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Coming up after two o'clock. 26 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: I think I don't know. 27 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: If you've all played this game, but I had a 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: version of it about an hour in a little over 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: an hour ago outside my home. 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: I couldn't tell the distance. I heard a voice loud. 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so the game is Is this a crazy homeless 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: person or is this someone just talking loudly on their 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: cell phone and walking the neighborhood. 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: Could be either one? Right? Oh? 35 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, listened a little more carefully, decided the voice isn't normal. 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: I couldn't pick out all the words, but I said 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: the tone not right. 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: It was kind of like, see if I can imitate it. 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: I said, we're your hat there? 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: You you ain't your right? 41 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Dold you? Oh? 42 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: I went and looked, and sure enough, it's a scraggly 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: homeless guy standing on corner not that far from my home, 44 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: but up near a busier road, and I could see 45 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: his scruffy beard, drug out eyes, had something wrapped around 46 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: his shoulders like a blanket and he's just standing there staring, 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: and then he's doing a long loud monologue on It 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: makes no sense, right, because when you're sapped out on drugs, 49 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: it completely makes no sense. 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, that's the closest that has come 51 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: to my house. 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: That's the first thing I thought of, And I said, 53 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 2: if I wander to bothering the family live in there. 54 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: But within half an hour, I don't hear it anymore. So, 55 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: a long loud monologue that makes no sense. I actually 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: offer him a job here. See he realized it. He 57 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: could be a talk show. 58 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: Can you've heard these guys the way they ramble, and 59 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: if you try to focus on the words, it really 60 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: wouldn't make much difference because they don't make any sense. 61 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: It's this random ni because they're brain damaged. Right, there's 62 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: an occasional word in there that you might recognize. But 63 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to confront. I didn't even call the police. 64 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: I thought about it for a second. Then I, well, 65 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: see what happens. I didn't offer him some food. I 66 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: should have. 67 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: I should have offered him an adu and acceleate and 68 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: accessory dwelling unit. That's right, you have it. You probably 69 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: have an extra rumor two in your house. Yeah. I 70 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: probably should have taken him in. That would have been 71 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: the Christian thing. 72 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: To do, except you did nothing. It might have been dangerous, 73 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: but it would have been the Christian thing to do. 74 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: He's just going to continue to rot and decay on 75 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: the streets. I don't believe all homeless people are violent, 76 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: but they're unstable. 77 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: I'm not playing that lottery. No. 78 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: Well, that leads us to this interesting story from the 79 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: Elsagundo Times. A number of Ninth Circuits, that's the US 80 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, was it John twenty judges? 81 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, you'd usually know this answer told them 82 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: the Ninth Circuit, which covers the couple of the Western States. 83 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: I think there's twenty nine judges. There's a lot, yeah, 84 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: because they cover such a huge territory and traditionally it 85 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: has been really left wing. And then Trump got a 86 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: lot of judges added during his term. Ten of them. 87 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: Now Biden has come back and appointed seven. They turn 88 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: over fast. Seventeen judges in the last few years have 89 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: turned over. Yeah, they're very old. Oh, I think there's 90 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: a whole there's one one in here, got appointed by Reagan. 91 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: That makes them bed got to be pretty old. Yeah, 92 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: imagine that that's got to be forty plus years ago. Yeah, 93 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: so that guy's in his eighties. 94 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: Well, a few of them have mouthed off, and you 95 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: may be familiar with what they're mouthing off about. The 96 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: Ninth Circuit has weighed in on homelessness and a couple 97 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: of big cases. Most recently last September, a three judge 98 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: panel made that old ruling. And this came from a 99 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: case out of Oregon, a place called Grant's Pass, Oregon, 100 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: about whether or not the homeless can sleep in public spaces, 101 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: can just squat down and spend all night there. And 102 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: they tried to pass some ordinances restricting that in Grant's Pass, Oregon, 103 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: and it made its way to the Ninth Circuit, and 104 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: it was a liberal leaning three judge panel they overturned 105 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: as unconstitutional this set of local ordinances and grants pass 106 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: that barred homeless people from sleeping in certain public areas. 107 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: And then there's that famous twenty eighteen decision. Is that 108 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: the Poise, Idaho decision, Yeah, which another Ninth Circuit panel 109 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: found that Eighth Amendment prohibits the imposition of criminal penalties 110 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: for sitting, sleeping, or lying outside on public property for 111 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: homeless individuals who cannot obtain shelter. 