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Speaker 3: This he is Talking Cowboys Straining live from the.

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 4: Dot tixixdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 4: John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 5: It's a Monday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black

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Speaker 5: Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas,

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Speaker 5: in the s WBC studios. Welcome in, everybody. We have

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Speaker 5: an earlier edition of the show this week because this

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Speaker 5: guy right here, Nick Harris is going to the NFL Combine.

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Speaker 5: Alry guys, John Michoda is already at the NFL Combine

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Speaker 5: and Isaiah Standback is climbing mountains in Mount Kilimanjaro currently,

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Speaker 5: So we'll see which one do you feel like is

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Speaker 5: more productive? Is it the NFL Combine trip or is

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Speaker 5: it the fact that Isaiah's climbing mountains or the fact

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Speaker 5: that I'm a fathers Dan.

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Speaker 6: I was just about to say either the fact that.

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Speaker 5: A weird week for Talking Cowboys, But yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 5: definitely a little.

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Speaker 7: Bit of a different feel for sure.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, how's a feeling.

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Speaker 7: It's good.

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Speaker 5: So Lurina gave birth to three healthy triplets h here

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Speaker 5: at thirty weeks on the dot on Friday. Uh, she's

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Speaker 5: probably gonna say something a little bit because we haven't

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Speaker 5: really released names yet. But if you're watching Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 5: you're you're a part of the family. And so I'll

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Speaker 5: give you the first names we have, Leo Michael. Those

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Speaker 5: are the two boys and they are identical boys. And

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Speaker 5: then we've got no well, so those are that's my

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Speaker 5: baby girl. So proud dad. You got the dad gang

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Speaker 5: going on here. I'm ready to rock. And babies and

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Speaker 5: mama are doing great at work right now because we

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Speaker 5: have much more capable in ICU. Nick you family taking

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Speaker 5: care of our babies at the moment. And then mom

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Speaker 5: is doing great.

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Speaker 6: So that's awesome. Yeah, everything's awesome.

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Speaker 5: We're super blessed and just continue to appreciate the support

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Speaker 5: from everybody and all the prayers and love that that

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Speaker 5: Talking Cowboys and Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: Nation have sent our way. I feel like it's the

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Speaker 6: new Cowboys triplets, That's what it is.

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Speaker 7: That's what we keep calling. So really excited. I don't

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Speaker 7: have any pictures to show.

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Speaker 5: You right now, just because they're in the nick you

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Speaker 5: and things like that. I might show you some some feet,

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Speaker 5: some footprints. We've got some footprints coming up soon. We

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Speaker 5: got those this morning, so we'll probably show that soon.

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Speaker 7: But everything's good, man.

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Speaker 6: I love to hear it.

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Speaker 5: It's a different a different way of life. I was

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Speaker 5: talking with Beamer beforehand. Beamer has some children as well,

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Speaker 5: and of course it's been a dad for a long time,

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Speaker 5: and I've always looked up to Chris be and so

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Speaker 5: we were even talking about how crazy it gets at times,

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Speaker 5: and it's it's going to be a blast, and they.

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Speaker 7: Have no choice but to be Cowboys fans.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I remember back in like week gosh, I think it

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Speaker 8: was like week five or week six, Kyle had facetimed

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Speaker 8: me and I knew that he was going they were

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Speaker 8: going in for an ultrasound and he typically doesn't FaceTime me,

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Speaker 8: so he's facetiming me. He's like, guess what, and I'm

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Speaker 8: thinking in the back of my mind, oh my god,

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Speaker 8: he's having twins. I was like, are you having twins?

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Speaker 8: He's like, I'm having triplets. Like, you gotta be kidding.

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Speaker 8: It's crazy how fast it went man. It's it's cool

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Speaker 8: to see him here, but we better stop talking personal

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Speaker 8: life for the YouTubers are going to be very upset

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Speaker 8: that we're talking about our personal Yeah, on here.

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Speaker 6: That's okay.

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Speaker 7: We'll talk plenty of Cowboys football we've got.

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Speaker 5: It's an off season addition, it's a little bit different

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Speaker 5: if you want to be a part of.

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Speaker 6: The conversation though.

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Speaker 7: Eight one seven two nine zero three two nine eight

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Speaker 5: We're not going to take any calls today. We've done

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Speaker 5: that the last couple of weeks. We'll get back at

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Speaker 5: Send us some text messages as we'd love to hear

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Speaker 5: and notes. Yeah, what's going on around Cowboys Nation?

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Speaker 8: Man, I feel like there's so much that that we

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Speaker 8: like we really dove into that couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 8: Mike Zimmer has been able to fill out his defensive staff,

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Speaker 8: and there was also an offensive assistant higher that was

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Speaker 8: a quality control guy that would actually be able to

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Speaker 8: kind of pitch in on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 8: But we'll go ahead and start on the offensive side

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Speaker 8: of the ball with that hire that was made basically

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Speaker 8: just an offensive assistant. Will Harriger was an offensive assistant

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Speaker 8: on the staff last year. He took the quarterbacks coach

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Speaker 8: job with the Carolina Panthers on that new staff. So

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Speaker 8: replacing him was the Boston College offensive coordinator, Steve Shimkoh

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Speaker 8: and shimco. He comes in after one season as coordinator

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Speaker 8: for the Eagles up there in Boston. Excuse me, he

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Speaker 8: being able to just kind of bring that influence into

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Speaker 8: the building. And it's actually kind of funny. We had

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Speaker 8: even a little bit before it got announced. And he

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Speaker 8: even has a baby as well. Maybe that's something y'all

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Speaker 8: we can get a bond on it. And then the

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Speaker 8: defensive staff kind of getting filled out over the course

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Speaker 8: back into the building as an assistant defensive line coach.

