1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Your holster is way more important than you think it is. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: It's just way more important than you think it is. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: What look, and I get that. The holsters not the 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: sexy part of carrying firearms. All right, You want to 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: talk about your weapon and your ammunition. You want to 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: talk about your safety training. You want to talk about 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: how you did at the range. Oh, look at my groups. 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: I was doing these failure drills today, and all that 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: stuff is really important. I mean, really really important. I'm 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: not discounting that, but I've known so many people who 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: do all those things. They take all the necessary steps, 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: and then they carry with a holster they bought from 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: a big box hunting store that was made a thousand 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: at a time. Please don't put your life in one 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: of those holsters. You need to trust Northwest Retention Systems 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: because it's all custom made gear. It's the only thing 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: I carry around NW Retention dot Com. That's NW Retention 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: dot Com used to promo co Jesse gets you ten 19 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: percent off. This is a Jesse Kelly show. Do you 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: believe in monsters? Do you think about it? Are you 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: sure you don't? Have you stopped believing in him since 22 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: you were a kid, or do you just believe in 23 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: different ones. Now, nineteen fifty nine, Russia, a group of hikers, 24 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: ten of them, took off towards the Ural Mountains. It's 25 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: a mountain range there, you don't have to know about it. 26 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: And they had a goal, and that goal was to 27 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: climb Mount o' turton. Now I should explain something about 28 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: these ten hikers before we go any further. They were 29 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: all young, in their early twenties. They were all extremely fit, 30 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: They were all extremely experienced. And when I say extremely experienced, 31 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: I think I need to explain something. They were all 32 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Grade two hikers and if they completed this mission, that 33 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: meant they would become Grade three hikers, which is the 34 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: highest certification you can get. Now I can see your 35 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: eyes rolling into the back of your head. I don't 36 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: know what any of that means. Here's what it means. 37 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: What it means is you have proven you have massive 38 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: amounts of experience doing what you do. You didn't just 39 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: go on a backpack that morning and start walking with 40 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: a walking stick. These are people who would have to 41 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: have proven they know their way around mountains, they know 42 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: their way around hills, they know their way around rocks, avalanches, 43 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: steep slopes storms. These are experienced people, most likely people 44 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: that grew up doing this in that mountainous area. I 45 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: used to live in Montana for quite a while. We 46 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: moved there till I was or when I was ten. 47 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: We moved there. I ended up graduating high school from there, 48 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: and we would go up to we go up skiing 49 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: and there would be avalanche risks and things like that 50 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: along the ski slopes because it's a mountain, that's just 51 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: the way it is. Well, they had certifications for all 52 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: these different instructors in mountain type people up there, and 53 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: I will just tell you, having spent some time with 54 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: these people, it takes a long time to get these certifications. 55 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: These people knew what was what is going to be 56 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: important to our story. So just know this. This is 57 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: not a group of ten hikers that took off and 58 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: I think we're just gonna walk today. No, they knew 59 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: exactly what they were doing. They knew how to do it. 60 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: They knew how to face adversity. They knew how to 61 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: pack in their food that they needed. They knew how 62 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: to pack in their tents, they knew how to pack 63 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: in their skis. Because you spent a lot of your 64 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: time on cross country skis when you're hiking through mountains 65 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: like that. Again, not a skill you just step into 66 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: and do one day, long time, long time of experience 67 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: it takes to get to be that good. And because 68 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: they wanted their Grade three certification, they had a really cool, 69 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: albeit a little bit harrowing mission to climb Mount Old Turton. Again, 70 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: experience smart people, so they got with their friends beforehand 71 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: and said, hey, we're taken off here. It's the end 72 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: of January. If we're not back by mid February, something 73 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: went wrong, Paul. And that is again, it sounds like 74 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: such a simple thing, but that is something the most 75 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: experienced people when it comes to mountains, will do over 76 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: and over and over again. Like the people I told 77 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: you about on the side of the ski hill, they 78 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: wear locators in case they do get caught in an 79 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: avalanche and so they can be found before they suffocate 80 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: to death under the snow. People check in always. I 81 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: used to go hunting in the mountains by or with 82 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: a group of guys. I'll tell you that story later, 83 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: but you would check in no matter what it was 84 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: just part of what you did. You would make sure 85 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: you told a friend or two we are going here. 86 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna be located approximately here. If we're not back 87 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: at this time, send help. That is something you learn 88 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: to do when you live in and around the wilderness. 89 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: And so they did it again, experienced, experienced, and ten 90 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: of them take off. Now, by the grace of God, 91 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: one of them ends up having some severe health problems. 92 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: He had had heart problems before. His knees were bothering 93 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: him really. Soon after they took off, he turned around, 94 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: went back. He was the lucky one. The other nine 95 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: took off into the mountains. And you get to a 96 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 1: point again when you were experienced that you learn, well, 97 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: wait a minute, we're going to be coming back through 98 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: here at this spot on our way back, why don't 99 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: we unload some of this food so I don't have 100 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: to carry all of it all the way, bury it 101 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: right here or stash it right there, depending on just 102 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: how remote it is. I'll tell you we used to 103 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: bury our food in these big five gallons sealable drums 104 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: in the ground. We dig big holes in the ground 105 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: and bury him. Understand whatever, Fine them, and then we 106 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: go back during elk season. They bury their food and 107 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: they take off, and you can look all this up 108 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: after this, but there are pictures of this, There are 109 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: diaries of this. We have their notes, we have their 110 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: pictures of them on skis. We can see their faces. 111 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: The leader of the group, his name was Igor dat Lav, 112 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: and Igorgiatlav makes his way with his group into dat 113 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: Lav Pass, which was obviously not called dat Lav Pass 114 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: at the time. You'll figure out why here. In just 115 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: a moment, they begin their climb and a horrible white 116 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: out sleet blizzard hits. Now, having grown up in that area, 117 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: maybe you didn't. It's scary. I will tell you that. 118 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: It is scary. It is like something out of the 119 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: movies when you get in some of those white out 120 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: conditions in the mountains, because you just cannot see and 121 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: you cannot land navigate. And this is pre GPS times, 122 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: if your GPS would even function, you can't see. I've 123 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: been in a sandstorm like that in Iraq before and 124 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: it was horrifying. You just your hand barely in front 125 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: of your face. You can't see. So they lost their 126 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: way a little bit, not the end of the world, 127 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: ended up drifting a mile west. Of course, we know 128 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: all this again from their diaries. A little lost, drifted 129 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: a mile west, decided that they were just going to 130 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: camp out there on a mountain as slope for the night. Again, 131 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: not anything that would be unfamiliar to experienced hikers like this. 132 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: People camp out on mountain slopes all the time. It's 133 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: good practice. You have to learn how to do it. Again, 134 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: it's not for everybody. You and I think about camping 135 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: is throwing a tent on the flat ground by the lake. 136 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: This is a little bit more difficult. However, something people 137 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: like this do when our conditions. Lay out their tents, 138 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: which we know they did, get a little twisted around, 139 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: which we know they did, but all's good. Tents are 140 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: set up, crawl into bed that night, which we know 141 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: they did. In always fine because they'll ride out a 142 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: blizzard in a tent, right Except none of them were 143 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: alive the next day, and none of them were in 144 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: their tents the next day either. February twentieth rolls around. 145 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: Keep in mind this is a few weeks after. People 146 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: are a little concerned. Remember these were experienced hikers and said, hey, 147 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: if we don't show back up here, send a rescue 148 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: team please. They did send a rescue team. Rescue team 149 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: makes its way into the mountains. Now it would take 150 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of time because remember they veered off course. 151 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: But an experienced rescu team would realize this. So they 152 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: do a little hunting around on the direction they thought 153 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: they were going to go, and eventually they think they 154 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: see it up ahead. They think they see the tents there. 155 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they're a little disheveled, but okay, we'll make 156 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: our way over there. And they start making their way 157 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: towards the tents. The rescue team starts to approach these 158 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: tents and this is this looks weird. And they get 159 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: to the tents and the tents are empty, and the 160 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: tents have been cut open from the inside. Hang on 161 00:10:49,559 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: truth attitude, Jesse Kelly. They find the tents and the 162 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: tents have been cut open from the inside. Why were 163 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: the tents cut open from the inside? There were still 164 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: the doors on the tents. And they start looking around, 165 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: and what do they see. While there were nine people 166 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,479 Speaker 1: in this group, there were also nine sets of footprints 167 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: leaving the area. What's weird is these experienced hikers, these 168 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: people who knew all about what they were doing. They 169 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: were all barefoot, or all at least in their socked feet, 170 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: and virtually all of their gear was still in the 171 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: tents that they cut open. Strange, right, but still not 172 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: totally unexplainable. What if a band of robbers started shooting 173 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: at them? I mean, who knows. I mean, you could 174 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: at least come up with something so far. Okay, all right, Oh, 175 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: don't worry it. It gets much stranger. Well, there's a 176 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: line of trees about a mile away from this tent sign. 177 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: They see plenty of shoeprints or footprints heading that way. 178 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: They take off that way, and what do they find. Well, 179 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: they find two guys named Yuri. I'm not going to 180 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: even attempt to pronounce these Russian last names. One starts 181 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: with a K, and the other one starts with I 182 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: forget no D. One starts with the K. They don't 183 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: start with the D. They find these two guys. Rights 184 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: as you go into the trees, these guys are dead rosen, 185 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: solid on the ground. Keep in mind we're talking twenty 186 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: below zero here, and they're in their underwear and nothing 187 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: else a mile away from the tent side. Oh did 188 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: I mention? They have rips and tears in the palms 189 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: of their hands, as if they were trying to climb trees. 190 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: And so the investigators began looking at the cedars around them. 191 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: Fifteen feet off the ground. There were broken branches on 192 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: the cedar trees around them, as if these men were 193 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: trying to climb to escape something. They kept looking because 194 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: that's two down. We got seven more to go, and 195 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: they found three more a little ways further into the trees. 196 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: Now they thought all all five five of these people 197 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: died of hypothermia. That's what they thought. But that didn't 198 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: explain the fact that one of the next three they 199 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: found was kind of brown, not just purple, and he 200 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: had a gray liquid coming out of his mouth. One 201 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: of the next three they found had head injuries that 202 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: looked like he fell and hit his head repeatedly. Another 203 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: one of the next three they found had a baton 204 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: shaped bruise on her side. Well, that's all extremely weird, 205 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: is it not. Again, all of them in their underwear. 206 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: Well that's five down. There were nine total, and they 207 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: couldn't find the other four. Frustrating, the search would continue, 208 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: But okay, that was weird enough. Only two months later 209 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: they did find the other four. Further into those woods, 210 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: there was a seventy five I believe it was seventy 211 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: five feet It was a ravine seventy five. I'm sorry. 212 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: It was a ravine, and they found the four at 213 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: the bottom of this ravine. Only these four didn't die 214 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: of hypothermia. These four died of something nobody can explain. 