1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Represented by went Back Betty of the team Sports got 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: together at win by Eric Allen here inside the studio, 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: joined by one of my favorite interviewers interviewees here at one, 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Jeff Drive. That is defensive coordinator Jeff all Brick. Brick. 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: How's your summer by It was fantastic. You know, got 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: some some time with the family and got to reset 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: a little bit and rest a little bit and uh 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: ready to roll. How much has changed since we were 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: talking down in Mobile, Alabama had the Senior Bowl. We 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: are from a personnel standpoint, for sure, we are a 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: different defense. Um. Absolutely love and appreciate the guys that 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: fought with us in year one and and a lot 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: of growth occurred individually collectively the whole deal. Um. But 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: we got some guys now that uh, um, we're extremely 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: excited about and uh it's gonna be uh, it's gonna 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: be a different year. You talked about numerous times that 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: not only do you guys have players who are physically talented, 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: but they bring a lot of intangibles on the field 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: and inside the room. Can you go on that, you know, 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: twenty plus years in the NFL now planning, coaching and 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: and uh and I don't want to sound over the 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: top here, but is absolutely UM the finest collection of 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: human beings from top to bottom that I've ever been around. 24 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: UM character football character, off the charts, Guys that absolutely 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: love this game, obsessed by it. UM to assemble a 26 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: collective group that there is no turds, There is no 27 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: outlier regarding a guy that maybe doesn't love it, not 28 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: obsessed with it, not willing to put the work in. 29 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: It's really hard to find. It's just it's a tremendous 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: credit to Joe Douglas, tremendous credit to UH coach Robert 31 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: Sale and Uh, this entire organization really like refew using 32 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: to compromise when it comes to that. What does that 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: mean for you as a teacher, a guy who's installing 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: the defensive plan, the game plan, or who's gonna go 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: through all these installations throughout training camp. But to have 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: a collection of guys like this, it makes it fun. 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: You know, you've got guys that they're you know a 38 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: lot of times you've gotta urge a guy to come 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: in extra. UM takes the extra time that it takes, 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: and and I want more. Uh, that is not the 41 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: case with this group. These guys are absolutely down for whatever. 42 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: The extra is kind of part of their DNA, and uh, 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: it just makes it fun come to work every day. 44 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: When you got a group like this, you said, a 45 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: good defense has to be feared. What do you mean 46 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: by that? Well, I think there there there's there's multiple 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: components to it. UM. I think the most obvious is 48 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: the physical component. Um, We've got to be a team 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: that is absolutely physical, and physical can be defined and 50 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: demonstrating a lot of different ways. UM. I think the 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: obvious is obviously the way you hate a guy. But 52 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: it's within the line of scrimmin it's getting off of blocks, 53 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: it's coming out of breaks, it's all that we do. UM. 54 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: We've got to demonstrate that at all times. UM. So 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: that's a that's a big part of it. And then 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: there's a mental component to that, you know, as far 57 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: as being so precise in what we do and having 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: answers for all the issues that we potentially could have, UM. 59 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: And then to have the ability to execute at the 60 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: highest level. I think that creates a level of fear, 61 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: especially within opposing quarterbacks and offenses. So an offensive coordinator, 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: So I think it's it's it's partly partly physical, it's 63 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: partly mental and m and I think we've got the 64 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: guys that are capable. I really do believe that we 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: have the guys that are capable to get that that 66 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: that accomplished. What's important of dictating on early downs. I 67 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: know that sounds so I'm elementary, but I go back 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: to Mike la Fleur. Last season, a lot of people 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: are questioning what is he doing, and it kept on 70 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: saying we need more plays and then that playbook is 71 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: going to expand. From a defensive coordinator's perspective, on the surface, 72 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: it looks like you have a lot of guys who 73 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: can really get after that quarterbacks. So if you have 74 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: teams in third and five, third and six, third and seven, 75 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: then what does it do for you with in terms 76 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: of opening it up? That's huge. Um, you gotta win 77 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: the early downs in this game. You gotta set yourselup 78 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: up with third and longer's. This league is just um, 79 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: it's so hard, the skill level so high, UM. The 80 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: ability that was so high for for an offense when 81 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: they get into that third and two to five window. Um, defensively, 82 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: it becomes hard to win in those windows, you know, 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: because you've got guys that can win the one on 84 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: ones you get you got. Um. You know, from a 85 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: pressure standpoint, it's hard to get there when the balls 86 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: coming out that quickly, you know, so it nullifies your 87 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: defensive line a lot. So, as you said, winning on 88 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: those early downs, creating those third and six plus um 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: downs is huge. UM. I really believe we have the 90 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: guys to get that accomplished. Now. Uh. You know there's uh, 91 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: there's there's a couple of philosophies and how you get 92 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: that done. Um, I think the one that we will 93 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: lean to and uh that I believe in and coach 94 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: all believes in is on those early downs, we're gonna 95 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: play simple, sound, fundamental football. UM. We're gonna play fast, 96 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna play physical. Uh, We're not going to overload 97 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: our players with a whole lot um just so that 98 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: they can demonstrate all the stuff that we talked about, physicality, precision, 99 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: all those