1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody, I'm Dan Horden. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: Thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth podcast. The Just the 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: two of Us addition featuring a very special conversation with 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: rookie wide receiver Jermaine Burton and his mentor, former Bengals 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: pro bowler TJ. Hushman Zada. The Bengals Booth Podcast is 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: brought to you by pay Core, Proud to be the 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Bengals official HR software provider, by Alta Fiber future proof 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business and community 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: to a new level, and by Kettering Health the best 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: care for the best fans. 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Now, let's get to football. 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: For several years now, the NFL has had former players 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: announce picks during the NFL Draft in an effort to 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: connect the game's legends with the next generation of stars. 35 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: This year, Barry Sanders, Warren Moon, and Jim Plunkett were 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: among the all time greats on the stage, and when 37 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: the Bengals were on the clock in the third round, 38 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: former Pro Bowl wide receiver TJ. Hushman Zada stepped to 39 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: the mic. 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: So this pick means This pick means something to me 41 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: as I've been training this kid for a long time 42 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: and now he's going to be drafted by the Bingles. 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: So with the eightieth pig in a twenty twenty four. 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 3: NFL draft, the Cincinnati Bingles select Jermaine Burton, wide receiver Alabama. 45 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: That night, it struck me as a remarkable coincidence that 46 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: the Bengals selected a player that Hushman Zada had been 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: working with for four years, but it wasn't really a coincidence. 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: Before the draft, TJ was among several people that the 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: Bengals reached out to to learn more about Burton. Nobody 50 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: questions Jermaine's talent, but there were some questions about his 51 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: Adamude and Hushman's out to help convince the Bengals that 52 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: Burton will thrive in Cincinnati. I think you'll feel the 53 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: same way after listening to the conversation that I had 54 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: with the two of them. 55 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: DJ. 56 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: Let's go back to draft night. You're waiting in the 57 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: wings to announce the Bengals third round pick. Somebody hands 58 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: you a card and you see the name Jermaine Burton, 59 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: this guy you've worked with for the last four years. 60 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: What was your reaction. 61 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: I was shot, man, I was shot because you don't 62 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: expect any of that to happen. And so when I 63 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: saw the name, I look at the car and I'm like, wait, wait, wait, 64 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: ain't no way. And so I was backstage and I 65 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: actually got video of it, me and Me and May 66 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: got on FaceTime when I was backstage, and literally as 67 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: I'm getting ready to walk out, I'm like, I'm gonna 68 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: call you after I gotta go announce it. 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: Like it literally went that way. 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: And it's good though, because I I've known Maine. I 71 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: actually met him when he he was at Calabasas Hogh, 72 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: but we didn't really know each other. 73 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: We met, but I didn't really know him. He didn't 74 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: know me. 75 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: Then he came out when he was with Georgia worked 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: with me a day or so, didn't really know him 77 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: either then. And then it was a couple of years 78 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: ago where we really like honed in and spent a 79 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: lot of time together and like I got to know Maine. 80 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: A lot, not not from a just as a person 81 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: and as a man. You know, it's a time. 82 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't have conversations of things outside of football. 83 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: So when I saw that, I was happy for him 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: because we had to talk prior to the draft. You know, 85 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter where you go, it's what you do 86 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: when you get there. 87 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: And Maine has a Maine is the first round talent, 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: and everybody know that. 89 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 3: He know that he's the first round talent, and so 90 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: if he plays up to his ability and his talent, 91 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: the Bengals got a steal for sure. But yeah, when 92 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: I saw his name, was shocked. Man, I couldn't believe it. 93 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: So Jermaine, let me go back to the timeline. Before 94 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: the rest of us saw TJ on TV announce the pick, 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: you had received the phone call from the Bengals and 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: face timed him right. 97 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: Mm hmm, that's where life went down. Yeah. No, so 98 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: I got the call and then TJ called me. 99 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: I got video. 100 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: I got video, like somebody from the NFL actually recorded. 101 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: Me talking to him and he sent me that video. 102 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: It's pretty like it's a pretty neat behind the scenes 103 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: type of thing because he recorded it. 104 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was crazy. 105 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, they had they gave me the call and 106 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 5: to be to be like, to be completely honest, of 107 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 5: I wasn't even in the room with the rest of 108 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 5: my family and friends. I was actually sitting Uh. I 109 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 5: was actually sitting in the other room on the bed 110 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 5: alone and I was just thinking to myself because I 111 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 5: was just saying I was slipping, and it was just 112 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 5: me like so much reality was hitting me at once, 113 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 5: and I was like, this draft process is real, deal 114 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 5: like and so all. 115 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 4: I could just think is just that, like, bro, like 116 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 4: what Like? 117 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: I didn't know what was going on because I know 118 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 5: my telling, I know myself, and I know who I 119 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 5: am as a person. So when I was just when 120 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 5: I was just slipping and you know, I'm seeing a 121 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 5: lot of other guys go before me, it was just 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 5: it was sparking a lot of hunger in me, honestly. 