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Speaker 1: Here we go, it's our two, Greg Hose. In a

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Speaker 1: couple of minutes, we are live in Chicago. It is

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Speaker 1: The Herd. Halloween tomorrow, Lamar Jackson Tonight, the Dodgers in

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Speaker 1: big trouble. The Lakers are in an interesting place, whereas

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves without Lebron and without Luca new ownership is

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Speaker 1: putting up massive numbers. Could he be a great trade piece?

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Speaker 1: You know, I said this yesterday. Is between Lebron, Luca

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Speaker 1: and Austin Reeves. You have three guys that need the

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Speaker 1: ball in their hands. In fact, when Lebron plays in

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Speaker 1: Lebron that you should see Austin Reeves numbers. He's a

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Speaker 1: different player, so are they maximizing what he does?

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Speaker 3: Now? It's last night.

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Speaker 1: They beat Minnesota. Yeah, I don't take I don't even

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Speaker 1: talk a lot of NBA in October, November, and December.

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Speaker 1: Same with college basketball. So teams are haven't really figured

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Speaker 1: out their you know, defensive alignments. There's experimenting. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys that are playing themselves into shape. But

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Speaker 1: it is a great space for the new Laker owners

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Speaker 1: to be in. They have not extended Lebron reportedly he's

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Speaker 1: in his fields A little bit about that. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, luc and JJ Reddick. If you said that's

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Speaker 1: the future of the Lakers, I still think they have

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Speaker 1: no rim protector. I don't think they're athletic enough on

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Speaker 1: the wing. I think sometimes Austin Reeves and Luca sort

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Speaker 1: of duplicate their straints. They get to the line, they

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Speaker 1: can score. They're not great defenders. It's duplication, but it

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Speaker 1: is impressive. Here's he now, he missed fourteen shots, and

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Speaker 1: here's Austin.

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Speaker 4: After they'll probably tell me I sucked because it's like

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Speaker 4: fourteen shots.

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Speaker 5: Well, get back my brother and Lebron, everybody get back.

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Speaker 3: Great night. Austin Reeves all right with that?

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Speaker 1: Forty six years working at NFL Films, he is always

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Speaker 1: our Thursday Encyclopedia. Greg Cosel is now joining us. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's let's let's dive into Kansas City in Buffalo. So

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Speaker 1: you know players who don't necessarily work in other places Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: Brown or don't work to the level Juju Smith Schuster

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Speaker 1: that do in Kansas City. We've talked about is it

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Speaker 1: just Andy, is it Mahomes? But I think Rashi Rice

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Speaker 1: But they do a really good job of fun making

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Speaker 1: I mean, sky Moore has a wide open touchdown in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I look at their I look at.

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Speaker 1: Their receiving room, and I'm like, man, there's a lot

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Speaker 6: A lot goes into that colin as it often does

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Speaker 7: Maholmes is one of the most fascinating.

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Speaker 6: Quarterbacks that I think I've studied in all my years

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Speaker 7: Uncertain as to what he would be as a pro.

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Speaker 6: But the more and more you watch him, I don't

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Speaker 6: remarkable the way. I mean, the second half of the

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Speaker 1: How does Buffalo's offense match up with Spags and the

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Speaker 6: I tell you, Buffalo's offense the last number of weeks

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Speaker 6: I don't think they can beat this defense, this Chiefs

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Speaker 6: He's been leaving the pocket prematurely. He's making too many plays,

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Speaker 6: short circuiting your offense. So I think Josh Allen has

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Speaker 6: much more composed. This was not a very good game

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Speaker 6: for him this past week, but they didn't need it.

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Speaker 7: He's going to have to.

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Speaker 6: Play well in history, suggests Colin in this matchup that

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Speaker 6: he's going to have to drop back forty times. I mean,

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Speaker 6: that's the way this matchup has gone. They've played nine

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Speaker 6: has been great in almost all of those games. But

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Speaker 6: in every one of those games. And I would not

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Speaker 1: All Right, I watched the Packers and the Steelers, let's talk.

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Speaker 1: For the last four to five years, Pittsburgh's defense has

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Speaker 1: I'm left wondering they're not even a good tackling team

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Speaker 7: Tall right right?

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Speaker 3: Is it scheme?

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Speaker 1: Is it coaching? Is it personnel? What is wrong with

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Speaker 7: I think you're dealing with two things when it comes.