215 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: The first one, Nikolai was his name. He suffered significant 216 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: skull damage. Two of the others had huge, significant chest wounds, 217 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: only not wounds like an axe, not skull damage like 218 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: an axe wounds and I quote, consistent with a high 219 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: speed car crash. You think I'm done, I'm not done yet. 220 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: One of them with the terrible wounds, and only one 221 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: her eyes were missing and her tongue was missing, and 222 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: her lips were missing. Remember we were looking for four more. 223 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: This part gets just as weird. That was three of 224 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: the four with the skull fractures and the chest caving 225 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: in and the missing eyes and the missing tongue. They 226 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: found the fourth guy right down there with them, and 227 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: he was fine. He had died of hypothermia, no major 228 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: wounds like the other four. As you can imagine, questions 229 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: were raised, But keep in mind where and when we are. 230 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: This is nineteen fifty nine in Russia. Russia only adding 231 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: to the mystery of everything, and only adding to the 232 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: confusion that remains to this day, gave some weird incident 233 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: about it being an avalanche or something and sealed the 234 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: case up and would not let anybody else in there 235 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: to investigate. Now, obviously we know it wasn't an avalanche. 236 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: An avalanche would explain virtually none of what we see, 237 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: none of what we see. It just wouldn't. But Russia 238 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: is what Russia is. In fact, they actually opened an 239 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: investigation into this again last year. Chris, did you know 240 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: that last year? Now? Do you believe in monsters? There 241 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: is something in the human psyche? You have it, I 242 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: have it, We all have it that we like to 243 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: explain everything dangerous around us. We like to put our 244 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: arms around it. We like to explain it. I just 245 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: don't want any mystery to it. And as long as 246 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: there's no mystery to it, it doesn't freak us out. 247 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: How many Americans die every year from heart disease. How 248 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: many Americans die every single year from cancer, car accident, 249 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: something to I mean, thousands or tens of thousands. That's 250 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: just what happens. And yet we don't demand round the 251 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: clock news coverage of every one of them. We don't 252 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: sit around demanding government action for every single one of them. 253 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: Do we when's the last time you demanded government lock 254 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: everybody down until we figure out heart disease. We're gonna 255 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: lock everybody down until we figure out car accidents. As 256 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: I said yesterday, you could eliminate car accidents tomorrow. Tomorrow, 257 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: the United States government could eliminate car accidents. No more 258 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: vehicles a lot on the road. But you don't, and 259 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: you don't demand that, And why don't you demand that 260 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: the same reason I don't Because I can explain it. 261 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I can maybe try to avoid it. 262 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: And more than any of that, I convinced myself it 263 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: can't happen to me by accident. Now, if I die 264 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: of heart disease, it's gonna be because I ate three 265 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: cheeseburgers a day. We let this whole coronavirus thing cause 266 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: us to do things we would never have done a 267 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: month ago, because it's a monster, and monsters scare us. 268 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: And that incident I just described is going to creep 269 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: you out and it's gonna haunt your dreams tonight. Not 270 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: because of hikers dying, hikers die all the time, but 271 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: because you don't want to think about that the next 272 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: time you pitch your tent with your family by the lake. 273 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is simply this, there are 274 00:20:26,680 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: monsters everywhere the Jesse Kelly Show. The Jesse Kelly Show 275 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: staff is now a buzz trying to figure out this mystery. 276 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: I did forget to tell you one little tidbit. Two 277 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: of the people found in the bottom of the ravine 278 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: had radiation on their clothes. Chris and Mitchell think they 279 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: know what happened. Chris, Please, what tell me what you 280 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: think happened? Again, Chris says the military. Now could you specify? 281 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: What do you mean? What do you think the military did? 282 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: A group of commandos went down there. You think they 283 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: dropped a nuclear bomb. I'm adam, what are you talking about? 284 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: But raising your hands. It's not an explanation, Chris, Okay, 285 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: So you don't know what happened. That's the problem. Nothing 286 00:21:51,760 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: explains everything, does it? Nothing does? Nothing does what a 287 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: radioactive super bear? You know? Honestly, this is one of 288 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: those incidents that prompts people to talk about Bigfoot, especially 289 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: with the fifteen foot high branches being broken off. People 290 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: talk about Bigfoot, but I dismissed that, not because I 291 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: don't believe in Bigfoot. Even though I really don't believe 292 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: in Bigfoot. I dismissed that because don't tell me there's 293 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: a bigfoot out there, and he didn't leave tracks along 294 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: with the other nine people leaving tracks. Bigfoot with the 295 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: left tracks. A grizzly bear leaves tracks. Let's assume it's 296 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: a wild animal. Even if it's not, it's a it's 297 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, even if it's not quite that wild, it's 298 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: leaving tracks in the snow. What Chris could have been drugged? 299 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: These were not people on drugs. These were not people 300 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: on drugs. Now, these are small or not small. These 301 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: are young, healthy, fit people who do dangerous fit things. 302 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: These people are not These people are not on drugs. 303 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: They're not on drugs. Maybe the weirdest part of it, honestly, 304 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: the climbing of the tree is probably the weirdest part 305 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: for me. Two guys in twenty below zero in their 306 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: underwear trying to climb a tree to escape escape something. 307 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: That might be the weirdest part. That's weirder than the 308 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: chick having her eyes getting eaten out. No, you say 309 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: the eyes parts the weirdest. I say it's not, because 310 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: that birds could do that and would do that. Okay, 311 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: you're right, it is weird that she was the only 312 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: one that had Okay, never mind, crap. See, anytime I 313 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: come up with an explanation, it gets shot down. The 314 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: guys in their underwear twenty below zero trying to climb 315 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: a tree. That's the part that gets me, because that's fear. 316 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that is a fear that few people have 317 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: ever felt before when you're doing something so irrationally insane. 318 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: I mean, what are you going to do, even in 319 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: your underwear twenty below zero, even if you climb the tree, 320 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna die within ten minutes, twenty minutes of hypothermia 321 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: at those temperatures in your underwear. You just are That's 322 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: the way it is. But you're so scared of something. 323 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: And get this, Chris, they cut their way out of 324 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: the tent. Let's just agree, all right, since we can't 325 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: agree on anything else. Since we obviously can't agree on 326 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: anything else yet, maybe we'll come up with something during 327 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: the show. Let's just agree something scared them out of 328 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: the tent. Right, They cut their way out the only 329 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: way you would cut but the entrances, Right, I guess 330 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: you would have a quick way to cut. Cutting your 331 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: way out would be quicker than the entrance, most likely 332 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: because tents like that, just to explain to you the 333 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: boring logistics of it, would have at least A mountain 334 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: tent like that would have at least I would guess 335 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: two different zippers in the front. You would have like 336 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: a zipper screen and then a zipper on the outside. 337 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: So if you slept with the blade right beside you, 338 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: the fastest thing would probably be to reach up slice 339 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: your way out. Okay, why leave the tent though? And 340 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: why would You're an experience again, keep in mind experienced hikers, 341 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: why leave the tent in your underwear, which you know 342 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: is a death sentence? You are scared to death? Explain that? 343 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: Keep coming back to military who poked out the chick's eyes? 344 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: Why would the military do that? These are Russians. Russians 345 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: might do that to someone else. I'm not gonna do 346 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 1: that to them. Well, I take that back. They would 347 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: do terrible things to their own people. But I'm lost. 348 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean, people have relatively sane people have read about 349 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: this incident. If you want to look it up yourself, 350 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. It's called the Dat Love Past 351 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: incident d y A. T. L ov It makes it 352 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: makes the story I just told you so much better 353 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: because you get the diaries. You can read them their diaries, 354 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: their journals. You can see pictures of them, and they're 355 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: just young, healthy I mean, I don't want to call 356 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: them kids because it makes me sound old, but they're 357 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: just young, healthy adults, smiling, laughing. You can see a 358 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: picture of them in a line on their cross country skis, 359 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: in their winter gear, the last picture they that was 360 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: taken of them as they took off on their journey. 361 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: It's just it makes it creepier when you can put 362 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: a face to it and you see them hugging and 363 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: laughing and smiling. And people have said aliens, and normally 364 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: I laugh at the alien people. Remember that one great 365 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: caller we had, Chris. We gotta get her to call 366 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: back in, who swore straight faced that she had been 367 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: abducted by aliens. And she explained and I asked her 368 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: to break it down all the probing and everything else, 369 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: and what they looked like, and I mean you would, 370 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: You're probably not very shocked to realize that most of 371 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: them look just like they look in the movies. She 372 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: came up with that. But anyway, so there, how's that 373 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: for forty five minutes of being done with coronavirus stuff? 374 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that freaking reminds me I have more. I 375 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: feel like I've had this saga of home maintenance stuff. No, no, listen, listen. 376 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: I now have a busted piece of tile that I 377 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: have to repair or replace. Don't just throw your hands 378 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: up like it's nothing. I don't have any idea how 379 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: to replace a busted piece of tile? Can I repair it? Chris, 380 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: you can repair it? No? Hold on, let me refrain this. 381 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: I know you can repair it. Idiot? Can I repair it? Oh? 382 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: Did I tell you what happened? I forgot to tell you? 383 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: From all right, here's what happened. Now. There's a bit 384 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: of a backstory to this. Everybody knows whenever you buy 385 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: the old lady a gift of some kind, especially once 386 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: you've been married for a while, everybody knows that you 387 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: you might get hecked for it right off the bat 388 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: if it sucks, and that's just life. You're a dude, 389 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: don't be a chick about it. If she laughs in 390 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: your face, it's really not the end of the world. 391 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: Fellas you young guys you'll learn to just brush all 392 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: that stuff off as you go along. It's not the 393 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: end of the world. I'm a bad gift giver. I've 394 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: blown it a thousand times. However, women are built differently. 395 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: If the wife gives you something that sucks, at least initially, 396 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: you must at least pretend to like it. You have 397 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: to pretend to enjoy it. And I am, in her defense, 398 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: notoriously notoriously difficult to shop for. There are a couple 399 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: of reasons for that. One. I do not have any hobbies. 400 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: And I know what you're thinking, Oh, yes, you do. 401 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: It's just weird. No, I don't have anything. It's actually 402 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: a source of frustration for my family. It was for 403 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: my parents growing up. It is for the wife and 404 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: kids now. There's nothing outside of work and hanging out 405 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: with them that I really enjoy doing. I can golf, 406 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: I have fun with it. I'm not obsessed with it. 407 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: I enjoy fishing, I'm not obsessed with it. I enjoy 408 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: a good hike. Not in the ural mountains, mind you, 409 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: but I enjoy a good hike, just not obsessed with it. 410 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: I just don't have things I have a passion for, 411 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: and that's part of being a disassociated sociopath. I do 412 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: not have something. If you told me I had the 413 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: rest of the week off, and it's not because I'm 414 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: some great worker. I just want to work ninety hours 415 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: a day, I would actually be bummed. I no, I 416 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: would like to actually come to my show. What else 417 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: am I supposed to do? Oh? Do your hobby? I 418 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: don't have one, so that makes it very difficult to 419 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: buy me gifts. I'm not into wood whittling, so I 420 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: don't need a little what that's That's a word, isn't it, 421 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: Chris whittling. It's a word. It's not a bad word. 422 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: Is It's a family show? All right? Hang on, I'll 423 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: continue to explain. Let me say miss something. There's a 424 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: podcast getting on demand wherever podcasts are found, The Jesse 425 00:30:42,000 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. I am very difficult to shop for. Again, 426 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm setting all this up in defense of the old 427 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: ball and chain. I'm difficult to shop for because I 428 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: don't have hobbies and I'm a minimalist. And when I 429 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: say a minimalist, I really mean that I just genuinely 430 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: do not like a lot of even what I like, 431 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: I have. The average person owns twenty five t shirts. 432 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: I own probably six. I find the ones I think 433 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: are comfortable. As soon as something isn't comfortable or doesn't 434 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: fit me right, and lots of times they don't because 435 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm so long, I just chuck it right in the trash. 436 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: When I had to move down to the Houston area 437 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: before the wife and kids could move down, I came 438 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: down here. I was selling ur vs and they opened 439 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: a new store and I was I had to come 440 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: down before them because the kids had to finish school. 441 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: So I move into our house by myself for like 442 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: two months. You know what I moved in A bed, 443 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: a recliner, in a television and that's the extent of 444 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: what I moved in. You can say that's immature. It's 445 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: like a bachelor. That's what I moved in. Nothing on 446 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: the walls, no extra you know, frills. That's what I needed. 