WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Can't Tell You Why

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, gain everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast. The I Can't Tell You addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as the Bengals fall to three and five overall and

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<v Speaker 1>zero and four at home with a thirty seven to

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, coming up radio replays,

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<v Speaker 1>locker room comments and postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then

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<v Speaker 1>in this week's fun Facts Conversation, you'll learn why Dejon

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<v Speaker 1>NFL and college football games on a weekly basis, but

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule makers aren't always kind. This weekend, the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati's game at Colorado kicked off at ten fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern on Saturday night, and the Bengals game the next

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<v Speaker 1>day was moved up from four point fifteen to one PM.

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<v Speaker 2>That meant a.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick turnaround for yours, truly. The UC team plane landed

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<v Speaker 1>back in Cincinnati just before seven am, and unfortunately, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not great at sleeping on planes. The solution coffee, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Caffeine is definitely my drug of choice. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to football and the radio replays from Sunday's

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<v Speaker 1>game in the Jungle this afternoon here in Since the

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<v Speaker 1>sky is blue, the field is green, and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>and their fans are wearing white, it is White Bengal

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<v Speaker 1>Day in the Jungle. The Bengals are a perfect four

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<v Speaker 1>and oh when wearing their icy cool white helmets, and

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<v Speaker 1>they will look to remain perfect today as they host

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia Eagles. Burrow catches, drops back to throw, begins

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<v Speaker 1>rolling to the right. He's at the twelve yard line,

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<v Speaker 1>throws into the end zone on leaping catch and a

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown by Jamar Chase, and the Bengals take more than

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<v Speaker 1>nine minutes off the clock and score a touchdown to

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<v Speaker 1>begin the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh about it, man, They go five for five On

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<v Speaker 3>third down.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be a fifty four yard attempt for Evan McPherson.

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<v Speaker 1>He's missed three field goals this year. Two of the

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<v Speaker 1>three have been from fifty plus from the right. Hash

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Midas ready to snap it back to Rico. The snap,

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<v Speaker 1>the placement and the right footed it is blasted by

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<v Speaker 1>McPherson and it is wide left. Burrow hands it to

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<v Speaker 1>night Brown. Night flying up the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Had the search takes him.

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<v Speaker 4>Into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Touchdown. Bengals on second down and eight Hurts fakes to Barkley,

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<v Speaker 1>rolls right, wants to launch it deep downfield toward the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone. Caught by Devonte Smith, touchdown Philly.

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<v Speaker 4>Jordan Battle in coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a uh, that's a matchup that that right there.

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Hurt says, I've got one of my speed receivers

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<v Speaker 3>on a safety in Battle did not have terrible coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just an outstanding throw by Jalen Hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the Bengals are probably going to have to throw

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<v Speaker 1>it on fourth and one. Philadelphia is showing pressure. Chase

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<v Speaker 1>goes in motion. Burrow will look to pass, throws it

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<v Speaker 1>for Chase makes the catch, loses a yard, tackled by

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper de Gene. The Bengals failed to convert on third

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<v Speaker 1>and half a yard, then fourth in a full yard,

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<v Speaker 1>and Philadelphia takes over at the Cincinnati thirty eight with

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to really put Cincinnati in a bind. On

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<v Speaker 1>first and ten from the forty six, Burrow fires deep

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<v Speaker 1>down the right sideline incomplete. Was it picked off or incomplete?

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<v Speaker 1>It is intercepted. It got deflected into the hands of C. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Gardner Johnson by Isaiah Rodgers. Here comes the brotherly shove

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<v Speaker 1>as Hurtz looking for his third touchdown run of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>He charges forward. It's a touchdown and the fans can

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<v Speaker 1>stream for the exits. Philadelphia is going to hand Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>it's fourth consecutive home loss. Burrow to throw on first

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<v Speaker 1>and ten. His pass caught about four yards up the field.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball comes out. Philadelphia is celebrating, Wow, Kaziki fumbled.

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<v Speaker 1>The Eagles recover. They'll take over at the thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati thirty seconds to go. Another handoff to Chase

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<v Speaker 1>Brown looks like he picked up enough for the first down.

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<v Speaker 1>He did, but that's going to be the final play

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. A long frustrating walk toward the center

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<v Speaker 1>of the field for Zach Taylor as his team gets

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<v Speaker 1>outscored twenty nothing in the final twenty minutes of the

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<v Speaker 1>game and loses at home to the Philadelphia Eagles. The

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<v Speaker 1>final score today thirty seven to seventeen Philly. After scoring

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three or more points in three straight games, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals have managed seventeen, fourteen and seventeen on offense in

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<v Speaker 1>their last three. I didn't count the kick return touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>by Charlie Jones against Cleveland. The offense was good for

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half quarters on Sunday. On their first

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<v Speaker 1>four drives, the Bengals scored two touchdowns, made a field goal,

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<v Speaker 1>and missed a field goal. But the game turned late

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<v Speaker 1>in the third quarter. Down by seven points. On third

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<v Speaker 1>and less than a yard their own thirty nine, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals handed the ball to Zach Moss, who lost to

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<v Speaker 1>half a yard. They went for it on fourth and one,

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<v Speaker 1>and a swing pass to Jamar Chase lost two more

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<v Speaker 1>yards that led to a Philly field goal and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals never threatened. Again, here are Zach Taylor and Ted

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<v Speaker 1>Karris on that sequence.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I felt like we needed to be aggressive there.

