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Speaker 2: What's happening? Boys?

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Speaker 3: Thank you for doing this my man?

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Speaker 2: Of course, Man of course.

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Speaker 3: Did you move Tim.

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Speaker 5: About a year ago and bought this place where I'm

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Speaker 5: at right now, which is near Tampa?

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Speaker 6: Did the decorations make it down with you?

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Speaker 3: Or has that I got?

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Speaker 2: I gotta know, I got a great story about that.

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Speaker 2: Yes they did, because that property and Mullig Hill was

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Speaker 2: a good setup for that, right.

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Speaker 5: We had a lot of property, a lot of front

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Speaker 5: area of the house, big yard in the front. This

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Speaker 5: house not as much, so it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 2: We didn't break them out last year because we spent the.

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Speaker 5: Fall in New Jersey because my wife gave birth in November,

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Speaker 5: so we were up there for Halloween.

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Speaker 2: This year, we'll be down here and I took all

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Speaker 2: that stuff down on a.

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Speaker 5: Moving truck and it's in a storage facility off shore,

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Speaker 5: and the day I moved it in, I will never

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Speaker 5: forget it.

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Speaker 2: I'm unloading this truck and.

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Speaker 5: I'm coming off with the hand truck, and I got, like,

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Speaker 5: you know, Jason Bores like stood up on a hand truck.

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Speaker 2: He's coming down.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know how many skeletons I'm unloading. And

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Speaker 5: of course you see all this stuff we have, and

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Speaker 5: there's a couple. There's like a couple probably in their seventies,

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Speaker 5: and they're in their storage unit which is like two

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Speaker 5: down from mine, and they're like going through looking for

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Speaker 2: A lamp that they that they needed to get to

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Speaker 2: the house. And they see this dude going by it.

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Speaker 5: With all this carnage and body parts and just death

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Speaker 5: and horror. And they didn't say anything to me, but

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Speaker 5: every time I went by, they both stopped staring saw

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Speaker 5: what was on my cart, and they just went back

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Speaker 5: about their business. I know that they thought, I have

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Speaker 5: to sell that stuff, Like this guy must be he

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Speaker 5: owned some sort of halloween shop or something, because nobody

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Speaker 5: into a storage facility here near my house, near Tampa,

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Speaker 5: and it will be coming out this year in this

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Speaker 5: neighborhood for the first time. They do not know what's

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Speaker 3: Wow. I love that.

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Speaker 4: They probably think, Hey, new guy down opening up a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, right exactly, or you know it's you think about

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Speaker 5: it came down here. You know, we're still kind of

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Speaker 5: been thinking, Oh, poor guys, Halloween business went out of

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Speaker 6: Did you get a sneak peak? I know you said

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Speaker 5: Big time root awakening? Apparently I've been told by my realtor.

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Speaker 5: I've become pretty good friends with that here. Uh, that

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Speaker 5: they get into it in Tampa, Like Halloween's a big

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Speaker 5: deal in Florida in general, but in this community. But

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Speaker 5: there are a good number of younger kids again in

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Speaker 5: this community, like I first experienced when I moved to

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Speaker 5: the one up in Jersey and I know that those

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Speaker 5: people did not like me a lot for a couple

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Speaker 5: we're gonna we're gonna see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: You're one. Apparently.

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Speaker 5: I also heard there's one house in here that goes

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Speaker 5: And so I'm curious to see if that becomes a

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Speaker 2: We haven't met the ownership.

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Speaker 3: Game on Billy. I like that.

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Speaker 6: I think competition is going to bring the best out

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Speaker 6: of that, you know, because there you may have been

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Speaker 6: I don't want to say it, but there may have

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Speaker 6: been some complacency with you towards the end there in

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Speaker 3: Lazy. Yeah, yeah, there's.

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Speaker 2: No there's no question I went. I went.

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Speaker 5: I went a year you know where I didn't really

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Speaker 5: add to the repertoire. Just kind of sometimes you just

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Speaker 5: sometimes you just you know, you just roll out there

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Speaker 5: So now, yeah, that that that Actually that's kind of

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Speaker 5: a scary thought. The hair up on my neck about Halloween.

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Speaker 5: Now you've got our real problem. We might actually have

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Speaker 5: some crimes committed this year.

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Speaker 3: Man, exactly right, exactly right, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Listen, I know it's June, the NBA Finals are going on,

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Speaker 4: but I sent you have never been more excited for

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Speaker 4: a Halloween than you are for this Halloween.

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Speaker 3: It is like it's the first Halloween for you. Legler.

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Speaker 5: You know it long the Brady reference, you know, I

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Speaker 5: think it's it's basically last year. I took a year off.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's what we did because because you know,

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Speaker 5: we were expecting and and we we had sold that property.