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Speaker 8: I think that's pretty fun for Cowboys fans. Former first

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Speaker 8: on the nai A level, So it's pretty cool to

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Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 8: So assistant defensive line coach Ellis will be He'll work

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Speaker 8: with Jeff zig Nina, who is the new Cowboys defensive

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Speaker 8: Washington Commanders, and he'll be able to bring kind of

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Speaker 8: a more physical approach. I think up front, and you know,

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Speaker 8: a guy who specializes in the run game. Last staff

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Speaker 8: under Dan Quinn, they had the pass game coordinator with

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Speaker 8: Joe Witt Junior. I was saying, let's use that spot

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Speaker 8: for a run game type of guy. They must have

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Speaker 8: been listening to Talking Cowboys, because Paul Gunther is now

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Speaker 8: coming in as the team's run game coordinator. Over twenty

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Speaker 8: years of experience in the NFL, He's worked a lot

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Speaker 8: with Mike Zimmer in Cincinnati and in Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: He's worked as a linebackers coach.

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Speaker 8: Under Zimmer, and he's worked so many different places as well.

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Speaker 8: He's with the Raiders as a defensive coordinator from twenty

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Speaker 8: I think it's a pretty interesting staff that's kind of

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Speaker 8: filled out defensively. I think it's going to work for

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Speaker 6: I think that has to be the focus.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you look at the secondary and you got

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Speaker 8: Trayvon Diggs to Ron Bland. Then you look in the

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Speaker 8: safety group with Malie Hooker and Donovan Wilson. We'll see

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Speaker 8: what they do with Jyron Curse as well. You know

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Speaker 8: that group is kind of managing itself at this point.

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Speaker 8: Now there needs to be a focus up front. You're

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Speaker 8: losing a couple of bodies on the defensive line. The

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Speaker 8: gonna be a lot of fresh faces up front basically,

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Speaker 8: is what I'm saying. You want to be able to

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Speaker 8: bring some guys in on the coaching staff that can

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Speaker 8: help assimilate those guys but also get the most out

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Speaker 8: of them in the run game as well.

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Speaker 5: I feel like for a lot of Cowboys fans and

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Speaker 5: if you want to see all of the all of

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Speaker 5: the hires top to bottom and see their names in writing,

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Speaker 5: you can look on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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Speaker 7: About a week.

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Speaker 6: Ago, they had a great article that kind of outlined

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Speaker 6: all the moves.

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Speaker 5: But which one do you feel like is the most impactful?

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Speaker 5: Just to take a name out of that list and

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Speaker 8: It's goun Through For me, I think being able to

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Speaker 8: that and specializes in the run game. We've seen what

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Speaker 8: he's done during his career as being able to work

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Speaker 8: be able to stop the run that is what he does.

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Speaker 6: And so being able to bring in a guy like.

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Speaker 8: That who's that's his sole focus, I think that's a

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Speaker 8: huge hire for these guys.

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Speaker 6: It's awesome to hear about.

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Speaker 5: And I think there's ways that this staff can take

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Speaker 5: forward from a turnover standpoint, from a flash standpoint and

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Speaker 5: a lot of times maybe even a success overall?

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Speaker 7: Probably not.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's the first year of a new staff.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be different than what we've seen previously

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Speaker 6: Players, right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would argue the success overall point, though, just

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Speaker 8: because of the personnel that dan Quinn was dealing with

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Speaker 8: last year, only having one true linebacker and having to

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Speaker 8: and having to rotate a lot of guys in.

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Speaker 6: I think necessarily the stats for sure, but.

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Speaker 8: I'm saying, like success overall, I think that's certainly a

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Speaker 8: part of it. We're going to compare at the end

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Speaker 8: of the year what Mike Zimmer's defense looked like and

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Speaker 8: how many yards he gave up in total defense compared

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you have more cap space.

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Speaker 7: That kind of add in there.

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Speaker 8: As far as Okay, we can't really go big game

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Speaker 6: They don't have that much room.

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Speaker 8: I think it's going to be an interesting back and

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Speaker 6: I'm curious see how that shakes out.

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Speaker 5: And I can hear it now, just kind of the

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Speaker 6: How do you get in a spot to where you

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Speaker 5: Is it all just extensions and finagling and you just

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Speaker 9: In the cap.

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Speaker 8: And I will say Steven Jones has always said, you know,

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Speaker 8: they can they can get that to work.

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Speaker 6: They can figure that one out.

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Speaker 8: I think if any position they do go and grab

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Speaker 8: Al Shaire on the Draft Show last weeks. That would

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Speaker 5: There's a lot going on there. Any other news and

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Speaker 6: Break, man, No, I think we're good. I think we're good.

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Speaker 6: I think we get to think of what that? There

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Speaker 6: you go?

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Speaker 5: Spent the last week in the hospital with with Lorena

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00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,720
Speaker 5: every day because they have Quaker Oats. It's on the

445
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,960
Speaker 5: Skill Hospital the breakfast menu.

446
00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,840
Speaker 6: Isaiah would be happy you got it done. I've had

447
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,960
Speaker 6: my oats in for a week straight trying.

448
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,679
Speaker 8: Isaiah's going to come back from Africa. You're eating You're

449
00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,840
Speaker 8: eating oats, you have triplenz. It's just going to be

450
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,159
Speaker 8: a whole different life around.

451
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,760
Speaker 6: Different, a whole different.

452
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,040
Speaker 7: I don't even know if he knows yet.

453
00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,560
Speaker 6: John might start eating breakfast.

454
00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, John's gonna become a breakfast connoisseur.

455
00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,360
Speaker 7: It's gonna be great. Yeah.

456
00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,440
Speaker 5: Like I said, I don't even know if Isaiah knows yet.

457
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 5: He doesn't have a on of internet access out there.

458
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, so he may just not have anything.

459
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,159
Speaker 8: I've seen him pop in on Instagram here and there,

460
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 8: and it's actually every in a while. Yeah, if y'all

461
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,879
Speaker 8: are following Isaiah standback on Instagram. He's actually got some

462
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,880
Speaker 8: really cool I don't know if it's behind the scenes

463
00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 8: because it's actually what he's doing out there in Africa.

464
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 6: And I really questions about that.

465
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,359
Speaker 7: What's your question about it?