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Speaker 6: To the pass defense, because they give up the most

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Speaker 6: passing yards in the NFL. People probably thought the Cowboys,

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Speaker 6: and combine that with lack of quality corner play right now,

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Speaker 6: and that's what the main problem is right now.

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Speaker 7: And obviously they've just come off.

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Speaker 6: A game playing against Jordan Love, and Jordan Love he's

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Speaker 6: he was a guy that was reckless a bit at

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Speaker 7: There's a calculation.

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Speaker 6: He's taking the throws that are there rather than chasing plays,

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Speaker 6: and that just helps your offense stay on schedule. And

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Speaker 6: you and I both know that Matt Lafleur at his

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Speaker 3: So I want to talk about the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: But before I talked strictly about the Ravens tonight, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about Caleb against the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: It was interesting.

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Speaker 1: It was one of my blazing five picks, and when

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Speaker 1: I was told Lamar wasn't going to play, my take is, well,

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Speaker 1: it's in Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: It's an NFC team.

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Speaker 1: Caleb has been outside of the opening drive a little erratic.

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Speaker 1: I think Baltimore can beat him. What did the tape say,

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Speaker 1: all these years doing it on Caleb against a finally

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought.

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Speaker 6: Actually, Caleb showed some positive signs in this game. I

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Speaker 6: but I think, and again, this is what I look

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Speaker 6: excellent timing and rhythm within structure, because that's really what

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Speaker 6: the Ben Johnson offense is. And Caleb at his core

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Speaker 6: going to be baby steps. And I think there were

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Speaker 7: Was watching the tape, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 6: Now a lot of people are probably going to look

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Speaker 6: at the interception which he was late with that throw.

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Speaker 6: He drifted rather than flattened, and he made it easy

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Speaker 6: there was positive signs this week, and we'll see. It's

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Speaker 6: going to be a process, Colin, and I think I

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Speaker 6: think you almost have to accept that Caleb Williams is

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Speaker 1: Baltimore's defense is healthy. What do you see positively from that?

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Speaker 6: I love the way they're using Kyle Hamilton now, he's

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Speaker 6: They use him as a blitzer, they line him up

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Speaker 6: on the ball, off the ball, he's used on stunts as.

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Speaker 7: Both a looper and a picker.

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Speaker 6: I mean to me, he's really, in many ways the

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Speaker 6: you the rookie from Marshall Green he's getting a ton

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Speaker 6: to me, it's Kyle Hamilton who is really the main

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Speaker 6: more and more guys actually coming into the league like that.

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Speaker 6: Seattle has won in nick A Minwari, who's basically the

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Speaker 6: So, but Kyle Hamilton, to me, really stands out when

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Speaker 6: you watch the tape of the of the Ravens defense.

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Speaker 1: So this isn't great for Aj Brown, but he doesn't play,

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles offense is hummon.

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Speaker 3: Now I love Devonte Smith. I mean, I listen. They

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Speaker 1: But I've said this before, he's not necessarily an adversary.

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Speaker 1: But there are players that there are wide receivers and

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Speaker 1: And when I think of the Eagles, I always think

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Speaker 6: About the old line, and I'm not an O line

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Speaker 6: But I think where they're so so good, and this

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Speaker 6: we don't know what's going to happen this week. Obviously

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Speaker 7: They rushed six here.

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Speaker 6: You wanted this matchup and they got it. And this

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Speaker 7: He's a pocket player.

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Speaker 6: You know, if he's going to be a great quarterback

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosel forty six years at NFL Films as always, Greg,

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Speaker 1: great stuff.

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Speaker 7: Thanks, Colin, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: What's interesting about CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud When he came out, his comp was Jared Goff,

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Speaker 9: Yes, yes, can we rescind our bet on the No? No, no,

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Speaker 9: I still like it. It's interesting on Stroud so when

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Speaker 5: Rate in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so easy to have time to throw. It's a

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Speaker 1: I don't have a strong feeling. I had a strong

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Speaker 7: It's funny.

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Speaker 1: for them. But and there's a lot of noise around

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, you know, like good teams, there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of noise. I mean, you live in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: you can't see Rams players.

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Speaker 3: They hide. You just don't.