447 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: I was working. I would come home, fire up a 448 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: documentary on Netflix for an hour, go to sleep, wake up, 449 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: and go back to work. You can say that's really sad, 450 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: and you know what it probably is, but it's fine. 451 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: That's how I live my life. All that said, at 452 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: one point she got me. This desk thing is the 453 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: best way I can describe this. It is heavy, and 454 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: this is going to come into play here in a 455 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: little while, extremely and I mean extremely heavy. I bet 456 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: you this thing weighs ten fifteen pounds as far as 457 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: a death thing. And it's a holder for a pen 458 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: or two and business cards. You know exactly what I'm 459 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: talking about. You've seen some version of this on every 460 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,479 Speaker 1: desk in the history of mankind, only this one was 461 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: specially made. So picture this a flat piece of iron 462 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: or something, and it is a heavy piece of metal 463 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: sitting on a desk, and there's a little slot for 464 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: the business cards, and there's a little slot for the pen. 465 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: Actually it's only about room for one pen in there, 466 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: making it also efficient and ugly. And then down to 467 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: the other end of the thing, there is a spring 468 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: coming out of it, a heavy, heavy duty spring, pointing 469 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: straight up. And on top of this heavy duty spring 470 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: is a hammer, a clawhammer, And you can, and people do, 471 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: grab the claw hammer as soon as you see it 472 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: and smash it down and the clawhammer springs back up. 473 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: And then if you're enjoying yourself, or you're a child 474 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: or an annoying human being, you do it again and 475 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: again and again. Yes, it is a desk thing that 476 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: holds business cards and pens with an annoying component to it, 477 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: and it's heavy and as you can imagine, I was 478 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: in sales at the time, selling RBS, so part of 479 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: my job was to bring people into my office, including 480 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: their children. And what did everybody do? Yeah, after this 481 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: thing had been the bane of my existence for three 482 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: or four years, we find out we're going to be moving. 483 00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: This is the Dallas area to Houston area move. So 484 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: I understand what I'm about to tell you is going 485 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: to make me sound like a bad person. But let 486 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: me clarify something. I am a bad person and I 487 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: have never pretended to be otherwise, and I will never 488 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: pretend to be otherwise. I understand that there are a 489 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 1: million other radio hosts in the country, and so many 490 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: of them, and I know them, they're my friends, are 491 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: genuinely wonderful people. They are good people. That is not me. 492 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: I am not. So I understand that now we're getting 493 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: ready to move, and I have this contraption that I've 494 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: hated for a long time, but a gift from the 495 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: wife on my desk, And I should mention I am 496 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: part of the first wave. You see several parts of 497 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: this office in the Dallas area are coming down to 498 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: the Houston area. Because I'm the sales manager, I'm part 499 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: of the first wave. I have to get everything set up. 500 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm packing up my desk, putting in some sales awards 501 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: Chris No, not to brag or anything, but had some 502 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: awards on the wall, throwing in your highlighters, your pens, 503 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: your business cards, YadA, YadA, YadA. Again. I'm a minimalist, 504 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: so I don't have a ton to pack on my desk. 505 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: This is the last time. As I'm about to say 506 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: goodbye to the office and I look over and I 507 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: see this hammer, business card pen contraption on the desk. 508 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: And it's moments like this. We all have these moments 509 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: in our lives. It's moments like this that will determine 510 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: the kind of person you're going to be. You can 511 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: look at that desk, at that business card holder that 512 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: your wife bought you out of her creativity, and you 513 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: can say to yourself, you know what, I'm taking that 514 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: with me because it's the right thing to do. Or 515 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: if you're like me, you can look at that business 516 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: card holder and say, that freaking thing is staying here. 517 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm finally free, and you can turn around and walk away, 518 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: which I did, only it followed me again. I understand 519 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: that what I did was wrong leaving it there. I do, 520 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: but remember I'm a minimalist and so I don't like clutter. 521 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: I don't like extra things. I'm the guy who chucks 522 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: out the old, uncomfortable T shirts. And what is right 523 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: and wrong when it comes to a gift from the missus? 524 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: How long am I obligated to keep it? They did 525 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: a Seinfeld episode on This one time about cards. How 526 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: long do you keep the card? I will tell you 527 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: you keep your cards longer than I keep my cards, 528 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: even if my cards are from my kids or my 529 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: wife are like my mom. I'll open up my card 530 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 1: at Christmas time, I will read it. I will walk 531 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: right over to the trash can and drop it in. 532 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: And people are horrified by that, as if them keeping 533 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: it an extra twenty four hours somehow makes them a 534 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: better person. How long am I obligated to keep the card? 535 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: I already read. I'm not going to read it again. 536 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: I read it once. So what's the obligation for a gift? 537 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: Three years? You say, Chris, to see that's not bad? 538 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: And I crossed that three year threshold with this gift. 539 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: I was at four or five. So look, I made 540 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: an executive to say the gift stay. Well, we it 541 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: didn't really stay the Jesse Kelly show. This is a 542 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly show. Now I get down to Houston, I 543 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: am free of this desk leach doing my thing down here. 544 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: Remember I was the first wave, and I worked with 545 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: this guy named Cliff, wonderful, wonderful human being, sadly a 546 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: very kind and conscientious human being. Cliff is in the 547 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: second wave. It's down. About a month or two after 548 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: I'm there, walks into my office and says, hey, man, 549 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: you forgot this thing your wife gave you here. I 550 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: brought it down for you as earnest as he could 551 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: possibly be. And I just, honestly, I couldn't even I 552 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: couldn't even muster myself to say thank you. I just 553 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: stared in disbelief as he set this thing on my 554 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: desk again. It made the trek from Dallasy. I couldn't. 555 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe this. Now fast forward to last night, 556 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: because I'm not even gonna bother. After I quit my 557 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: RV sales job a couple of years ago because I'm 558 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: an insane person to try media, which worked out all right, 559 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: but still I'm not going to bother trying to leave 560 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: it in the office again, mainly because Cliff's still there 561 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: and I don't want to have to explain to Cliff 562 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: that I want it gone, so I just take it home. 563 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: I bite the bullet. I'm assume I'm never going to 564 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: be rid of this thing. It's sitting on the desk 565 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: in my office at the house. Bringing me to last 566 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: night where I had to do this podcast. I won't 567 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: go into it right now. Look, the bottom line is 568 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm super famous and I had to do a podcast 569 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: last night. Well, my kids are being educated at the 570 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: home right now, as everybody's freaking kids are because we 571 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: shut down America because of a virus. I'm not going 572 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: to go into that right now. Is not going off again. 573 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: I get to my desk to do my podcast, and 574 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: of course my desk is covered in social studies books 575 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: and math books and everything else where one of my 576 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: children have faded the office desk. Everybody knows what I'm 577 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: talking about. Once you have kids, you have nothing anymore. 578 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: That's your own nothing. So I have to move some 579 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: things around the desk, and of course, wouldn't you know it, 580 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: this nine thousand pound bane of my existence business card 581 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 1: holder hammer thing falls off the end of the desk 582 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: as I'm moving things around and smashes a piece of 583 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: my tile on the floor. Not only has this thing 584 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: followed me around my entire life, I mean I might 585 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: as well attach it to my rear end. At this 586 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: point in time, it's now breaking things that are gonna 587 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: cost me time and money. So when I said I'm 588 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: still having home maintenance things, that's what I meant. Now 589 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: onto the task at hand, fouci. Yesterday, Trump gave this 590 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: big press conference yesterday, big press conference, and some lady 591 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: from CBS was there, trash and Trump, and they're all 592 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: going after Trump, and everybody knows what's going on right now. 593 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: Right everybody, the media is going to try to use 594 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: what's going on right now to take down Trump. They 595 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 1: are not in any way in this to inform anybody 596 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: about anything. They are out to get Trump. That's why 597 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: all these press conferences go this way. Well, why didn't 598 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: you this before? Why didn't you do this now? What 599 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: did you do? Why are you opening the economy when 600 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: people are gonna die? What do you what's wrong with you? 601 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: And look, I have no problem with reporters asking questions. 602 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 1: But the reason media popularity has actually tanked below what 603 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: it was beforehand, before this virus eving came out, is 604 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,959 Speaker 1: because during a crisis, people don't want to hear that. 605 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: They will excuse that during other times, but when people 606 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: are dying and twenty million Americans are on the unemployment rules, 607 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,760 Speaker 1: nobody wants to see your Oh I got Trump today 608 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: press conference, and now they're seriously going after Fauci as well, 609 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: trying to drive a wedge, obviously trying to drive a 610 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: wedge in between him and Trump. I'm gonna let you 611 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: listen to this one exchange and then I'm going to 612 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: tell you a bit of information that's going to help 613 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: you your entire life. Listen to this. The travel restriction 614 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: is separate. That was whether or not we wanted to 615 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: go into a mitigation stage of fifteen days of mitigation. 616 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: The travel was another recommendation when we went in and 617 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: said we probably should be doing that, and the answer 618 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: was yes. And then another time was we should do 619 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: it with Europe and the answer was yes. And the 620 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: next time we should do it with the UK and 621 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: the answer was yes, said the pushback. Where did that pushback? 622 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 1: It was in that was the wrong choice of words. 623 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: You know what it was when people discuss, not necessarily 624 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: in front of the present. When people discuss, they say, well, 625 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: you know this is going to have maybe a harmful 626 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: effect on this or on that. So it was a 627 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: poor choice of worries. It wasn't anybody saying no, you 628 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. Everything I do is voluntarily. Please don't 629 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: even imply that we had to do pre marriage counseling 630 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: before we got married. We were going to a church 631 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,479 Speaker 1: in Tucson. Part of their deal was it's the same 632 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 1: story for you. Probably part of their deal, well, I 633 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: don't know whether synagogue does that. You people do that, 634 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: Chris whatever. Either way, before they would marry you, they 635 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: would want you to do some pre marriage counseling. It 636 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: wasn't nothing too intense. It was actually pretty laid back. 637 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 1: Pastor and his wife want to sit down with you 638 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: and your upcoming wife, at least the first one, and 639 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: they want to sit down and they want to go 640 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: over y owh This is you know what the Bible 641 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: says about this. These are lessons we learned from this, 642 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: These are this and it was actually really nice. But 643 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: they gave us one piece of it, a vice that 644 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: was the most valuable piece of advice, advice, or at 645 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: least one of them I've ever had in my entire life, 646 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: applicable to friends, business, marriage, politics, everything. And what they 647 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: said was do not put your spouse in a bad 648 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: light to anybody. And this is what it meant, because 649 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: we all make this mistake, right, it's easy, it's tempting 650 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: to make this mistake. Let's go out and say, I 651 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: go home tonight and wife's in a bad mood, we 652 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 1: get in a big fights to nagging or something like that. 653 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: Who knows the other things that happened during the course 654 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: of her marriage. I decided to get up next morning, 655 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out play a little golf with the fellas. 656 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: What are you tempted to do? Oh gosh, I had 657 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: to get out of the house last night. The wife 658 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: would not stop nagging at me. Gosh, it's and now 659 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: you've just made her look like crap in front of 660 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: your buddies. Now you've just allowed yourself that outlet to 661 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: take things outside of the home. You have opened up 662 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: that outlet to take your arguments outside. The same thing 663 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: for women, forget to take out the trash, forget to 664 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,919 Speaker 1: do something instead of coming to me, having a fight 665 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: about it, or just keeping it to herself, calls her 666 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: mother or her sister or what of her friends. Ah, 667 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm so mad right now, he's freaking Lacey. Wouldn't even 668 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: take the track, just opened up an outlet. Now I 669 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: look like crap in front of your sister friend, mother. 