123 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 5: So at that point, after past that second, past all 124 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 5: that stuff, I didn't care if I went four, fifth, sixth, 125 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 5: I didn't care anymore. I just wanted a team to 126 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 5: call me. And so yeah, when I was just sitting down, 127 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: I looked at the I remember, before I got off 128 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 5: and went into the room, I looked at the next 129 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 5: few picks. It said something like Denver this this it 130 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 5: was like three. I didn't I didn't see the Bengals 131 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 5: coming up. So I'm sitting in the room and I'm 132 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 5: just sitting I'm like, man, like, bro, what I'm like, Bro, 133 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 5: I'm like I thought this always all about talent, Like. 134 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, what they what they got going on? 135 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 5: Like I'm just sitting there this just mad at myself, 136 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 5: like and out of nowhere. I just a I see 137 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 5: the Cincinnati, Ohio number called me and I'm like what. 138 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, Bingles got a pick coming up? Like 139 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, hold on, bro. 140 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 5: Like so I sat up straight and I answered the 141 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 5: phone and it was Zach Taylor and I was just 142 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 5: sitting there and I'm just like, oh my God, like 143 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 5: I'm like bet so. 144 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is where I'm at. You feel me. 145 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 5: I honestly feel like I couldn't have went into a 146 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 5: better position. I just think it's crazy how God really 147 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 5: works out things. And I don't care what pick I 148 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 5: could have been anywhere first second or anything. I feel 149 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 5: like if I would have known I was going to 150 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 5: this team right here at that pick, I would have 151 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 5: picked that from the jump, and especially after, you know, 152 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 5: knowing what I know now and being here and knowing 153 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 5: how this you know, team really operates an organization as 154 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 5: a whole. So yeah, this I can't even explain what 155 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 5: like how this situation is for me. 156 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: I'm blessed and you know, I wouldn't rather be nowhere 157 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: else PJ. 158 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: Hearing him describe that weight, did that sound familiar? Obviously 159 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: you had to wait even longer. 160 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: It's frustrating. But at the end of it doesn't matter, man, 161 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: Like it don't. 162 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: There's gonna be some guys that were drafted in the 163 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: first round that can't play. 164 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: We all know that second round the same. 165 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 3: But it's gonna be some guys drafted after Maine that 166 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: everybody's gonna say, why didn't he get drafted higher? It's 167 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: an inexact science. Jermaine's in the perfect spot. You would 168 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: a quarterback that's one of the best in the league. 169 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: You would you would a group of offensive coaches and 170 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: Zach Taylor and picture that they understand how to put 171 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: guys in positions to be successful. And so it's on 172 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: you now, and so it's on Maine to make sure 173 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: he's in a type of shape he understands the offense. 174 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: And it was crazy because after he got drafted, we 175 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: get on the field and uh, I was shocked, Like 176 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: we going through fourmations. I'm yelling at the fourmations and 177 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: he just lining up. 178 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: Like bow bow bow. I'm like, damn, you know this. 179 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: Already like, and so he was locked in as soon 180 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 3: as they drafted and they sent him the playbook and 181 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: no lock. We got on the field and he was 182 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 3: able to line himself up and he had just got 183 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: the playbook. So I said, okay, it means something like that. 184 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 3: That right there showed me he was investing in himself. 185 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 3: And so all he gotta do is make the plays. 186 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 3: You got the quarterback, you got other receivers and Jamar 187 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: and t that's gonna take a ton of attention. And like, 188 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: when y'all see this boy on this boy is born 189 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: to play. 190 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: He's way faster than the forty times that he ran. 191 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: I don't know what he was thinking and what he 192 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: was doing, but he's so explosive, he's big and so 193 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: like he's one of the top receivers in the country 194 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: coming out of high school. He was one of the 195 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: top receivers in the country in college. When you look 196 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: at his yards per catch, to me, it's where you go. 197 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 3: And if you can go play with Joe Burrow, I 198 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: would walk from Cincinnati to California if I could do that, 199 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: or vice versas California. If I can't, Joe Burrow gonna 200 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 3: be my quarterback. Well, let me get this backpack and 201 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: some water. I'm gonna go ahead and hit this freeway walking. 202 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 3: That's that's how much I would want to play with Joe. 203 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, and let alone and let alone, you know, despite 204 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 5: the fact that you've been playing with Joe in a 205 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 5: side guys like t and Jamar Like like when I 206 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 5: tell you, this entire team is like, Bro, that's so it. 207 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: Bro, this whole team is amazing. 