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Speaker 2: That the fifteen to the tener He's gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Swam to the ground by Budda Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield Connor to the ten,

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Speaker 2: Here we go one hand to catch at a touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, how's that film? Here's Craig Griolou, Paul Calvic,

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Speaker 1: and thirteen year NFL veteran Drew Stanton.

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Speaker 3: Now this is not an April fool's joke. You heard correctly,

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Speaker 3: bird Gang. Drew stan is back in the building. He

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Speaker 3: could just not stay away. He missed us, Paul just

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Speaker 3: and he had to come back to see our smiling faces.

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Speaker 4: He reserves the right to leave it any moment, truly,

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Speaker 4: to check himself out of the game. So you got

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Speaker 4: to make sure you know you're putting some really credible questions,

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Speaker 4: all right out there, although I do have my head

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Speaker 4: on a swivel. It is April Fools, and Drew has

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Speaker 4: a long track record. We know this from his playing

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Speaker 4: days of pulling a prank or two. So if anybody's

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Speaker 4: capable of pulling something in April Fools, it is Drew Stanton,

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt.

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Speaker 5: Well that was when I was a player. I'm matured now,

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Speaker 5: I see you know. I've come a long way, and

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Speaker 5: we're talking offense today, so of course I'm going to

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Speaker 5: show up. We're talking offense.

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Speaker 4: Guys, I've matured.

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Speaker 3: Do your kids know you've matured? Or you just left

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Speaker 3: that in the locker room?

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Speaker 5: They don't know how immature. I actually was my son's

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Speaker 5: twelve now, and so he asked this questions like that,

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Speaker 5: Why did not I just tell that story about how

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Speaker 5: I'll change the channel?

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Speaker 4: Yep, if Carson Palmer was around, we'd all be doomed.

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Speaker 4: But maybe separating it sort of like in class, you

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Speaker 4: couldn't have Carson and Drew sitting next to each other

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Speaker 4: in the same class. So now that there's separated, yeah,

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Speaker 4: maybe that maturity rises to the top.

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Speaker 3: It is good to see you, Drew.

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Speaker 5: Thanks well, it's good to see you guys in person

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Speaker 5: as opposed to just over a phone call. But you know,

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Speaker 5: much like the rule changes that we're about to dive into,

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Speaker 5: there's also rule changes in the locker room probably can't

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Speaker 3: So it's a true professional right there with the transition. Because, yes,

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Speaker 3: the annual league meetings happening as we speak in Palm Beach, Florida. No, Paul,

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Speaker 3: you and I did not get the invite. Darren Urban

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Speaker 3: is in Florida and you can catch his work on

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Speaker 3: Easycardinals dot com. But many of the items that had

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Speaker 3: been discussed leading up to the league meetings as far

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Speaker 3: as rules and proposed rules, there are a handful of

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Speaker 3: new rule changes, and we can go through this one

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Speaker 3: by one, Drew just kind of get your thoughts. But

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Speaker 3: is there one as far as the rules that have passed,

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Speaker 3: whether that's overtime touch back to the thirty five replay assists,

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Speaker 3: a little tweak in the free agency negotiating window, is

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Speaker 3: there one of those four that stands out above the rest?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the one that is nice from an

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Speaker 5: offensive standpoint, being completely biased, is allowing both teams to

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Speaker 5: possess the football right, like all of these rule changes

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Speaker 5: are coming up each and every year to try to

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Speaker 5: next upcoming season. That's why you see some of these

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Speaker 5: pass some of these fails, some are tabled for later.

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Speaker 5: But really what you want to do is provide the

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Speaker 5: best product. They are going to keep the fans engaged.

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Speaker 5: That's our lifeblood. So giving a fan base an opportunity

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Speaker 5: you really want to give both teams an opportunity to

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Speaker 5: what's the what's the rule?

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Speaker 5: What is it? A field goal?

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Speaker 3: That? Is it?

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Speaker 5: Playoffs? Just make it the way that it is. The

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Speaker 5: other one I think that will be interesting is, yes,

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Speaker 3: The overtime is the only tweak though, is versus regular

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Speaker 3: but instead of fifteen minutes in the playoffs, it's ten

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Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily mean the game is one or loss, depending

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Speaker 4: And look, it's you can argue, Okay, you gotta play defense,

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Speaker 4: and if Wolf was here, that's exactly what he would argue.

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Speaker 4: But I'll go back to probably the most physical regular

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Speaker 4: season game I've ever witnessed in person twenty sixteen, the

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Speaker 4: six to six slugfest tie Cardinals and Seahawks. And you're

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Speaker 4: going overtime in that game, which it did, and under

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Speaker 4: the previous rules, right, the first team that possessed the

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Speaker 4: ball scores and they walk off that field the winner.

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Speaker 4: It just doesn't feel fair, to be brutally honest. So

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Speaker 4: it's just sort of a feeling, and you don't want

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Speaker 4: the fans coming away thinking, all right, we got robbed,

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Speaker 4: we got jobbed, we got ho So in this case,

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Speaker 4: I do like the fact that both teams and yes,

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Speaker 4: it matches the postseason rules. So wait a minute, if

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Speaker 4: it's good enough for the postseason. It should be good

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Speaker 4: enough for the regular season. According to the league, since

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, teams that won the coin toss had

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Speaker 4: a thirty seventeen and two record, and that's pretty significant. Again,

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Speaker 4: you win the coin toss, you win the game. Now

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Speaker 4: it's okay, each team gets a possession. Now the one

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Speaker 4: that you talked about, Drew, that was the replay assists

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Speaker 4: to be able to go back and look at flags

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Speaker 4: that are thrown for certain parts of play, like hits

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Speaker 4: on a defensive player, grabbing the face, mass horse collar, tackle, tripping.