112 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: I always want to make clear because I saw Mike 113 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: Bond and lie about this in person. All that means 114 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: is they had the right to sleep overnight, let's say 115 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: between nine pm and six am. It doesn't mean they 116 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: get a twenty four hour encampment that they can build 117 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: a tent and bring furniture and spread themselves out. They 118 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: could be disrupted every day at six in the morning. 119 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Now they can reconvene and roll out their sleeping bag 120 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: again at nine that night, but then they have to 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: pack up and leave. And so if you ever hear 122 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: a single official saying, well, there's been an appeals court 123 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: rulings like no, no, no, no, that's just for the 124 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: overnight period if there aren't any shelter beds availed and 125 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Grant's passed didn't have any shelter beds, so it is 126 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: it's a ridiculous, stupid ruling, but it is a limited one. 127 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: Well, Grant's pass appealed this and they went to the 128 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: whole panel to get a bigger panel to rule, and 129 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 2: apparently yesterday the Ninth Circuit issued in order denying the 130 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: city's request, indicating a majority of the twenty nine active 131 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: judges voted against rehearing the case, so that ended it 132 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: for Grant's pass. But that didn't stop these and being 133 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: described as conservative justices on the Ninth Circuit, twelve of them, yeah, 134 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: putting out this opinion that this is crazy. As The 135 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: Times puts it, the court's conservative wing painted a dystopian 136 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: portrait of an American West deprived of its public spaces 137 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: and under siege by an overwhelming epidemic of homelessness. Right, 138 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: that's the typical elsagund Yeah, But the way he wrote it, 139 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: it's almost dismissive as that these people are, you know, 140 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: they're trying to act like it's the end of the world. 141 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: They're hysterical and hyperbolic. This is Kevin Rector is the 142 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: left wing writer who produced this story, and. 143 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: A guy by the name of Judge Mylon Smith Junior, 144 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: who was appointed by President George W. 145 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: Bush wrote that homelessness is the defining public health and 146 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: safety crisis in the Western United States, and he talked 147 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: about California and Los Angeles, and he said there are 148 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: stretches of the city where one cannot help but think 149 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: the government has shirked its most basic responsibilities under the 150 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: social contract. And you and I have used that tone before. 151 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: There's kind of a social. 152 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: Contract that goes on in life, providing public safety and 153 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: ensuring the public spaces remain open to all one time. 154 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: Public spaces like parks, many of which provide scarce outdoor 155 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: space in dense working class neighborhoods, are filled with thousands 156 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: of tents and makeshift structures and are no longer welcoming 157 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: the broader community. Eight other judges joined his dissent in 158 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: whole or in part with their own stories, and one 159 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: of them even talked about, you know, San Francisco and 160 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: what you can see there. 161 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: There was another judge, diarmud o' scanion, oh Scanlane, and 162 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: he's the one from the Reagan era. He said, this 163 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: decision now effectively guarantees a personal constitutional right for individuals 164 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: to camp or sleep on sidewalks and parks and playgrounds 165 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: in defiance of traditional health, safety, and welfare laws. It 166 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: is a dubious holding premise on a fanciful interpretation of 167 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: the Eighth Amendment, and his descent was joined by fourteen 168 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: other conservatives on the court. 169 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of them wrote that the September decision was inventive. 170 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: Judge made novelty. He says, it's telling that the Ninth 171 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: Circuit is the only one bold enough to embrace such 172 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 2: a doctrine. And he says, look at San Francisco, you 173 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: go through the tenderloin or skid row la communities are 174 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: fast coming undone. Tense crowding out sidewalks, needles, flooding parks, 175 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: rubbish and worse, moring public squares reflect a threat to 176 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: the public welfare that should not be taken lightly. So 177 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: at least when you read this, you feel that there's 178 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: some hope. It's just a matter of who controls the courts, right. 