1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just keep a real straight shot with no Jason. 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a little bit rougher. I'm here for it. 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Those who really believe in the American process, all of us. 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: Straight Shot, no Chason, what's your Girl? Testlam figure out? 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: On the Black Effect podcasting that word, what's happening straight Shoots? 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: This is your girl Testla figure out? Back again for 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: another episode of straight Shot, No Chaser. This week we 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: have someone from the Black Effect podcast family. As you know, 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: Black Effect podcast Network is bringing you all of the 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: different flavor conversations, everything from politics to hip hop to culture, 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: and this week we have one of the co hosts 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: of The What, where they deal with hip hop questions, 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: legends and lists. When I saw that title, I really 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: was interested in wanting to know exactly what it was. 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: So Mouse Jones is here to chop it up with me. 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: His other co host is Nala, but we are going 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: to speak a moment with mouth Jones to see what's 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: happening with him. I know you're also the founder of 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Trap Karaoke. I want to touch on that a little bit, 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: but I did want to spend some moment to talk 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: about how you hooked up with the Black Effect podcast 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Network with Charlemagne and God and really what is the 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: what all about? Welcome to the show, Homie. Thank you 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: so much. Miss appreciate you. I appreciate you. Tell me 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: what the what means? Because just that alone, I was 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: kind of confused that hip Hop questions legends and lists? 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: What are the lists about? What is the legends about? 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: I get hip Hop Questions? But tell me what makes 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: this podcast different than most of your pop culture you 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: know podcasts? Well, the what obviously the name is a 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: throwback to the Biggie and Method Men song offer Ready 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: to Die, you know, um, and the podcast itself. I 33 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing before anything that that is different 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: than most of the podcast the hip hop podcast we 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: hear from is me and Nala are two of the 36 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: younger or youngest people in the game doing on it 37 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: right now, you know when it comes to you know, uh, 38 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: pundits upon culture and things that nature. Like, we're two 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: of the people on the younger spectrum, um talking about 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: these things that typically you would hear this from, you know, 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: especially these days, you hear from an old hip hop 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: legend or you know something like that. I think we 43 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: enter this space, uh from a learning and journalistic standpoint, 44 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're not experts. We're here to actually get 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: the answers behind these age old hip hop questions. But 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: on the same time, on the same token, we're gonna 47 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: we're posing new ones, right, Like a lot of the 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: questions will be discussing in the beginning our age old 49 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: questions that really never had an answer, and we go 50 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: deeper to find that answer. Me an example of that, 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: So our first episode is who's the current queen of 52 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: hip hop? Not only do we ask that question, right, 53 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: because that's the surface level, that's easy, that's a debate, 54 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: but then we all then we talked to Kim Osorio 55 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: about you know, is even trying to place this crown 56 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: on somebody is divisive? Is that toxic? Does that breathe 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: and airb contempt among um? Women should be viewing each 58 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: other at peers, right, So we have that conversation and 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: nobody at least me, and now we don't go into 60 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: it with a preconceived notion. We're never entering this thing 61 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: anything but one bipartisans I'm caring now. That makes me 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: want to hear that because if you can just answer 63 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: that quickly before we go to the next thing when 64 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: you say it, just even putting the crown on someone, 65 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: does that bring contention? Hip hop is about contention. So 66 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: what was the answer? What was the overall, like bottom 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: line result on that answer, because I'm just curious. So 68 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: that's the beautiful thing. All all of us have three 69 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: different answers. Like me, I'm I'm a hip hop guy. 70 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: This is this is my life, this is what got 71 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: me to this point. I love it. I love people competing. 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: I love it. I love the smoke, I love the energy, 73 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: I love all of it. Um, I'm also not a woman. 74 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm also not a black woman, right, so I don't 75 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: deal with these nuancewers that may have a fallout from 76 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: everybody being in competition. Right, guys, we could be all 77 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: the time and nobody's ever gonna lose sleep, nobody's gonna 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: lose the opportunity with the women you know listening to 79 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: Chemo SORRYO and you know who she's dealt with, and 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: you know the artist that she's sat down with and 81 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: listening to the Nila upcoming woman in hip hop. You know, 82 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: I tend to look at that a little bit differently 83 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: now I'm like, oh wow, well maybe me. Maybe us 84 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: as hip hop fans having this blood lush all the time, 85 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: maybe it does. Uh, maybe it does have an ill 86 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: outcome on the people who we put it on. But 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna unpack that a little bit further. I know, 88 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: I want to get to the podcast, but you brought 89 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: up a topic. Now see why this is a good 90 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: podcast because now I want to talk about them. I 91 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: want to make this episode about that episode because you're not. 92 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you escape over that. So let's 93 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: go back. Let's go back to what you said about 94 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, well women don't cause so there's sexism in 95 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: hip hop and then there's um who's the queen of 96 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: hip hop? With your two totally different things. And I 97 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: want to make sure I'm hearing you right, because women 98 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: that get into hip hop are just as competitive that 99 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: are not solved are not Well, you know, I'm a 100 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: woman and they kind of guys compete all the time, 101 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: so do women. Um, So I know you're not saying 102 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: that women are not made for competition. Are you talking 103 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: more about the sexism involved in the space, because that's 104 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: two different things. So so when I said so, so, 105 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: my statement was more more so, No, what was completely 106 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: about the outcome. It's all about you know, well, men, 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: there's so many men in hip hop. Nobody's ever being pigeonholed. 108 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Hey only rap about this, only rap about that if 109 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: you go out this person, you're gonna lose the opportunity. 