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Speaker 4: But it is not intended to have a flag thrown.

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Speaker 4: It's only if a flag is thrown, you can go

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Speaker 4: back and replay it. And we were talking off air,

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Speaker 4: and you're seeing it now, certainly around March Madness in

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Speaker 4: college basketball, that under two minutes you go get every

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Speaker 4: out of bounds play and all of a sudden, that

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Speaker 4: two minutes becomes twelve, fifteen, eighteen minutes long. And maybe

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Speaker 4: the concern here is are more flood flag's going to

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Speaker 4: replay it or look in and see if it's reviewable.

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Speaker 4: Did we really make the correct.

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Speaker 5: Call exactly, you could equate it. So when they started

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Speaker 5: allowing turnovers to be reviewable, right now, you see it's

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Speaker 5: not even questionable that it's an incomplete pass. And defensive

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Speaker 5: and score, run to the goal line, do all this stuff.

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Speaker 5: The only thing is is, because again we're a fan

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Speaker 5: because you don't want these long drawn out timeouts or

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Speaker 5: of the game. We were also talking about in baseball, right,

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Speaker 5: they're trying to speed the game up. This is an

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, look, replay assist in this case, right,

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Speaker 4: if there's subjective evidence, if it's an objective call, whether

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Speaker 4: it's contact to the head or neck, whether there's a

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Speaker 4: throw a flag if a penalty wasn't called. So that's

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Speaker 4: the clear clarification you need there, because so many fans

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The other one that I would think you would like,

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Speaker 3: Drew based on your offensive past, is the fact that

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Speaker 3: now it's a touchback at the thirty five yard line

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Speaker 3: instead of the thirty. This would certainly mean maybe more

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, you begin a drive at the thirty

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Speaker 3: but those five yards I think can make a significant difference.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It can be extremely beneficial at any

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Speaker 5: see more people saying, yeah, let's do that. Let's protect

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Speaker 3: There was a fifty seven percent increase and a lower

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Speaker 3: injury rate in twenty four versus twenty three when this

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Speaker 3: dynamic kickoff return was a one year trial. Now it's

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Speaker 4: And look at these head coaches. They are low to

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Speaker 4: it is a big difference. You can say, oh, it's

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Speaker 4: And I think that's going to equate to a big

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Speaker 4: change in thinking and it might equate to a change

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Speaker 4: in drafting. For example, some of the mock drafts now

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Speaker 4: of the Cardinals in round two going after the Iowa

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Speaker 4: State receiver Jalen Knowle. And he's a guy who was

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Speaker 4: first team All Big Twelve return team, right, I mean

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Speaker 4: he's a dynamic kick and punt returner. Are you more

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Speaker 4: the kickoff return game. Cardinals have DJ Dallas. We saw

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Speaker 4: what he did in Week one against Buffalo, didn't get

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Speaker 4: a whole bunch. Opportunity's going forward. Now. Guess what, I

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Speaker 4: think it's gonna be a bigger part of the game plan.

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Speaker 3: Dallas averaged better than thirty yards of return last season,

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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals. As far as rule changes that did not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, it's funny because there's a risk reward involved

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Speaker 5: I'll say, now, well that's not a real football play.

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Speaker 5: Well it is, because they're all under the confinements of

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Speaker 4: So stop it. What about pushing from behind? Where do

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well I don't think so. Right, everybody thinks about

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Speaker 5: we're trying to make this game safer. That is exposing

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Speaker 4: There's one person in this studio who has executed a

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Speaker 5: First thing is is you've got to identify who on

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Speaker 5: But it is not something that is talked about very

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Speaker 3: Was that Mikey Potti that you uh every time?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Mike would be my first choice, and he just

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Speaker 5: look at you with this smiles that I got you, Drew,

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Speaker 4: You two years ago when the toushblush started and the

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Speaker 4: You said, there's a point of no return where you

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Speaker 4: You're off your feet and you're just going along for

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Speaker 4: of what like at some point you're just off your

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Speaker 5: No, I never got to that point out getting down.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no doubt you need one.

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Speaker 3: Drew will get you one feed to hand the ball

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Speaker 3: off to somebody else herd Gang. Be the first to

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Speaker 3: see the Cardinals twenty twenty five schedule when it gets

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Speaker 3: released in May. Is it Azycardinals dot com forward slash

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Speaker 3: which means it is the Cardinals Red seat report. Craig Reial,

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Speaker 3: the offense seems like they're running it back personnel wise.

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Speaker 2: Murray under center takes the snap and it's a jet

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Speaker 2: the goal line. Touchdown. Fray McBride on the handoff. Mccride

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Speaker 2: a defender at the forty that was drunk ast You

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Speaker 2: can't control Trey McBride, looking deep left, throwing and between

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Speaker 2: four jets, the ball is caught by Trey McBride. Trey McBride,

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Speaker 2: you are a bad, bad man, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Let the Cardinals in both receptions and receiving yards plus

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Speaker 3: is the Cardinals red seer report here talking about this

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Speaker 3: Cardinals offense in twenty twenty five. Yes, Trey McBride, you're

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Speaker 3: you get more out of your wife receivers. I think

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: What it tells me is they like their young skill guys, right,

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Speaker 5: that's one thing Moni has made a considered effort to

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Speaker 5: And so we still have the draft coming up to

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Speaker 5: to stop trade McBride, Where do you go from there?

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Speaker 4: Needs and wants, right, Craig, So there's needs and then

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Speaker 5: That's where you saw Larry make the transition when I

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Speaker 5: do we go to? All things being equal, right, you

435
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Speaker 5: want to get as many guys as possible because there's

436
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Speaker 5: as many moving pieces to create those high lows in zone.