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<v Speaker 5>It didn't work out, So that's frustrating, you know. And

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<v Speaker 5>so again I put that on myself situation where I

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<v Speaker 5>felt like we need to be aggressive and go score

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<v Speaker 5>in that possession, given we were down seven, and anytime

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<v Speaker 5>it doesn't go well, obviously you're gonna think a long

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<v Speaker 5>and hard about that decision.

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<v Speaker 6>He used to being about to play call on fourth

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<v Speaker 6>and one, other screening to Marls the idea.

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<v Speaker 5>There, Yeah, he's one of the options. And you know, again,

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<v Speaker 5>the point didn't work, and that's one hundred percent on me.

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<v Speaker 7>We got to get on third and one, so I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not even worried about the pass. I think the the

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<v Speaker 7>run on third and one.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we gotta have that.

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<v Speaker 7>It's gonna gonna eat at me for twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 7>and then we got to get onto Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengal entered the game tied for twenty eighth in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL and rushing yards per game and tied for

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth and rushing yards per attempt. They are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to climb in the rankings after averaging two point nine

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<v Speaker 1>yards against Philly. Their longest run by a running back

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<v Speaker 1>and seventeen attempts was five yards. I spoke to Ted

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<v Speaker 1>Karris after the game, who says, it's not time to

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<v Speaker 1>panic yet.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think three and five is a panic mode.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, two games back with nine to play, you

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<v Speaker 7>know that's a that's a lot of time. There's a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of football to be played. You know, season not

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<v Speaker 7>even halfway over. Again, hate having to keep saying that,

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<v Speaker 7>but you know, no one's panicking. And we have you know,

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<v Speaker 7>credit to the to the organization for the quality of

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<v Speaker 7>young men that we have in this locker room. And

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<v Speaker 7>guys are gonna come tomorrow ready to go, and then

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<v Speaker 7>Wednesday ready to go. We got to get our first

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<v Speaker 7>home win, and that's what we're focused on. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>we can we can talk about January.

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<v Speaker 4>All we want. What we need to do is win

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<v Speaker 4>in Paycorps.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, right after Halloween, even with Joe and as

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<v Speaker 1>good as the passing game is, do you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you need a dependable running game? Is that a must

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<v Speaker 1>going forward?

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<v Speaker 4>It is a must. I mean, it's always a must.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I would like to give that to Joe.

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<v Speaker 7>One time in his career, it'd be nice, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and we got to execute up front, and that's we

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<v Speaker 7>didn't today. I don't think we ran the ball very

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<v Speaker 7>well at all, but a few, but not enough to

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<v Speaker 7>spark any confidence in increasing the value.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you converted your first eight third down conversion

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, which is great obviously, But is that

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<v Speaker 1>also what Philadelphia does. They force you to convert third

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<v Speaker 1>after third after third by you know, kind of taking

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<v Speaker 1>away the deep ball and forcing you to nickel and

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<v Speaker 1>dime your way down the field.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess that's what they did today.

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<v Speaker 7>But we were converting and you know, sustaining drives mean

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<v Speaker 7>to open up the game with a ten minute drive,

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<v Speaker 7>I thought that was pretty encouraging and it was gonna

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<v Speaker 7>be one of those games where you know, we had

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<v Speaker 7>to get get ourselves down there and score on possessions

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<v Speaker 7>because they're doing the same thing. You know, they had

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<v Speaker 7>I think they had a ten minute drive as well.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's just it's just a show game. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>we only have three possessions in the first half. Usually

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<v Speaker 7>you get about six, I would say, So you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the game is shorter, so points are at a premium,

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<v Speaker 7>and we got to end in touchdowns. They did and

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<v Speaker 7>we didn't, and that's ultimately the difference in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a stupid question, I'll ask it anyway, Why doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>every team do the tush push?

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<v Speaker 7>They don't have a quarterback and squad six hundred pounds,

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<v Speaker 7>I'd say is probably the most obvious answer. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think we've seen other teams do it to

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<v Speaker 7>no success. I think a lot of teams have tried

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<v Speaker 7>it and got out of it right away. Again, who

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<v Speaker 7>their quarterback is. You know, they have a quarterback who's

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<v Speaker 7>built like a running back.

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<v Speaker 4>So not to say he's running, but he's a good quarterback.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think that just you know, and they had

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<v Speaker 7>Jason Kelcey very you know, smaller center, good leverage athlete,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, the Cam Jurgens. Now, obviously they've studied it,

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<v Speaker 7>they practice it a lot, they know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 7>And again, it doesn't it's not one hundred percent, but

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<v Speaker 7>you know, it's a war of Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A war of attrition in there.

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<v Speaker 7>And I just think that personnel wise, we've seen other

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<v Speaker 7>teams try it and fail.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think it's you know.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a that's a unique Philly thing that they do.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel like you keep reaching a point where you're

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like on the verge of flipping things

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred or whatever, and then it's a step backward.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's the NFL.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, this is uh, you know, this is this

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<v Speaker 7>is the big, big boys league. So you know you

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<v Speaker 7>better be ready to go and come out, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>come out in the second half, you know, traded touchdowns

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<v Speaker 7>and then didn't convert a fourth down and the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Got busted open. So that's that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I don't even know how many positions we

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<v Speaker 7>had in the second half by four, maybe five if

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<v Speaker 7>you count the last one. So again, points started a premium,

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<v Speaker 7>especially in a shortened game, you know, playing against a

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<v Speaker 7>rushing team like Philly. So no, I don't feel it's

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<v Speaker 7>a step back. We're three and five, Thank you Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 7>My goodness, two games back with nine ago. Oh, we

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<v Speaker 7>better get a home win against We gotta give the

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<v Speaker 7>fans a pay course something because they keep showing out

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<v Speaker 7>for us and we're not putting on a great show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Cleveland was a reference to the Browns beating

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens twenty nine fourteen with Deshaun Watson out for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the year with an achilles injury. Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>turned to Jamis Winston at quarterback, and in his first

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<v Speaker 1>start in more than two years, the former Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 1>QB threw for three hundred and thirty four yards and

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<v Speaker 1>three touchdowns. Deshaun Watson has not passed for three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards in any of his nineteen starts with the Browns.