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Speaker 2: We weren't down here. You can't do it at the shorehouse.

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Speaker 2: There's just no room at the shorehouse.

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Speaker 5: So I took a year off from Halloween, and it

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Speaker 5: actually completely reinvigorated me. So this is, this is this

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Speaker 5: is bad news for everybody out there.

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Speaker 2: Oh what's what's gonna be unleashed?

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Speaker 4: Have you scattered out the neighbors yet? Have you done

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Speaker 4: like any of that, Like, do you know they're gonna

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Speaker 4: be annoyed with you? Yeah, you're gonna go You're gonna

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Speaker 4: go the extra mile to make sure they hate you.

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Speaker 3: Correct, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 2: We have we have we have in the front of

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Speaker 5: We have a pretty good sized pond when you come

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Speaker 5: in off to the right and there's a there's a

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Speaker 5: there's about an eight nine foot gator that lives in

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Speaker 5: that pond that is constantly out on the banks of

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Speaker 5: the house that abuts it. It's it's blows my mind

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Speaker 5: a little bit because there's two shipses that live in

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Speaker 5: that house and they have no fen and I've seen

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Speaker 5: that gator less than ten feet from the side of

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Speaker 5: the house, just resting.

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Speaker 2: There on the bank.

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Speaker 5: It's the weirdest thing. But I'm thinking about somehow incorporating the.

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Speaker 2: Gator into you know, what we do. If I get

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Speaker 2: that they trapped and dressed up, it will be at

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Speaker 2: all time.

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Speaker 4: I know, a legs, be careful. It's mating season, so gainers.

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Speaker 4: They're going from you know, you know, like pond to pond.

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Speaker 4: They're just trying to fight. Is it a golf community?

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, of water body of water?

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Speaker 2: You know, No, it's not. But you know what, I know,

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Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. Red. Believe me.

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Speaker 5: It's like, I think it's the scariest thing on earth.

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Speaker 5: It's really if that's my bugaboo, I think it's the

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Speaker 5: scariest creature ever created. So we have a huge lake

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Speaker 5: in this community. People have boat slips and just have

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Speaker 5: a water ski on that. And there's alligators in there

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Speaker 5: and a water ski on the lake. And I met

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Speaker 5: a couple and they're insisting they're going to get me

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Speaker 5: out there. Their children eight years old and under water

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Speaker 5: ski on a lake with alligators in it.

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Speaker 2: What is wrong with people in Florida?

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Speaker 3: We don't care, Billy, I know that. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: what happened. How do you know about gator mating season?

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Speaker 4: Because it happens so where I live in Parkland. We

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Speaker 4: live on a golf course, and so they're trying to

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Speaker 4: find a mate. It's mating season. They'll come out of

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Speaker 4: the water and they just keep walking and because they

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Speaker 4: can't see straight, they stumble right into your house.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, you've.

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Speaker 4: Never had a gator stumble into your he I haven't,

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Speaker 4: but people in my community have. And Legler are shaking

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Speaker 4: his head yes because he knows exactly what it is

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about, and he's not in the area, thank you.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's I think I think stub gotts.

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Speaker 5: It's like like late mid late April into June, right

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Speaker 5: that that's skating season. Basically, that's when you say you're

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Speaker 5: more likely to experience it, experience them in your everyday

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Speaker 5: life because they're wandering around trying to find a mate.

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Speaker 6: So is now the time to try to capture a

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Speaker 6: gator because they're closer to your house? Or do you

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Speaker 6: want to stay away because they may be like in

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Speaker 4: No, I think now was the time because they're coming

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Speaker 4: out and they're walking right up to your house. So

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Speaker 4: if you're not afraid of the gator, it's an easier

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Speaker 4: time to catch you gat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just saw.

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Speaker 2: I just saw the other day. And this was for years.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you, it's like, I'm terrified of these things,

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Speaker 5: and for years I've always followed these stories in Florida.

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Speaker 5: Person comes out and it's under the car or it's like, yes,

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Speaker 5: the day there was one, I think two weeks ago

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Speaker 5: maybe in Odessa, a thirteen foot gator on the dude's

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Speaker 5: front porch and he hears a noise out there, and

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Speaker 5: then he's showing videotape and it comes from the like

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Speaker 5: the front door to the little side window and goes

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Speaker 5: like this, and there's a thirteen foot alligator curled up

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Speaker 5: basically on his on his doormat, just like laying there.

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Speaker 6: I think if you don't get the actual gator, maybe

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Speaker 6: get like a motorized gator, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: Like get a replica gator and put god and have

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Speaker 6: that chase some people around.

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Speaker 2: That's actually not that's actually not bad.

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Speaker 3: Rightly terrified of the real gators. So I mean we

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Speaker 3: care about right.