208 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 5: Like every person I met, every VET I met, was 209 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 5: completely just welcoming and you know, just was just instantly 210 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 5: just took me in and was like you know what's good, 211 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 5: like we know, we happy. 212 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: To have you this worklet's this, this that, And you. 213 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 5: Know, honestly, I didn't expect that, like cause you know, 214 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 5: going into the league, you go, you know, you expect 215 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 5: some bets to like try to like on some freshman 216 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 5: freshman you're a college type deal like, and it was. 217 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: Like, Bro, it was the complete opposite. 218 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 5: Like so I've got nothing but complete different vibes from everybody. 219 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 5: So I'm actually I'm cool with some vets. Now, you know, 220 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 5: we've to change numbers. We've talked about some certain things, 221 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 5: and Bro, I didn't expect that not one bit at all. 222 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: I'm expecting some Vest to even just walk by like yeah, 223 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, but I ain't get none of that. 224 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 5: I'm walking by Vest, I'm like he not, he not, 225 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 5: He's not finna say nothing. It was good little bro 226 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 5: like this and that this, and that you need anything, 227 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 5: holler at me. I'm like what, I'm like that, like okay, cool, 228 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 5: so bro, everything and stuff like that. 229 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: Because the more comfortable I am with. 230 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 5: My team bro, the more comfortable I am playing so 231 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 5: and especially after knowing everybody's ways, so I feel like 232 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 5: it's different from when you want to feel with these guys. 233 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 5: When you get to know their why too, and why 234 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 5: they're playing and what their motive is, you know, it's 235 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 5: a it's a different feeling because. 236 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: Now you know why they're playing. 237 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 5: Now you know that you got to stay on them too, 238 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 5: because now you know their situation. So now you know 239 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 5: that whatever this going on, this going on, they came 240 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 5: from this, they came from that. So now you know 241 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 5: that you can push them from a certain limit now 242 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 5: instead of just being like okay, that's just my teammate, 243 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: like cool, Like now I know your why, So even 244 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 5: if I see you slipping up or even if I 245 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 5: see you not this this and that, I can get 246 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 5: on you because I know your motive now and it's 247 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 5: like I know how bad you want this and I 248 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 5: know how bad. 249 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: You need it. 250 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 5: So it's it's a complete difference in that and that 251 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 5: makes a big difference for me as well. 252 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 4: So I just I've connected with this team on in ways. 253 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 5: I didn't think I was going to at a at 254 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 5: so early, and you know, even though it's still so early, 255 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 5: but you know, this is exactly the path I visioned 256 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 5: I wanted to take, but I just didn't expect it. 257 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: So, Uh, everything's great, PJ. 258 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: When you announced the pick, you said, this pick means 259 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: something to me. Are you invested in his success in Cincinnati? 260 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: He knows that. 261 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: Like listen, me and Maine have had conversations, like prior 262 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: to the dread, Like I had a couple people call 263 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: me and say, listen, I know you training your Maine. Uh, 264 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: this is what we've heard and I'm not going to 265 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: go into the team and I'm not going to go 266 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: into what was what was said to me. And we 267 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: had a conversation with this team. I did, and I 268 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: kind of told him who I believe Jermaine and is 269 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 3: a person and what they were saying, whether it was 270 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: right or wrong, And so I told Mayine this, like, listen, 271 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: you know, you write your own story. People can say 272 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: this Orda, You write your own story. And you know, 273 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: at times the conversation wasn't a smooth conversation because Jermaine's 274 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: a man and I'm a man, and you know we 275 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: may disagree at times. 276 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: It's always gonna. 277 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: Remain respectful, but you know, the tone made raise here 278 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: or there, and we had a conversation. And so when 279 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: I said that, it meant something because we had just 280 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 3: had this conversation about what people perceive you to be, 281 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: whether you agree with him or not. Perception is reality, 282 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: but you can change that perception and I'm gonna try 283 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: to help you change that perception. 284 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: And for now to for it to. 285 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: Be with the Bengals, it was like, well, this is 286 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: even better, and so that probably was it. Like it's 287 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: what like I grew up a Cowboys fan, I'm not 288 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: a Cowboys fan, Like the Bengals are my favorite team 289 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: and that that's who I root for, and so I 290 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 3: can root for the team that I root for it 291 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: now and. 292 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: Really, really really genuinely. 293 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: Want to see Maine succeed because he's with a team 294 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: that I root for and I'm personally knowing. 295 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: So it's no secret some of the things that were 296 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: out there before the draft temperamental, maybe some maturity issues, 297 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: things along those lines. Have you specifically tried to help 298 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: Jermaine with that stuff? 