437
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Speaker 5: If it's a one on one opportunity, right, you're going

438
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Speaker 5: to take Marvin Harrison Junior every time, But they also

439
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Speaker 5: will shift the safety over the so to Paul's point, right,

440
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Speaker 5: the safety flies over the top to help with one

441
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Speaker 5: on one on Marvin Harrison Jr. You need somebody that's

442
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Speaker 5: going to win one on one with no safety help.

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Speaker 5: And that's really where you can get an advantage with

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Speaker 5: a strong number two wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: And I do believe that Cardinals over the course of

446
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Speaker 4: the year began to really learn how many different routes

447
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Speaker 4: he's capable of running in different ways to use Marvin

448
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Speaker 4: Irrison Junior. He himself mentioned in Week seventeen and eighteen

449
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Speaker 4: that some of his success to finish the year was

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Speaker 4: because of different routes were incorporated into the game plan.

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Speaker 4: I know coming out of the by Jonathan Gannon his

452
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Speaker 4: TV show, told us he'd like to see a little

453
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Speaker 4: better success rate outside the numbers with Kyler Murray. And

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Speaker 4: then Kyler Murray second last week of the season said, look,

455
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Speaker 4: it can be better. It will be better. It should

456
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Speaker 4: be better. My connection and we know, you know a one

457
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Speaker 4: hundred and sixteen targets, sixty two catches that is definitely

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Speaker 4: on the checklist going into next season. They want to

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Speaker 4: improve that efficiency. And you bring up Kyler. It's the

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Speaker 4: second year with Kyler and Marvin working together. It's Kyler's

461
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Speaker 4: seventh season in the league here with EOS the Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: This offseason spending some time in Korea, and was asked

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Speaker 4: on KBS World his approach going into twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: The work is being put in. I don't take too

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Speaker 7: much time off. The older I've gotten, the less time

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Speaker 7: I take off. You know, I took about a week

467
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Speaker 7: off from you know, after the season, just to you know,

468
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Speaker 7: I guess, let the body rest a little bit, but

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Speaker 7: I got right back into it.

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Speaker 4: Started grunning.

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Speaker 7: I'm really looking forward to the season because, yeah, I

472
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Speaker 7: know we're capable of I know, you know, I feel

473
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Speaker 7: like I haven't even scratched the surface of what I

474
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Speaker 7: can be and what I can do in this league.

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Speaker 7: I'm super excited.

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Speaker 3: The one significant offseason move as far as the offense

477
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Speaker 3: was concerned as a player that we hope we never

478
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Speaker 3: see in twenty twenty five, and that is the backup

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Speaker 3: quarterback in Jacoby Brissett. You're laughing, Drew because we said

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Speaker 3: that about you once upon a time as well. No,

481
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Speaker 3: because as a backup, you don't want to be on

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Speaker 3: the football field, correct, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But we can still be seen, like you can still

484
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Speaker 5: see us on the sideline, like you don't even want

485
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Speaker 5: to sell like it.

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Speaker 3: Not between the lines now, I don't when the game is.

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Speaker 5: Going on, well yeah, I mean, but you also have

488
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Speaker 5: to prepare if something does transpire. So again, backup quarterbacks

489
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Speaker 5: should be behind the scenes. And that's the goal in

490
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Speaker 5: all of it, right, is to be an asset. As

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Speaker 5: I talked about before when I was with you guys,

492
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Speaker 5: the backup quarterback plays such an instrumental role within the

493
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Speaker 5: entire franchise and at the facility of what they can

494
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Speaker 5: do on a daily basis to help prepare for everything.

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Speaker 5: And like Kyler just talked about, right, he's just scratching

496
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Speaker 5: the surface. So what do you need to do? You

497
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Speaker 5: need somebody that's been there, done that, that knows how

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Speaker 5: to continually answer any question that might come up. Right, Okay,

499
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Speaker 5: well why are you seeing this coverage? How did you

500
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Speaker 5: know it is going to be here? What did you

501
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Speaker 5: know this pressure was going to be or the fact

502
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Speaker 5: that he's even been in this system is another thing. Hey,

503
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Speaker 5: Like we used to use this check. We saw the

504
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Speaker 5: same exact defense here when we were in New England

505
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Speaker 5: and this is how we answered it. Right, So experience

506
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Speaker 5: is so vital. There is no replacement for experience. Yes,

507
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Speaker 5: Kyler's been in this league for seven years, He's been

508
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Speaker 5: in multiple systems. Now he is doing a great job

509
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Speaker 5: of operating this offense under cent and doing all these

510
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Speaker 5: things in a highly competitive setting. But an addition like

511
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Speaker 5: this is only going to help him. And like I said,

512
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Speaker 5: it's also going to help Clayton tune because you've had

513
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Speaker 5: a guy with so much experience and then it just

514
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Speaker 5: it continues to kind of have this ripple effect, not

515
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Speaker 5: only in the quarterback room, but the offensive line room,

516
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Speaker 5: the wide receiver room, all these things. Again, we're talking

517
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Speaker 5: about making these adjustments as a quarterback. Veteran quarterbacks know

518
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Speaker 5: what they need from a guy within a certain route.

519
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Speaker 5: I need you to be here at this specific time.

520
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Speaker 5: I need you to be able to do all of

521
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Speaker 5: these things. And he can go be a mouthpiece for Kyler.