466
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,639
Speaker 2: Be? Well, the first one he posted their start they

467
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,720
Speaker 2: were camping out the first night, yeap, and he shows

468
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 2: a picture where they were headed and I'm like, that's

469
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,719
Speaker 2: a pretty good distance away, Like could you guys get

470
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,200
Speaker 2: a little bit closer? Like yeah, does that make sense?

471
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 2: Like can you drive closer and then do it?

472
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:37,880
Speaker 7: Yeah?

473
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 5: It has looked a little bit different than what I anticipated, Like,

474
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,040
Speaker 5: I mean he should a shot of it and it's

475
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 5: like it's in the distance.

476
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm like, could they not.

477
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 2: Like pull a little closer before they get out of

478
00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 2: the car.

479
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, well maybe they maybe they ran out of like

480
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 5: cell service or something. I mean, you know how it goes.

481
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 5: You're a big mountain climber yourself beam right, I think

482
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 5: NICKI walked in the back, so he's meeting his mic

483
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:03,200
Speaker 5: back there.

484
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 7: But yeah, follow Isaiah on there. He's he's doing.

485
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 5: Great work out there in Killiman, Jarrow and and really

486
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 5: excited to have him back on the show next week.

487
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 5: All right, NFL Combine week is here. Have you checked

488
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,479
Speaker 5: into your flight already?

489
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 6: I saw I saw the notification on your phone.

490
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 5: Get off my phone, man, I saw uh oh, yeah,

491
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,719
Speaker 5: we got Nick and Josh Rodriguez hopping on.

492
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 6: We got some piece of everybody.

493
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 16: Now, it'd be great to know what's up that I'm

494
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,439
Speaker 16: on the show today.

495
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 9: You're on?

496
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 7: Hey, you're on the show today, Josh.

497
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just.

498
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 9: Found out like four seconds ago that I just decided

499
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 9: I'm going to pop on. And what's the hat mean?

500
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 7: It says dad game?

501
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 9: What does that mean?

502
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 6: Says it's because I'm a father of triplets.

503
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 9: I didn't know how long into the show did we go,

504
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 9: like first second, like thirty seconds at least. Yeah.

505
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 5: We were talking about how it's Combine week. John's already

506
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 5: out there, Nick's checking into his flight as we speak,

507
00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 5: and uh and then Isaiah's climbing mountain and I was

508
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 5: saying which one is the most productive out of it?

509
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 7: And Nick was about to just blurt it out to

510
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 7: be like you had triplets.

511
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 16: So that was yeah, congratulations man, thanks.

512
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 7: Wow, it's a whole lot of fun.

513
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 6: It's great.

514
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 16: It's a lot of his eyes are halfway glow.

515
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 6: Yeah.

516
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been a lot over the last couple of days,

517
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 7: but it's been good.

518
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 6: It's been good. If you need hope, you know, yeah,

519
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 6: blink if I need sleep, That's what it was going

520
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 6: to turn into.

521
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 5: But yeah, we were we were just about to start

522
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 5: talking about the combine and then going into NFL Combine weeks,

523
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 5: so make.

524
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 7: You appreciate you for hopping on before we get into it. Though.

525
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 6: We were talking about the salary.

526
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 5: Cap in our last segment and that was kind of

527
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 5: our initial conversation. How much does the balloon salary cap

528
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 5: help this team to finangle, to get under that and

529
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 5: also keep that Jerry Jones quote unquote all in approach.

530
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, for me like it, I always think

531
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 9: that it doesn't help as much as you think because

532
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,959
Speaker 9: the pie just as bigger for everybody. But what it

533
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 9: does help is before for the market starts, like before March,

534
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 9: that's where okay, a couple of things you want to do,

535
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 9: you can kind of you know, get done a little bit,

536
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 9: maybe resign some players because once the once the market

537
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 9: opens for everyone, then everyone's got you know, there's teams

538
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 9: that have a lot of money now they got a

539
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 9: lot of money, you know, And so I think it's

540
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,959
Speaker 9: just gonna set the market because it's such a balloon,

541
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 9: like you said, I think it's just gonna set it

542
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 9: a little higher, you know, more players that are going

543
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 9: to get more than you thought, probably, and so I

544
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 9: don't know if it helps them that much. And beforehand

545
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 9: it might help, but once the once the you know,

546
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 9: really starts in March, I don't think it helps that much.

547
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think it makes signing CD and Micah more realistic.

548
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 16: I think that's kind where.

549
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 9: Which is pret you know, which is things you can do.

550
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 16: Before right, You're right, Yeah, I just think it makes

551
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 16: it a little more like, all right, now now we

552
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 16: know where how that's gonna work out. As far as

553
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 16: going all in free agent wise, I don't know how

554
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 16: much that really changes our outlook.

555
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 5: And that was kind of what you were saying is

556
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 5: top end contracts are going to still be top end contracts.

557
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 5: They're still going to continue to set the market. CD,

558
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 5: Micah are those top contracts. Then you extend Dak Prescott

559
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 5: to probably make him a very highly paid player as well,

560
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 5: more so than even what he is now, just to

561
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 5: extend it out and to take that cap hit down.

562
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 6: For this season.

563
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 5: But there's there's ways you can free up the cap

564
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 5: even with getting those deals done.

565
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 8: I don't think this happens, but there is a reality

566
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 8: out there that this team starts in twenty twenty four

567
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 8: with the highest paid quarterback in the league, the highest

568
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 8: paid receiver in the league, and the highest paid defensive

569
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 8: player in the league.

570
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 5: Cool, Which one do you feel like is outside of deck?

571
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 5: Which one do you feel like is more likely is CD?

572
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 6: When CD gets done this offseason, I think Mike gets done.

573
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 9: When you say highest paid, you're not talking about cap

574
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 9: charge for this year.

575
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, total totaleah, total value.

576
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,239
Speaker 9: Which is fine too because the reason why they do

577
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 9: it and give him that is so they could the

578
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 9: cap charge would be very low. But it also says

579
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 9: you have the highest paid. Yeah, at some point you're

580
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 9: gonna be the highest paid. That's what I always thought

581
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 9: was funny about quarter about Dak's deal when he signed

582
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 9: it forty million a year. Well, his first year, his

583
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 9: cap charge was like two, in the second year was

584
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 9: like eleven, and then like twenty one. Like at some point,

585
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 9: like it's gonna be in the fifties or sixties.

