WEBVTT - Jets Training Camp Preview with Defensive Coordinator Jeff Ulbrich (7/25) 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.040 Represented by went Back Betty of the team Sports got 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:09.200 together at win by Eric Allen here inside the studio, 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:15.360 joined by one of my favorite interviewers interviewees here at one, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.880 Jeff Drive. That is defensive coordinator Jeff all Brick. Brick. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:21.720 How's your summer by It was fantastic. You know, got 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.680 some some time with the family and got to reset 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.080 a little bit and rest a little bit and uh 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.760 ready to roll. How much has changed since we were 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:35.199 talking down in Mobile, Alabama had the Senior Bowl. We 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.199 are from a personnel standpoint, for sure, we are a 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.479 different defense. Um. Absolutely love and appreciate the guys that 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:44.800 fought with us in year one and and a lot 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.559 of growth occurred individually collectively the whole deal. Um. But 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:53.160 we got some guys now that uh, um, we're extremely 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:57.040 excited about and uh it's gonna be uh, it's gonna 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:01.320 be a different year. You talked about numerous times that 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.800 not only do you guys have players who are physically talented, 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.720 but they bring a lot of intangibles on the field 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:13.080 and inside the room. Can you go on that, you know, 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.480 twenty plus years in the NFL now planning, coaching and 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.560 and uh and I don't want to sound over the 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:25.320 top here, but is absolutely UM the finest collection of 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.120 human beings from top to bottom that I've ever been around. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:35.120 UM character football character, off the charts, Guys that absolutely 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:40.560 love this game, obsessed by it. UM to assemble a 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.160 collective group that there is no turds, There is no 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.000 outlier regarding a guy that maybe doesn't love it, not 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.080 obsessed with it, not willing to put the work in. 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.000 It's really hard to find. It's just it's a tremendous 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:56.360 credit to Joe Douglas, tremendous credit to UH coach Robert 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.240 Sale and Uh, this entire organization really like refew using 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.240 to compromise when it comes to that. What does that 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.120 mean for you as a teacher, a guy who's installing 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.880 the defensive plan, the game plan, or who's gonna go 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:11.880 through all these installations throughout training camp. But to have 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.320 a collection of guys like this, it makes it fun. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.919 You know, you've got guys that they're you know a 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.320 lot of times you've gotta urge a guy to come 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:23.239 in extra. UM takes the extra time that it takes, 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.400 and and I want more. Uh, that is not the 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.320 case with this group. These guys are absolutely down for whatever. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.680 The extra is kind of part of their DNA, and uh, 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.639 it just makes it fun come to work every day. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:37.480 When you got a group like this, you said, a 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.680 good defense has to be feared. What do you mean 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.560 by that? Well, I think there there there's there's multiple 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.360 components to it. UM. I think the most obvious is 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.400 the physical component. Um, We've got to be a team 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.680 that is absolutely physical, and physical can be defined and 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.960 demonstrating a lot of different ways. UM. I think the 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.480 obvious is obviously the way you hate a guy. But 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.640 it's within the line of scrimmin it's getting off of blocks, 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.560 it's coming out of breaks, it's all that we do. UM. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:08.520 We've got to demonstrate that at all times. UM. So 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.639 that's a that's a big part of it. And then 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.880 there's a mental component to that, you know, as far 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.720 as being so precise in what we do and having 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:19.399 answers for all the issues that we potentially could have, UM. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.200 And then to have the ability to execute at the 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.880 highest level. I think that creates a level of fear, 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.919 especially within opposing quarterbacks and offenses. So an offensive coordinator, 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.240 So I think it's it's it's partly partly physical, it's 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:35.160 partly mental and m and I think we've got the 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.240 guys that are capable. I really do believe that we 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.720 have the guys that are capable to get that that 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:46.440 that accomplished. What's important of dictating on early downs. I 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.280 know that sounds so I'm elementary, but I go back 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.360 to Mike la Fleur. Last season, a lot of people 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.800 are questioning what is he doing, and it kept on 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.080 saying we need more plays and then that playbook is 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:03.800 going to expand. From a defensive coordinator's perspective, on the surface, 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:05.840 it looks like you have a lot of guys who 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.560 can really get after that quarterbacks. So if you have 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.760 teams in third and five, third and six, third and seven, 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.440 then what does it do for you with in terms 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.600 of opening it up? That's huge. Um, you gotta win 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.200 the early downs in this