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 2: One last gator story.

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Speaker 5: There's about fifteen kids there, age twelve to fifteen. One

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Speaker 2: Has it something gave birth to that.

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Speaker 5: And they proceeded to just continue this, like just jumping

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Speaker 5: You know that would be the irony, right if they're

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Speaker 3: It, Legs.

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Speaker 4: I think, like, you're new to the area, you need

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Speaker 3: It's titled that Yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And I've been downtown a number of times here, and

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Speaker 2: Huge hockey fan. I had no idea that.

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Speaker 5: Like they were that big into it down here. I mean,

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Speaker 2: The water, it's all you see. I mean, it's just white.

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Speaker 5: Tampa Bay Lady Jersey's everywhere, and they're super into we

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Speaker 5: right we bought that house, to say, why are you

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Speaker 5: seem graaty. I've seen him two or three times against

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Speaker 2: I'm so, I'm glad he's coming back.

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Speaker 3: You didn't move down there to see Kyle Trask, Let's

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Speaker 2: No, I did. No, that's right, you got that right,

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Speaker 2: You got that right, legs.

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Speaker 4: We have a big game three NBA Finals Celtics and

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Speaker 3: What's been kind of overall?

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Speaker 4: What have been your takeaways from the first two games

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think, first of all, the fourth quarter of

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Speaker 5: They just don't don't blow games like that at home.

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Speaker 5: So what happened in that game, the combination of making

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Speaker 5: his three pretty much every time down the floor, combined

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Speaker 5: it the next day a perfect twelve minutes of basketball

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Speaker 5: because I really think that's what Boston played, and people

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Speaker 2: It's over. It's over, and they can't beat them.

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Speaker 5: And I'm well, let's just wait a second, let's see

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Speaker 2: Here's my takeaway.

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Speaker 5: Now, I actually feel really good if I'm Steve Kurtin. Now,

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Speaker 5: you don't want to lose any game at home. Obviously

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: Their best player is the best player in this series,

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Speaker 5: He's get He's a young guys getting his feet wet

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Speaker 5: for the first time in the finals. He look terrified

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Speaker 5: in Game one, much better in Game two, and he

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Speaker 5: I think they get a split in Boston, make it

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Speaker 5: a best of three, two out of those three in

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Speaker 5: in the fact that, hey, our offense, we're still putting

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Speaker 5: and most importantly, Steph Curry is doing his thing against

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Speaker 4: I'll get to Steph in the second. I'm glad you

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Speaker 4: you're right, he's not right, He's not the same Klay.

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Speaker 4: What's the biggest difference as far as you've seen from

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Speaker 3: The injury and now after the I guess two injuries.

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Speaker 5: And listen, as a guy that you know, I tore

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Speaker 5: three year layoff, is not quite there. He is not

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Speaker 5: He wants it that bad. He's pressing. He wants people

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Speaker 5: to remember how great he is. I saw that all

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Speaker 5: are times I said to someone one night, I said,

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Speaker 2: He's actually getting.

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Speaker 5: Away from what makes him great, which is the organic

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Speaker 2: And he catching shooting. It's never forced.

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Speaker 5: He's forcing everything right now, and I think that is

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Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame player and he wants so badly

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Speaker 5: think Golden State's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna have a great chance win a series.

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Speaker 4: You know, Legs, I appreciate you being humble there, but

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Speaker 4: in today's NBA, I'm not certain you wouldn't be.

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Speaker 3: Better than Klay Thompson. How about that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, have you thought about the millions of dollars

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Speaker 2: You're one of the off.

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Speaker 5: Listen Man, if I if I was born in today's

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Speaker 2: Would be five times as big.

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Speaker 5: I can tell you that right now, because there was

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Speaker 5: So I look, and I don't hate any of these guys,

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Speaker 2: I mean I think ninety percent of his shots are

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Speaker 3: Yes, And and then.

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Speaker 5: And then ironically, the Heat get to the playoffs and

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Speaker 5: they're like, well, you know what, he's not quite good

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Speaker 2: It's bizarre to me what happened with him.

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Speaker 5: But I look at I look at those kind of

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Speaker 5: I just wish I was born twenty years later.

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Speaker 4: That's all I mean, Legler, you went back to back

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Speaker 3: Mean, you would have made one hundred and eighty million dollars,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: I lied. My house would not be five times six times. Big.

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Speaker 2: I lied.

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Speaker 5: I lied because because I think that's basically what nowadays. Right,

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Speaker 5: and you have that kind of shooting percentage, do you

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Speaker 2: With fifty two point two on it across to the GM. Right?

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Speaker 2: What's that worth? In today's basketball?

