature in the background. I don't understand this. It's a

2902
02:11:15,080 --> 02:11:17,520
Speaker 2: picture of like a dock on the bottom or combat

2903
02:11:17,560 --> 02:11:20,880
Speaker 2: and then it's like Verdant Hills on under morning. It's

2904
02:11:20,920 --> 02:11:22,600
Speaker 2: like a split screen, right, Like what am I looking at?

2905
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:22,800
Speaker 2: You know?

2906
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 1: Combat is the water, Luke is the lake, right, and

2907
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:26,640
Speaker 1: then the top and the.

2908
02:11:26,480 --> 02:11:28,480
Speaker 2: Other side of the lake is the top or morning

2909
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 2: is Yes, sorry.

2910
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all right.

2911
02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you JP.

2912
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:34,960
Speaker 1: That's fantastic. Let's go to Kevin. He says, this is

2913
02:11:34,960 --> 02:11:44,120
Speaker 1: Brian versus Luke the poster. They spelled my last name wrong,

2914
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 1: but that's fine.

2915
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:48,440
Speaker 2: You wear in that rebot gear.

2916
02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:50,840
Speaker 1: Damn right, I am dude. You better believe it.

2917
02:11:50,960 --> 02:11:51,200
Speaker 2: Dude.

2918
02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:53,400
Speaker 1: I can't believe you would back venom. That's such bull

2919
02:11:53,440 --> 02:11:55,320
Speaker 1: Should you drink Mickey's malt liquor.

2920
02:11:55,000 --> 02:11:55,440
Speaker 3: Too, Luke?

2921
02:11:55,720 --> 02:11:57,520
Speaker 2: Hey, only when I want to get stung.

2922
02:11:58,240 --> 02:12:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to I don't know this guy's name,

2923
02:12:02,040 --> 02:12:05,200
Speaker 1: Ti mic Or is that Tornike? I don't know what

2924
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:07,560
Speaker 1: this is. Hello, Luke and Brian. I'm your fan from

2925
02:12:07,560 --> 02:12:08,800
Speaker 1: the Republic of Georgia.

2926
02:12:08,920 --> 02:12:09,160
Speaker 4: Yes.

2927
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:12,320
Speaker 1: Since I've started following MK in twenty twelve, I've been

2928
02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:16,600
Speaker 1: watching Luke's early pmlcs. Yes, Luke, I'm one of the

2929
02:12:16,640 --> 02:12:19,040
Speaker 1: fans who has been watching your face for hours without

2930
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:22,240
Speaker 1: getting any sound and mmab and you have no idea

2931
02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:26,040
Speaker 1: how happy I was when your collaboration was formed. Thank you, Tornike.

2932
02:12:26,800 --> 02:12:29,200
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I've got no merch to pose, but here's some

2933
02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:36,879
Speaker 1: memes I've made. Keep your divine work going and never stop. Yes,

2934
02:12:36,440 --> 02:12:38,280
Speaker 1: that's true.

2935
02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:40,240
Speaker 2: True. By the way, that's a very fair meme. But

2936
02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:41,320
Speaker 2: it's also true of BC.

2937
02:12:42,120 --> 02:12:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. That is true. What was the

2938
02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:46,760
Speaker 1: other one again? You got that get was.

2939
02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:49,080
Speaker 2: About your liver? And then the organ's going to the

2940
02:12:49,080 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 2: gas station. I'm tired balls.

2941
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they well done there. All right, let's go

2942
02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:56,680
Speaker 1: to JP again. This guy's our new co host, Luke.

2943
02:12:57,640 --> 02:13:00,920
Speaker 1: Good day guys. During last Friday show, BC introduced his

2944
02:13:01,040 --> 02:13:03,600
Speaker 1: new filler segment called fill in the Blank. I found

2945
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:06,320
Speaker 1: a couple of pictures of Luke's unseen reaction as he

2946
02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:07,720
Speaker 1: struggled through the experience.