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Speaker 1: It's not a thing. And so the best teams are

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Speaker 1: usually a little quiet. They keep their gms, they keep

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Speaker 1: their scouting directors, they keep their coordinators. But it's just

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way the last two weeks. I

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Speaker 1: don't generally like taking favorites. I'm having to talk myself

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Speaker 1: in to the Washington commanders on Sunday night. I'm having

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Speaker 1: to talk myself into it. Well, because I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: take five favorites.

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Speaker 5: Well, what about the Bears your Bears.

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Speaker 9: By the way, they may face Jake Browning instead of

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Speaker 9: Joe Flacco. I don't know if you saw that news.

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Speaker 9: Joe Flacco's got an ac joint. Sprain and Jake Browning

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Speaker 9: maybe understand art the Bears a slight favorite. Bears are

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Speaker 9: a favorite, but that's gonna go up. Remember Jamar Chase

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Speaker 9: was like ticked off playing with Jake Browning. Flacco comes in,

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Speaker 9: He's getting nineteen targets a game. So yeah, Bears all

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Speaker 9: of a sudden, look interesting. I think you're right about

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Speaker 9: the quarterbacks, man, and we're gonna find out. Can JJ

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Speaker 9: McCarthy play. We may find that out against a nutches

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Speaker 9: into company Sunday.

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Speaker 5: I don't know the answer.

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Speaker 1: Always so many surprises. In October, Toronto Blue Jays heading

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Speaker 1: back to Canada three to two lead. All the Dodgers'

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar bats have dried up in the

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Speaker 1: last two games.

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Speaker 3: Here's Jmac with the news.

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Speaker 7: No, no, turn on the news.

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Speaker 2: This is the line news.

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Speaker 9: All right, Colin, Let's start with our very own Tom Brady,

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Speaker 9: friend of the show, obviously announcer here at Fox. He

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Speaker 9: put together a weekly power rankings and wouldn't you believe it,

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Speaker 9: he's got an eye on Jordan Love as an MVP

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Speaker 9: dark horse.

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Speaker 5: Tom Brady here he is talking about Jordan Love.

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Speaker 11: Pittsburgh's one of the toughest places to play in the NFL.

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Speaker 11: In Green Bay troil most of the game before a

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Speaker 11: monster fourth quarter. That's the kind of calm under pressure

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Speaker 11: that I like to see from a young quarterback who

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Speaker 11: might be starting to ascend this season. Keep an eye

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Speaker 11: on Jordan Love is a dark horse in the MVP race.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's a dark horse. Now

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Speaker 3: I think I.

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Speaker 5: Think, you know, he might winn the damn thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I.

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Speaker 1: Think he's really good. I think I think it's obvious now.

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Speaker 1: He had such a weird First of all, we didn't

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Speaker 1: watch him in college, unlike a lot of the guys.

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Speaker 9: You were watching Utah State come So we.

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Speaker 1: Didn't watch him in college. Then he didn't play for

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Speaker 1: three years. You couldn't get on. And in his first

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Speaker 1: five or six games, Matt Leafluor called him out at

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Speaker 1: the podium, and then he's very good in the last

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Speaker 1: seven or eight games, and then the next year he

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Speaker 1: gets hurt, and so we kind of came into this year.

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Speaker 1: It was like the old joke about is Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: elite and you don't really know. Listen, turn the sound

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Speaker 1: down and I do this all the time. Turn this

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Speaker 1: sound down and watch Jordan Love movement, arm, accuracy, confidence,

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Speaker 1: He's just I mean, it's really weird. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about this the other day. You start listing the ten

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Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league. We have so many good

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks now, I don't even know where to put Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 1: Where do I put Baker Mayfield?

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Speaker 3: Where do I.

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Speaker 1: Put Dak Prescott? All of them to me are below

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love. I think he's just younger, healthier. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got equal the arm. I think he moves better

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Speaker 1: than most. What do you do with Daniel Jones? Now?

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Speaker 3: What do you do with CJ. Stroud?

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Speaker 1: The quality of quarterback play? Now, I don't even think

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Speaker 1: it's a slight. You could put Jordan Love at like nine,

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Speaker 1: and he is an MVP favorite, you know after.

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Speaker 3: The weekend, Like it's just so good right now.

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Speaker 9: So you know, we've talked about this the MVP discussion

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Speaker 9: nationally on radio, podcast TV. It's kind of weak. Brady

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Speaker 9: makes a good point here. Love is plus eighteen hundred

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Speaker 9: right now. That's actually a smart bet. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 9: tell you why. The Packers if they win the NFC

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Speaker 9: coll and get the number one seed, he's gonna be

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Speaker 9: either the winner or the runner up.

