1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: Hi, gain everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The I Can't Tell You addition, 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: as the Bengals fall to three and five overall and 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: zero and four at home with a thirty seven to 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: seventeen loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, coming up radio replays, 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: locker room comments and postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: in this week's fun Facts Conversation, you'll learn why Dejon 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: Anthony is a very easy player to root for. 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It's the 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: greatest thing since caffeine. I am incredibly fortunate to broadcast 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: NFL and college football games on a weekly basis, but 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: the schedule makers aren't always kind. This weekend, the University 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati's game at Colorado kicked off at ten fifteen 22 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: Eastern on Saturday night, and the Bengals game the next 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: day was moved up from four point fifteen to one PM. 24 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: That meant a. 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: Quick turnaround for yours, truly. The UC team plane landed 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: back in Cincinnati just before seven am, and unfortunately, I'm 27 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: not great at sleeping on planes. The solution coffee, lots 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: of it. Caffeine is definitely my drug of choice. Now, 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: let's get to football and the radio replays from Sunday's 30 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: game in the Jungle this afternoon here in Since the 31 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: sky is blue, the field is green, and the Bengals 32 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: and their fans are wearing white, it is White Bengal 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: Day in the Jungle. The Bengals are a perfect four 34 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: and oh when wearing their icy cool white helmets, and 35 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: they will look to remain perfect today as they host 36 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. Burrow catches, drops back to throw, begins 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: rolling to the right. He's at the twelve yard line, 38 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: throws into the end zone on leaping catch and a 39 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: touchdown by Jamar Chase, and the Bengals take more than 40 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: nine minutes off the clock and score a touchdown to 41 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: begin the game. 42 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: Oh about it, man, They go five for five On 43 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: third down. 44 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: This will be a fifty four yard attempt for Evan McPherson. 45 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: He's missed three field goals this year. Two of the 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: three have been from fifty plus from the right. Hash 47 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: Adam Midas ready to snap it back to Rico. The snap, 48 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: the placement and the right footed it is blasted by 49 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: McPherson and it is wide left. Burrow hands it to 50 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: night Brown. Night flying up the middle of the field. 51 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: Had the search takes him. 52 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 4: Into the end zone. 53 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Touchdown. Bengals on second down and eight Hurts fakes to Barkley, 54 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: rolls right, wants to launch it deep downfield toward the 55 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: end zone. Caught by Devonte Smith, touchdown Philly. 56 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: Jordan Battle in coverage. 57 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: That's a uh, that's a matchup that that right there. 58 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurt says, I've got one of my speed receivers 59 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: on a safety in Battle did not have terrible coverage. 60 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: It's just an outstanding throw by Jalen Hurt. 61 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Now the Bengals are probably going to have to throw 62 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: it on fourth and one. Philadelphia is showing pressure. Chase 63 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: goes in motion. Burrow will look to pass, throws it 64 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: for Chase makes the catch, loses a yard, tackled by 65 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: Cooper de Gene. The Bengals failed to convert on third 66 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: and half a yard, then fourth in a full yard, 67 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: and Philadelphia takes over at the Cincinnati thirty eight with 68 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: a chance to really put Cincinnati in a bind. On 69 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: first and ten from the forty six, Burrow fires deep 70 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: down the right sideline incomplete. Was it picked off or incomplete? 71 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: It is intercepted. It got deflected into the hands of C. J. 72 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson by Isaiah Rodgers. Here comes the brotherly shove 73 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 1: as Hurtz looking for his third touchdown run of the game. 74 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: He charges forward. It's a touchdown and the fans can 75 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: stream for the exits. Philadelphia is going to hand Cincinnati 76 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: it's fourth consecutive home loss. Burrow to throw on first 77 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: and ten. His pass caught about four yards up the field. 78 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: The ball comes out. Philadelphia is celebrating, Wow, Kaziki fumbled. 79 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: The Eagles recover. They'll take over at the thirty two 80 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati thirty seconds to go. Another handoff to Chase 81 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Brown looks like he picked up enough for the first down. 82 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: He did, but that's going to be the final play 83 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: of the game. A long frustrating walk toward the center 84 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: of the field for Zach Taylor as his team gets 85 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: outscored twenty nothing in the final twenty minutes of the 86 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: game and loses at home to the Philadelphia Eagles. The 87 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: final score today thirty seven to seventeen Philly. After scoring 88 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: thirty three or more points in three straight games, the 89 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: Bengals have managed seventeen, fourteen and seventeen on offense in 90 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: their last three. I didn't count the kick return touchdown 91 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: by Charlie Jones against Cleveland. The offense was good for 92 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: two and a half quarters on Sunday. On their first 93 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: four drives, the Bengals scored two touchdowns, made a field goal, 94 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: and missed a field goal. But the game turned late 95 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: in the third quarter. Down by seven points. On third 96 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: and less than a yard their own thirty nine, the 97 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: Bengals handed the ball to Zach Moss, who lost to 98 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: half a yard. They went for it on fourth and one, 99 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: and a swing pass to Jamar Chase lost two more 100 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: yards that led to a Philly field goal and the 101 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: Bengals never threatened. Again, here are Zach Taylor and Ted 102 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Karris on that sequence. 103 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, I felt like we needed to be aggressive there. 104 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: It didn't work out, So that's frustrating, you know. And 105 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 5: so again I put that on myself situation where I 106 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: felt like we need to be aggressive and go score 107 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 5: in that possession, given we were down seven, and anytime 108 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 5: it doesn't go well, obviously you're gonna think a long 109 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 5: and hard about that decision. 