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Speaker 5: When we're taking forty five threes a night, what are

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, so that's how I would look

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Speaker 4: Listen, I shod that to Billy fifty two percent back

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Speaker 3: He was shocked, you know how good to Legler?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Great?

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 5: The year that I saw fifty two to two, it was.

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Speaker 5: It's funny because Steve Kerr and I were same era,

444
00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,800
Speaker 5: same age. I mean, we we competed against each other

445
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,800
Speaker 5: all those years. Uh, fifty two to two. That year,

446
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 5: I believe if I had just made two more threes two.

447
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,440
Speaker 2: Balls that year that didn't go in, I mean that.

448
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 5: That that that didn't doing that that had gone in,

449
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:13,800
Speaker 5: that would have.

450
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 2: Been the single season record for three point percentage.

451
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Speaker 5: But as it was, Kerr had like I think fifty

452
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 5: two three or fifty two four, whatever it was. I

453
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,480
Speaker 5: was fifty two to two, and now I think since

454
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 5: then it's been surpassed. I actually think Kyle Korver one

455
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 5: year in Utah did it when he had barely qualified.

456
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,679
Speaker 2: For minimum number of attempts, but he did it. And

457
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,199
Speaker 2: so guys there shooters pay attention to that stuff. But

458
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 2: I almost set the single season record. I just missed it.

459
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 3: You're so mad at her. I mean, you're better. You

460
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,159
Speaker 3: can I could sense it.

461
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 4: Who's the guy like sticks in your cross and Duncan Robinson?

462
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 4: Is that the guy you're You're like, hey, I'm fucking

463
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 4: better than that guy.

464
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm gonna listen. I'm dead serious when I

465
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 2: say this.

466
00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 5: I want more than anybody to get paid. Is the

467
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 5: dude that shoots threes at a high percentage. I want

468
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 5: those guys to get all the money. So I really

469
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 5: don't I really listen. I don't dwell on it. But

470
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 5: when I watched the game, it's impossible not to think about,

471
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 5: you know, the level of expertise that you had, and

472
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 5: how much pride you took and you know, making a

473
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Speaker 5: certain percentage. And now I think I think what we

474
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 5: label good shooters has changed the definition of it. I

475
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 5: think the percentages have come down and what we consider

476
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 5: a guy to be a good three point shoot and

477
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 5: I played, you better be in the upper forties minimum.

478
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 5: He considered one of the elite shooters in the league.

479
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 5: I think that standard has changed a little bit. But

480
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 5: I want all those guys to get paid.

481
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 3: He's such a better person than we are. I'd be.

482
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 4: It's it's like having the winning lotto numbers two draws before, Yes,

483
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 4: your ticket.

484
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 2: And I had this ago.

485
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 3: Like had the game. He had the game. Yet today's well,

486
00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 3: it's it's twenty years ago.

487
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 2: Botom line is the bottom line is I've got an

488
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 2: excellent therapist. Okay, so I've.

489
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 5: Got you know, I've spent a lot of money on

490
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 5: my PTSD from all of the money that these guys

491
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 5: get paid.

492
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 2: So she talks me down. That's the bottom line. She

493
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 2: talks me off the ledge.

494
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 4: But I legs, I think in the right situation, on

495
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 4: the right team, you could still give maybe fifteen points

496
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 4: a game.

497
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you're that you were that great of a shooter.

498
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 3: You agree, right, I think?

499
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 5: I listen here, here's here's what would have been fascinating

500
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 5: to me. Okay, so you you mentioned some of the

501
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 5: percentages I shot, And here's the thing, what is it

502
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 5: like to play completely unencumbered by the thought process of

503
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 5: is this a good shot or not? Because that think

504
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 5: about like my era, right you you waived that like

505
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 5: you waved that like.

506
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I and even forgot me like, yeah, I had

507
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: the green light.

508
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 5: To shoot a three, but the way we processed what

509
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 5: was a good shot was totally different. Like I would

510
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 5: couldn't contemplate fanning out to the three point line on

511
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 5: a three oh one break, like you would never consider

512
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 5: doing it.

513
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: So I would love to know if you released that.

514
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 5: Part of your brain, like you had a bad shot lobotomy,

515
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 5: so you didn't even know there was such a thing

516
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 5: as a bad shot, because I think that's what we're

517
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 5: talking about in today's NBA. What would that have translated to,

518
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 5: you know for me? The freedom you know that you

519
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 5: would have had to just go out there. Yeah, man,

520
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 5: every time you touch it, shoot it, We don't care what, right, Okay,

521
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 5: let's see if this is any fun? Yeah, I mean

522
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 5: so that part of it. I watched some nights and

523
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 5: I go, man, I couldn't imagine to have that kind

524
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 5: of freedom.

525
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 2: Man, just go shoot.

526
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter because they're gonna take forty five of them.