110 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I think with men, when there's competition in hip hop, 111 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: it's looked at a lot different. Right. If there's a 112 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: competition hip hop, it's this very linear thing. It's just 113 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: that it's just competition. When we're talking about, you know, 114 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: the nuances of sexism, agism, um, just black women being 115 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: able to uh embrace their sexual agency and liberation that 116 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: comes with with with consequences at times. Right, So if 117 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: if you're a woman and you go at the girl 118 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: at the top, all of those things we just talked about, sexism, agism, colorism, 119 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: all of these things. If you if you're at the 120 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: bottom of that, it could fall on you. We may 121 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: never hear from you again. I got you. So you're saying, 122 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: in order to determine who the queen is, all of 123 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: those things play a factor in to determine who's the 124 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: most valued, which ultimately results into the age of them 125 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: sax and so okay that that makes sense because when 126 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: they're the king of hip hop, that doesn't that doesn't 127 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: take a toll on everybody who's not the king. When 128 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: we say, oh, who's the queen of hip hop? Who's 129 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: the queen of rap? That's you know, that could weigh uh, 130 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: that could weigh unevenly on those who are not considered 131 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: the queen. So I agree to that in somewhat though, 132 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: because I mean, and there's also you know, people have 133 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: different views. So New York may say the king of 134 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: hip hop is jay Z. We're in the South. That's 135 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: not the South king, you know, that's not They don't 136 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: look at jay Z the way everybody else man in 137 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: the East Coast. So I do think, I do think 138 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: there are some there's some room for people to determine, 139 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: you know, what they see as king or queen or 140 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: and that. And that even goes to But I hear 141 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: what you guys saying, and I think that's a great 142 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: topic to have. But I'm just adding my two hip 143 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: hop sense to it. When you said, guys can kind 144 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: of wrap about whatever and they have the room. I 145 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: guess it depends on what that is. What if we 146 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: really want to unpack that and be fair because if 147 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: we look at the top one hundred songs are the 148 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: top twenty five songs, they're actually all rapping about the 149 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: same ship. Um, there's underground people that do quite well 150 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: but are not considered. So first it's all about, Okay, 151 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: who's popular? What are we considering good music? Is it 152 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: based on what they play on the radio? Is it 153 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: based on what's popul what's popular? Is it based on fans? 154 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Is based on more of a cult like following, and 155 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: that even still a play. And I'm be saying from 156 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: a woman's perspective because I know a lot of especially 157 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: if a man sitting down with a woman, you're you're 158 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: definitely what I appreciate, You're allowing space for us to 159 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: have those sensitivities. But as a woman and auntie, I'm 160 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: pulling back on what they probably didn't say to challenge 161 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: them in some areas as well, because hip hop is 162 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: not designed for anybody, male or female to not understand 163 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: you have to navigate different waters, and so whether that's 164 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: female or male, I don't want women to be placed 165 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: in a space where now we're expecting to get certain passes, 166 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: because if you are expecting to get certain passes, then 167 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: you can't talk about how you boss up like a man, 168 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: you get money like a man, you have sex like 169 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: a man, you have sex like a pimp. You a pimper, 170 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: this and that you have to make a choice on 171 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: either you're gonna you're gonna roll with the niggers are 172 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna roll dick? So we can't as a woman. 173 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: We also have to be very careful. You know, there's 174 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: comments where people say, if you act like a man, 175 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: then you're not a lady. And so now what women 176 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: bring to hip hop is a lot of masculinity, and 177 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: that's okay. I'm a freestyle battle. I can freestyle battle 178 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: most of these women who can't battle at all. So 179 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: when you're walking into that space, you have to also understand, Yeah, 180 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: what comes with that is also you're in a man's space. 181 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: That's a majority man. So when I was at M 182 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: six to gunner in the military, it was only eleven females. 183 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: I couldn't go into that space and say, well, you know, 184 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: if you say this, it's gonna affect this, and it's 185 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: gonna affect that, this, this, and that. No neigga first 186 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: neiggata laid out, the first one to fall fall out. 187 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna be the first one to fall out. I'll 188 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: beat many men when it came to rut sacking and 189 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: who could go to distance. So although there is some 190 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: acknowledgement that we need to have for women, I'm just 191 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: saying just giving it to you from a woman's standpoint, 192 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: and more than likely an older woman than the women 193 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: you know you had a conversation with that it's not 194 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: necessarily true that it's okay for you to get this path. 195 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to be the queen because it's gonna 196 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: make everybody else think that that's what the queen looked like. 197 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: That's the same way with men. When people ask me 198 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: who's your favorite hip hop artist, and the conversation is 199 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: always about is it Biggie or a pocket? Is he 200 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: the best of all times? Pot To me, it's not 201 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: what I consider the greatest of all times. It's not 202 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: your great. You're great. Maybe the way Biggie flowed, the 203 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: way he you know, his lyrics were, the way he 204 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: put a song together. My great is Tupac as a revolutionary, 205 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: more of him being a revolutionary than he was necessarily 206 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: a lyricist, are necessarily a rapper. It was who he was, 207 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: and his consciousness, the fact that there's articles and papers 208 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: in classes in college based upon Tupac compared to Biggie. 209 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: So I do want to say in fairness that whoever 210 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: you see is the queen of the king is who 211 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: you see, and your king is not my king, and 212 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: your queen is not my queen. But I want to 213 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: say to the ladies that listening and to those that 214 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: follow your show, the nalysis you. If you're gonna come 215 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: into this space, you have to be prepared not only 216 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: to be as good and if not better as another 217 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: female and see, but also able to send these niggas 218 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: like you lyrics. So when we look at people like Rhapsody, 219 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: she's not rapping about what Mega Stagion is rapping about, 220 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: she's not rapping about what Nicki Minaj's rapping about, but 221 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: she's still holding her own. So there are artists out 222 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: there that do that. And if people don't gravitate towards 223 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: what they you know, towards the music, that's just their style, 224 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I had a show earlier 225 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: on at the beginning that touched the reason why I 226 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: wanted to pause on this. I wasn't expecting this to 227 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: be I guess this is what the show became about. 