110 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 6: He used to being about to play call on fourth 111 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 6: and one, other screening to Marls the idea. 112 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 5: There, Yeah, he's one of the options. And you know, again, 113 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 5: the point didn't work, and that's one hundred percent on me. 114 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 7: We got to get on third and one, so I'm 115 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 7: not even worried about the pass. I think the the 116 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 7: run on third and one. 117 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 4: You know, we gotta have that. 118 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 7: It's gonna gonna eat at me for twenty four hours, 119 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 7: and then we got to get onto Vegas. 120 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: The Bengal entered the game tied for twenty eighth in 121 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: the NFL and rushing yards per game and tied for 122 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: twentieth and rushing yards per attempt. They are not going 123 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: to climb in the rankings after averaging two point nine 124 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: yards against Philly. Their longest run by a running back 125 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: and seventeen attempts was five yards. I spoke to Ted 126 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: Karris after the game, who says, it's not time to 127 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: panic yet. 128 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: I don't think three and five is a panic mode. 129 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 7: You know, two games back with nine to play, you 130 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 7: know that's a that's a lot of time. There's a 131 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 7: lot of football to be played. You know, season not 132 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 7: even halfway over. Again, hate having to keep saying that, 133 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 7: but you know, no one's panicking. And we have you know, 134 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 7: credit to the to the organization for the quality of 135 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 7: young men that we have in this locker room. And 136 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 7: guys are gonna come tomorrow ready to go, and then 137 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 7: Wednesday ready to go. We got to get our first 138 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 7: home win, and that's what we're focused on. You know, 139 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 7: we can we can talk about January. 140 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: All we want. What we need to do is win 141 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: in Paycorps. 142 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: You know, right after Halloween, even with Joe and as 143 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: good as the passing game is, do you feel like 144 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: you need a dependable running game? Is that a must 145 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: going forward? 146 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 4: It is a must. I mean, it's always a must. 147 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: I mean I would like to give that to Joe. 148 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 7: One time in his career, it'd be nice, you know, 149 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 7: and we got to execute up front, and that's we 150 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 7: didn't today. I don't think we ran the ball very 151 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 7: well at all, but a few, but not enough to 152 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 7: spark any confidence in increasing the value. 153 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: I think you converted your first eight third down conversion 154 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: something like that, which is great obviously, But is that 155 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: also what Philadelphia does. They force you to convert third 156 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: after third after third by you know, kind of taking 157 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: away the deep ball and forcing you to nickel and 158 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: dime your way down the field. 159 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 4: I guess that's what they did today. 160 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 7: But we were converting and you know, sustaining drives mean 161 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 7: to open up the game with a ten minute drive, 162 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 7: I thought that was pretty encouraging and it was gonna 163 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 7: be one of those games where you know, we had 164 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 7: to get get ourselves down there and score on possessions 165 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 7: because they're doing the same thing. You know, they had 166 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 7: I think they had a ten minute drive as well. 167 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 7: So it's just it's just a show game. You know, 168 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 7: we only have three possessions in the first half. Usually 169 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 7: you get about six, I would say, So you know, 170 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 7: the game is shorter, so points are at a premium, 171 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 7: and we got to end in touchdowns. They did and 172 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 7: we didn't, and that's ultimately the difference in the game. 173 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: Maybe a stupid question, I'll ask it anyway, Why doesn't 174 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: every team do the tush push? 175 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 7: They don't have a quarterback and squad six hundred pounds, 176 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 7: I'd say is probably the most obvious answer. You know, 177 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 7: I don't think we've seen other teams do it to 178 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 7: no success. I think a lot of teams have tried 179 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 7: it and got out of it right away. Again, who 180 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 7: their quarterback is. You know, they have a quarterback who's 181 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 7: built like a running back. 182 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: So not to say he's running, but he's a good quarterback. 183 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 7: But I think that just you know, and they had 184 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 7: Jason Kelcey very you know, smaller center, good leverage athlete, 185 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 7: you know, the Cam Jurgens. Now, obviously they've studied it, 186 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 7: they practice it a lot, they know what they're doing. 187 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 7: And again, it doesn't it's not one hundred percent, but 188 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 7: you know, it's a war of Yeah, it's. 189 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: A war of attrition in there. 190 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 7: And I just think that personnel wise, we've seen other 191 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 7: teams try it and fail. 192 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: So I think it's you know. 193 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 7: That's a that's a unique Philly thing that they do. 194 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: You feel like you keep reaching a point where you're 195 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: just kind of like on the verge of flipping things 196 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: five hundred or whatever, and then it's a step backward. 197 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: I mean it's the NFL. 198 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 7: I mean, this is uh, you know, this is this 199 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 7: is the big, big boys league. So you know you 200 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 7: better be ready to go and come out, you know, 201 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 7: come out in the second half, you know, traded touchdowns 202 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 7: and then didn't convert a fourth down and the game. 203 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: Got busted open. So that's that's what it is. 204 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't even know how many positions we 205 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 7: had in the second half by four, maybe five if 206 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 7: you count the last one. So again, points started a premium, 207 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 7: especially in a shortened game, you know, playing against a 208 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 7: rushing team like Philly. So no, I don't feel it's 209 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 7: a step back. We're three and five, Thank you Cleveland. 