527
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna take fifty of them. So what's one or two?

528
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 2: Who cares? Just shoot it, let it fly.

529
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel I really think these guys are

530
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 5: in an incredible era that shoot the basketball.

531
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Speaker 3: It's disgrace.

532
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 6: They're making a mockery of the art that you refined.

533
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: Tim.

534
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 6: I feel like you'll come back to the NBA, maybe

535
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 6: maybe join like the Big Three League or something.

536
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 2: You know what, I oh man, oh man, Yeah, I

537
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: don't listen. Here's the thing.

538
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 5: I'll still go outside right now. I'll find any court, outdoor, indoor, whatever.

539
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 5: I'll pick up a ball, give me five minutes, ten

540
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 5: minutes to warm up. I'm still gonna make a really

541
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 5: high percentage. The difference is it's going to be from

542
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 5: one spot. I don't I don't quite get open like

543
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 5: the way that I used to.

544
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: Fight the off ball movement.

545
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 4: Right.

546
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,239
Speaker 5: So, I have a basketball camp I've done now for

547
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 5: fifteen years in South Jery's.

548
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: I'm really proud of a really big camp. And if

549
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 2: you go back over the years and just take a look.

550
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 5: Like when I first started doing the camp, I would

551
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 5: literally do a forty forty five minute shooting talk and

552
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 5: half of that at least I was running around with

553
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 5: someone feeding me and doing the same exact drill as

554
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 5: I did as a player. And over time it's gotten

555
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 5: to the point I'm like, okay, I still want to

556
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 5: wow these kids because I want them to see, like,

557
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 5: my god, how often the ball goes in.

558
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: It's like a machine. But now it's just like top

559
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: of the key, like bang bang bang. Because if I.

560
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 5: Start running around, it's immediate like I'll get winded or

561
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 5: like my knees start to hurt. So it's like, no,

562
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 5: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick to it right here.

563
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 4: Well, at least you didn't just have a kid, because

564
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 4: those are easy. Wait, one hundred threes right now, legs,

565
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: how many are you hitting?

566
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: Man? Hundred threes?

567
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 5: Give me, give me, you know, fifteen minutes to warm up, right.

568
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 5: If I don't make if I don't make sixty five seventy,

569
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 5: I'd be disappointed.

570
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. Same spot though, right, we can't move?

571
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, say spot sapot, Yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah,

572
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 5: not not not running around now, here's I'm fifty five

573
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 5: years old.

574
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 2: Five years ago on my fiftieth birthday, they were like,

575
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: what do you want to do today? My kids? My wife.

576
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 5: I said, I want to go to the gym, and

577
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 5: I want to make fifty threes and I want to

578
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 5: see how long it takes me to make fifty threes.

579
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 5: And my daughter was rebounding for me, and my wife

580
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 5: is videotaping it. And the first time I did it,

581
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 5: fifty for fifty four.

582
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: Wow.

583
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: She increased. And and here's the problem. The record button

584
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 2: was not hit.

585
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: Oh whose fault was that?

586
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: Mine? Mine?

587
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 5: I had the phone. I set it up because I

588
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 5: talked first. I pressed it, I said something I thought,

589
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 5: I pressed it and I did my face.

590
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,959
Speaker 2: Set it up. Here's what I'm gonna do. Here we go,

591
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: handed it to my wife. She just turned recorded it.

592
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: I get done. I go over there and go I go.

593
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: I was pretty good, right. My daughter's like, oh my god, yeah,

594
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: you lean to por shot. I go over there. Nothing recorded.

595
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 5: So I did it again, right again, and I went

596
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 5: fifty for fifty seven.

597
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, record yeah.

598
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 2: Record button?

599
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 5: Oh, record button yeah yeah, record button was on.

600
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 3: I don't need a record button. I trust you. Fifty fifty.

601
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 2: It was.

602
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 5: It was stationary. I'm, like I said, not moving around,

603
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 5: like not doing the.

604
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: Things I used to do. That's okay, though, Uh do

605
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: you believe?

606
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 4: Do you buy into the theory that Steph Curry needs

607
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 4: to win a finals MVP to validate what has already

608
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 4: been a Hall of Fame great career.

609
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: You don't buy it?

610
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: No, No, not at all. I don't. I don't buy

611
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: it at all. I mean, I think for.

612
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 5: Me, and I look, this is not in any way

613
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 5: taken away from Andrea Gudala, but I remember covering that

614
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 5: series and I might actually get this written on my

615
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 5: tombstone when I died.

616
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: Steph Curry should have been the finals MVP of that series.

617
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: Because westone very strange. I appreciate it.

618
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: It's great.

619
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 5: It's a hot thirty four on me.

620
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 6: You can put it on your fake tombstones for Halloween,

621
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 6: but on your personal.