179 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: And had they gotten a different three judge panel to 180 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: hear the case, you would have had a different decision, 181 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: Which is really maddening because there's only one constitution in 182 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: one law, and there's really an agreed upon way of 183 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,599 Speaker 1: life that everybody has followed for almost two hundred and 184 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: fifty years now that public spaces are to be kept 185 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: free of menace and people doing disgusting things and people 186 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: repelling others from using the park. I mean, we all 187 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: agreed on what that is. 188 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: Now, the end of this story makes it clear that 189 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: it is possibly a signal coming from these justices to 190 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: get this case to the US Supreme Court, where if 191 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: you look at some of the most of the decisions 192 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: with the six to three majority of Conservatives, this might 193 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: go a different way. This could be their way of 194 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: trying to publicly signal the US Supreme Court take a 195 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: case like this. 196 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Here's the thing I don't understand. Why is it conservative 197 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: to want a clean park without drug addicted mental patient 198 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: weirdos scaring children away? Because it leads to enforcement, which 199 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: leads to police, which leads to we don't like the police, 200 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: from the liberals, from the progressives, we don't like enforcement. Stupid. Well, 201 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,239 Speaker 1: that's just so stupid, and it leads to what chaos 202 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: When you don't have an enforcement. The opposite of enforcement 203 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: is chaos, and that's what you have in the public spaces. Now, Now, 204 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: who likes that? Does anybody like that? I don't understand. 205 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: I've never met a person who actually wants to walk 206 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: through Oh, I don't know, the Tenderloin district at ten 207 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: o'clock at night. Anybody really want to do that? 208 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: No, But they've adjusted to it, and they've normalized it. 209 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: So therefore, the other half of them says, this is 210 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: so sad. Somebody should do and then just blame the government. 211 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: The government should take care of all these people. 212 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: But the public, all of the public pays for these 213 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: public spaces, and clearly a huge majority willn't want the 214 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: spaces kept clean. And we can play this game all day, 215 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: but it is a public space, and most of the 216 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: public that pays for the space wants to use it 217 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: in a peaceful way. So I don't see what their 218 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: legal standing is here. This is just you know, like 219 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: religious fanaticism on their part. 220 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: But the people in these places we're talking about big 221 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: parts of La the West Side and then San Francisco, 222 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: they've just decided that we'll live with this until they 223 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: find a solution. 224 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: Here's what they're saying. There's no solution if you don't 225 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: want to enforce the solution. All right, we got more 226 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: coming up, including your chance at to somebody. I Am 227 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: six forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 228 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 229 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 230 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 3: In vagrant Land. 231 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: We're just talking about some ninth Circuit conservative justices. But 232 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: John's right, it shouldn't be conservative to have the viewpoint 233 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: that homeless people stinking up the parks and leaving needles 234 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: and feces everywhere is not a problem. 235 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, I don't understand. I just don't understand why 236 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: this is a political issue. 237 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: Well, because the other side feels like it's not their doing. 238 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: They have fallen into homelessness and we need to help them, 239 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: and until we can, they should sleep where they want 240 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: to sleep, because they've got nowhere else to go. But 241 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: I can parrot the argument, but the same crowd says 242 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: we can't force them into treatment. 243 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 3: You cannot. 244 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: Well, actually, and as we've learned in the last couple 245 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: of years, you now have to have a luxurious apartment 246 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: with full services, right, You're not going to stick them 247 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: into a steaking shelter, no congregate living as they call it. 248 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: Where does that come from? 249 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: That evolved in the last few years, I think and 250 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: the pandemic that's where that evolved from, because everyone was like, oh, 251 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: they're going to get COVID if they're stuck together, and 252 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: let's put them in private hotel rooms. 253 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: And then it launched into something nicer than that. 254 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: But all these ideas are on its face, stupid. They're 255 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: not even debatable. They're stupid. So why are the stupid, 256 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: crazy people with all their hysteria, why are they carrying 257 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: the day? 258 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it goes back to a main tenant. 259 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 2: You and I and many people believe in one was 260 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: the social contract you have and second is self responsibility. 261 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: But this opposite crowd doesn't believe in either one of 262 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: those things. Yes, especially number two. They believe that a 263 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: lot of this is the makings of this terrible American 264 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: capitalistic system which exploits people. People can't afford stuff, so 265 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: they're left homeless and we need to be sympathetic and 266 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: find them a beautiful place to live. And this is 267 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: like five percent of the country probably, But why are 268 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: they always in elective office and number of judges? Yeah? 269 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: And why do they work in the media and amplify 270 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: all this had this happen? 271 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: But when you see these polls, if you believe them, 272 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: these California polls, that they seem to be the same 273 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: ilk some of the people that respond right often they 274 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: are I haven't seen a poll that outright asks to 275 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: the homeless be removed. 