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Speaker 5: That's how it works.

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Speaker 9: The media votes for the quarterback on the best or

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Speaker 9: second best team in the league.

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Speaker 5: How about this one? Are you ready?

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Speaker 9: Week seventeen, Green Bay Packers host the Baltimore Ravens's good.

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Speaker 9: That could be for the MVP. If Jordan Love wins

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Speaker 9: that game in week seventeen, it's probably gonna be flex

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Speaker 9: to Sunday Night Football. That will be for the MVP. Now,

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Speaker 9: Lamar may not be able to win it because he's

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Speaker 9: missed some games, but Jordan Love puts up four touchdowns

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Speaker 9: on the Ravens defense and they win and lock up

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Speaker 9: the number one. You know what I'm telling you, Jordan

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Speaker 9: loves winning the MVP. I think he's in that scenario.

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Speaker 7: Obviously.

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Speaker 3: Think about this.

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Speaker 1: Think about the Packers have hit on three straight superstar quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Did they get them from Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame?

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Speaker 1: They got them from Southern miss Cow and Utah State.

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Speaker 1: That is doing your homework. Think about that. That's their

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Speaker 1: three star They didn't go to USC, they didn't go

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Speaker 1: to LSU, Southern Miss Cow and Utah State. Okay, that

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Speaker 1: is knowing what you're doing.

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Speaker 5: Do you remember.

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Speaker 9: Actually, I don't know if you've seen this, So some

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Speaker 9: meatball put together online a list of quarterbacks that the

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Speaker 9: Packers have had the last thirty years, and then the

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Speaker 9: rest of the division and the Lions have like twenty

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Speaker 9: five quarterbacks. The Vikings have like thirty it's hysterical and

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Speaker 9: the Packers have three. That's it for thirty years. Why

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Speaker 9: is the guy who did that a meet? Well, you

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Speaker 9: know he's trying to make some point about the Packers.

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Speaker 9: And I like making fun of people online who are

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Speaker 9: anonymous because they usually come after me. Final note, do

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Speaker 9: you remember Brock Perty was playing for the MV two

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Speaker 9: years ago against Lamar? I think it was Christmas night?

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Speaker 9: Do you remember that game? Perty had four picks. You

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Speaker 9: came on here and savage it and he lost the

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Speaker 9: MVP that night. He was right there. I think he

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Speaker 9: ended up third behind Dak and Lamar. But that's how

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Speaker 9: it's gonna work. Jordan Love a good bet I think

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Speaker 9: for MVP. Next up com Let's go to the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 9: They are trying to avoid a third straight loss.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 9: That Chargers game was bad last Thursday. JJ McCarthy is

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Speaker 9: back at full health. The ankle's all good. He's gonna

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Speaker 9: start against the Lions. I'm fascinated McCarthy. He feels confident

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Speaker 9: in his ankle heading into Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Everything in my past, you know how I went about things.

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Speaker 4: It was always like if I felt, you know, ten

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Speaker 4: percent fifteen percent. I was gonna go out there and

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Speaker 4: give it my all, but understanding, you know how this

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Speaker 4: league works and you know how everything operates. I was

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Speaker 4: just listening, you know, to my trainers and coach O'Connell,

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Speaker 4: and you know, obeying orders at the end of the day.

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Speaker 4: But I think it was the smartest thing possible. And

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Speaker 4: I feel great. I feel like myself again. I feel

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Speaker 4: like I, you know, have those mobility things that I

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Speaker 4: was concerned about, you know, going into last week, in

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Speaker 4: the prior weeks.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, ready to go.

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Speaker 3: For the record.

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Speaker 1: We always root for quarterbacks on this show because the

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Speaker 1: quality of play is better and because the guys get

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Speaker 1: hurt all the time. I am hoping this is a

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Speaker 1: twenty eight to twenty seven shootout.

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Speaker 3: I don't care who wins.

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Speaker 1: I want to see the Kevin O'Connell's too good of

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Speaker 1: a coach to be scrambling to find like Shane Stikeen

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Speaker 1: with Anthony Richardson, You're like, this guy's too good of

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Speaker 1: a coach. Give him somebody he can elevate. I want

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Speaker 1: to see JJ McCarthy flourish this weekend. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you will, but playing, you know, Detroit at home

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Speaker 1: is a track team, but I'm rooting for him, not

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Speaker 1: rooting against him. The league at one o'clock window on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: I can only take so many bad quarterbacks, So.

