Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of week
Speaker 1: Trend Update two indictment Boogalooo those are still cool, right
Speaker 1: and electric boogoloo references.
Speaker 2: You're gonna do two indictment too, fur Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: know what are we doing? Get past like five. When
Speaker 2: we don't like those naming conventions for like multiple sequels die,
Speaker 2: we'll give up on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe or it's like week Trend Update sixteen, not what
Speaker 2: I mean, Week Trend Update xex.
Speaker 1: I was having some fun Roman numeral conversations with my
Speaker 1: kids this weekend.
Speaker 3: Wow, dude, your kids are on Roman numerals already.
Speaker 1: Our seven year old is a real math guy, so wow.
Speaker 2: Oh and he's like into history and stuff, so he's
Speaker 2: probably seeing Roman numerals and he's like, what is this stuff?
Speaker 3: It's like are these letters? I found out?
Speaker 1: By the way, I gave his school credit for like
Speaker 1: teaching him the truth about but World War two? World
Speaker 1: War two? It wasn't his school, it was his Eastern
Speaker 1: year p and chess tutor who we work with on
Speaker 1: online like we do zoom lessons, and she's the one
Speaker 1: she was like teaching a military.
Speaker 3: Part of like chest Oh man, he's on that chess
Speaker 3: life too.
Speaker 1: He's real. Yeah, he destroys me in chess. That's really embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Are you like afraid he's just like he's like an
Speaker 2: Ai who's just gonna like consume you at a certain point.
Speaker 2: Like he's so advanced, he's into Roman numerals, he's chest champion,
Speaker 2: he's he already knows about the truth about World War Two.
Speaker 1: I caught him mirroring me out of the corner of
Speaker 1: my eye and just like kind of adopting a bunch
Speaker 1: of gestures that I'm doing.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's just.
Speaker 1: How parenting works or if he's not going to just
Speaker 1: take me over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's our fate, you know, our parents on some level.
Speaker 1: Dark fate. Which movie has a dark fate?
Speaker 3: Movie? Is that? Is that? Transformers? I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's no way to Norminator Terminator. Yeah, it's so sad
Speaker 1: that the Terminator franchise is indistinguishable.
Speaker 3: From from Transformers.
Speaker 1: Transformers in my brain. The Transformers had a good showing
Speaker 1: at the domestic box office this weekend. That was basically
Speaker 1: all that happened. Not much else since we last spoke
Speaker 1: to you guys.
Speaker 3: Was it bafo or no?
Speaker 1: It was No, it wasn't boffo. It performed above very
Speaker 1: limited expectations and be tive boffo boffo zero. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: beat Across Spider Versus second Weekend, which a lot of
Speaker 1: people didn't think it was going to do. But I
Speaker 1: told you man, that movie the idea of robotic animals
Speaker 1: makes no sense, but really hits the seven year old
Speaker 1: brain correctly, just explodes it.
Speaker 2: I think the other thing I read was at the
Speaker 2: Across the Spider Verse, it already made all the money
Speaker 2: that into the Spider Verse made.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just passed. Oh okay, this is a good
Speaker 3: it's crazing.
Speaker 2: I think people slept on the first one a little
Speaker 2: bit for sure, like it was one of those things.
Speaker 3: After that, I was one of those people who came
Speaker 3: late to the part and it was like, this is
Speaker 3: fucking this is amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't go chout out to Caitlyn Durante because she
Speaker 1: was super onto. That was evangelical about getting people to
Speaker 1: see that first one. And I can't wait to have
Speaker 1: her on to hear her thoughts on the second. She's
Speaker 1: done it, and you would have we have plans to
Speaker 1: see the second Across Spider Verse this weekend, so still
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. But when you have kids, it takes
Speaker 1: like a whole, a whole planning thing.
Speaker 3: I hear you, Jack, I hear you, Man.
Speaker 1: This is Dad Brock. Increasingly this show is dad talk.
Speaker 1: I didn't see, by the way, Past Lives this past
Speaker 1: weekend so good. My brain doesn't like I can't even
Speaker 1: talk about it. But I was in the theater. Yeah
Speaker 1: it was. It was really good. I highly recommend. All right,
Speaker 1: but the big news from the weekend you got in
Speaker 1: dieted folks, double as you said, Trump indicted double LP
Speaker 1: world excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, not so fast lips, not
Speaker 2: so fucking fast, because I know we saw it, and
Speaker 2: I remember Thursday night, I was like, oh shit, but
Speaker 2: part of me was like, let's see the indictment come out.
Speaker 2: Let's see everything, and like then I'll figure out how
Speaker 2: I feel about it. So thirty seven counts dealing with
Speaker 2: obstruction the Espionage Act for our boy Donnie and also
Speaker 2: his body man Walt Nauda, who is like these transcripts
Speaker 2: just read as like him, be like, move the bucks
Speaker 2: is there, get them away here, move them over there,
Speaker 2: breaking laak law for me, dude. The indictment is wild
Speaker 2: in that they are basically using all of just his
Speaker 2: Trump's own words and the words of like his own
Speaker 2: people against him as like the most damning evidence. It's
Speaker 2: not like from you know, like outside investigators, like now he.