2947
02:13:12,080 --> 02:13:13,640
Speaker 2: Show us how you really feel about this new segment

2948
02:13:13,680 --> 02:13:16,720
Speaker 2: called blank. Don't worry, it's only ten questions and will

2949
02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:19,160
Speaker 2: prolong the show plus twenty minutes as you pass away

2950
02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:22,120
Speaker 2: on us. Okay, it's a moderately okay meme.

2951
02:13:22,480 --> 02:13:25,680
Speaker 1: Okay, he says he's got a second one. Luke, heret

2952
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:29,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's it. Keep up the amazing work, thank you, Jabe.

2953
02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:33,920
Speaker 1: Oh maybe he does. Let's see it. I thought Filling

2954
02:13:33,960 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 1: the Blank was spectacular. I mean, is it you know

2955
02:13:35,760 --> 02:13:38,080
Speaker 1: over under? No, but it's it's we're getting.

2956
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:41,240
Speaker 2: Some These memes are moderately passable. There's not really a

2957
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:43,680
Speaker 2: punchline to them, so you know, you gotta kind of

2958
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:44,840
Speaker 2: have to here we go.

2959
02:13:45,160 --> 02:13:46,960
Speaker 1: You're you're like, you're like, don't don't get too happy

2960
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:51,520
Speaker 1: with that promo code JP. This is andre Andreid, andre

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Speaker 1: b Andreid.

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Speaker 2: It's Demetrius Andred.

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Speaker 1: Greetings, fellow wash Dad's Andrew, Mexican tattooer from Vegas over here.

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Speaker 1: I can't all the times you, mofo has made me

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Speaker 1: laugh out loud, so I drew you guys a token

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Speaker 1: of my appreciation for helping my Mexican ass build a

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Speaker 1: better vocabulary by virtue of Cinnicinism and good old bullshitting.

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Speaker 1: Keep it up with me, goes. I know as well

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Speaker 1: that if you're in Vegas and need a tattoo for

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Speaker 1: a bit or whatever, I got you guys covered a

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Speaker 1: tattoo out of the rio at a rescutable shop. Here's

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Speaker 1: my goofy art page. He's at Instagram. He's into the

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Speaker 1: abyss art on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: This is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is good work right here at this guy.

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Speaker 2: I love this. Send that to me Mikey, who's watching this.

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Speaker 2: I love this. I'm gonna post that on social Also

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Speaker 2: the thing with the fly is really were shaking hands

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Speaker 2: through our fly. That's really that we're sad. That's a

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Speaker 2: sad thing that we've promoted.

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Speaker 1: Look, should I trust this man to tattoo me one day?

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Speaker 1: If Sean Brady defeats Bill, I'll remember the name.

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Speaker 2: Of the people who do the artwork aren't necessarily the

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Speaker 2: same people who do the tattooing, So you would need

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Speaker 2: to find someone who's an excellent tattoo apple.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's two separate. It's like writing the songs and

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Speaker 1: writing the music.

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily some people do a lot of people do both.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people do both, but they're not necessarily

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Speaker 2: they're not necessarily the same.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like a musician can't be truly great

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Speaker 1: unless he writes his own lyrics and music?

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Speaker 2: Luke, I say this much like there was controversy. I

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Speaker 2: saw someone being like, oh, Beck, you know writes and

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Speaker 2: produces his own songs. Like when we look at a

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Speaker 2: songwriting credits either just him or him and like one

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Speaker 2: other person, and then Beyonce has got like twenty five

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Speaker 2: and then people will defend Beyonce for that. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean you could defend it for all kinds of reasons,

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Speaker 2: but like who's the better artist? Beck is the better artist. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I don't even like Beck. Bech sucks, Dude, Bech sucks.

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Speaker 2: But in terms of like actual command of the art,

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Speaker 2: he's better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where it's at. Beck, you suck, all right, Okay.

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Speaker 2: In the back of Jim Panzees, I was monk. I'm

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Speaker 2: get that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean get that's you know, he's only got

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02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:53,120
Speaker 1: to go to parties because he was famous. He's not cool.