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Speaker 9: I'm looking at the injury report we're waiting for today.

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Speaker 9: But the offensive line for the Vikings is one to

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Speaker 9: watch Colin. If they don't have it against Hutcheson and McNeil,

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Speaker 9: they're in trouble. And I this is there's a lot

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Speaker 9: of noise or do you pay.

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Speaker 5: Attention the Vikings.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of people right now kind of upset

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Speaker 9: with Kevin O'Connell, who apparently was ready for satanhood before

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Speaker 9: the season and now it's like, hold up, hold up.

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Speaker 9: You guys had Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold on the roster,

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Speaker 9: they're both going to the playoffs and we're stuck with

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Speaker 9: McCarthy and broken Carson Wentz. So there are people like

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Speaker 9: upset right now with the Vikings. I don't totally get

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Speaker 9: it because I believe.

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Speaker 1: In o'connelle well, okay, just a reminder, it's hard. Everybody

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Speaker 1: wanted Chris Ballard fired last year the GM and then

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Speaker 1: you watch him now with a confident quarterback and you're like, God,

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Speaker 1: they're mauling good teams. They're dominating because they've been drafting well.

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Speaker 1: They just couldn't find the quarterback. Kevin O'Connell's a great

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Speaker 1: top ten coach. Agree, you don't get the quarterback right.

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Speaker 1: Everybody looks dumb in the organization. Everybody Kevin Stefanski is

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Speaker 1: a great coach. They can't get the quarterback right. So

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Speaker 1: I my take in all this stuff is Kevin Stefanski,

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. I said this before. I can love a company,

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Speaker 1: but not love the current stock price. Can love a coach,

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Speaker 1: don't like his current quarterbackers situation. Kevin O'Connell's great, Stefanski's great.

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Speaker 3: They don't ever goe yet.

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Speaker 9: Final story, Colin is another one of your favorites. We'd

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Speaker 9: love to talk about guys you like on this show.

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Speaker 9: Drake May What a season he's having six and two.

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Speaker 9: He's really cooking on the deep ball. One of the

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Speaker 9: best deep ball throwers in the league this season. Now,

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Speaker 9: as I keep pointing out, they are beating some of

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Speaker 9: the cellar dwellers around the NFL. Here's Falcons DC Jeff Ulbrich,

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Speaker 9: who by the way, was with the Jets last year

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Speaker 9: and it was a little bit about Drake May. Here

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Speaker 9: he is talking about the young most.

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Speaker 8: Challenge being the AFC East for four years. Got very

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Speaker 8: familiar with Drake, especially the last couple and he's way

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Speaker 8: better than I wanted him to be. He feels like

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Speaker 8: a mini Josh Allen, like a younger Josh Allen in

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Speaker 8: a lot of ways. His mobility, his arm strength, the

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Speaker 8: way he can take a game over with both fastest

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Speaker 8: of the game. So he's going to be a He's

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Speaker 8: a problem.

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Speaker 9: Now, before you scoff at the mini Josh Allen comment,

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Speaker 9: our crack staff put together a matchup of Drake May's

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Speaker 9: first twenty starts against Josh Allen's Are you ready calling?

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Speaker 3: No, I can guarantee you Yeah, Drake May's are better. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't stark me at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean I came from a better conference, he had

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Speaker 1: better competition, he was a more refined project prospect, so

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Speaker 1: it didn't surprise me. Yeah, and I don't think it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I think Drake May is going to be a multiple

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Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl or doesn't surprise me. I think he's

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Speaker 1: justin Herbert East Coast version.

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Speaker 5: That's not bad. You know saying I like Colin. So

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Speaker 5: I remember I was higher on May.

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Speaker 9: Than Daniels coming out of the draft, and I was

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Speaker 9: I looked wrong, but I wasn't wrong.

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Speaker 5: I was just early.

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Speaker 9: Drake May is legit and frankly he's having as good

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Speaker 9: as season now as Jaden Daniels had last year.

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Speaker 1: And he's a bigger guy that gets hurt less than

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Speaker 1: that matters. That's why a lot of.

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Speaker 9: Concussion ten three times this season. So we gotta button

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Speaker 9: that up.