670 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 1: Now you've allowed yourself that little vent time to go 671 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: complain to your friends about He's such a cherk. You 672 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't believe what he said to me. And what it 673 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: does over time is it erodes things. It allows you 674 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 1: to vents elsewhere, and it makes who you're married to 675 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: look like crap in front of other people and they 676 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: don't even know it. Totally unfair. Same thing applies in 677 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: a business environment. If I have a problem with producer Chris, 678 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 1: beyond the fact he doesn't believe in the New Testament, 679 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 1: I go to Producer Chris. I don't go to the 680 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: big bosses, I don't go to the sponsors. I don't 681 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 1: even go home and complain to my wife about it. 682 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: If I have an issue with producer Chris, I talked 683 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: to producer Chris about it, and he talks to me 684 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: about it and we work it out. Because there shouldn't 685 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: be a different outlet you address the problem you have. 686 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,359 Speaker 1: You have an issue with one of your buddies, had 687 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: one too many beers left his cans out in your 688 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: house ticked you off? Do you tell your buddy about it? 689 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: Or do you complain to all your other buddies about it. 690 00:48:53,920 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 1: What President Trump is doing with doctor Fauci is a tremendous, 691 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 1: tremendous mistake and there is a huge problem coming. Mark 692 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: my words, and I'll tell you what that problem is. 693 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: Hang on, Is he smarter than everyone who knows? Does 694 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: he think so? Yes? Yes he does. The Jesse Kelly Show, 695 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:58,240 Speaker 1: Keep your problems in house, keep your marriage problems in house, 696 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: keep your business problems in house, keep your political problems 697 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: in house. When it comes to sports, keep your team 698 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 1: problems in your house. So many people need this lesson today. 699 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: I have no issue at the beginning of this pandemic 700 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: allowing doctor Fauci on every cable news network he was on, 701 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, the things that weren't politically related, like barstool sports, 702 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: getting the word out. Do this, don't do that I 703 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 1: have no issue with it. We have shifted into a 704 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: time where the media is now. I mean it's not 705 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: like they ever took a break, but now they are 706 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: extremely openly hostile and quite obviously to anybody who is 707 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,760 Speaker 1: paying attention, they are trying to make Trump look terrible 708 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: and trying to drive a wedge in between Fouci and Trump. 709 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: They are they are not having doctor Fauci on the 710 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 1: cable news shows at night to inform the public. That's 711 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: why every question is angled in such a way so 712 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: they can get an answer like the one they just got. Oh, 713 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: what do you mean you got pushedback? What's it? Trump? 714 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: It was it Trump that didn't want it close six out? 715 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: It was Trump, wasn't it? I bet it was Trump? 716 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: You would They're going to succeed If you continue to 717 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: let doctor Fouci take his problems outside of the house, 718 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: the media is going to succeed. I'm not even blaming him. 719 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: It's what they do. Their professionals at it. They've been 720 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: doing it for years. If Donald Trump continues to let 721 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: doctor Fouci do these media tours, this is going to 722 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: end one of two ways, with Foucci resigning or Donald 723 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: Trump firing him, and then doctor Fauci writes his book, 724 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: which might be inevitable and which will contain enough anti 725 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: Trump stuff in it to guarantee sales, and then he'll 726 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: be on the media book tour for six months. We 727 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,360 Speaker 1: all have seen a version of this story before during 728 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: the Donald Trump presidency. Fauci is going to be no different. 729 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: And I'm not even badmouthing the guy when you know, 730 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: not that you think, when you know for a fact 731 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 1: the media wants to make Trump look bad and they 732 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 1: want to drive a wedge between Trump and Fauci. Why 733 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: are you hanging Fauci out there? Why you're asking for trouble. 734 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 1: You are opening up that pipeline the same way I 735 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,080 Speaker 1: would golfing with my buddies complaining about the wife. You're 736 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: opening up that line of communication for trouble. It is 737 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: time to rein him in. It's time to stop this nonsense. 738 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: Did you hear Tucker Carlson the other night go off 739 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: on the media. Did you he went off on it 740 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: and he was totally right. He's totally right. Well, today's 741 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: presidential press briefing, the president was asked, why did you 742 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: downplay the coronavirus initially, and he responded by playing back 743 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: clip showing that the press did the same. Now, Senaan 744 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: has a tenuous claim of being a news outlet in 745 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,240 Speaker 1: the best of times, but by the end of today's briefing, 746 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: they were like an Oberlin Women's studies professor posting screeds 747 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: on Facebook. Skyron's alteram between angry Trump turns briefing into 748 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: propaganda session and Trump uses Task Force briefing to try 749 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: and rewrite history and coronavirus response. Those are totally real 750 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 1: by the way they were real. They're openly hostile, and 751 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't do any good to sit around crying about 752 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: it right now, but you do have to take appropriate action. 753 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,240 Speaker 1: And you know what's coming next, right if you don't 754 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: allow me to preview it for you. Donald Trump knows 755 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,879 Speaker 1: he has to open the economy again. He knows this 756 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 1: virus was not nearly as bad as people told him 757 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: it was going to be. The millions are gonna die 758 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: was always absurd and now clearly looks extremely absurd. He 759 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: knows he cannot afford to launch the country into a 760 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: great depression, and we are heading there rapidly, so he 761 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: knows he needs to open up the economy again, he 762 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: knows he needs to open it up in a way 763 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 1: to try to mitigate to press assault that's coming. Because 764 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 1: here's what's coming. The second. The second he suggests easing 765 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: up any of these restrictions, you will see a full 766 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: court media press like you have never seen before, focusing 767 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: on each in every individual coronavirus death. From that point on, 768 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: each and every time each death will be focused on. 769 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 1: They will tell the story. It'll be a sixty minute special. 770 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 1: It's a special on this Oh, can you believe Donald Trump? 771 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: He's restrictions when people are still dying. It's coming. You 772 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 1: have got to anticipate that and get out ahead of it. 773 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: And I have to tell you what we're doing to 774 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: get out ahead of it. I don't like it. Headline 775 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: Trump says decision coming shortly on reopening the economy as 776 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: a task force is formed. Now, I certainly didn't come 777 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: on this show to insult anybody in particular, but let 778 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: me ask you something, Chris. What has been my major 779 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 1: issue with the response, national, state, and local response to 780 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 1: the coronavirus thing has been the issue the disconnect. The 781 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: disconnect you see if you're in Washington, DC or New 782 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: York and you're a politician, you're a policymaker, haven't missed 783 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 1: a paycheck? Or you're a political pundit. Maybe you're a writer, 784 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: maybe you go on TV. Haven't missed a paycheck, You're 785 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: just doing stuff from home. You see this thing much much, 786 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: much differently than the small businesses across the United States 787 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,839 Speaker 1: of America that are being wiped out. That's not even 788 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 1: necessarily an insult, although I think a lot more effort 789 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: needs to be made in connecting those two areas you have. 790 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 1: It's one thing to be in the bubble. All in 791 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: some kind of a bubble. Inevitably you are, I am, 792 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 1: but you have to realize you're in a bubble, an 793 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 1: attempt to break out of it, attempt to hear other things. 794 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 1: That's why I have on guests I disagree with. That's 795 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 1: why I have friends in all walks of life. I 796 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: want to hear other points of you. I want to 797 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: know what it's like outside of my bubble. What are 798 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 1: people saying to me? And so, if you're going to 799 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: put together a Reopening the Economy task Force, perhaps it 800 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 1: would be wise to reach outside of the DC New 801 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,520 Speaker 1: York super wealthy bubble and grab some people who are 802 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 1: just normal everyday people, business owners, business workers. Would you 803 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 1: like to know who's about to be on the Small 804 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,280 Speaker 1: Business Council? On my life? I'm not making this up. 805 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary Steve Benouchin, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, Agriculture Secretary 806 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 1: Center Perdue, Transportation Secretary and Secretary Elaine Chow, Energy Secretary 807 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: Dan bru and on and on and on we go. Oh, 808 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: we even threw in Larry Cutlow, Peter Navarro, Jared Kushner, 809 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 1: and Ivanka Trump. We do not have on this list, 810 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: to my knowledge, a single person worth less than a 811 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: million dollars most or most are worth several times that. 812 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: We do not have on this list a single person 813 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 1: who currently resides outside of the DC New York City 814 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 1: media bubble. I'm thrilled Trump is reopening the economy. I'm 815 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 1: mortified by the absolute swamp creatures we've chosen to be 816 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: on the council to do so. Yes, we need some 817 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 1: of these people on that list, but we need an 818 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: outside the bubble voice. These are not outside the bubba voices. 819 00:58:54,920 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: This defines inside the bubble. This tone deaf response has 820 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: ah maddening. Joining us now poets attorney and writer. He's 821 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 1: got a great piece in National Review about the handshake. 822 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 1: Tyler Grant Tyler, first of all, what's what's wrong with 823 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: the handsh What are you talking about? Yeah, so good 824 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,360 Speaker 1: to be back with you. I'd written a piece, started 825 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,880 Speaker 1: thinking about it after Trump and doctor Fauci had been 826 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 1: doing pressers where it basically kept repeating the fact that, 827 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't a handshaker before I was a politician, 828 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,479 Speaker 1: and now I've had to hand stright now and people 829 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: are telling me how to shake hands anymore, and maybe 830 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: that's a good thing, and maybe to handshake it his 831 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 1: dead and doctor found she said, you know, I don't 832 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: think that we'll ever shaid hands again. And so I 833 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 1: got thinking about it. I was in Grand Central right 834 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: before you know, everything went to just absolute chaos, and 835 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: I ran into the managing the hiring partner at my 836 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 1: previous law firm, and he kind of was he kind 837 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 1: of did this too little dance thing like I guess 838 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 1: we're not supposed to shake hands, and like bombed elbows, 839 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: and I got thinking about this idea for National Review 840 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: and Senatome I actually saw yesterday. Steve Forbes retweeted it 841 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 1: out so that was kind of cool to see. But yeah, 842 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I think we're entering a time where people are not 843 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 1: going to be eager to you know, choke hanes or 844 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 1: touch different things. And some of that's gonna be good 845 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: and hygienic, and other parts of it we do lose 846 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: that human element of shaking hands that I think we're 847 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 1: gonna be looking back on and it might be something 848 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 1: that we're gonna miss and think about. Do you think 849 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 1: it's gone really for good? Or is this just the 850 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 1: time period where people are going to be hesitant about 851 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 1: it but they're going to bring it back. Is it's 852 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: so hard to change cultural norms? And I'll tell you, man, 853 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it sounds ridiculous, I think it's 854 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 1: extremely important. In fact, you can tell a lot about 855 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 1: a man. Buy a handshake, if he's got one of 856 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: those limp wristed, deadfish handshakes, that tells you a lot 857 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: about him. Percent, you know, I think, so everything about 858 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 1: this a lot, you know. You know, I've talked about 859 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 1: this before about what sort of you know, economic, sociological, 860 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 1: cultural realignment that is going to occur after this, and 861 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: I think that there's going to be a lot. I 862 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 1: think that people moving business remotely. I think it's going 863 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,160 Speaker 1: to be something that becomes permanent for a lot of jobs. 864 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 1: I think the ideas this whole company concepts like we work, 865 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 1: that that's just gonna go in. No one's gonna want 866 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 1: to do that anymore. No one's gonna want to participate 867 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 1: in a business that's like that. I think it's going 868 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: to see a lot where they're they're gonna be different 869 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 1: rules for elites than there are for the regular and regular. Focus. 870 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 1: All these people that were able to shield themselves behind 871 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: these goats and walls on Long Island or in La 872 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: or whatever I mean there they're quarantine. Impact has been 873 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: much much less than the average person who's had to 874 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: make some serious sacrifices, whether that was a job, income, 875 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, food choices, babysitting choices, trying to keep their 876 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 1: kids you know educated, you know. I mean these guys 877 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: phoning in private tutors and all this kind of stuff. 