things, you know, and then on on those 100 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: third and longers that will really give us the ability 101 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: to open up the playbook, just as the offense was 102 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: trying to get accomplished all last season. Um, that's when 103 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: you can really get a little bit more exotic with coverage, pressure, 104 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: all those things. Now those defensive alignment really come to life. Um, 105 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: And and from a back end perspective, you know it's 106 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: their job to to create that hitch for the defensive line. So, um, 107 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: it'll be exciting to get into those longer windows and 108 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: open up this playbook and really allow these players to 109 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: have some and getting after people. Where do you think 110 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: you have to be in terms of run defense? Obviously 111 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: you want to be a stout unit, but full runs 112 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: of Fogassi not here Solomon Thomas a big free agent edition, 113 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: and I think it's kind of slipped onto the radar 114 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: here c J. Mosley what he could do last year. 115 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: If anybody had any doubt, he still remains one of 116 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: the final linebackers solutional Football League. I know you guys 117 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: love what you got out of Quincy Williams last year, 118 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: and he should only get better and then you have 119 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: some young pieces around that unit. But where do you 120 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: have to be in terms of this run defense? Yeah, 121 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: we we've we've got to be sound, we've got to 122 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: be physical, which I've ever already spoke on. But um, 123 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: the big part is you just can't let teams really 124 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: get their run game established and rolling, because that's when 125 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: defense becomes very hard because not only you're struggling with 126 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: the run, um, you're you're creating certain shorts which aren't good. 127 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: And then it opens up this whole can of worms 128 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: regarding play action. You know. So it's gonna be a 129 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: huge emphasis for us defensively to be better versus the run. 130 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: Part of that is we've we've brought a new players 131 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: that's going to absolutely help that. UM. Part of that 132 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: is a second year in the system, especially from a 133 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: linebacker perspective, because uh, what this system has asked linebackers 134 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: to do in the past is so difficult from a 135 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: coverage standpoint that inevitably, especially year one within this system, UM, 136 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: there can be some hiccups. There can can be some 137 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: struggles in the run game because when I know I 138 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: gotta take Tyreek Hill on a on a vertical route 139 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: as a linebacker, I'm not so eager to jump in 140 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: my a gap and stop a run, you know, So 141 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: it takes It's like you overcorrect it first and you 142 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: play so passive in the run game because you're so 143 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: worried about the past stuff. And then year two you 144 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: start to settle down and start to really understand when 145 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: I have threats, when I don't have threats, when I 146 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: can be aggressive, when I can't be aggressive, you know. 147 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: At the same time, Um, I think we've refined our 148 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: scheme in a in a way that that allows to 149 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: be more aggressive versus the run. So it's it's a 150 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: combination of a lot of things, but it's extremely important. Yeah, 151 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: what's the evolution of the scheme because you learn a 152 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: lot of things about your personality or one you come 153 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: in here, you work with Robert for the first time, 154 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: and then you have this huge transformation in terms of 155 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: bringing in all these talented pieces in this offseason. Yeah, 156 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: it's interesting. Um, you know, you always have to evolve 157 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: in this league. You have to. There's just too many 158 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: bright offensive minds that are Uh it's funny. They used 159 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: to have their their beaters, their three beaters, there, four beaters, there, 160 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: six beaters, all those things, and it was kind of standardized. Um. 161 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: Now you know, because of the the Michael Fleur's, because 162 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: of the Kyle Shanahans, because these guys that are really 163 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: go beyond what was the traditional way to beat things, 164 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: creating new problems for us defensively. Um. Really from their perspective. 165 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: They went from trying to just beat us to really 166 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: understand us, and that's danger us, you know. So you know, 167 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: and when you have a strong understanding of a defense, 168 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: it really opens up your ability to beat the defense 169 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: in new innovative ways which really create problems for us. 170 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: So as they evolve, as they grow, as they create 171 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: more of these beaters for us, we have to evolve, 172 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: you know. So I think we really took a deep 173 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: dive and and really washed our scheme, and um, we 174 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: won't abandoned the base fundamentals of it, but some of 175 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: the coverage principles within it we definitely refined and and 176 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: tried to give our our players a better opportunity successful. So, um, 177 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna help us a lot too. Yeah, 178 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: you're not. You're not gonna give away state secrets here 179 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: on the Even training camp. But one thing that I 180 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: always thought that was fascinating that Robert is stressed each 181 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: time I talked to him about coverages, is that there's 182 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: this notion that you guys in the backgend are always 183 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: playing zone and Robert always smiles and says, we play 184 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: a lot more man than effect, absolutely, and you have 185 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: personalit wise, if you really look at it, you have 186 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: even have more ability Adrian year or two to play man. Yeah, 187 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's an interesting balance. You know. When you 188 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: look at the teams that major in man, when that 189 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 1: is the majority of what they play, Um, it can 190 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: be very good, it can be very successful, it can 191 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: work at a very high level. Um. But at times, 192 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: if you really look at the people that major in it, 193 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: at times they also give up some explosives, you know. 194 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: And it is and uh, um, although we will play man, 195 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: and there's