522
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Speaker 5: And that's really where you see a guy like Marvin

523
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Speaker 5: Harrison Junior take off or even when he goes and

524
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Speaker 5: he talks to Drew Petsing saying, hey, like, what do

525
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Speaker 5: you think about trying to get the ball in his

526
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Speaker 5: hands early? Think about this, think about this player or

527
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Speaker 5: this play. Again, he's kind of an extension of the

528
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Speaker 5: coaching staff or a guy like this, and that's why

529
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Speaker 5: I think it's such a valuable piece of the puzzle.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you said experience in this system, because we

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Speaker 4: talked about that last week. It's one thing Jacoby brissaid

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Speaker 4: going into year ten. I mean, that's obviously applause. He

533
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Speaker 4: started more than fifty games in this leg, but in

534
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two he started eleven games in the same

535
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Speaker 4: system that Drew Petsen is running. So for him to

536
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Speaker 4: show up and already have that knowledge to share the

537
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Speaker 4: anecdote that in week fifteen last year, New England at

538
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Speaker 4: Arizona and he's on the sidelines trying to predict the place,

539
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Speaker 4: trying to call the plays in his head what Drew

540
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Speaker 4: was going to dial up and you successful a handful

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Speaker 4: of times. How much does that help him? A just

542
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Speaker 4: have credibility in the room with Kyler, and then B

543
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Speaker 4: just to have the wherewithal and the knowledge to be

544
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Speaker 4: a true help with Kyler's understanding the system and where

545
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Speaker 4: to go with his reads, etc.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, again, he's heard it before, he's been there, he's done,

548
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Speaker 5: and he's operated that. Right, you can go back and

549
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Speaker 5: you can draw on these resources. I mean, we would

550
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Speaker 5: do the same thing. Here's when you've played in the

551
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Speaker 5: system and you've played a like opponent that's coming up

552
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Speaker 5: that week. You go back and you turn that film on.

553
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Speaker 5: You sit there and say, okay, this is our opening script.

554
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Speaker 5: You know, all of us quarterbacks or creatures have habit that,

555
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Speaker 5: we have notes, we have all of our game plans.

556
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Speaker 5: You see all these things and you go back and say, Okay,

557
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Speaker 5: this is what we did here, this is how we

558
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Speaker 5: picked up this pressure, this is a good run check.

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Speaker 5: These are the different things that we did throughout the

560
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Speaker 5: course of that week to prepare and he lived that.

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Speaker 5: You know, It's one thing to say, oh, I was

562
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Speaker 5: in the room when I was doing this, but he

563
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Speaker 5: was able to go out there and have success in

564
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Speaker 5: those eleven games. Like you talked about, He's played at

565
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Speaker 5: a high level and accomplish a lot of great things.

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Speaker 5: And again just having that confidence of saying, I am

567
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Speaker 5: the backup and I am literally here to just help

568
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Speaker 5: Kyler Burt Murley be the best version of Kyler Murray

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Speaker 5: that he can be. That's really what you're looking for

570
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Speaker 5: in a backup, and everybody can you agree with Paul's

571
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Speaker 5: with Craig's statement, you don't want to see the backup play,

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Speaker 5: So how do you do that? You help put the

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Speaker 5: starter in the best possible position.

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Speaker 3: I did joke about it. Yet at the same time,

575
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Speaker 3: there was a comfort level when we did see you

576
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Speaker 3: on the football field, and there has to be because

577
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Speaker 3: if you have to use that number two quarterback for

578
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Speaker 3: a play a series, two or three games, you don't

579
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Speaker 3: want that to derail your entire season exactly right.

580
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Speaker 5: You've got to be able to weather any storm, and

581
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Speaker 5: you're trying to make a team as bulletproof as possible

582
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Speaker 5: going into that season, and this is a way to

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Speaker 5: do it.

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Speaker 4: Twenty years of the side reporter Craig, I think I

585
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Speaker 4: can say, I think I can assert that you know

586
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Speaker 4: what a team either believes in the backup or they don't,

587
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Speaker 4: and when the backup goes in, you can be done

588
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Speaker 4: before the first ball is even snapped if the whole

589
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Speaker 4: sideline doesn't believe in the guy who just checked into

590
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Speaker 4: the game. So that's critical as well.

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Speaker 8: First to ten up at the forty six Prescott under

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Speaker 8: center Boacherle's time play action and the passes intercepted, els intercepted.

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Speaker 3: It picks off by Jock's foot fifteen ten foot touchdown

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Speaker 3: Josh futt.

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Speaker 4: I want to play by Josh Witz.

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Speaker 3: Now the end tries to block him, he sheds the

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Speaker 3: end beach.

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Speaker 4: Preshcott wants to dropped the ball over his head too

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Speaker 4: a tight hand, and Sweat takes it away and takes

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Speaker 4: it in for a touchdowns up tick six by the

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Speaker 4: big man.

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Speaker 6: Coming off the edge.

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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know how many times we'll actually see

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Speaker 3: that or here Dave Pash call at Josh Wett pick six,

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Speaker 3: hopefully several times. But I don't think Paul. That's the

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Speaker 3: reason the Cardinals went out and made Josh we a

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Speaker 3: priority at the beginning of free agency. They want someone

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Speaker 3: to go and effect the quarterback and if by chance

615
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Speaker 3: he shows his athleticism and jumps and gets the football, okay, great,

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Speaker 3: But how about you knock that quarterback down.

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Speaker 4: On the ground and you know what? Uh he Look,

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Speaker 4: he's proven it. He's been to a Pro Bowl. He's

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Speaker 4: had a breakout year under Jonathan Gannon with eleven sacks.