210 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 7: My goodness, two games back with nine ago. Oh, we 211 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 7: better get a home win against We gotta give the 212 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 7: fans a pay course something because they keep showing out 213 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 7: for us and we're not putting on a great show. 214 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Thank you Cleveland was a reference to the Browns beating 215 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens twenty nine fourteen with Deshaun Watson out for 216 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the year with an achilles injury. Cleveland 217 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: turned to Jamis Winston at quarterback, and in his first 218 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: start in more than two years, the former Tampa Bay 219 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: QB threw for three hundred and thirty four yards and 220 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: three touchdowns. Deshaun Watson has not passed for three hundred 221 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: yards in any of his nineteen starts with the Browns. 222 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: Baltimore fell to five and three with the loss. The 223 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: Browns are two and six with the win, and the 224 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: five and two Steelers host the two and five New 225 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: York Giants on Monday night. Now, let's hear from Zach Taylor. 226 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: Dave Lapham began their postgame conversation by mentioning how the 227 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: Bengals converted nearly eighty percent of their third down opportunities 228 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: and still didn't score any points against the Vic Fangio 229 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 1: coached defense. 230 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 8: Coach tough one out there. I mean, you guys go 231 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 8: ten for thirteen. That's mind boggling to me. You convert 232 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 8: on third and twenty two and it just doesn't work out. 233 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 8: They make you earn everything, don't. 234 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 5: They They do, you know, And I felt like we 235 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 5: had a good performance and then second half it wasn't 236 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: good enough. You know, we had a fourth down call 237 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 5: that certainly when it doesn't go that way, I regret. 238 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 5: I got to put us in a better position and 239 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 5: then two consecutive turnovers after that. So that's the story 240 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 5: of the second half there and stuff to swallow. 241 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 8: So the running game, I mean they got their running 242 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 8: game on track, particularly in the second half. Sa Quon 243 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 8: Barkley to finish the game was very strong run in 244 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 8: the football. What's your assessment. I know you've got tape 245 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 8: to watching all that. What's your knee jerk reaction? How 246 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 8: you ran the ball? 247 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 5: Well, we got to take the pressure off our team 248 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 5: by by not being two scores down and being able 249 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 5: to get more runs off in the second half, and 250 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 5: so eventually you break one cat's kind of what happened 251 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 5: to them a little bit. So we didn't get four 252 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 5: shelves of that opportunity. I thought we were doing well 253 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 5: in the pass game in the first half, so leaned 254 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 5: more into that because it felt like we were doing 255 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 5: a nice job there and didn't give ourselves as many 256 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 5: opportunities in the run game. 257 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 8: From an explosive standpoint, had you had three pass plays 258 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 8: of fifteen yards and more, no runs of ten yards 259 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 8: and more. And when they on their explosives, they had 260 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 8: five runs of ten yards and more and eight passes 261 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 8: of fifteen yards and more. So that's a big part 262 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 8: of their game. And then just getting those explosives. 263 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 5: And those explosives came when they were up you know, 264 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 5: two scores, and that's where the runs come, and that's 265 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: typically what happens. And again that's on us to fin 266 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 5: that off in the second half and not put ourselves 267 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 5: in that position where they can just lean on their 268 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 5: run game, which is traditionally pretty strong. 269 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 8: It's amazing to me ten for thirteen on third down, 270 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 8: don't punt the football and the score is way I mean, 271 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 8: football continues to just boggle my mind. I mean I can't. 272 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 8: It's hard to figure out sometimes. 273 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, turnovers, you know, we essentially lost three to nothing. 274 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 5: The failed fourth down and then the two turnovers back 275 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 5: to back. That's the that's how it turns into a 276 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 5: from a seventeen all game or twenty four seventeen game 277 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 5: to thirty seven to seventeen and you're sitting there looking 278 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 5: at what went wrong and again those three straight possessions 279 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 5: and not being able to get the stops on the 280 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 5: other side of the ball. 281 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: It was difficult for us. 282 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 8: I think it was thirteen straight games going back to 283 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 8: last year, they had not won the turnover battle, the 284 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 8: turnover ratio, and they did get that done today. In 285 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,119 Speaker 8: a game like this year, right, I mean two possessions 286 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 8: where you know, give them them extras and taking them 287 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 8: away from you. That's that's huge in a game like this. 288 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not good enough. You know, we got a 289 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 5: better job protecting the ball, better call on a fourth 290 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 5: down to get us in a better spot. And you 291 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 5: know we all gonna taken ownership for that. 292 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 8: So now you've got to put this one, this one 293 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 8: to bed and the income the Raiders, I mean, what 294 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 8: are your thoughts at this jonture. 295 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 5: We put ourselves a hole that we can dig out of, 296 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 5: you know. And so again we're not even at the 297 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 5: halfway point of this season yet, play eight, we got 298 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 5: nine and left. There's going to be opportunity for us. 299 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 5: We stick together, we take ownership, ignore the noise, find 300 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: ways to start pulling out wins, and we'll still be 301 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 5: in this thing at the end. 302 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 8: Appreciate your time as always. 