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore fell to five and three with the loss. The

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<v Speaker 1>Browns are two and six with the win, and the

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<v Speaker 1>five and two Steelers host the two and five New

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<v Speaker 1>York Giants on Monday night. Now, let's hear from Zach Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Lapham began their postgame conversation by mentioning how the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals converted nearly eighty percent of their third down opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>and still didn't score any points against the Vic Fangio

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<v Speaker 1>coached defense.

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<v Speaker 8>Coach tough one out there. I mean, you guys go

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<v Speaker 8>ten for thirteen. That's mind boggling to me. You convert

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<v Speaker 8>on third and twenty two and it just doesn't work out.

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<v Speaker 8>They make you earn everything, don't.

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<v Speaker 5>They They do, you know, And I felt like we

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<v Speaker 5>had a good performance and then second half it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>good enough. You know, we had a fourth down call

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<v Speaker 5>that certainly when it doesn't go that way, I regret.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to put us in a better position and

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<v Speaker 5>then two consecutive turnovers after that. So that's the story

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<v Speaker 5>of the second half there and stuff to swallow.

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<v Speaker 8>So the running game, I mean they got their running

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<v Speaker 8>game on track, particularly in the second half. Sa Quon

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<v Speaker 8>Barkley to finish the game was very strong run in

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<v Speaker 8>the football. What's your assessment. I know you've got tape

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<v Speaker 8>to watching all that. What's your knee jerk reaction? How

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<v Speaker 8>you ran the ball?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we got to take the pressure off our team

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<v Speaker 5>by by not being two scores down and being able

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<v Speaker 5>to get more runs off in the second half, and

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<v Speaker 5>so eventually you break one cat's kind of what happened

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<v Speaker 5>to them a little bit. So we didn't get four

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<v Speaker 5>shelves of that opportunity. I thought we were doing well

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<v Speaker 5>in the pass game in the first half, so leaned

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<v Speaker 5>more into that because it felt like we were doing

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<v Speaker 5>a nice job there and didn't give ourselves as many

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<v Speaker 5>opportunities in the run game.

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<v Speaker 8>From an explosive standpoint, had you had three pass plays

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<v Speaker 8>of fifteen yards and more, no runs of ten yards

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<v Speaker 8>and more. And when they on their explosives, they had

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<v Speaker 8>five runs of ten yards and more and eight passes

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<v Speaker 8>of fifteen yards and more. So that's a big part

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<v Speaker 8>of their game. And then just getting those explosives.

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<v Speaker 5>And those explosives came when they were up you know,

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<v Speaker 5>two scores, and that's where the runs come, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>typically what happens. And again that's on us to fin

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<v Speaker 5>that off in the second half and not put ourselves

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<v Speaker 5>in that position where they can just lean on their

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<v Speaker 5>run game, which is traditionally pretty strong.

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<v Speaker 8>It's amazing to me ten for thirteen on third down,

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<v Speaker 8>don't punt the football and the score is way I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>football continues to just boggle my mind. I mean I can't.

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<v Speaker 8>It's hard to figure out sometimes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, turnovers, you know, we essentially lost three to nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>The failed fourth down and then the two turnovers back

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<v Speaker 5>to back. That's the that's how it turns into a

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<v Speaker 5>from a seventeen all game or twenty four seventeen game

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<v Speaker 5>to thirty seven to seventeen and you're sitting there looking

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<v Speaker 5>at what went wrong and again those three straight possessions

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<v Speaker 5>and not being able to get the stops on the

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<v Speaker 5>other side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>It was difficult for us.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it was thirteen straight games going back to

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<v Speaker 8>last year, they had not won the turnover battle, the

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<v Speaker 8>turnover ratio, and they did get that done today. In

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<v Speaker 8>a game like this year, right, I mean two possessions

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<v Speaker 8>where you know, give them them extras and taking them

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<v Speaker 8>away from you. That's that's huge in a game like this.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's not good enough. You know, we got a

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<v Speaker 5>better job protecting the ball, better call on a fourth

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<v Speaker 5>down to get us in a better spot. And you

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<v Speaker 5>know we all gonna taken ownership for that.

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<v Speaker 8>So now you've got to put this one, this one

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<v Speaker 8>to bed and the income the Raiders, I mean, what

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<v Speaker 8>are your thoughts at this jonture.

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<v Speaker 5>We put ourselves a hole that we can dig out of,

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<v Speaker 5>you know. And so again we're not even at the

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<v Speaker 5>halfway point of this season yet, play eight, we got

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<v Speaker 5>nine and left. There's going to be opportunity for us.

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<v Speaker 5>We stick together, we take ownership, ignore the noise, find

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<v Speaker 5>ways to start pulling out wins, and we'll still be

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<v Speaker 5>in this thing at the end.

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<v Speaker 8>Appreciate your time as always.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks siv Up.

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<v Speaker 1>Next a home game against the two and six Las

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<v Speaker 1>Vegas Raiders, who lost to the undefeated Chiefs twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty. Gardner Minshew might have held down to the

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback job for another week by throwing a pair

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<v Speaker 1>of touchdown passes with a passer rating of one seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>the radio guys recap. Let's start with the running game.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty carries fifty eight yards for the Bengals today two

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<v Speaker 1>point nine yards per carry, one sixty one for Philly

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. A lot of that came late as

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<v Speaker 1>they put the game away. But can the Bengals be

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<v Speaker 1>the team that we thought that they were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be if they can't get some sort of consistent running

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<v Speaker 1>game going.

