WEBVTT - Draft Show: Last Minute Draft Day Rumors

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>on there war room for insider news and draft analysis

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<v Speaker 1>from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select lad and now your

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<v Speaker 1>hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the day we've all been waiting for. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, nineteen NFL draft from Nashville, Tennessee. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to convene this evening in Nashville and get this thing started.

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<v Speaker 1>But until we're convening here, we're convening here, not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going anywhere because we've been with you all

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<v Speaker 1>year and we're really excited about this. Excited to be

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<v Speaker 1>working with my scouting buddies, Dane Burglar, David Hellman. A

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<v Speaker 1>new addition to the draft show for this uh this weekend. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen your fine work on all the platforms on

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys dot Com, on Dallas Cowboys Television, Lindsay Draper

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<v Speaker 1>and Lindsay will be the host this evening for our

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports Southwest pre draft show. So this will be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting for us, is that we will have we will

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<v Speaker 1>have TV work. Yeah, we're taking over because it started

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<v Speaker 1>out as an internet now yeah, then it was then

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<v Speaker 1>they put us on one oh five three the fan Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and now we're doing TV. That's how good the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Next stop is the NFL network. Let's go better. What

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<v Speaker 1>are we rails? Guys? Why I say we today? If

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<v Speaker 1>we what are we rated on iTunes? Are we like

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<v Speaker 1>way up there? Five sports podcasts? It's because a Brugler.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why. Fan base smart fan base, smart, smart fan base.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely what like I'm I'm guessing you don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>exact date, but if you had to ballpark it like

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<v Speaker 1>when did you watch your first twenty nineteen prospects? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Right around May? Late May? Memorial Day problem? I thought, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that's um, it's almost May now, yeah, Sunday, Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be working on my twenty twenty month draft that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be out Monday, Monday. No you're not, No, you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>And that'll be it'll be more of like a watch list.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and the Cowboys will have one. Yes, well

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ye we think we think though, Hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, just wait till having draft exactly two or

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<v Speaker 1>someone that's it. Uh. A lot of things going on

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<v Speaker 1>here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Uh, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have top one hundred lists, we have the Cowboys seven

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<v Speaker 1>round mock draft that's going off today with all the writers.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you took the opportunity to watch the videos

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<v Speaker 1>that we did a two round mock draft which Lindsey hosted, Dave, myself,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillis. It's very entertaining. We we had a good

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<v Speaker 1>time doing that. And the thing about it as we

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<v Speaker 1>get into this draft though, and Dan, I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>said this best is that you know, as you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Cowboys with what we think right now, no

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick as we speak, but there's fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>names that are going to have to come off that

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<v Speaker 1>board before you pick. And we did our we did

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<v Speaker 1>our draft show mock draft on Tuesday, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>we all got a little bit a little bit. It

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<v Speaker 1>was eye opening for me. There were some buyers remorse.

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<v Speaker 1>There there was some buyers remorse, and it is to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where it made me think about do we

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<v Speaker 1>do we need to go up in this draft? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you need if you're the Dallas Cowboys Stephen Jones, when

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this a lot throughout the draft. Shows

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<v Speaker 1>is that there seems like certain depth at certain positions,

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<v Speaker 1>but the positions that we might want the quality if

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<v Speaker 1>you pass that the first time, maybe the quality in

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<v Speaker 1>the third and fourth round is not where you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go. And if you could, if you could take

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<v Speaker 1>that pick at three, a third round pick at three

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<v Speaker 1>ninety and move up to get a player now getting

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<v Speaker 1>it eliminate you. And I'll make this argument though that

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a team like the Cowboys and Lindsay Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys work with the team every day.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a team that is so cap heavy. Can

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<v Speaker 1>they afford to trade up a pick? Can they afford

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<v Speaker 1>to give up a pick when they need really a

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<v Speaker 1>middle class tonight? I'm talking about Friday Friday Friday. Yeah, yeah, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say yeah, but no, they would

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<v Speaker 1>have to give a lot of picks. But there's this

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<v Speaker 1>team is so cap heavy with offensive line potentially, with

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver, potentially, with quarterback, potentially, with running back, and

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end. Everybody wants to hit on their draft, but

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<v Speaker 1>can this team afford to go four? Can't give up

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<v Speaker 1>a pick when they need a middle class? They need bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>They need bodies cheap labor. Yeah, they need they need

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<v Speaker 1>they need those guys. They need the Jalen Smith's and

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<v Speaker 1>the Seawan Lees and the guys like that they were

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<v Speaker 1>second round. They need the Xavier Woods. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>need those guys. So can this team As much as

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to say, go be aggressive, go make this happen,

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<v Speaker 1>do I need to think about my team and how

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<v Speaker 1>it structured cap wise? I get what you're saying, I do,

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<v Speaker 1>But what does Stephen Jones keep saying about taking the

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<v Speaker 1>next step? And is extra bodies going to help this

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<v Speaker 1>team take the next step or is it impact player?

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<v Speaker 1>You get it? Pick forty going to help you take

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<v Speaker 1>the next step? And that's where I want to win.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't you know, I'm I'm thinking about three years

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<v Speaker 1>from now, sure, sure, but I'm thinking about next year

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to win. And I don't think by

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<v Speaker 1>giving up pick ninety, I'm sacrificing my ability to win

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<v Speaker 1>in three years. I'd love to pick up ninety, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's ninety now. This is I have not been sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on this show all year. So what do you guys

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<v Speaker 1>think about? You know, the window terminology like with Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Romo's window they built that offensive line. Is this a

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<v Speaker 1>window right now where Dane, you're saying we want, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to win now? Because this is the window I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely think they're in, like a three year window where

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<v Speaker 1>this roster can maximize its talents. Like you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna pay some of these guys you already have,

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<v Speaker 1>You've paid Tank, You're you're more than likely going to

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<v Speaker 1>pay Dak and Amari Cooper. We'll see what happens with Byron.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about you know you mentioned Jalen Smith, What

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<v Speaker 1>about Jalen Smith? What about Layton vander esh Right? What

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<v Speaker 1>about you know you're not going to have You're more

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<v Speaker 1>than likely not going to have Lyle Collins? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you do about Ezekiel Elliott? All that type of stuff. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>And but the core group of these the core group

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<v Speaker 1>of what you need, I think will be here for

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<v Speaker 1>the next two years, maybe three. Um, So I do

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<v Speaker 1>look at that as a window where if this specific

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<v Speaker 1>core of players is going to accomplish something, it probably

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be twenty nineteen, twenty twenty or twenty twenty one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we at those strike looming in twenty twenty one. Perfect

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<v Speaker 1>that's to be the last Super Bowl champs before that

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<v Speaker 1>league goes on strike. That's fine, you know, And and

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<v Speaker 1>but I just again, I liked what we did the

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<v Speaker 1>other day because I think realistically we painted a picture

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<v Speaker 1>for what how this draft could go down for the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at two, at fifty, at fifty eight, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think all those names have to come off.