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Speaker 4: And when we asked him the money question here on

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Speaker 4: the over on the Big Red Rage a couple of

622
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Speaker 4: weeks ago, we're like, wait a minute, what about the

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Speaker 4: whole narrative, the noise that the Eagles defense was so

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Speaker 4: loaded dot dot dot com that it was the rising

625
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Speaker 4: tide that lifted all boats and elevated everyone. And he

626
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Speaker 4: sort of stood up in his chair a little bit

627
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Speaker 4: and he said, you know what, we had the best

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Speaker 4: defense in the league, and I led that defense in sacks,

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Speaker 4: and we actually sacrificed for each other because it was

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Speaker 4: about winning. And so if I was chasing stats, it

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Speaker 4: could have looked a lot different, but I didn't, And

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Speaker 4: I thought that was a really just a really good

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Speaker 4: response and just how that Eagles defense did end up

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Speaker 4: being number one in the league, and they saw it

635
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Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl. They took down the great Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, Josh,

636
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Speaker 4: what two and a half sacks in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: Eight sacks in the regular season. I do think Drew

638
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Speaker 4: it was the one big question, and maybe a couple

639
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: of big questions that the Cardinals had going into the offseason.

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Speaker 4: Who was going to be that guy defensively along that

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Speaker 4: front seven that was going to bring fear or at

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Speaker 4: least attract attention from opposing quarterbacks. You break the huddle,

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Speaker 4: you talk about all the time, Okay, where is fifty five?

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Speaker 4: That was Chandler Jones when he was Okay, Cardinals didn't

645
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Speaker 4: have that last season, and you hope that they have

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Speaker 4: it now with Josh what Well.

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Speaker 5: I would go even further back than saying when's the

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Speaker 5: last time they had when it probably was Chandler Jones

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Speaker 5: of somebody you're striking fear of and sliding protection towards. Right,

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Speaker 5: I mean to be honest with you, they've been searching

651
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Speaker 5: for that because those guys are very very hard to find,

652
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Speaker 5: and like I said, you usually don't let them out

653
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Speaker 5: of your building. And so a guy like that, not

654
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Speaker 5: only you take all of the athleticism and everything that

655
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Speaker 5: he has on paper.

656
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Speaker 6: Right.

657
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Speaker 5: The thing that I love to hear, right, is what

658
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 5: PAULI was alluding to, the veteran presence and confidence and

659
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 5: security that he can then bring to this team now

660
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 5: on his approach to the game. The selflessness. That's what

661
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 5: I love to hear, because again, defense, when you're only

662
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 5: rushing for it's about attitude, it's about effort, want to

663
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 5: and doing your job. And those are all things that

664
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Speaker 5: when you come in and you set the tempo on

665
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 5: how you work and it doesn't just happen on Sundays.

666
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 5: It's the off season program, it's how you study film,

667
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 5: it's all these things. When you can get a valuable

668
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 5: veteran that has bought into the system before and knows

669
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Speaker 5: what it looks like, and it is confident as approach

670
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 5: that can affect an entire an entire defense, not just

671
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Speaker 5: the defensive line, because all of a sudden it presents

672
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 5: more opportunities. You start doing line games, you start doing

673
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Speaker 5: all these different things of a guy that's put an

674
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Speaker 5: amazing resume together on tape is now bringing that entire

675
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Speaker 5: swagger to a defense that has so direly needed it.

676
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Speaker 4: How many times in the last two seasons has Nick

677
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: Rowl has truly been able to rush for and affect

678
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: the quarterback as it happened a whole lot. That's why

679
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 4: we coin the whole eleven card pickup, Like eleven dudes,

680
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: where are they going to be? He's had to dial

681
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Speaker 4: up to who the when? You know the where? Okay,

682
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Speaker 4: but now it's just what what happens when you can

683
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Speaker 4: get home with four guys? I think that's where this

684
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Speaker 4: defense elevates.

685
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and you just start bringing more guys until

686
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: they do get home. Right, So when you only have

687
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: to bring four and you feel good about it, much

688
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Speaker 5: like we saw in the super Bowl, that's where you

689
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 5: can gain a huge advantage because then you are messing

690
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 5: with guys and you can start fake hug, rushing and

691
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 5: doing different things. When you can get home with FOURD,

692
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 5: you don't have to continually bring guys to the party

693
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 5: or manufacture a rush that doesn't exist. And that's again

694
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Speaker 5: from a quarterback standpoint, that's your worst nightmare. When you

695
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 5: know pressure's coming and you line up, for instance, right

696
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 5: when you line up and empty, that's going to show

697
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: a defense's hand. They have to be able to cover down.

698
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 5: You have to know, okay, is this a zone pressure,

699
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 5: is this a man pressure? Is this an all out

700
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 5: blitz that's going to show you the spacing you need.

701
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 5: When you have the ability to disguise things and only

702
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 5: bring for and create pressure in there, it makes a

703
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 5: quarterback have to sit there and really account for all

704
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Speaker 5: portions of the field. And from a quarterbacks perspective, again,

705
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 5: we try to break the field into half when we're

706
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Speaker 5: sliding protection or doing different things. We're not chameleons. We

707
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 5: can't see out of both sides of our eyes. So

708
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 5: we tried to lock down one side and say I

709
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 5: feel really good about this side. When you have two

710
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Speaker 5: elite pass rushers, when you have the ability to get

711
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 5: up the middle pressure or on the edge. That creates

712
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 5: problems because you can't account for that. That's just pure

713
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Speaker 5: effort and really presents so many more problems than saying, Okay,

714
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Speaker 5: we're gonna bring five, we're gonna bring six, we're gonna

715
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Speaker 5: bring seven. Right you start doing that, it's like we

716
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Speaker 5: get the ball out there, you're exposing yourself on the

717
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Speaker 5: back end.