228 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: But I had a show earlier on the beginning of 229 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: my season with Sugar t Um, who was a part 230 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: of the click, you know, in Efort, and we had 231 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: this same conversation about agism and you know, not respecting 232 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: the legends. What I would say is the female legends 233 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: are not respected now as they should be for the 234 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: dudes they've been paid, you know. But I say that 235 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: also in anything that's you know, especially male dominated, whether 236 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: it's the hood, whether it's gang banging. You know. I've 237 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: had Sylvia None on my show, that she should be 238 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: respected like a general, just like a lot of the 239 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: guys that come out the streets, you know, and and 240 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: and switch their life. Whether it's m c ad or 241 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, whoever it is, she should be you know, 242 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: part of that respect, you know, based on what she's 243 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: absolutely so I think that is a female male dynamic. 244 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: I think it goes further than the hip hop. I 245 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: think it did in the street culture, and I just 246 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: think it just comes from anything that's pretty much male dominating. Yeah, 247 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's all underneath the you know, the tyranny 248 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: of patriarchy, right, And it's like, you know, there's patriarchy, 249 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: and then it's what I call like a black patriarchy, 250 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: which is like just like the more incessant fallout. Right, 251 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: Like if if if I'm if I'm a black man 252 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: and i gotta go out in the world and I 253 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: deal with all this white patriarchy, if I'm not cognizant 254 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: of what's going on, I'm gonna take that back into 255 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: my community. I'm gonna put that into my kids, I'm 256 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: gonna put that into my relationships, I'm gonna put that 257 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: into my neighboring, my community at home. Right. And so 258 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: that's why I tell such the stands I do when 259 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: it just comes to any black issues, Like listen, it's 260 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: not what you're looking at. It's a lot bigger. It's 261 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: just like you said, it's it's not just hip hop, 262 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: it's not just sports. This is this is this ugly, ugly, 263 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: ugly version of patriarchy that we're you know, we're performing 264 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: in the black community that if we were able to unlearn, 265 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: then we wouldn't have these issues. We would be able 266 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: to talk about hip hop artists just hip hop artists, 267 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: not male or female. Right, We wouldn't because we would 268 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: allow the city girls, the Megs, the Cardis, we could. 269 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: We would allow them to rap about all that they 270 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: wrap about, and that be what they wrap about, and 271 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: then we could accept the Rhapsodies and the the Ochekas 272 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: and the Nicki Minacus. I guess my confusion as we are, 273 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: who's saying that we're not because they don't have the 274 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: same level of popularity. Um, well, yeah, I mean I 275 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: think for us as fans, I don't think we I 276 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: think once you reach a certain age and and you 277 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: you have a certain understanding of what it is to 278 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: really support an artists, you don't care about that, right, 279 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: We don't care about I don't think anybody on this 280 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: understand if you cares about what anybody else says about 281 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: somebody we're a fan of, because we're gonna still, you know, 282 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: consume that music and love it and and do that. 283 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: At the younger ages, these kids are really you know, formidable, 284 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: and they're and they're really influenced by what's popular. So 285 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: there might be a kid right now who loves Rhapsody, 286 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: but that's not what being played in the club, that's 287 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: not being on a TV. Absolutely, And it's because I 288 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: mean again when you talk about white supremacy and white supremacy, 289 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: supremacy structures most things that support and hey, I grew 290 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: up on Little Camp, so I am a little kim. 291 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm not a I mean I appreciate it, you know, 292 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: quintality for em c light a little bit before me, 293 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: like my my air came from Little Camp. So bottom 294 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: line negative at all. But I was a part of 295 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: a street culture that that was normalized in that way. 296 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: And so when you're dealing with I guess, quote unquote 297 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: toxic a masculinity, if you will, I dated against us. 298 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: She was the counter to that. Um So that was 299 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: the conditioning that I was brought up in. But that 300 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: didn't mean there weren't other artists. You know that we're 301 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: just as good. But it's the system itself that pushes 302 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: a lot of those artists up more so than they 303 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: do other things. But it's not just hip hop. Is 304 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: everything evolved around that? I guess is that what you're saying. 305 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: But but I don't think it's a we can make 306 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: space for like us as a community. It these are 307 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: these executives that's doing this. They're making this decision because 308 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: sex sells. It hasn't it always will. And so when 309 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Little Kim said I'm first bitched to rock the mic 310 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: and stilettos, that was a selling thing and it will 311 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: always say. Women will always be women over me, and 312 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: so women ascent titties will always sell. I mean, let's 313 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: just call it what it is. So when you're when 314 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: you're pushing that as an agenda, and this structure is 315 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: pushing that as an agenda to sexualize black women like 316 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: they have since the beginning of time. Where's the confusion? 317 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, either you it that? Are you not that? 318 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: My kid loves BTS. She's a huge K pop. She 319 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: loves the way that yeah, oh man, yeah, they're like major. 320 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean she doesn't. She doesn't um and see in 321 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: this age because I love it, you know, I love 322 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: it because I would rather her, even though her mama 323 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: listen to WOP. I would rather her because she said, Mama, 324 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: their music is really positive and they really talk about 325 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: loving yourself and all this kind of stuff. So for me, 326 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: I love it, you hate it. I love it because 327 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: I would rather her as cornball as it is. I 328 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: would rather her have those things poured into her rather 329 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: than talking about Meg the Stallion's latest thing. On Thought 330 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: on thought life, but her mama listening to it. But 331 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm keeping but what would you rather? So when you say, well, 332 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: we gotta make room, and then now you're saying, well, 333 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: I hate the fact that they love BTS, let me 334 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: ask you why is that? If you're saying that, you 335 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: know there needs to be space for you know, BTS 336 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: in in today's like the community. I mean, yeah, there's 337 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: that or obvious like that's the glaring one, but it's 338 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: just like it's the phenomenon of it all. You know, 339 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: they're not really making good music. But you know, are 340 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: we expecting our kids to be um music analysts at 341 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: this age? No music? What the terms good music? Um? 342 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: I think that music is just it's it's uh soulless, right. 