absolutely times where you have to play man, 196 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, like we talked about the third and short 197 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: windows where you gotta glove people up and challenge them 198 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: and and and stick to them. Um. I think we're 199 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: gonna still be a balanced team though. I think I 200 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: really believe the best brand of defense for this particular 201 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: group of guys and within this system is when you 202 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: have true balance. You know. That's not to say will 203 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: be all zone or a majority zone or all man 204 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: or I think when you find that that balance, Um, 205 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: that's when you keep offenses a little bit off platform 206 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: and they're not quite sure what they're getting. That's when 207 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: we play our best ball. That's when we give our 208 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: players the best opportunity to be successful. So, um, we 209 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: will play a little bit of all of it, you know, 210 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: and and uh and we'll get really good at it. 211 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: And um and when I say that, that doesn't necessarily 212 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: mean a lot of defense, you know, that just means 213 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: some variety of within what we do. That's all it is. Yeah, 214 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: you said more options. Win bet is not live in 215 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: New Jersey and they're bringing the excitement of win Las 216 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: Vegas to online sports betting, getting on all your favorite teams, 217 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: players and sports from boostep partlays to live in game 218 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: odds on every major sport. 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He was the best player on the field 229 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: by far last summer. How excited are you to get 230 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: him back here as we start training camp? And then 231 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: also from a coaching standpoint, I know you love coaching him, 232 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: but do you have to caution him, Hey, sometimes we've 233 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: got to just scale back a little bit. We're heading 234 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: in the right direction. Yeah, Like, Carl's a guy that 235 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: you gotta yell will because he will go at all times. UM. 236 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: So excited to get him back, just not only the talent, 237 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: which is obvious and like you said, um, by far 238 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: the the m v P of last training camp. UM, 239 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: what he put out there, he was difficult to block 240 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: with and deal with every single day. Um. But he 241 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: is a guy that we I think we will have 242 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: to monitor because he is he's again, he's one of 243 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: these guys that is so obsessed with the game and 244 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: go so hard and has no um like, he only 245 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: does things one way. So because of that, we have 246 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: to be careful on the reps, the situations, the times 247 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: that we utilize him, and we really have to help 248 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: him help himself regarding that because he's a guy that 249 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: will will he'll work himself to death if he could, 250 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: you know, because he loves the game, because he's such 251 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: a great teammate because he wants to create this amazing 252 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: legacy as a player and a person. Um, so we 253 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: got to kind of protect him fro himself a little bit, 254 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: you know. But at the same time, I know he's 255 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: so eager to get back out there, and um, because 256 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: of that obsession and love for the game. He loves 257 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: to practice and he loves to constantly refine his skill 258 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: and and evolve and grow and try new things. And uh, 259 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: he's really he's he's why you coach this game. How 260 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: cool is it to have him considering you just went 261 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: up in the draft and got Jermaine Johnson, of course, 262 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: and then can't come back in the fourth round and 263 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: get Michael Clemens, two guys that you like. But just 264 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: having a guy like lost in in the room and 265 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: watching him on the field and the way he prepares, 266 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: the way he takes everything is so serious. Yeah. He 267 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: just he creates such an amazing environment for these younger 268 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: players because he he provides the perfect model of what 269 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like as a pro. The way 270 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: he prepares, the way he takes care of his body, 271 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: the way he eats, the way he studies film. Um, Yeah, 272 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: he these these younger guys they don't know because they 273 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: don't know better, but they're they're so fortunate to have 274 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: a guy in the room that can show him, um, 275 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: exactly what it looks like to do it at the 276 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: highest level. The changing dynamic. At defense event, we talked 277 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: about the draft picks you resigned, Vinny Curry. Jacob Martin 278 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: comes over a free ag and say nobody's talking about him, 279 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: but he's gonna fit in great in this system. Um, 280 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: you still have Bryce hoff Fear. I'm just wondering how 281 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: the dynamic changes in the middle now with the healthy 282 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: loss and and all these guys on the edge. And 283 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: I didn't mention JFM because he's got the versatility flip inside, 284 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: but what is it me for guys like Quinno Williams, 285 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas, Sheldon Rankins and jf IM When he goes inside, 286 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: it just gives us a lot of versatility, allows these 287 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: guys to play the style in which we're trying to 288 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: to play. Um, we absolutely like we And I know 289 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: I take key about this and I really can care 290 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: less that we rotate so much, you know, but UM, 291 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: I really believe and this is from a coaching perspective, 292 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: it's also because I played the game that to play 293 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: the style of defense we want to play, regarding the 294 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: effort to strain the toughness, um, that ability to go 295 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: all gas, no breaks, and make that come to life 296 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: in every way. Uh, rotation is necessary, you know, and 297 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: at times you just don't have the depth. You don't 298 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: have the guys that are capable of rotating and maintaining 299 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: the same level of play. Um, we have that now, 300 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: you know. So it's gonna be really exciting to see 301 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: that come to life. These guys are gonna play with 302 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: their absolute hair on fire, like, um, knowing that. Okay, 303 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: I play four plays, I play five plays, I can 304 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: come out and we're not gonna there's not gonna be 305 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: a big drop off to the next man. So, um, 306 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: the depth is absolutely critical, especially on the defensive line. 307 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: Why do you think that comes with a bad connotation 308 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: sometimes when people are talking about some people and keeping 309 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: people fresh, But like, like you just discuss it. I 310 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: just don't understand. I get Quinn and Williams an elite talent. 