299 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: We talk about like, aren't we all temperamental? Really, let's 300 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: just be honest. Everybody's temperamental. Who was just even killed 301 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: at all times? And so I don't I want an 302 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: athlete that doesn't care. Can we harness you know that? 303 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: Can we control that? If you can play sports at 304 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: a high level, at some point in time, you have 305 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: to be able to control yourself. So he can do that. 306 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: And so I want somebody that cares. I want somebody 307 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: when things aren't going the way they anticipate them to go, 308 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: I want them to I wanted to bother you. Now 309 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: you can't let it control you, but it should bother you. 310 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: And so I didn't see that with him. And when 311 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: I train guys, I talked to him crazy. I don't 312 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: disrespect him, but I kind of talked to him kind 313 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: of crazy. 314 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: Again, He's never never approached me that way, and so 315 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: it was. 316 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: When teams do that, it's kind of disheartening because you 317 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: you you are affecting somebody's future. 318 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: If you don't want to draft a kid, just don't 319 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: draft them. But it's funny. 320 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: I met with a team not too long ago, and 321 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: I said, man, it sounds really crazy and it's really. 322 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: Cocky, but it's not. And Maine knows. It's from the guys. 323 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: There's not one guy, not one guy that I trained 324 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: that hasn't gone to the league and done very very well. 325 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: Not just okay, everybody that I've trained has done very 326 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: very well. 327 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: Eventually I'm gonna get that one. But as of now, 328 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: I'm bad in a thousand and it's really about me. 329 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: It's the kids that I'm training are just so good 330 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: they make me look good. 331 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: So, Jermaine, if my math is correct, you were six 332 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: years old when TJ set the Bengals record for most 333 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: catches in a season and went to the Pro Bowl 334 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: one hundred and twelve catches in one season. Did you 335 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: know anything about his career when you two guys started 336 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: working together. 337 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew. I knew. 338 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 5: I knew quite a lot because you know him and 339 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 5: Oho two really great receivers, and you know, it. 340 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: Was so much online about everything. 341 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 5: I used to see so many kind of videos and 342 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 5: all kinds of stuff from practice to gain film and 343 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 5: to interviews and even after I got training with him 344 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 5: and stuff like that, Like I go home sometimes and 345 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 5: I even look up some stuff like I want us, 346 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 5: I want to know more and see more. And it 347 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 5: was just funny because after everything I'm like looking up 348 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 5: and after seeing the kind of player that he was, 349 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 5: it just matched up with him so perfectly. I was like, Bro, 350 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 5: everything I'm seeing right now just matches him. And it 351 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 5: was just funny to see because when you're working out 352 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 5: with TJ, you know, he you know, when we're just training, 353 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 5: we're not just everything. 354 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 4: It's not always just football. 355 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 5: You know, it's not always just just oh, we're not 356 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 5: just doing straight drills, just straight drills, just straight drills. 357 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: You know. 358 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 5: In between that, you know, we tend to take about 359 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 5: five to ten minutes and we'll we'll talk real life sometimes, 360 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 5: and you know, it's always good. You know, hear coming 361 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 5: from TJ. Because TJ's been through a lot and he 362 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 5: knows a lot. He knows a lot of people, so 363 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 5: it's always some knowledge that TJ drops on you uh, 364 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 5: other than football when training with him. So and it's 365 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 5: a lot of stuff that we have shared and told 366 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 5: tweet and like. 367 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 4: You know, spoke on. 368 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 5: But I'll lead that to the exclusiveness of just knowing TJ, 369 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 5: because that's just you know, that's just how he is. 370 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 5: And so it's a lot of stuff that you know, 371 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 5: he's put me on Game two and told me and 372 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 5: this and this and that that I never shared because, 373 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 5: like I said, I just leave that up to this 374 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 5: exclusiveness of knowing him and training with him. So you know, 375 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 5: everything is just appreciated from him, and you know, we 376 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 5: still have a lot of work to put in, tons 377 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 5: of work to put in. And you know, it was 378 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 5: really just a connection from the jump because I really 379 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 5: noticed that TJ really cared about you know, what was 380 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 5: even being said and all the like, like how he said, 381 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 5: how we had those conversations and how he did come 382 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 5: to me. 383 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: And I still. 384 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 5: Remember that day, you know, when I came there and 385 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 5: he was, you know, telling me what was being told 386 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 5: about me and you know, everything and what was being 387 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 5: shared and he and the next thing. 388 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 4: He said after that was I'm going to help you 389 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 4: fix that and like literally just like that. 390 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 5: And you know, we had another conversation after that, and 391 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 5: that conversation really went far with me because it hit 392 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 5: me differently because you you know how connected well connected 393 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 5: TJ is. So when he's telling you something like this, 394 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 5: regardless you like it or not, it's true. So regardless 395 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: of how I felt about it, and regardless of what 396 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 5: what what was being said, it was one hundred true. 397 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 5: So I sat there and I was like, you know what, 398 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 5: I'm finna just bro, I'm taking everything in. I'm finna 399 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 5: listen to exactly what he's saying, and I'm gonna see 400 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 5: where it takes me. And it changed me a lot. 401 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 5: And you know, like I said, every like that's that's appreciated. 