303 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 5: Thanks siv Up. 304 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: Next a home game against the two and six Las 305 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, who lost to the undefeated Chiefs twenty seven 306 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: to twenty. Gardner Minshew might have held down to the 307 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: starting quarterback job for another week by throwing a pair 308 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: of touchdown passes with a passer rating of one seventeen 309 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: point nine in the loss to KC. The Bengals Booth 310 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps, proud to 311 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: be the Bengals official HR software provider, by Alta Fiber 312 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: future proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business 313 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: and community to a new level, and by Kettering Health 314 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is 315 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now time for 316 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: the radio guys recap. Let's start with the running game. 317 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: Twenty carries fifty eight yards for the Bengals today two 318 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: point nine yards per carry, one sixty one for Philly 319 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: on the ground. A lot of that came late as 320 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: they put the game away. But can the Bengals be 321 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: the team that we thought that they were going to 322 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: be if they can't get some sort of consistent running 323 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: game going. 324 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 8: No, they have to pose some sort of a threat 325 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 8: in the running game at least has to be respected. 326 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 8: In the last couple of weeks, I don't think you 327 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 8: know either of those defenses of Cleveland Browns or the 328 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 8: Philadelphia was really respected what the Bengals were trying to 329 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 8: get done. Twenty carries for fifty eight yards. They had 330 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 8: thirty nine carries for one sixty one. They threw it 331 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 8: twenty times. Last week, he threw at fourteen. 332 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: This week he. 333 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 8: Throws at twenty. 334 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: Wow, he's the twenty mark. 335 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 8: Sixteen for twenty two hundred thirty six yards, one thirty 336 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 8: two point five quarterback rating. With that one touchdown pass 337 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 8: of forty five yards, I mean the Bengals ran it 338 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 8: twenty times for fifty eight they throw it thirty seven times. 339 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 8: It's just a reverse once two to one run and 340 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 8: once two to one pass the football. And at the 341 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 8: end of the particularly, like you said, in the second 342 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 8: half and the fourth quarter in particular, the Eagles said, 343 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 8: you know, we're gonna Saquon Barkley you to death, and 344 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 8: you're gonna have to stop him. And the Bengals weren't 345 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 8: up to the up to the challenge. He had four 346 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 8: point nine a rush in this football game. He came 347 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 8: in averaging six point one. I mean, they are They 348 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 8: are ridiculous. To me, Dan, It's like you go ten 349 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 8: for thirteen on third down, ten for thirteen, don't pump 350 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 8: the football and lose by twenty points. Turnovers, you know, 351 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 8: they get stuffed on fourth down, that's a turnover. They 352 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 8: have an interception of the funnels, so they went across 353 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 8: the smorgas board, you know, one of each. So in 354 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 8: my mind, they're minus three in a game like this, 355 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 8: that's gonna be coffin nails for the Bengals. 356 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: And a missfield goal near midfield that's like a turnover realistically. 357 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: Very true. 358 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 8: You know, it's a you give them that kind of 359 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 8: field position, you know, the way they can handle things offensively, 360 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 8: it's a that's a that's a solid football team. I 361 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 8: mean they just the Bengals. That's seventeen play drive to 362 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 8: start the game, five straight third down conversions. I'm like, 363 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 8: oh man, this this is encourageble. They just make it 364 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 8: work so hard. I think the biggest thing in the game, 365 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 8: and one of the keys that we talked about, you know, 366 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 8: start the football game, explosives. I mean they had the 367 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 8: Bengals had three chunks or explosives Bengals had no running 368 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 8: plays of ten yards or more. They had three passing 369 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 8: plays of fifteen yards and more twenty eight yard, twenty 370 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 8: yards and more twenty eight yard or twenty four yarder, 371 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 8: forty one yarder Philadelphia. They had five chunk running plays, 372 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 8: five plays rushing players of ten yards of more twelve eleven, 373 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 8: nineteen seventeen, and eleven. They had three seven plays pass 374 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 8: players of fifteen yards and more twenty nine, nineteen seventeen, fifteen, 375 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 8: twenty eight, forty five, twenty three. So they chunked us, 376 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 8: They exploded us to death, and we couldn't meet the 377 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 8: mustard there. 378 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: The Bengals are a passing team, and that's understandable with 379 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, but when t Higgins is out, they're owing 380 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: three this year. They're so reliant on the combination of 381 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Chase and Higgins that when one of those guys isn't 382 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: the field, as we said earlier, they don't have a 383 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: reliable running game that they can go to that offsets 384 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: the loss of one of those great receivers. 385 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think, you know, Gaziki seemed to be 386 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 8: the guy. You know, Te's six five, you know, two 387 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 8: hundred and twenty pounds whatever. Well, Gaziki's he's six six 388 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 8: and two hundred and forty five pounds, eight targets, seven catches, 389 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 8: seventy three yards, heather a twenty four yard long. You know, 390 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 8: he was very very bemoaning the fact that you know, 391 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 8: he turned it over. That was something that was a 392 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 8: tough pill for him to swallow. But yeah, T Higgins 393 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 8: and Jamar Chase, it's like peanut butter and jelly man. 394 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 8: They're good at part that they're better together, and when 395 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 8: they're not together, you know, it's just peanut butter. It's 396 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 8: a different kind of sandwich. It's a little drier. 397 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: So the Bengals defense played well the last couple of weeks, 398 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: but it was against the Giants and the Browns with 399 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and quarterback for most of that game. For 400 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: the Browns. The last three times they played really good offenses. 401 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: The defense has struggled. What is the biggest di in 402 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: your opinion of the Bengals defense. 403 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean lou and Arumo. 404 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 8: The Bengals were had given up the fewest players of 405 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 8: twenty yards and more coming into the football game. You know, 406 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 8: that's that's the big thing in Philadelphia. They went on 407 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 8: multiple play drives. I mean they have a ten play 408 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 8: sixty two yard drive, twelve plays seventy three yard drive. 