622
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 4: And nobody's got me thinking mine is going to be

623
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant never won a championship.

624
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 3: Wow. See listen, listen.

625
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 5: We all have that one bugaboom statement right that we

626
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 5: want to that we want to like fallen the sword over,

627
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 5: And that's the one for me because I look at

628
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 5: that and say, man, people just discounted the fact that

629
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 5: that entire series everything Steph Curry did the week side

630
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 5: of the floor to play three on two to two

631
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 5: on one. So look, I understand, andre IgA Dollard guarded

632
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 5: Lebron James and his shooting percentage wasn't great, but Lebron

633
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: still averaged like forty points a game in that series,

634
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 5: and Igodala did make some important shots. But everything they

635
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 5: did was created by Steph Curry drawing two guys with

636
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 5: them off a ball screen, dragging them to the other

637
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 5: side of the court.

638
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: With his dribble, reversing it.

639
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 5: To Draymond Green, and letting them play two on one

640
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 5: on the week side or three on two. And then

641
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 5: these guys were taking practice shots. And I just at

642
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 5: PJ Caurtlistimo and I were doing the post game when

643
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 5: they won it, and we both one hundred percent agreed

644
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 5: on what we had just seen. So look, and like

645
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 5: I said, I don't want to take away It's like

646
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 5: I stef said many times. For me, I don't like

647
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 5: when people get awards and say, way, don't deserve it,

648
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 5: because this guy deserved it. I don't like doing that.

649
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 5: I just think for me, that's where my vote would

650
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 5: have gone. You know, I don't like sitting in the

651
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 5: back of a church and booing bridesmaids when they walk

652
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 5: in on wedding day and it's.

653
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: Like, you know, this must be a special day for

654
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: these people. It would be fun, you.

655
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: Know, but that's only something would do anyway.

656
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: No doubt about.

657
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 5: That's why I've never understand people being allowed in the

658
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 5: building a draft night.

659
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: I don't get why you let people get booed on

660
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: the biggest night of their life.

661
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 5: It's the most bizarre thing in the world to me

662
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 5: that we allow that to happen on the happiest day

663
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 5: of your life.

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Speaker 3: People are gonna boo your happiness. Though, when's the last

665
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Speaker 3: time you booed someone?

666
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Speaker 5: It's so great, I can honestly say, I don't think

667
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 5: I've ever booed. I listen, man, you're talking to a

668
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: guy that leaves my you know, the football stadium of

669
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Speaker 5: my team, which is now we're our third teams were

670
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 5: having an identity crisis.

671
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Speaker 2: Right now in Washington. But I leave there.

672
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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I'm enraged on my read most weeks,

673
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 5: but I will not boo.

674
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: I don't boo. I don't think. I don't think. I'm

675
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: just one of those guys and things.

676
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 5: What am I accomplishing right now? I'm not affecting anything

677
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 5: by doing that. So I'd rather just sit there with

678
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 5: my beer and watch the game and leave most weeks,

679
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 5: like I do, disappointed.

680
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: But now you're a Bucks fan, and most weeks you'll

681
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: have no reason to bill. You'll be fine. Listen from

682
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 4: a team perspective, though, I appreciate what you're saying. So

683
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 4: Curry's basically already won a Finals MVP in your personal

684
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Speaker 4: record book.

685
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: I like that it's on your tombstone.

686
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: But from a more I guess team standpoint, Kobe Bryant

687
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: said the championships he won without Shack were more important

688
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: than the championships he won with Shack because no one

689
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: thought he could win the championships without Shack.

690
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: Now the Warriors, they've already won one.

691
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Speaker 4: Without Kevin Durant, but I feel like from a team perspective,

692
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 4: they feel like they need to win a second championship

693
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Speaker 4: without Kevin Durant to validate those three the core Clay

694
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Speaker 4: Draymond Steph do you agree with that?

695
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: I do agree with that, and I think they're driven

696
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: by that. I really do.

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Speaker 5: I think and for me, I believe if they win

698
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 5: this championship, this is the crown jewel of Steph Curry's career. Yeah,

699
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 5: Klay Thompson's career career, that entire group, the Steph Curry era,

700
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Speaker 5: let's call it.

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Speaker 2: This is the crown jewel.

702
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 5: Because you can't find in history another situation like this

703
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 5: where a team was that dominant, that good, five straight finals,

704
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 5: and then everything happens. A guy leaves a ton of injuries,

705
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 5: they win fifteen games.

706
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Speaker 2: When they finally.

707
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 5: Get everybody back, they've got a brand new supporting cast,

708
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 5: and they're all in their thirties, they do it again.

