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Speaker 1: Listen to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because Rotten

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Speaker 1: Karen or Hey, welcome to The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Rod, joined us always by my co

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Speaker 1: host Karen, and we are live on a Tuesday late

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Speaker 2: Don't talk to me nicely, Talk to us nicely.

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Speaker 1: The official weapon of the show is the folding chair

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Speaker 1: and the unofficial sport and bullet ball extreme extreme extreme.

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Speaker 1: Lots of stuff to talk about, but first I'll just

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Speaker 1: ask do you have any banters?

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Speaker 3: I do? All right? Do you have any? Do you

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Speaker 3: have any talk to me?

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Speaker 1: Do you have any answer? Answer? Answer, answer, answer? Do

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Speaker 1: you have any banters?

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Speaker 3: Answer?

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Speaker 4: Talk to me?

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Speaker 3: Do you have any banter? Banter? Banter, alca.

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Speaker 2: My first thing is this might be a thing. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I just never have seen it before.

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Speaker 4: Why we're in twenty twenty five and people use pads

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Speaker 4: and tampons. I've never seen a pad or tampon machine

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Speaker 4: that doesn't require that requires coins, and I've never seen

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Speaker 4: one where you can like tap the pay. All the

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Speaker 4: machines are normally like on a wall or something like that,

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Speaker 4: and it's normally like twenty five fifty cent. I was

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Speaker 4: thinking a lot of people don't carry cash like and

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Speaker 4: coins like on person. So if I'm somebody and I

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Speaker 4: have an incident and I'm in a bathroom and I

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Speaker 4: don't have change, how.

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Speaker 2: Am I supposed to get your product?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: And I'm wondering how many how many of those things

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Speaker 2: do they actually sell? Because I'm like, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Thinking, y'all don't have something on this machine, something on

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Speaker 4: this contraption that allows me to just boot and fifty cent,

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Speaker 4: you know, twenty seventy five cent a dollar or whatever,

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Speaker 4: and it just rolls out every single one I've seen

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Speaker 4: in my lifetime. Like I said, y'all might be living

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Speaker 4: in the future, but I've never seen one of these

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Speaker 4: machines and this put out business if they even have

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Speaker 4: them in the bathrooms anymore, that actually allow you to

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Speaker 4: pay electronically. And it's very confused because in my personal opinion,

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Speaker 4: those should be free in public restrooms because things happen

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Speaker 4: and everybody doesn't have the money, and sanitation, particularly menstrual sanitation,

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Speaker 4: is extremely expensive. Men don't give a fuck because men

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Speaker 4: don't have to pay for the shit, But it's expensive

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Speaker 4: and it happens moughly, and it cap is consistently, and

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Speaker 4: that shit adds up. It depends on your body and

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Speaker 4: things like that. You know, it's different, you know levels,

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Speaker 4: different types you have to using things like that. It's

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Speaker 4: it's and I know it could be very frustrating, particularly

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Speaker 4: for people that are unhoused or homeless. It is it

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Speaker 4: could be very frustrating because just because you ain't got

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Speaker 4: no where to live, it don't mean the shit don't

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Speaker 4: happen to you, just like everybody else.

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Speaker 1: So what what is the name of the machine? Like,

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Speaker 1: what's it called? I don't know anything about this because

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Speaker 1: obviously they don't have a men most men's bathroom.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they have like a machine. I don't

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Speaker 4: think they have like a quote unquote brand of machine.

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Speaker 4: It's just like when you go into most women's bathrooms,

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Speaker 4: it's normally like bolted to a wall, and you see

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Speaker 4: it like paths and tampons.

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Speaker 2: So sometimes it's.

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Speaker 3: Just you said, it's a vending machine or something.

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Speaker 4: That well, it looks like a vending machine, but but

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Speaker 4: it's not actually a Vendom machine. It's set up similar

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Speaker 4: to a Vendom machine. It's like you stack them in

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Speaker 4: there and you twist at the bottom and it falls out.

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Speaker 4: So that's why I said, like a Vendom machine.

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Speaker 3: But they only take change.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they normally take change. It's like fifty five cent

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 4: I've in my lifetime, I've never seen one where you

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Speaker 4: can just tap to pay on them. And I was

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Speaker 4: thinking about that the other day. Oh dispenser, thank you.