409 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 8: Then they have like a three play seventy yard drive. 410 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 8: They have a six play seventy yard drive. I mean 411 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 8: they had had both. They pounded they you know, put 412 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 8: you in a meat grinder and pounded you into submission, 413 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 8: played bully ball when they needed to, and then they 414 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 8: would complement it with a chunk. I mean, there are 415 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 8: a lot of their passes, I'd say, if not all, 416 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 8: a high percentage of their explosives in the passing game 417 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 8: was off of play action because they had the line 418 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 8: of scrimmage captured, you know, and they were running the 419 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 8: play action you know, off the counters and pulling linemen. 420 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 8: I mean exactly the same look. So all those linebackers 421 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 8: and safeties have to do is take one step towards 422 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage. Now you're in trouble. You're gonna 423 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 8: have a hard time getting to where you're supposed to get, 424 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 8: and you're coming up a little short and hurts is 425 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 8: good enough where he's gonna gash you on it. So 426 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 8: this this guy, he's a he's a uniquely gifted man. 427 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 8: You know, he can hurt you with his throwing arm, 428 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 8: he can hurt you with his feet. He had thirty 429 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 8: seven yards. He had ten carries, and some of them 430 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 8: were designed. Some of them were into quarterback draws as 431 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 8: long as it was a twelve yarder. But I mean, 432 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 8: the guy squats like six hundred pounds. So when they 433 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 8: do the toush push, it's like having a you know, 434 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 8: an extra alignment in there pushing from behind, never mind 435 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 8: even a running back. And if Saquon's in there pushing 436 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 8: my hand, Saquon squats about the same. These guys squatted 437 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 8: the world for crying out loud. They're ridiculously strong in 438 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 8: their legs and it's an interesting thing to have to 439 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 8: deal with. And the Bengals defense had their hands full, 440 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 8: there's no doubt. 441 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Evan McPherson. Maybe I shouldn't make too 442 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: big of a deal about missing a fifty four yard 443 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: field though that's a long kick, obviously, but he's missed 444 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: three out of his last four field goals after starting 445 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: the year nine for he didn't suddenly become a mediocre kicker. 446 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: He's one of the best in the league. There's something 447 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: about the operation, snap, hold, kick, whatever, that's just not 448 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: working as smoothly as we're accustomed to seeing. 449 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think that there's you know, when 450 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 8: a kicker approaches the football totally confident that it's going 451 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 8: to be exactly where it's supposed to be, when it's 452 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 8: supposed to be there, it's easy peasy, the doesn't even 453 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 8: think about it. But he's had some instances where it's 454 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 8: not so I think right now, you know, I'm not 455 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 8: sure he probably would say, Look, I'm not struggling with 456 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 8: that aspect of it. I am just anticipating the ball 457 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 8: is going to be there and I'm going to go 458 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 8: right through it. I thought the fifty four yard it 459 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 8: looked to me like the operation was pretty good. I mean, 460 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 8: there wasn't any bobb will get the hold down. Now, 461 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 8: I'm not saying I don't know. I'm not saying that 462 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 8: the hold is being held the exact way that he 463 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 8: wants it held, or whatever the case may be. And 464 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 8: sometimes in those long few that's all it takes, is 465 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 8: a little thing like that. But man, he had plenty 466 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 8: of height and plenty of distance on that bad boy. 467 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 8: He just kind of pulled it a little bit and 468 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 8: you know, maybe started out a little bit more of 469 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 8: the right, but he's missed more field goals I think 470 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 8: to the right than to the left. You know, he's 471 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 8: pushed them. He doesn't like to you know, he doesn't 472 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 8: like cooking the football, and he's hooked it a little 473 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 8: bit too many times this year. I think probably his 474 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 8: liking for sure. So yeah, it's just when it rains, 475 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 8: it poors. 476 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: I guess eight games done, nine to go. Joe Burrow 477 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: in his postgame news conference said, well, to make the playoffs, 478 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 1: we probably need to win ten games. That would mean 479 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: going seven and two the rest of the way. Have 480 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: we seen enough when the Bengals have had their good 481 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: moments to think that, Okay, I can see a scenario 482 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: where they go seven and two. 483 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 8: As Force greg said, Paul Brown said it early on 484 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 8: in my career. Force Gregg reiterated it. You are what 485 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 8: your record says you are. Joe Burrow in the postgame said, 486 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 8: we're not very right now, and it's hard to argue 487 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 8: with you know, if you're a three and five football team, 488 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 8: you are what your record says you are, and you're 489 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 8: not very good right now. You're not good enough. Shoot, 490 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 8: I got to beat Las Vegas here and get that 491 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 8: first home when I cannot believe, cannot believe they're all 492 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 8: for a pay Corps. It's like, and we knew that 493 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 8: that New England game was going to be oh and 494 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 8: everybody's still grinding, gritting their teeth over that one. But 495 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 8: four games lost at pay Corps Stadium, and you know, 496 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 8: right after that, you got to go to Baltimore on 497 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 8: Thursday night and beat the Ravens and it's a division battle, 498 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 8: and uh, they're gonna they're gonna have, you know, a 499 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 8: little bit of dirt in their eye. So it's difficult 500 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 8: to say the least, but they have put themselves behind 501 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 8: the eight ball. They were crawling out of a hole. 502 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 8: Then they fell back in and the hole got a 503 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 8: little deeper. Instead of being five hundred, you're three and five, 504 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 8: eight games in, four and four eight games in. It's like, okay, 505 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 8: well there's not that many left, but we're hanging in there. 