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Speaker 1: But these young guys don't know how to slide. Drake

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Speaker 1: May last week brutal, like dude slide practice. Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: used to practice getting sacked. It's not asking much, but

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Speaker 1: Drake Mate practices how to slide.

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Speaker 3: It's not a big ask or you're gonna get hurt.

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Speaker 3: J mcklanews, Okay, well that's the news, and thanks for

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Speaker 3: stopping by the.

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Speaker 2: Heard Line News.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know I was.

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Speaker 1: It's Halloween tomorrow and we're gonna have some fun a

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Speaker 1: little quarterback candy comp also Diana Russini breaking news potentially

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Speaker 1: last hour.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: in noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: All Right, j Mac, Halloween is tomorrow. Our staff already

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Speaker 1: gets into it. You can see all the ghosts hovering.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening on radio, you should turn on FS one.

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Speaker 1: All the ghosts hover ring in and out of our set.

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Speaker 1: So everybody's all fired up for this, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll give a little bit back.

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Speaker 3: I like candy.

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Speaker 1: I'm just knocking out, just knocked out a little kit

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Speaker 1: cat bar here. Oh gross, Oh my god. It's great

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Speaker 1: life saver gummies.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't care what they say about red dye. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I've got a couple snickers here, So we're gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: You give me a quarterback and I will give you

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Speaker 1: his candy com all right.

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Speaker 9: Can't which Halloween candy is?

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Speaker 1: Patrick momes easiest one, Reese's Peanut butter Cup, most popular, best.

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Speaker 3: In the game right now. Patrick leaves the.

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Speaker 1: NFL in total touchdowns and ranke second total yards this

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Speaker 1: year on a heater that is easily by the way

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Speaker 1: the most ordered Halloween candy by a long shot.

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Speaker 9: As a kids say very nd. Which Halloween candy is Monicks?

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Speaker 3: Bonicks is dark chocolate?

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Speaker 5: I love him.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an acquired taste. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: anybody else even likes it. I'm like eighty seven percent,

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Speaker 1: ninety two percent? What do I care?

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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 1: During his five game winning streak in the fourth quarter alone,

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Speaker 1: thirteen touchdowns, two picks, bonex baby bow beautiful?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 9: Which Halloween candy is a Baker Mayfield warhead?

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Speaker 1: Very intense, but you learn to love it. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: he leaves the NFL with eighty two touchdown passes since

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Speaker 1: joining the Bucks. He can be a little reckless. It

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Speaker 1: takes a while to get used to it. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, You're down a couple of those warheads.

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Speaker 3: You're all in? All right?

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Speaker 5: Which Halloween candy is Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: He's complex, and so is this candy the TUTSI rollpop.

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Speaker 1: It's got a hardened exterior, but it's totally different inside,

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Speaker 1: completely different inside.

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Speaker 3: Listen, the Steelers are.

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Speaker 1: Going to average twenty five a game, right, that's what

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Speaker 1: they're doing right now. That's their best in five six years.

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Speaker 1: So the TUTSI roll pop again. I'm not saying it's

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Speaker 1: great for your teeth. I'm not saying, but the outside

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Speaker 1: in the inside, it's very complex.

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Speaker 3: It's two different candy.

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Speaker 9: That's a good one. Which Halloween candy is Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 9: candy corn?

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Speaker 1: A lot of people love it something, it's totally overrated.

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Speaker 1: He's won twenty two of us twenty of his last

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Speaker 1: twenty two games, so it's dependable.

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Speaker 3: It's always there.

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Speaker 1: But they have one of the highest third and out

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Speaker 1: percentages in the NFL. So you're either with it or

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Speaker 1: you're not at all. Love me some candy corner.

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Speaker 5: Which Halloween candy is Matthew Stafford?

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Speaker 3: We both love Stafford.

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Speaker 1: He's all reliable, like the Hershey bar, you know what

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Speaker 1: you're getting, right, never bad. Leads the NFL in touchdown

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Speaker 1: passes and big plays, second highest quidded passer. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it goes with almost anything. A fifth round wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: a fifth round running back, an undrafted left tackle, the

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Speaker 1: classic thirty seven year old still good.

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Speaker 5: Which Halloween candy is? Your guy?

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, My god, the butterfinger sounds good, but is it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm not sure if it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's nine to fifteen completion percentage declined this season,

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Speaker 1: ranks twenty fourth.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I used to get stuff in my teeth.

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Speaker 9: I'm weird after taste. I don't know if I like it.