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Speaker 1: Luke this from JP of Nova Scotia. Dude, we have

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Speaker 1: a filter on the amount of JP on today's show,

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Speaker 1: Good Day MK crew and episode three forty six. We

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Speaker 1: should all thank BC for taking one for the team

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Speaker 1: with his dedication and commitment to service. Nothing said remote

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Speaker 1: location coverage like Morning Combat Live from the Atlantic City

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Speaker 1: isis bedbugs, basement bunker AG one and bedbugs? What else

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Speaker 1: do we really need? Love you guys, super fan for

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Speaker 1: life that can we blow that up? We got and

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Speaker 1: get to see it fully you.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a good one. The bed bugs,

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Speaker 2: the lack of cable discipline anywhere in that fucking room. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and just the vast amount of insects is really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy's This guy's the Canadian web Scream Luke,

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Speaker 1: he's making moves. Wow, he's taking everything Webscream worked for.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much. And Luke, we've got another

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Speaker 1: one from JP here.

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Speaker 2: Ah right, what the fuck are we doing? I mean doing.

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Speaker 1: Good Day crew. It was BC versus Luke in an

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02:16:47,520 --> 02:16:52,920
Speaker 1: unofficial MK product sponsorship pissing contest. BC said on episode

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02:16:52,920 --> 02:16:55,480
Speaker 1: three forty seven, why don't you vape with a tougher,

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Speaker 1: more manly flavor? Forget about this watermelon buffalo? Be a

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02:16:59,000 --> 02:17:01,960
Speaker 1: factory town m m a og like me and rock

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Speaker 1: the pre cancer flavor shark charcoal vape real vape charcoal

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Speaker 1: like men do.

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Speaker 2: Says more manly pre cancer.

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Speaker 1: And then Luke came back with I banged to write

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Speaker 1: a rainbow unicorn. Like anyone drinking Bang energy drink gives

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02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:22,760
Speaker 1: two shits about the flavor. That's good shit?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like dude, like, oh what flavor is it?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: Who fucking cares? You're drinking nonsense? Just get it done

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Speaker 2: with all right, JP, you're.

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Speaker 1: Back for that one. You're back. We close with danger

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02:17:32,400 --> 02:17:34,720
Speaker 1: Mouse as we tend to do. Hey, guys, some of

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02:17:34,760 --> 02:17:38,760
Speaker 1: the terrible mistakes where stuff wasn't shown last week, Sorry

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02:17:38,760 --> 02:17:40,760
Speaker 1: about that, or he says some kind of something happened,

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Speaker 1: Yeah it did. Uh so I'm back with a vengeance.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how many of these I can get past, Mikey.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the Monday show, but with a new.

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Speaker 2: Thumbnail ASMR edition. Did they hear us squeaking and shit

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02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:55,400
Speaker 2: like that in there?

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02:17:56,240 --> 02:17:58,840
Speaker 1: That's interesting? Thank you. The next one is from something

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02:17:58,879 --> 02:18:01,520
Speaker 1: Luke revealed on his personal show, which show is that.

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Speaker 2: Luke, I guess my life chat do a drunk stone.

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02:18:08,360 --> 02:18:11,680
Speaker 2: Oh dude, people are desperate for us to do a

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02:18:12,040 --> 02:18:14,600
Speaker 2: room service diaries again like the old the old style kind.

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Speaker 1: They want us to get like fired and divorced.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they want us to get fired, is they They're

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02:18:19,400 --> 02:18:21,720
Speaker 2: desperate for this show to go up and smoke?

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Speaker 1: Danger Mouse says, as an Englishman, I can't miss the

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02:18:25,400 --> 02:18:27,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to call Luke out on his comments about our

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Speaker 1: former queen and also dead wrong to him on the

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Speaker 1: pronunciation of Norwich. It's pronounced Norwich, Norwich, the w is silent,

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Speaker 1: just as in Greenwich Village.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I will say Norwich, no, no, no, Norwich has

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Speaker 2: pronounced Norwich. You fuckers can drop letters if you want.