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<v Speaker 1>And but are we comfortable allowing that to happen? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys have patience, will Jerry Jones, Steven Jones, Jason Garrett,

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<v Speaker 1>Wilma Clay, Well, they have enough patience to sit there

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<v Speaker 1>for fifty seven picks. That's tough because, like or we

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<v Speaker 1>said on Tuesday night, like it's not like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna be quiet on Thursday night. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they they've got pick thirty five and they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're right there ready to get into it. On Friday night,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still waiting. I don't know. And you know, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if if Jonathan Abram and Taylor Rapp are

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<v Speaker 1>like two of the first six names off the board,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Jerry's like, no, screw this, guys, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe even Steven says that. I mean, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>write that off as a possibility. I think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be ready for both situations. You know, they'll be ready

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<v Speaker 1>to sit there and say, Okay, we feel good that

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<v Speaker 1>player X, Y and Z will be there at fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's Joe Wan Williams, a corner from Vanderbilt, Tristan

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<v Speaker 1>Hill defensive tackle UCF. They're gonna have a group of players.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they feel comfortable with it they stay at

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<v Speaker 1>fifty eight, but they're also going to have a group

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<v Speaker 1>of players that date ideally like the trade off for

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<v Speaker 1>two if it works out, and I think both those

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<v Speaker 1>names makes sense. I mean, Jonathan Abram if he falls

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<v Speaker 1>out of the first round, okay, name to watch if

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<v Speaker 1>he's still there at forty. See that's where that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of hearing whispers here the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days. It seems like to me, when they're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about these safeties, the names of Abram and Thornhill or

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<v Speaker 1>predominantly the ones YEA with rap, there's some legitimate concerns

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<v Speaker 1>with this club about raps speed. Now, if you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to people around the league, they will also tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that RAP around the forty time has forty time with

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<v Speaker 1>a hip flex or problem, you know, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>that factors into the four seven eight exactly. They are saying, No,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy plays much faster on film. We've seen that,

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about this. This player seems to be it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of he's one of my favorite players in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft. But Lindsey, do they have enough patience to

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<v Speaker 1>sit there? Do they do? Is Jerry Jones going to

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to watch this draft go away? He's already

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<v Speaker 1>committed his first round pick for or if if if

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<v Speaker 1>I think if Amari Cooper was in this draft, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be talking that we would have a first round receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper would be that guy. And he might be

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that you could sit in the top ten,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe eight on your board, I mean overall, four on

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<v Speaker 1>his own board, four in his own board at that time. So, Linds,

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<v Speaker 1>are they going to be patient enough to do this

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<v Speaker 1>or or is it going to be one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things where you know they're they're going to make a

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<v Speaker 1>move because they see things happening Dane. Dane laid it

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<v Speaker 1>out up for you there, But are they what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about that? Well, my question. And here with

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<v Speaker 1>the club, we get a really good look inside the

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<v Speaker 1>war room. We get to show you guys what goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>But who is driving this conversation? Is it Steven Jones

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<v Speaker 1>or is it Jerry? Because Jerry has come out and

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<v Speaker 1>said I don't have many years left. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not even being funny, that's what he said, that's his

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<v Speaker 1>own How much of that will drive the conversation. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a head coach too, that's in the last year

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<v Speaker 1>of his contract. If I if I'm here, I am

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<v Speaker 1>banging on the table every opportunity to get players. I

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<v Speaker 1>am not. I am not coming out of this draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett probably doesn't care about having a pick at

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<v Speaker 1>nineties just because you need middle tier players. He thinks

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<v Speaker 1>if he thinks that John exactly that that's yeah. If

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<v Speaker 1>you and that's why I brought up the point. But

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Jason Garrett and he and if he

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<v Speaker 1>honestly thinks that Jonathan Abram, that's safety from Mississippi State,

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<v Speaker 1>is his kind of guy he is, And yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you talk, you talk to people in this team about

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Abram. He will bring a different attitude, in a

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<v Speaker 1>different demeanor to this team. He's got the old school attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's married, he has a child, and he performed

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<v Speaker 1>well when he was here first visit, right, lindsay you

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance interview. Kind of your oppression of him

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<v Speaker 1>no frills, I mean, and I don't mean this badly,

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<v Speaker 1>but over the six years now that I've done these

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<v Speaker 1>interviews with these guys, less and less of them come

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<v Speaker 1>in with a suit jacket or looking ready for the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy had on a tight turtleneck blazer, no frills,

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<v Speaker 1>no funny business. I mean, like you said that that

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<v Speaker 1>got points with you, did you know what? It gets

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<v Speaker 1>points with me, Dave, because people I'll never forget t

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<v Speaker 1>j Yelden. I saw half his boxers just sagging off,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't need that on this interview day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? You know, Dave, hears me

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<v Speaker 1>complain about this stuff. Does it really matter you know

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<v Speaker 1>that much? Probably not, but to me it does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you it matters. Is Jason Garrett, It definitely

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<v Speaker 1>matters to Jason. And I don't compare me to Jason Garrett.

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<v Speaker 1>David saying, I know it doesn't matter to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people on the other side, you know, they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys have eighteen interviews in nineteen days. You're living

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<v Speaker 1>out doubts. Agreed with me. I will say that it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a personal preference. It's you know, some people think

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<v Speaker 1>it's trashy when you wear pajamas to the airport. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a flip flops and oh I'm to be shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a flip flops and Jim shorts kind of guy

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<v Speaker 1>at the airport, and that bothers some people job interview

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<v Speaker 1>your example together. But it was a great addition, right that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what that it's a it's a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. It's not as important to some people as others,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's not a bad chop. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt you. Who knows. Maybe it's just his agent telling

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<v Speaker 1>him dress in a suit based on everything their agents

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<v Speaker 1>tell them, Like some of them, I'm like, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>you would tell them, But no. With the case with

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan abral he is the type of guy that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to take that extra step because he just has

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<v Speaker 1>an old school altitude. He's just the old older guy

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<v Speaker 1>in uh coming from the college ranks, and so think

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<v Speaker 1>you'd fit perfectly in the locker room. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of like in my final mock draft, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going twenty sixty Indianapolis. Yeah, so now we're dreaming here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a dream. But if you were to fall out

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<v Speaker 1>of the first round, then that's where things get interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about that though, because and and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not naive, and your your your grades

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<v Speaker 1>are spot on like every single year. But it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>this draft seem unique in this like there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>variation what people think about these guys. Well at three positions,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically wide receiver, corner. Somebody, not you, but somebody mocked

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Butler to the Colts at twenty six this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not in your top one hundred. No, he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth round in my book, where do you have

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<v Speaker 1>him sixty two overall? Which the middle. That's still a

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<v Speaker 1>huge variation. Oh yeah, that's unbelievable. You know, Chauncey Gardner Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's got him at thirty three, somebody's got him at

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five, right, Like, and it's like that locks like

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<v Speaker 1>that for me. Sure Drew Locke is a guy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like you know, there's there's about twelve to

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen guys that everybody agrees is going to go in

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<v Speaker 1>the top twenty, and then it's just a free for

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<v Speaker 1>all because you guys place different I guess pedigree on

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<v Speaker 1>like a combine performance rather than like college tape. But

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<v Speaker 1>why it's so different, I think the style is a

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<v Speaker 1>play too, like wide receivers, Like obviously there's a huge

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<v Speaker 1>difference between Hollywood Brown and DK Metcalf, Yes, you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, you know, like a sixty pound difference, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know you factor in the different styles corners.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you have a Byron Murphy, who to

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<v Speaker 1>me is my top corner, but he's small and slow

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<v Speaker 1>compared to NFL standards, right, so not every team probably

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't work here exactly. Some teams will immediately disregard him.