276 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, alic spaces, But. 277 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: They're usually asked some type of question concerning homelessness, and 278 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: I can tell. 279 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: Because it's always never enough. It's okay, we beult shelters. Well, 280 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: it's not fair because you don't let them do their 281 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: drugs in the shelter. Come on, now, you're gonna get 282 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna get punched. You're right, it's not fair that 283 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: we don't let them do drugs in the shelter. What 284 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: do you think would happen then? If you put one 285 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: hundred drug addicts in the shelter and they spend the 286 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: whole night smoking and snorting, then what happens The place 287 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: burns down. 288 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: What I often find interesting about this too, it's opposite 289 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: in another way, it's almost libertarian. They believe that you 290 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: just have to leave the homeless alone and let them 291 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: make their own choices. They believe in the very pure 292 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: feeling of they can do what they want to do. 293 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: It's their life. But you and I say not going. 294 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: It affects public space, right, affects well, the quality of life. 295 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: Because the home values all. 296 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: Of these things, you can't. That's the social contract part 297 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: of this. 298 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: The other side of being libertarian is you want to 299 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: be left alone. You want to be left alone by 300 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: the government. You certainly want to be left alone by 301 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: the freaking lunatic drug addicts in town. You want to 302 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: be left alone, and you have a right to be 303 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: left alone. And we're paying for this. That's another thing. 304 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: We're paying for the for the parks, and we're also 305 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: paying for these idiot council members and supervisors and legislators 306 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: who allow us to go on and now judges and 307 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: now judges. Our paycheck is financing all this, And we're 308 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: building eight hundred thousand dollars homes that are never going 309 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: to be used. I mean I The. 310 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: Only perfect middle ground, We've talked about it a lot 311 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: over the years is slab City. 312 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: That's where if you want to be like that, then 313 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: go way out there to your own desert community far 314 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: from the rest of us. Well, we don't care about 315 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: that stinking public space, and do what you want with 316 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: it and enjoy no. 317 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: Government to have chaos. Don't care. But go there the bus, 318 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: take your tent, set yourself up hundreds of miles from 319 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: the rest, enjoy the one hundred and thirty degree he 320 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: that's it. 321 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: That's the only compromise I see between the two far 322 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: apart sides on this kind of thing. 323 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, but our side we've got, we've got. 324 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, when people vote on this stuff, like like 325 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: in the in the Mike Bonding race, people voted on 326 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: that issue, and that's why Tracy Park won. Yeah, that 327 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: was a big issue to people in the council district. 328 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: And he dropped out of the race because he knew 329 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: he was going to be a loser. 330 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: So the vote, and you can see from that latest 331 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: homeless count that was one of the biggest areas of 332 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: homeless growth the West Side. 333 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: That's why those people moved and finally. 334 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: Voted on it. Yeah, she did. 335 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm hoping the next homeless count is better because Tracy 336 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: Park's trying. 337 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: And I don't know about best set yet, but she's 338 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: really the only one with her head screwed on straight 339 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: in the whole city council. Yeah, she's the only one 340 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: who talks normally and has normal views on what should 341 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: be obvious. All right, we got more covering up, Johnny 342 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: Ken caf I eight M six forty. 343 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: We're live everywhere. It's the iHeartRadio app. 344 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: You're paying attention in there. 345 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: I am. 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There was 369 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 2: a shoplifting call and also complaint that they assaulted. 370 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 3: And I like this term a loss prevention officer. 371 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: You know it. You know they should have a security guard, Billy, 372 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: They shouldn't have done this. But wasn't a shooting. 373 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 3: I mean she got pepper sprayed and driven to the ground. 374 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, she's got a good lawsuit coming, She's gonna 375 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: make some money. But man, the coverage is so over 376 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: the top down these things. 377 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: I think Steve Gregory talked to an attorney for one 378 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: of the deputies, so he may have some good stuff 379 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 2: for us coming up after two o'clock. As we'll ravel 380 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: through this story. We cover these things from time to time. 381 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: I like to pick them because I just find it 382 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 2: great when you have what I would call two sides 383 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: on the environment fighting each other, right, the climate crazies 384 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: versus the species crazy. 