586
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 6: Hour here we are.

587
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, that didn't take long either, and he wouldn't be

588
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 5: the first one in the NFL to have that fifty

589
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 5: number of the tired name.

590
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 9: Thanks dude.

591
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 7: I appreciate it, you know you.

592
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I saw yesterday a little bit, but yeah, you

593
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 9: definitely look you look tired.

594
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 7: It seems like it's not even like the start of

595
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 7: it yet.

596
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 2: Now.

597
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 5: That's the thing is like I haven't even I mean, yeah,

598
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 5: we've had like nurses and doctors and everything in and

599
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 5: out of the room the last like three days.

600
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 16: But other than that, like also your emotions too, it's

601
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 16: not that like being awake. It's also like the emotions

602
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 16: of it all.

603
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 6: Dude.

604
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 5: The adrenaline of Friday is something I will I don't

605
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 5: think i'll ever experience again like it was. I mean

606
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 5: it was one fifty two they made the call and

607
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 5: then by three h five I had three children.

608
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 16: What about when we next February, when we've won the

609
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 16: Super Bowl, that.

610
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 7: Adrenaline might might get close, but it won't get there. Sorry, guys,

611
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 7: Sorry cowboy.

612
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 9: He texted me and said, so, you know, it's funny

613
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 9: how things change. It's happening. It's happening today. Yeah, And

614
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 9: I was like like now now, and you're like, as in,

615
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 9: I'm walking over there now.

616
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 6: Like walking to the O R.

617
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 7: That is what's happening. Yeah, it was crazy.

618
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 9: That's pretty that's pretty awesome.

619
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 16: But and he was calling games the next day.

620
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, that's the thing. And I said this earlier, like,

621
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 7: with them being in the nick you some money.

622
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true.

623
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 7: Those snipers are expensive.

624
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 5: With with them being in the nick you there's not

625
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 5: really a whole lot I can do from a hands

626
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 5: on approach other than provide great support and continue to

627
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 5: make sure that Lorena is taken care of. So when

628
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 5: it gets to that point where they're coming home, I

629
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 5: was like, I'll disappear, Like that's when you'll see me

630
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 5: not on shows, and you will you won't see me

631
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 5: on certain coverage and things like that. But that's when

632
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 5: they go home. And that's still a couple of weeks away. Yeah,

633
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 5: a number of weeks away at this point. So yeah,

634
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 5: I'll be around for a little bit more.

635
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 9: You didn't get rid of me, so I derailed it again.

636
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 9: We were talking talking about a cap, but I went to, sorry.

637
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 7: All those YouTube comments are gonna be it's gonna be horrible.

638
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 6: They're gonna be honest today, that's gonna be bad. We

639
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 6: can't wait.

640
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 9: You know this is a and I'm you guys might

641
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 9: have already talked about this a little bit, But do

642
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 9: you think that the all in approach, Like, I don't

643
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 9: think I don't think they're ever going to go all

644
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 9: in to what the fans are thinking is all in,

645
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,479
Speaker 9: you know. But but do you think signing one of

646
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 9: those and I say three running backs it might be

647
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 9: more than that. Do you think signing one of those

648
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 9: guys is would kind of be in that neighborhood of

649
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 9: all in, like if it's a Barkley or it's a

650
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 9: Jacobs or Henry, of course Henry's.

651
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 6: The big one.

652
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it would help.

653
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 5: I still want help at the linebacker position too, prior

654
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 5: to the draft, and I don't think that may be

655
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 5: a split sign. It's still one that I think is

656
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 5: necessary though.

657
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think if you get one of those three guys,

658
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 8: I think that would fit the fans mold for sure.

659
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 8: But what what does necessarily all in look like? Is

660
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 8: it going to get a running back from one of

661
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 8: those three guys and then going to get one of

662
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 8: these runt stopping linebackers' mission to seizell shi here in

663
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 8: the last segment getting a guy like that as well,

664
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 8: But then you're then you're working with the cap at

665
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 8: that point. But I think going all in, and in

666
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Speaker 8: some ways there's some approach free agency is the first

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Speaker 8: opportunity to do that.

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Speaker 6: What does that look like for this front office?

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Speaker 9: And we don't know. And it's a it's a term

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Speaker 9: that that is not used, and I mean it's a

671
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Speaker 9: term that doesn't really apply because all in means we're gonna.

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Speaker 9: I'm pushing in and if I don't, if I don't

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Speaker 9: get this Jack on the river here, then I'm I'm

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Speaker 9: going home. You're done, and Jerry's and Steven aren't going home.

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Speaker 9: I'm just gonna to.

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Speaker 11: You.

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Speaker 16: One was the last time they went all in. Dion

678
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Speaker 16: never seen it. I never seen it.

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Speaker 9: I haven't seen him go all in.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't think Dion was an all where it's

681
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 6: one year or bust.

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Speaker 7: You either get it done or your rebuild.

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Speaker 9: Well, I wasn't here for that. When when they got

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Speaker 9: him in ninety, well, I mean that that was a

685
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Speaker 9: great scene. Yeah, I mean I get okay, I'll say this,

686
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 9: when you trade next year's one, let me let me

687
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Speaker 9: change that. When you trade next year's one. To me,

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Speaker 9: that's a that's a that's a form of going all

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00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,239
Speaker 9: in when twenty eighteen, I think they realized they had

690
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 9: a pretty good team. They just to have any receivers.

691
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 9: So they went and got a Marii Cooper and they

692
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Speaker 9: turned him around. And they've done it a couple of times.

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Speaker 9: I mean they did it. Yeah, so I'll take that back.