311 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: I get that Carl Lawson as an elite talent, but 312 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: you need everybody firing for four quarters, right. I was 313 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: talking to White Cotton about it a few weeks ago 314 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: during O T A S and he talked about the 315 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: number of reps that JFM played last season. Well, he 316 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: doesn't have to play that amount of reps, and you 317 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: can get more production out of him. That's right. I 318 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: just think it's human nature when you know you're in 319 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: it for sixty seventy plays of defense, Like, regardless of 320 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: your makeup, regardless how much you love it, regardless how 321 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: tough you are, you know, what type of motor you have. 322 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: I think inevitably you hold back at times, you know, 323 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: and and you know there's that internal conversation about okay, 324 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: when this is third and six, I need to go, 325 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, so on this second and eight, like maybe 326 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: this is my op too, to hold back a little bit, 327 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: you know. And and when you really study the game, 328 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: even the best players, even the best of all time 329 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: in this in this game, you see him hold back 330 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: at times, you know, and especially from a deal line perspective, 331 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: because it's just so straining, it's so taxing, it's so 332 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: hard to to maintain, you know, the highest level of 333 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: play for sixty seventy plays. So I think when these 334 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: guys really have a full understanding that that I can 335 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: go hard and then I'm going to get sub that 336 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be in here for sixty seventy plays. 337 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: I think you get a better version of them. I 338 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: really do. And then when the critical moments come, third down, two, 339 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: many it in the game like we're ready to roll, 340 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: we're ready to finish, We're ready to close the door 341 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: on somebody, Robert said, Sauce Garner can pretty much do 342 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: it all. He's gonna have to make an adjustment here 343 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: as he plays. He said. One of the things that 344 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: he pointed out was sometimes they can get free releases 345 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: and non a follow as opposed to college. Can you 346 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: talk about that transition and what he's gonna have to 347 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: prepare for. Yeah, that he's one of the guys that 348 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what the percentage was, but it was 349 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: maybe the highest of all the draft eligible corners regarding 350 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: his his time being down in a press position. So 351 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: he lived in that world and he thrived in that world, 352 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: and um and obviously we're gonna allow him to do 353 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: that as often as we can. But at the same time, 354 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: in this league that you're gonna play teams that are 355 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: gonna create formations whether it's condensed formations, book alignments where 356 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: you gotta get off, whether it's stacks, bunches, whether they're 357 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: trying to free a guy out. Um, there's gonna be 358 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: times where he's not going to be able to be 359 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: in that press position. So it's gonna be a little 360 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: bit of adjustment for him, you know. But um, you know, 361 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful we'll mix in enough zone, will mixing enough 362 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: stuff for him where um, he'll still be able to thrive, 363 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 1: He'll still be able to do his thing. And and 364 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: he's and he's saying all of that. He's still gonna 365 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: have plenty of opps to get down and press people 366 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: and kind of that's his superpower, you know, it really is. 367 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: And um, for us to not allow him to do 368 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: that as often as we can would be a huge 369 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: mistake on our part. Did anything surprise you about him 370 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: during the spring? You knew he was a sensational talent, 371 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: and he knew he was competitive, But even just me 372 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: watching from the sideline, it was like every play he 373 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: was getting after it. It wasn't some guys make that transition. 374 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: And there's a little bit of taking a step back 375 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: and absorbing, and I'm sure he's absorbing because I know 376 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: he can't get enough football. But with that being said, 377 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: he was on it right after people. He's the rare 378 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: guy that he refuses to repeat airs. He's just constantly growing. Um, 379 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: something happens out there that's out of whack and he 380 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: gets beat, or or maybe he doesn't get beat, maybe 381 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: the guys just more open than he'd like, and he 382 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: sprints over the sideline and it's Tony Odin, it's Marco 383 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: o'manuels myself, it's all of us, it's it's Coach Sala 384 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: like you know what happened there? Like you know he was. 385 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: He's an insane student of this game. He's he's got 386 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: a passion for it, love for it, but he's also 387 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: got the brain to ability and the ability to to 388 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: absorb it all to you know, so um, to see 389 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: him in the spring, that was probably the thing that 390 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: I was most surprised about, because we knew the athlete, 391 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, we knew the athletic talent. We knew that, 392 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: and we had heard about the makeup, especially having Greg 393 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: Scrugs here who had been at Cincinnati, who gave us 394 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: a brilliant inside view of him from a guy that 395 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: had coached him at Cincinnati. UM, but still just to 396 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: see it and to see the consistency of it, to 397 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: see a guy first out on the field, last to leave, 398 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: to see a guy that was so UM, just just 399 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: obsessed with it, you know. And I don't know I'm 400 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: using that word a lot, but he's just he's he's 401 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: unique in that way. A lot of rookies just kind 402 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: of sit back and take their lumps and and steadily grow. Um. 403 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: I don't think he's down for that life Like he 404 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: wants it, and he wants it now, and he wants 405 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: to be great today. He doesn't want to just be 406 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: a player in this league. He doesn't want to just 407 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: be a starter. That that is like the farthest thing 408 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: from his brain. I think there's a huge part of 409 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 1: him and he's got the makeup to do it. From 410 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: a physical and mental emotional standpoint. He wants to be 411 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: the best in this game. How about the swagger in 412 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: the depth at that position you're talking about Sauce before 413 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: DJ read such a fascinating story and I know you 414 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: appreciate his work ethic and I just love that dynamic there. 