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<v Speaker 1>Where a guy like Greedy Williams six three has length

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<v Speaker 1>and his fourth three speed, but and that'll work for

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<v Speaker 1>some people, but he's one eighty five. Playstrinks an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Competitiveness is an issue, so it's not going to work

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody. So I think corner safety, wide receivers, those

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<v Speaker 1>three positions especially, it would not shock me at all

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<v Speaker 1>the order these guys come off the board, who's still

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<v Speaker 1>a when we reset the board after tonight. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what receivers are gonna be DK Metcalf could easily

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<v Speaker 1>be available. I gets seem falling out of the first

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be excited about the names that are there

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<v Speaker 1>heading into Friday. I think which shuts. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to convince people. I'm not trying to be naive and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, try to convince you that guy,

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<v Speaker 1>guys with first round grades are gonna fall to fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think we're gonna be surprised by the way

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<v Speaker 1>this happens. Like there every year there will be a

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<v Speaker 1>there will be a guy Carrel Edmonds last year, Boom

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<v Speaker 1>going first round, absolutely like no one saw that coming.

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<v Speaker 1>When we get to fifty, we're gonna look and I

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<v Speaker 1>just I feel like there's gonna be at least three

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<v Speaker 1>guys where we're like, oh, okay, all right, okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>the I and I definitely the second half of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>the last half of the show, I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into some of the things you're here and Dane, I

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<v Speaker 1>know we're kind of a one stop shop for everybody

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<v Speaker 1>around the league. We got fans that listen to us

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<v Speaker 1>from other teams. I want to get into a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of those rumors and stuff that you hear, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's I'm fascinated by what the Raiders potentially can do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinated by what, you know, what we would do,

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<v Speaker 1>what we would do if you know, an Arizona situation,

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<v Speaker 1>because it seems like that Arizona as we are, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hours away from this draft starting, they're still locked into Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>should we take this quarterback or should we not? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And then? And I think that's a or are they

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to drum up trade off? I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to drum up. I think there's some serious

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<v Speaker 1>concern there. I think that this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>one where Michael Bidwell, the owner, is going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to make a call on this one. Does he want

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<v Speaker 1>to back his coach or does he want to back

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<v Speaker 1>his general manager? Please give me a reason to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that Kyler Murray's going to Oakland. Just give me a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what I want it. There are enough

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<v Speaker 1>smart people around the league that I trust who think

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<v Speaker 1>that Kyler Murray's not going on. And it's because of scouts. Hey, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they want Nick Bosa. And so it comes down to,

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<v Speaker 1>like Brian was saying, Michael Bidwell, who swings up pretty

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<v Speaker 1>heavy stick in that war room and the decision they make,

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<v Speaker 1>do do they want to go? Do they trust Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Rosen enough, do they believe in what he did? Or

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<v Speaker 1>do they want to go with the young, exciting quarterback?

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on with this schizophrenic franchise where they

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<v Speaker 1>fired their coach after one year? Sure, they retained the

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<v Speaker 1>GM that hired him. Then they made like the most

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<v Speaker 1>outside the box hire ever, like purely based on like

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<v Speaker 1>the changing philosophies and offensive football? Who is in love

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<v Speaker 1>with this quarterback that they're talking about at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the draft, and then they're not going to give

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<v Speaker 1>him what he wants, like they're not going to give

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<v Speaker 1>him the player that gives him the best chance to succeed. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just that you just that's Cliff Kingsbury's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of my speech to Michael Bidwell. Why like you hired me?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you give me my quarterback? Why did you

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<v Speaker 1>hire him? Right, I'll tell you what and why do

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<v Speaker 1>you I care? With this GM thought? If he if

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<v Speaker 1>we're so convinced that the quarterback's not the guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>we already fired the coach that he picked. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's do this. Let's take our first break, take our

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<v Speaker 1>first break, and when we come back, let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>that again. I'm interested in what everybody thinks about the

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<v Speaker 1>whole Kyler Murray's situation. I think he answered a great

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<v Speaker 1>I asked a great question day. I want to also

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what potentially the Raiders can do there as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Redskins, the Giants. There's a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 1>that are trying to parlay some picks and go up.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are they trying to get. We'll kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>through Dame Burgler. He's got his mock draft out. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>kind of go through that a little bit. So you

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<v Speaker 1>And then also then we're gonna have again that pre

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<v Speaker 1>to two fifty four also covered. We'll have opinions on that.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope you follow along with us. Again, you could

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<v Speaker 1>awful pick, we'll let you know. If we like somebody's pick,

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<v Speaker 1>well we'll talk about that too. You never know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the day three we'll find a player they need to

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<v Speaker 1>draft and we'll get them drafted. You know, we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have a little bit of magic tune that. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have some fun. It should be a great week

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and excited about all the things that we're gonna do

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>here on Dallas Cow we saw comment and again with

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 1>our partnership with Fox Sports Southwest and then one oh

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<v Speaker 1>five three the fan. Okay, David helm and you were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of talking about Kyler Murray. Why would you not

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a new coach, why would you not want

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<v Speaker 1>to try and help him all? And in that regard, Dane,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a thought about that. Why they would The

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<v Speaker 1>scouts are talking about we like, we like Bosa, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to draft Bosa. I don't care what you think, coach,

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:36.280
<v Speaker 1>we want Bosa. Is that a healthy situation for Arizona

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 1>going forward? The Scouts drifted Josh Rosen last year, so

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 1>you think they're protecting their player? Well, part partly that

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and part. You know, they believe in Nick Bosa as

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that's going to help advance them as a

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>football team. Um, you know, and it's there's no consensus

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.199
<v Speaker 1>over there, and so it really is going to come

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<v Speaker 1>down to the owner and does he feel okay punting

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<v Speaker 1>on their first round quarterback from last year. And the

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<v Speaker 1>other aspect of it is he's an owner, so he

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 1>has his eye on the bottom line. And it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of twofold. They're gonna take a loss with Josh Rosen.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna get accurate value from the first round

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<v Speaker 1>pick plus what it took to get up into the

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 1>top ten last year to get him. But Kyler Murray

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<v Speaker 1>means New Jersey sales. You know, everyone's in excitement. Oh yeah,

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.360
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna be paying attention buttson seeds, eyeballs on

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals, which Josh Rosen will not bring to the

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>same level as a Kyler Murray. So from the ownership standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting how that's going to play out. Seventy

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>thirty is kind of what the feedback I got, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray to Nick Bosa, But I want to find

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<v Speaker 1>out tonight, Lindsay, do you think it's healthy for this

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 1>team to have to keep Rosen and also draft Kyler Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I was while Dan was talking, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just thinking, I wonder how Josh Rosen feels or

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>would feel when that happens. I would be I don't

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>even know happen here with Dallas and eighty nine with

0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Steve Walsh and Trey Aigman. That was an awful situation

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 1>for this organisas Yeah, I don't remember who it was,

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 1>but some you know, one of the national guys who

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>might have been Rappaport reported yesterday that, you know, the

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>people in the building out there are like really impressed

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:14.679
<v Speaker 1>with the grace and a plum that he's handled this with.

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>He's just kind of doing his job and not raising

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>the stink and blah blah blah, which that's commendable. But

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 1>if they actually draft Murray, I mean he might not

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>he might not make a stink publicly, but he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like, get me out of here, Like, I'm not

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 1>sitting around to sit behind this this kid. Yeah old

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>is he ty three? Yeah? Yeah? If you if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a situation now and you're the Oakland Raiders sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>at four let me ask you this, though, the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>at three, are they gonna be able to drum up business?