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Speaker 4: But in my mind, I'm like, well, if I'm somebody

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Speaker 2: Some like fancy places. Well them shits is like candy.

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Speaker 4: They everywhere you could just go, you know, and that

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Speaker 4: they're not locked up or or anything like that. Do

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Speaker 4: you go to other places and it's just like you're

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Speaker 3: Uh, let's see what was I gonna say. I don't

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Speaker 1: Anecdotally, Diddies influence in hip hop media scenes very apparently

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Speaker 1: apparent from just my limited Like I said, anecdotally, I

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Speaker 1: haven't done a study on this, but just for my

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Speaker 1: limited search of article and stuff for the show I'm

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Speaker 1: subscribed to, you know, a few hip hop blogs just

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Speaker 1: to get like the email that's like, here's the news

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Speaker 1: of the day. And because he owned so much media

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Speaker 1: like Revolt, and so many people were so friendly with

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Speaker 1: him and had some ties in the industry, it is

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Speaker 1: honestly a little bit disheartening and maybe even embarrassing to

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Speaker 1: see the way a lot of black publications are covering

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Speaker 1: the Diddy trial. Like I said this on my Facebook

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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, it's kind of sad

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Speaker 1: to see how they're like in the bag, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I know that a lot of these blogs, no

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Speaker 1: matter how much affection people have for the mess and

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Speaker 1: the shit on them, I really soured on them in

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Speaker 1: the last few years, mostly because I saw the disinformation

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Speaker 1: they pedaled for Trump and during the conspiracies they promoted

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Speaker 1: and stuff, because ultimately they don't give a fuck about

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Speaker 1: us as people, and they are there for what gets clicks.

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Speaker 3: They're not there for what hells the community, and.

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Speaker 1: So spreading transphobia by showing like Dwayne Wade's child and

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Speaker 1: being like and knowing that people are going to be

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Speaker 1: transphobic into comments and just kind of allowing it because hey,

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Speaker 1: people are clicking and they're arguing in the comments. But

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Speaker 1: every time they argue, that's more views for me. The

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Speaker 1: vaccine information, giving Trump credit for stimulus checks, like I've

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Speaker 1: seen it all. So it's not that I hold these

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Speaker 1: places in high esteem, but you know that this is

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Speaker 1: the news for black people in many cases, or for

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Speaker 1: hip hop culture in many cases, and a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're a reflection of the culture. Many of

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Speaker 1: So it's not like I expect the blogs to be

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Speaker 1: better than academics Joe Butten and Charlemagne, the people that

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Speaker 1: see like how obvious the spin is. Like they'll cover

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Speaker 1: something from the Ditty trial as if it favors Diddy

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Speaker 1: and then skip other stuff. So like today I think

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Speaker 1: it was like Ditty's assistant was testifying in the courtroom,

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Speaker 1: and it was she talked about you know, abuse and

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Speaker 1: being kidnapped and watching him abuse Cassie and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: And then when you go look at like the headline

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Speaker 1: problem with fifty cent according to ex assistant. Now, that

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Speaker 1: may be a thing she talked about, but in this

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Speaker 1: how his assistant says she was kidnapped, how she said

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Speaker 1: kid Cuddy, How he didn't pay her, how he abused her,

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Speaker 1: it take a lot of detective tests to see if

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Speaker 1: kill her and throw her into East River, stuff like that. Right,

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Speaker 1: you would think this would be the headline, and instead

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Speaker 1: it's some like bullshit, And.

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Speaker 3: I know people go, well, this is just one article, guys.

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Speaker 1: I've been looking at these articles for like weeks now

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Speaker 1: to cover the cover on the show, and it's like

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Speaker 1: I go to the AP to get my news about

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Speaker 1: Diddy and shit, because so much of the salacious details

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Speaker 1: are the ones that they're deciding to cover are just

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Speaker 1: crafted in a way that's like to it almost lightens

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Speaker 1: the case. Like oh, Diddy's assistant says he had bottles

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Speaker 1: of baby oil and cameras in a bag, and I'm like, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: but that's not what the like. I think if you

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Speaker 1: were covering something he kicked Cassie while she was in

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Speaker 1: the fetal position several times in front of me, would

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Speaker 1: be a bigger headline than Ooh, he's a.