718
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Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon Nick Rulis both know what Josh Wet is

719
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Speaker 3: capable of doing. Last week, Paul on the Big Red Rage,

720
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Speaker 3: you had a chance to speak with Eagles insider Daves

721
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Speaker 3: Bodero talking about Josh Wett. Yeah, he can rush the quarterback,

722
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Speaker 3: but you have to be able to get to those

723
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Speaker 3: positions or those situations where you rush the quarterback. So

724
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Speaker 3: the question was asked, is Josh what a three down player?

725
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

726
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Speaker 5: He is.

727
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Speaker 6: He was here, and you know Eagles have some depths,

728
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 6: so they rotate. I mean, like ideally you would like

729
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 6: to rotate your defensive lineman. But he can play three downs.

730
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Speaker 6: He has shown that in the past. He plays the

731
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Speaker 6: run well, sets the edge nicely, and is very technically sound.

732
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Speaker 6: So you would like to have some depth there. You

733
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Speaker 6: want to throw as many fastballs at the offensive line

734
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Speaker 6: as you can. But josh is very capable of doing

735
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Speaker 6: that if need be.

736
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Speaker 3: Joshuaed was on the field for nearly sixty percent of

737
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Speaker 3: the defensive snaps last season. But you what you don't want, Drew,

738
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Speaker 3: is you don't want a certain player on the field

739
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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden that quarterback knows exactly what's coming. Well,

740
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Speaker 3: because it's third down, here comes josh What, Well, he's

741
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: gonna rush. You want to be able to not give

742
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Speaker 3: the offense a tell, and that can mean all right,

743
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Speaker 3: we're not switching up personal. Yeah, you want to rotate

744
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: a little bit, but maybe you don't rotate on a

745
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Speaker 3: particular series.

746
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you got to keep guys fresh. You've got

747
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 5: to be able to do that. Again, sixties probably lower

748
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 5: than what we're going to see from him now. I

749
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Speaker 5: would imagine that he'll be out there far more than that.

750
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Speaker 5: But you also don't want to get him out there

751
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 5: too much. I remember being in Cleveland with Miles Garrett.

752
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 5: You're like, I want this guy out here every single snap,

753
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Speaker 5: And I remember talking to a personnel guy, actually, Elliot Wolf,

754
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 5: who's the GM now for the new England Patriots, and

755
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 5: I was like, he was like, he's playing too much.

756
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Speaker 5: And I was like, what do you mean, He's getting

757
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 5: paid so much money he needs to be playing and said, no,

758
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Speaker 5: at the end of the game, we need him to

759
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Speaker 5: be able to rush the passer and be able to

760
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Speaker 5: get after the quarterback. Yes, he's great at stopping the run,

761
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Speaker 5: but he's eating double teams the entire game. That's going

762
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 5: to take a toll on you. And you are the

763
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Speaker 5: perennial pass rusher on that team. We are going to

764
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Speaker 5: try to stop you. As I talked about earlier in

765
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Speaker 5: the show, right, that is what everybody's looking to do.

766
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Speaker 5: How do I negate this game record? Right here? That's

767
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Speaker 5: going to be Josh sweat for.

768
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Speaker 7: Us this year?

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Speaker 4: He easily could have been the Super Bowl MVP. Two

770
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Speaker 4: and a half sacks, you know, three quarterback hits. And

771
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Speaker 4: he was asked during his press conference, you know, the

772
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Speaker 4: welcome intro to the Arizona media, Okay, how why you

773
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: know what do you attribute your big game to? And

774
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 4: he just said Vic Fangio said, go just go unleash,

775
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 4: just go after him. We're going to attack Patrick Mahomes

776
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Speaker 4: and then later revealed that's exactly how Jonathan Gannon and

777
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Speaker 4: Nick Rowlis used him in Philadelphia. So I am very

778
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Speaker 4: curious when he's out on the field, is he just

779
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 4: going to be unleashed and allowed to fly around with

780
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Speaker 4: abandon because to hear Josh Sweat taught, that's when he's

781
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Speaker 4: at his best.

782
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Speaker 3: Those two seasons that JG and Nick Rulis were in

783
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Speaker 3: Philly with Josh Wet twenty twenty one, Pro Bowl year

784
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two a career high eleven sacks. So maybe

785
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Speaker 3: it is a little bit more of that. Okay, your job,

786
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: go get the quarterback and we focus on the sacks.

787
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Speaker 3: We taught focus on the quarterback hits. But according to

788
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Speaker 3: Daves Banero, again, it's more than just the sacks and

789
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 3: getting to the quarterback for Josh Wet.

790
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Speaker 6: If you are judging Josh Sweat on the number of

791
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Speaker 6: quarterback sacks that he brings to the table, you're missing

792
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Speaker 6: out on the other parts of his game that he

793
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 6: does well. The consistency. You know, the clip that you

794
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 6: played the interception of Dak Prescott in the return was

795
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 6: a play where Josh reddit Josh read what Dak was

796
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Speaker 6: going to do, started his pass rush, dropped into coverage,

797
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 6: made the interception, and then showed his athletic ability to

798
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Speaker 6: get to the end zone. That's the kind of player

799
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Speaker 6: he is. He's not going in there just to rack

800
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Speaker 6: up the sack numbers. He's going in there to win

801
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 6: football games.

802
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Speaker 3: The other aspects of this, Drew is what does s

803
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Speaker 3: what's presence mean for the guy on the other side,

804
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 3: whether that's Baron Browning or b jo Jo Lauri or

805
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: Zavon Collins or the secondary, because now all of a sudden,

806
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 3: that quarterback does have nearly as much time to throw,

807
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: and now everyone else's games maybe gets elevated a little.