402 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 5: And you know, I'm blessed to even work with TJ 403 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 5: and to know him and have a relationship with him. 404 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: And you know, this is a good. 405 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: Work that day, man, because it was what was you 406 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: it was it was wrong. Yeah, we had it was 407 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: a good work out that day, by the way. 408 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 4: It was a good work out. 409 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 5: So we put it out yoh yeah, but it's always 410 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 5: good work man. 411 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 4: But yeah, dude, that that that that that that. 412 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: Day specifically meant a lot to me because that was 413 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: the day that, you know, because after he told me 414 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 5: all of that, his next words was, I'm gonna help 415 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 5: you fix that. 416 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: Like we don't fix that like, and you know, that's 417 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: exactly what happened. So it's all good. 418 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: I can hear in your voice that you appreciate somebody 419 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 2: who shoots you straight mm hm. You don't want somebody 420 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: to shutarcoat things, right, Yeah. 421 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 4: No, especially especially in the manner of this is what 422 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 4: it is. Boom boom boom boom boom. 423 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 5: Now we're fixing it, not this, you know, uh nah famn, 424 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 5: this is what's being said. This is what we're doing 425 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 5: to fix it, like and that was just that. And 426 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 5: that's how TJ is with everything he talks about, Like, 427 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 5: he shoots it straight to you, and you know, it 428 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: makes it easy regardless if you like it or not. 429 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: And I feel like the part that really helps you 430 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 4: more is how he shoots it to you. 431 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 5: Because a lot of people could bring something to you 432 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 5: and they could say it and go around this curve 433 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 5: and about how they do it. With TJ, it hits 434 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 5: you differently because of how straight up, how straight up 435 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 5: it is, so that it strikes you more and it's 436 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 5: like it makes you think about it more. It doesn't 437 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: make you think about like I still okay, it's all good, 438 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 5: Like it's not that bad. Like nah, it's like, bro, 439 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 5: this is what's being said, like this is your future, 440 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 5: this is your career, Like do. 441 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: You want to be looked at as this? Do you 442 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 4: want this? 443 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: Like? 444 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 5: Okay, so now we got to change this, like and 445 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 5: you know that that was the moment where I really 446 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 5: accepted at the fact that what was being told and 447 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 5: what was being said about me, it might not have 448 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 5: been true to like to myself, but at the end 449 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 5: of the day, if this is how people view you, 450 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 5: this is what you're gonna be viewed as. 451 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 4: So regardless of if I was like, man, it's not you. 452 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: I don't care, that's not me. That's not me. Bro, 453 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: it's like, fam, Like what are you just gonna do 454 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: to fix it? 455 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 5: So you know something, it is a bullet you gotta 456 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 5: bite and you know, change it regardless if it's not, 457 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 5: if it's true or not. And that was that's that 458 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 5: was a maturean step I took, uh because you know, 459 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 5: like I said, no matter what you just perception is 460 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 5: the reality. 461 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: More With TJ and Germaine in a moment. But first, 462 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: here's a quick reminder that the Bengals Booth podcast is 463 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: brought to you by pay Core, proud to be the 464 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: Bengals official HR software provider, by Alta Fiber future proof 465 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business and community 466 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: to a new level, and by Kettering Health the best 467 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: Care for the best fans. Kettering Health is the official 468 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: healthcare provider of the Bengals. TJ I told Jermaine recently 469 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: that when I watched his college film, he reminded me 470 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: of former Panthers and Ravens wide receiver Steve Smith. The 471 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 2: physicality when the balls in the air, it belongs to him. 472 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: The toughness. Do you like it or is there a 473 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: better comp that's you know, I. 474 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 3: Mean Steve is a little more compact. Mains is a 475 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: lot taller than than Steve, a lot taller. But the toughness, yeah, 476 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: you know, because Steve ain't no punking Steve at all, 477 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 3: and then you ain't punking Maine either, And so the 478 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 3: the personality aspect of it, yes, the explosiveness, yes, it's. 479 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: Really hard to like. 480 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 3: Receivers are better man like when when you try to 481 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 3: start comparing receivers to of today to receivers back back 482 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: in the day. 483 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: The receivers are just better. 484 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: They're they're they're bigger, they're faster, they're better route runners 485 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: or quicker, they know more, and so it's hard to 486 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: really compare. Now you can the physical traits, yeah, the explosiveness, yes, 487 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: I can see that. The the the personality of when 488 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 3: the game starts, I'm gonna talk my and it don't 489 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: matter if you want to talk back. 490 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: Then it is what it is. But I'm not I'm 491 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: not backing down for sure. 492 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: And so that perspective of it with him and Steve 493 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: and explosive it is. Yeah, we're out running a little 494 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: different just because of the body types. 