game. You gotta set yourselup 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:25.880 up with third and longer's. This league is just um, 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:28.599 it's so hard, the skill level so high, UM. The 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.360 ability that was so high for for an offense when 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.160 they get into that third and two to five window. Um, defensively, 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.120 it becomes hard to win in those windows, you know, 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.280 because you've got guys that can win the one on 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:44.240 ones you get you got. Um. You know, from a 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.719 pressure standpoint, it's hard to get there when the balls 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.200 coming out that quickly, you know, so it nullifies your 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.640 defensive line a lot. So, as you said, winning on 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.839 those early downs, creating those third and six plus um 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.440 downs is huge. UM. I really believe we have the 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.040 guys to get that accomplished. Now. Uh. You know there's uh, 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.479 there's there's a couple of philosophies and how you get 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.880 that done. Um, I think the one that we will 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.640 lean to and uh that I believe in and coach 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.159 all believes in is on those early downs, we're gonna 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:17.200 play simple, sound, fundamental football. UM. We're gonna play fast, 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.240 we're gonna play physical. Uh, We're not going to overload 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.320 our players with a whole lot um just so that 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:27.040 they can demonstrate all the stuff that we talked about, physicality, precision, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.039 all those things, you know, and then on on those 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.840 third and longers that will really give us the ability 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.520 to open up the playbook, just as the offense was 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:39.000 trying to get accomplished all last season. Um, that's when 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.800 you can really get a little bit more exotic with coverage, pressure, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:47.159 all those things. Now those defensive alignment really come to life. Um, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.440 And and from a back end perspective, you know it's 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:54.640 their job to to create that hitch for the defensive line. So, um, 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.800 it'll be exciting to get into those longer windows and 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.400 open up this playbook and really allow these players to 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.080 have some and getting after people. Where do you think 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.960 you have to be in terms of run defense? Obviously 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:07.839 you want to be a stout unit, but full runs 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:12.080 of Fogassi not here Solomon Thomas a big free agent edition, 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.320 and I think it's kind of slipped onto the radar 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:19.039 here c J. Mosley what he could do last year. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:22.359 If anybody had any doubt, he still remains one of 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.279 the final linebackers solutional Football League. I know you guys 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.000 love what you got out of Quincy Williams last year, 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.120 and he should only get better and then you have 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.400 some young pieces around that unit. But where do you 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.280 have to be in terms of this run defense? Yeah, 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.760 we we've we've got to be sound, we've got to 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.200 be physical, which I've ever already spoke on. But um, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.400 the big part is you just can't let teams really 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:50.599 get their run game established and rolling, because that's when 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.320 defense becomes very hard because not only you're struggling with 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:58.400 the run, um, you're you're creating certain shorts which aren't good. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.000 And then it opens up this whole can of worms 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.960 regarding play action. You know. So it's gonna be a 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.920 huge emphasis for us defensively to be better versus the run. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:11.360 Part of that is we've we've brought a new players 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.400 that's going to absolutely help that. UM. Part of that 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.160 is a second year in the system, especially from a 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:21.960 linebacker perspective, because uh, what this system has asked linebackers 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.720 to do in the past is so difficult from a 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:30.280 coverage standpoint that inevitably, especially year one within this system, UM, 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:32.880 there can be some hiccups. There can can be some 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.440 struggles in the run game because when I know I 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.400 gotta take Tyreek Hill on a on a vertical route 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.440 as a linebacker, I'm not so eager to jump in 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.760 my a gap and stop a run, you know, So 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.760 it takes It's like you overcorrect it first and you 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.880 play so passive in the run game because you're so 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.200 worried about the past stuff. And then year two you 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.600 start to settle down and start to really understand when 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.440 I have threats, when I don't have threats, when I 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.320 can be aggressive, when I can't be aggressive, you know. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.640 At the same time, Um, I think we've refined our 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.240 scheme in a in a way that that allows to 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.600 be more aggressive versus the run. So it's it's a 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.120 combination of a lot of things, but it's extremely important. Yeah, 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.440 what's the evolution of the scheme because you learn a 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.160 lot of things about your personality or one you come 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.680 in here, you work with Robert for the first time, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.640 and then you have this huge transformation in terms of 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.120 bringing in all these talented pieces in this offseason. Yeah, 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.840 it's interesting. Um, you know, you always have to evolve 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.480 in this league. You have to. There's just too many 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.640 bright offensive minds that are Uh it's funny. They used 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.760 to have their their beaters, their three beaters, there, four beaters, there, 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.920 six beaters, all those things, and it was kind of standardized. Um. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.880 Now you know, because of the the Michael Fleur's, because 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.520 of the Kyle Shanahans, because these guys that are really 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.280 go beyond what was the traditional way to beat things, 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:56.079 creating new problems for us defensively. Um. Really from their perspective. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.320 They went from trying to just beat us to really 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:02.000 understand us, and that's danger us, you know. So you know, 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.720 and when you have a strong understanding of a defense, 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:09.120 it really opens up your ability to beat the defense 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.719 in new innovative ways which really create problems for us. 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.720 So as they evolve, as they grow, as they create 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.200 more of these beaters for us, we have to evolve, 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.760 you know. So I think we really took a deep 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.480 dive and and really washed our scheme, and um, we 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.320 won't abandoned the base fundamentals of it, but some of 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:31.640 the coverage principles within it we definitely refined and and 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:36.560 tried to give our our players a better opportunity successful. So, um, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.360 I think it's gonna help us a lot too. Yeah, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.360 you're not. You're not gonna give away state secrets here 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.240 on the Even training camp. But one thing that I 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:48.240 always thought that was fascinating that Robert is stressed each 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.000 time I talked to him about coverages, is that there's 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.000 this notion that you guys in the backgend are always 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.880 playing zone and Robert always smiles and says, we play 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.600 a lot more man than effect, absolutely, and you have 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.600 personalit wise, if you really look at it, you have 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:10.720 even have more ability Adrian year or two to play man. Yeah, 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.400 it's uh, it's an interesting balance. You know. When you 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.760 look at the teams that major in man, when that 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.839 is the majority of what they play, Um, it can 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.760 be very good, it can be very successful, it can 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.200 work at a very high level. Um. But at times, 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.319 if you really look at the people that major in it, 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:31.440 at times they also give up some explosives, you know. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:37.600 And it is and uh, um, although we will play man, 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.600 and there's absolutely times where you have to play man, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.360 you know, like we talked about the third and short 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.120 windows where you gotta glove people up and challenge them 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:48.719 and and and stick to them. Um. I think we're 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.520 gonna still be a balanced team though. I think I 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.720 really believe the best brand of defense for this particular 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.800 group of guys and within this system is when you 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:02.160 have true balance. You know. That's not to say will 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.600 be all zone or a majority zone or all man 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.640 or I think when you find that that balance, Um, 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.880 that's when you keep offenses a little bit off platform 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.200 and they're not quite sure what they're getting. That's when 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:15.720 we play our best ball. That's when we give our 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.280 players the best opportunity to be successful. So, um, we 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.000 will play a little bit of all of it, you know, 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.360 and and uh and we'll get really good at it. 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.160 And um and when I say that, that doesn't necessarily 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.120 mean a lot of defense, you know, that just means 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.320 some variety of within what we do. That's all it is. Yeah, 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.440 you said more options. Win bet is not live in 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.319 New Jersey and they're bringing the excitement of win Las 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.120 Vegas to online sports betting, getting on all your favorite teams, 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.679 players and sports from boostep partlays to live in game 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.040 odds on every major sport. They have what you need 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.200 to win. 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And then 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.680 also from a coaching standpoint, I know you love coaching him, 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.679 but do you have to caution him, Hey, sometimes we've 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.480 got to just scale back a little bit. We're heading 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.160 in the right direction. Yeah, Like, Carl's a guy that 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:31.600 you gotta yell will because he will go at all times. UM. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.960 So excited to get him back, just not only the talent, 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.320 which is obvious and like you said, um, by far 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.000 the the m v P of last training camp. UM, 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.000 what he put out there, he was difficult to block 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:46.560 with and deal with every single day. Um. But he 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.560 is a guy that we I think we will have 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.400 to monitor because he is he's again, he's one of 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.120 these guys that is so obsessed with the game and 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:58.200 go so hard and has no um like, he only 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:01.600 does things one way. So because of that, we have 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:06.720 to be careful on the reps, the situations, the times 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.280 that we utilize him, and we really have to help 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.600 him help himself regarding that because he's a guy that 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.520 will will he'll work himself to death if he could, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.079 you know, because he loves the game, because he's such 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.640 a great teammate because he wants to create this amazing 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.679 legacy as a player and a person. Um, so we 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.719 got to kind of protect him fro himself a little bit, 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:27.480 you know. But at the same time, I know he's 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.000 so eager to get back out there, and um, because 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:32.720 of that obsession and love for the game. He loves 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.439 to practice and he loves to constantly refine his skill 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:40.040 and and evolve and grow and try new things. And uh, 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.840 he's really he's he's why you coach this game. How 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.959 cool is it to have him considering you just went 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.360 up in the draft and got Jermaine Johnson, of course, 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.040 and then can't come back in the fourth round and 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.440 get Michael Clemens, two guys that you like. But just 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.120 having a guy like lost in in the room and 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.640 watching him on the field and the way he prepares, 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.000 the way he takes everything is so serious. Yeah. He 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:05.319 just he creates such an amazing environment for these younger 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.960 players because he he provides the perfect model of what 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.000 it's supposed to look like as a pro. The way 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.200 he prepares, the way he takes care of his body, 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:17.920 the way he eats, the way he studies film. Um, Yeah, 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.720 he these these younger guys they don't know because they 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.560 don't know better, but they're they're so fortunate to have 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.840 a guy in the room that can show him, um, 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.040 exactly what it looks like to do it at the 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:32.320 highest level. The changing dynamic. At defense event, we talked 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:37.720 about the draft picks you resigned, Vinny Curry. Jacob Martin 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.440 comes over a free ag and say nobody's talking about him, 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.720 but he's gonna fit in great in this system. Um, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.480 you still have Bryce hoff Fear. I'm just wondering how 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.280 the dynamic changes in the middle now with the healthy 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.400 loss and and all these guys on the edge. And 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:59.280 I didn't mention JFM because he's got the versatility flip inside, 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.040 but what is it me for guys like Quinno Williams, 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.000 Solomon Thomas, Sheldon Rankins and jf IM When he goes inside, 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.280 it just gives us a lot of versatility, allows these 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.720 guys to play the style in which we're trying to 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:18.280 to play. Um, we absolutely like we And I know 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.560 I take key about this and I really can care 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.640 less that we rotate so much, you know, but UM, 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.360 I really believe and this is from a coaching perspective, 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.880 it's also because I played the game that to play 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.960 the style of defense we want to play, regarding the 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:36.720 effort to strain the toughness, um, that ability to go 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.280 all gas, no breaks, and make that come to life 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:44.200 in every way. Uh, rotation is necessary, you know, and 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.600 at times you just don't have the depth. You don't 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:50.320 have the guys that are capable of rotating and maintaining 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.360 the same level of play. Um, we have that now, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.440 you know. So it's gonna be really exciting to see 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.240 that come to life. These guys are gonna play with 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:04.880 their absolute hair on fire, like, um, knowing that. Okay, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.880 I play four plays, I play five plays, I can 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.200 come out and we're not gonna there's not gonna be 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.640 a big drop off to the next man. So, um, 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.320 the depth is absolutely critical, especially on the defensive line. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.760 Why do you think that comes with a bad connotation 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.280 sometimes when people are talking about some people and keeping 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.560 people fresh, But like, like you just discuss it. I 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.360 just don't understand. I get Quinn and Williams an elite talent. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.360 I get that Carl Lawson as an elite talent, but 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:38.040 you need everybody firing for four quarters, right. I was 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.720 talking to White Cotton about it a few weeks ago 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.840 during O T A S and he talked about the 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.280 number of reps that JFM played last season. Well, he 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.080 doesn't have to play that amount of reps, and you 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.640 can get more production out of him. That's right. I 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.120 just think it's human nature when you know you're in 0:16:55.200 --> 0:17:00.880 it for sixty seventy plays of defense, Like, regardless of 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.080 your makeup, regardless how much you love it, regardless how 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.640 tough you are, you know, what type of motor you have. 