343 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: I always have a problem with soulless music, like quote 344 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: the quote unquote pop music of when I was growing up, 345 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: of you know, probably of your generation, like the New 346 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: Kids and the Backstreet Boys and the Instincts, the Britain 347 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: Spisch because these are all soulless records that you kind 348 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: of could have placed anybody in to make these spots, 349 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think you kind of 350 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: brought in more too. Whoever the machine pushed in front 351 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: of you than the actual product. Um, So that's what 352 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: I'm so when I think of BTS, that's why all 353 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: I see is like, Okay, that's just that's two thousand 354 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: twenty one Backstreet Boys, Like there's no But I guess 355 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: so when you say not really there what a story 356 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: that you identify with no to for getting me. I'm 357 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: just talking about like, if you just listen to the music, 358 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: the music doesn't make you feel anything, right, it's the machine. 359 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: It's the machine that was marketed. This is just what 360 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: they're selling. BTS could sell bubble gum at this point. 361 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: They're so hot, you know what I'm saying, and agree 362 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: with them, But I guess she says she likes them 363 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: talking about love and loving yourself and caring about yourself. 364 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: She broke down some metaphors on him and I was 365 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: just listening, but something about the moon and the ocean 366 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: and how smart he was, you know. So I'm talking 367 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: about So let me ask you, your brother, when you say, well, 368 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: you're not feeling anything, what do you feel from hip hop? 369 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: I feel the I feel so much when it comes 370 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: to a pop right, um, and this will probably be 371 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: like the deepest answer I'll ever give us. Like you know, 372 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: I feel I feel a protest, right. I tell people 373 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: all the times when i's a protective hip hop like 374 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: it was, especially when it comes to white people entering 375 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: the space or non black people entering the space. This 376 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: music was created in protest, you know what I mean. 377 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: This music was the sound of a struggle. And I 378 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: feel that every time. It doesn't matter if I'm listening 379 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: to Eric this president, then it doesn't matter, Mad, that 380 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. If I'm listening to catch the beat, doesn't 381 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: matter if I'm listening to the four four four. Yeah, 382 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: And I'm with you on that. That's why I said 383 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: culture vulture when I gave you that one, as that's 384 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: the issue, Like let's call that's the issue culture vote 385 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: And you said, yeah, that's the obvious. But x y Z, 386 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that sounds like that is the issue. 387 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: This ship is created for us to talk about our stories. 388 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: And when you say I don't feel anything and I 389 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: want to feel our story, a lot of our story 390 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: is a lot of those negative images. That's what I'm saying, 391 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: that we're saying what we want to allow room for 392 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: x y Z you know, I'm just giving you something 393 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: to think about it. Like to her, she absolutely feels 394 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: it from a positive standpoint, and her being fourteen just 395 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: turning fourteen. I would rather her listen to that than 396 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: what because when I was connecting to Little Kim's story, 397 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: I was living that lifestyle. And had I not went 398 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: in a different direction, um, you know me being influenced 399 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: by that, are living that or you know, just didn't 400 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: have just by luck and grace and faith, I don't 401 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: know how my life would have turned out. So kind 402 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: of goes back to what your saying on you know, 403 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: these stories we uplift, you know, their their stories that 404 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: when you look at the top ten songs, they would 405 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: some would say that those songs are pushed by the machine, 406 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: just like to BTS. The only difference is is our 407 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: community talking about fucking and shooting and killing and selling 408 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: dope and drinking lean and doing dope. And so I think, yeah, 409 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: I think it's it's a little rough for for them 410 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: to try and boxes and because we do encompass all 411 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: of that, right, and I find beauty and all of that, 412 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: And I know you're like, oh, you're just so black whatever, right, 413 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: because what's the opposite. Right, The opposite is me um 414 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: trying to police black people and they're creative and their story. Listen, 415 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: if they put it out, either I'm gonna listen to 416 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: it or I'm not. But I'm gonna mix space for 417 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: everybody to have the opportunity release it. Right. It's so 418 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: funny you was he was talking about, you know in 419 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: fourteen year old you know you rather her listen to 420 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: b test don't why I'd rather her understand hip hop? 421 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: I really rather be just a revolutionary like me. That's 422 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: my preference. But when I when I'm talking about because 423 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: I want to be clear, I don't if she gets 424 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: up said why you don't, and I talk the baby 425 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm a lyricist. I don't understand what they're saying. I mean, 426 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: I literally can't listen to something I don't know you 427 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: ever to beat no, but I got understand it. So 428 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: just to be clear, I'm revolutionary, I will first she 429 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: being what I'm into. But if I had to make 430 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: a choice, when I look at the influence of female rappers, 431 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: just going back to you know what we talked about, 432 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: when I look at what female artists are talking about 433 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: and not judging because I was listening to little Kimp. 434 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: I would rather her now, being me a parent, I 435 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: would rather her listen to that corny ship soul is 436 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: ship you're talking about, rather than all the soul that's 437 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: brought in whop. So even though I embrace it, and 438 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: I embraced all of that, I'm gonna need her to 439 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: embrace you know, love and all of that because I'm 440 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: trying to keep on the path of cornball ship. So 441 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: that's as a parent, you know, I'm not trying to 442 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: teach her back. There's a lot of sexually liberated um 443 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: you know, cornball, and that's it's kind of like what 444 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: I want from my my daughters, right, And it's so 445 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: rough being sexually liberalated cornbox. Y'all don't have the big sex. 446 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: Are you a sexually liberated cornball? I don't think I'm 447 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: a hornball. No, Like I talked about sex on this 448 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: show too, because I want to be clear. So I 449 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: just don't think I'm a corn boy. I'm actually liberated, 450 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: but I ain't a cornable. But what I said that 451 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: is like you told me the sexual liberator cornball. Let's 452 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: let's unpack that. Let's stay right. When the women are 453 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: out there, they are out here and they all you know, 454 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: they're they're working in stem and they're doing that nine 455 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: to five thing, but when their home and the doors closed, 456 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: but there ain't nothing like well, I just want to 457 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: talk about sex on about listen, you're not okay, because 458 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: I want to make sure because it's a big thing. 