415 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: But then you think about the cornerback group. You guys 416 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: are awfully high on Michael Carter. But now you've got 417 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: this depth that has developed. Suddenly feels like overnight, you 418 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: saw what Bryce All did last year in Brandon Knickles 419 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: instead have Javelin Gudry as well. So it's like he 420 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: got swagger, you got you got frontline big time ability, 421 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: but you have depth as well. Yeah, that's it's critical. 422 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: They're they're gonna happen. Um, people are gonna get hurt, 423 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: they're gonna get nicked, things are gonna happen. You have 424 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: to have the ability absorbing dream this league. You have to. 425 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: If you can't, uh, you're not going to have sustained success. 426 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: So the fact that we do have depth now is um, 427 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: it's very exciting. And we've got guys with a lot 428 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: of different skill sets, you know. So I think it's 429 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: going to give us the ability to to really adapt 430 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: to offenses at times regarding matchups, regarding you know, techniques 431 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: regarding calls that we can that we can utilize based 432 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: upon our superpowers. Um, you've got a guy in DJ 433 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: Reid who brings an edge. He brings is a dog 434 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 1: mentality that's very unique especially for that position. You know, 435 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: he's Uh, another guy that provides such an amazing example 436 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: for these younger players, especially from where he came from 437 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: and what he's had to overcome. And he's not a 438 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: guy that's just been given everything. You know, he wasn't 439 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: given anything from a college perspective, wasn't drafted super high, 440 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: got cut like all these things that have occurred to him. Um, 441 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: and still found a way to be a top tier 442 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: corner in this league. And he's still growing and he's 443 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: still just scratching the service what he what he can become. 444 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: So he provides so much for us in that way. 445 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: Obviously saw Uce, We already spoke on him. Um, you 446 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: got Brandon Eccles, who I I anticipate making a big 447 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: jump this year. He was a guy that, um, you know, 448 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: maybe going into the season, maybe he didn't think, maybe 449 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: we didn't think that he'd be a guy that we 450 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: were gonna have to count on for so much. You know, 451 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: he was a six round pick at a at a 452 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: Kentucky and all of a sudden he's thrown into the 453 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: fire and he's starting for us, and um doing a 454 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: heck of a job. And his guy that grew as 455 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: the year went on and became a better player. But 456 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: I always believe that rookies they're kind of just they're 457 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: they're they're trying to stay alive. They're trying to keep 458 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: their head up, you know, out of water, and and 459 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: and you're constantly got the sensation that you're being drowned, 460 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's the competition, the playbook, the length 461 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: of the season, all those things. Um. And then finally 462 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: the season ends, you finally have a chance to breathe. 463 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: And and that's where the growth occurs. Things start to 464 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: really absorb, things start to make sense. Um. And I 465 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: feel that from him, there's a new sense of confidence 466 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: about him, swagger, whatever that how you want to define it. 467 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna make a big jump. I 468 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: think Bryce is gonna make a big jump. You know, 469 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: we we we forget that he hadn't played a lot 470 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: of football prior of last year. And you know, obviously 471 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: he came in as a later draft pick, but then 472 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: had the injury and and wasn't available whole lot for 473 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: his rookie years. So he's gonna make a big jump. 474 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: So Michael Carter again another rookie who gets this offseason 475 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: to let things slow down for him and Um, I 476 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a much better player than he was, 477 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: although he played tremendously, especially for late round rookie playing 478 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: Nicol in this league, which is a huge task. Um. 479 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: So it's exciting. 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He played one 496 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: game last year, A lot of teams might event you 497 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: might have said, hey, listen, didn't work out, unfortunately, get 498 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: the injury and you know what the thirty at the 499 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: same time. But you guys brought him back and then 500 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: you bring in Jordan Whitehead, a guy's got championship I degree, 501 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: who's a thumper who potentially could be a tone setter 502 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: for that back end. Yeah, Um, LaMarcus was an easy 503 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: decision as far as I'm concerned, Um, just getting to 504 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: know him. I know we didn't have him for but 505 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of players of that first game, 506 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: but having the off season with him, his makeup is 507 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: his world class. Um, he's a great teammate, as a 508 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: great human beings, a great man, Um first and foremost, 509 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: so you just you want as many of those people 510 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: in your building. And then the player is Um. He's 511 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: a guy that, like, in my opinion, how we utilize 512 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: him exactly how he should be utilized. He's a safety 513 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: because he's got safety brain, he's got safety mouthpiece regarding 514 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 1: his ability to communicate and run a defense and make 515 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: all the checks and and and all the stuff from 516 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: a coverage perspective. But he's also guy that we're gonna 517 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: ask to play man at times. And the fact that 518 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: he's played nicol and corner and he's done that, been 519 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: asked that, done that at a high level makes him 520 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: the perfect candidate to play kind of that free safety. 