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Speaker 9: When they did Joey Galloway, they traded two number ones

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Speaker 9: for Joey Galloway. They were going all in towards ACL

696
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Speaker 9: in his first game.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so tough.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that one was.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the the all in approach.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't have to be a first round pick,

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00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 5: yeah right, but it does have to be a considerable

702
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 5: a considerable effort to do more than what is the norm, right,

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Speaker 5: and I mean like a lot more than what is

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Speaker 5: the norm around Cowboy Nation. I think it would take

705
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 5: something like that, a move like that where you go

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00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 5: get an established star, you go get an established individual

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Speaker 5: in the league, and you find a way to supplement

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Speaker 5: it with draft picks somehow this time around.

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Speaker 16: Don't you think a part of going all in the

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00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 16: phrasing of that, doesn't that also mean sort of mortgaging

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Speaker 16: your future in a way?

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Speaker 7: Sure?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't think granted he said that,

714
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Speaker 16: in a way, I don't see that necessarily happening. I

715
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Speaker 16: see like the money for sure, But as far as

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Speaker 16: draft picks go, high draft picks for you know, years

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Speaker 16: to come, I don't see that being a thing because

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Speaker 16: this team relies so heavily on the draft that I

719
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 16: don't see early.

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Speaker 6: Picks going at this point.

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Speaker 8: We've talked about how they they need to pick up

722
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Speaker 8: another pick at some point exactly. The fourth round is

723
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 8: obviously staring at you right in the face as far

724
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 8: as they don't have one there and you would love

725
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 8: to have one. In this draft specifically, I think you

726
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 8: could probably see them trade, either on draft day or beforehand,

727
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 8: trade some a future pick to pick up a fourth

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Speaker 8: or a third or a fifth, whatever, and just.

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Speaker 6: Kind of go from there.

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Speaker 8: I think that's maybe where you can see some pick movement.

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Speaker 8: But other than that, I don't see giving up a

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Speaker 8: high value pick like a first or second round pick

733
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Speaker 8: to go pick up a player. I just don't see

734
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 8: that right now.

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Speaker 6: But do you think you could still go all in

736
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 6: without Yeah? I think so. I think so.

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Speaker 8: It depends on what are you doing free agency, though

738
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Speaker 8: we'll know in about a month if all in means

739
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Speaker 8: what we think it means.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, because I mean it's different for different teams. Are

741
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 16: we trying to do an LA rams all in exactly?

742
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 16: That's a much different one, that's exactly what?

743
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 7: So what does all in mean to you?

744
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 5: That's a good question for the text line eight one

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Speaker 5: seven two nine zero three two nine eight What.

746
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 6: Would an all in off season look like to you?

747
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 6: And give us your opinion.

748
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: I'm just kind of interested to see how that lies,

749
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 5: because you're talking about trading to really acquire picks this

750
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 5: year and to add to the poll this year. That's

751
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 5: certainly wagering your future for something that's going to cost

752
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 5: you more now and help you out now. But I

753
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 5: think it's more likely they trade back from the twenty fourth.

754
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 7: Overall pick that's accumulated picks.

755
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Speaker 5: I don't think that's an all in approach, because, if anything,

756
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 5: you're investing in your future more than you are investing

757
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 5: in what you can do right now by trading backwards

758
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 5: out of the first round.

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Speaker 7: But I think it's more likely you do that because

760
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 7: you need those spots.

761
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: You need that second level of talent that we were

762
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 5: just talking about that could be affected by the cap ballooning,

763
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 5: and you just running out of that cap space.

764
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 8: Tell you what, I've seen ten tackles that I think

765
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 8: can go in the first round. And I'm also kind

766
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 8: of throwing Graham Barton and Troy Fountain knowing that equation

767
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 8: as well. Those are two guys that have interior flex.

768
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 6: But I see ten guys.

769
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 8: If you're looking at pick seventeen eighteen, and probably only

770
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 8: five of those guys have gone, start getting on the phones.

771
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 8: Let's start trading back, and I think if you can

772
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 8: get back four or five six spots, you can still

773
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 8: pick up one of those guys and get what you

774
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 8: want to going in.

775
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Speaker 9: Also, and it's happened twice before, is there a quarterback

776
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 9: that's gonna fall?

777
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

778
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Speaker 9: Is there a guy that everyone's surprised? I mean, how

779
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 9: many quarterbacks are going in the top five?

780
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Speaker 6: It's probably three, That's what I was thinking.

781
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 9: I mean, I mean, in the top five, there'll be three.

782
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 7: It'll be William Daniel's top ten.

783
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 6: That's where we start talking about JJ McCarthy.

784
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 8: Does he I've seen him go seventh overall, I've seen

785
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 8: him go late second round. Same thing two right, Hennix

786
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 8: more so I think is comfortably second. I think he

787
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 8: would have to have a huge comment.

788
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 9: Let me let me clarify before people are assuming that

789
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 9: I'm talking about the Cowboys drafting. I'm saying. I'm saying

790
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 9: was I've seen it before twice. Players fall down in

791
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 9: the draft a little bit, and then the Cowboys will

792
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 9: make a trade with someone that wants that player for

793
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 9: next year's one.

794
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

795
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Speaker 9: You know, now, I don't think McCarthy's going to be

796
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 9: a big fan Jay Mike McCarthy. He's going to be

797
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 9: a big fan of trading next year's one.

798
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 6: Win.

799
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 9: We all know that he's got to win this year.

800
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 9: Trading next year's one is not That's not going to

801
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 9: be the way I think he wouldn't mind trading He

802
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 9: and he I mean, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, this year's

803
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 9: number one eight for for two next year. He's not

804
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 9: gonna want that. He wouldn't mind trading next year's one

805
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 9: to get another playerbody else.

806
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 6: That's what I was thinking. It's like maybe that's what.

807
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 9: No, No, I mean, I mean to get next year's

808
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 9: number one pick.

809
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 8: Any trading down, because then if he said, now he's like,

810
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 8: hey man, I got a new deal, I'm all right.

811
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Speaker 6: Right, you can figure this out.

812
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Speaker 9: That true all right.

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Speaker 5: When we come back here on Talking Cowboys, I want

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Speaker 5: to have Josh, Nick and Nick Harris tell me their

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Speaker 5: number one position of interest going into the NFL Combine

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Speaker 5: for the Cowboys, because there's a lot to talk about

817
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Speaker 5: going into Combine week, and we haven't had a lot

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Speaker 5: of draft talk on this show just yet, so we're

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Speaker 5: Got some text messages talking through what it would look.

