WEBVTT - Iman Shumpert (Part 1) 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:05.040 You're listening to Jojassee One now with me Jojo Seua 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:10.959 and iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome back to Jojo Just See One now. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:15.200 Oh my gosh, let me just say, doing this podcast, 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:18.240 seeing you all listening, watching it, just it makes me 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.239 so happy. I'm I'm so grateful. I feel like I've 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.400 learned a lot about myself doing this podcast. I've learned 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.079 a lot about my friends on this podcast. 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:25.520 Uh. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.240 Speaking of today, I am going to get to chat 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.880 with one of my favorite people in the world. We 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.720 originally met on Dancing with the Stars season thirty just now. 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.960 Two years ago, which is absolutely wild. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:45.400 Everybody, please welcome mister Iman Schumpert to jojaswa now the man, 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.480 the guy, the only one on Dancing with the Stars 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:54.040 who whooped my ass? Mister aman, how are you? I am? 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.480 I'm so good. I'm so happy here. Thank you for 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.640 doing my podcast. I appreciate it. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:00:59.360 I love you. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.200 Thank you for Can you feel at home? I love 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:01.520 you too? 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.160 And I feel at home because I told you this 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.440 is like already looks like my daughter's room, Like how 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:11.440 she does a little Jojo the pink stuff. I mean, now, 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.520 it's not it's less, it's less about that she's older 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.360 a little bit now, but I've had she's got. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.399 Changes of what's her what's her vibe? Now? What's she until? 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:22.600 Right now? 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.600 Junie is reading, so the books are sort of taking 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.640 her imagination on a little run. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.240 So every day is something new. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.800 She either wants to go fishing or oh then she 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.800 wants to what does she said? She's been on this 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.280 Bahamas thing, just I don't know where it is. She 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.520 wants to go back to the Bahamas and do a 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:45.160 boat trip. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:46.240 I don't know what it. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:47.600 Is about the Bahamas. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.000 Anytime they start reading, they just their their mind sort 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.800 of just takes those those nice long rides into the. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:56.559 Mine. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.200 Has the cutest little girl in the whole world. 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:01.280 I remember getting to meet her on Dancing with the 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:05.960 Stars and just little ball of energy, so cute. Knows 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.079 exactly who she I mean at the time. I haven't 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:09.480 seen her really since then, but. 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.800 Oh a whole lot more learning is she? 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.720 She just so cool, so spunky. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:20.000 All right, I'm on, I we met on Dancing with 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.160 the Stars. We did season thirty together. Not salty at 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:25.640 all that you beat me? What did you do with 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.919 your newberal trophy? Is it in your house? You did 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.000 give it to your mama. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.720 Got it, said, and she got it on the little stand, 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:34.560 she got the little goal thing behind it. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.400 She had to love that. Does your mom live here? No? 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.560 No, no, in Chicago, still in Chicago. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:40.519 Got it? 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:40.840 Okay? 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:42.480 That makes me happy. That makes me happy that your 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:46.320 mom has it. Anyways, we met on Dancing with the Stars, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:47.920 which was incredible. 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:48.680 I have so. 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:53.720 Many, so many memories about you that I cannot wait 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.200 to go through, so many funny things that I would 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.880 overhear in rehearsals. I have this one story of Danny 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.120 and you in rehearsals. I can't wait to talk about. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.800 So many memories of just you and your trailer, hearing 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.880 you and your trailer that I can't wait to talk about. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.320 But before we get into that, I want to hear 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:13.480 like your your beginning of life, well like your childhood 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.680 than how you I mean, you are one of the 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:21.800 biggest NBA stars in the whole fucking world, and so 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.440 I kind of want to just like this podcast Joe 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.000 just even now is all about you, know, your where 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:29.760 you started and where you are now, and so in 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.880 a nutshell give me like the rundown of in mon 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.280 as An eight year old, little dude, like, what's your childhood? 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:37.680 Eight years old? 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.400 I was really like out the way, if you didn't 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.560 have a rim and a basketball, I ain't really care 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.080 to have a conversation, which you would have thought. I 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.480 was more quiet, like don't I have fun with my friends? 