878 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, those are some realignments. They're going to actually 879 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: have long term impact. And I think that what we 880 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: will see is until until we do have a vaccine 881 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 1: and people feel confident that that vaccine is working in effectives, 882 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,919 Speaker 1: I would be shocked if some of these elites ever 883 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: come back into New York City, for example, to pursue 884 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 1: their jobs or whatever. Anybody that's over fifty, for sure, 885 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 1: why would they risk If they have millions of millions 886 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,440 Speaker 1: of dollars, we can stay out and all the various 887 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 1: locations do not have to risk any type of disease, 888 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: while the rest of us want have to get back 889 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 1: to work to make the economy function again after it's 890 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 1: been at a dead stop and kind of going in 891 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 1: reverse for a while. Tyler, you've always been all over 892 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 1: the China angle of really everything, a long time before 893 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 1: this virus ever hit. You and I were on the 894 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: radio talking about China. It's just one of those things 895 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: you focus on, and I'm glad you do. I am worried, 896 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 1: and I hope I'm wrong. I hope you're about to 897 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 1: tell me I'm wrong. I am extremely worried that we 898 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 1: get through this and everything goes back to the way 899 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: it was that companies can't say no to that cheap 900 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 1: Chinese slave labor, that countries like ours in Europe and 901 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: around the world they can't say no to cheap Chinese goods, 902 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,760 Speaker 1: and we all go back to in a roundabout way 903 01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 1: funding our enemy and somebody who hurts us routinely on purpose? 904 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Am I crazy? So I think that it's actually and 905 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: it's an interesting question on a couple of different levels. 906 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 1: The first is which you see now the countries that 907 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 1: recognize that they don't have this weird social justice warrior 908 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: needing to not be offensive kind of nonsense, where you know, 909 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 1: we had a whole several minutes I going about the 910 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 1: Wuhan virus versus the Chinese virus versus the coronavirus. I 911 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 1: mean as ridiculous. Other countries did not have that debate. 912 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 1: Depend it spent a ton of money to try to 913 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: get some of its Japanese manufacturers back to Japan versus 914 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 1: being in China because they recognize read and they recognize 915 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 1: the coupling that existed is extremely problematic from a national 916 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 1: security perspective. So I think in two different levels, if 917 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 1: Trump wins, there will one hundred percent be repercussions for 918 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,240 Speaker 1: this that destroy the economy. If Biden wins and established 919 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 1: Democrats win, I think that you'll see some sort of soft, 920 01:04:55,080 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, resurgence of Chinese manufacturing and US recoupling from 921 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: all of the relationship and the company that's taken place 922 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 1: over the Trump administration from the trade war. I think 923 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 1: in an interest in national security, we would be absolutely 924 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 1: insane not to take extreme measures. Already we should have 925 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 1: been doing this in the first place. I mean, if 926 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,120 Speaker 1: you look at their relationship with Africa, if you look 927 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 1: at the relationship with it is the Belton Road initiative. 928 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 1: The things, the things that the Chinese do in order 929 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 1: to leverage their economic enemies are insane. I mean, there's 930 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 1: there's cables that have been released over these the week 931 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: because they've recognized that the US having an aircraft carrier 932 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 1: down basically because of the coronavirus has allowed them to 933 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 1: kind of show their teeth a little bit in the 934 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: South China. See, I mean, these aren't These aren't are buddies. 935 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Like every every relationship that they had since coronavirus, they've 936 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 1: tried to exploit and create longer term economic benefit from 937 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 1: What what is this road initiative you talked about? What 938 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: does this explain this to people? Yeah? So the Bone 939 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Road initiative is an idea that was launched machine you 940 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 1: can paying in kind of his his Phase three. I 941 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,400 Speaker 1: forget exactly what he calls it. But it's it's basically 942 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 1: an infrastructural revolution where he wants to make supply chains 943 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 1: that all roads lead back to China, basically kind of 944 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 1: a Middle Kingdom style idea, because you know, she's being 945 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 1: views himself as a you know, he is the authoritarian 946 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 1: for life in China, and he views himself as being 947 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 1: one of the great leaders of Chinese history that's going 948 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: to lead them into this like Chinese centric century. Going 949 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 1: forward to the Belton Road initiative is sort of a 950 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:34,920 Speaker 1: multifaceted approach from an infrastructure perspective, where they build roads, bridges, 951 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 1: supply lines, maritime relationships, ports all across the world with 952 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 1: exclusive relationships with the Chinese. So what they've done in 953 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 1: Africa is that created all these different huge roads bulldos 954 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 1: through like Mozambi, parts of Sub Saharan Africa to get 955 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 1: different resources that exclusively serve the Chinese. And they get 956 01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,960 Speaker 1: the you know, they send Chinese labor down there, they 957 01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 1: get the resources, they send it's China. They produced all 958 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 1: the materials and things that they sell to the world. 959 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 1: Same thing port wise, I mean you saw there. There's 960 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,320 Speaker 1: a whole litigation going on right now from for like 961 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 1: a Sri Lanka port where they created a highly leveraged 962 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 1: situation in order to seize a Sri lank import And 963 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 1: that's kind of battling a little bit right now because 964 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: they want to essentially have just little holes that are 965 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: all the different parts of the world that they can 966 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 1: have those relationships and it furthers their economy faster than 967 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 1: the rest of the world. What is what's the end goal? 968 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: If Trump gets these four more years and you said 969 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 1: he can hurt them, what can he actually do to them? 970 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Separate from Congress, because I'm worried about obviously at the 971 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 1: same thing everyone else is worried about roadblocks being thrown 972 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 1: up there. What can he do? Yeah, I mean, I 973 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: think it's I think the argument is really what we've 974 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 1: talked about in our prior calls, which is the fact 975 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 1: that you have to create a compelling reason for American 976 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: companies to realize that investing in the United States is 977 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,200 Speaker 1: ultimately going to be long term beneficial. Number one, and 978 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 1: number two that creating US based companies where we're not 979 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 1: um offshoring all of our resources, our manufacturing capabilities, all 980 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 1: of our jobs. But that's a national security problem that 981 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 1: American companies can solve by simply just saying no to 982 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 1: these ridiculous demands. I think the easiest example is the 983 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 1: NBA when they say, oh, hey, you know, don't don't 984 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 1: criticize the you know, our our treatment of Hong Kong, 985 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 1: and the NBA just said, we're you know, we're we 986 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 1: won't say anything or zip it on up no, because 987 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,600 Speaker 1: we don't want are they going to do? Tyler Grant Attorney. 988 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: Go read his Handshake article. It's outstanding at National Review. Tyler, 989 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you giving us some wisdom to day my man. 990 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 1: All right, thanks so to see you good. That was 991 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 1: smart stuff, Chris, not just for me for once. Either. 992 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show, you're welcome. I 993 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 1: have to use the bathroom and I need to clarify 994 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:50,080 Speaker 1: a couple of things. Obviously everybody heard my Thailand dysentery 995 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 1: story the other day, so you have a brief window 996 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,679 Speaker 1: into my thinking now before you send me your emails, 997 01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 1: and you're welcome to email me about anything. Always Jesse 998 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 1: at Jesse Kelly Show dot com. It's Jesse at Jesse 999 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,240 Speaker 1: Kelly Show dot com. Again. I get so many I 1000 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 1: probably will not be able to respond. If you send it, 1001 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 1: I will read it. I read every email you can 1002 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,559 Speaker 1: ask producer Chris, he gives me every single one of them. 1003 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 1: I read every email. I check them all out Jesse 1004 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 1: at Jesse Kelly show dot com. So again, don't be 1005 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 1: writing me though and calling me a big girl, because 1006 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm not this huge germophoe. I'm not walking around right 1007 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 1: now with a mask on and gloves in a bodysuit. However, 1008 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 1: because so many people out there, not you, mind you, 1009 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 1: but so many people out there are disgusting savages. I 1010 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 1: do not like to use public restrooms. Now. I'm not 1011 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,599 Speaker 1: talking about the urinal. I'm a dude, It's no big deal. 1012 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,879 Speaker 1: I go use the urinal, I wash my hands with soap, 1013 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,760 Speaker 1: I then leave the bathroom. I am talking about the 1014 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 1: other thing you have to do in the bathroom. Not 1015 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 1: the most comfortable subject, Chris. But we're an open book 1016 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 1: on this show, are we not. And I do not 1017 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,599 Speaker 1: like doing it in public. It's not something I won't do, 1018 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:20,679 Speaker 1: it's something I do not like doing. I have some 1019 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,000 Speaker 1: certain techniques I use. When I say techniques, I mean 1020 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 1: I have certain locations that are almost always clean that 1021 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 1: it should an emergency arise, I will go to these locations. 1022 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 1: I've elaborated on the show before about that. Am I 1023 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: going to tell you no? Because I think I'm worried 1024 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,840 Speaker 1: you're going to ruin those two So I'm not telling 1025 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,559 Speaker 1: you about it. I'm keeping that to myself. Maybe one 1026 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 1: day I'll divulge that information. It ain't going to be today. 1027 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 1: But when I'm at work, I like to go to 1028 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,720 Speaker 1: the other floors. You see, we are in this skyscraper 1029 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:03,800 Speaker 1: here the iHeart studios in this absolute skyscraper, and you 1030 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,040 Speaker 1: have to have a key to get to various floors 1031 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 1: in the building. So if you work on the third floor, 1032 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,600 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily get access to the seventh floor or 1033 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:18,360 Speaker 1: the twentieth floor, whatever it may be. Somebody, by the 1034 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 1: grace of God, screwed up when they programmed my key, 1035 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,559 Speaker 1: and it gave me access to all the floors of 1036 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,479 Speaker 1: the building. I am not supposed to have access to 1037 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 1: all the floors of the building. I do have access 1038 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,680 Speaker 1: to all the floors of the building. And guess what, 1039 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,320 Speaker 1: there are floors with virtually nobody on them, and the 1040 01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 1: bathrooms are sparkling, absolutely sparkling. So if nature chooses to 1041 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 1: call while I'm here at work. I have options, or 1042 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,640 Speaker 1: I should say I had options, and it was so glorious. 1043 01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,839 Speaker 1: I won't tell anybody what the floors aren't tell anybody 1044 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,840 Speaker 1: how I get up there, But everybody else has to 1045 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 1: hump on down to the hall to the disgusting you know, 1046 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 1: radio students, and these radio people were such foul beasts. 1047 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,639 Speaker 1: I realized it's the same in a lot of offices. 1048 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,719 Speaker 1: But someone will throw out some five day old donuts 1049 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 1: in the kitchen and they're gone in five seconds, and 1050 01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,639 Speaker 1: the bathroom's filthy. It's just everything's filthy and gross. So 1051 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 1: I had my special floors where I could go up 1052 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:31,360 Speaker 1: should the need arise. Because of this freaking coronavirus thing, 1053 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 1: they have cut off my floors. Chris, I walked in 1054 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 1: yesterday and I do the little beep beep thing with 1055 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 1: my ticket, with my ticket, with my key. It's denying me. 1056 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,000 Speaker 1: They have denied me access to my other floors. And 1057 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 1: the question is, obviously, I know this is coronavirus related. 1058 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure the one or two companies on those floors 1059 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,040 Speaker 1: have shut down, so they just locked down the floor. 1060 01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,400 Speaker 1: When they turn them back on, is my key going 1061 01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,120 Speaker 1: to give me access again to those floors, or did 1062 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 1: they discover me and cut me off? Because you know 1063 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 1: they track that stuff. You know, they track who's going where, 1064 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,599 Speaker 1: because each key has this electronic symbol on it, an 1065 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,559 Speaker 1: electronic label. Whatever I get in the elevator and swipe 1066 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:21,639 Speaker 1: a key, they know. And so somebody out there has 1067 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,799 Speaker 1: too much time on his hands. I'll tell you what happened. 1068 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 1: And he's going through the various security protocols of the building, 1069 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,200 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he sees Jesse Kelly radio host. 1070 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,599 Speaker 1: What in the world is he doing for forty five 1071 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,799 Speaker 1: minutes at a time on the fifteenth floor. What, Chris, 1072 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 1: what do you guys? Rush? I don't rush. That's why 1073 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,559 Speaker 1: I won't go during the show. I'm not going during 1074 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 1: the break. If I go, I'm hunkering down for a while. 1075 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get some prep work done. I'm hanging out 1076 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:57,040 Speaker 1: for a bit. So either way, I've lost access to 1077 01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:03,520 Speaker 1: those other floors, which cause to me to think about Obviously, 1078 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,679 Speaker 1: not the worst bathroom experience I've ever had, but one 1079 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,200 Speaker 1: of the worst bathroom experiences I've ever had. Everybody heard 1080 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,760 Speaker 1: the worst one. Everybody heard the Thailand dysentery story. I'm 1081 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 1: not going to relive that right now because I'd like 1082 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:20,280 Speaker 1: to eat again today. But I had one just as 1083 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 1: bad in Denver's airport. Now, I'm actually not ripping on 1084 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,320 Speaker 1: Denver or Denver's airport. I love Denver if you've never 1085 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:35,960 Speaker 1: been highly recommended. It's like this gorgeous city surrounded by mountains, 1086 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,960 Speaker 1: and it's pretty clean, and it's gotta looking like almost 1087 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,680 Speaker 1: all beautiful places. It's gotten overrun by leftists now who 1088 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,400 Speaker 1: are just crapping all over the place. But Denver's a 1089 01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,720 Speaker 1: sweet place, and for being a rocky mountain city, the 1090 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,200 Speaker 1: weather is actually pretty balmy. It's not bad there, like 1091 01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 1: Denver's just awesome. And I even like their airport, why 1092 01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,839 Speaker 1: because every airport is only as good as its food options. However, 1093 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 1: there at least was a fatal flaw with the Denver 1094 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:09,559 Speaker 1: airport hang up. You know a lot of people go 1095 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,679 Speaker 1: to college for seven years. I know they're called doctors. 