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:10.879 I think inevitably you hold back at times, you know, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.480 and and you know there's that internal conversation about okay, 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.000 when this is third and six, I need to go, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.560 you know, so on this second and eight, like maybe 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.800 this is my op too, to hold back a little bit, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.840 you know. And and when you really study the game, 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.919 even the best players, even the best of all time 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.160 in this in this game, you see him hold back 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:36.720 at times, you know, and especially from a deal line perspective, 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.440 because it's just so straining, it's so taxing, it's so 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.159 hard to to maintain, you know, the highest level of 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.400 play for sixty seventy plays. So I think when these 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.360 guys really have a full understanding that that I can 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.399 go hard and then I'm going to get sub that 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.880 I'm not going to be in here for sixty seventy plays. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:55.520 I think you get a better version of them. I 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.760 really do. And then when the critical moments come, third down, two, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.320 many it in the game like we're ready to roll, 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.479 we're ready to finish, We're ready to close the door 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.080 on somebody, Robert said, Sauce Garner can pretty much do 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.600 it all. He's gonna have to make an adjustment here 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.040 as he plays. He said. One of the things that 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:18.040 he pointed out was sometimes they can get free releases 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.159 and non a follow as opposed to college. Can you 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.840 talk about that transition and what he's gonna have to 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.680 prepare for. Yeah, that he's one of the guys that 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.000 I don't know what the percentage was, but it was 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:33.400 maybe the highest of all the draft eligible corners regarding 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.679 his his time being down in a press position. So 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.199 he lived in that world and he thrived in that world, 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.879 and um and obviously we're gonna allow him to do 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.520 that as often as we can. But at the same time, 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.800 in this league that you're gonna play teams that are 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.800 gonna create formations whether it's condensed formations, book alignments where 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.520 you gotta get off, whether it's stacks, bunches, whether they're 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.720 trying to free a guy out. Um, there's gonna be 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.639 times where he's not going to be able to be 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.720 in that press position. So it's gonna be a little 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.840 bit of adjustment for him, you know. But um, you know, 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.840 I'm hopeful we'll mix in enough zone, will mixing enough 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:12.679 stuff for him where um, he'll still be able to thrive, 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:14.479 He'll still be able to do his thing. And and 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.880 he's and he's saying all of that. He's still gonna 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:18.720 have plenty of opps to get down and press people 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.080 and kind of that's his superpower, you know, it really is. 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.679 And um, for us to not allow him to do 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:26.960 that as often as we can would be a huge 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.359 mistake on our part. Did anything surprise you about him 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:34.119 during the spring? You knew he was a sensational talent, 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.320 and he knew he was competitive, But even just me 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:42.880 watching from the sideline, it was like every play he 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:47.719 was getting after it. It wasn't some guys make that transition. 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.680 And there's a little bit of taking a step back 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.159 and absorbing, and I'm sure he's absorbing because I know 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.480 he can't get enough football. But with that being said, 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:01.399 he was on it right after people. He's the rare 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:07.359 guy that he refuses to repeat airs. He's just constantly growing. Um, 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.639 something happens out there that's out of whack and he 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.159 gets beat, or or maybe he doesn't get beat, maybe 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.240 the guys just more open than he'd like, and he 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.840 sprints over the sideline and it's Tony Odin, it's Marco 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.440 o'manuels myself, it's all of us, it's it's Coach Sala 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.080 like you know what happened there? Like you know he was. 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:32.679 He's an insane student of this game. He's he's got 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:34.640 a passion for it, love for it, but he's also 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.239 got the brain to ability and the ability to to 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.359 absorb it all to you know, so um, to see 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.240 him in the spring, that was probably the thing that 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:46.320 I was most surprised about, because we knew the athlete, 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.840 you know, we knew the athletic talent. We knew that, 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.600 and we had heard about the makeup, especially having Greg 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:55.760 Scrugs here who had been at Cincinnati, who gave us 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.600 a brilliant inside view of him from a guy that 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.560 had coached him at Cincinnati. UM, but still just to 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.760 see it and to see the consistency of it, to 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.040 see a guy first out on the field, last to leave, 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:12.399 to see a guy that was so UM, just just 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:14.240 obsessed with it, you know. And I don't know I'm 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:18.440 using that word a lot, but he's just he's he's 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.480