385 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: So I'll call it. 386 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 2: The El Segundo Times did a long story recently, Oh 387 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: my God, about solar power. 388 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: This was a book. This was a book. 389 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: I actually started reading it last week, but I didn't 390 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: finish it until today when I said I think I 391 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: want to talk about this because don't we all care 392 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: about desert tortoises? 393 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? I do? 394 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 2: Well, all right, Well, the idea would be, ideally you 395 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 2: could put all the solar panels on the rooftops of 396 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: buildings and sunny places. That's not going to result in 397 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: enough energy. So everyone knows, and they mostly agreed, you 398 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: have to build these massive solar farms. And where's a 399 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: good place to do that. Anybody got a guess what state? 400 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: Where? Apparently seventy five percent of the land is federal owned. 401 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know that until I read this story. 402 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: Nevada, And that's where this story takes us because that's 403 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: where they Nevada certainly gets a lot of sun. 404 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: They're going to turn Nevada into one gigantic solar panel. 405 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: They well not if the guys like this, the people 406 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: in the story. I like him. He's got a walking stick. 407 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: His name is Patrick Donnelly, and he's with the Center 408 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: for Biological Diversity, and he said that he's one of 409 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 2: these people that's tied in knots over this. 410 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: Here's the quote. 411 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: There is no good solar project in the desert, but 412 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: there is less bad. We're at a point now where 413 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: we have to settle for less bad because the alternatives 414 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: are more bad, more coal, more gas, more climate apocalypse. 415 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: That's right. See, this is the thing. They are so 416 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: terrified that this religion is an apocalyptic religion, the climate 417 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: change religion. It leads to all of our deaths. So 418 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: now when they have to make these difficult decisions, what's 419 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: more important? Who do we save? It's always in the 420 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: face of a end of time's philosophy, you know, this 421 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: is the preaching from the climate change leaders. This is 422 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: end of days if you don't sacrifice now. And that's 423 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: why they are so aggressive in trying to take away 424 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: our ordinary pleasures like fireworks. Right. 425 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: Well, they'll tell you that they've been patient, but people 426 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: are just not acting. 427 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: And I'm talking about the regular. 428 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: Folks because most people like cutting back on air travel 429 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: that story we did yesterday. They're not doing things that 430 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: they think could really make a difference collectively. 431 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 3: So now they have to make it apocalyptic to. 432 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: Get your attention, because most of Jerry Brown did, even 433 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: the famous apocalypse desk. What you have, Yeah, that's right, 434 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: because most people know this is nuts, right, they just 435 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: feel it, They just sense it. 436 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: Like these people are crazy. These are the religious people 437 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: who stand on the cliff waiting for the rapture, waiting 438 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: for God to come down and save them, you know, 439 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: from this mortal planet. And so now, because it's become 440 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: so evangelical, so so so, cults like they're starting to 441 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: look crazier and crazier because what are they coming after. 442 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: They're coming after your hamburger, They're coming after your car, 443 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: They're coming after your fireworks. You know, you can't you 444 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: can't take a plane trip to see your family anymore. 445 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: Everything is about guilt. Everything is about you. You have 446 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: to be punished, you have to sacrifice, you have to 447 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: do without. You know, nobody wants to hear we live 448 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: in an excessive consumption society, John Cobelt. 449 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: But you're a big part of it, you, mister Westsider. 450 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: Oh I can crazy. Yeah, the Madonnelly said here he 451 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: cares about everything. And you may think this is the desert, 452 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: but there's there's life out there, even little known plants 453 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: and animals with tiny ranges. Mentioned here is something called 454 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: TAM's buckwheat that's some kind of a plant, and the 455 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: Dixie Valley toad. And his quote is I'm not a 456 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: religious guy. But you know, all God's creature is great 457 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: and small. So it's activists and or organizations like this 458 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,239 Speaker 1: that fight these solar farms because they they're damaging. They 459 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: believe to these these species of plants and animals. Here's 460 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: central question in the story. By the way, the guy 461 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: writing this is Sammy Roth, and he's a climate nut. 462 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: Oh it's right, Sammy Roth. We've bean into him a 463 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: few times. We've mocked him before. 