495 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 4: Right. 496 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: But as I'm saying this, I'm actually trying to think 497 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: of who I could compare Jermaine. To give me some time, 498 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 3: and it's gonna take some time for me to kind. 499 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: Of figure that one out. 500 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: It'll come to you at some point. I want to 501 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: circle back to what you were saying earlier, TJ about 502 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: Jermaine having the opportunity to begin his career with Joe 503 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: Burrow as his quarterback. Jamar Chas and T. Higgins also 504 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: part of the wide receiver crew. Your breakout season in 505 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: the NFL was your fourth year when Carson Palmer got 506 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 2: his chance to be the starting quarterback. Suddenly, you know, 507 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: your stats jumped through the roof. Do we underestimate the 508 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: impact of you know, having to have a guy like 509 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: that for a wide receiver to take off. 510 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think is mutually beneficial both When I 511 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: go back to. 512 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: My career, I was hurt a lot my first three 513 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: years in the league. Hamstring and groins my first three years. 514 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: And then Marvin was like, you get hurt again. He 515 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: didn't say it in these words, but basically, you get 516 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: hurt again, your ass is gone. And so I had 517 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: to figure something out and it just so happened to 518 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: coincide that I got Peter Ward broke he broke his leg, 519 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: and when Doug broke his leg, I got an opportunity 520 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: to play and the rest is history. 521 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: But a quarterback, it helps. But to me, football is 522 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: a ultimate team game. When you have. 523 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: Eleven guys and then everybody's relying on each other, you 524 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 3: have to have everybody doing their job at a high level. 525 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: If it doesn't if the old line don't block, doesn't 526 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 3: matter who the quarterback in the receiver r No, if 527 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 3: I dropped the ball, doesn't. 528 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: Matter that the old line block. 529 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: Well, you know, if I'm open, the quarterback makes a 530 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: bad throw or he makes a great throw on it. 531 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: I mean everything that has to work perfectly in a 532 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 3: game of football just to have a successful play. 533 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: And you want to do that snap after snap after snap. 534 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: And so. 535 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 3: Between Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen you can mix 536 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 3: and match. Ever, those are the top three quarterbacks in 537 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: the league. If you can go into the league with 538 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: one of those three is your quarterback, you're winning. You're 539 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 3: a winning And so for Jamaine, he has a chance 540 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: to change his family's fortune through the game of football, 541 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: and he has a head start, a bigger head start 542 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 3: than a lot of others, because you got Joe as 543 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: your quarterback. And so my job to help him is 544 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: to maximize that because the game of football is going 545 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: to enable him to put his family in a position 546 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: they've never been in. And I'm gonna be on his 547 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 3: ass to make sure he don't pick that up. 548 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 2: So, Jermaine, I've noticed in the first few practices that 549 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: we've been allowed to watch, when the quarter come out 550 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: to warm up, the four quarterbacks are off to the 551 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: side before the team stretches. Even you always catch Joe 552 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: Burrow's passes, his idea, your idea. How did that come about? 553 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 2: And is there something to it? 554 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 5: Honestly, it's kind of funny because usually we'll go out there, 555 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 5: the rookies will go out there, and we'll put through 556 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 5: like a few drills before the rest of the guys 557 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 5: come out. So I noticed that on a certain time. 558 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 5: So we get out there at ten point fifty. I 559 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: still don't know the exact time Joe and the other 560 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 5: quarterbacks come out, but I know it's around the time 561 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 5: that when we finish these drills, about like three to 562 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 5: five minutes later, the quarterbacks are walking out and they 563 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 5: start warming up. 564 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 4: So I was like, Bro, every time I see none 565 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 4: walk on the field, I'm warming up with. 566 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 5: I was I'm the one that's catching this back and bro, 567 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 5: because the ones that was catching the passes. 568 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 4: With the equipment guys. So I'm like, and you know, 569 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 4: the equipment guys will put on glosondo stand right and now. 570 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,239 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, I'm I'm like, bro, hold on, let me, 571 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 5: I got let me get I got that. 572 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 4: I got you gay like I got it. So yeah, 573 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: I made it. I made it, you know, as standard 574 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 4: to myself. 575 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 5: As soon as I see nine steps on the field, 576 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 5: the warm up, I warm up with him. 577 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: When you hear that, TJ, what do you think. 578 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: Smart, Hey, you want that quarterback to feel comfortable throwing 579 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: you the ball. 580 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's very simple. 581 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: And so the sooner you can get that that feeling 582 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: of comfort and that that trust, it's more of a trusting. 