Speaker 3: Said this, then he did this, then this is what
Speaker 3: his lawyer said.
Speaker 2: And the picture of like where the documents were held
Speaker 2: or like like a parody of themselves, because people were
Speaker 2: saying like they were just in these like legal boxes
Speaker 2: strewn about like in a bathroom, in a shower stall,
Speaker 2: on a ballroom stage, and the pictures are like it
Speaker 2: looks like some shit I would have done in college,
Speaker 2: Like would just been like, yeah, just put everything in
Speaker 2: the fucking bathroom so nobody can see it for right now.
Speaker 2: And yeah, we also have a tape of him literally
Speaker 2: saying like this is secret, look at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like.
Speaker 2: Too, you gotta check it out. I used to be
Speaker 2: it's like I could declassify these when I was president.
Speaker 2: Now not so much, indicating that this thing is not declassified,
Speaker 2: therefore you probably shouldn't look at it. And then there's
Speaker 2: like a apparently there was an aid who after that
Speaker 2: realization was like verbalized was like okay, so I think
Speaker 2: we have a problem now because even this aid knew.
Speaker 2: It's like, you can't those are military plans.
Speaker 1: He's breaking the law in a room with people who
Speaker 1: are like stop breaking the law.
Speaker 3: Law being broken, and he's he's yeah.
Speaker 2: He was like almost doing the things that you want
Speaker 2: to see, naked pictures of my mother and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know about you know, this is I don't
Speaker 2: know why even mentioned that, and that's not necessary I
Speaker 2: need to see or I'm interested in.
Speaker 3: It's not good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the pictures are amazing. The pictures really make
Speaker 1: me feel better. Like you said about like my living situation,
Speaker 1: hat my document, my top secret document storage in my life,
Speaker 1: you know, just shit lying around. There's also the text.
Speaker 1: There's the text from Malania. People think it was from
Speaker 1: Malania that was in the indictment where she was like
Speaker 1: just wanted you to know Potus wants to bring the
Speaker 1: Potus documents on the flight, but we won't have room
Speaker 1: for them because of luggage. Just just messy, like literally
Speaker 1: just messy. They are messy people, slapty messy people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very sloppy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean like you see all that, You're like, okay,
Speaker 2: this this looks juicy. I mean everybody, it was funny,
Speaker 2: Like on MSNBC all day Friday, they were like giggling
Speaker 2: reading the transcripts.
Speaker 3: Go to page sixteen.
Speaker 2: They're like, I'm barely getting through anything right now, like
Speaker 2: and then anyway, they're all celebrating.
Speaker 3: But I was like, who's gonna be the judge? What's yeah?
Speaker 3: What's like? Where? Like?
Speaker 2: What are all the details here? So there's tapes from
Speaker 2: Trump's own fucking lawyer. Two of his lawyers fucking resigned
Speaker 2: like after the indictment came through, and you're like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: he barely has any legal representation. This is gonna get good.
Speaker 2: But the first and most frightening thing that should keep
Speaker 2: the liberals out there from dancing in the streets to
Speaker 2: Kings of Leon with their MPR tote bags is to
Speaker 2: point out the judge who was this. I don't know
Speaker 2: why I picked Kings of Leon.
Speaker 1: Oh Man, because I was just telling you before we
Speaker 1: started recording that have you heard this song where it's
Speaker 1: like your sex is on fire, so edgy, so fun
Speaker 1: so you own me?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah? While you were You're swinging and.
Speaker 1: Crazy, dude, like what I do do? Rock my MPR
Speaker 1: tote with a cuff in the crease exactly, with.
Speaker 3: A tilted brim. So the other thing.
Speaker 2: So Eileen Cannon, the judge who was there for the
Speaker 2: like document scand when it kicked off, that's who he
Speaker 2: was assigned.
Speaker 3: He's right back with his own appointee overseeing this trial.
Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure I think she's younger than you.
Speaker 1: Jack, Yeah, she's uh, I think like right my age.
Speaker 1: She graduated the same year that I did from college.
Speaker 2: Wow, and look at us opposite sides of the coin now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like if you remember in the when the
Speaker 2: document scandal first broke out, she basically did everything in
Speaker 2: her power to tilt the scale in Trump's favor to
Speaker 2: the point where like all legal experts, even like conservators,
Speaker 2: are like, this is a little fucking gross, Like this
Speaker 2: is not good. Like she was like, FBI, you cannot
Speaker 2: look at the documents, even though, like you, this is
Speaker 2: part of your investigation. I'm assigning a special master to
Speaker 2: try and delay things.
Speaker 3: And then the phrase special master.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the special master was like, uh, this
Speaker 2: is pretty wild. Like I actually would need to hear
Speaker 2: from Donald Trump to kind of explain the context of
Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff, and she's like, no, you don't,
Speaker 2: You're not gonna do that, and then she went against
Speaker 2: him and then basically she got like smacked down by
Speaker 2: an appeals court fucking twice during that whole thing.
Speaker 3: So now she's.