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<v Speaker 1>You think they went out of there? Everybody knows, but

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>it's just yeah, will they get the trade offer that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to get them to move out of there? Because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance the Jets will have the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to draft who a lot of people thinks the best

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:57.879
<v Speaker 1>player in the draft, and that's Quinn and William defensive

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>line from Alabama. So is there a trade offer? And

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<v Speaker 1>the most logical trade partner would be the Redskins because

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 1>they want to go up and get Haskins and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to get in front of the Raiders at four,

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>who could possibly take Haskins. But the Redskins have to

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>go from fifteen to three, So that has to include

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>next year's one, this year's two at six. That's two

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>forty six that they currently own their second round. And

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're trading up for Dwayne Haskins rookie

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback next year, case Keenum, you might be picking top

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>ten next year. So think about trading a top ten

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 1>pick next year, your second rounder this year, plus the

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth overall pick to go up and get Haskins. It's risky.

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>The last time they did this, RG three chosen twelve

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't quite work out. I know, there's I know the smoke.

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>The smoke around both of the NFC East teams is

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<v Speaker 1>about Daniel Jones and Dwayne Haskins. Were like, no possibility

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that one of them goes after Murray at one. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's a steep price. Yeah, I'd be surprised. Could

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<v Speaker 1>Haskins go at four? Raiders? Yeah? God, God bless that man,

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 1>John Gruden, because I think anything's possible with those crazy Yeah.

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, Like I think I actually heard

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 1>that the Raiders were looking to take twenty four and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven and try and go somewhere up. They've got,

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>they got thirty five, they got I mean, they got

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<v Speaker 1>Ammo and think about it. I'm sorry, go ahead, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd just be shocking if they picked at four, twenty

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>four and twenty seven. Yeah, they're gonna be active. I mean,

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders, what is crazy talent? What's the snapchat? What's

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the snapshot on the Raiders? They're broke. Yeah, they're leaving

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Oakland for a new market. They're trying to market themselves

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>in a new market in a new stadium. Sure, they

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>got a new coach who has absolutely no faith in

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>any of the guys on his roster. As evidence the

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>front office or the front office, he's proven that threw

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>all of his scouts out of the building. He traded

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<v Speaker 1>the best pass rusher in the league and one of

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the top ten or so receivers in the league. There's

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>next to no evidence that he has faith in the

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>current quarterback. This is a great thirty for thirty. Should

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 1>it shock anyone if John Gruden goes after Kyler Murray?

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Like what's going That shouldn't But what's gonna sell PSLs

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas more than Kyler Freakin Murray? Only or

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>argument to that is they don't they just set at four?

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>You don't need a trade. Set a four? Are you

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>sure about that? Because well, if you're if you give

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a trade, if you can trade up to one, then

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Arizona really doesn't want them. Yeah, if they're willing to

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>do a deal, then they don't want them. So set

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>a four. That movie I hate, I would have made that,

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I would have SAME's. Isn't it the same logic that

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<v Speaker 1>gets the Bears to do something crazy like trade from

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>three to two? I mean if, okay, the Cardinals might stupid,

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>then Cardinal it was, but Cardinals might not want him.

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>But maybe somebody's willing to do a deal at two

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>or three. And that's something that you gotta forget yourself. Definitely,

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that is a factor. It's just who the Giants, maybe

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Washington Redskins. If the report is true that Daniel Snyder

0:28:56.560 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>has taken control, who knows what they I'm so excited.

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't care that the Cowboys don't have a pick

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>with want maximum chaos, the first round chaos. It's exciting regardless,

0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>but especially this year because it's some unpredictable I was

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>told Jay Gruden wants Daniel Jones, makes sense, Bruce Allen,

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Snyder want Dwayne Haskins, And of course in that

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>type of battle, ownership is gonna win. Yeah, so you

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>know which one does Snyder want Haskins? Haskets Bruce Allen

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>And that upsets me because Haskins is the better player

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I was hoping, Yeah, exactly. Okay, the division teams for

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboy fans, are you worried more about the Redskins

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>getting the players or the Giants getting the players or

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>getting the quarterbacks? The Redskins if you worry about them

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>fixing their quarterback situation with Wayne Haskins, the Redskins have

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>better talent around their potential quarterback right now than the

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Giants do. Yeah, even with sa Quon on the team,

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I think hask You think Doug Williams reminds Haskins of himself?

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I think Doug Williams is enough of us say to matter.

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>But they put Doug Williams out there is the kind

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>of the mouthpiece exactly, that's what he is. But do

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you think do you think they kind of see a

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>little Doug Williams in him? Maybe? I think that he

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>went to see Jason Campbell and Doug Williams. He went

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to high school with Daniel Snyder's son, and that's the

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>thinking that they have. You know, I don't think there's

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>anything that you can really point to except the fact

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that he upgrades a quarterback position. Lindsay you worried about

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>this team, You worry about the Redskins and the Giants

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>have proven enough. Giants with the two first round picks,

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>do you worry about them? They're gonna do something stupid

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>with them? Do you think so? Yes, they traded Odell like,

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>what are they doing. I'm kind of back to the

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>beginning of our conversation, like are the Cowboys going to

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>do something big too? Because if the Cowboys came about patients, yeah,

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:45.560
<v Speaker 1>do you think they're gonna have the patients to stand

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>in there? There's a difference between patients and being or

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe the better word being conservative and being aggressive. You

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>can't let everyone else get better and you not. You.

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're right, but everyone else is picking at

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 1>the top of the draft because they've been back. I

0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>mean the Giants have. The Giants have pick six and

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:06.959
<v Speaker 1>pick seventeen, one because they're terrible, and two because cot

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Rid of a generational player on purpose. So I mean,

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't have much faith, David. They have done nothing

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>since Gettleman got there to give me, which you know

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I've said this a million times, like the Cowboys took

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Zeke at for I understand that I'm kind of talking

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>out of both sides of my mouth, but that was

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>really stupid. The Cowboys were trying to maximize a championship

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>window for an aging quarterback. The Giants went out to

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. Now the Giants window with Elis is done.

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>They didn't have the offensive line, right, they didn't they

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>needed help on defense. They had a quarterback staring them

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>right in the face. Also, the Cowboys picked fourth that year. Uh,

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>they didn't have a shot at Winz Orgoff without doing

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>a trade. The Giants went away from much better players.

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm who am I drawing up? Mean? It was a yeah,

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>it was a quarterback bananza. Last year. They could have

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>had Darnald. Yeah, they should have taken Darnold. They should

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>have I understand how good say quan Is is a

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>great player. They made the wrong choice. I'm oh, okay,

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't have had Baker, which no, that's the only

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>player that one. In a minute, can I ask you,

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>and we've been talking about the Raiders, can you can

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you shed some light on something you and I had

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>a discussion with last night about agents. Yeah, listen to

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>this if you're a fan of If you're a Raiders fan,

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe out there listening, or you're just a fan of

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>of intrigue. Dan came up with an interesting theory last

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>night when he was putting together his mock draft about

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders, and it happens to be with players involved

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>and like with a fourth pick, stuff like this shouldn't matter,

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't but it does. It does. Especially we're talking about

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the Raiders and the Davis family, John Gruden, but they

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>hold grudge. It's this group exactly. It's bad blood and

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>that bad blood will boil when it comes to Joel Siegel,

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>who is the agent for Khalil Mack Anamory Cooper both

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>left the Raiders on you know, bad terms terms. Yeah,

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the agent for at all Oliver and Josh Allen is

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Joel Siegel. M How does that play a part? And

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>like I said, the fourth overall pick, it should not matter.