1096 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:32,879 Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. I don't like public restrooms. 1097 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,439 Speaker 1: Everyone knows this. I just elaborated on that, and there 1098 01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,240 Speaker 1: is probably I don't know if you could pick a 1099 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 1: worse one besides maybe a bar or something. Chris that 1100 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 1: would be more disgusting than an airport restroom. And this 1101 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,000 Speaker 1: is not coronavirus related. This is it's not that. I mean, 1102 01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,599 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's an added concern right now. I also 1103 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,439 Speaker 1: don't want to go poop and then drown in my 1104 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,120 Speaker 1: lung fluid. That doesn't sound like any fun at all. 1105 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,679 Speaker 1: But air force airport bathrooms, just the amount of people 1106 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 1: going through there, and you know what it is. Even 1107 01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 1: in your office bathroom, it doesn't get that bad because 1108 01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,680 Speaker 1: at least there's some connection. You know, I'm not going 1109 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 1: to have some dirt ball go in there and just 1110 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,640 Speaker 1: trash the place because he knows he's got to go 1111 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,720 Speaker 1: back there at some point in time that day. Most 1112 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 1: likely it's his. He has some relation to it. The 1113 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,719 Speaker 1: airport bathroom is extra disgusting because you're going to touch 1114 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 1: that stall and you're very likely never going to touch 1115 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,920 Speaker 1: it again. You probably won't ever enter that bathroom door again. 1116 01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 1: And when people have that kind of freedom to do 1117 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 1: whatever they want, things go south quickly. Look at Vegas, 1118 01:17:43,520 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 1: which brings me to the Denver bathroom. Hang up, Jesse Kelly, 1119 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 1: this is a Jesse Kelly show. I roll into the 1120 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 1: Denver men's room. And as you know, it was a 1121 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:39,799 Speaker 1: requirement I had to go. I sit down at the throne, 1122 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 1: and it happens to be one of the worst things 1123 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,120 Speaker 1: ever invented in the history of mankind. What is that thing? 1124 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:53,080 Speaker 1: The motion sensor toilet to pair with the motion sensor 1125 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:58,880 Speaker 1: hands free faucets, only, this motion sensor toilet had to 1126 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:04,559 Speaker 1: gigantic flaws. Keep in mind, and this is gonna play 1127 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:11,559 Speaker 1: a part in our story. I am grossed out just 1128 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 1: sitting there. I'm grossed out. Public resume, airport and is foul. 1129 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:21,559 Speaker 1: Everything's gross. So knowing that, I mean, I I'm even 1130 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,639 Speaker 1: doing that thing. This is kind of embarrassing. I sound 1131 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,280 Speaker 1: like a germophobe freak. I'm even doing that thing where 1132 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't breathe through my nose. Chris, you know what 1133 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about where you only breathe what where you 1134 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,760 Speaker 1: kind of you don't plug your nose with your You 1135 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm talking about. You don't plug your 1136 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 1: nose with your hands. You just breathe through your mouth anyway. 1137 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:46,400 Speaker 1: So I get seated and there's a flaw. Two flaws 1138 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,760 Speaker 1: with the toilet. One it's one of those toilets, and 1139 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,160 Speaker 1: this just grosses you out even more for thinking about 1140 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 1: all your surroundings in there. One. The flush is apparently 1141 01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:03,799 Speaker 1: a little bit too powerful. In the flush pushes whatever 1142 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,200 Speaker 1: the water inside of the toilet, it splatters out of 1143 01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:13,880 Speaker 1: the toilet. That's flawed number one, which maybe you can 1144 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,920 Speaker 1: live with, unless it was paired with flawed number two. 1145 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,639 Speaker 1: Any emotion on this toilet, it's it's got some kind 1146 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,320 Speaker 1: of malfunction in this one. Not where you stand up 1147 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:34,679 Speaker 1: or sit down, any emotion whatsoever, any motion it flushes. Now. 1148 01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 1: I want you to picture this situation as it was. 1149 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 1: I am seated on this toilet. I'm grossed out, I 1150 01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:51,679 Speaker 1: obviously because I'm not Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible, hanging 1151 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,519 Speaker 1: down from the ceiling. I have to move. At some 1152 01:20:54,600 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 1: point the toilet boom flushes. It's now splattering me. I'm 1153 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:08,479 Speaker 1: now borderline dry heaving in the toilet. I can't figure 1154 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 1: out what happened the first time. I'm almost wondering if 1155 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,160 Speaker 1: I hit a button or something. What. I didn't do anything. 1156 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 1: I just kind of turned a little bit. And then 1157 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,400 Speaker 1: I turn again and it happens again, and I figure out, 1158 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,240 Speaker 1: oh no, this is going to flush and splatter me 1159 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:31,120 Speaker 1: every single time I move. Only without going into too 1160 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:35,679 Speaker 1: much detail here, I realized some of you are eating breakfast, lunch, 1161 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:40,320 Speaker 1: or dinner. I obviously have to move to do some things. 1162 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:48,559 Speaker 1: I can't remain motionless forever on the toilet, and so 1163 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:53,080 Speaker 1: I try. First of all, I try, and this probably 1164 01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,519 Speaker 1: was a mistake. Initially, it was probably bad thinking. I 1165 01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 1: try to move super fast, so maybe it won't pick 1166 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,719 Speaker 1: it up. I try to do that thing quickly, flexes. 1167 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,320 Speaker 1: I just reached to the right really fast. That does 1168 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:12,200 Speaker 1: not work at all. I then decide, okay, I've got 1169 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,679 Speaker 1: plenty of time before my flight. Keep in mind, I'm 1170 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,320 Speaker 1: so grossed out now. It's not even hot in there, 1171 01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,320 Speaker 1: but I'm sweating. Now, I have sweat beating up on 1172 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:27,439 Speaker 1: my forehead. I'm sweating. And then I decide, okay, what 1173 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:35,160 Speaker 1: if I just go suber slow? Boom picks up on 1174 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:43,559 Speaker 1: that too long story short, what I had to do 1175 01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:49,000 Speaker 1: was go ahead, bite the bullet on the flush, and 1176 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 1: then try to get all your motion out of the 1177 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:56,000 Speaker 1: way in between while the flush was going on, before 1178 01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 1: new one could start. I almost wanted to cry as 1179 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:04,040 Speaker 1: I left that bathroom. I have never been that just 1180 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:08,040 Speaker 1: emotionally broken in my entire life. It's not funny, Chris, 1181 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:12,080 Speaker 1: it's disgusting. It's disgusting, it's you know what, We're gonna 1182 01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,320 Speaker 1: go back to talking about politics. I can't do this anymore. 1183 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm reliving it now and now I'm gonna have PTSD. 1184 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 1: New data shows US companies are definitely leaving China. This 1185 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:28,840 Speaker 1: is from Forbes dot Com. US companies are leaving China 1186 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,200 Speaker 1: thanks to the trade war. They'll leave even more thanks 1187 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:36,720 Speaker 1: to the pandemic. Global manufacturing consulting firm Kearney released its 1188 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:41,080 Speaker 1: seventh annual Reshoring Index on Tuesday, showing what it called 1189 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,760 Speaker 1: a dramatic reversal of a five year trend. As domestic 1190 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:50,000 Speaker 1: US manufacturing in twenty nineteen commanded a significantly greater share 1191 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,640 Speaker 1: versus fourteen Asian exporters tracked in the study. Manufacturing in 1192 01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:59,600 Speaker 1: imports from China, we're hardest hit last year. This is 1193 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:06,080 Speaker 1: before coronavirus people. Last year saw companies actively rethinking their 1194 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:10,920 Speaker 1: supply chain, either convincing their Chinese partners to relocate to 1195 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,680 Speaker 1: Southeast Asia to avoid tariffs, or by opting out of 1196 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:19,640 Speaker 1: sourcing from China altogether. What this actually means in the 1197 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 1: long run I'm extremely hopeful for it. I'll tell you 1198 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,799 Speaker 1: that because, like you heard me say to Tyler earlier, 1199 01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm skeptical we're going to be able to do it. 1200 01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm skeptical we're going to be able to do what 1201 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,360 Speaker 1: needs to be done to get out of China. And look, 1202 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,960 Speaker 1: here's something nobody wants to talk about. Here's an angle 1203 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,160 Speaker 1: to this. Nobody wants to talk about. But it's one 1204 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,160 Speaker 1: hundred percent true, and you better find a way to 1205 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 1: deal with it. And I understand what I'm about to 1206 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:46,719 Speaker 1: say is going to make a lot of you mad. 1207 01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 1: We are never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever going 1208 01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:02,120 Speaker 1: to keep enough companies out of ch and bring enough 1209 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:07,200 Speaker 1: manufacturing back here to be like we used to be 1210 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,600 Speaker 1: when we have the labor laws that we have in 1211 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:20,680 Speaker 1: the United States of America. I understand that sucks. I 1212 01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 1: understand I have a big working man following a big 1213 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,200 Speaker 1: union following. I get that. I'm not ripping on your union. 1214 01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:33,000 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, if I am Jesse's steel company 1215 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,880 Speaker 1: and I have to procure the materials, and I have 1216 01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:38,519 Speaker 1: to have a factory, and I have to, you know, 1217 01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:42,599 Speaker 1: churn out some steel, I have just like every other 1218 01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,360 Speaker 1: company in the world. I have a profit loss sheet, 1219 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:50,439 Speaker 1: and when my profit loss sheet it's going on my 1220 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 1: profit loss sheet, it is going to break down for 1221 01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,560 Speaker 1: me the various costs and revenues that are coming in 1222 01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,839 Speaker 1: and going out of my business and everything. Angle profit 1223 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,280 Speaker 1: law sheet to a man, has a labor cost on there. 1224 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,559 Speaker 1: And I will tell you most of the time, most 1225 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,040 Speaker 1: of the time, that is the number that sticks out 1226 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:15,160 Speaker 1: at you, right in your face. I am not saying 1227 01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,679 Speaker 1: you don't deserve an honest day's wage for an honest 1228 01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,000 Speaker 1: stay's work. What I am saying is if I'm Jesse's 1229 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:25,000 Speaker 1: Steel company and I'm staring at my profit laws sheet 1230 01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,480 Speaker 1: and my labor costs are one hundred thousand here in America, 1231 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,640 Speaker 1: or i can move my factory to China and my 1232 01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:38,760 Speaker 1: labor costs become ten thousand, that is well, let's just 1233 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:46,599 Speaker 1: be honest. That's inevitable, is what it is. Our environmental laws, 1234 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:53,880 Speaker 1: our labor laws, our taxes, our regulations have driven up 1235 01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,960 Speaker 1: the cost of doing business here in America. And we 1236 01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,280 Speaker 1: don't like to talk about that one because it sounds 1237 01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:03,200 Speaker 1: anti work man, which everybody knows I'm not. And two 1238 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,639 Speaker 1: because it's harder to wrap your arms around. It's not sexy, right, 1239 01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,640 Speaker 1: It's not sexy to talk about taxes and regulations and 1240 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,400 Speaker 1: labor laws. And I don't do a lot of that. 1241 01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:12,720 Speaker 1: And I won't do a lot of it because I 1242 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:16,240 Speaker 1: don't want your eyes to glaze over. But it's just 1243 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:22,599 Speaker 1: a simple fact of the matter. If labor costs two three, four, five, six, seven, eight, 1244 01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:26,679 Speaker 1: nine ten times more here than it does somewhere else, 1245 01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 1: well I have an obligation to my country, but I 1246 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,599 Speaker 1: have an obligation to my business and my shareholders too. 1247 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:55,200 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll address that problem one of these days. This 1248 01:27:55,560 --> 01:28:24,759 Speaker 1: is the Jessie Keilly Show. More than half of all 1249 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:29,080 Speaker 1: of Earth's ocean life died off four hundred and forty 1250 01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,680 Speaker 1: four million years ago because it ran out of oxygen. 1251 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:36,240 Speaker 1: A study shows, well, first of all, they have no 1252 01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:40,840 Speaker 1: freaking idea. Just stop making up random stuff. They've have 1253 01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:46,479 Speaker 1: no freaking idea at all. Second of all, how is 1254 01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:52,400 Speaker 1: that a bad thing? Have you seen the absolutely horrifying 1255 01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 1: creatures in our ocean? The ones that are still there now? 1256 01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:02,240 Speaker 1: You know in sperm whales grow up Chris sperm whales 1257 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,080 Speaker 1: they hunt in these giant squids, and you know how 1258 01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,240 Speaker 1: big giant squids get they're like as big as the squirts, 1259 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 1: the squirm rails the sperm whales, and sperm whales will 1260 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,720 Speaker 1: suck in this gigantic bit of oxygen and they will 1261 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:22,120 Speaker 1: swim down into the depths of the ocean and have 1262 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:27,720 Speaker 1: these massive brawls with giant squids, like something out of 1263 01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:33,720 Speaker 1: a freaking Godzilla movie. I love the ocean. I enjoy it. 1264 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,360 Speaker 1: I swim in it. I dive off boats into it. 1265 01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:42,439 Speaker 1: I snorkel, I scuba dive, I bodysurf. However, it is 1266 01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:47,640 Speaker 1: absolutely horrifying. It is absolutely horrifying. That's part of the 1267 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,400 Speaker 1: reason I love it. I have to tell you, it's 1268 01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,760 Speaker 1: part of the reason I love it. What Chris, They're 1269 01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:57,880 Speaker 1: thirty three feet long. Gosh, that is horrifying. That's look, 1270 01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:59,240 Speaker 1: that's part of the reason I love it. It gets 1271 01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,200 Speaker 1: the old motor run, it gets the blood flow, and 1272 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm scared to death of it. It's different. And I 1273 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,599 Speaker 1: love these people. I have no idea why I'm talking 1274 01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,920 Speaker 1: about this. I love these people who say and it's 1275 01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,799 Speaker 1: always some you know, marine biologists or some shark expert. 1276 01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:17,400 Speaker 1: You'll be watching Shark Shark Week on Discovery Channel or whatever. Channel. 