Speaker 2: Here with tremendous power over this trial, and a lot
Speaker 2: of people are like, maybe she'll recuse herself, but like
Speaker 2: she can do any dude. She can fucking dismiss the
Speaker 2: fun She can dismiss the case after the prosecution presents
Speaker 2: their case and it's unreviewable, Like she could literally just
Speaker 2: go like boom, smoke bomb, it's over. Haha.
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, it can't be like thrown to an
Speaker 1: appeals court.
Speaker 2: No, No, she would basically be taking over like for
Speaker 2: the jury to basically like I've seen enough. You didn't
Speaker 2: present anything that's efferent, like, and that's that's scary. A
Speaker 2: lot of people think she won't go that far, but like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like everything is on the line for
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, but I mean he has multiple I guess
Speaker 2: that's why there's multiple cases against him. Oh and then
Speaker 2: the other thing is like she could delay the trial
Speaker 2: till after the election, in which case maybe if there's
Speaker 2: a Republican that wins, that might come to save Trump
Speaker 2: or maybe Trump himself comes to save himself. And even
Speaker 2: just over like the jury' selection, she can also you know,
Speaker 2: look the other way when there might be clearly like
Speaker 2: you know, someone in like a QAnon T shirt would
Speaker 2: like like said that I like I met JFK Junior
Speaker 2: today on and she'd be like, yeah, yeah, that person
Speaker 2: looks good.
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So in the indictment, I haven't had a chance
Speaker 1: to read all thirty seven pages without like my eyes
Speaker 1: crossing in boredom. But ye, is there a plan? Like
Speaker 1: do they have any motive for why he was holding
Speaker 1: onto the documents?
Speaker 3: Like what?
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I don't know, just have lived
Speaker 1: through and like done this show through the impeachment where
Speaker 1: what he did was far worse than Watergate, right, he
Speaker 1: was like basically being like it would be a shame
Speaker 1: if you know, he didn't get the military aid you need,
Speaker 1: you need to you know, try and find a compromise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: another example of cheating on the twenty twenty election, basically
Speaker 1: but in advance and like we don't really talk about
Speaker 1: that anymore. It was like that, Yeah, the impeachment just happened,
Speaker 1: he was impeached, and we don't really talk about that anymore.
Speaker 1: It kind of didn't touch him. So I am just
Speaker 1: like wondering, like, because he's going to be going full blast.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about this clip that he stole from air
Speaker 1: in a second. He's going to be going full blast,
Speaker 1: and like I'm being politically persecuted.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And like I feel like.
Speaker 1: They need to have some narrative, like the people who
Speaker 1: are trying to use this to make him not be
Speaker 1: the president in twenty twenty four need to like have
Speaker 1: a story to tell, like where he like what he
Speaker 1: is trying to do in this case that is not
Speaker 1: just like he was sloppy with documents that nobody like
Speaker 1: really cares about in the end, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is they're doing it under this
Speaker 2: statute where merely just having them is the crime, right,
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't doesn't need to be any other
Speaker 2: intent with it.
Speaker 3: Aside from the fact that it's classified.
Speaker 2: You can't have them, and you have them, and you're
Speaker 2: also showing willfully that you know you can't have them,
Speaker 2: and you're doing everything you can to like play keep
Speaker 2: away from investigators when they ask you about boxes, because
Speaker 2: like the way like boxes and documents are trickling down,
Speaker 2: it just clearly felt it like Okay, give them like
Speaker 2: a little bit of that chunk over there, but not
Speaker 2: the good stuff and say that's it kind.
Speaker 3: Of a thing.
Speaker 2: I think the more most cynical one where people saying,
Speaker 2: like who did they sell this to?
Speaker 3: Right, that's that's what.
Speaker 2: That's the question that potentially is like the most damning
Speaker 2: is that like, no, he held onto this because he
Speaker 2: knew he could cash this in as like a chip.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It seems like for legal purposes, what they have right
Speaker 1: now is enough. I think for political purposes, it would
Speaker 1: be really helpful if like somewhere somewhere along the line
Speaker 1: they could establish motive or you know some at least
Speaker 1: like do some reporting to suggest like what was he
Speaker 1: doing holding onto these other than just it being the
Speaker 1: equivalent of a Evander Holyfield signed box and glove that
Speaker 1: he like gets to show off in his office.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I think like they're just they're going for the efficient,
Speaker 2: tidy thing, where like this is the same thing he
Speaker 2: was cheering when like reality Winner was like also charged
Speaker 2: under the Espionage Act and he's like, yeah, you got
Speaker 2: to do that you got it, Like you can't have
Speaker 2: these documents. They even have him quoting that even with
Speaker 2: like Hillary Clinton, and they're like, he knows, he knows,
Speaker 2: he knows he.
Speaker 3: Can't have it, and he has it.
Speaker 2: And I think for them trying to prove anything else
Speaker 2: is maybe a bridge too far when they know it's like, bro,
Speaker 2: we got him right here on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But again, I think in the court of public opinion,
Speaker 2: who knows what the fuck?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know if that's going to sway anybody,
Speaker 2: because everybody is either like, please get.
Speaker 3: Him out of here, or other people like I don't.