459 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: Let's get a click. And I also what you think, 460 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: because let's make sure that people from the hood have 461 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: different sex than car. So I just wanted to because 462 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: that's one of the things I talked about a lot 463 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: where they say, oh, don't get it twisted. After five 464 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't need to get it twisted. I know based 465 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: on the fact that you type all day long, type 466 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: and type and the type and type and type of tide, 467 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: I know you don't put it down like the home. 468 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: And I just want to make that clear because there 469 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: was actually represh here. There's some sexual repression going on. 470 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: Correct that you're just not able to correct. Some of 471 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: y'all need to put the disk back in respect. It's 472 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 1: disrespect of the bedroom. So I just want to make 473 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: sure before we hopped over that I wanted. I wanted to. 474 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: I've trying to tell you they go time. I'm like listen, bro, 475 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: you you you got a good job. There's no way 476 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: I might need it. I would hit it a little. 477 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: Just that's true. You bring a different level of frustration. 478 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: And you know it's known the more less money he got, 479 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: the better heat. This is what they say. You know. 480 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, I've been telling my man, but you know 481 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: where you're sleeping the night, You're not gonna have sex 482 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: better than me, Tony. I don't know where I'm gonna 483 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: end up sleeping night, but I know I'm sleeping somewhere. Absolutely. 484 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: I'm glad we got that cleared about me and to 485 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: stop on that. But I wanted to anytime we start 486 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: talking about sex, it's like, hold on, rewind, let's go 487 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: back talk about I really enjoyed, you know, I tell 488 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: you I really enjoyed the space that I'm in a 489 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: father at thirty two, I have a I have a 490 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: fourteen year old, and I have a nine year old. 491 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: Get yeah, put it in yeah. But I'm give the 492 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: space of like, I'm just so blessed. I've been in 493 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: the space like constant unlearning right because I've never been 494 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: attached to any of these thought processes that I see 495 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: my counterparts in my peers having a hard time on 496 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: learning right, and with me, it was like, oh, this 497 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: ain't healthy for like this, This isn't a healthy thing. 498 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: This isn't a healthy or conducive atmosphere to upbringing a 499 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: black woman. Let me fix it, Okay, let me fix it. 500 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: So like with me, there's no it all, it all 501 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: comes together because there's no rules on creativity in my household. 502 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, My fourteenyear old, go ahead, 503 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: I want you to listen to why, you know why, 504 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: because I would much rather you be. I would much 505 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: rather you hear it on your own than in defiance. 506 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: And I think you know, a lot of the female 507 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: hip hop artist that we love, um, the little kids, 508 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: the Foxies, give me exit, You're You're sugar, all of it. 509 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: They kind of exists in this form of protest that 510 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: they don't even know they're protesting. And they're just like, 511 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, where where is the US? Yeah? Well, 512 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: my generation is very where where that they were in 513 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: form in protests. And just what I would say about 514 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: that is when it comes to school and my daughter, 515 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: it's not about listening to watch you know, with me 516 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: is school game? You know what I'm saying. So That's 517 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: another thing, you know, when we talk about music, like 518 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: how far did this ship go? With kids? If if 519 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: music is raising your kids, it's an issue. What I 520 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: was saying was, I'd rather because she listen to music 521 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: all day long, so I'd rather something positive be reinforcing 522 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: her all day long. I don't give it them what 523 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: it is if it's you don't. We just don't have 524 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: a lot of positive Wrapp's popular. Just being honest with you. 525 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, if I had to have a choice, 526 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: I have a fourteen year old girl, I would rather 527 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: herd here, love, love or whatever they're saying, then wet 528 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: ass pussy in her ear over and over and over. Um. 529 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: That's just as a parent. Um. But I hear you're saying, 530 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: like on a listen, I would rather you here and 531 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: being bright. I hear that, But we're still talking about 532 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: a little girl as a month, so I'm not Yeah, 533 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: definitely a line, right, there's the line of like, hey, listen, 534 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't you know, don't go to Cardi and Meg's 535 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: music for your parenting. But you know, also, I'm not 536 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna hide this form of black woman expressionism, 537 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: right because I can't. I can't speak to that. So 538 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: where you may speak to it, I gotta as a man, 539 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: as a black man, have to understand, like, all right, 540 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: I may not be a speak to that. So let 541 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: me back. But Mama, you got it. You got this 542 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: one right, right, And that's important and women have to 543 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: and women have to yield that power to black men 544 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: as well, allowing black men, you know, to have certain conversations. 545 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: And she said, because I was just talking about that 546 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: this morning, I was saying, I think, as strong as 547 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: I am, I think some conversations need to be led 548 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: led by men, and that's okay, and some conversations to 549 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: be led by women because I give my daughter the 550 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: game on how to navigate, you know, with men are 551 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: boys or this is what you're gonna encounter and this 552 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: is and I am going to see it differently as 553 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: a woman as you should as a man, because those 554 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: experiences are different. And so that that's most and I 555 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: know this is probably gonna, you know, be a hot 556 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: tike conversation. I think most of those conversations should be 557 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: had by women, right, I think most of these important 558 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: conversations in our community should be had by women. I think, yes, 559 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: some should be had by men. But to be honest, 560 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: I think it's a very to more a portion. The 561 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: only reason I say that is because men don't have 562 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: to survive with women, if that makes sense, right, Men 563 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: don't have to survive toxic femininity. Right, women have to 564 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: live as women. But then you, guys, also have to 565 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: survive toxic masculinity. You also have to survive manhood, so 566 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: that you gotta exists in the space where here's the 567 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: advices on womanhood, here's the advices on surviving men right 568 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: where we can only speak to Hey, we'll protect you. Hey, 569 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: well stas for you, but we can't really give you. 570 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: And maybe one day we can as a whole, but 571 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: we can't really give You'll never be because you're not 572 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: a woman. But I think it's important to have a 573 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: balanced conversation. I think male and female energy is important 574 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: and that can happen in one conversation like we're doing that. 575 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: We're having male female energy. We've talked about sex, We've 576 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: talked about cornballs, ex We've talked about you know, protests, 577 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about what it means for kids 578 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: to listen to music. You and I got a kid. 579 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: The same age that I didn't know. I just found 580 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: it out talking to you. They listen to the same music. 581 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: My perspective on that or respect on that. So that 582 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: was a male female conversation. It's not a matter of well, 583 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: who's gonna necessarily lead this conversation, who's in charge of it? 584 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: And that's where I feel Black men and women where 585 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: we always break down because number one, we come so 586 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: broken already, were a lot of broken pieces, so it's 587 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: like a puzzle trying to connect, and we never connect 588 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: that dot. And that's in a lot of people don't 589 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: like this, but I understand why black men date outside 590 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: of the race, why Black women are starting to date 591 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: outside of their race, not because they're not broken and 592 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: they don't have issues. But what I'm learning is because 593 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: we have so much internal brokenness that as a people, 594 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: and we're getting with you and you got all my 595 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: past trauma and I got all your past trauma and 596 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: all the generational curses that are attached to us, that 597 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: it is such a and you're competing with your manhood 598 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: on who's the man outside of the house, and then 599 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: now you got to compete with me, And I'm competing 600 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: with not only being black, but also a black woman, 601 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: and a lot of people who are against are black men. 602 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: So now I'm competing against that. And now I'm at home, 603 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: and now you're upset because black women are surpassing men 604 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: and education and income and all of that, and now 605 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: I have to I gotta deal with you and you 606 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: being in charge and who's in charge and not in 607 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: charge and all of this different bullshit because it's always 608 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: this race to say I am the leader and the 609 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: king and the queen instead of just understanding that we 610 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: need each other and that energy is important, and I 611 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: got something to contribute to the conversation. You got something 612 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: to contribute to the the conversation. And it's not a you know, 613 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: a right or wrong. It's just Mama gonna tell you 614 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: this is how to deal with men in this instant. 615 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: But her daddy can also say when we see women 616 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: like this, this is what we think, because I can't 617 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: give that opinion. But hell, you know so, I think 618 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: it's it all comes down to communication and not this 619 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: race on who's going to leave exactly. It's I'm a 620 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: one million percent degree right. It's all about creating this 621 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: safe space, right, and everybody in the safe space and 622 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: always things like safe space from what oh is it? 623 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: Who are you protecting it? It's not about it's about 624 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: like a literal incubation, right, Like a baby is in 625 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: the womb for nine months? What are they doing there 626 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: being it's a protective thing. They're growing into this healthy thing, right, 627 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: what are we doing when we're trying to come together. 628 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: We're trying to create this healthy thing. And it has 629 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: to be a safe space where you're you're you're you're 630 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: validated as a woman, I'm validated as a man, and 631 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: then we validate each other. Right. And it's like and 632 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: and somebody might listen to be like what does this 633 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: guy do with the pen pop podcast? It's all the 634 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: same thing because if we're over there as men validating 635 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: our female counterparts, then we don't have this pushback that 636 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: we're always complaining about. And and like I said, yes, 637 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: it's something that needs to exist as a circle, but 638 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: we have two men, black men specifically, we have to 639 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: take uh, we have to take accountability for this pendulum swing. Right. 640 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: So right now, it's been over here with us for 641 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: so long, it's been over there for so long, and 642 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: women have somehow you guys cut it, and that was swung, 643 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: and now it's over there and we're looking like, oh 644 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: my god, look at me having so much fun. They 645 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: saying they hose. We can't even call them hold because 646 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: they already said they hose. Oh my goodness. They they 647 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: already calling each other bitches. What are we gonna do? 648 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: You let that thing come back to the middle and 649 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: you hold one side and they hold one side. Now 650 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: we have something that is equally safe for everybody. That's 651 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: all I really want, no matter what the space is, 652 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: whether it's hip hop sports, just as black people relationship, 653 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: just let's have this equal, healthy thing. Let's not let's 654 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: not we got so much going against us already outside. 655 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: Let's remove some of that ship when we're inside, and 656 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: let's hold it together. It's just like the hold the line, 657 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: right like when I was in the Navy. That's that's 658 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: all our members who going down the campaign and just 659 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: be having having that that that that breacher and I like, 660 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: hold the line. I don't know, but that's my slogan. 