506 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 8: But now you have to win two before you lose 507 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 8: another football game, just to get back, even just to 508 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 8: get your head and your eyeballs above the hole above 509 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 8: the ground line. Tush lead men. 510 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: Two losses at home where they haven't punted. 511 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 8: Ridiculous, ridiculous, it's crazy, it is. I mean, the more 512 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 8: games you watch, I mean ten of thirteen on third down, 513 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 8: don't punt once and lose the football game by twenty 514 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 8: My goodness, I just a plus B an equal C 515 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 8: to me, I don't know what. 516 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: It equals, and I ain't see unfortunately equals L. 517 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 8: Capital L, no question underlying a few times. 518 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: The Bengals are three and one on the road but 519 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: zero and four at home. They open as an eight 520 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: and a half point favorite against the Raiders for next 521 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: Sunday's game. Finally, it's time for this week's fun fat segment, 522 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: and it might be my favorite one so far this year. 523 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts in safety Day. Jon Anthony 524 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: from Richmond, Virginia, the capital city in that state. What 525 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: does a kid do for fun growing up in Richmond, Virginia. 526 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 6: Well, in my generation, we was outside and we used 527 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 6: to play basketball, outside, football, hide and go seek. 528 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: So we used to just hang out around the way 529 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: and just have a good time. 530 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: So Dejhon, your Instagram account begins with rip Nana and 531 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: rip mama. You lost your mom when you're in fifth grade, 532 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: you lost your grandmother when you're in college. Can you 533 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: describe the impact those two women had on your life. 534 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like my mom, she just was a soldier. 535 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 6: Like she was sick for like three years and she 536 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 6: just kept fighting and was always there, came to all 537 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 6: my games and my dad was incocelerated, so she was 538 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 6: really playing a big role. I had two other brothers 539 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 6: and his sister, and she was just doing everything she could. 540 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 6: And then on the back and like we always live 541 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 6: with our grandmother, her mama to my grandma, and she 542 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 6: was just like you know, a guyfaenir and woman and 543 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 6: she just put everybody else before her. So like, uh, 544 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 6: they they raised me. And the reason why, like I 545 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 6: have the strength and to keep going every single day. 546 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 6: So I just loved him to death and I just 547 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 6: want to keep making them proud. 548 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: Your college football career began at Shepherd University, which is 549 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: a Division two school in West Virginia. It's about a 550 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: three hour drive from Richmond. How did you wind up there? 551 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 6: So? I had the transfer high schools my senior year 552 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 6: and that's why I couldn't. Uh, that's why I kind 553 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 6: of lost a lot of interest because I missed the 554 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 6: first five games my high school career. Then I ended 555 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 6: up catching like seven picks that year. Last again, I 556 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 6: called four paces in one game and I thought I 557 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 6: was gonna blow up, but I didn't, And it was 558 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 6: a It was coach Sam Daniels. She was a Shepherd coach. 559 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 6: He was down at my school and he came and 560 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 6: touch to me. He was like, we want to bring 561 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 6: you on a visit, and I went on to visit 562 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 6: up there. I went on a visit to Virginia State 563 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 6: and Shepherd, and I was like, I ain't want to 564 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 6: stay close to home, so I picked Sheppard University. 565 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: The quarterback your freshman year was Tyson Bagent, who started 566 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: four games for the Chicago Bears last year and did 567 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: really well. Did you have any inkling that you might 568 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: be playing with a future pro at Shepherd U. 569 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 6: I mean yeah, you could kind of see. Like we 570 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 6: had a lot of D one bouncebacks too, and Shepard. 571 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 6: I mean Tyson, he was like the Gatoray Player of 572 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 6: the Year in high school like two years in a row. 573 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 6: So it was like we knew he only wanted to 574 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 6: stay at Shepherd stay because he wanted to be at home, 575 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 6: but like he had a lot of offers. 576 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: So I mean, like we always knew he was going 577 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: to be great. 578 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 6: You just don't know how far somebody can go, because 579 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 6: sometimes it's not just you, it's like God might have 580 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 6: another plan for you. But we knew he was going 581 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 6: to be great, and he showed that even when we 582 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 6: was young, like first getting out there, all of us 583 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 6: did kind of me and Tyson, a couple other teammates 584 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 6: that could have kept going just didn't have the opportunities 585 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 6: that we did. 586 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: We're visiting with Dejon Anthony. I read an interview where 587 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: you said that when you were at Shepherd, your grandmother 588 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: treated it like you were playing at Alabama. 589 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, my grandma, she was just one of the biggest 590 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 6: supporters I ever had in my life. My whole family 591 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 6: is honestly, like if anybody like pay attention, like I 592 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 6: didn't have probably twenty people at every game, like immediate family, 593 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 6: dry party and hunted. Some people like my family just 594 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 6: such like they supported me so much. And my grandma 595 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 6: that was just like like that was like my best friend. 596 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 6: Like everything I did was with her. I told her everything, 597 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 6: like everybody know, I was kind of her favorite, and 598 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 6: like she used to get on that road every Saturday 599 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 6: morning and come straight up to my d two games 600 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 6: with her jersey on custom shirts Jordan's. 601 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: And just have a good time. 602 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 6: So uh, she just loved She just loved to see 603 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: me getting out of you know, getting out of out 604 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 6: of where where we grew up at, like just doing 605 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 6: something that a lot of family members didn't do. A 606 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 6: lot of my family didn't go to college. I'm the 607 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 6: first one to graduate college, first one to play D 608 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 6: one football college football period. So uh, I think that 609 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 6: was just a blessing for her, just to see me away. 610 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: Your second year, Shepherd was wiped out due to COVID 611 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: and you walked on at Liberty. After that, it sounds 612 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: like it didn't take very long for you to earn 613 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: a scholarship. 