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<v Speaker 8>No, they have to pose some sort of a threat

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<v Speaker 8>in the running game at least has to be respected.

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<v Speaker 8>In the last couple of weeks, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 8>know either of those defenses of Cleveland Browns or the

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<v Speaker 8>Philadelphia was really respected what the Bengals were trying to

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<v Speaker 8>get done. Twenty carries for fifty eight yards. They had

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<v Speaker 8>thirty nine carries for one sixty one. They threw it

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<v Speaker 8>twenty times. Last week, he threw at fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>This week he.

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<v Speaker 8>Throws at twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, he's the twenty mark.

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<v Speaker 8>Sixteen for twenty two hundred thirty six yards, one thirty

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<v Speaker 8>two point five quarterback rating. With that one touchdown pass

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<v Speaker 8>of forty five yards, I mean the Bengals ran it

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<v Speaker 8>twenty times for fifty eight they throw it thirty seven times.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just a reverse once two to one run and

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<v Speaker 8>once two to one pass the football. And at the

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<v Speaker 8>end of the particularly, like you said, in the second

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<v Speaker 8>half and the fourth quarter in particular, the Eagles said,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, we're gonna Saquon Barkley you to death, and

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<v Speaker 8>you're gonna have to stop him. And the Bengals weren't

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<v Speaker 8>up to the up to the challenge. He had four

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<v Speaker 8>point nine a rush in this football game. He came

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<v Speaker 8>in averaging six point one. I mean, they are They

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<v Speaker 8>are ridiculous. To me, Dan, It's like you go ten

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<v Speaker 8>for thirteen on third down, ten for thirteen, don't pump

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<v Speaker 8>the football and lose by twenty points. Turnovers, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>they get stuffed on fourth down, that's a turnover. They

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<v Speaker 8>have an interception of the funnels, so they went across

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<v Speaker 8>the smorgas board, you know, one of each. So in

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<v Speaker 8>my mind, they're minus three in a game like this,

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<v Speaker 8>that's gonna be coffin nails for the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>And a missfield goal near midfield that's like a turnover realistically.

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<v Speaker 2>Very true.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, it's a you give them that kind of

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<v Speaker 8>field position, you know, the way they can handle things offensively,

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<v Speaker 8>it's a that's a that's a solid football team. I

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<v Speaker 8>mean they just the Bengals. That's seventeen play drive to

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<v Speaker 8>start the game, five straight third down conversions. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 8>oh man, this this is encourageble. They just make it

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<v Speaker 8>work so hard. I think the biggest thing in the game,

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<v Speaker 8>and one of the keys that we talked about, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>start the football game, explosives. I mean they had the

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<v Speaker 8>Bengals had three chunks or explosives Bengals had no running

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<v Speaker 8>plays of ten yards or more. They had three passing

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<v Speaker 8>plays of fifteen yards and more twenty eight yard, twenty

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<v Speaker 8>yards and more twenty eight yard or twenty four yarder,

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<v Speaker 8>forty one yarder Philadelphia. They had five chunk running plays,

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<v Speaker 8>five plays rushing players of ten yards of more twelve eleven,

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<v Speaker 8>nineteen seventeen, and eleven. They had three seven plays pass

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<v Speaker 8>players of fifteen yards and more twenty nine, nineteen seventeen, fifteen,

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<v Speaker 8>twenty eight, forty five, twenty three. So they chunked us,

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<v Speaker 8>They exploded us to death, and we couldn't meet the

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<v Speaker 8>mustard there.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are a passing team, and that's understandable with

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow, but when t Higgins is out, they're owing

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<v Speaker 1>three this year. They're so reliant on the combination of

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<v Speaker 1>Chase and Higgins that when one of those guys isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the field, as we said earlier, they don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>reliable running game that they can go to that offsets

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<v Speaker 1>the loss of one of those great receivers.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and I think, you know, Gaziki seemed to be

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<v Speaker 8>the guy. You know, Te's six five, you know, two

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<v Speaker 8>hundred and twenty pounds whatever. Well, Gaziki's he's six six

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<v Speaker 8>and two hundred and forty five pounds, eight targets, seven catches,

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<v Speaker 8>seventy three yards, heather a twenty four yard long. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>he was very very bemoaning the fact that you know,

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<v Speaker 8>he turned it over. That was something that was a

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<v Speaker 8>tough pill for him to swallow. But yeah, T Higgins

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<v Speaker 8>and Jamar Chase, it's like peanut butter and jelly man.

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<v Speaker 8>They're good at part that they're better together, and when

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<v Speaker 8>they're not together, you know, it's just peanut butter. It's

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<v Speaker 8>a different kind of sandwich. It's a little drier.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Bengals defense played well the last couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was against the Giants and the Browns with

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson and quarterback for most of that game. For

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns. The last three times they played really good offenses.

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<v Speaker 1>The defense has struggled. What is the biggest di in

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<v Speaker 1>your opinion of the Bengals defense.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean lou and Arumo.

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<v Speaker 8>The Bengals were had given up the fewest players of

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<v Speaker 8>twenty yards and more coming into the football game. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>that's that's the big thing in Philadelphia. They went on

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<v Speaker 8>multiple play drives. I mean they have a ten play

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<v Speaker 8>sixty two yard drive, twelve plays seventy three yard drive.

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<v Speaker 8>Then they have like a three play seventy yard drive.