808
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 5: Bit better, There's no doubt. And that's what I alluded

809
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 5: to earlier. He just elevates everybody else around him. And

810
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 5: you talk about that, and I also said this, you

811
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: start sliding protection to him, who's got the one on

812
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 5: one when you're one on one, And that was what

813
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: comes to mind with Chandler Jones is he had his

814
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 5: Marcus Golden Right. That's where we're relying on guys like that,

815
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Speaker 5: not only on the outside but also interior. When you

816
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 5: make a concerted effort to stop one guy, it frees

817
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 5: everybody else up to go out there and play a

818
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 5: higher level and to start accumulate stats. Yes, stats are

819
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 5: one thing, but being able to situationally understand how am

820
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: I going to be used on this pivotal third down?

821
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 5: How is my responsibility going to differ on first down

822
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Speaker 5: or second down or in a two minute when we

823
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 5: need to get a sack. All of those things play

824
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Speaker 5: into what he can bring to the table.

825
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Speaker 4: I mean, think about the possibility of T and E games, right,

826
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Speaker 4: whether it Arrius Robinson and Josh Sweat, just all the

827
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 4: athleticism and the explosion and what sort of combo those

828
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 4: two could become. But to dial it back to Drew's

829
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Speaker 4: original point, how do you get that guy now? The

830
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 4: stinking Rams last year got Jared versus nineteen. So maybe

831
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 4: there is a guy at sixteen, and maybe there is

832
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: an edge guy still coming. We don't know that, but

833
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 4: I do think the Cardinals and Cardinals fans and those

834
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: of us here we need to be thankful Cardinals had

835
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 4: a competitive advantage in signing Josh Sweat because of Jonathan

836
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 4: Gann and Nick rolis right, and the way they're going

837
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 4: to use him, and the Cardinals are willing obviously to

838
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 4: pay top dollar. I mean they filled their biggest need

839
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: with the biggest name and free agency.

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Speaker 3: Does GM Monti Austin for it though, now double down

841
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: when it comes to the draft along that defensive front

842
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: or there are other needs we would like to see

843
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 3: the GM search for as far as positions with those

844
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: six draft picks. We'll talk about that next here on

845
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Speaker 3: the Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: Starting to six, Les Jackson always pass it get inflicted is.

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Speaker 3: Deck at the fully seven yard line.

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Speaker 1: Team Davis Gaither Plesscott to throw Flesher Hey is deckedun

849
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Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson flying through the middle of a sack to

850
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Speaker 1: start for Cleveland.

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Speaker 6: His sack.

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00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: Tomlinson in trouble down.

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00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: He comes Dalvin Tomlinson there and the ball came out

854
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: parts a trouble.

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Speaker 7: He is shot.

856
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: Josh Sweat with a sat he was under pressure again,

857
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: swung down the twenty nine yard line. Josh Sweat. Here

858
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 2: is Harris again and he gets Watt just nowhere to

859
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: go and Josh Sweat was there.

860
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: Here's Maholmes pressure right away in the hole is shut.

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Speaker 2: Josh Sweat gets home.

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Speaker 3: I had a free agency and this was at the

863
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Speaker 3: Scott and Combine Gia Monti Austin Ford mentioned that he

864
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 3: prefers to go into the draft knowing that all your

865
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: needs have been met. Can you answer this question, can

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00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: you go play a game right now? That question was

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Speaker 3: posed to him again earlier this week at the annual

868
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: League Meeting by our own Darren Urban, and Moni believes that, yes,

869
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: the Cardinals can go out and play a game right now.

870
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: With that said, however, drew the next availability to acquire

871
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: players with free agency kind of slowing down. Is the

872
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: draft coming up at the end of April. You've got

873
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: six picks. Is there a position where maybe you don't

874
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: quite feel as comfortable right now week one or is

875
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: it more all right? We need to build around the

876
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and look not just at twenty twenty five,

877
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 3: but twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven.

878
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

879
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 5: Well, I think everybody's looking at this draft and just

880
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 5: talking about the depth of it. It might not be

881
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 5: these perennial Pro bowlers that you're looking at it, especially

882
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 5: with where the Cardinals are drafting, right, can you find

883
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 5: the diamond in the rough? Can you find these guys?

884
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 5: But really, when you assess how you approach the draft,

885
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 5: right you want your top four round draft picks being

886
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 5: able to without a doubt make the team and hopefully

887
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 5: have some kind of an impat and then you roll

888
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 5: the dice on those later picks, whether it's character, whether

889
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 5: it's injury, whether it's something they're filling a knee type

890
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 5: of thing to add depth. Right, again, the offensive philosophy,

891
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 5: the defensive philosophy. Do you have to add a kicker?

892
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 5: Do you have to add a punter? I mean, even

893
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 5: to Paully's point, right, do you add a long snapper

894
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 5: that can now play on special teams?

895
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 8: Right?

896
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: Because that's becoming a real thing or an added bonus

897
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 5: of carrying the number that you do on your roster.

898
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 5: For me, I would always be adding a running back

899
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 5: and I always be adding a wide receiver.

900
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 7: Right.

901
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 5: But if I'm going to make a difference making type

902
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 5: of a draft pick, I'm always looking can I get

903
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 5: better upfront? Because that's where you win football games on

904
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 5: the offense and defensive line every single time, and just

905
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 5: by purely drafting and putting your eggs in that basket.

906
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 5: You look at a franchise like the Detroit Lions, You

907
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 5: look at what the Chicago Bears did in the offseason,

908
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 5: obviously with their transition of what they're trying to do.

909
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 5: There's just not enough guys in this league to go

910
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 5: around to ever make you feel comfortable for the offense

911
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 5: and defensive line. So if you have somebody that you

912
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 5: feel like fits your system on either side of the

913
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 5: ball that can make a difference, you go out and

914
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 5: get him.