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Speaker 7: Like to be all in.

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Speaker 5: Mike from Boston saying all in would mean signing a

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Speaker 5: difference made. You're a linebacker, bringing back Tyron Smith, drafting

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Speaker 6: I take that check check, check check. I was just

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Speaker 6: checking the box.

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Speaker 5: Lab sounds good, Mike. Yeah, you got a you got

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Speaker 6: Gig Mike, you say, Mike, that's true.

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Speaker 9: I wish Mike would call the show my show.

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Speaker 6: He might be calling in the back.

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Speaker 5: I wish he said he loves storyline in this X mess,

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Speaker 5: he says, by the way, what up, Nick?

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Speaker 7: I love storyline?

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Speaker 9: Thank you? And I was I just wanted to call because,

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Speaker 9: states have called the show.

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Speaker 5: In Massachusetts the ones so he listens. So, Mike, if

886
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 5: you're listening still.

887
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 9: Tomorrow give one o'clock, you could be the fiftieth state.

888
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, number fifty. Have you gotten ever country?

889
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: Though?

890
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 7: You should get Isaiah.

891
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 16: You should get waiting for that Turkish call tomorrow one o'clock.

892
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 5: You should get Isaiah call from from what country?

893
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 7: Kilimanjaro?

894
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, that would be a first. Yeah, so you

895
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 9: can not come on about that.

896
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 6: Check it out, check check the box.

897
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 16: Do you know what country that is?

898
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 6: Tanzania?

899
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 7: Yeah?

900
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 16: Really I wouldn't have been able to tell you that.

901
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no, no, not at all. There's one guy.

902
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 9: There's one guy that he's called from like four different countries.

903
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 9: He's traveling. I think he's a photographer. That's awesome and yeah,

904
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 9: he's like, he's moving around a little bit, so we

905
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 9: keep checking the box. It's difficult.

906
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 16: Would you have known that before Isaiah went like, Okay,

907
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 16: I'm kind of a geography nerd Oh yeah, sick.

908
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I really am.

909
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 5: Mark says, if the Cowboys don't sign an outside free

910
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 5: agent in the first two days of free agency, they

911
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 5: did not go all in.

912
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 6: Do you agree with that statement. I think that's fair.

913
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 9: I do. I think it's fair. But I think you

914
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 9: can still get you can still get lucky. Sure, you

915
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 9: know by getting you know when the deals, when the

916
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 9: money starts going down a little bit. But it's gonna

917
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 9: be crazy. Anytime you have a major jump in the cap,

918
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 9: it's gonna the numbers are going to be really high.

919
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 6: Yeah.

920
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, teams have money thirty million dollars more than last year.

921
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 5: Just to bring context into the equation, here are the

922
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 5: cap numbers from twenty twenty ninety eight point two, and

923
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 5: we're already from twenty twenty the COVID season. It's gone

924
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 5: from one ninety eight point two to two hundred and fifty.

925
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 7: Five point four.

926
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 9: I think I think it actually hurts them a cap baloony.

927
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 9: It does because there's more teams below you that can

928
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 9: have a chance to get better. And there's one team

929
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 9: ahead of you that has a lot of cap problems,

930
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 9: and that's the forty nine ers, And now they can

931
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 9: help out a little bit. They can maybe sign some

932
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 9: of their guys, because I think if they keep their

933
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 9: guys and the Cowboys keep their guys, the forty nine

934
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 9: ers are still better. Sure, so I don't know. I

935
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 9: don't know if it helps them that much. That'd be

936
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 9: a downer on this.

937
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 6: That's tough.

938
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 7: I see what you're saying.

939
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 5: But at the same time, it's each situation as its own.

940
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 7: Sure, you got to take care of your own business.

941
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 7: Yeah and not.

942
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 5: It's almost like scoreboard watching, but you're scoreboard watching, but

943
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 5: you had to win agency.

944
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 9: You're right, You're right. It's one of those things that

945
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 9: I need these three things to happen. But you have

946
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 9: to win.

947
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 7: You're going to win.

948
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 6: You got to have your your best off season.

949
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 5: Anyways, And like Mike was just talking about on the

950
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 5: text line, if you check those boxes, I think you

951
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 5: feel really good about.

952
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 7: What was the center part of Draft to Center?

953
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 6: He said, Draft to Center.

954
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 9: Which that would be when you answer that question or

955
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 9: asked that question about Combine. Yeah, to me, I'll start

956
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 9: at center. For me, just what happens at center? I

957
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 9: know everyone to talk about the one players the sixth Yeah, yeah,

958
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 9: the law firm of Jackson powers Johnson. But is there others?

959
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 9: Are there other So if.

960
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 8: You look at Zach Fraser out of West Virginia, now

961
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 8: he won't he won't compete at Combine.

962
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 6: He'll be there for interviews.

963
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 8: He broke his leg late in the season for West Virginia,

964
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 8: but second round he's yeah.

965
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 6: Or trade back and get him in the first.

966
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 5: His name is starting to garner a lot of attention though,

967
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 5: because of the toughness aspect. Yeah, tough, like tough as nails,

968
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 5: glass eater, just a guy who's gonna give you everything.

969
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 8: I think an interesting center option would be Christian Haynes

970
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 8: out of Yukon. He played guard for the Huskies up

971
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 8: there in the Northeast, but got a lot of reps

972
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 8: at center during Senior Bowl. He's showing that flexibility and

973
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 8: he's more than open to being a center at the

974
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 8: next level. Talk to him about it at Mobile. I

975
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 8: think that's a sneaky option for them to draft in

976
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 8: the second round and then go ahead and place at center.

977
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 6: I think that would be huge for them.

978
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 5: Are you okay drafting a center and replacing Tyler biattish

979
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 5: if that center is not taken in the first round

980
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 5: or does it have to be a first round No, it.