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<v Speaker 8>They have a six play seventy yard drive. I mean

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<v Speaker 8>they had had both. They pounded they you know, put

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<v Speaker 8>you in a meat grinder and pounded you into submission,

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<v Speaker 8>played bully ball when they needed to, and then they

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<v Speaker 8>would complement it with a chunk. I mean, there are

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of their passes, I'd say, if not all,

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<v Speaker 8>a high percentage of their explosives in the passing game

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<v Speaker 8>was off of play action because they had the line

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<v Speaker 8>of scrimmage captured, you know, and they were running the

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<v Speaker 8>play action you know, off the counters and pulling linemen.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean exactly the same look. So all those linebackers

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<v Speaker 8>and safeties have to do is take one step towards

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<v Speaker 8>the line of scrimmage. Now you're in trouble. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>have a hard time getting to where you're supposed to get,

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<v Speaker 8>and you're coming up a little short and hurts is

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<v Speaker 8>good enough where he's gonna gash you on it. So

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<v Speaker 8>this this guy, he's a he's a uniquely gifted man.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, he can hurt you with his throwing arm,

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<v Speaker 8>he can hurt you with his feet. He had thirty

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<v Speaker 8>seven yards. He had ten carries, and some of them

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<v Speaker 8>were designed. Some of them were into quarterback draws as

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<v Speaker 8>long as it was a twelve yarder. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>the guy squats like six hundred pounds. So when they

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<v Speaker 8>do the toush push, it's like having a you know,

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<v Speaker 8>an extra alignment in there pushing from behind, never mind

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<v Speaker 8>even a running back. And if Saquon's in there pushing

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<v Speaker 8>my hand, Saquon squats about the same. These guys squatted

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<v Speaker 8>the world for crying out loud. They're ridiculously strong in

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<v Speaker 8>their legs and it's an interesting thing to have to

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<v Speaker 8>deal with. And the Bengals defense had their hands full,

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<v Speaker 8>there's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Evan McPherson. Maybe I shouldn't make too

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<v Speaker 1>big of a deal about missing a fifty four yard

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<v Speaker 1>field though that's a long kick, obviously, but he's missed

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<v Speaker 1>three out of his last four field goals after starting

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<v Speaker 1>the year nine for he didn't suddenly become a mediocre kicker.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of the best in the league. There's something

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<v Speaker 1>about the operation, snap, hold, kick, whatever, that's just not

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<v Speaker 1>working as smoothly as we're accustomed to seeing.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean I think that there's you know, when

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<v Speaker 8>a kicker approaches the football totally confident that it's going

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<v Speaker 8>to be exactly where it's supposed to be, when it's

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<v Speaker 8>supposed to be there, it's easy peasy, the doesn't even

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<v Speaker 8>think about it. But he's had some instances where it's

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<v Speaker 8>not so I think right now, you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>sure he probably would say, Look, I'm not struggling with

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<v Speaker 8>that aspect of it. I am just anticipating the ball

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<v Speaker 8>is going to be there and I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 8>right through it. I thought the fifty four yard it

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<v Speaker 8>looked to me like the operation was pretty good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>there wasn't any bobb will get the hold down. Now,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not saying I don't know. I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 8>the hold is being held the exact way that he

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<v Speaker 8>wants it held, or whatever the case may be. And

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes in those long few that's all it takes, is

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<v Speaker 8>a little thing like that. But man, he had plenty

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<v Speaker 8>of height and plenty of distance on that bad boy.

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<v Speaker 8>He just kind of pulled it a little bit and

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<v Speaker 8>you know, maybe started out a little bit more of

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<v Speaker 8>the right, but he's missed more field goals I think

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<v Speaker 8>to the right than to the left. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 8>pushed them. He doesn't like to you know, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>like cooking the football, and he's hooked it a little

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<v Speaker 8>bit too many times this year. I think probably his

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<v Speaker 8>liking for sure. So yeah, it's just when it rains,

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<v Speaker 8>it poors.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess eight games done, nine to go. Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>in his postgame news conference said, well, to make the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>we probably need to win ten games. That would mean

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<v Speaker 1>going seven and two the rest of the way. Have

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<v Speaker 1>we seen enough when the Bengals have had their good

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<v Speaker 1>moments to think that, Okay, I can see a scenario

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<v Speaker 1>where they go seven and two.

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<v Speaker 8>As Force greg said, Paul Brown said it early on

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<v Speaker 8>in my career. Force Gregg reiterated it. You are what

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<v Speaker 8>your record says you are. Joe Burrow in the postgame said,

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<v Speaker 8>we're not very right now, and it's hard to argue

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<v Speaker 8>with you know, if you're a three and five football team,

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<v Speaker 8>you are what your record says you are, and you're

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<v Speaker 8>not very good right now. You're not good enough. Shoot,

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<v Speaker 8>I got to beat Las Vegas here and get that

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<v Speaker 8>first home when I cannot believe, cannot believe they're all

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<v Speaker 8>for a pay Corps. It's like, and we knew that

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<v Speaker 8>that New England game was going to be oh and

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<v Speaker 8>everybody's still grinding, gritting their teeth over that one. But

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<v Speaker 8>four games lost at pay Corps Stadium, and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>right after that, you got to go to Baltimore on

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<v Speaker 8>Thursday night and beat the Ravens and it's a division battle,

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<v Speaker 8>and uh, they're gonna they're gonna have, you know, a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit of dirt in their eye. So it's difficult

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<v Speaker 8>to say the least, but they have put themselves behind

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<v Speaker 8>the eight ball. They were crawling out of a hole.