Speaker 2: Care if he's indicted, Yeah, he's my president, because I
Speaker 2: think that there's some like eighty percent of Republicans are
Speaker 2: truly on the ray j A, I don't care, Yeah,
Speaker 2: if he's indicted. So I don't know who we're convincing
Speaker 2: except for maybe like a jury. But again, this goes
Speaker 2: back to the trial. Right, there's other dynamics that play.
Speaker 2: Just there's like the Florida of it all, because you're
Speaker 2: down there, you're not in you're like the pool of
Speaker 2: voters you have.
Speaker 3: There's a good change. I mean, it's it's pretty split.
Speaker 2: I mean, Biden won by like a couple hundred thousand votes,
Speaker 2: but it's gonna be You're gonna have all kinds of
Speaker 2: interesting people in that jury pool. And it's not a
Speaker 2: far fetched idea to think. All it takes is one
Speaker 2: maga person to like get in there and just say
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna save Donald Trunk from persecution and just
Speaker 2: be the holdout who causes like a hung jury and
Speaker 2: then just like, yeah, all right, so I did my part.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things that still can go
Speaker 2: wrong for this.
Speaker 3: I think before.
Speaker 2: People probably really think yeah, yeah, yeah, that that that
Speaker 2: this is like open and shut.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and here, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: well we'll be right back. We'll keep talking about this.
Speaker 3: And we're back and yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, so, I like, it's weird, like my my
Speaker 1: brain has been poisoned by the last eight six years,
Speaker 1: however long it's been since he's been like a serious,
Speaker 1: serious political you know figure, not serious but serious because
Speaker 1: we have to take him seriously because he has an
Speaker 1: immense amount of power. But you know, so it's fucked
Speaker 1: up that he's shifted the overdom window to the degree
Speaker 1: that like he's doing.
Speaker 3: Like the thing that they got Nixon.
Speaker 1: For with Watergate is like so minor compared to like
Speaker 1: that he is just shedding watergates on a daily basis
Speaker 1: throughout his presidency, throughout the aftermath of his presidency.
Speaker 3: It sucks that it's that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then like you like you said, like it's
Speaker 1: not going to make a difference to his most maga
Speaker 1: brained supporters because you know, they're just going to go
Speaker 1: with them on whatever.
Speaker 3: Right, like they they they're going to say it's it's
Speaker 3: just corrupt.
Speaker 1: This massive scaffolding of conspiracy theories that can hop in
Speaker 1: and explain anything.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Like even Jim Jordan, he like he was on CNN
Speaker 2: not making sense too, like defending him on that very
Speaker 2: similar thing of like, well I trust the president. He
Speaker 2: says it's declassified that It's like that's okay.
Speaker 1: Fine, yeah, But when it comes to like if he's
Speaker 1: the actual nominee right for the Republican Party, and like
Speaker 1: his whole appeal is that he doesn't follow rules and
Speaker 1: is anti establishment, and this whole case is built around
Speaker 1: him not following the rules and being anti establishment, and
Speaker 1: like if we have just you know, if people are
Speaker 1: tired enough of Biden seeming to not be able to,
Speaker 1: you know, do anything against Yeah, stay awake, affect to
Speaker 1: anything against like the big corporate power establishment. Like I
Speaker 1: could see there being enough frustration and this, I don't know,
Speaker 1: adding to Trump's whole appeal.
Speaker 3: Like that's why I just I don't know. I've always
Speaker 3: been a.
Speaker 1: Little bit dubious of this one other than like showing
Speaker 1: that he is not a serious person to quote succession,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's dealing with these documents like it
Speaker 1: like putting them in the ballroom at Mar a Lago
Speaker 1: while they're having parties at Mar Alago and just like
Speaker 1: using it as a flex like his own personal money phone.
Speaker 1: Is like how many classified documents he fucking has? Right,
Speaker 1: And so that's crazy. It proves he's not serious. But
Speaker 1: like also if it's just sloppiness, like he does have
Speaker 1: the retort that like Biden had boxes of classified documents
Speaker 1: next to his corvette. So like it's the it's the
Speaker 1: willful obstruction of it that that has to come into effect,
Speaker 1: And like I need a reason for the wilful obstruction
Speaker 1: other than him saying fuck you to the intelligence and
Speaker 1: security establishment. Because I also don't mind someone saying fuck
Speaker 1: you to the intelligence in some security establishment. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just like it also feels like we've
Speaker 1: been burned before by these moments where everybody in the
Speaker 1: mainstream media gets giddy about how fucked Trump is and
Speaker 1: then you know, and then it feels like the same, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been raising off of it.
Speaker 2: I totally get that, But I think it's like, on
Speaker 2: one thing, right, it's like we've seen people go down
Speaker 2: who are like whistleblowers, who are trying to do something
Speaker 2: for the public good and get slammed on this shit
Speaker 2: in the same way. So it's like, on one level,
Speaker 2: you're like, what has to fucking cut both ways, like
Speaker 2: or else?
Speaker 3: This is total bullshit.