661 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: Push the line politics until something happens. But I didn't 662 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: get there from my military experience. I got there from 663 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: the street. But you're absolutely right. But I would just 664 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: say I dig everything you said, except the only part 665 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: where I always make a point to say it's not 666 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: for everybody, you know, it really is. And even when 667 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: I talk about soldiers, I don't want accomplixes. I don't 668 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: want to allies because y'all can switch it up. I'm 669 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: looking for frontline soldiers. I want black people to start 670 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: connecting to like minds, to start understand that everybody's not 671 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: gonna go to start understand because what happens is we 672 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: started using a lot of energy for people who are 673 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: just not healed. You're thirty two years old and we 674 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: just had a male female conversation that I can't have 675 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: ship just two weeks ago with seven minutes. Damn, they're 676 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: seventy something years old. So it's not always you know age, 677 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: It's about wisdom, it's about healing. It's about being able 678 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: to bounce off each other with at you getting offended 679 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: and what do you mean? What do you mean? What 680 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say that this constant thing all the time. 681 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: So that comes with wisdom and the desire and desire 682 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: to understand what it is you mean by that, asking 683 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: more questions and listening, but still giving in puple to 684 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: ask the questions. So when your show says the what 685 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: hip hop questions, it's starting out with asking a question. 686 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: And I think as long as you continue, we continue 687 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: those of us who are afraid, not afraid to ask 688 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: questions because it may be an answer that you don't like, 689 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, ask the question and be open to hearing 690 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: that and saying, well, I see it this way. Not 691 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: saying you're right a wrong, but this is my opinion. 692 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: I think we'll go much further. But when I say we, 693 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about everybody, because everybody just ain't ready 694 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: and it don't matter what age they are, male, female, 695 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: how whatever it ridded us come down to how much 696 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: healing and we term we is not all encompassing. It 697 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: means we, you know, WE is actually more exclusive than 698 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: we'd have a you know, like to imagine it's way 699 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: more confirmation and like I've ever could imagine like just 700 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: hearing that, like yeah, like we ain't everybody. And I 701 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: think I think me sometimes in my stap, in my 702 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: my placing and in the media world, it's like I 703 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: get so frustrated because I'm like Nigga, I'm trying to 704 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: get us all together. You know, it's so hard talking 705 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: to ment. Sometimes it's like whether they're my age or 706 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: youngest like yo or older right, Like I have these 707 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: conversations with my dad, and my dad want the smartest 708 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: niggas I've ever met in my life, but he can 709 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: be so stubborn something. And I had to say one day, 710 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: they're like probably Father's day. He was having a complation, know, 711 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: like you know that stuff like you just can't come. 712 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: You just can't bottom line, like stop wasting your time, brother. 713 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: I mean if you look at anything, when you look 714 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: at Biblical and you look at you know, uh, nobody 715 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: set around the reason why Moses Moses never got to 716 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: the Promise lands because he spent too much time talking 717 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: to folks who wanted to be slaves. Even when they 718 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: were freed, even when he showed him everything that God 719 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: can do, they were insisting on still being in bonded you, 720 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 1: no matter what miracles they saw. And it took forty 721 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: years to finally get it. Joshua, the new generation goes 722 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: on over We're just gonna leave you over here. You know, 723 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: Moses didn't even he did all of that to get 724 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: them free and still didn't even get to go to 725 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: the Promise came because he was disobedient to his calling. 726 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: So you have to say, obedi into your calling when 727 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: you spend time. I'm trying to get us all we needed, 728 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: all we needed. The military don't do that. You say 729 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: he was in the military. Yeah, the military don't do that. 730 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: Nobody does that in the military. Basic training is all 731 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: about breaking your ass down and sending home who we 732 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: need to send home. So that's right. So let's think 733 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: about how war works. When war when we're going to 734 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: accomplish something and conquer something, and if we're talking about 735 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna conquer white supremacy or we want to conquer 736 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: with destroying our families, if we want to conquer this 737 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: male female divide, then think about your military training. And 738 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: you know each branch is different because the Army likes 739 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: to tease, the air force. The air Force like to 740 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: tease the Navy. And I tell people all the time 741 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: when the Army sail, we're using every wait a minute. 742 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: I was an M sixt gun on my nigga, don't 743 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: get it twisted. I was on uh MP rix. I 744 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: was with all the police. So when I went through 745 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: basic training, they let some people slide. But when I 746 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: went to security Police Academy. It was designed to make 747 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: sure that half of y'all went home because they didn't 748 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: want everybody to go through. So I look at it 749 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: like that, when you say hold the line and I 750 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: say push the line, everybody ain't on this line. So 751 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: these people will pour from you. They will, they will 752 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: drain your asks. Take it from me. Everybody not gonna go. 753 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 1: Some people just not gonna go. Let them stay where 754 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: they are and in time they'll get it. You're missing 755 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to ten or twenty other people 756 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: that's gonna ride with you. It's not about people having 757 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: a disagreement. You know. Lady the other day said, but 758 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: we all gotta have disagreements. No, ma'am, it's not about disagreement. 759 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: You're on my page every single time pushing establishment talking points, 760 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to tell you you need to go 761 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: be around, go funk with your tribe, because this is 762 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: not a democracy. This is the push the line dictatorship. 763 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: Everybody on this fucking page. When you you think about it, 764 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: what is social media? It's socializing. Do I go to 765 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: the club with somebody I'm not a like mind with, 766 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: We're not the same. But we have a like mind. 767 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: Do I hang out and socialize with people that are 768 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: totally on another No, I don't. So social media for me, 769 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: it's not about building numbers and everybody. That's when I'm 770 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: go on TV fifty five million people on when I'm 771 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: on Black News Channel or Fox News, that's what I'm 772 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: talking to the masses. But on my social pay I'm 773 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: trying to build a fucking army. And I don't want 774 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: you over here because no matter the topic, you're always 775 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: pushing pro savage around me. I don't want you. You're 776 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: not wanted seriously on followed me sis. So people have 777 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: to get into that type because I want her to 778 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: find hurt. You calling you need to go line up 779 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: with all of them. That's gonna push them licked. Because 780 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: your damn show not convincing me. So now I have 781 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: to understand what is your agenda, ma'am or because you 782 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: know you're not convincing convincing me. So now are you 783 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: trying to turn people that just might be ready to flip? Okay, Well, 784 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: if you're doing that, then now I look at you 785 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: as an opposition because it's too important on what it 786 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: is I'm trying to do to have you in here 787 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: fucking around and playing these passive aggressive mind games. Ma'am, 788 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: move on, you're not wanted here. You know, black people 789 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: we got a problem with telling people we won't everybody. No, 790 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't move on, and your mama too, You and 791 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: your mama. I don't want to with you. Let's just 792 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 1: be okay. Well saying don't want to funk with you, 793 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: and that don't mean that means I got true black love. 794 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: I got true black love because I'm woman enough to 795 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: tell you you're not my type, Sir. I don't like you, sir, 796 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: your sexist wack sir, everything about you, Sir. I don't 797 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: like always so that m and they got under when 798 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: he came here, but he got that's not my problem. 