709
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 5: Because I think this is not a one off. They're

710
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 5: on the verge of another run. I really believe over

711
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 5: the next four to five years. And you could go

712
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 5: back and look historically, it's never happened. If they're able

713
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 5: to do what I just said, that has never happened

714
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Speaker 5: in the history of the game, where because usually have

715
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Speaker 5: one run and okay, it could be twelve years like

716
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 5: the Celtics back in the sixties, it could be you know,

717
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 5: six and eight like the Bulls had with Jordan leaven

718
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 5: To play baseball for a couple years. It could be

719
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 5: three years like the Lakers had with Kobe and Shaq. Whatever,

720
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 5: the last a certain amount of time and then it's over.

721
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 5: You don't get another run, and especially when guys are

722
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 5: now in their thirties having dealt with all these injuries

723
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 5: and a free agent like Kevin rant leading. So this

724
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: to me is the absolute cherry on a Sunday for

725
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 5: this entire group, and they are so driven to do

726
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 5: that because they know what it represents.

727
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 3: Historically legs.

728
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: If you were to give Jason Tatum, like we all

729
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: marvel at his game, he bounces kind of off the

730
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: screen and that kind of talent. But if you were

731
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: to sit down with Jason Tatum and say, hey, you

732
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 4: need to work on this one thing, what would that

733
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: thing be?

734
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: I tell you what, I don't know that I can anymore.

735
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 5: There were two things, and he's addressed it, and it

736
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 5: was he wasn't creative enough with his handle. He was

737
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 5: mainly a straight line dribble drive guy, whether he got

738
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 5: to the ram or stopped after two dribbles for a

739
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 5: pull up. He now has the ability because he can

740
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 5: manipulate it with either hand.

741
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: He'll go back and forth.

742
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 5: He'll set guys up. He never did that before, so

743
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 5: the work he's put into his handle is obvious. And

744
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 5: then the other thing was the ability to beat you

745
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 5: as a passer. He can finally do that. So honestly,

746
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 5: I think he's as complete an offensive player as just

747
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 5: about anybody in the league, and he plays both ends.

748
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: I just have a ton of admiration and respect for

749
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 5: Tatum and what he's turned himself into it. Like I

750
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: remember the Brooklyn series, he guarded Kevin Duranams every minute

751
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 5: he was on the floor. We just don't see that anymore. Nobody.

752
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 5: Those guys are protected. You find somebody else.

753
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: Man.

754
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 5: We pay this dude this amount of money to go

755
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: out there and get in his jersey and eat up

756
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 5: those fouls and do all that stuff because he needs

757
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 5: you fresh on offense. That mentality permeates the NBA. That

758
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 5: series was refreshing because both of those guys took on

759
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 5: that challenge, and Tatum likes that challenge, so he plays

760
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 5: both ends. He's complete offensively. I don't know that there

761
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 5: is something I can say. It's a matter of time.

762
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 5: He has pulled his seat up to the table with

763
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Speaker 5: the big boys. The Janises and the Jokichs, like MVPs

764
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 5: or champions, are both that select group of guys. I

765
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 5: think Tatum is right on the cusp of pulling a

766
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 5: seat up to that table. It's a matter of time

767
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 5: before he wins an MVP or a title. He might

768
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 5: win a title this year. It's a matter of time

769
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Speaker 5: before he gets an MVP as well.

770
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Speaker 4: All right, we'll get you out of here on this note.

771
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Speaker 4: We have been having a discussion around our show Professional

772
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Speaker 4: Getter of Buckets, and you know what I mean, like

773
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 4: a guy who could just go out and get you

774
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 4: a bucket even today, right like Vinnie Johnson would be

775
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 4: that guy. If you needed a bucket, give me your

776
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 4: top five guys you would go to to get a bucket.

777
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 4: Top five professional getter of Buckets of all time, of

778
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Speaker 4: all time. Yes, Oh, we did this with Jamal Crawford.

779
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: By the way, he might be one of them, you.

780
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Speaker 5: Know, Jamal Crawford is in that group. Lou Williams is

781
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 5: definitely in that group.

782
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: Lou Williams. You know you're talking about Tombstone.

783
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 5: Lou Walliem is going to pop off out of his

784
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 5: own casket and make one more shot.

785
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: Before he lays down for eternity.

786
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Speaker 5: I really believe that that dude, that dude could score

787
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 5: on anybody. So you're so that sounds to me like

788
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 5: you're talking about guys that maybe that aren't necessarily uh super.

789
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 4: Starty, you get the game. Yes, legs all, I'm not

790
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: looking for Kobe Bryant. No, that's not what I'm looking for.

791
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 4: I'm looking for like the guys you were just talking about.

792
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: Yes, God, you hit me, put me on the spot.

793
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: This is tough.

794
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: Vinnie Johnson.