915
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 4: I mean, could I see the Cardinals going corner at

916
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 4: sixteen overall? Craig, Yeah, I could see that. Will Johnson,

917
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: there's the latest NFL dot Com today, barn Right, the

918
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 4: Jim Thorpe Award winner from Texas. Okay, although he's more

919
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: of a nickel and I don't necessarily see that. You

920
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 4: better be a pure cover outside corner to go sixteen overall.

921
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: I would think, at least for Jonathan Gannon. However, I

922
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: do look at offensive guard now Evan Brown, and maybe

923
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: I call him the sleeper. Isaiah Adams, last year's Round

924
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: three pick who finished pretty dang well. Put some good

925
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 4: film out there. He gets stronger as that Zach Allen. Offseason,

926
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 4: he puts on fifteen good pounds of muscle, and boom,

927
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 4: he comes back a different player in near two. I

928
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 4: could see that, bod. If this draft is historically deep

929
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: and defensive lineman and even edge guys. I mean, do

930
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 4: you walk into a barbecue joint in order avocado toast?

931
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 8: No?

932
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 6: So you could do.

933
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 4: This is what this year is specializing in D line

934
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: edge players. So I think this is where my grabs

935
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: his plate and he loads up at sixteen and maybe

936
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 4: even forty seven because that's where they're getting. Is good?

937
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 6: All right?

938
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: Be honest with us, Paul, when was the last time,

939
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: remembe the first time you ever ordered the avocado toast?

940
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: I never have, but I was not too long ago.

941
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 4: Was at a lunch with mister Ron Wolfley and Kevin

942
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 4: Ray and one of those two ordered avocado toast.

943
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: I know which one was, Yes, you did know who wasn't?

944
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: It wasn't ordering that the guy who has very Natalie

945
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 4: attired on TV for Suns games. So I'm just saying, Drew, you.

946
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: Mentioned the first four picks as far as the first

947
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 3: four rounds well for the Cardinals at sixteen, forty seven,

948
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: seventy eight, and one fifteen, and then you've got a

949
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 3: fifth round pick and in the seventh round selection. So again,

950
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 3: the closer I get to the draft, the more and

951
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: more I'm like, Okay, it's got to be the line

952
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: of scrimmage and whether you're doubling up on what you

953
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 3: already have, those are the players that are going to

954
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: be here, knock on wood long term, and maybe you

955
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: kind of roll the dice on another position later on,

956
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: maybe on day.

957
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 5: Three, Yeah, exactly. And then also, like you also need

958
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 5: to understand that there's the guys that are going to

959
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 5: be undrafted free agents, right that you have to go

960
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 5: out and get in. Is it sometimes better to be

961
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 5: able to say, Okay, well we're going to spend that

962
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 5: seventh round picking a guy that we know that we like,

963
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 5: we've only got one. How do you get on the

964
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 5: phone and you start making those photo calls of saying, hey,

965
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 5: if you go undrafted, here's a great opportunity for you.

966
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: Right, we have what we have on paper.

967
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 5: There is not a lot of turnover on offenses we've seen,

968
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of opportunity here for you that

969
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 5: is intriguing to you guys, right, And so again, you

970
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 5: can go about it a lot of different ways, but

971
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 5: those first four rounds you need to make sure you nail.

972
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 5: And again, with the depth of this draft that we

973
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 5: have and what we're seeing, There's plenty of things that

974
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 5: are right for the picking.

975
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: And if the Cardinals go interior line at sixteen, I

976
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: would not be shocked at all at Tyler Booker out

977
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 4: of Alabama, Gray Zabel out of North Dakota State, Calvin

978
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 4: Banks junior out of Texas, a first team All American

979
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: who could then play right tackle. I could see that

980
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 4: in year number two. Think about the division last year,

981
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: think about Big Cat Williams, Leonard Williams and what he

982
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: did in those two games. He was a problem. He

983
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 4: was a headache. You have that Rams defensive front now

984
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 4: that is young and really talented. We know the Niners

985
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: what they believe John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan in building

986
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 4: that defensive front. So if you went on line at

987
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 4: number sixteen overall, I think that would be a great

988
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 4: direction to hit.

989
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 5: And I think that's a great spot to go guard

990
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 5: right because you can plug and play guards. Guards have

991
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 5: the ability to lean on their center for their calls

992
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 5: on the inside and they have the ability to just

993
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 5: then relay that call to the tackle and they're kind

994
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 5: of in between there right. It allows you to solidify

995
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 5: something very very quickly and play at a high level

996
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 5: and with the sixteenth overall pick. You're feeling good about it.

997
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: And you've got a veteran at center, a veteran at

998
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: right tackle, whether that's Jonah Williams or Kelvin Beacham to

999
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 3: where now you're coming in as a rookie.

1000
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 4: Maybe that pressure isn't all the way there. And that's

1001
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 4: where Drew doesn't have to explain to us. The Santa effect,

1002
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: right Santa Claus, where you get a guy and into

1003
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 4: your defensive lineman, righting your lap as a quarterback.

1004
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 3: If Drew wasn't here, you would have used that line

1005
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 3: and claimed it with your own.

1006
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 4: That's true. That's true. I can't really do that when

1007
00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 4: he's sitting here.

1008
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 8: Drew.

1009
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: It's good to have you back.

1010
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 5: Thanks, it's good to be back.

1011
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: Come back anytime. Doors always open. We'll see if he's

1012
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: back in next week or two week.

1013
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: Even though you demean the backup quarterback position, you know

1014
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: he looked past that to his credit.

1015
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,160
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