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 1>You should draft the best player and you figure that

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>out along the way. But yeah, five years to you

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>really have to worry about that anyway exactly. But at

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the same time, NFL teams, especially this team with the Raiders,

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>with the Davis family, with John Gruden, that will matter

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>to them. Dallas Cowboys might not be that far off.

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we'll see what David Canner's future relationships with

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>this team look like. After the DeMarcus Lawrence go. I

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>think that's fascinating that it is that you would you

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>would you would just totally walk away from two because

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>of an agent, and the Raiders will hold a grudge.

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>They will hold a grudge. That goes even further into

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>my thought process. I was gonna, Okay, they could go

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>after Kyler. They could do like they could make the

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 1>most boring which I hate to say this about my guy,

0:33:57.560 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Like they could make a boring pick and just take

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>like a Devin White. So I had him in my

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>final Monk. I still can't believe that an off ball

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>linebacker might go top five in this draft. But like,

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>they could do that too. They could take t J. Hawkinson.

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Devin White is so far up Gruden and mayox Alley.

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not exactly he's like Taylor made for what they want.

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>The attitude, Yeah, absolutely, And I mean he doesn't help

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the pass rush as a pass rusher would, but he's

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 1>the best blitzing linebacker in this class. So I mean

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>he gives you a little bit of juice. Fantastic player.

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I think you should be able to find better value

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:34.240
<v Speaker 1>at fourth overall, agree anyway, But yeah, the agent angle,

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 1>there is certainly another fascinating wrinkled single. Yeah, he had

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>two the ones that they let go. Yeah, and and

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 1>trust me, that group remembers what happened. The North remembers

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't watch Game of Thrones. I don't watch I know,

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>yeah I picked the Wow, I couldn't have picked three

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>worst people to make that. We all have kids, believe

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Ken, appreciate you, Dane. Is some of the

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>other room that you might be hearing about some of

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>these teams? We talked a little bit about Washington, We

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>talked a little bit about the Giants. Is there anybody

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 1>else that you're kind of hearing some whispers? Uh? We

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>still talk about rumors on our own team in the

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>last segment. Yeah, you've got one lens. You sent it

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to me during the show. Oh, that's a different one.

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about the one we talked about before

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the show about Taco. Who's gonna let you guys talk

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:28.959
<v Speaker 1>about that? Well, we can talk about that a little

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>bit later later. Let's do it. Let's do I want

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.280
<v Speaker 1>to talk about a couple other things with the Cowboys.

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 1>We can do that in the third set. Yeah, absolutely, Well,

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>but tell me there was some there's some some I'm

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 1>hearing some whispers about stuff going on and it's almost

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>said San Diego in Los Angeles with the Chargers, is

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>there some things going on there with their quarterback situations?

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 1>There's been some rumors about possibly the Chargers working on

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a deal for Rosen if Kyler Murray is the first pick, Um,

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's where you know they're again they're not getting

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the value. And so could the Chargers the Cardinals on

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the first pick in the second round swap picks with

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the late first round pick for the Chargers with at

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, Yeah, the the Los Angeles Charger at twenty eight,

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight, So swap twenty eight and thirty three and

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 1>then swap quarterbacks Josh Rosen, Tyrod Taylor. That's something that's

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>been out there. UM hurt that multiple places. Um. Speaking

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>with the NFC East teams, I was told Hollywood Brown,

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the wide receiver from Oklahoma, is not getting past twenty

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>five and the Eagles so that reminds them of Jackson Sean. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>So you know, we just we talked about the Redskins,

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the Giants, what they're gonna do with, you know, the

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>quarterback situation in the top half of the first round,

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:47.200
<v Speaker 1>bottom half of the first round, where the Eagles were

0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>picking two guys to watch for Hollywood Brown, yes, and

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Simmons and Jeffrey Simmons is one of the both

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 1>those players. If I'm if I'm a fan of the Cowboys,

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:58.399
<v Speaker 1>those are two players I do not want to see

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia. Take the tiny, take the tiny, fast receiver

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. You just don't want Jeffrey Simmons, the defensive

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>tackle to show up in Philadelphia. I don't want Jeffrey

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Simmons playing next to Fletcher Cox. No, I don't. I

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 1>don't want that. See. I kind of thought, I kind

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>of thought that that that's where Jeffrey people are all saying.

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, they kept asking, oh, does he get the

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>fifty eighths and no, stop, no, no, just stop. Another

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>team to look forward Jeffer Simmons. The Miami Dolphins. We

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>all assume that they're kind of in tank mode for

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>next year. It's the better first round tank pick than

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Simmons. Great point, who's gonna red shirt this year,

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>is gonna give you, hopefully to be a top five

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.839
<v Speaker 1>player in this draft, and he's ready to go next year.

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:40.240
<v Speaker 1>He's the perfect tank pick and if the Dolphins are able,

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>in my mind tract, I have him traded him back

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>twice with the Giants and the Texans taking Jeffrey Simmons

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 1>at twenty three. That's an ideal scenario for the Dolphins,

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 1>aside from the fact that I love they're gonna be great,

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be brutal to watch for sixteen weeks next

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:56.720
<v Speaker 1>year and the Cowboys playing what week three Dolphins? Yeah,

0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>bring that tank mode in. Yeah, I said it. But

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the cow Boys should win their first three games. Okay,

0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 1>don't at me, Okay, um, but they're in a fantastic position,

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 1>like they're gonna be in the top five in a

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>year where there will be three really badass quarterbacks on

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the board, so or at least two too, definitely too.

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't he's talk about it. From is a third

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>from there's in there another one too? Favorite college player

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>man that Ta and Herbert are the two. Yeah, exactly,

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 1>but I think froms as good as people think. But

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>we'll save that save that first. Sorry sorry, yeah, all right,

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>that's next year. Yeah, how about this though, Okay, we

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>got that rumors, we got rumors, you know, Lindsay prop

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:38.719
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<v Speaker 1>with that, We're back here in the sw conversation here

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<v Speaker 1>classic Brian. I got in trouble one time. By the

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<v Speaker 1>h you got a file of the I got a

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<v Speaker 1>file at CBS. I gotta r for dropping an F

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<v Speaker 1>bomb on the radio one time. Paul Dawson, Paul Dawson,

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<v Speaker 1>I was right about by the way, I was right

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Yeah, he deserved that, right about Paul. I

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<v Speaker 1>was right about that. Okay, Yes, we're back here in

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<v Speaker 1>and get through some cowboy rumors. Uh, maybe some league rumors.

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about. I got some medical information

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.799
<v Speaker 1>too on some of these cats that you might if

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<v Speaker 1>some guys start slide, and maybe you'll kind of go oh, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know kind of a thing. So, Lenz, you brought

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>up earlier than the Taco. It was tweeted out yesterday

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>by Mike Fisher of one oh five three The Fan

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 1>about a potential the Cowboys trying to shop Taco around.