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Speaker 3: Freak, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I just it's just, you know, it's not funny,

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Speaker 1: but it's just one of those like, man, it's really sad.

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Speaker 1: And I've seen you know, other blog spaces and stuff

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Speaker 3: And I mean, he's in jail, you know.

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Speaker 1: Now maybe they think he's gonna get out and there

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Speaker 1: like when he gets back, he's gonna certain control of

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Speaker 1: the media or the iron Fist, and we don't want

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Speaker 1: to be the blog that you know, said anything bad

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Speaker 1: about him. It could be that simple, but man, it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see that, and also this, in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: I'll will continue to say this. This is what happens

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Speaker 4: when the media is it's not for education, the media

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Speaker 4: it becomes entertainment. This is what happens when people don't

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Speaker 4: pay and they expect everything to be free. Well, these

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Speaker 2: They was like, hey, we are here in the wild

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Speaker 4: Which is the Internet, and everybody's trying to learn, and

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Speaker 4: everybody wants everything for free, and nobody wants to pay

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's not just paying, right, because like

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Speaker 1: the AP is covering it differently, the uh the thing,

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Speaker 1: and I think this trial is so salacious they can

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Speaker 1: get clicks by saying what happened, Like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they were making the decision. It said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: the biggest most interesting detail is he had a gun

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Speaker 1: in case fifty cent ran up on them. I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure if you ran a headline he kicked Cassie in

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Speaker 1: front of us here at a birthday party, it's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna get some clicks.

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Speaker 3: Like It's like, I don't think people are like I

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Speaker 3: ain't clicking on that.

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Speaker 1: I think they are one hundred percent making an editorial

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Speaker 1: decision to not put be to.

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Speaker 3: Damning to him.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, there are places that I do know do shit

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Speaker 1: just for the clicks, right, like the New York Post,

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Speaker 1: which I'm also subscribed to them, and they'll send out

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Speaker 1: an email Diddy's Exorcist. I was just looking at one.

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Speaker 1: Diddy's uh Sean Diddy comes exorcist. He tells Jerry Mogo

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Speaker 1: kidnapped her to help kill Cuddy. They're not this is

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Speaker 1: the New York Daily News is not some like man

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Speaker 1: with just a bashing of journalism.

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Speaker 3: They won't clicks. They know that that will get clicks.

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Speaker 1: So I think these blogs actually for going clicks to

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's supposed to be like some

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Speaker 1: you know, another thing they'll published. I saw a lot

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just something I've been noticing. Some other

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Speaker 1: I just want to go to like the AP or

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Speaker 3: I'd rather I really would.

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Speaker 1: Like journalists who have sources, who talk to people who

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Speaker 3: And the trial is over to the public.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to wait in line long enough,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and in my opinion, and maybe this is the

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Speaker 4: like it would be outraged, be.

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Speaker 2: Going, why ain't y'all telling the truth? Why an't y'all coming.

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Speaker 4: Out with all the details, like like like would he

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Speaker 4: it's still wrong. My thing is, I'm gonna type.

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Speaker 2: I want facts.

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Speaker 4: I don't want shit filtered. I don't want shit slanted. Who, what, when, where,

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Speaker 4: and why and how reports And so I'm like you

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Speaker 2: I don't mean no harm like the TikToker child. No

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Speaker 2: people ain't no experts.

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Speaker 4: Most of them don't have degrees and they're not experts

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Speaker 2: And so my thing is I want.

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Speaker 4: Facts so that so that when these things come out,

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Speaker 2: Shit, damn. My next one is me and Rondick went

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Speaker 4: And child, I don't like a ghetto ass AMC mm hmmmmm.

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Speaker 4: Ass AMC movie theater, the AMC movie theaters, I don't

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Speaker 2: What is this? I couldn't move, I couldn't recline.

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Speaker 4: looking at them like, ooh, child, the Ghetto, the Ghetto,

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Speaker 2: Was like a three hour movie. I was like, what the.

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Speaker 3: Hell is this?

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Speaker 2: It bothered me, the fun bombing me.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, it was not. It didn't even

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Speaker 2: And I was like, damn, there's a lot.

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Speaker 2: That was scanning in your tickets. I was like, oh, okay, guess.

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Speaker 3: Well that was that was different.

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Speaker 1: I definitely feel I did that was not an enjoyable experience.

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Speaker 3: I saw a trailer for a movie.