Speaker 2: But I think the bigger issue is that fun this
Speaker 2: is like a larger political problem, right, Yeah, And the
Speaker 2: reason we're still here too is because the Republicans just
Speaker 2: won't fucking put this dude down like they put like
Speaker 2: they absolutely could, but because he has the power, like
Speaker 2: he has the base, they are completely like, ah, I
Speaker 2: guess we just keep fucking going along with this shit
Speaker 2: as it gets worse and worse and worse. But there's
Speaker 2: so many things that we could be doing outside of
Speaker 2: just trying to get him in jail, that could potentially,
Speaker 2: you know, prevent another person like this from coming to power,
Speaker 2: like you know, through like like voting.
Speaker 3: Rights and shit like that.
Speaker 2: Right, So it's kind of it's it's complex in that way,
Speaker 2: but it's also kind of like this feels like this
Speaker 2: thing where like no one in the political arena wants
Speaker 2: to do the hard works, like of just being like
Speaker 2: we have to just take all of his influence away
Speaker 2: and not align ourselves with him and just whatever comes
Speaker 2: when that comes with that. I don't know how potent
Speaker 2: of a solution that would be. But it also feels
Speaker 2: like again Republicans have been waiting for something too, just
Speaker 2: to be like, when is this fucking case gonna happen
Speaker 2: that just fucking rids us of this guy.
Speaker 3: Please, we don't know any other way to handle this.
Speaker 2: And yeah, to your point about like Nixon, it's like
Speaker 2: that fucking scene in Willow where like they start rolling
Speaker 2: down the hill like on the snow and then it
Speaker 2: becomes a gigantic snowball by the bottom. Because like first
Speaker 2: it starts with Nixon. It's like a couple of things
Speaker 2: here and then you get like Reagan, and it starts
Speaker 2: getting fucking wilder, and then you get like Bush, and
Speaker 2: then it's like what the fuck uh? And then inevitably
Speaker 2: you get this gigantic snowball in the form of Trump, where.
Speaker 3: He's like, you, guys want to see some secret documents.
Speaker 3: You can't see them.
Speaker 2: Their secret anyway, this is our plan to attack I
Speaker 2: ran I just sold it to Saudi Arabia for like
Speaker 2: three bills.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Like, from a narrative perspective of the cases he's facing,
Speaker 1: the Georgia case, like where he legitimately and openly tried
Speaker 1: to cheat to win the presidential election, feels like the
Speaker 1: one that like any possible swing voter who could like
Speaker 1: come over to his side, like might be compelled by
Speaker 1: And the indictments on that one are expected to drop
Speaker 1: in August, so he's definitely in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 1: It's just like we've seen him be impervious to this
Speaker 1: sort of thing.
Speaker 2: And can these indictments affect his ability to run and
Speaker 2: get votes? Yeah, none of it. Yeah, not a single thing.
Speaker 2: I think that's the big thing to remember, because all
Speaker 2: of his crimes are done so blatantly out in the open.
Speaker 2: You don't need like discovery or like a trial to
Speaker 2: begin to understand like what exactly went down. Like he
Speaker 2: says all this shit out loud and immediately you're either
Speaker 2: going to be turned off by it and be like
Speaker 2: this is absolutely nonsense, or you're gonna be like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, fucking show him.
Speaker 2: So it's it's hard to think that like even like
Speaker 2: to the point with this, like what could be the
Speaker 2: more you know, appealing or sexier narrative around the this
Speaker 2: documents thing with mar A Lago.
Speaker 3: It's like, that's not gonna matter.
Speaker 2: Like you could again, you could have him on tape
Speaker 2: and like, hey, Mohammed bin Selman, So I got these
Speaker 2: secret documents for you, baby. Uh got him on a
Speaker 2: jump drive? Where should I drop him off? Where's my
Speaker 2: duffel bag full of cash selling America's secrets.
Speaker 3: It's just not gonna it won't matter. Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 1: That one would though, Like if he's actively I just
Speaker 1: think there's a difference between him being fuck you to
Speaker 1: the security establishment and him actively like undermining America's security.
Speaker 1: So I do I do feel like it is worthwhile
Speaker 1: for the investigators or you know, journalists who are digging
Speaker 1: in covering this to establish like what he was doing
Speaker 1: with them, why he was doing anything with them other
Speaker 1: than just like flexing on people.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the thing many people are pointing
Speaker 2: out to is like you know, they're like this, this
Speaker 2: just puts everybody at risk who tries to get this
Speaker 2: kind of information. Uh, and so that's like the big
Speaker 2: ding on on you know Trump in that sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But oh, one thing I was gonna say, is one
Speaker 2: of the documents that Trump is referencing like in those tapes,
Speaker 2: his lawyers can't find it.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, like.
Speaker 1: It is just we may hold me up sweatily in
Speaker 1: his pocket, who knows.
Speaker 2: Or maybe someone It would be wild though to be
Speaker 2: to think that, like like if he was selling them.
Speaker 3: He's like, okay, and here's the original.
Speaker 2: Copy, Like you'd think he just take a picture or something,
Speaker 2: just like I'll give you the infuts, like I'm gonna
Speaker 2: keep the fucking document though, He's like, I'll give you
Speaker 2: the information, but I want that shit. Yeah, So I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe he really does have it in his pocket,
Speaker 2: or maybe he it's like stock X, like it got
Speaker 2: verified and then now someone from another nation is now
Speaker 2: holding onto the verified document.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I have no doubt that his brain works
Speaker 1: in a way that the thing he was trying to
Speaker 1: do was sel The's or you know, get like trade
Speaker 1: access to them for various favors like that. So that's
Speaker 1: just like what I'm hoping eventually gets revealed here because
Speaker 1: I think that would undermine him a little bit more
Speaker 1: than just like you broke the rules, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the part where they probably don't
Speaker 2: have maybe don't have enough evidence to go down that road.