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts about that or what direction you'd like to go. Well,

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the reason I brought it up is because last night,

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:27.279
<v Speaker 1>after we streamed our mock draft, I went on to

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 1>check it out, see how it went, how it looked,

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and every comment was about Taco from a fan. So

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 1>clearly this is something they want to talk about and

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>hear about. Brian. I know your stance is he's not

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 1>going anywhere. I don't think he is going anywhere. I

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 1>don't just talk that. That's I think this is agent

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>drumming up business, trying to be poor Taco. You know,

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of a thing. Yeah, well shouldn't they Okay, Taco

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>needs Taco needs to concentrate. Like I said earlier in

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 1>pre show about he needs to become Byron Jones. He

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:59.839
<v Speaker 1>needs to go out there, play down every down, be reliable,

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:03.839
<v Speaker 1>be dependable, you know, play hard and try and get

0:43:03.880 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>that fifth year option. That's what he needs to do.

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, these guys have proven it if you play

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:12.359
<v Speaker 1>well enough, they'll pay you to play. And I think

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.720
<v Speaker 1>that's where I think that needs to be Taco's focus

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 1>instead of trying to drum up false business. If you

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 1>want to trade somebody, We've said this a bunt. You

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.919
<v Speaker 1>want to trade somebody, get a value, trade little Collins, Yeah,

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>trade somebody like that. Did you get a second third

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:28.719
<v Speaker 1>round pick for maybe even I mean if we're even even,

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.399
<v Speaker 1>if you entertain it assibility, Yeah, you're not getting value.

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>You getting valued on from Taco. And people are saying,

0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:35.880
<v Speaker 1>can we move up? Oh, ship Taco to Miami and

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 1>you'll move up ten spots. Well, but Miami just gave

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you Robert Quinn. Do you think they're gonna take Taco?

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's trying to tank. It's what we were talking

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>about earlier. It's the conversation that we have every year.

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, there was a guy in our mentions

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.240
<v Speaker 1>this morning who wanted a third round pick for Taco,

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, why are you trying to deal with

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy? If he's worth a third round pick? Why

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>was he a healthy scratch multiple times? If he's working

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 1>round pick? Like other teams pay attention to this team,

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Like every team in the league has a cheat sheet

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>on what's going on with this team and where they are.

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:08.879
<v Speaker 1>What's the best offer think you'd get for Taco late

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>day three? As s Yeah, that's fifth, fifth would be amazing.

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 1>He swapped players for our guy last year with the Raiders, right,

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 1>the defensive tackle you got hot Ward and you got

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you got a sixth for Tavon. Yeah, here's a question.

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Who was available that we could have taken instead of Taco?

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe should have taken instead of Taco. Okay, we'll see.

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 1>This is where Will McClay and this is where I

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>was wrong by the way I thought that Will was

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>pushing the coaches in a way to take to take

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.360
<v Speaker 1>what and I was I was told I am absolutely

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>dead wrong about that. Will was Will guy right? Will

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Will admitted it. Will said no, no, he goes. I

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you trying to be nice but I didn't think

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 1>that Watt could be an every down player like he

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:58.160
<v Speaker 1>is hand down guy. And so excuse me, Linz, but

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I just want to clarify that I thought it was

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Will was saying, hey, I want what and no, that's

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>not the case. He was. He was on board with

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 1>pushing Taco to the staff. So that's that's where we're.

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Taco a highly talented individual who has been marred by

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>this drama and Twitter or is he not the player

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that they thought he was? I think he's just not

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the some of his parts. Like there's a lot of

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>individual traits you like about him, but he's not able

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to put it together into one cohesive football player that

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>equals production, you know. And so and that's what you

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 1>do as a scout. You you evaluate traits because you

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>know that's that's the job of a scout, but you

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>also have evaluate good football players. And Taco just wasn't

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a great football player in college. That's why I think

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>most of us but we had a second round and

0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's just it's he's the same guy that

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 1>they drafted and he hasn't shown that development and that's

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 1>he needs to improve. Yeah, he does in part and

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that's not it's not It shouldn't be all on you know,

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys front office for making the pits. Some of

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>it you to put on the player for not realizing

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 1>his opportunity and taking advantage of it. Absolutely, and the

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff I mean, simply put the stuff you see on

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>social media doesn't make you feel a ton of confidence,

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you know. And it seems I don't want to put

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>words in his mouth. It certainly seems like he's more

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>worried about what people are saying about him than anything else.

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>There's like he is very, very sensitive about what is

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>said about him. And you know, he needs to he

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 1>needs to buck up. And like I said with Byron Jones,

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you know which go get you that fifth year option?

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:31.880
<v Speaker 1>You know? And and look, I mean yeah t J.

0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Watt went two picks after That's that hurts. But you

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 1>can say that about a billion picks you can point being.

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 1>But I want to admit I was wrong. I was wrong,

0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 1>and I was wrong about my assessment of the situation

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>and what I believed was the situation. Even if Will

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Smith or Will Smith, even if Will McClay stood on

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the table and was like, Taco is the guy. You

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>know what You're not going to bat a thousand in

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>this industry, just not. And going back to twenty ten,

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 1>what's that nine picks, Yeah, seven of them have been

0:47:05.560 --> 0:47:08.400
<v Speaker 1>all prost. I mean, I think that's why Will McClay

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 1>stepped up and said, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, we're not

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:13.359
<v Speaker 1>going to bat a thousand, And you can kill him

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 1>for draft and Tacco if you want to. Yeah, it

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>might have been a missed pick. It's it is what

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>it is. It's fascinating looking back at the pass rushers,

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>the defensive ends in that draft, aside from Miles Garrett,

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.839
<v Speaker 1>who would number one, Yeah, win number one. He's gonna

0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>be the highest pay defensive player here in a few years.

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm betting after Miles Garrett, Solomon Thomas with looking great.

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>We'll get to that. We're gonna hear his name floated

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:39.720
<v Speaker 1>out of trade rumors. Uh, Derek Burnette's been hurt. Jonathan Allen,

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:43.280
<v Speaker 1>he's been okay in Washington, but hasn't been a game changer.

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Kicked the Cowboys, but a couple of times those two

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>Alabama guys inside have been But Charles Harris with the

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins as it was a buss tack McKinley from UCLA

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>hasn't lived up in Atlanta, so yeah, yeah, yeah, So

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:59.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean just that defensive end class was really not

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 1>what we expected at this point, and we know it

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>takes a while for that position, but still he's not

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>helping him well that is, and that I think that's

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the debate, which I don't know what they're gonna do.

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:11.839
<v Speaker 1>I tend to believe they won't do anything. But if

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you're trading Taco, it's just because you're sick of his

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 1>attitude and you don't want him here, and you're just like,

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 1>we'll call it a loss, we'll get a you know,

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:22.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll get our late fifth round pick or sixth

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>round pick, and we'll just get him out of our hair. Yeah.

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.799
<v Speaker 1>But the other side of that is he's in he's

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>heading into year three. You know, Byron didn't make a

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl till his fourth year, right, and you know

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 1>you bank on him figuring it out at some point.

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:37.879
<v Speaker 1>So those are your two options. Well, you would think though,

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 1>with Rod Marinelli and Leon Letting, those guys how excited

0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:44.439
<v Speaker 1>they are, and you know, on heck on, on Friday night,

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>we might hear another defensive ends name called you know,

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of where this is at right now. Hey,

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a bit because we're talking about safety.

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're talking about safety because okay, whats what

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>what's cab On Frasier done? You know, I mean there's

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a and I mean Cavon was

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.279
<v Speaker 1>a sixth round pick. But I'm just saying, though, if

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 1>if in fact that you had seen some growth, yeah,

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:12.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe that Cavon Frazier steps and it plays that down safety. Sure,

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of where I'm No. Fine, I'm just trying

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:16.959
<v Speaker 1>to say, if you'm just if you were a little

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:19.839
<v Speaker 1>bit better, I hesitate. I just hesitate to compare pick

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight to pick to whatever, pick fifty eight. No,

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Taco. Sorry Taco. Okay, I'll see what

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 1>you're saying. Uh, Okay. The next thing I want to

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:32.720
<v Speaker 1>get Dave, you were talking about you brought up Solomon Thomas.