521 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: But he's kind of out of his time, don't you think, 522 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: because a lot of people now think of safeties in 523 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: a corner like role at times. Absolutely. Yeah, this league 524 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: has become so coverage based, and um, you gotta have 525 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: versatility to get back there. You gotta have guys that 526 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: can do a little bit of it all zone man 527 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: and in everything in between. And uh, and he checks 528 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: those boxes for us. Plus another guy that for a 529 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: very young secondary, another guy that provides the example of 530 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: what the pro is supposed to look like. You know, 531 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: as much as we'd like to say as a coach, 532 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: we can still those those work habits and um, you know, 533 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: all the small things that make great pros. You know, 534 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing more powerful than them them seeing it and 535 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: it being demonstrated on daily basis. He provides that for us. 536 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: So to me, it wasn't easy. It wasn't it was 537 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: an easy you know. As as far as like why 538 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: we brought him back, Like I don't think anybody fought 539 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: with that, you know, that issue when we we we 540 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: addressed it this offseason. And then Jordan's whitehead brings swagger, toughness, um, 541 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, and like, I don't know how best to 542 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: describe this. He's just and I don't want to diminish 543 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: like what he is because I know him. I'm raving 544 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: about these guys because I love these guys collectively, but 545 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: he really is different. Like he's an edgy, tough like 546 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: you said, potential tone setter, physical safety, um, but at 547 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: the same time, has this like high level of like 548 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: kindness you know that just absolutely attracts people to him. 549 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: So he's a guy that's just like leadership comes easy. 550 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: And what I was going to ask you when you 551 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: were talking right now is like it's almost like I 552 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: don't know how much he's talking inside the room, and 553 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: he might be talking a bunch, but it seems like 554 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: he's soft spoken. But he's definitely somebody who other players 555 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: are gonna gravitate, you know, and because of that, he's 556 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: gonna have the ability to really bring people along with him. 557 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: And uh, he does have a coach's brain, like he 558 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: wants to know every little detail he wants to know 559 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: the why. And UM, guys like that are just hard 560 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: to come across, you know. Um, we're so fortunate that 561 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: we had the opportunity to sign him. Typically guys like 562 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: that and and I don't know what the situation wasn't 563 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: tampon a lot of times, it's money related, business related, 564 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: and who knows, But um, that's not typically a guy 565 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: that ever leaves a building. You know, he stays for 566 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: a long time, especially when people really understand his DNA 567 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: and his makeup. UM, so so fortunate that we got him, 568 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: and and he's gonna make us so much better on 569 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: the back end. And then there's other guys back there. 570 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: You're super excited about two. I mean, it's it's gonna 571 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: be a a dog fight to start. It's gonna be 572 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: a dog fight to make this team from that position, 573 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: whereas maybe last year we didn't have the same sort 574 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: of competition that we do now. So it's it's so 575 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: exciting from that standpoint because Elijah Riley is a guy 576 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: that just insane instinct and leadership and all all the 577 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: stuff that he brings. And UM, I thought, you know, 578 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: last year was really his first opportunity to play substantial 579 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: amount of reps from a defensive perspective. Um, and I 580 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: thought he did well, you know. And and then but 581 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: not making this transition from corner. Super excited about him 582 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: because it's like he has all the stuff that we 583 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: can't coach. He's got length, he's got speed, he's got physicality, 584 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: plays hard, he's tough. Um, the position is just still 585 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: new to him. This is gonna be just talking to 586 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Mark Ommanuel's coach, UM, who does a tremendous job with 587 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: those guys regarding like this is his first training camp 588 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: ever as a safety, you know, so we got to 589 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: remind ourselves that because that's not gonna always look perfect, 590 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: you know. And I think he gets that, and I 591 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: get that and gets that, you know. But but we 592 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: see this growth that's occurring every day with him as 593 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: he starts to under understand the position at a higher level. 594 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: So that's exciting. And then Ashton Davis, I think, you know, 595 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: here's a guy that got injured, you know, early in 596 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: his career, really didn't get an opportunity to like last 597 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: seas season as we prepared, you know, he wasn't with 598 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: us in the O t AS mini camps. He wasn't 599 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: Um a participant in the off season and then in 600 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: training camp even you know, I wasn't able to do 601 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: a whole lot. So when he eventually got the opportunity 602 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: to play and he had to play substantial amount of 603 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: rests for US, it was without a ton of work 604 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: within this defense. And that's hard, That's really hard. It's 605 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: hard to ask, my opinion, linebackers and safeties within this 606 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 1: system because there's a we put a lot of stress 607 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: on him. We asked a lot out of them, you know, 608 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: and um to see what he's gonna be capable of 609 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: now that things I think have slowed down a little 610 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: bit absorbed. He's got a lot of bank reps um 611 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: from last season and now an entire offseason with US. 612 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a big jump from 613 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: him as well. And then Will Parks do. I don't 614 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: want to miss on Will because um, Will is one 615 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: of those guys that, like, he brings that different level 616 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: of he's got experience obviously has played a lot of 617 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: football in this league, but he's got a different edge 618 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: to him. You know, he's a guy that, like I 619 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: don't want to diminish all the other stuff, but like 620 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna go fight in a dark alley, like 621 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: he's one of the guys that I'm taking with me. Yeah. See, 622 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: it's clear talking to you and other people inside the building, 623 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that people externally they fully have appreciated 624 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 1: that point just yet. Is that you guys are excited 625 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: where some people externally might be. Well, safety seems like 626 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: the question mark right now. You guys are genuinely excited 627 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: about this group, not just okay, yeah, we brought in 628 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: Whitehead and uh LaMarcus is going to bring a lot 629 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: of versatility to the table, but you just names. You 630 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: just want up and down that group in terms of 631 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: that pieces and how a lot of those guys are 632 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: still growing in there on the fight. Yeah, it's so 633 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be excited to see how it shakes out, 634 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, like is this Pannox here who knows you know, 635 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: like that that story hasn't been told yet, you know, 636 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: and he'll still that, he'll tell that story. But um, 637 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: it's exciting to see what that group will become. How 638 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: pumped are you? I'm super excited. This is especially like 639 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, as much as we struggled last year at times, 640 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: you know, I I absolutely put that on myself that 641 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: I didn't get the job done, I didn't do enough 642 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: for them to be successful. But I really believe another 643 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: year within this system for these players, for myself and 644 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: really gaining a deeper, deeper understanding of the answers that 645 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: are necessary to help them really unlock their superpowers. Um, 646 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: it's just it's exciting to think that we're gonna finally 647 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: like bring some true joy to these players as they 648 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: start to realize what they can become individually and collectively 649 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: as a defense, and to really bring the success and 650 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: that this fan base deserves, you know, because you know, 651 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: I've been a lot of places and been around a 652 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: lot of fan bases, and it's just one that has met. 653 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: As much as the Jets have struggled over the years, 654 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like they've they've left, you know, they've 655 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,479 Speaker 1: they They've kept their love and their passion in there 656 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: and um, their support of this team and this organization 657 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: through all the hard times. To think that we can 658 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: bring them a product that they're going to be really 659 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: proud of is exciting to me. But that speaks to 660 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: who you are as a coach. You said that maybe 661 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: there's some things that you think you can improve upon. 662 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: But one thing I think that we got to take 663 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: into account is you put your head down and during 664 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: the storm, you didn't change, you didn't waver. And it 665 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: is always stuck out to me that you said in 666 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: January that we could have took shortcuts, but in the 667 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: long run, that was not going to help us improve. 668 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: Now you've set yourself up to take that next step. Absolutely, 669 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: you know. And and I'm not saying our ways the 670 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: best way or the right way, but it's the way 671 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: that we chose, and and I think it's gonna pay 672 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: dividends in the long run. We could have absolutely fabricated 673 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: to make believe defense that would have um maybe helped 674 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: us within some games and and made some games a 675 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: little tighter and maybe pulled out a a win here 676 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: or there. But in the long run, I really want 677 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: these players to know that they're the answer, not me. 678 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm not the puppet master holding the strings over here. 679 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: They're the ones that are gonna make this defense come 680 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: to life. They're the ones. They're gonna create that defense 681 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: that is feared and and that brings pride back to 682 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: this organization, into this fan base, and and to them 683 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: individually as as as human beings and men and the 684 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: privlemen that they are. So you got a really cool 685 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: staff to do. Yeah, and how much did you guys 686 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: grow together last year? And man, it just seems like 687 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: and you point them out continually here as we talk, 688 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: but it just seems like everybody's totally together in mindset. 689 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: It's so it's the absolute truth. Mike Rutenberg, who does 690 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: a fantastic job with the linebackers, mark on Manual coaches 691 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: our safeties. Tony Oden who does an excellent job with 692 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: those corners, and what a task he was asked to 693 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: do last year, you know, to coach so many young 694 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: guys up on the fly. Um. Ricky Manning Jr. Like 695 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: we're so fortunate to have this guy who's played the 696 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: position of nickel at the highest level, maybe one of 697 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: the premier nickels that have ever played this game, really has. 698 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: He's one of the guys that kind of put it 699 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: on the map, him in Ronde Barber and and some 700 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: of those original guys. Um. And then to have Aaron 701 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: white Cotton with such a deep understanding of this front 702 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: and now to bring in Greg's scrugs and um, and 703 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: then Matt Willingham another fantastic addition who who he's kind 704 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: of be in a support position, but he's gonna help 705 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: with the linebackers and help a lot of different places. 