583 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is with with Jamar and t 584 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: not being there you. 585 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: Used to, You're gonna build up trust a lot, a 586 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: lot faster than you normally would. And so for his talent, 587 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: gonna his talent is gonna carry it. You see that, 588 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: you see the exposion as you see the size. Now 589 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: it's building the trust of the quarterback, of the coaches, 590 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 3: and your and everybody else, your teammates. Once you start 591 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: to do that, now we're starting to run downhill instead 592 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: of working up here. 593 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: Jermaine, I'm glad you mentioned coming out early because I've 594 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: noticed that as well. It's you and Cale Burgess, undrafted 595 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: wide receiver from Sunny Cortland where Dan Pitcher went to college. 596 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: You two guys are out early every single time with 597 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: the wide receivers coach Troy Walters, it looks like working 598 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: on your releases. Is that what you're getting extra work on? 599 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah. Also I look at it, it's more more 600 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 4: of a warm up. You know, I'm a rookie. 601 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 5: Uh, I want to go into every practice already ready. 602 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 5: I want to go into every practice like as soon 603 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 5: as something happens, I'm just. 604 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: Ready to go. I'm just ready to go. So, yeah, 605 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: we work on releases. 606 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, we work on this, We work on that, We 607 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 5: work on some catching, but more so the fact I 608 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 5: just really to me, it's just more of the move around, 609 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 5: move around before we actually start practice, because whenever practice 610 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 5: do start, I don't want to make it look like 611 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 5: I'm starting like. I don't want to make it look 612 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 5: like I'm just now starting like. I want to make 613 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 5: it seem like I'm already, like I'm I've been moving 614 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 5: like so when. 615 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 4: We're doing whatever and whatever, like you know, I just 616 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: want to be. 617 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 5: Ready to go at all times, and I just want 618 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 5: to show them that, you know, I'm just a guy 619 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 5: that's ready to go, you know, from a from a 620 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 5: energy standpoint, from a from a just mindset, standpoint. 621 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm ready for whatever. 622 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 5: So you know that's why I'm able to just hurry 623 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 5: up and just go over there as soon as Joe 624 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 5: comes out and just catch passes from him, even though 625 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 5: it's like twenty passes or fifteen passes, like, bro, whatever, 626 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 5: how many, how many ever passes he needs the warm 627 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 5: up because sometimes he needs fifteen, sometimes he will get twenty, 628 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 5: like so whatever, I don't care, I need it all. 629 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 5: It don't matter if this soft love five yard pass 630 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 5: is like, Bro, you see me right here, we're good like, 631 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 5: and I'll just throw it back and that's just how 632 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 5: it goes. So uh and that has kind of actually 633 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 5: built a better connection between me and him because you know, 634 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 5: it's we've exchanged words in between those moments, but uh, 635 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 5: you know yeah, and I feel like day by day, 636 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: you know, I feel like he's gotten more comfortable with 637 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 5: explaining stuff to me. You know, the first few days 638 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 5: it was just you know, us getting a feel of 639 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 5: through me running routes and through how he how he throws. 640 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 5: Now is okay on this route if you get a 641 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 5: man right here, if you get man on this play, 642 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 5: try to wrap him before you break out, Like now, 643 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 5: it's becoming that. And rather than let me see how 644 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 5: this dude runs routes and let me see how I 645 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 5: can throw to him, or let me see how he 646 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 5: throws the ball, is we. 647 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 4: Got that, I know how, I know how he likes 648 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: to throw the ball. 649 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 5: Now I know how what kind of quarterback he is 650 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 5: now is so now that we got that feel out 651 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 5: the way now is all right? Now we're into the 652 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 5: playbook standpoint of how he likes stuff and how he 653 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 5: does things. And he's a real detailed quarterback and a 654 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 5: timing quarterback. Joe doesn't need to throw bullet passes because 655 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 5: he's so detailed on timing that from split to depth 656 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 5: to coverages that he's so detailed on timing that the 657 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 5: ball is going to just be there based off time. 658 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 5: And so he could throw it just how he could 659 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 5: throw a perfect ground like just pluckable ball rather than 660 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 5: having it just hurry up and squeeze something and like 661 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 5: some like a bullet if the time it works out, great, 662 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 5: it doesn't have. 663 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 4: To be a bullet pass. 664 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 5: It's just boom goes to his progressive step, step drop 665 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: back whatever, boom And yeah, he's amazing, bro, I'm not 666 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 5: gonna lie. He's a he's he's wired different, and it's 667 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 5: it's it's so, it's crazy, it's crazy. 668 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: I can't. I can't a lie to you. 669 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: A couple more questions before we wrap this up. You've 670 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: had this relationship with TJ now for four years, but 671 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: in recent weeks you've started a formal relationship with Chad 672 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: Johnson as well. Has that added to your feeling of 673 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: connectivity to the Bengals franchise. 674 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was kind of funny because before he came 675 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 5: out to practice the day before, I was on a scooter. 