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Speaker 9: I like butterfinger, right, finally call him? Which Halloween candy is?

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Speaker 9: Trevor Lawrence? The staff came up with this mystery airhead.

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Speaker 1: What you're never quite sure what you just experience?

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Speaker 3: Well, what is it?

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Speaker 1: He leaves the NFL with seventy four turnovers since he

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Speaker 1: entered the league, and his record is twenty six and

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Speaker 1: forty one.

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Speaker 3: It's good, No, it's not. What is it?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's talented. He turns the ball over.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to make it.

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence or the mystery airhead?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, good stuff. I can't believe you don't like candy corn.

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Speaker 9: Bro come on, candy corn is so good.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit like candle wax, a little bit.

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Speaker 1: How. I'm a texture guy. I can't there's certain textures

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Speaker 1: I can't do.

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Speaker 5: I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 9: I'm shocked that Reese's Peanut butter cups are like the

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Speaker 9: most popular by a mile.

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Speaker 5: I had no clue those are I just yeah, Wow,

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Speaker 5: that's sunning.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's the NFL schedule a JMAX this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I usually ask you on Thursdays, I want the big upset.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, I don't see a big upset.

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Speaker 9: Why don't we cross them off the list? It's the

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Speaker 9: Rams are not losing, right, They're not losing to the Saints.

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Speaker 1: And the Chargers aren't losing against the Titan I just correct.

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Speaker 9: And the Packers are not losing to the Panthers. So

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Speaker 9: let's cross those off. Can you find one now?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 5: Can you make a case for the Vikings in the division?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: I can't see it either.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna get you go first.

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Speaker 1: I the Raiders beating the Jaguars in Vegas?

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Speaker 5: Is that really an upset? I mean and a half?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, i'll tell you what I think. This

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Speaker 1: would be a huge upset, but the odds makers don't.

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Speaker 1: I think if the Steelers beat the Colts it's a

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Speaker 1: huge upset.

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Speaker 3: But the line's three.

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Speaker 9: Well, you want a huge upset, I'll give it to

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Speaker 9: you now.

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Speaker 5: You're not gonna like it.

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Speaker 9: But the Atlanta Falcons were at six and a half

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Speaker 9: of money has come in on the Falcons on the

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Speaker 9: road against the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: Drake London's expected.

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Speaker 9: Back, Michael Pennock's expected back, and there's some numbers on teams.

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Speaker 9: You used to do this where a team will lose

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Speaker 9: big as a favorite, and then they come back the

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Speaker 9: next week and they pull an upset, you know, Raheem

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Speaker 9: Morris fires up the troops and.

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Speaker 5: They get their act together.

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Speaker 9: By the way, the Patriots haven't faced anybody good lately,

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Speaker 9: Colin An, So maybe you can make a case for

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Speaker 9: the Falcons, but it's outdoors.

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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting about the NFL is that Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady and Joe Flacco and Matt Stafford and now Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff it feels like a little bit of an older

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Speaker 1: quarterback is that once again it is proving in this league.

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Speaker 1: I mean Brady couldn't run, Flacco doesn't move, Golf doesn't

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Speaker 1: move at all. Aaron Rodgers having a very good year. Right,

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Speaker 1: We fall in love with athletic ability. How are these

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Speaker 1: old guys working at such a high level. Cause ninety

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Speaker 1: percent a quarterback play is sitting in the pocket, pre

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Speaker 1: snap reads, getting your guys in the right place. It's

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Speaker 1: it's it is a above the shoulders is about seventy

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Speaker 1: five percent. Flacco could drop forty this weekend. You would

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Speaker 1: not be shocked. So it's like when I watched Flacco,

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Speaker 1: it's so instructive. You watch Flacco, you watch Stafford, you

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Speaker 1: watched old Brady, and you're watching old Aaron Rodgers. The

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Speaker 1: Steemers offense has been so inefficient and so clunky and outdated.

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Speaker 1: Now it brings in a forty one year old and

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Speaker 1: they're great in the red zone. Why because Aaron has

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Speaker 1: seen every defense. So we fall in love with all

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Speaker 1: the horsepower.

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Speaker 3: Folks.

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Speaker 1: It's all about figuring out what's coming audibling protections, getting

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Speaker 1: out of trouble, getting into matchup advantages, trade deadline. Diana

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Speaker 1: Rusini stops by on Hollywoody Hollylinies,