706 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: Help myself. UM. You know this business, any business, when 707 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: when times are hard and you're going through struggles and adversity, UM, 708 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: I feel like the normal thing amongst groups is there's 709 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: always gonna be a little bit of people deviating from 710 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: the plan, people protecting themselves. UM it's not my fault, 711 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, and and creating pockets and division and that 712 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: whole thing. We saw absolutely none of that last year. Um. 713 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: We put our arms together, put our heads down, stayed together, UM, 714 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: worked our butts off to help these players as as 715 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: best we could. And U and for that, I will 716 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: be forever, forever grateful for the staff to final ones 717 00:37:55,080 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: and the schedule. When you saw Baltimore week on in 718 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and just the way it sets up with 719 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: the f C North, what goes through your mind those 720 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: four weeks and getting ready for the start of the season. 721 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: It's uh, definitely a fantastic challenge for us, you know, 722 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's how we've all approached it. Player 723 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: and coach alike. UM, but it it definitely there's a 724 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: level of banks as there's there always will be, you know, 725 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: like there especially with the Baltimore who is so unique 726 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: in what they do, and they present so many challenges 727 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: that you don't see a week to week. And when 728 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: you got a quarterback of that caliber, with the mobility 729 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 1: and the speed that he has, UM, it creates issues 730 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: that just aren't normal. You know. So from that standpoint, UM, 731 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: you can't simulate it. But is it better that you 732 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: can get him a week one? Uh? You know, it's 733 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: They're always gonna be a challenge. I know it's a 734 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: crazy question. But at the same time, it's like, oh, 735 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: at least we can practice a little bit on this 736 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: during some of these training camp sessions. Yeah, that helps 737 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: little bit. But like you said, it's so hard to simulate. 738 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: You know, UM gone against him twice now from a 739 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: coaching perspective, and UM, and what you see on Sundays 740 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: is Uh is real and it's legit and it's different, 741 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: you know. And and he's got a um ability to 742 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: play the position differently than maybe it's ever been played. 743 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: And Uh, he brings a level of athleticism that just rare, 744 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a fantastic challenge. But um, at 745 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: the same time, like just knowing the makeup of this 746 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: defense and from players and coaches like we're gonna be 747 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: ready and we're excited about it. And um, what a 748 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: great platform to to get the season started with. Ye 749 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: and I just want until then, we got a lot 750 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: of work work. I just want to end it here. Um. 751 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: There were so many topics that we didn't get too 752 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: because you're you're too good to be honest with you. Um. 753 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: Robert defensive coach, UM all the way going back and 754 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: obviously before he got this job, proceeding the Jets defensive 755 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: coordinator in San Francisco, he tabs you to be the 756 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: defense the coordinator. One of the first statements he has 757 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 1: asked or one of the first questions he has who's 758 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: calling a place? So I'm not calling a place and 759 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: he hires you. Um. How how much did he provide 760 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: in terms of balance, like you throwing things off him, 761 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: ideas and also how did that relationship evolve and continue 762 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: to involve. Yeah, it's huge to have that type of 763 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: resource in the building to to throw ideas against um, 764 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, to get advice from uh, during the week 765 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: of preparation, during practice, during game planning obviously, and then 766 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: on game days. Just it's invaluable, you know. And it's 767 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: one that I'll be forever grateful for. Um, I really believe, like, 768 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: and I got so much to learn still and I'm 769 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: still growing in every way teaching and knowledge of the 770 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: game and my database of defense and the whole thing. 771 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: But but I'll be forever grateful for the education of 772 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: defense that he gives me daily and that he's given 773 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: me so far. So UM, he just gives me the 774 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: ability to grow every day. Uh and um because of him, 775 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: I'll really be able to be the best version of myself, 776 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's a very it's a very 777 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: cool relationship that I'm fortunate to have. Let's go out 778 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: on this one. You've got a favorite training camp story. Um, 779 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 1: you broke into the league when they're still doing two days. 780 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: You got anything that stands out that mm hmm. The 781 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: training camp which was my last with Mike Singletary as 782 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: the head coach. He uh, he brought us back to 783 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: the essence of football and uh with that meaning physicality 784 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: and um, he really he took that idea that it 785 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 1: was going to be the players that make this thing 786 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: come to life, more so than maybe any coach I've 787 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: ever been around in my life. And um, I mean 788 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: put it this way, we started every practice with either 789 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: like Nutcracker or Oklahoma. Like it was. It was as 790 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: throwback as it gets, and it was as tough as 791 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: it's ever been around. And and uh, yeah it was. 792 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: It was an adventure. It was definitely tough, and and 793 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: but I got to really I'm still so fortunate that 794 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: I went through it, though, because it you really gained 795 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: an appreciation for the men that have that have laid 796 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: the foundation of of what this league stands for and 797 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 1: what is what is all about? And uh, you got 798 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: to walk the walk of of those guys for at 799 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: least a training camp, you know. So I'll be forever 800 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 1: grateful for him for that. But times have changed, haven't 801 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: There's none of that. There's no Oklahoma, there's no tackling, 802 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: there's no double days, there's no nothing. So but ultimately 803 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: absolutely the best thing. Like I don't want to ever 804 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: say that we need to go back to that way 805 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: of life, because I think, um, this emphasis on player 806 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: safety is just absolutely necessary and it's it's the right 807 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: way to do things. This was fun it always is. 808 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. I appreciate you. Thank you, M M