464 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: Deborah. All right, here's the central question that he writes, 465 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: Should Americans be willing to sacrifice a few endangered species 466 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: in the name of tackling climate change? Yes? Or no? 467 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: No? 468 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: No no. Look at that she was quick to answer 469 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: climate change. Heretic. Yes, she's she's chosen the species sover 470 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: climate change. You'd rather us just boil over and die 471 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: there you know what will take our chances? 472 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: That won't happen for a very long time. But why 473 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: would we want to harm. 474 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: These these I'm with you species, he's endangered species. I'm 475 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: a pro desert tortoise. 476 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: I love tortoises. 477 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: What happens to them they burn out? What happens to 478 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: them with these solar farms? Do they I think their 479 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: habitats are disrupted. These things are massive. Have you seen 480 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: them out. 481 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: Like if you go way way down the ten freeway 482 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: on the way to Arizona, they have some of these things. 483 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: I have seen them. Yes, they're gigantic and they take 484 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: up well you know, they're they're continuous. They're continuous collection 485 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: of panels. So the entire region there is destroyed for 486 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, the natural habitat right. 487 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: They actually built a shade shelter for tortoises out there 488 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: in one of these solar farms. That's like they're talking 489 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 2: about with the bus stops for people. Workers install them 490 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: every eight hundred feet. So with any relocated reptiles try 491 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: to return to the solar farm too early, they don't 492 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: die pacing along the fence and the heat because because 493 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: trying to come back to their territory. 494 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: Well, because the tortoises, I mean, if there anything like 495 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you ever seen at the beach, 496 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: like the sea turtles, yes, you know, and and the 497 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: state or the county will fence off areas along the beach. 498 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: They do it here, they do it in Florida. And 499 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: because the turtles come and they lay their eggs and 500 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: then the eggs hatch underneath the sand, and so you 501 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: have like a picket fence made to protect the eggs. 502 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: And then when they hatch, they try to crawl into 503 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: the ocean. They just have an instinct as to what 504 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: to do. And a lot of them don't make it 505 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: that the mother lays tons and tons of eggs, because 506 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: some of them will hatch, and some of them will 507 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: die on the way to getting to the ocean, or 508 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: they'll be you know, eaten by predators. 509 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: You see what Sammy Roth wrote here. We do, however, 510 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: know the consequences of relying on fossil fuels. Entire towns 511 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: burning to the ground, Lake Mead three quarters empty, elderly 512 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: Americans baking to death, and they're overheated homes. 513 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's worse to come. Elderly Americans baking to death. 514 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: I guess he's only saying the link here. Is he 515 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: talking about Paradise? The fire up Paradise? I would imagine, Yeah, Paradise. 516 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: See you didn't mention that was done by the by 517 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: PG and A, and they're bad. They then take them 518 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: lines electrical power lines. Yeah, that wasn't mentioned by Samuel. No, 519 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: he's a propaganda guy. 520 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: He's like, well, they gave him quite a job here. 521 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: This story was, Yeah, because incredibly long. 522 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: Because that's all they do. They just they just they 523 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: just write. They they only write stuff about race, weird 524 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: gender stories, climate change. That's like ninety percent of the 525 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: El Segundo times. 526 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: But at least this time they kind of had what 527 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: I call the progressive environmental matchup. It's the people trying 528 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 2: to save the species versus the people who think they're 529 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 2: going to save the planet from fossil fuels by building 530 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: all these solar farms. 531 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, how do they how do they work this out? 532 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: It was kind of the question, Well, you know, that's 533 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: the thing. You have to pick a side. And that's 534 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: what that guy said that I quoted. He said, there's 535 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: no good solar farms, but there are less bad ones. 536 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: Look how one solar farm they're building off the fifteen 537 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: freeway one point eight million panels will cover four thousand 538 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: football fields worth of life land. Four thousand football fields worth. Oh, 539 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: by the way, a lot of this power is going 540 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: to come to California because we're the ones that are 541 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: going nuts with the being renewable, right, So the solar 542 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: farms are not just meant for Nevada. They're meant for 543 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: the whole Western states that need this power. By the way, 544 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: you notice the subtle phrase they use solar farms to 545 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: make it sound natural and organic. It's these aren't farms. 