676 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: I went to Kroger because Kroger. 677 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 5: Sat I got like this little chicken in this little 678 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 5: already heated up for you. You can just grab it and 679 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 5: like feel me and go. So I went up there 680 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 5: before bed. 681 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 4: Like it was like seven or something like that. 682 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 5: So I'm like, I'm like, I hopped on a little 683 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 5: bird scooter, went up to the Kroger, and then I'm 684 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 5: on my way back and like, as I'm pulling him 685 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 5: to the hotel, I see him standing by this car. 686 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 4: Who is this? 687 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 5: Like, who did you sitting next to this? Rose Rory 688 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 5: is like, I'm like did He turned around and he. 689 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 4: Was like what's up baby. It was like, you're like 690 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 4: a pleasure man, It's a pleasure to meet you this that. 691 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, it's a. 692 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 5: Pleasure to beat you. Man Like it's good brod he like, 693 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 5: And then we chopped it up. You know, he was 694 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 5: telling me about his soccer tournament. He down here competing 695 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 5: in for a soccer tournament for a million dollars and uh, 696 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 5: you know, he. 697 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 4: Takes soccer real serious. Bro He's He's hilarious. You know. 698 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 5: I thought it was crazy to meet him in person. 699 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 5: He told me he was gonna be at practice the 700 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 5: next day. 701 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 702 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: So I came home. 703 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 5: I made sure I put my jersey in my bag, 704 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 5: and I was like, yeah, they signed him off, so. 705 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 4: But no, yeah it was great. You know. O Jo 706 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 4: hopped in there and did a couple of drills with us, 707 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 4: you know, and yeah, it was great. That practice was amazing. 708 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: You know, that was a I didn't take that for granted. 709 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 5: I was enjoying the moment because I thought that was 710 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 5: that was a moment for me. 711 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: TJ. Did his voice just sound like Chad to you? 712 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: It did to me. 713 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 3: Little bit when when Man got drafted, Chad literally he 714 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 3: called me he was like, so you're training, tell me 715 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 3: about him like he wanted, Like he don't ps. He 716 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 3: called me and was like, tell me about him. So 717 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 3: we actually got on the phone and I was kind 718 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: of telling Chad about Maine, and so I mean, Chad alive. 719 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: This is me. 720 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: Uh, when you think of the Bengals, you think of 721 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 3: a few people. 722 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: The first person you think of is Chad. 723 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 3: When you say the Cincinnati Bengals, everybody is gonna think 724 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 3: Chad first. 725 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:36,959 Speaker 1: And so. 726 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: When I think Cincinnati or anybody says the Bengals, they 727 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: always think Chad. 728 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: I don't call Chad Ocho because I just I can't 729 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: do that. I call other people will refer to him 730 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: as Ocho. But you think Chad, and then you probably 731 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: think me. And so. 732 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 3: That to me when when man got caught, he called 733 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 3: me tell me about it. And so then for Main 734 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: and a meeting, we both gonna try to give him 735 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: all we can give him. I'll spend a lot more 736 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 3: time with Maine and Chad will, but I'm gonna try. 737 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: Like this summer, this is probably gonna be one of 738 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 3: our best summers of training because of what I got planned, 739 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 3: the things that we're gonna do a lot of one 740 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 3: on ones, a lot of seven on seven with a 741 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 3: lot of NFL guys to just make sure we ready 742 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 3: to go and we locked in for when training camp 743 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 3: comes around. 744 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 2: What is your biggest piece of advice for Jermaine for 745 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 2: his rookie year in the NFL. 746 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: Oh, that that's very simple. Man. Effort. We can always 747 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: control that. Always control the effort we give. 748 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: We may not like the results or what comes from it, 749 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 3: but we always give it. 750 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: Are off, we give it, are off, We walk out 751 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: with our heads. Oha. I love it. 752 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: This has been awesome. I really appreciate you guys taking 753 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 2: time to do this with me. I know Bengals fans 754 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: are really going to enjoy it. 755 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: Jermaine. 756 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: We're so excited to have you in Cincinnati being part 757 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 2: of this franchise. And if you have TJ. Hushman Zadat 758 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: stamp of approval, which you obviously do, then we know 759 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals got a great wide receiver in this 760 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 2: year's draft. Yes, sir, take care, guys, Thanks again. 761 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 1: Gonna make it happen. We gonna make it happen. 762 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 3: As soon as Mini camp over with, we gonna get 763 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 3: back to work. So y'all, no worries, Yes, Erski, no care. 764 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: That's going to do it. 765 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: For this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast brought to 766 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 2: you by pay Corps, Proud to be the Bengals Official 767 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: HR software provider, by Alta Fiber future proof fiber Internet 768 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: designed to elevate your home, business and community to a 769 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: new level, and by Kettering Health the best care for 770 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: the best fans. Kettering Health is the official healthcare provider 771 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 2: of the Bengals. 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