981
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 9: Didn't have to be. I mean, I mean just an

982
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 9: apable guy. Yeah, I don't think he wasn't ready as

983
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 9: a rookie, so he was a fourth round pick. I mean,

984
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 9: you get what you you get what you get. I

985
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 9: mean Frederick was ready as a first round pick and

986
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 9: be you know, got there at some point. But I'm

987
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 9: I don't know. I mean, like I remember that they

988
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 9: didn't like Lindenbaum.

989
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 5: Right, They thought he was too small. Yeah, Tyler Linderbaum,

990
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 5: they thought he was too small.

991
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 9: He looked pretty big in the Pro Bowl, in his Pro.

992
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 7: Bowl jersey ball jersey.

993
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 9: He looked kind of big in that.

994
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, Uh, kind of good there, big Pats.

995
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 5: That was still it's still like, out of the last

996
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: five years of doing the draft show that Tyler Linderbaumb

997
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 5: is still one of my top pet Yeah.

998
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 9: You really loved Tyler at Linderbaum.

999
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 6: And certainly he slipped at twenty five.

1000
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 5: He's worked out, Yeah, he's worked out, what's your number

1001
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 5: one position?

1002
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 16: Josh, I think it's obviously it's linebacker for me, But

1003
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 16: I think that's really hard to tell in any sort

1004
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 16: of practice combine, training camp, situations, film. It's exactly, it's

1005
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 16: really hard to judge based on drills with linebacker because

1006
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 16: it's such a mental aspect of the game. But that's

1007
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 16: kind of my obvious go to. It's like, obviously we

1008
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 16: need the help at linebacker.

1009
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna throw in some linebacker names here,

1010
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 8: Edric Cooper out of Texas A and M.

1011
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 6: I think that's that's one guy that two scenarios.

1012
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 8: I think if he has a really good combine that

1013
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 8: he could end up late first round and as a

1014
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 8: trade back scenario, or you know, if he kind of

1015
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 8: stays at the trend that he's at right now, you'd

1016
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 8: be lucky to see him slipped to fifty six, but

1017
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 8: comfortably a second round pick. Some other guys Jeremiter Jeremiah Trotter,

1018
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 8: junior out of Clemson.

1019
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm sorry.

1020
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 8: Ryan brought this guy, Peyton Wilson out of North Carolina State. Now,

1021
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 8: he's a guy that had a lot of injuries during

1022
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 8: his time with the wolf Pack. You talk about the injuries,

1023
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 8: go ahead and draft him in the second round. But

1024
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 8: he had two knee injuries and a shoulder injury during

1025
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 8: his time in North Carolina State, but stayed pretty healthy

1026
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 8: these last two years.

1027
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 6: And won the.

1028
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 8: Gosh, why am I blanking on the Dick Buckets Award

1029
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 8: for the nation's to top linebacker this past season. You

1030
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 8: also got Cedric Gray of North Carolina that's a second

1031
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 8: third round type pick. And your guy Junior Colson out

1032
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 8: of a Michigan but another Michigan defender.

1033
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 6: You sure that I'm okay with Riot.

1034
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 7: I'm okay with it. He's different, it's different.

1035
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Well he's not an offensive lineman.

1036
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 6: No, I'm with you.

1037
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 5: I also haven't given up on Mazzie Smith either. Just

1038
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 5: for the record, I really like I haven't given up

1039
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 5: on MASSI. Junior is different. Yeah, that's a different player.

1040
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 5: He's NFL ready. Mazi apparently wasn't where Junior Colson he

1041
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 5: can come in, he can play, played one thousand snaps next.

1042
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 8: Apparently about it in my eyes, but it is what

1043
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 8: it is at this point.

1044
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 7: Don't scout the helmet.

1045
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 16: Everybody, sorry, is Edre and Cooper in a possibility, like,

1046
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 16: do you think he makes it to I don't think

1047
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 16: he makes it to fifty six now, But I think

1048
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 16: if there's an opportunity where maybe the tackles go early

1049
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 16: and you don't like what the tackles might be shaping

1050
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 16: up at twenty four and you would like to get

1051
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 16: that linebacker or the center, then you trade back six

1052
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 16: seven spots and hope.

1053
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 6: That one of those fault to you, whether it be

1054
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 6: a Zach Fraser or ed.

1055
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 16: So your team trade back if if the if the

1056
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 16: board falls the way it could.

1057
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of scenario.

1058
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 9: Right, and if there's a that's dropping, you know that

1059
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 9: you can't believe is sitting there that you know, yeah,

1060
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 9: I think you got to go to that round, especially

1061
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 9: if it's a position of need.

1062
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 6: Right.

1063
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 9: But I'm gonna say this about linebacker, and I've said

1064
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 9: this on you know, other shows before they need to

1065
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 9: make it. In my opinion, they need to make a

1066
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 9: change in the you know, philosophically at linebacker if they're

1067
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 9: going to just keep getting these guys that run in

1068
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 9: the four five, four to six range and they used

1069
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 9: to be safety at some point and they can play

1070
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 9: a lot in the nickel, and they'd be good to

1071
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 9: have not liability. They can match up with tight ends,

1072
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 9: then that's fine, But there's the guards are still going

1073
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 9: to come right after them and try to knock them down.

1074
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 9: I mean, that's the problem. At some point. They need

1075
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 9: linebackers that have, you know, a little bit more meat

1076
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 9: on the bone, that can go forward and you know,

1077
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 9: get in the hole and make a play. I mean,

1078
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 9: they got to have that, and they more thumper at

1079
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 9: linebacker than they've had in the past.

1080
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 7: That's why like Junior Colson from Michigan, he's a thumper.

1081
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 6: Go downhill and he's big too.

1082
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 7: He's big. He's not really a coverage guy though.

1083
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 8: I'd be curious to ask you You two guys, this

1084
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 8: is kind of a BPA type scenario. Best player available

1085
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 8: at twenty four all to Latsu, I think is the

1086
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 8: best pass rusher, natural pass rusher in this class.

1087
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 6: There's a scenario where he could fall to twenty four.

1088
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 6: He's a top fifteen player in my rankings, right, yeah,

1089
00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 6: the same as well.