614 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 6: So in January, you know, it's just waits and like conditioning, 615 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 6: it's just a winter conditioning. 616 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: And then March, you know, we started springball. Uh, first 617 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: day I was coach. 618 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 6: They tried to put me on scholarship the first day, 619 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 6: but I didn't have my transcripts, official transcripts on file, 620 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 6: so we had to get them from Shepherd. So uh, 621 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 6: I was a walk on, but I started one on ones, 622 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 6: Like I jumped out there a corner first for one 623 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 6: ones and had good rest, and Coach Freeze called the 624 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 6: last one. He always called two people out, and he 625 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 6: called me and another person out and I we just 626 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 6: just having fun. Caught an interception that first day, So 627 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 6: it was a good It was a good experience, Nick, 628 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 6: and I just ran with it after that. 629 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: While you were at Liberty, your grandmother was diagnosed with cancer, 630 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: and every day after practice you would drive ninety minutes 631 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: to spend time with her. There's not a lot of 632 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: free time in the college student athlete experience. Why was 633 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: it so important for you to do that every day? 634 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 6: Just like I said earlier, that was my best friend 635 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 6: and she had stage four cancer September. 636 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: It's January. You don't know what it is gonna be. 637 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 6: So I go to practice early morning, go to my classes. 638 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 6: I'm probably getting done at like three o'clock, get on 639 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 6: the road through thirty, gets on the eat, get on 640 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 6: the road, get there around like five, beat traffic and 641 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 6: chill with her to probably like two three in the morning, 642 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 6: get back on the road, go write to practice. So 643 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 6: it was just like like it won't even know sacrifice 644 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 6: or nothing. That's something that's my grandma, Like that's the 645 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 6: person that raised me. So like I just wanted to 646 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 6: make sure I was there whenever the moment didn't happen, 647 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 6: and knew it was coming. 648 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: She had stomach cancer. 649 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 6: It's for you to be there all the way to 650 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 6: March from September with stage for a stomach cancer. All 651 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 6: she was trying to do was just come to my 652 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 6: spring game. So that's why she kept holding on. She 653 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 6: just kept saying she wanted to see me play one 654 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 6: time in D one. So uh yeah, I just kept 655 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 6: driving back and forth. 656 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: For you spent your final year of college football playing 657 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: at all MESS. When you entered the transfer portal, did 658 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: you finally get that experience of what it was like 659 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: to be recruited. 660 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was my first time being recruited. Or when 661 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 6: I hit the transfer portal, I kind of blew up. 662 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 6: I kind of almost had like every SEC school, every 663 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 6: ACC school I was getting called. I had like four 664 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 6: visits set up. The first hour I was in the 665 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 6: trans supporter schools was calling me left and right, calling 666 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 6: my old coaches, like my coach that's at SMU, Coach Huntley, 667 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 6: the one that got me the liberty. He called me 668 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 6: like three times that day and it was just like 669 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 6: I just got out the phone, like five different schools 670 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 6: about you. 671 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: So it was like that was it was a really good. 672 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 6: Feeling, just you know, finally getting the credit and the flowers. 673 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 6: But it's just all God timing and he know when 674 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 6: it's right for you and when it's not. 675 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: All Miss had a great year and show did you? 676 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: The team went eleven and two and won the Peach Bowl. 677 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: You had an interception in that game. What was the 678 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: best part of your year at all? 679 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: Miss? 680 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 6: I'd say the LSU win, the big hit in LSU 681 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 6: and I had the game winn PBu. We was down 682 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 6: people don't know, like we was down by ten, well 683 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 6: like three minutes left to the Heisman quarterback Wanner to 684 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 6: you know, both of those top receivers that went top 685 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 6: fifteen this year, like they had a explosive offense and 686 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 6: being down by team with three minutes left, that that 687 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 6: that and for us to win that game, that's that's 688 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 6: brotherhood right there. That's the termination. That's like keeping your 689 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 6: foot on the guys, that's trusting everybody. So right then 690 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 6: I knew, like, man, this team's special. And we broke 691 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 6: a record. They never won eleven games in Old Miss history. 692 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 6: They never had eleven win season. So uh, that was 693 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 6: just a really good experience. Just you know the LSU game. 694 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 6: Man the teen they rushed the car, they rushed the 695 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 6: field after like everybody rushed the field. I'm laying on 696 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 6: the ground like wow, it just won, and everybody running 697 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 6: over me. So I feel like that was probably my 698 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 6: my favorite experience there. And then definitely the bowl game 699 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 6: cause they had everybody had pans they beating us, and 700 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 6: we went out there and beat like beat them, beat 'em. 701 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 6: And I had like seventy family members there, so it 702 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 6: was like this my last game of college. 