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:56.640 I was very serious about getting good enough to be 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.640 at my name into the NBA. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.440 Like I'm like you always knew that, Like that was 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:01.600 I gotta go there? 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:04.040 What was your first Like how old were you when 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.760 you had your Like I'm gonna I want to be 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.600 a basketball player, like this is my drake? 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.600 What was it was like three or four? 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:16.159 We saw some video of Michael Jordan's pulling up to 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:20.080 the arena and he got out of his corvette and 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.839 I just remember seeing in that boxing that boxy suit. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.479 His suit was super boxy and he got out and 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.599 I remember thinking, why he's so he's too tall to 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.560 be in that little car, like you know what I'm saying, 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:37.440 the car fire like, And my father explained to me, like, nah, 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.560 it's got more room than it looked, like you know 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:40.560 what I'm saying, that's. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.240 The Did you want to play basketbroller? Did you want 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:44.080 the car in the box. 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.000 It was the whole, It was the whole vib It 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.680 was the fact that he played basketball so good, like 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:56.839 him him wonting that competition of basketball landed him correct financially, 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:58.920 you know what I'm saying. So like something I want 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.360 to do anyway, it is about to make me more 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.599 money than anybody that does anything they don't want to 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.000 do thinking they're going to make more money. It's people 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:09.559 all the time that don't want to be a lawyer. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.360 They just think that's where the money is. So I'm 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.680 going to be a lawyer, like it's the top job, 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.560 but you really don't want to do it. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.920 So there's there's, there's that. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:25.120 And I saw Jordan happy to play basketball and making 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.160 money to where you can help people. And then I 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:31.080 saw the big houses on HGTV and my dad was 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.080 like yeah. I was like if Michael Jordan by that 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:37.120 and Dad was like yeah, yeah yeah, but he was 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.800 looking at like NBA players, that's that house is nothing, 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.720 So I could understand where it was, like where it 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.760 was on the statrum, Like I'm like, how much money 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:46.320 do they have? 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.839 And yeah, he like, well that ain't nothing. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.440 Like but that's before we had the internet, super running 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.119 like this where you could just look up an NBA 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.479 contract like oh yeah, Like I didn't know how to 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.760 research it back then, Like I wasn't good with it 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.080 like that. But my father explained to me, like when 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:03.120 you get there, if you get good enough, you're able 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.560 to get a house or car, whatever you want. And 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.640 that comfort is kind of what drove me though. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.720 So your dad was really supportive of you growing up. 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.719 Yeah, he put challenges in front of me. Dude, was like, could. 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:15.880 You have us? 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.479 Uh, what's it called? Because in dances called like a 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.000 stage mom or a stage dad? 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:21.159 What's it called? 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.120 The basketball? Like is it like a like. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.880 I mean, we don't really call it anything. It's like 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:30.200 you either have a mentor or like you'll have a vet, 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.880 like you have a veteran when you get to the NBA. Ye, 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.200 Like Mellow is my veteran, Carl Anthony is my vet, 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.680 Like he takes you under the wing. Everybody kind of knows. 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:41.760 You know, we go to dinner on the road and 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.200 you're a rookie, like Mellow gonna, he's gonna pay for dinner. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.720 He gonna you know what I'm saying, Like that's what 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.680 we have, but we don't we don't have like a 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:53.200 coach besides our coach. You don't really have nobody. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:53.159 With a small title. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:07:07.880 But okay, wait, so you you realized at three or four, yeah, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.160 that you wanted to be a player, a baller. 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.440 But when so you're you're growing up. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:19.400 Obviously at four you can only be so good at something, 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.320 you know what I mean? At what point for you 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:26.160 were you playing basketball at at the local? I mean, 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.280 I don't I should know more about basketball, but you know, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.880 dance world and basketball two very different worlds. But at 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.160 what age were you on a team and you were 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:36.840 like a ship. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:40.280 I'm better than everyone else? When did that happen? When 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:41.480 did you get advanced? 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:42.880 I think. 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:48.120 If you are not listening, smile right now. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:54.680 Like the its like actually deal with me. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:55.560 Yeah. 0:07:55.600 --> 0:08:01.600 So high school yeah, like five foot eight right, yeah, 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.920 and I have a gross spurt. So my second year 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.520 in high school, I'm actually like sloppy, Like, yeah, I 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.880 wasn't great, like all that dancing with the starship was 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:16.560 out the window. Yeah, but I ain't have control of 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.360 my body though. I was growing so fast. And next 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.520 thing I know, I look up and I'm six three 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:26.480 and I worked that whole time. I work my ass off. 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.320 You know, my body was hurting. I was just like, 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.480 I gotta get right, like I gotta be better. I 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.760 got to be better. And I'm still working out as 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:36.080 if I'm five seven eight, like, because I'm trying to 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.880 do that. I'm a guard. I'm a point guard. And 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.199 then I grow and then I finally grew into my body. 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:42.520 Yep. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.319 And I've actually never told this part of the story, 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:51.480 so I'm gonna tell it on here. We played every 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:57.160 man for theirself and which is you play the thirty 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:01.199 two by twos. Yeah, there's no free through in between scoring, 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:05.720 and anybody could play. So before we start playing, to 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.320 warm up, it might be thirty people under one rim 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.920 and whoever has the ball checks up. Thirty people could 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.880 guard you at once if they wow, you know what 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.640 I'm saying. When you got game point, everybody, Yeah, everybody's 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.160 just gonna come. They collect on each other's things. They're like, 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.200 we don't want him to win, but if I steal 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.680 the ball from him, we all gonna guard you exactly, 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:28.720 you know what I'm saying. So it's like that's the game, 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.439 and it's really to warm up because it's it could 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.880 get so crazy it's damn near impossible. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.320 Yeah, like it's so many people. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.600 But I remember the game getting a little like a 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.000 little more turned like people at first they're just warming up, 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.680 but then everybody starts sweating and it's going now. 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.599 And yeah, I got to game point. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.600 I did a lot of stuff to get the game 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.040 point that I was just like, yeah, like I'm definitely 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.079 getting better, like it's working. And then we got to 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:01.240 game point and I remember everybody like up to stop me, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.840 and I remember backing up and then attacking everybody and 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.960 being like they can't, Like y'all are slow, Yeah, y'all 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.000 are you know what I'm saying? Or I'm like you're 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:14.840 why did you go? Like I would do a movie, 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.120 like why would you go for that? 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:16.440 You know? 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.200 You just like kind of realized like. 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.480 Everything click for me, and it was going real slow, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:23.640 and it was kind of cool because it was every 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.160 man for themselves. So I'm like, none of y'all like, 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:27.880 for lack of a better way to say it, none 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:28.800 of y'all could fuck with me. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:29.719 None of y'all can. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:36.560 No y'all, Yeah, like this is it's tough for y'all now, Like, yeah, 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.440 I'm tall, so the time while I'm driving it. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.240 At the end, I should lay this up, but I 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:41.960 went up and I. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.880 Dunked it, and I remember looking at people like, instead 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.400 of trying to block it, they kind of were looking like, damn, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:48.400 you could dunk like that. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.760 Yeah, they were kind of looking at me weird. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.600 When I landed and I realized that, Like in that moment, 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.400 I was like, I can't act. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.120 I can't act regular with y'all no more. I have 0:10:58.200 --> 0:10:59.920 to kill you. Yeah, I have to kill you. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:05.040 Like it's not even like a laughing matter, Like, yeah, 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.600 now I'm gonna be pissed off if y'all get close 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.160 to even a little bit close to beating me, I'm 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.240 gonna get mad at myself. 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:11.560 Yeah. 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.840 And I became more and more and more focused on 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.480 just like playing higher competition. So after that, it was 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.960 like my father taking me State the States. All right, well, 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:22.640 they the best team over here. You gotta beat them. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:23.440 They're the best team. 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.000 So your dad, your dad had you. Your dad is like, 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.400 all right, we'll get you out. Michael Jordan's Carr challenge. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.000 He just he just always yeah, Like you know, everybody's 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.080 got parents that they say stuff to you, and you 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.360 think in that moment. They're trying to correct my behavior, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:40.880 They're trying to control me, They trying to do this, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.280 and it's like nobody ever sits back and just be 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:47.719 like he just challenged me to do something right that simply. 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:48.000 All he did. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:49.560 Yeah, and then it worked. 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.079 Somebody will say that and it'll be like people, I 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:53.760 don't want to do that with my life. It'd be like, bro, 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.040 you don't have to do that with your life. Yeah, 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.559 what's wrong with being qualified in ten areas? Right? No? 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:00.000 Absolute? 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:01.720 What's wrong with that? 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.000 Like I'm not left handed, but I've worked on so 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.120 much stuff so that my left hand works. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.440 What if I ever break my right hand? Ye? You know, 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:10.280 use it. 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:17.080 You know. We do these things where you try and 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.160 sharp especially with your children. You try and put everything 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.040 into them to try and sharpen all these things. And 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.400 I feel like that was my biggest advantage was I 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:28.960 clicked for me early watching my older brothers get into 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.400 it with my father. I was just like, bro, all 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:35.079 he said was get good grades, and good grades is 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:39.080 like I got straight a's. I'm like, bro, all I 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.640 gotta do is it? Like I was damn near doing 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.600 my homework in class while the teacher's talking. Yeah, I'm like, bro, 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.920 this is the best time to do my homework. Yeah, 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.880 because you're given the lesson. Bro, Like, what do you mean, 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:53.520 I'm finna do it right here just in case I 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.679 got a question, I can ask it right here, right now, 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.360 two minutes before this class in. I got the three 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.040 questions right here that I can't get right this my homework. 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:05.680 Now I'm going to be doing it on the bus 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.360 on the way home. Get time I walk into the door. Like, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.679 people just think I'm crazy. I'm like, bro, No, I'm 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.640 finna get every minute I can on this basketball court. 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:14.760 Yeah, that's what I was going to say. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.800 That's very or smart as you made it so that 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:19.600 way you could go home and then focus on what 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:20.240 you really loved. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:21.160 That was my one rule. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.840 They say, if your homework done, you go outside. Really, 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.520 if your homework is done, if your grades is good, 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:27.520 you can go outside. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.319 And you just got to be back before. 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.040 It's docz theres like back before the street lights are on. 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:33.400 Yeah. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.400 Yeah, I was. I'm the very end of that. 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.160 Very end of that generation because it stopped for me 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.200 when I was like, God, I I sound psychotic when 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:44.719 I say this, but I got my first phone when 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:49.720 I was like seven or five or seven, and so 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.320 like when I was it would have been seven, because 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.360 like when I was five and six, that's I've still 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.240 lived by, like come home in the street lights are on. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.880 But then once I was seven, eight nine, I had 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.680 a phone, and so it was like I'll text you 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:00.560 and to come check. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.280 The time when it come home. Like it just changed. 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:03.920 That's a weird life. 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.760 It's a different lifestyle type of kid right here. Man, 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.480 I'm just letting y'all know. She just said that, like 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.440 that was so regular. Nobody else turned seven and eight 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.440 and text their mom and dad when they're coming home. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.960 I tell my daughter, still she has a phone, she said, 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.000 This lady here is living a different lifestyle. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:26.680 Was there a moment when you were a kid. 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.720 I have two questions for you, going off of what 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.480 we just talked about. Was there a moment for you 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.000 when you were like fuck this, I don't want to 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:34.640 do it anymore? 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.720 With basketball? Yeah, yeah, you have the moments you usually 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:44.000 come you win. Yeah, you just you win. There's a 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:49.520 there's very much. There's so many moments I can remember 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.000 in my career where I'm like, bro, I'm doing this 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:59.200 and that the individual success that I need isn't happening 0:14:59.240 --> 0:14:59.480 for me. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:00.800 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.440 Where else like it's frustrating yea where it'd be like 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.480 I gotta wait my turn again, like y'all said, wait, 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.960 I did, Nah, I gotta wait again? 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:15.000 Yeah, did you have a backup? Like what was your like? 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.240 Not doing this anymore? Don't want to be a baller anymore? 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.280 Not in basketball? I want to Oh. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:21.920 No, no, I don't. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.360 I didn't really ever have that where it was like 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.840 I'm gonna take a different career path. I never had that, 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:32.040 But I'm very much so I'm very comfortable and knowing 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.640 I've sharpened other areas to where if I attack anything, 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.600 if I go full throttle at it, Yeah, like you're. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.200 Gonna have to you commit, you met, Yeah, I'm like, if. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:45.160 I commit to something and I'm gonna go wholeheartedly into it, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.320 I'm like, it's gonna be successful and I hang my 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.640 hat on that. Just like saying if you put the 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.160 hours in and the energy in, it's just gonna work. 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:54.000 Like I know how it works. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.320 Like that, guys, but but it just does. I promise 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:57.360 you it does hard work. 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:58.880 Eventually, Eventually, pays off. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.800 Some things take longer than I But straight up, is 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.160 there anyone that you grew up playing with, grew up 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.760 learning with that made it as big as you did? 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.119 Are you the only. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:13.000 Evan Turner played middle school ball with me? Ten year 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.040 career in the league, maybe twelve years? 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:16.840 Damn? 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:18.080 Yeah? 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:24.480 Yeah, still doing well, does podcasts, now coaching. Yeah, but 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.000 we're still still close, still check in with each other. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.640 He's still bothering me about shit that happened on the shot, 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.120 Like I. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.000 Was watching the shot, Bro, what are you doing? How 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.480 you miss how you miss him? 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.560 It's just all all all of all of the childhood 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.880 memories and stuff that we're able to talk about and 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.520 then reflect on NBA memories. It's just really cool to 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.240 have somebody around that's, you know, been through what you've 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:55.000 been through, seeing what you've seen, and now like me 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.200 and him, especially like we feel like, especially when we 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.240 go back home, it's like, y'all don't have any ecuse 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:00.760 no more. 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.080 We had an excuse. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.040 We really didn't see anybody make it out like we 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.280 didn't see it. Like nobody from where we was from 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.920 was like, yeah, I went to the NBA and this 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.120 is what's going on and you could work on this 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.760 move and work on that move. We had nobody liked that, 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.159 but it's like now your body back in opak is 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.920 like y'all really don't have no excuse, Like y'all gotta 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.720 rock with you, gotta work hard and get there, and 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.520 now we've shown you this is the road. Yeah, you 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.480 can get out. You can't hit us with the excuse 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.800 like we don't get enough exposure. Bro, we ain't getting 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.560 no exposure. We just went over there and beat everybody. 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.240 That's what you gotta do. Beat on people. 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:49.280 The show that I'm on right now is Special Forces. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:50.960 I heard something. 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.679 We didn't hear it while we were out selection, but 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.200 we heard it as it was airing on the show. 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.200 They said, winners will always find a way to keep 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:03.120 going and quitters will always find an excuse to stop. 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.760 And like, that's that is. I mean, it's such a 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:06.240 true thing. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.880 Like if you if you really do want something, you're 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.560 going to figure it out, you know what I mean. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.119 And I'm sure there was days where you had to 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.280 make a makeshift rim somewhere and a makeshift ball somewhere, 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:18.320 and you fucking did. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:21.320 That's what That's what's gonna happen. It's like a like 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.119 an artist. Artist you see that you throw them in 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:29.680 a room, you give them I don't know anything like you. 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.120 It work seriously, like they'll take a cigarette and use 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.080 the ashes and draw some and use it for shading. 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.120 Your ability to make something work out of nothing is 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:41.600 it's so important to success. 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:45.879 It's amazing how often people because it's that becomes a 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.560 simplified version. If you were if I put you in 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:53.000