799 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: I don't like you and nothing about you. But I'm 800 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: gonna pick you up with somebody else and we're gonna 801 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: keep it pleasing. Yeah, we're gonna find somebody that We'll 802 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: find you a sextually liberated cornbulls. I'm not gonna sit 803 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: down and have black ass sex with you for the 804 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: second one. We just I gotta bring my people together. No, 805 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: that's not that is for me and what's serving me 806 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: and what serves me best and what keeps me motivated 807 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: in this game called the media. As we closed, brother, 808 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: this was a great conversation. I hope you leave encouraged 809 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: to keep doing what you're doing, and keep pushing the 810 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: line and and keep letting folks know, hey, when we 811 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: asked these questions hip hop questions, legends and lists, some 812 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: of your mother's ain't gonna be on the list. Some 813 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: of y'all don't have all the answers to the question. 814 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: You may not even old what to ask. But as 815 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: long as we continue to keep asking, as long as 816 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: we keep on pushing and dividing up who is for 817 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: us and who's against us, We're gonna move forward and 818 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,479 Speaker 1: just keep connecting on like minds because if not, they'll 819 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: break you. After this game. By the time you get 820 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: fifty and sixty, you got a long way to go. 821 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: Thirty two is still quite young, So you got a 822 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: long way to go, baby, and they'll they'll push you 823 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: at the game, so you gotta stand on what you 824 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: stand on and get you for a five riders baby, 825 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: and push. Thank you so much, Thank you so much. 826 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 1: You can call me. I'm not that old. You can 827 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: go ahead and call me test, because now it's making 828 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: me feel like I'm somebody on tes some ship. Yes test, OK, 829 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: I've been getting you know, it's so funny. I've only 830 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: got any trouble for calling people like I don't know 831 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: it's my grandmother, my grandmother's day from the south, so 832 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: even if home, so I'll be thanks like I look 833 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: like baby, I'm not your. Hey, I'm not your I 834 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: don't have no agent to miss you out your age, 835 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: your son, age, your daddy age, your grandpa. I can 836 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: get any of y'allo forty two fifty two eighty five, 837 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: so I don't have no ages. Some issues, this big 838 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: pimping over here, So that ain't what it is at all. 839 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: I was just saying that just for you know, just 840 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: to say it's big pamper. I can have you your homeboy, 841 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: your thirty year old ye old. That's who women got 842 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 1: issues they age. I don't. I really was just just 843 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a fan. Stand that's some women that 844 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: don't like the age. That's some women that don't Just 845 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: so you don't give you some game. I don't look 846 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: like a baby. I'm in my sexual prime. So when 847 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: they when they get to a certain that they should 848 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: embrace it. Yes, they should embrace that, the sexual prime. 849 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: So it's it's fine. I'm totally okay with being to 850 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 1: my sexual prime. But your woman may not be okay 851 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: with it, but I'm okay with it. So when you 852 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: see women say that, that that mean they've got lame and sex. 853 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna wrap it up. We appreciate you stopping, Bob Mouse. 854 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: I would love and we have more time for you 855 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: to talk about trapped karaoke and take that topic on 856 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: to the show and y'all talk about that women get 857 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: offended by age and all that are y'all say, y'all 858 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: weaken the bag because women who are sexually clear about 859 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: where they are, they're in their prime. So you know, 860 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm gonna reach out because I want to 861 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: have you with guy next door about that talk about six. 862 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: I'll talk about sex no matter what, no matter what 863 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: the opic is, I'm throwing why well, I don't let 864 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: everybody know trapp karaoke Uh the biggest blackest thing you'll 865 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: ever uh you know, O to yourself. Um. We are 866 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: back on the road August thirteen, August four team the 867 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: opening weekend. We're in Atlanta on August third, team for 868 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: in d C. August four team. We are completely sold out, 869 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: but I think we're releasing some special limited tickets. So 870 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: everybody head over the Trap Karaoke dot com and see 871 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: when we're coming to your city. Um, we're back, We're back, 872 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: and we're back each and every Monday. Make sure you 873 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: check out the What hip Hop Questions, Legends and lists 874 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: wherever you stream podcast, and shout out to tes Miss Marcy. 875 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 1: We sent out to Marcy to be last sheet stickle, 876 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 1: especially when I bring up six when it has literally 877 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: nothing to do what we're talking about. She's always amazed 878 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: how I just fitted in no matter what it takes 879 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: mastering to do this, it really does. So yeah, but no, 880 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: thank you so much, I hope, Oh yeah, absolutely always, honey. 881 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: I am excited. I didn't know what direction we were 882 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: gonna go in with this show, but I am very 883 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: pleased because it went in a whole another direction. And 884 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: before we leave, little Kim will always be I don't 885 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: give a damn what y'all say. There will never be 886 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: no Little Kim Slander will always be my queen. She 887 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: don't have to be the queen of hip hop, but 888 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: she damn show talked y'all to talk to y'all how 889 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: to do it, and every last one of y'all came 890 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: Autter Chapay a homage bottom line shout out to her 891 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: seeing her on the BT Awards. So alright, honey, it's 892 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 1: been good again. Check out the What hip Hop Questions 893 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: Legends and list right here on the Black Fact Podcast Network. 894 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: That has been your girl testing figure O piece. 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