703 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 2: I went crazy. It had like three PPU's a pick. 704 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 6: So both of those games was like you know, and 705 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 6: then the old the rival game, the egg Bow versus 706 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 6: Mississippi State. I had fifteen tackles that game, and that's 707 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 6: a really lit game for you know, all old miss 708 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 6: alumnis and Mississippi State guys. 709 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: You reference the big hit, I need to follow up. 710 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: You made a jarring hit on Jaden Daniels in that 711 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: LSU game that forced to fumble. And if somebody types 712 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: your name into a Google search and says, stay Jon 713 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: Anthony hit, that is the first thing that's going to 714 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: pop up. What was it like to have that that 715 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: blow up moment? 716 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 6: I mean it just you know, like you said, man, 717 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 6: you put in all the work in the off season 718 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 6: and for it to finally happen, like because I kind 719 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 6: of was trending a lot like the first game I 720 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 6: called a pick at Old Miss. Second game, I was 721 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 6: PFF top three safeties. I had like eight argut is 722 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 6: at nickel and strong safety and no catches. Played Georgia Tech. 723 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 6: I had a really good game. Then we played Bama 724 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 6: then LSU, so it was like I was blowing up. 725 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 6: And then like after that, I really like like the 726 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 6: hit was the viral thing. But I feel like the 727 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 6: game winning PBu like that's what like kind of did 728 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 6: it for me because I hit him twice like that 729 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 6: that game. One got caught for a flag, then one 730 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 6: and then and then just the PBu man like at 731 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 6: the end, like when all the like stress and tension 732 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 6: just left your body and we like there's no flags, 733 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 6: the game is over. So uh it just felt good, man, 734 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 6: It's just a blessing. 735 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm draft ed this year. You had a big party 736 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: with friends and family, more than one hundred people looking on. 737 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: It was so loud and festive, you couldn't hear Zach 738 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: Taylor when he called you, correct. 739 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I couldn't. I didn't know what he was saying, 740 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 6: so I knew the right answer was just to say yes, sir. 741 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 6: So I just kept saying yes sir because I didn't 742 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 6: want to I didn't want to say like something, and 743 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 6: he was like, what is he talking about? Like because 744 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 6: I couldn't hear what he was saying. So I just 745 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 6: was like, yes, sir, Yes sir. 746 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 1: So yeah, yes sir, followed by I love your coach 747 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: at the end. 748 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's a life changing thing for you 749 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 2: to be. 750 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 6: You know a lot of people ain't think I could 751 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 6: get here from being Division two, So you know, just 752 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 6: coming from division two and working your way up the ladder. 753 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: Like it's not easy. 754 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 6: So that day, you know, I was projected to go 755 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 6: way earlier than that, but I got a couple of 756 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 6: trouble incidents, of which I said before. So you know, 757 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 6: just waiting around all day, you see people that you 758 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 6: feel like not better than you, and that car. When 759 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 6: you get that car, it's like how I said with 760 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 6: the LSU game, it's like it's just relief, Like all 761 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 6: the tension, anxiety just go out the window. 762 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: A few wild card topics now with Dejon Anthony to 763 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: wrap things up. Did you treat yourself to anything after 764 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: you signed your first professional contract? 765 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 2: I just gotta chain. That's represent in my grandma. 766 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 6: They said grandma baby, and then they got Nanna on it, 767 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 6: and then it got the day she was born, the 768 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 6: day she died, and the picture of me and her 769 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 6: on the back. 770 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: That's really it. The rest. I've just been trying to 771 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 2: save up, you know, just keep investing in stuff like that. 772 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure she would be very proud of that. Other 773 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: than sports, what are you good at? 774 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 6: I'm good at I'm good at. I feel like I'm 775 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,479 Speaker 6: good at a lot of things, Like I played the game. 776 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 6: I'm a competitive person, like I like doing a lot 777 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 6: of stuff. But I definitely say the game. 778 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. 779 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 6: I'm kind of good like I like fashion, so like 780 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 6: I'm good at dressing and stuff, you know, trying to 781 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 6: put on. 782 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 2: I could pick out office. I could be a stylist 783 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 2: for people. 784 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: I might need to take you up on that, all right. 785 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: Final fun fact, this one's kind of deep. If you 786 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: could meet anybody in history, living or deceased, who would 787 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: that person be? 788 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 6: I definitely want to say Kobe, but I probably I 789 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 6: might say, like, you know, Nipsey Hustle or cause you know, 790 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 6: just the solid type of guy he is and just 791 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 6: take care of everybody. And you know he's always thinking big, 792 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 6: thinking about what's next and not getting comfortable, like you know, 793 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 6: that's what he preached. So like I say Nipsy and 794 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 6: then uh probably like right now that's living probably a 795 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 6: little baby the rapper just all the same thing as Nipsey, 796 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 6: Like just a solid dude, great man, always take care 797 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 6: of everybody. You'll never know if anything wrong with him. 798 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 6: So those are the type of people I look up to, 799 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 6: and I try to be like that. Just that's why 800 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 6: I do this. So I can make sure everybody in 801 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 6: my family don't have the struggle and stuff like that 802 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 6: and just change you know, family last name forever, like 803 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 6: like I'm setting the standard, like it's not just graduate 804 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 6: high school no more, it's you're going to college. You're 805 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 6: going to do this, like, so you know those type 806 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 6: of people I really like to meet one day. Well, Nipsey, 807 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 6: rest in peace with a little baby. 808 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: For so this has been outstanding. I really appreciate your time. 809 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: You're very easy to root for. 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