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Speaker 2: It's Norwich and Luke, you know I don't. I also

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Speaker 2: don't care.

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Speaker 1: Here's a modified movie poster from Danger Mouse to close.

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Speaker 1: What a marathon episode we gave the people today, Luke, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 2: You gave them one. I wanted to go a little

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02:18:57,440 --> 02:19:00,000
Speaker 2: bit faster. The men who stare at goes.

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Speaker 1: Looks like BC. I want you to go, but I

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02:19:03,400 --> 02:19:05,200
Speaker 1: want you to only give like half of how good

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02:19:05,200 --> 02:19:07,000
Speaker 1: you can be. Look, I don't think that's possible.

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Speaker 2: I think it is possible. That's how you showed up

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02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:11,160
Speaker 2: at ten fifty eight for the zoo you're supposed to

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02:19:11,160 --> 02:19:13,080
Speaker 2: be on at ten thirty. You gave us half of yourself.

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02:19:13,120 --> 02:19:17,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's remind you give me the best half. Luke, Okay, there,

3080
02:19:17,879 --> 02:19:20,240
Speaker 2: just remind everyone. We are going to have Let's see

3081
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Speaker 2: Friday show. I think BC's gonna do it. An instant

3082
02:19:22,360 --> 02:19:25,760
Speaker 2: reacts to the Canelo Triple G fight on Saturday. We

3083
02:19:25,800 --> 02:19:27,760
Speaker 2: are going to have the Chill Sun and Room Service

3084
02:19:27,879 --> 02:19:31,360
Speaker 2: Diaries tomorrow. We have a lot of content coming your way,

3085
02:19:31,400 --> 02:19:33,240
Speaker 2: so thumbs up, hit subscribe all that stuff, give us

3086
02:19:33,280 --> 02:19:35,840
Speaker 2: a follow on the socials. We're on TikTok. By the way,

3087
02:19:35,879 --> 02:19:38,280
Speaker 2: we're on the place where all the kids do what

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Speaker 2: they do and then the bbl's shake their rear ends

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Speaker 2: And I don't know who looks at that kind of thing,

3090
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Speaker 2: but I'm told BC does that? Just take that for

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Speaker 2: what it's worth? What else? B C Morning Combat at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com for Friday is dead wrong? For the

3093
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:51,680
Speaker 2: stuff we get wrong, you can hit us up there.

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Speaker 2: My daughter merch banking on the door here.

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat store. Right now, we'll go our merch. But

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Speaker 1: how about fifteen percent off using our code for today?

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Speaker 1: What's the code again? JP? Fifteen jayp one five fifteen

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Speaker 1: percent off because of his great artwork, you can wear ours?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: How about that, Luke? Some people want to buy my painting,

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Speaker 1: some MK fans.

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Speaker 2: For what like a dollar?

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Speaker 1: No? No, Luke, I mean look, do you do you

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Speaker 1: you hate this one? I'm going places, Luke.

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02:20:26,480 --> 02:20:31,760
Speaker 2: Do I hate it? Yeah? No, I don't hate it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's pretty good for a kid.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say it looks like

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Speaker 1: an old vigion or something weird.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm not like not every joke has

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Speaker 2: to be about that, all right. Showtime is the label

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Speaker 2: that pay is going to Showtime dot Com get a

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Speaker 2: thirty day free Trialphy you like, you can keep it.

3113
02:20:49,480 --> 02:20:51,400
Speaker 2: If not, you can bounce. We have been here way

3114
02:20:51,440 --> 02:20:53,640
Speaker 2: too fucking long. I don't want to be call today,

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Speaker 2: So for CBS Sports Malka, Showtime Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas,

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02:20:58,480 --> 02:21:00,760
Speaker 2: RSD tomorrow with Jale. We'll see you all Friday live

3117
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Speaker 2: at eleven in the East. Until then, may all your

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Speaker 2: gains be loyal.