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Well Lindsay brought him up, and yeah, I mean it's

0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 1>a similar it's the same story we just said with Tacco,

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>which I don't know anything about Solomon Thomas's attitude and

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>he I remember he had a high, you know, reputation

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>grade coming out that draft, but he has not lit

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the world on fire in San Francisco. They if Kyler

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Murray goes number one, Nick Bosa is gonna be on

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 1>that line with Armstead and partner for board now right.

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's totally makes sense why there are rumors about

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 1>them shopping him, which I want to know. Cowboys could

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>use the defensive lineman we're talking about maybe drafting Tristan

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Hill or Jalen Ferguson. Would you do that deal? And

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:14.479
<v Speaker 1>what would you pay for him? The former number three

0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>overall pick in the draft? You got the two, you

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 1>got the two fours. It's hard because I honestly have

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 1>not watched enough of Salomon Thomas the last two years

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>to give a great answer. But we really liked the

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:27.160
<v Speaker 1>player coming out. I sure did as a base end,

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 1>a guy that can reduce inside. Has it been because

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>of coaching change there? Or I mean, yeah, that's I

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:38.240
<v Speaker 1>mean more than anything. Is it is it something that? Okay?

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Is it worth it to you there at at three ninety?

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Is it worth it to you at four? Was it

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 1>one twenty seven? That's I want? I mean, we we

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 1>just sat here and said, excuse me, a four one

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight I have a hard time believing you're getting

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 1>a better player in the late fourth round than Solomon Thomas. Yeah,

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I have a hard time believing. Yeah, but it just

0:50:57.800 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 1>makes me wonder, Sorry, if you're gonna take a three

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 1>technique already, right, or maybe a end? But do we

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 1>remember what they viewed him as a three technique or

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.800
<v Speaker 1>an end? I think they looked him as a tackle.

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't bump into Rod Marinelli this morning. That

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 1>makes me mad because I used to ask him questions

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 1>about it. He'll be around for the rest of the day, probably,

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I wanted I wanted to. I wanted

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to know, if you know, well, what makes me I mean,

0:51:23.520 --> 0:51:25.439
<v Speaker 1>on their stack, I'm sure he was probably a top

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:29.280
<v Speaker 1>ten player probably, Oh yeah, I'm sure that. But where,

0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:31.239
<v Speaker 1>you know where, how did they view him and how

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 1>do they view okay, anywhere? How about anywhere? How about anywhere?

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 1>If they you know, well, I mean, I agree with you,

0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 1>but you know, we could say the same thing about TJ. Way.

0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean they view I think they viewed him as

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a specific role, either a base end who could reduce

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:47.319
<v Speaker 1>inside or as a straight three technique. And so it's

0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>just a matter of what they thought of him pre draft,

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and then, like they've said, the last two years where

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 1>he was probably at a position in that scheme. You know,

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 1>do they still believe in him the way they did

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 1>two years ago and makes him Francisco would take that

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:03.479
<v Speaker 1>fourth round pick. That's what I wonder because we're sitting

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 1>here saying, you know, Taco's pick one twenty eight, Solomon

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:10.919
<v Speaker 1>Thomas's pick one three, Right, so we're sitting here saying,

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:13.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe you can get a sixth for Taco. What does

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco think about him? What do they want for him?

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why it's trying to be realistic and

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 1>offer ninety or ninety sounds fair, but maybe you could

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>get him for even cheaper. Like it's staggering how little

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you can get players for it. It It just depends on

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 1>who else you're bidding with, you know what other offers,

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:31.879
<v Speaker 1>unless unless you're dealing with Arizona, who really doesn't want

0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to give up their quarterback yet, fifty eight sounds really rich.

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, no way, I can't do it. I would

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>take Solomon Thomas over what might be there for you

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.319
<v Speaker 1>at nineties, especially if we're trying talking about the line

0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:45.319
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about taking Hill at fifty eight. Yeah, we

0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:48.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel good about it the other night, right, I

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:50.879
<v Speaker 1>think that in order for it to happen, I would

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>think they'd have to do it for ninety. I don't

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:54.160
<v Speaker 1>know if you're late for Yeah, it would be in

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:56.160
<v Speaker 1>huff but I don't know. I just think about it.

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 1>In Philadelphia we traded for Hugh Douglas second round pick

0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:02.960
<v Speaker 1>for Hugh Douglas fourteenth. Overall, I believe with the Jets

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:07.120
<v Speaker 1>with parcels. I just I've been around long enough that

0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I don't know if Triston Hill will

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Speaker 1>be the pick, but they're great on Tristan Hill is outstanding,

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and they're just like we feel great and like, you know,

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>if they were to draft him at fifty eight, then

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:19.440
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't even want Salomon Thomas. I bet you if

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:22.600
<v Speaker 1>they put Salmon Thomas evaluation tape, don't you think Lenz

0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Salomon Thomas and Tristan Hill, if it has to be,

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 1>they'd have to say they'd have a better grade on

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Tristan on Salomon Thomas, you would think, But then you know, maybe,

0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 1>but you're now three years removed, right, two years removed?

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you throw on his forty nine Yer tape and

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:43.439
<v Speaker 1>you're just not wowed. Yeah, I don't know. That does

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 1>raise one more thing I wanted to bring up. We're

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:48.680
<v Speaker 1>running out of time, but something you know, I want

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:51.359
<v Speaker 1>to get in some medical information. Well just real quick.

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we we talked about trading up when we

0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 1>did that mock draft. Did we not pay enough credence

0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:00.279
<v Speaker 1>to the idea of trading away from pick fifty eight?

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:03.799
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I don't really think so because like,

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:06.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm I think they'll have a hard time sitting

0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:08.920
<v Speaker 1>there for fifty seven picks and think about going backwards

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>if they're out, yeah, wiped out or like they're okay,

0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:15.840
<v Speaker 1>if they're there. If they're wiped out, then who's coming up?

0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Who's there? I'm not trying to be a jerk, No, No,

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying if if if you're wiped out, who

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 1>is somebody interested in? That's what gives me pause is

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:27.359
<v Speaker 1>and you like this is that like is this gonna

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:31.200
<v Speaker 1>sound crazy? Is that Will Greer? Sure? Is that Finley

0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:33.719
<v Speaker 1>could be? Is it one of those guys could be?

0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 1>You know? And is it worth it? Is it worth

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:38.680
<v Speaker 1>moving back? I mean? What are you getting? Yeah? Because

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:41.839
<v Speaker 1>someone's likely moving up from the third yeah, second, Yeah,

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:43.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna give you what a fourth and a sixth? You

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:46.320
<v Speaker 1>know you got colts behind you. Maybe that's where the

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Chargers are looking for that quarterback. I mean, I think

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you're almost better unless someone blows you away with you know,

0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a future three. I don't know. I'm staying there fifty

0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:58.319
<v Speaker 1>eight and picking and not risking trading back and then

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:01.919
<v Speaker 1>another getting wiped out again from this the next tier

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:04.520
<v Speaker 1>of players whoever that, Yeah, I wouldn't want to trade

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 1>down more than six or seven spots, and that's not

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:09.719
<v Speaker 1>going to fetch you this crazy well, and this might

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.399
<v Speaker 1>be your this might be your avenue because think about this.