Speaker 3: But again, we don't know what they have.
Speaker 2: We only have this like sort of talking indictment that
Speaker 2: we saw at the end of last week, so there's
Speaker 2: there could be plenty more, so who knows, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we shall see.
Speaker 1: Do you see his use of the quote from the
Speaker 1: movie Air? He like took Matt Damon's monologue from Air.
Speaker 2: I only saw the headlines that said, like Matt Damon
Speaker 2: and Beneffleck were like, we did not consent to this
Speaker 2: being used.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was Reagan using Born in the USA
Speaker 1: all over again. But right, Yeah, So the video features
Speaker 1: dramatic shots of Trump walking next to a helicopter speaking
Speaker 1: at rallies praying, all while we hear Matt Damon's character,
Speaker 1: a Nike executive, pitching his product to Jordan, and the
Speaker 1: speech in the movie you still haven't seen Air, right, No, No,
Speaker 1: The speech of the movie is the climb. It's the
Speaker 1: climax of the movie. And it always like felt really
Speaker 1: weird and out of place. So like they're pitching Jordan
Speaker 1: he comes into the Nike offices, They're like showing him
Speaker 1: a highlight reel of his clips from college played to
Speaker 1: like a yacht rock soundtrack, and he's like out on it.
Speaker 1: And then Matt Damon's character is like, look, man and
Speaker 1: like gives this really like heartfelt speech about how like
Speaker 1: you're gonna be the greatest player in the world, and
Speaker 1: then like once you're at your peak, everyone's gonna start
Speaker 1: trying to tear you down, and like it's really about
Speaker 1: like what you do in that moment when you're at
Speaker 1: the height of power and everyone's trying to tear you down,
Speaker 1: and it's just such a weird like that that was
Speaker 1: in retrospect now because like I've been trying to make
Speaker 1: sense of like why I don't like Air as much
Speaker 1: as everybody else for the past.
Speaker 3: Couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Right, It's it's so weird because like Jordan was as
Speaker 1: beloved and as free from criticism and turbulence as any
Speaker 1: iconic figure in like modern pop culture history. Like compare
Speaker 1: me to like Muhammad Ali before him, or Lebron since
Speaker 1: like everybody's rooting for Jordan, and.
Speaker 3: He made a point to not rock the boat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like that was you were never going
Speaker 2: to hear him give you like a hot take on
Speaker 2: some shit.
Speaker 3: It He's like, oh, just give me my fucking checks,
Speaker 3: let me play.
Speaker 1: His career was like if Tiger Woods never had the
Speaker 1: sex scandal. It was just like everyone was just like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you're the best and we love you, Like can we
Speaker 1: hang out with you? We want to wear whatever you're wearing,
Speaker 1: even though your sense of fashion.
Speaker 3: My head, I got a ring too, I got a
Speaker 3: hearing too. Cool.
Speaker 1: Right, So anyways, it stuck out to me as like
Speaker 1: being weird and kind of coming out of nowhere. But
Speaker 1: so it does kind of like it's just a good
Speaker 1: example of how Trump is going to play this, as
Speaker 1: like he's being politically persecuted for doing something that's against
Speaker 1: the rules that nobody cares about. Really, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know like it he did do it again. This
Speaker 1: just completely plays into like the crime he committed here
Speaker 1: is that he just like used it without any permission
Speaker 1: or any thought as to like getting permission from the
Speaker 1: movie to use the cliff.
Speaker 3: Who is the one make who's thinking of? Like did
Speaker 3: Trump see air? You think? No?
Speaker 1: You know it's got to be some probably like generated
Speaker 1: in one of the forums or something like that.
Speaker 3: Like oh oh, this isn't like from his campaign it is.
Speaker 1: But like I'm sure he found it somewhere.
Speaker 2: Oh got you re true thing? I mean, who knows,
Speaker 2: I mean, I get they're probably all just they're like, man,
Speaker 2: that shit is so dope because Trump is like Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan and they again, it does show you what the
Speaker 2: perspective is for him and his supporters. It's a it's
Speaker 2: a haters versus baller's narrative. Yeah, it's not a morality
Speaker 2: thing or a legal thing. No, you're balling out of control,
Speaker 2: literally you're out of control, and uh, they just they
Speaker 2: hate you. Yeah, and that's all it is, man, Just
Speaker 2: like Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they didn't even cut like that. They edit
Speaker 1: it for time, but they also keep the line a
Speaker 1: shoe is just a shoe until someone steps into.
Speaker 3: It, which is very specific to the movie because.
Speaker 2: The part that they the operative part is the linery.
Speaker 2: He's like, you're gonna change the fucking world. But you
Speaker 2: know what, once they build you as high as they
Speaker 2: possibly can, they're gonna tear you back down.