795
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Speaker 5: Vinnie Johnson's a really good one, yes, because that's all

796
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 5: he was getting paid to do. Listen, and I know,

797
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 5: I know he's I guess super stubborn. I mean, I

798
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 5: think there was a time you would probably put a

799
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 5: guy even like cermel Anthony in that category. You need

800
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 5: one bucket, Camel Anthony is gonna get you a bucket.

801
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm trying to think of guys from my

802
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 5: era that I considered to be oh.

803
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Speaker 2: Not really the same. Del Curry.

804
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Speaker 5: I say, it was a good one, but he had

805
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 5: to do it off the catch. But man, that's tough.

806
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 5: It's just tough on short notice. I wish I had

807
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 5: more time for that list because I would have come

808
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 5: up with some ones you guys hadn't thought of.

809
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: Totally fair. Think about it.

810
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: Next time we have you on, we will we will

811
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Speaker 4: get your top five list of professional getters of actual

812
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: getters of buckets leg So you have the Warriors winning

813
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 4: this thing.

814
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: Wait, I got a good one? What real quick? Ricky Pierce.

815
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: Ricky Pierce is excellent. That is fantasts what I'm talking about?

816
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: Good player now the guard star player, but he can

817
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 4: get you a bucket whenever he wants.

818
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, flat out give him the ball anywhere inside eighteen feet.

819
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: The guy was as wide as a refrigerator, played two guard.

820
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 5: One of the strongest guys I ever played against, great

821
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 5: one and you knew he was going to shoot a

822
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 5: turn around jumper in your face and you couldn't do

823
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 5: anything about it.

824
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 4: World Be Free would be another one, Oh like that? Yeah,

825
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 4: Chris Jackson would be another one.

826
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 5: Yeah that's not bad, Bob mcado, I guess you know

827
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 5: it sounds like one of those guys legs.

828
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Speaker 4: Just because our audience will care about your thoughts on this,

829
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 4: pat Riley came out said you know that he'd have

830
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 4: to tinker. But Riley always says that do you feel like,

831
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 4: because it's strange for me. If Tyler Hero is healthy,

832
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 4: if Lowry is healthy, I mean the heat we're basket

833
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: away from advancing to the NBA Finals.

834
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: I'm not certain they don't. I feel like they might.

835
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 4: Have enough if Tyler Hero is healthy, but you know, oh,

836
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 4: you know, you know how he likes to do it.

837
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: Do you think if he just stay put and their

838
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 4: healthy next year, do they have enough?

839
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: No?

840
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: I don't think they do a little bit concerned.

841
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 5: I think the Tyler Hero point is valid at the

842
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 5: end of the playoffs, yes, but what about the beginning

843
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: of the playoffs. I mean, he had a seven point

844
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 5: drop off in the postseason from what he did in

845
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 5: the regular season. So that's a little bit concerning to

846
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 5: me because listen, everything's gonna pick up, and he's a

847
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 5: very talented player, and he's six man a year in

848
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 5: a Landslade should have been unanimous, and yet I think,

849
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 5: can you still get into him physically a little bit

850
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 5: when the playoffs allow it? And I think that's something

851
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 5: you need to look at. Kyle Lowry is another one.

852
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 5: I say, Okay, was this injuries or is this a

853
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 5: guy that has literally thrown his body into the Fray

854
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 5: his entire career. There's never been a point guard in

855
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 5: history more physical or spent more time on the ground

856
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 5: than Kyle Lowry. And you look up now he's in

857
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 5: his thirties, has all of that just taking a toll

858
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 5: in him where we're never gonna see the same Kyle

859
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 5: Lowry that you saw at Toronto, right, And so that's

860
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 5: a big part of this. Jimmy Butler obviously has proven

861
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 5: he can rise to the occasion in the postseason. Bam

862
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 5: Adebayo is another guy that you kind of scratch your

863
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 5: head and go, well, what is he gonna be in

864
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 5: the postseason for us going forward? So I think there

865
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 5: are absolute questions about this roster and do they have

866
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 5: enough firepower that you know, can navigate the physicality to

867
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 5: playoffs and be there night in and night out for

868
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 5: a two month run. Not sporadically have bursts of great

869
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 5: play and then other times they're not really a factor

870
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 5: in the game. The teams that win it, those key

871
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 5: guys typically show up almost every night, and I don't

872
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 5: know that we feel that way about the Miami Heat rosters.

873
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 2: So I think they do need.

874
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: To continue to look check them out all over ESPN's

875
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: NBA Finals coverage and ESPN's NBA coverage legs. We know

876
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: it's a very busy time for you or movie. We

877
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: appreciate it, uh and we will come see you in

878
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 4: Tampa for Halloween hundred percent.

879
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: You're not wait to do it. Let's run it back.

880
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Speaker 2: M