1090
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, Now if he falls to twenty four and the

1091
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 8: Cowboys take him, how do you feel about that? It's

1092
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 8: an edge rusher, like, you don't need one that bad

1093
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 8: to take in the first round. But it's a guy

1094
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 8: that'll be violent, and it's a guy that can really.

1095
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 6: Can I can?

1096
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 9: I just be an old man, I'll say.

1097
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 6: Is one negative is run game?

1098
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 7: Okay?

1099
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 9: This is this is the old man in me that's

1100
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 9: seen a lot of these drafts. If he is the

1101
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 9: best pass rusher in the draft, he will not be

1102
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 9: there at twenty.

1103
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1104
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Speaker 9: There's just too many teams that will be like no,

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Speaker 9: if he is really the best pass rusher, they just

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Speaker 9: don't last that long.

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Speaker 6: This is the opposite of our friend Mickey Spagnola saying.

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Speaker 7: Well, then why is he available? This is like, he's

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Speaker 7: not going.

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Speaker 6: To be available.

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Speaker 9: I remember that talk about Tippoteau. Where did he end up? Yeah,

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Speaker 9: New York Giants.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like five, two or three, right, But I.

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Speaker 9: Remember did in the one of the Cowboys said eleven?

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Speaker 9: Was that the year they had Nikah ten or something

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Speaker 9: like that.

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Speaker 7: I believe.

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Speaker 9: I feel like it was like, what if he falls

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Speaker 9: and it's like that he's not, then you know he

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Speaker 9: got arrested. That's that's the problem.

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Speaker 8: There's a medical concern with Latsuo, and we'll find out

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Speaker 8: more about it next week and he started his career

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Speaker 8: at Washington, and I had a little bit of injury

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Speaker 8: concerns there that kind of just faced him out that program.

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Speaker 6: Why he would drop, that would be why he would

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Speaker 6: drive alto.

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Speaker 5: Medically retire from Washington and then went back to u

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Speaker 5: c l A. Got a second opinion, they said you're okay,

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Speaker 5: and then became one of the best pass rushers in

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Speaker 5: college football. And I want to emphasize I don't think

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Speaker 5: he's the best edge in the class. I think he's

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00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 5: the best pass rusher in the class. And I think

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Speaker 5: there's a couple of edges that could be above him,

1134
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Speaker 5: just based on priority. Right, But Thibodeau was at five

1135
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 5: by the way, he was taking it the fifth overall pick.

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00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 6: That was the U Amari Cooper draft.

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00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 7: No Tyler Smith, Tomer Smith draft that was twenty Yeah.

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00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 9: Oh was that draft okay? Why he was in the

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00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 9: mix for for something? I thought it was like, what

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00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 9: if he falls? I guess not, Yeah, I don't he would.

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00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 7: I mean he fell.

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Speaker 5: Initially, whenever Thibodeau was was coming out, they thought he

1143
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 5: was by far and away going to be the number

1144
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Speaker 5: one overall pick. And to be ho honest, the number

1145
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 5: one overall pick in that draft probably should have been

1146
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 5: Sauce Gardner or Aiden Hutchinson. Both of those guys have

1147
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 5: been fantastic because Trayvon Walker hasn't done anything, Derek Stingley

1148
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 5: Junior hasn't done anything, and Cavon.

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Speaker 7: Thibodau's been man all the way through. So yeah, but yeah,

1150
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Speaker 7: there you go.

1151
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Speaker 9: Mean Tyler Smith, like, where does he rank in those

1152
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 9: in that first round? Like top ten easily? Absolutely, the

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00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 9: top ten.

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00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 8: I think you redraft that he probably goes. Top five

1155
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 8: is if you want to throw in positional.

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00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 6: Value that draft.

1157
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 5: Out of the first round picks, the only players that

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00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 5: have made a Pro Bowl or the two I mentioned Hutchinson,

1159
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 5: Gardner and then.

1160
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 7: Kyle Hamilton from Baltimore he.

1161
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 6: Made a Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Tyler Smith, Tyler Linderbaum, and Jermaine Johnson. Wow, I just

1163
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 5: think I love Jermaine Johnson too.

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Speaker 6: He was fun talking about Senior Bowl making money.

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Speaker 9: That's he did. He made That's the thing about too.

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00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 9: You know since twenty ten, and that's that we're talking

1167
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 9: like fourteen drafts. Now two first rounders that the Cowboys

1168
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 9: have taken in the first round did not make the

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00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 9: Pro Bowl. One of them was Mo Clayborne. The other

1170
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Speaker 9: one was Taco Charlton, you know, and Tyler Smith. You know,

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Speaker 9: Tyler Smith was one until he made it this year.

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00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 9: You know, it just goes. Obviously Mazzi's in there too,

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Speaker 9: Mazzi the third one. But but I just think the

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Speaker 9: body of work of what this, you know, the draft is.

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Speaker 9: It's really easy to look at last year's drafting man

1176
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 9: that was terrible. Yeah, and so far it has been.

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00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 9: But I think that their body of work has been amazing,

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Speaker 9: especially when the high picks, those first round picks.

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Speaker 5: And if you don't think they're talking about that on

1180
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 5: the opposite side of the building and saying we might

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00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 5: have missed on some guys instant impact wise last year.

1182
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 5: We need to find some instant impact this year. I

1183
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 5: guarantee they're having those conversations.

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00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 9: That's that's probably getting an extra third round pick and

1185
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 9: a guy named overshone who just didn't play last year.

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00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 6: That's exactly right.

1187
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 7: All right, that does it for us.

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Speaker 5: You're on talking cowboys, Nick Josh, thanks for stopping by,

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Speaker 5: of course, little.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, appreciate it.

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00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 7: Nick had it all he was going to carry for show.

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Speaker 7: You got the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: I will say, there was a lot of relief when

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Speaker 6: you two walked.

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Speaker 5: In, for Chris me and for Nick Harris, Nick Keepman,

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00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 5: Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeoman saying so long from talking cowboys.

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Speaker 9: Come on, we'll see.

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