Speaker 3: I like that they did the but a shoe is
Speaker 3: just a shoe until.
Speaker 1: Someone steps into air Jordan Anyways, that.
Speaker 2: Should have been for Ron DeSantis talking about him wearing
Speaker 2: those big cowboy boots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like, they want to talk about my boots.
Speaker 2: Well, guy, what a shoe is just a shoe until
Speaker 2: someone steps into it?
Speaker 1: Onto it in my case because it is one foot
Speaker 1: in the air and I need to step onto an
Speaker 1: apple box to even get into my shoes. Oh Rob, Yeah, Rob,
Speaker 1: we'll see.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's it's nice to see. I mean,
Speaker 2: apparently it's all Trump is not happy. So there's that,
Speaker 2: so you could that's that's that's a little bit of
Speaker 2: a treat I guess you can have is that he's
Speaker 2: definitely not feeling good. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: there's all there's a lot, there's so many variables like
Speaker 2: any other lawyer be like, hey, man, you might want to.
Speaker 3: Take a plea here, bro, Yeah, but not this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's unhappy.
Speaker 1: And yet I feel like that is when he thrives,
Speaker 1: is in conflict, like as opposed to like this would
Speaker 1: kill Ron DeSantis, like he would he would just oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and he would wither away like the guy at the
Speaker 1: end of Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade.
Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis has too much of a knowledge of like
Speaker 2: the legal system to not be shook by seeing that,
Speaker 2: whereas Trump is like, I don't know, Daddy would always
Speaker 2: pay for me to get away with stuff. And when
Speaker 2: you're operating from that place, then like you're kind of
Speaker 2: you're protecting your psyche from real damage of the consequences
Speaker 2: when you're used to just being like, oh, pivot off
Speaker 2: of this and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Just lie, all right, Let's take one more break and
Speaker 1: we'll come back and talk about a couple other non
Speaker 1: Trump stories from the weekend. And we're back, and Tony
Speaker 1: Awards went on with no scripts. Thank god. We can
Speaker 1: talk about how much we were all watching the ship
Speaker 1: out of the Tony Awards.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so it wasn't the seventy sixth Aniel Awards
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I know that, no clue. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not up on the world of theater infamously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of people look.
Speaker 3: To me for that.
Speaker 2: And uh, this ain't your king you're looking for because
Speaker 2: he don't like the stage. That's right, it's the Shrek musical,
Speaker 2: which was actually pretty good.
Speaker 3: I just like it.
Speaker 2: So the w GA strike is happening, which means pens
Speaker 2: down and nobody's writing whatsoever. Although like low key you
Speaker 2: know in the industry there people are doing more like
Speaker 2: scab shit were like things that used to be union
Speaker 2: like type of awards shows. They'd be like, it's actually
Speaker 2: non union now. So if a producer wants to come
Speaker 2: and think of lines to say, we'll pay you.
Speaker 3: There anyway, all that to say is no one's writing.
Speaker 2: And I guess the Tony Awards went they actually said
Speaker 2: that's fine.
Speaker 3: Everything will be improvised, yes.
Speaker 1: Like, which is impossible when you know, like how complicated,
Speaker 1: uh like you have to coordinate all the camera moves
Speaker 1: you have to uh yeah. So it opens with the
Speaker 1: host saying tonight is unscripted. Darling's uh and insisting that
Speaker 1: the only words on the teleprompter would be please wrap up,
Speaker 1: and then holding up a script that was blank, uh,
Speaker 1: which is a joke that someone apparently didn't have to write.
Speaker 1: That was just something that she came up with on
Speaker 1: the spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also like very Trumpian and that like you
Speaker 2: do have writers, but you're doing this thing and be
Speaker 2: like and then show a script with no words on it.
Speaker 3: Yes, and they can't believe that.
Speaker 2: We had fucking we were paying people to fucking write
Speaker 2: this or whatever forced people do.
Speaker 3: Oh no, well wait, so I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does sound like a nightmare logistically to produce
Speaker 2: a live award show and not have any sense of
Speaker 2: the timing for what people are gonna say, unless it
Speaker 2: was so rigid, like person, comes on, you get to
Speaker 2: say a couple things, then get to opening the fucking envelope, announce,
Speaker 2: and then move on type of shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a seven minute dance number up top,
Speaker 1: so it couldn't have been that rigid. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's so when the awards were handed out, some
Speaker 1: of the recipients were themselves WGA members and took the
Speaker 1: opportunity to call attention to the strike, which was actually
Speaker 1: by design because like, behind the scenes of the show,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of negotiations happening where like the
Speaker 1: WGA was at first telling their members not to even
Speaker 1: go to the show, but then they agreed they wouldn't
Speaker 1: pick it the award.
Speaker 3: If you don't use a script. Okay, you don't use
Speaker 3: the script.
Speaker 1: But then the Dramatists Guild, which represents play writes, composers,
Speaker 1: and lyricists, met with the nominees and convinced them to
Speaker 1: just go to the awards but voice support for the writers.
Speaker 3: So it's all, yeah, that is like.