546 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: Oh you see. 547 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: They talked to one of the biologists who said that 548 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: twenty years ago she helped relocate desert tortoises to make 549 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 2: way for a test track in California. One of them 550 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: tried to return home, walk twenty miles, hit a fence, 551 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: paced back and forth, and died. 552 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: Of heat exhaustion. Oh that's why they put the shade 553 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: structure up. Yes, they can't because they just have an instinct. 554 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: They know where they're supposed to go back to, and 555 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: they can't get there. And they're just going to keep 556 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: trying and trying and trying, and it's one hundred degrees 557 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: and they exhaust themselves and they're you know, they were 558 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: upset down on their shell. 559 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: All right, we got more coming up. 560 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: Johnny KENKFI AM six forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 561 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 562 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 563 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk about that story out of Lancaster 564 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: where a couple of La County Sheriff's deputies were responding 565 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: to a call of shoplifting at a store and a 566 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: possible attack on security guards, and resulted in them tangling 567 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: with a couple, including a woman who started to video 568 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: the whole thing with her cell phone and that's when 569 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: an officer went after her. Another woman actually took video too, 570 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: so that's how we have a video of the whole 571 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: confrontation plus the bodycam of the sheriff's deputies. We'll be 572 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: talking to Steve Gregory KFI News coming up after two 573 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: o'clock for more on the story to see what else 574 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 2: we can find out. Now we moved to the world 575 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: of well former presidents and former presidents. 576 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: Children two categories here. 577 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: The first story that pops up today concerns Obama. A 578 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: guy who was a defendant in the January sixth capital 579 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: takeover story has been arrested near the home of Obama 580 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. He had weapons and ammunition in 581 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: his van. He was going to blow up the van 582 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 2: at a government facility the day before. His name is 583 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: Taylor Taranto. He's from Washington State. He was taken into 584 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: custody just a few days ago. On June twenty ninth 585 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: that Obama's residence in a neighborhood of DC called Kelorama 586 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: secret Service agent spotted him several blocks from the residents. 587 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: He was arrested on an arrest warrant. 588 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: Related to his actions on January sixth, four misdemeanor charges 589 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: related to the riot, and back to back hearings. A 590 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: judge has been grappling with the government's request to keep 591 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: him detained until trial, saying case law prevented Hi from 592 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: considering factors beyond whether he poses a flight risk when 593 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: deciding whether or not to release him. Says he that 594 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: officials in Washington State must get a plan in place 595 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: for his pre trial release and custodianship of the judge 596 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: rules to release him. There's another hearing that's going to 597 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: be coming up next week. 598 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: There's The Washington Post had details of what he was doing. 599 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: They recorded himself walking in the neighborhood, saying he was 600 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: looking for entrance points and tunnels underneath their houses, referring 601 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: to Obama's house and John Podesta's house, who used to 602 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: be the chairman of Hillary Clinton's campaign. Taranto said he 603 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: had control of the block and said he was trying 604 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: to get a shot and a good angle on a shot. 605 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: He was monitored by Secret Service agents and taken into custody, 606 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: and they had an FBI bomb squad, a canine unit. 607 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: They found a machete, four hundred rounds of ammunition, two handguns, 608 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: two nine millimeters pistols were among twenty firearms registered to Toronto, 609 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: but the other eighteen they don't know where those are. 610 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: He apparently traveled from Washington State and was living out 611 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: of his van. 612 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: There was a report from the Associated Press that that 613 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: Trump had put up the Obama's Washington, DC address on 614 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: social media recently. Yeah, and that may have been a 615 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: cue for this guy. It's a good idea, really, you 616 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: put up you put up Obama's address on your social 617 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: media when you have so many lunatics following you. Yeah, 618 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard not to think that Trump wants 619 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: something spectacular to happen. I you get that. Well, he 620 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: always says he loves chaos. Yeah, but this is this 621 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: is this is this is chaos to the extreme here. 622 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it says here. 623 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: They had to chase him a short pursuit on foot, 624 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: and they eventually caught him and a dog detected gunpowder 625 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: and gunpowder in his van, hundreds of rounds of nine 626 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: millimeter ammunition, two guns inside, as well as a machete, 627 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: but no actual explosives were found in the vehicle. They 628 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: think he moved across the country two months ago living 629 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: in his van. He was a regular outside the DC 630 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: jail where many January sixth defendants are being held, before 631 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: he was banned by other protesters. 