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:15.360
<v Speaker 1>If you look at the picks behind the Cowboys, Kansas

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 1>City's at I believe Kansas Cy' is at two sixty one.

0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:21.319
<v Speaker 1>This would be their first pick of the draft because

0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:24.480
<v Speaker 1>they don't have a one. New Orleans is at two

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:27.560
<v Speaker 1>sixty two. This would be their first pick of the draft.

0:55:27.600 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 1>If I'm not mistaken, They're gonna come up and get

0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 1>debot from us, So give us. That's the same. You've

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:34.319
<v Speaker 1>got some teams that might be willing to come up

0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and give you something, and it's only going down three spots,

0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>four spots. Okay, is it worth a fifth round pick? Yeah,

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'd move three spots for a fifth. It

0:55:43.360 --> 0:55:45.359
<v Speaker 1>just depends who's there, I guess, yeah, yeah, I mean

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:47.560
<v Speaker 1>if a guy I love is there. But again, you know,

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:50.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't think this team will draft Deebo Samuel correct

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:52.560
<v Speaker 1>if the Saints are hell bent that Debo is going

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to be their slot guy to pair with Mike Thomas

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.279
<v Speaker 1>for the next five years, come up, give me a fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a fifth. I'll do that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know one of the guys you like will stay

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<v Speaker 1>there six. I'm sorry you don't on the sick well

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<v Speaker 1>even better, so you have two fits, two fours, two five.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's somebody at fifty eight that you just don't

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:11.479
<v Speaker 1>want to lose, I'm not trading right, it just I'm

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 1>talking about a scenario where you're not in love with

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:16.120
<v Speaker 1>any and you're like, well, sure, Tristan Hill will still

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<v Speaker 1>be there at sixty one, and we can add an

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<v Speaker 1>extra pick. Yeah, gave the teams behind you at fifty

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<v Speaker 1>nine is the Colts sixty the Chargers. Chargers are always

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<v Speaker 1>a team that kind of takes a guy away from me.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't they You just make that up. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no teams no no. I the charges older, the criminal

0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>teams they took, they took. It took my safety that

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted from Florida State. Remember Derwin. Yeah, yeah, they wouldn't. Yeah,

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:40.160
<v Speaker 1>they would, They would have drafted Layton anyway. That's I

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<v Speaker 1>made my piece with the Darwin James thing when I

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:44.400
<v Speaker 1>realized that Layton was going to be the pick no

0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:46.959
<v Speaker 1>matter who was there, which hard to blame him. Dude

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<v Speaker 1>went through the Pro Bowl real quick. If I could

0:56:48.719 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 1>go through some medical information real quick. Uh, you talked

0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:55.799
<v Speaker 1>about Hollywood Brown that Liz Frank surgery. Doctor Anderson did

0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:57.919
<v Speaker 1>the surgery there and he's one of the top three

0:56:57.960 --> 0:57:00.360
<v Speaker 1>in the country. I've been told. So that's all doing well.

0:57:00.400 --> 0:57:03.040
<v Speaker 1>These are all from the rechecks. Jalen heard had a

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<v Speaker 1>meniscus scope. There's not a concern there, so it just

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:07.800
<v Speaker 1>needs a little bit more time to work out to

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of help that need. Montes sweat, Okay, we heard

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot about that. It's a condition called the acronym

0:57:14.080 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 1>is ho c M. Look it up. It's something to

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:20.680
<v Speaker 1>do with a measurement of a heart. And so again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to know a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 1>Smart Montes sweat the condition again is h O c M.

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<v Speaker 1>Check it out. You'll learn a lot about that. Christian

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Miller had some problems with his hip, more hip than hamstring.

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a guy that the Cowboys brought in. Your guy

0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 1>to vay the the safety Jolanni TVI from Hawaii had

0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:45.439
<v Speaker 1>a shoulder to grade three sprain. They fixed it. There's

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 1>no concern. They're very similar what Troy Aitman had in

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<v Speaker 1>two and nineteen ninety, so keep an eye on that.

0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:58.560
<v Speaker 1>We talked about the hip flexer condition with Taylor Rapp Thompson,

0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the safety from from UH Alabama. There's there's there's a

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>little concerns. There's starting to be some whispers about maybe

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:10.480
<v Speaker 1>a knee problem. There more a knee problem than the risk.

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:12.960
<v Speaker 1>The right risk is what we talked about the process,

0:58:13.000 --> 0:58:16.400
<v Speaker 1>because that's that's what's been hinting that there was something

0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>else to hold the teams. The teams. I talked to

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:23.280
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of teams. It said, hey, maybe a knee

0:58:23.280 --> 0:58:25.680
<v Speaker 1>problem there, so Thompson, So if you see some guys

0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:30.320
<v Speaker 1>start sliding. We've talked about about Gary with the laborum

0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 1>that needs to be fixed. This is a labor um

0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:35.360
<v Speaker 1>they'll likely wear out. That's gonna be interesting tonight. Where

0:58:35.440 --> 0:58:38.240
<v Speaker 1>does Rashaan gary fall absolutely bless you over there, lens

0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 1>uh Madcalf. I didn't know this about dk Madcalf. He

0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 1>had a fused neck. Yeah, that's why, and it's it's

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:48.680
<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, it's a it's a lower it's a lower fusion,

0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:52.920
<v Speaker 1>which is a better fusion. So he should be okay there. Uh.

0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:56.480
<v Speaker 1>We talked about Dexter Lawrence had something I didn't know this.

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.520
<v Speaker 1>He had a Jones fracture in his foot and then

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:02.720
<v Speaker 1>he's got ankle issues. He got drop foot. Yeah, you know,

0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:06.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of similar role he got. Similar So Dexter Lawrence,

0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the defensive tackle from Clemson. It sounds like that would

0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 1>push you down the board. But he's okay. But you say,

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:14.120
<v Speaker 1>it's okay, it's come back. It's a nerve. They were

0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 1>fixing his ankle and they pinched off his nerve and

0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:19.520
<v Speaker 1>it gave him drop foot. It was a sophomore year. Yeah,

0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 1>so he came back his junior year and played at

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>not one hundred percent, but yeah, he's worked his way back.

0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:28.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's another one. Dexter Lawrence is gonna be fascinating

0:59:28.000 --> 0:59:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and see where he falls. And then also Emmanuel Hall

0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 1>played all season with the growing injury another Cowboys. You

0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:36.560
<v Speaker 1>have to manage him though. But you were talking about

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:39.240
<v Speaker 1>a track mentality. I talked to some teams. I kind

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:41.960
<v Speaker 1>of brought that up. The team said, no, they didn't

0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 1>get the feeling that he had that track mentality that

0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:46.360
<v Speaker 1>he was willing to do. So we'll see. There's some

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:49.240
<v Speaker 1>player people at Missouri they say that. Okay, Well, there's

0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>the trainers I talked to are the same maybe, but

0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Missouri knows the kid. They lived with him. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the last one I want to talk about before we

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here is Polite, the defensive end from Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some shoulder concerns there as else. Yeah, it might

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<v Speaker 1>need some it might be some potential problems there. So

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<v Speaker 1>those are some names of guys that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on. If you see them start to slide,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of have an idea why that is good info. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate everybody out there. We're gonna do this tonight at

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