1277 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,600 Speaker 1: It's on. I think it's a Discovery channel. You'll be 1278 01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 1: watching Shark Week and it'll be, you know, an hour 1279 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:29,160 Speaker 1: long episode of when tiger Sharks attack, and it'll be 1280 01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, well, well I've I lost both of my legs, 1281 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,320 Speaker 1: and well I got to see my friend's head bitten 1282 01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,960 Speaker 1: off in front of me, and it's all these horrifying 1283 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,160 Speaker 1: stories about it. There's blood in the water and there 1284 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,320 Speaker 1: was screaming. It hurts so bad, and you're just sitting 1285 01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:45,400 Speaker 1: there with your jaw hanging open, thinking, Wow, that's the 1286 01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,519 Speaker 1: worst experience ever. And you know what you get. You 1287 01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,320 Speaker 1: always get. This marine biologist come on after that, and 1288 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,759 Speaker 1: you know him right, and he says something like, look, 1289 01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:59,360 Speaker 1: it's just a case of mistaken identity. The shark thinks 1290 01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,800 Speaker 1: that the urfer is a seal, and that's why the 1291 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:10,360 Speaker 1: shark attacked you. WHOA, yeah, what does that have to 1292 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:15,240 Speaker 1: do with anything? What does that does the fact that 1293 01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:19,719 Speaker 1: it's an accident, Is that going to provide some sort 1294 01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:23,920 Speaker 1: of comfort? As the tiger shark's teeth are separating my 1295 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,720 Speaker 1: upper torso from my lower torso, am I going to 1296 01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:29,240 Speaker 1: be drowning into the bottom of the ocean in my 1297 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,000 Speaker 1: own blood and ocean water and say to myself, well, 1298 01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,400 Speaker 1: look he just screwed up. It's not a big deal. 1299 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,120 Speaker 1: I did to hear themselves, it would be like saying, well, 1300 01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,960 Speaker 1: I mean somebody broke in my house tonight and killed 1301 01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:46,080 Speaker 1: me with an axe, and somebody standing by the bed saying, look, 1302 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,160 Speaker 1: he just sleepwalks and does this, it's nothing to be 1303 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:52,360 Speaker 1: afraid of. How does that help the situation at hand? 1304 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,920 Speaker 1: If the animal, which is a gigantic eating machine can 1305 01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:00,200 Speaker 1: kill me and will kill me because he thinks I'm 1306 01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,519 Speaker 1: a seal, that's no comfort. I'm dead just the same. 1307 01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,640 Speaker 1: If anything gets more terrifying, I would almost rather he 1308 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,800 Speaker 1: purposely be going after me. What he just thought I 1309 01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,680 Speaker 1: was a seal. I guess it's my day to go. 1310 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:17,639 Speaker 1: That's no comfort at all. It's absolutely no comfort at all. 1311 01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:23,519 Speaker 1: The ocean's horrifying. Speaking of horrifying, we opened up today's 1312 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:31,640 Speaker 1: show talking about the mysterious creepy Diatlov pass incident. D 1313 01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:36,439 Speaker 1: y A. T l Ov Diatlov Pass took place in 1314 01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:41,120 Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine. If you missed the opening of today's show, 1315 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:47,160 Speaker 1: you're going to want to hear it. The podcast is 1316 01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:49,960 Speaker 1: available of the entire show pretty close to after the show, 1317 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:55,679 Speaker 1: I mean almost immediately after on Google, Spotify, I Heeart. 1318 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:57,920 Speaker 1: It's an easy way to listen to it on iHeart 1319 01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,320 Speaker 1: Apple if that's your thing, you're an eye phone guy. 1320 01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,200 Speaker 1: It's all right there on the It's all right there 1321 01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,639 Speaker 1: in the palm of your hands. If you ever catch 1322 01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:07,160 Speaker 1: an opening, today's would be one of the ones you 1323 01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:14,160 Speaker 1: need to catch. But it's speaking of the mysterious thing danger. 1324 01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:20,519 Speaker 1: I like it to an extent. I like it, and 1325 01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,040 Speaker 1: I talked about when I was talking about the law 1326 01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,040 Speaker 1: passings and then the elk hunting thing. And let me 1327 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:27,360 Speaker 1: explain what we used to do. And let me just 1328 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,920 Speaker 1: tell you, for you city slickers out there, you need 1329 01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,559 Speaker 1: to get a guide, a professional guide, if you're ever 1330 01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:35,080 Speaker 1: going to try to do something like this. But we 1331 01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:39,400 Speaker 1: were extremely experienced, and there's something about the wilderness and 1332 01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:44,760 Speaker 1: the mountains that's great because it's remote and because it's dangerous. 1333 01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,439 Speaker 1: So what we would do is we'd find an area 1334 01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:51,760 Speaker 1: where we knew we were going to elk hunt later 1335 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,000 Speaker 1: on that year when it became elk season, and we 1336 01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,639 Speaker 1: would pack a bunch of mules, because mules are best 1337 01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,000 Speaker 1: to pack. Giron we would pack a bunch of mules 1338 01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:06,080 Speaker 1: with all kinds of gear. We're talking food, toilet paper, 1339 01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,599 Speaker 1: all this stuff. We'd load them down and we hop 1340 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,320 Speaker 1: on horses and you'd, you know, run the mule behind you, 1341 01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 1: just like you see in the John Wayne movies. You'd 1342 01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,320 Speaker 1: run the mule behind you, and we would ride up 1343 01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:21,080 Speaker 1: into the mountains, and then we would bring shovels along. 1344 01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,439 Speaker 1: We actually dug out a professional toilet out there in 1345 01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:26,559 Speaker 1: the mountains. Chris I had to dig this big pit 1346 01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,599 Speaker 1: and then put these logs over the top of it, 1347 01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,559 Speaker 1: where we then screwed in an actual toilet seat, an 1348 01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:35,880 Speaker 1: actual toilet seat right there in the mountains. So would 1349 01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,679 Speaker 1: you add to you know, use the John You didn't 1350 01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:39,879 Speaker 1: have water splattering on you like in the Denver Airport. 1351 01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,559 Speaker 1: But and then we had these huge five gallon drums 1352 01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,599 Speaker 1: we brought along. And what we did was we dug 1353 01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,200 Speaker 1: these pits in the bottom of the in the ground, 1354 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,120 Speaker 1: filled up these five gallon drums with you know, beeferoni 1355 01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,360 Speaker 1: and cans of beans and toilet paper and everything else, 1356 01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,840 Speaker 1: and then we rode out of the mountains. And four 1357 01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:02,040 Speaker 1: or five months later, season comes and you hop on 1358 01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:05,480 Speaker 1: your horses and again you pack the mules with perishables 1359 01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,160 Speaker 1: this time, and you ride up into the mountains to 1360 01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:14,679 Speaker 1: Elk Camp. It's awesome, but it's awesome because it's scary. 1361 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,439 Speaker 1: You get up there and you're riding through the forest 1362 01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:24,800 Speaker 1: of Montana and there's nobody around in any direction for 1363 01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:32,800 Speaker 1: fifty miles one hundred miles, and you know, it is 1364 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,880 Speaker 1: just a cool experience. Maybe it's because I'm such a 1365 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:40,240 Speaker 1: history freak. You know that nobody has been here where 1366 01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:44,160 Speaker 1: you are for a long time. If ever, you know 1367 01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:48,760 Speaker 1: that if something goes really wrong here, you are screwed. 1368 01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:54,080 Speaker 1: And you also know you're all alone. You have your guys, 1369 01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,320 Speaker 1: you're with, you have your weapon. You let somebody know 1370 01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,599 Speaker 1: to come looking for you if you're smart, if you're 1371 01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,000 Speaker 1: not back in a few days. But you're all alone. 1372 01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:06,559 Speaker 1: And there's something Lewis and Clark feeling about that. Lewis, 1373 01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:08,840 Speaker 1: please tell me you know who Lewis and Clark archers 1374 01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:13,400 Speaker 1: All right, good. There's something about that feeling of hunkering 1375 01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,920 Speaker 1: down and you set up your tent, start a camp fire, 1376 01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:22,559 Speaker 1: and you're alone in the mountains. It's a cool feeling. 1377 01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,639 Speaker 1: Highly highly recommend that. And I have no earthly idea. 1378 01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:30,080 Speaker 1: How I get onto that? Now, allow me to shift 1379 01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:34,320 Speaker 1: gears for just a moment, and I'll probably play you 1380 01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,800 Speaker 1: this audio cut because I have an audio cut of this. 1381 01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 1: I'll probably play it for you in the last segment. 1382 01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,519 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it right now. But there's 1383 01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,599 Speaker 1: a media guy, one of the various media contributors out there. 1384 01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:52,240 Speaker 1: He went on CNN and he essentially did, well, you 1385 01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:55,840 Speaker 1: deserve coronavirus if you voted for Trump. Kind of a thing. 1386 01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,920 Speaker 1: That wasn't what he said verbatim. I'll play you what 1387 01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:02,360 Speaker 1: he said verbatim in the end. And what's happened is 1388 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:10,720 Speaker 1: have you ever known somebody bitter? Yeah? Have undoubtedly right, 1389 01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:18,200 Speaker 1: divorce dude, divorced woman, feminist, whatever form bitterness takes, you've 1390 01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,200 Speaker 1: known somebody in your life that's bitter. Maybe they even 1391 01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,639 Speaker 1: had any every reason to be just bitter, let themselves 1392 01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,240 Speaker 1: get stuck in that trap. Maybe you're bitter right now. 1393 01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:35,320 Speaker 1: Nothing destroys the clarity of your thinking like bitterness. Nothing does, 1394 01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:40,880 Speaker 1: and nothing is less appealing in another human being than bitterness. 1395 01:37:42,280 --> 01:38:11,439 Speaker 1: Hang on, well, we need some brains on this show now, 1396 01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:14,320 Speaker 1: So we are going to Marina Medven. She's the senior 1397 01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,559 Speaker 1: columnist at townhall dot com and a contributor to Ford 1398 01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,040 Speaker 1: and a trial attorney Marina. First of all, you and 1399 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:25,080 Speaker 1: I have never had this conversation before. Why trial attorney 1400 01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:27,559 Speaker 1: when they are all kinds of other, different kinds of 1401 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,400 Speaker 1: attorney you could be Do you just like to brawl 1402 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:34,000 Speaker 1: it out or what? Actually, yes, that's more fun. That's 1403 01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:39,599 Speaker 1: the least surprising thing I've ever heard. Now, what kind 1404 01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,800 Speaker 1: of cases, Like I don't understand the law field at all. 1405 01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,599 Speaker 1: What kind of cases do you take? Do you refuse them? 1406 01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:49,960 Speaker 1: Do you take everybody? What? Well, you can't take everyone 1407 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,959 Speaker 1: because you have to actually budget your time for clients. 1408 01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:57,880 Speaker 1: But I particularly do criminal defense. Oh that's good because 1409 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna need one of those soon. What. What 1410 01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:05,920 Speaker 1: How does one drinking a lot during your coronavirus quarantine? Yes? Yes, yoh, yeah, 1411 01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:07,720 Speaker 1: you know. I make it a habit to break as 1412 01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,160 Speaker 1: many laws as humanly possible. You know, As speaking of 1413 01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:15,320 Speaker 1: the quarantines, how are you dealing with the education of 1414 01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,280 Speaker 1: the kids during this time? Because I will tell you, 1415 01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:21,439 Speaker 1: I understand there are a million other factors going on 1416 01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,240 Speaker 1: out there right now, but people are not talking enough 1417 01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:27,599 Speaker 1: about the stress at home that parents are going through 1418 01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:33,000 Speaker 1: figuring out how to you know, do algebra again. Well, 1419 01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:36,679 Speaker 1: I've actually invested quite a bit of time and educating 1420 01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,719 Speaker 1: myself on how to educate my daughter. So I've spent 1421 01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,120 Speaker 1: quite a bit of time already leading up to this 1422 01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:46,439 Speaker 1: working with her on every possible subject, just because my 1423 01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:50,519 Speaker 1: school was very weak in everything, and so for me, 1424 01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,360 Speaker 1: I was prepared just because I've done this before. But 1425 01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:56,599 Speaker 1: I know other parents are struggling because number one, they 1426 01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,080 Speaker 1: don't have the time, they're still working from home, and 1427 01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:02,240 Speaker 1: number two, they're not used to teaching. It's a different 1428 01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,400 Speaker 1: methodology than what you're used to in whatever field you 1429 01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,400 Speaker 1: are in, and so a lot of parents are running 1430 01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:10,080 Speaker 1: into those issues. But I leave this, you know, at 1431 01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,960 Speaker 1: the minimum and looking at the bright side, at least 1432 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,840 Speaker 1: your kid is not being brainwashed at school anymore. I mean, 1433 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,000 Speaker 1: the amount of time these teachers put into telling your 1434 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:22,679 Speaker 1: kid that they're born racist and all these other things, 1435 01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,600 Speaker 1: and that only Marxism can save the world. You know, 1436 01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,200 Speaker 1: at least you're not getting that that is effective. What 1437 01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,400 Speaker 1: is your overall take on how we as a nation 1438 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,800 Speaker 1: have handled this entire thing? Are you mortified by it? 1439 01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:37,479 Speaker 1: Like I am? Or you throw. Do you think it 1440 01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:41,120 Speaker 1: was necessary where you could fall down on all this? Well? 1441 01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,479 Speaker 1: Both in everything. I'm confused, all right. So when this 1442 01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:49,240 Speaker 1: first happened and I saw how Trump was reacting, I 1443 01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:51,800 Speaker 1: look back at Israel and I realized that everything they 1444 01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:55,040 Speaker 1: were doing, we did after them, So they'll do something 1445 01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:59,000 Speaker 1: extreme we copy. And I realized that, all right, Israel, 1446 01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, they are intelligent, They're says that 1447 01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:08,000 Speaker 1: basically what they do is counter terrorism, right, so maybe 1448 01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,320 Speaker 1: there's something we don't know. Maybe there's something else to 1449 01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,200 Speaker 1: this that it's not just a sickness, it's something else, 1450 01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:16,679 Speaker 1: something from a lab, but it's more dangerous. There's something 1451 01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,120 Speaker 1: we don't know. And so I kept an open mind. 1452 01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,000 Speaker 1: But when the data started flowing in and the percentage 1453 01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,080 Speaker 1: is kept going down and down and down, once we 1454 01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,599 Speaker 1: realized that, wait a minute, this is not as serious. 1455 01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,839 Speaker 1: This is not like a sixty percent death rate, black 1456 01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:35,720 Speaker 1: plague pandemic, it's not that at all. The numbers that 1457 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,080 Speaker 1: are coming out right now are showing this is probably 1458 01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:42,479 Speaker 1: going to be about a zero point four percent death rate. No, yes, 1459 01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,640 Speaker 1: that's hi. Those are human lives. But that's something you 1460 01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:47,519 Speaker 1: shut down a country for it. This is not a 1461 01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:51,719 Speaker 1: black plague. The amount of economic damage that is resulting 1462 01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:55,840 Speaker 1: from all this is shocking. It's astounding, and nobody cares 1463 01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:59,879 Speaker 1: about these businesses. People are pretending to care, but realistic 1464 01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:03,919 Speaker 1: they don't. I keep seeing people tweeting and on Facebook 1465 01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:07,360 Speaker 1: saying things like stay home, stay home, as if everyone 1466 01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,120 Speaker 1: has this economic advantage to just not work and just 1467 01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:14,800 Speaker 1: to rest any great. We don't have that opportunity. There's 1468 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:16,960 Speaker 1: people out there who need to work for a living 1469 01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:20,479 Speaker 1: and make ends and meet and this idea that oh, well, 1470 01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:23,120 Speaker 1: maybe their rent will be due and this and that 1471 01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,519 Speaker 1: those are fairy tales. Landlords want their rent. People have 1472 01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:30,599 Speaker 1: to pay for their lifestyle, for their food, for their 1473 01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:34,080 Speaker 1: lifestyle wipes if they can find them. How did we 1474 01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,880 Speaker 1: get here? As far as the disconnect goes, I have 1475 01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:41,519 Speaker 1: argued endlessly that this is a bubble problem. This is 1476 01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:46,200 Speaker 1: a DC New York City corridor bubble problem. And that's 1477 01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,400 Speaker 1: why all the people with opinions and platforms for the 1478 01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,840 Speaker 1: most part come from there. The policymakers come from there, 1479 01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:56,400 Speaker 1: and they're so disconnected with the rest of the country 1480 01:42:56,439 --> 01:43:00,160 Speaker 1: that that's why you see this massive gap between what 1481 01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:03,400 Speaker 1: politicians say, and what normal people say is that it 1482 01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:05,840 Speaker 1: is it more complicated, is it more simple? What is it? 1483 01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:10,800 Speaker 1: I think different people are seeing different things. So first 1484 01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:15,480 Speaker 1: of all, everyone is afraid, and people are scared into compliance. 