632 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 3: Other protesters banned them. 633 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a qnon guy. Did you see the other 634 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: QAnon guy who died? No? No, this guy Michael Prattsman. 635 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: He died in a dirt bike crash, sixty years old. 636 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: He was the one who originally claimed that JFK would reappear, 637 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: Oh right, JFK would reappear at Dealey Plaza the side 638 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: of his assassination that he said that JFK and his 639 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: son JFK Junior were alive, And then Kennedy was going 640 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: to reinstate Trump as president and then persecute the global 641 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: cabal of peteophiliac blood drinking liberal elites. And that goes 642 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: back to Pizza Gate, right right, Yeah, exactly, the child 643 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: sex ring that was being run out of a Washington, 644 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: DC pizza parlors. He would he would tell he will 645 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: never die. He would tell people he was in direct 646 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: contact with Trump and that the former president was JFK. 647 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: Junior in disguise. And now some of his followers, Protsman followers, 648 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: don't believe he's dead. 649 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 3: Oh they don't believe, of course. 650 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: Now they quote Shelley muenex if that was the plan 651 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: God had for him. I know everything is going to 652 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: be revealed soon. Hmm. It's all part of the plan. 653 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: You know, six degrees of separation. 654 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: I ran into somebody this weekend who fork a new 655 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: job not that long ago, and she was telling me that, Yeah, 656 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: one of her co workers believes that most of the 657 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: people in power are impostors. That uh, that that belief 658 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: that they're all fake, that that they're either wearing masks 659 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: or or whatever they're impersonating, and eventually. 660 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: They'll all be rounded up and taken into custody. 661 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: Now, the former president, the other former president's story is 662 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: about Trump, but it's not about Donald Trump and sex. 663 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: It's Donald Trump Junior. There's a singer I've ever heard of, 664 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: Aubrey O'Day. I had to look her up. I've heard 665 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: of her, but I don't know anything about her. She's 666 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: claiming that she began having sex with Donald Trump Junior, 667 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: and of all places, it was in a gay club bathroom. 668 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: How about that. 669 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: I was hosting a gay club and our first time 670 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: going out together. He wanted to see me so bad. 671 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: I told him, well, I'm going to be at a 672 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: gay club tonight. So we showed up, and I'm talking 673 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: about this as one of the biggest gay parties. 674 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: In New York. It's a huge bleeping club. Everyone was 675 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: in a G string or less. She says, G stringer less. 676 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: That's right, So I guess we're nude. 677 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 2: She thought there was no way he would come, but 678 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: he did come to the club. I looked at his 679 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: Instagram for the first time in years and saw all 680 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 2: kinds of jokes about littling in the gay community. I said, man, 681 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: you were super comfortable in that gay club. And she says, 682 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 2: we ended up going to the bathroom for the first time. 683 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 2: I had sex with him in a gay club bathroom. 684 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: That's her allegation. I don't know, how could you make 685 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: that up? I don't know, says. They allegedly began having 686 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: feelings for each other while working on Oh Celebrity Apprentice 687 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: at twenty eleven. That's how they met. Oh. 688 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: I think we noticed pretty quickly that we laughed every 689 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: time everyone else wasn't laughing. We would wink at each 690 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 2: other and when something was funny but nobody else was 691 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 2: willing to admit it. 692 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: Now, is he the one with Kimberly Guilfoyle or is 693 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: he the one with the he is? Yeah, Oh, he 694 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: divorced his wife along the way right. 695 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: Trump was married to his first wife, Vanessa Trump, at 696 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: the time of the alleged affair, but they they divorced 697 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen and they share five children. 698 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 3: So all right, Coming up next, Steve Gregory. 699 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: KFI News is covering the story out of Lancaster, where 700 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: a couple of La County Sheriff's deputies have been disciplined. 701 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: There is a video taken by a bystander along with 702 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 2: the bodycam video of the police officers, where they apparently 703 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 2: slammed a woman to the ground. Sheriff Luna called it 704 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: disturbing at a press conference yesterday, says there'll be a 705 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 2: thorough review of the confrontation. 706 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 3: We'll give you the whole story as. 707 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: We know it, and we'll find out more has happened 708 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: outside a grocery store in Lancaster. Back on June twenty fourth, 709 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: Johnny KENKFI AM six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app, Debor 710 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: Mark Live the twenty four hour CAFI Newsroom. Hey, you've 711 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 2: been listening to the John and Ken Show. You can 712 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: always hear us live on CAFI AM six forty one 713 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of 714 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 2: course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app