Speaker 1: A recurring nightmare of having to do a show and
Speaker 1: like not having any of the like lines memorized, or
Speaker 1: like not the script being blank or you know, like
Speaker 1: that sort of thing is like is a It feels
Speaker 1: like a stress dream come to life, like doing an
Speaker 1: award seriously without a single thing written down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel bad for everybody who was on the
Speaker 2: crew of that producing an all improvised award show. Uh
Speaker 2: but I mean, Leah Ziching, did you see it? Did
Speaker 2: it feel improvised? Did it feel a little produced? Let
Speaker 2: us know, because I for one, do not have time
Speaker 2: to watch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah I didn't either, but good to see them, good
Speaker 3: to see them pretend.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, I want to I want
Speaker 2: to give them the benefit of the doubt. And everyone
Speaker 2: did their damnedest to give one hell of an improvised
Speaker 2: award show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, celebrating the arts is not the it's
Speaker 1: not the worst thing in the world. But yeah, we
Speaker 1: obviously don't want this to be the new the new
Speaker 1: norm where they're now like yeah, they're now like but
Speaker 1: it's improvised.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, it's like yeah, and it's all like
Speaker 2: UCB and like Groundling's improvisers now doing lives.
Speaker 3: It's like we're literally not writing anything. They're coming up
Speaker 3: with it right there. I don't know, so.
Speaker 1: Because that does, I think play too Like the public
Speaker 1: likes to believe that like stuff is improvised, Like when
Speaker 1: you watch a movie that like, oh man, that that
Speaker 1: stuff had to be improvised. How much were they coming
Speaker 1: up with on the spot like that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: I think that's the persistent thing that you hear from
Speaker 1: actors and writers in particular, being like, yeah, that's an
Speaker 1: annoying thing that actors like to play into as well. Uh, Right,
Speaker 1: that Yeah, we're just kind of letting the camera run
Speaker 1: and riffing on stuff, and you know, came up with.
Speaker 3: Some real jud appetitow shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we were on some real appetite shit. And finally,
Speaker 1: uh nine to eleven truthers Old News say hello to
Speaker 1: six eleven truthers.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Sunday was June eleventh, and a portion of the I
Speaker 1: ninety five in Philadelphia collapsed after a tanker truck burst
Speaker 1: into flames early Sunday morning.
Speaker 3: And yeah, so like a whole chunk.
Speaker 1: Of like one of the biggest arteries in the United
Speaker 1: States collapsed.
Speaker 3: I saw the footage of that. It was horrified. Look
Speaker 3: the wild part.
Speaker 2: I saw a video of people who were on the
Speaker 2: like the part of the freeway that was above where
Speaker 2: the fire was like directly underneath the like flaming tanker.
Speaker 2: And it's wild to just see people like pull up
Speaker 2: to this part of the freeway that's clearly has huge
Speaker 2: flames and smoke like flying out from both sides, and
Speaker 2: like you kind of see cars stop and they're like should.
Speaker 3: I drive through this? Right? Do I? What do I do?
Speaker 2: And it's like some people break And then at one
Speaker 2: I saw this shot of like just an eighteen wheel
Speaker 2: or just like fucking just full like pedal to the metal,
Speaker 2: just going right through another kind of gave other drivers
Speaker 2: the confidence. But like knowing that that shit just collapsed
Speaker 2: right after my god, that's like kind of I don't
Speaker 2: blame people for being like, I don't know if I
Speaker 2: should drive fucking over the cooking bridge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not the best time to be brave to
Speaker 1: uh go brave enough to get to wah wah, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: but we got to. But a few people on Twitter
Speaker 1: pointed out that the collapse is not far from four
Speaker 1: seasons total landscaping. So okay, I don't know. You you
Speaker 1: connect the dots. We're just putting we're putting the dots
Speaker 1: out there. You connect them for us? Uh, six eleven
Speaker 1: obviously six is nine upside down? Whoa, It's wait, like
Speaker 1: what else do I have to say here?
Speaker 3: Miles? Uh? But okay, inside job. I love that.
Speaker 2: People are just like kind of being like stupid and
Speaker 2: saying that. But does anyone have any kind does the
Speaker 2: theory go beyond being like what.
Speaker 3: If it was six eleven instead of nine to eleven? Like,
Speaker 3: is there anything about I ninety five? Right there?
Speaker 2: They're like the reason they did it is because they're
Speaker 2: trying to stop.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, what is there? Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think they have motive yet, but you know,
Speaker 1: the motive will be revealed, more will be revealed. I'm
Speaker 1: sure I think this is time for a new Q drop.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, exactly so.
Speaker 2: But yeah, sorry, I mean this says gonna take months
Speaker 2: to repair, which I get because it looked like it
Speaker 2: just a fucking whole section of that thing just fucking
Speaker 2: caved in.
Speaker 3: Oof.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a bridge melted.
Speaker 3: Essentially. Never good, Never good, folks, never good. It's bad news.
Speaker 1: Those are some of the things that are trending on
Speaker 1: this Monday morning, June twelfth.
Speaker 3: We are back tomorrow with a whole.
Speaker 1: Ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to
Speaker 1: each other, be kind to yourself, get in the vaccine,
Speaker 1: don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
Speaker 1: to you all tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Bye bye.
Speaker 1: At the conf