1485 01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:18,559 Speaker 1: And so I think the politicians are hearing from their 1486 01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:21,200 Speaker 1: constituents that, yes, do what you need to do, save 1487 01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:25,680 Speaker 1: me because I'm afraid. And everyone is being uniformly misinformed. 1488 01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,800 Speaker 1: And this is the biggest problem. So I think what 1489 01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,120 Speaker 1: you're seeing is you're seeing a group of people who 1490 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:34,160 Speaker 1: want to educate themselves, who independently seek out information, and 1491 01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,439 Speaker 1: that's going to be your listener group. So people who 1492 01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:39,560 Speaker 1: listen to you and people who want to learn independent 1493 01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,320 Speaker 1: of general media or whatever the government's telling them. They're 1494 01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,880 Speaker 1: going to say and questions all of this, and they're 1495 01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:48,760 Speaker 1: going to say, this is insane, there's something off. The 1496 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,280 Speaker 1: numbers aren't adding up, this doesn't make sense. This is 1497 01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:56,040 Speaker 1: an irrational response. It's not congruent what's going on. But 1498 01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's the majority of Americans. I mean, 1499 01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:05,240 Speaker 1: as a nation, vote for what percentage of us vote 1500 01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:09,840 Speaker 1: for Hillary Clinton? And for politicians that are not ever 1501 01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,160 Speaker 1: going to be in your best interests. As an American 1502 01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:16,120 Speaker 1: so they're making rational decisions as this. I mean, I 1503 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:19,320 Speaker 1: don't expect majority of conservatives to make rational decisions out there. 1504 01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot of time people who vote conservatives 1505 01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:25,040 Speaker 1: don't vote for the right reason. So I think there's 1506 01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:28,519 Speaker 1: a lot of disconnect between all the different political groups 1507 01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:30,880 Speaker 1: of people and Americans as a whole as to what 1508 01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:35,120 Speaker 1: to do, who to listen to, and how to get 1509 01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:38,080 Speaker 1: up from under your own fear, because at the end 1510 01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:40,720 Speaker 1: of the day, people are being terrified into compliance, and 1511 01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:43,320 Speaker 1: you're just saying, yes, I'll stay home, I'll take the risks, 1512 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:45,320 Speaker 1: and I won't worry about what's going to happen in 1513 01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:47,320 Speaker 1: two months when I come out and there are no 1514 01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:51,719 Speaker 1: jobs left because all businesses had to go out of business. 1515 01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,640 Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, Is this legal? I have 1516 01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:59,559 Speaker 1: to be honest. I see a mayor pointing at this 1517 01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,120 Speaker 1: business in that business and saying, you will close. I 1518 01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:05,320 Speaker 1: see a governor deciding you will close. Oh, grocery stores, 1519 01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:08,120 Speaker 1: Oh you're allowed to open, but you can't sell mosquito 1520 01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:13,040 Speaker 1: repellent or garden seeds. And honestly, beyond necessary, not necessary, 1521 01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,880 Speaker 1: like it or hated. I've thought to myself several times 1522 01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,200 Speaker 1: there's no way that can be legal. They don't have 1523 01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,400 Speaker 1: the authority to do that, or am I wrong? And 1524 01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:27,120 Speaker 1: they do. Every state gives themselves certain authority in emergencies, 1525 01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:31,040 Speaker 1: and when there is an emergency in Trump is declaring 1526 01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:32,840 Speaker 1: an emergency in all of these states, or we've got 1527 01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:36,679 Speaker 1: fifty states declared emergency. So you've got the federal government 1528 01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,880 Speaker 1: declaring an emergency, you've got the local government's responding that way. 1529 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:43,400 Speaker 1: And they're saying this is a pandemic, which means they 1530 01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:48,120 Speaker 1: have broad authority over keeping people indoors. When it comes 1531 01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:51,679 Speaker 1: to closing down businesses, if they're saying the reason why 1532 01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:57,080 Speaker 1: is because we want to protect health and safety. Depending 1533 01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,200 Speaker 1: on the state, they probably have that authority, depend and 1534 01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:02,519 Speaker 1: how they articulated. But they're saying, well, look we don't 1535 01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,800 Speaker 1: want people going in. We're protecting people. The question isn't 1536 01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:07,879 Speaker 1: so much do they have the right to do it? 1537 01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:13,280 Speaker 1: It's more are they exercising that right properly right to 1538 01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:18,639 Speaker 1: do it? Senior columnisttownhall dot Com and award winning trial attorney, 1539 01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much for giving us some time. All right, 1540 01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:28,400 Speaker 1: bye bye, be good? How about that, Chris? These emergency powers, man, 1541 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:43,680 Speaker 1: beware the emergency powers. Feeling a little stocky follow like 1542 01:46:43,800 --> 01:47:05,840 Speaker 1: can subscribe on social at Jesse Kelly. DC producer Chris 1543 01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:10,559 Speaker 1: had a rare great point during the break that we 1544 01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:17,400 Speaker 1: still have Biden Trump debates to go into. We still 1545 01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,880 Speaker 1: get to witness those, and that is going to be Chris, 1546 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:24,120 Speaker 1: I can't decide if the country's going to love it 1547 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:25,600 Speaker 1: or hate it. And here's what I mean by that. 1548 01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:30,559 Speaker 1: Obviously everybody's going to watch. Everybody watches those debates. You 1549 01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:33,800 Speaker 1: know we're going to watch too because it's fun. But 1550 01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,559 Speaker 1: even Democrats are so everybody can see what's happening with 1551 01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:44,360 Speaker 1: Joe Biden right now. Everybody can see it. It's genuinely sad. Yesterday, 1552 01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm not even going to play the audio for you. 1553 01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:51,240 Speaker 1: Yesterday Bernie did like a side by side video thing 1554 01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,760 Speaker 1: where Bernie was obviously in his house, Biden was in 1555 01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:57,600 Speaker 1: his house, and Bernie did this thing where he was 1556 01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:00,360 Speaker 1: endorsing Joe Biden, which is the thing everybody does when 1557 01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,240 Speaker 1: they drop out. They endorsed, you know, the guy who's 1558 01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:06,599 Speaker 1: going to be the guy. At one point after Bernie 1559 01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:09,920 Speaker 1: endorsed Joe Biden and they're just talking back and forth 1560 01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:15,680 Speaker 1: on camera Joe Biden quite obviously as an answer to 1561 01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,120 Speaker 1: the question that Bernie just asked him, looks to the 1562 01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:23,200 Speaker 1: side and reads his answer to Bernie's question off the 1563 01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:28,200 Speaker 1: teleprompter that he has beside him on the camera. He 1564 01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:33,800 Speaker 1: can't even answer basic questions live. He has been resting 1565 01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,639 Speaker 1: during this entire time because you're not out there campaigning. 1566 01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,799 Speaker 1: You're not flying around, you're not traveling to and fro meals, 1567 01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,800 Speaker 1: shaking hands, kissing babies, given speeches. You're not. This is 1568 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:48,479 Speaker 1: the ultimate relaxation campaign for any presidential candidate. He should 1569 01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:53,400 Speaker 1: be in tip top shape. He cannot give a basic 1570 01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:57,840 Speaker 1: interview without just completely losing his train of thought ten 1571 01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:02,639 Speaker 1: times misspeaking. I mean, is in really, really bad shape. 1572 01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,840 Speaker 1: He's in such bad, such bad shape. I of all 1573 01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:09,080 Speaker 1: people have backed off of making fun of him. It's 1574 01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:13,160 Speaker 1: it's genuinely sad Democrats have come out and say, come on, man, 1575 01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:15,280 Speaker 1: we can't do look at it, come on, we can't 1576 01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:20,360 Speaker 1: do this. It's genuinely who hasn't known somebody or known 1577 01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:25,519 Speaker 1: someone who knows somebody going through these issues later on 1578 01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:29,120 Speaker 1: in life. It's awful to watch old people go through it. 1579 01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:33,639 Speaker 1: It's freaking awful. It's awful for them. It's stressful for them. 1580 01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,519 Speaker 1: That's why Biden yells at everybody now, it's awful for 1581 01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:39,439 Speaker 1: their loved ones to say, it's just sucks. And this 1582 01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:42,719 Speaker 1: guy is going to be the Democratic nominee for president 1583 01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:46,880 Speaker 1: of the United States of America, as his brain slowly 1584 01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:50,960 Speaker 1: becomes hot mush, which brings me to the debates I 1585 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:59,000 Speaker 1: just talked about. Donald Trump is well, Donald Trump is 1586 01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:05,519 Speaker 1: a worldly tempered junkyard dog. And what I mean by 1587 01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:13,040 Speaker 1: that is Donald Trump attacks everybody. He gives no quarter 1588 01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:17,240 Speaker 1: to anyone. Oh your gold star parents who just lost 1589 01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:19,800 Speaker 1: your son in a war, but you attack me up, 1590 01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm blasting away both barrels. Oh you're John McCain. You 1591 01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:26,640 Speaker 1: hate my guts. I hate your guts, and you attack me. 1592 01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:30,439 Speaker 1: I will stand up and say that I actually like 1593 01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,240 Speaker 1: people who weren't ever captured, which is one of the 1594 01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,920 Speaker 1: most mortifying things anybody's ever said. Even Trump's the most 1595 01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:40,360 Speaker 1: hardcore supporters are like, oh gosh, yo, that was that 1596 01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:44,560 Speaker 1: was too far. He will, like I said, he's the 1597 01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:50,320 Speaker 1: junkyard dog. He's going to one bite the bailman and 1598 01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:53,640 Speaker 1: get you sued. And in that moment, you hate that 1599 01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:59,759 Speaker 1: junkyard dog. At the same time, he's going to tear 1600 01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,600 Speaker 1: a robber's throat out one night as he tries to 1601 01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:09,160 Speaker 1: break in and hurt your kids because he attacks everybody, everybody. 1602 01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,639 Speaker 1: What I'm saying to you is you have to picture 1603 01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:17,680 Speaker 1: what's coming. Donald Trump is going to be standing on 1604 01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:23,000 Speaker 1: that debate stage with Joe Biden and the Biden campaign people. 1605 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:26,360 Speaker 1: They know what the situation is, they know how bad 1606 01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:28,760 Speaker 1: he is, so they'll do everything they can to try 1607 01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:32,520 Speaker 1: to shield him from that. But look, this is an inevitability. 1608 01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:36,599 Speaker 1: You cannot duck a presidential debate when you are your 1609 01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:42,120 Speaker 1: party's nominee. You simply cannot. Can you imagine how that's 1610 01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:46,920 Speaker 1: going to go. Even if you're one of these people 1611 01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,960 Speaker 1: who hate Donald Trump. I'm not, but even if you are. 1612 01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,679 Speaker 1: The guy is good on his feet. That's why he's 1613 01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:55,920 Speaker 1: so great at those campaign rallies. He gets up there, 1614 01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,360 Speaker 1: gives two hour speeches and he's working in the crowd, 1615 01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,640 Speaker 1: and he's good on his feet. What he does well, 1616 01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:03,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people are not even professional politicians, are 1617 01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:05,760 Speaker 1: not you. It's one of those things you have it 1618 01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:11,599 Speaker 1: or you don't. He's up there in his wheelhouse, he's 1619 01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:15,759 Speaker 1: up there doing what he does well, and he's squaring 1620 01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:20,280 Speaker 1: off against Joe Biden, who's going to misspeak and screw 1621 01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:25,720 Speaker 1: things up nine thousand times. And Donald Trump is not 1622 01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:30,240 Speaker 1: going to be merciful. Donald Trump is not going to 1623 01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:34,880 Speaker 1: let it go when Joe Biden has a moment where 1624 01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:40,000 Speaker 1: everybody says, okay that he has he quite obviously has 1625 01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:45,040 Speaker 1: dementia and this is sad. And you know, every suburban 1626 01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,639 Speaker 1: mom is at home kind of cringing and feeling bad 1627 01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:51,960 Speaker 1: for Joe. Donald Trump will not be feeling bad for Joe. 1628 01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:56,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is gonna crush him. And it's not like 1629 01:52:57,439 --> 01:52:59,400 Speaker 1: I mean, look, okay, I am looking forward to it. 1630 01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:00,960 Speaker 1: I was about to try to say, oh, I'm not 1631 01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,960 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Of course I am, but it 1632 01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:06,800 Speaker 1: is going to be looking forward to it in a 1633 01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:09,840 Speaker 1: way looking forward to seeing a car crash that you're 1634 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:16,519 Speaker 1: not involved in. Gosh, it's gonna be ugly. Oh oh, 1635 01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:19,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be ugly. You know what. I've got a 1636 01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:55,719 Speaker 1: million dollar question for you, Chris. Hey. Yeah, So here's 1637 01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:57,720 Speaker 1: the question, Chris, And I bet you they're gonna do this, 1638 01:53:57,840 --> 01:53:59,320 Speaker 1: or at least try to do this. You know, you 1639 01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:04,439 Speaker 1: can't high him from the debates. But do they try 1640 01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:07,880 Speaker 1: and use the coronavirus to hide him from the debates? 1641 01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:13,920 Speaker 1: What if? What if call me a conspiracy nutter? What 1642 01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:19,760 Speaker 1: if they come up with Joe Biden is actually his 1643 01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:24,200 Speaker 1: lungs haven't been feeling good lately. It just wouldn't be safe. 1644 01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:27,559 Speaker 1: So we'll do a debate, but it'll be in video 1645 01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:33,040 Speaker 1: form video conferencing, which gives Joe Biden the ability to 1646 01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:36,480 Speaker 1: have prompts behind the camera, to have a teleprompter, to 1647 01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:39,800 Speaker 1: have things. It gives him. Look, it's he's still going 1648 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:43,760 Speaker 1: to be exposed, but it gives you much much more 1649 01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:47,120 Speaker 1: of an ability to cover for him. You watch, I 1650 01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:50,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't at all be surprised to watch them try to 1651 01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:54,160 Speaker 1: use coronavirus as an excuse. Well, look we can't. Look, 1652 01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:58,040 Speaker 1: he's been he had a fever yesterday. We can't. We 1653 01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,080 Speaker 1: can't risk it. Or maybe they agreed to the debate 1654 01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:03,200 Speaker 1: and then pull out a day or two ahead of time. 1655 01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:06,160 Speaker 1: Oh he's not feeling well. We can't, we can't take 1656 01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:11,640 Speaker 1: any chances. You can email me Jesse at Jesse Kelly 1657 01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:14,560 Speaker 1: show dot com or the whole show. It will be 1658 01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:22,120 Speaker 1: available immediately after on iHeart Google, Spotify, Apple, enjoy it all, 1659 01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,480 Speaker 1: Enjoy your evening. We are going to be back to 1660 01:55:24,600 --> 01:56:36,080 Speaker 1: rock and ruin some more tomorrow. That's all. This is 1661 01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:40,000 Speaker 1: a Jesse Kelly show. 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