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<v Speaker 8>Then they fell back in and the hole got a

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<v Speaker 8>little deeper. Instead of being five hundred, you're three and five,

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<v Speaker 8>eight games in, four and four eight games in. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>well there's not that many left, but we're hanging in there.

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<v Speaker 8>But now you have to win two before you lose

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<v Speaker 8>another football game, just to get back, even just to

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<v Speaker 8>get your head and your eyeballs above the hole above

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<v Speaker 8>the ground line. Tush lead men.

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<v Speaker 1>Two losses at home where they haven't punted.

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<v Speaker 8>Ridiculous, ridiculous, it's crazy, it is. I mean, the more

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<v Speaker 8>games you watch, I mean ten of thirteen on third down,

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<v Speaker 8>don't punt once and lose the football game by twenty

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<v Speaker 8>My goodness, I just a plus B an equal C

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<v Speaker 8>to me, I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>It equals, and I ain't see unfortunately equals L.

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<v Speaker 8>Capital L, no question underlying a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are three and one on the road but

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<v Speaker 1>zero and four at home. They open as an eight

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<v Speaker 1>and a half point favorite against the Raiders for next

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday's game. Finally, it's time for this week's fun fat segment,

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<v Speaker 1>and it might be my favorite one so far this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Time for some fun facts in safety Day. Jon Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>from Richmond, Virginia, the capital city in that state. What

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<v Speaker 1>does a kid do for fun growing up in Richmond, Virginia.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, in my generation, we was outside and we used

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<v Speaker 6>to play basketball, outside, football, hide and go seek.

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<v Speaker 2>So we used to just hang out around the way

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<v Speaker 2>and just have a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dejhon, your Instagram account begins with rip Nana and

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<v Speaker 1>rip mama. You lost your mom when you're in fifth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>you lost your grandmother when you're in college. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>describe the impact those two women had on your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, like my mom, she just was a soldier.

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<v Speaker 6>Like she was sick for like three years and she

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<v Speaker 6>just kept fighting and was always there, came to all

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<v Speaker 6>my games and my dad was incocelerated, so she was

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<v Speaker 6>really playing a big role. I had two other brothers

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<v Speaker 6>and his sister, and she was just doing everything she could.

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<v Speaker 6>And then on the back and like we always live

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<v Speaker 6>with our grandmother, her mama to my grandma, and she

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<v Speaker 6>was just like you know, a guyfaenir and woman and

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<v Speaker 6>she just put everybody else before her. So like, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>they they raised me. And the reason why, like I

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<v Speaker 6>have the strength and to keep going every single day.

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<v Speaker 6>So I just loved him to death and I just

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<v Speaker 6>want to keep making them proud.

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<v Speaker 1>Your college football career began at Shepherd University, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a Division two school in West Virginia. It's about a

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<v Speaker 1>three hour drive from Richmond. How did you wind up there?

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<v Speaker 6>So? I had the transfer high schools my senior year

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<v Speaker 6>and that's why I couldn't. Uh, that's why I kind

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<v Speaker 6>of lost a lot of interest because I missed the

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<v Speaker 6>first five games my high school career. Then I ended

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<v Speaker 6>up catching like seven picks that year. Last again, I

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<v Speaker 6>called four paces in one game and I thought I

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<v Speaker 6>was gonna blow up, but I didn't, And it was

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<v Speaker 6>a It was coach Sam Daniels. She was a Shepherd coach.

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<v Speaker 6>He was down at my school and he came and

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<v Speaker 6>touch to me. He was like, we want to bring

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<v Speaker 6>you on a visit, and I went on to visit

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<v Speaker 6>up there. I went on a visit to Virginia State

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<v Speaker 6>and Shepherd, and I was like, I ain't want to

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<v Speaker 6>stay close to home, so I picked Sheppard University.

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<v Speaker 1>The quarterback your freshman year was Tyson Bagent, who started

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<v Speaker 1>four games for the Chicago Bears last year and did

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<v Speaker 1>really well. Did you have any inkling that you might

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<v Speaker 1>be playing with a future pro at Shepherd U.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean yeah, you could kind of see. Like we

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<v Speaker 6>had a lot of D one bouncebacks too, and Shepard.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean Tyson, he was like the Gatoray Player of

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<v Speaker 6>the Year in high school like two years in a row.

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<v Speaker 6>So it was like we knew he only wanted to

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<v Speaker 6>stay at Shepherd stay because he wanted to be at home,

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<v Speaker 6>but like he had a lot of offers.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, like we always knew he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be great.

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<v Speaker 6>You just don't know how far somebody can go, because

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes it's not just you, it's like God might have

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<v Speaker 6>another plan for you. But we knew he was going

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<v Speaker 6>to be great, and he showed that even when we

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<v Speaker 6>was young, like first getting out there, all of us

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<v Speaker 6>did kind of me and Tyson, a couple other teammates

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<v Speaker 6>that could have kept going just didn't have the opportunities

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<v Speaker 6>that we did.

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<v Speaker 1>We're visiting with Dejon Anthony. I read an interview where

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<v Speaker 1>you said that when you were at Shepherd, your grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>treated it like you were playing at Alabama.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, my grandma, she was just one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 6>supporters I ever had in my life. My whole family

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<v Speaker 6>is honestly, like if anybody like pay attention, like I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't have probably twenty people at every game, like immediate family,

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<v Speaker 6>dry party and hunted. Some people like my family just

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<v Speaker 6>such like they supported me so much. And my grandma

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<v Speaker 6>that was just like like that was like my best friend.

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<v Speaker 6>Like everything I did was with her. I told her everything,

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<v Speaker 6>like everybody know, I was kind of her favorite, and

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<v Speaker 6>like she used to get on that road every Saturday

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<v Speaker 6>morning and come straight up to my d two games

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<v Speaker 6>with her jersey on custom shirts Jordan's.

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<v Speaker 2>And just have a good time.

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<v Speaker 6>So uh, she just loved She just loved to see

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<v Speaker 6>me getting out of you know, getting out of out

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<v Speaker 6>of where where we grew up at, like just doing

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<v Speaker 6>something that a lot of family members didn't do. A

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<v Speaker 6>lot of my family didn't go to college. I'm the

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<v Speaker 6>first one to graduate college, first one to play D

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<v Speaker 6>one football college football period. So uh, I think that

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<v Speaker 6>was just a blessing for her, just to see me away.

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<v Speaker 1>Your second year, Shepherd was wiped out due to COVID

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<v Speaker 1>and you walked on at Liberty. After that, it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like it didn't take very long for you to earn

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<v Speaker 1>a scholarship.

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<v Speaker 6>So in January, you know, it's just waits and like conditioning,

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<v Speaker 6>it's just a winter conditioning.

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<v Speaker 2>And then March, you know, we started springball. Uh, first

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<v Speaker 2>day I was coach.

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<v Speaker 6>They tried to put me on scholarship the first day,

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<v Speaker 6>but I didn't have my transcripts, official transcripts on file,

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<v Speaker 6>so we had to get them from Shepherd. So uh,

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<v Speaker 6>I was a walk on, but I started one on ones,

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<v Speaker 6>Like I jumped out there a corner first for one

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<v Speaker 6>ones and had good rest, and Coach Freeze called the

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<v Speaker 6>last one. He always called two people out, and he

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 6>called me and another person out and I we just

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<v Speaker 6>just having fun. Caught an interception that first day, So

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<v Speaker 6>it was a good It was a good experience, Nick,

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<v Speaker 6>and I just ran with it after that.

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<v Speaker 1>While you were at Liberty, your grandmother was diagnosed with cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>and every day after practice you would drive ninety minutes

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<v Speaker 1>to spend time with her. There's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>free time in the college student athlete experience. Why was

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<v Speaker 1>it so important for you to do that every day?

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<v Speaker 6>Just like I said earlier, that was my best friend

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<v Speaker 6>and she had stage four cancer September.

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<v Speaker 2>It's January. You don't know what it is gonna be.

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<v Speaker 6>So I go to practice early morning, go to my classes.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm probably getting done at like three o'clock, get on

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<v Speaker 6>the road through thirty, gets on the eat, get on

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<v Speaker 6>the road, get there around like five, beat traffic and

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<v Speaker 6>chill with her to probably like two three in the morning,

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<v Speaker 6>get back on the road, go write to practice. So

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<v Speaker 6>it was just like like it won't even know sacrifice

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<v Speaker 6>or nothing. That's something that's my grandma, Like that's the

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<v Speaker 6>person that raised me. So like I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 6>make sure I was there whenever the moment didn't happen,

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<v Speaker 6>and knew it was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>She had stomach cancer.

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<v Speaker 6>It's for you to be there all the way to

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<v Speaker 6>March from September with stage for a stomach cancer. All

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<v Speaker 6>she was trying to do was just come to my

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<v Speaker 6>spring game. So that's why she kept holding on. She

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<v Speaker 6>just kept saying she wanted to see me play one

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<v Speaker 6>time in D one. So uh yeah, I just kept

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<v Speaker 6>driving back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>For you spent your final year of college football playing

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<v Speaker 1>at all MESS. When you entered the transfer portal, did

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<v Speaker 1>you finally get that experience of what it was like

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<v Speaker 1>to be recruited.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that was my first time being recruited. Or when

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<v Speaker 6>I hit the transfer portal, I kind of blew up.

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<v Speaker 6>I kind of almost had like every SEC school, every

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 6>ACC school I was getting called. I had like four

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<v Speaker 6>visits set up. The first hour I was in the

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<v Speaker 6>trans supporter schools was calling me left and right, calling

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<v Speaker 6>my old coaches, like my coach that's at SMU, Coach Huntley,

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<v Speaker 6>the one that got me the liberty. He called me

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<v Speaker 6>like three times that day and it was just like

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<v Speaker 6>I just got out the phone, like five different schools

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<v Speaker 6>about you.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was like that was it was a really good.

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<v Speaker 6>Feeling, just you know, finally getting the credit and the flowers.

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<v Speaker 6>But it's just all God timing and he know when

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<v Speaker 6>it's right for you and when it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>All Miss had a great year and show did you?

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<v Speaker 1>The team went eleven and two and won the Peach Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>You had an interception in that game. What was the

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<v Speaker 1>best part of your year at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Miss?

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<v Speaker 6>I'd say the LSU win, the big hit in LSU

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<v Speaker 6>and I had the game winn PBu. We was down

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<v Speaker 6>people don't know, like we was down by ten, well

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<v Speaker 6>like three minutes left to the Heisman quarterback Wanner to

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<v Speaker 6>you know, both of those top receivers that went top

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen this year, like they had a explosive offense and

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 6>being down by team with three minutes left, that that

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 6>that and for us to win that game, that's that's

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 6>brotherhood right there. That's the termination. That's like keeping your

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 6>foot on the guys, that's trusting everybody. So right then

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 6>I knew, like, man, this team's special. And we broke

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:28.439
<v Speaker 6>a record. They never won eleven games in Old Miss history.

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 6>They never had eleven win season. So uh, that was

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 6>just a really good experience. Just you know the LSU game.

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<v Speaker 6>Man the teen they rushed the car, they rushed the

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 6>field after like everybody rushed the field. I'm laying on

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:45.760
<v Speaker 6>the ground like wow, it just won, and everybody running

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 6>over me. So I feel like that was probably my

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 6>my favorite experience there. And then definitely the bowl game

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 6>cause they had everybody had pans they beating us, and

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 6>we went out there and beat like beat them, beat 'em.

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 6>And I had like seventy family members there, so it

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:02.360
<v Speaker 6>was like this my last game of college.

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 2>I went crazy. It had like three PPU's a pick.

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 6>So both of those games was like you know, and

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.399
<v Speaker 6>then the old the rival game, the egg Bow versus

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 6>Mississippi State. I had fifteen tackles that game, and that's

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 6>a really lit game for you know, all old miss

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 6>alumnis and Mississippi State guys.

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 1>You reference the big hit, I need to follow up.

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>You made a jarring hit on Jaden Daniels in that

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>LSU game that forced to fumble. And if somebody types

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 1>your name into a Google search and says, stay Jon

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Anthony hit, that is the first thing that's going to

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>pop up. What was it like to have that that

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>blow up moment?

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 6>I mean it just you know, like you said, man,

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 6>you put in all the work in the off season

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 6>and for it to finally happen, like because I kind

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 6>of was trending a lot like the first game I

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 6>called a pick at Old Miss. Second game, I was

0:35:56.440 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 6>PFF top three safeties. I had like eight argut is

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 6>at nickel and strong safety and no catches. Played Georgia Tech.

0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 6>I had a really good game. Then we played Bama

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 6>then LSU, so it was like I was blowing up.

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 6>And then like after that, I really like like the

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 6>hit was the viral thing. But I feel like the

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 6>game winning PBu like that's what like kind of did

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 6>it for me because I hit him twice like that

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 6>that game. One got caught for a flag, then one

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 6>and then and then just the PBu man like at

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 6>the end, like when all the like stress and tension

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 6>just left your body and we like there's no flags,

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 6>the game is over. So uh it just felt good, man,

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 6>It's just a blessing.

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm draft ed this year. You had a big party

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>with friends and family, more than one hundred people looking on.

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>It was so loud and festive, you couldn't hear Zach

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Taylor when he called you, correct.

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:51.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I couldn't. I didn't know what he was saying,

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 6>so I knew the right answer was just to say yes, sir.

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 6>So I just kept saying yes sir because I didn't

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 6>want to I didn't want to say like something, and

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 6>he was like, what is he talking about? Like because

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 6>I couldn't hear what he was saying. So I just

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 6>was like, yes, sir, Yes sir.

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.919
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yes sir, followed by I love your coach

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>at the end.

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's a life changing thing for you

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 2>to be.

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 6>You know a lot of people ain't think I could

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 6>get here from being Division two, So you know, just

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 6>coming from division two and working your way up the ladder.

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Like it's not easy.

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 6>So that day, you know, I was projected to go

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 6>way earlier than that, but I got a couple of

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 6>trouble incidents, of which I said before. So you know,

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 6>just waiting around all day, you see people that you

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 6>feel like not better than you, and that car. When

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 6>you get that car, it's like how I said with

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 6>the LSU game, it's like it's just relief, Like all

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 6>the tension, anxiety just go out the window.

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>A few wild card topics now with Dejon Anthony to

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>wrap things up. Did you treat yourself to anything after

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you signed your first professional contract?

0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I just gotta chain. That's represent in my grandma.

0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 6>They said grandma baby, and then they got Nanna on it,

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 6>and then it got the day she was born, the

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 6>day she died, and the picture of me and her

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 6>on the back.

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 2>That's really it. The rest. I've just been trying to

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 2>save up, you know, just keep investing in stuff like that.

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she would be very proud of that. Other

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 1>than sports, what are you good at?

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm good at I'm good at. I feel like I'm

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:25.479
<v Speaker 6>good at a lot of things, Like I played the game.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 6>I'm a competitive person, like I like doing a lot

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.760
<v Speaker 6>of stuff. But I definitely say the game.

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 6>I'm kind of good like I like fashion, so like

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 6>I'm good at dressing and stuff, you know, trying to

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 6>put on.

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 2>I could pick out office. I could be a stylist

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:44.240
<v Speaker 2>for people.

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I might need to take you up on that, all right.

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Final fun fact, this one's kind of deep. If you

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 1>could meet anybody in history, living or deceased, who would

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that person be?

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 6>I definitely want to say Kobe, but I probably I

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 6>might say, like, you know, Nipsey Hustle or cause you know,

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 6>just the solid type of guy he is and just

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 6>take care of everybody. And you know he's always thinking big,

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 6>thinking about what's next and not getting comfortable, like you know,

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 6>that's what he preached. So like I say Nipsy and

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 6>then uh probably like right now that's living probably a

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 6>little baby the rapper just all the same thing as Nipsey,

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 6>Like just a solid dude, great man, always take care

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 6>of everybody. You'll never know if anything wrong with him.

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 6>So those are the type of people I look up to,

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 6>and I try to be like that. Just that's why

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 6>I do this. So I can make sure everybody in

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 6>my family don't have the struggle and stuff like that

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 6>and just change you know, family last name forever, like

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 6>like I'm setting the standard, like it's not just graduate

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 6>high school no more, it's you're going to college. You're

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 6>going to do this, like, so you know those type

0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 6>of people I really like to meet one day. Well, Nipsey,

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 6>rest in peace with a little baby.

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>For so this has been outstanding. I really appreciate your time.

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 1>You're very easy to root for. We wish you nothing

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>but the best best of luck the rest of the year.

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, man, I appreciate you for you for your

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 2>time too.

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