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Speaker 1: I think it was like Freaky Friday or Freakier Freakier Friday,

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Speaker 3: She did through two movies.

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Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen, she did two movies, and in twenty eighteen

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Speaker 3: Like seven or eight projects.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to know, are we calling it

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Speaker 1: here for it. I feel like it has begun, and

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Speaker 1: So I'm here for the Lindsay Locana lehonnaissance. And now

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: get in between my teeth, and I actually get a

438
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 4: lot of the crap out in between my teeth, and

439
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 4: like one or two spikee versus me like digging to

440
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 4: the left, digging to the right, Like all that fucking

441
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 4: digging to me.

442
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 2: This two time consuming.

443
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: And so I don't know how I did this, but

444
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 4: I bought some flaws, some thick flaws, and baby, I've

445
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 4: never had flaws that felt like plastic. I like was

446
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 4: like okay, and I put it in my teeth, baby,

447
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 4: and it was just like.

448
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 2: Rubber like plastic in my teeth. It was the worst

449
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: floss my life. It wasn't comfortable. And I threw that

450
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 2: bitch in the trash.

451
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 4: I was like, who's the flows They teeth with plastic?

452
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 2: This is terrible. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Flows.

453
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 4: People don't want to floss with plastic, like it was

454
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: a plastic bag.

455
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: Get out of here.

456
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 3: I haven't had that issue is it cheap flass or something?

457
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: Where'd you get it from?

458
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 4: I ordered it online because I like the I like

459
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 4: the glide as it glide of glade glide glide flows

460
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 4: because it's thicker, and then it is you don't have

461
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 4: to it gloss between your teeth easier, so you're not,

462
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 4: you know, fighting on hard.

463
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 3: And so I'm like, was it glad or is something different? Why?

464
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 3: Why is it different than the flash you had before?

465
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: It is my question?

466
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: Oh and uh? And when was called?

467
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 4: Like I think that one was called like the regular

468
00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 4: one and then almost like some kind of deep uh

469
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 4: like deep thing whatever, like like deep flows, and so

470
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 4: the regular one it just felt like I took a

471
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: plastic bag and was trying to floss with it.

472
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: It was terrible. And I don't know why.

473
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what is being lost

474
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: in the question I'm asking.

475
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry, but what what?

476
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 3: Why? Like was it a reason you bought a different

477
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: one if you already.

478
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: Liked I thought it by mistake.

479
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 4: I thought I was because because they both was like

480
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: we we thick flows. So I just bought it thinking

481
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 4: it was like regula ass thick floss, like the number

482
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 4: one I normally find, and I.

483
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: Guess I think it was the same brand or it

484
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 1: is a different brand, that's my question. It was the

485
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: same brand, just a different type of thick.

486
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

487
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 4: And I did not realize that people like to floss

488
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 4: their teeth with flastic bag.

489
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: Shame on you. That's a terrible idea.

490
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 4: It was nasty tasting, and nobody wants to floss with

491
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 4: a plastic.

492
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: Bag, Okay, understood.

493
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: Uh, now that I think about it, I'm not sure

494
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: what BlackBerry molasses had to do with anything that them

495
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: kids was singing about.

496
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: And that's so.

497
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 4: I was an adult when I found out what my

498
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 4: lasses was, because my mamma, I know.

499
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 3: What BlackBerry my lasses is. Is that what the song's about?

500
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: No, it's not.

501
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: It's not like ingredients or how to cook it or

502
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: how to make it now? And I don't know when

503
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: the last time you heard that song, but that song

504
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: is fucking depressing. And I don't mean because it sounds sad,

505
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: like everybody knows it sounds sad.

506
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: That don't mean shit.

507
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about this ten year old in nineteen ninety

508
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: six in this group. Mister, there's no way he wrote

509
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: this song. Ten year olds don't think like that.

510
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 4: If a ten year old thinking like that, God damn baby,

511
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: what you've been through?

512
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: Like this song sounds like it's about suicide. It's an

513
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 1: old Negro spiritual type song. It's it's very like, what

514
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: was going on in this little boy's life and why

515
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: didn't we put him in some sort of like oversight

516
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: from like a foster care person, send social service, house,

517
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: welfare check, something.

518
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: That maybe got adult problems at ten.

519
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: Woke up Sunday morning. Got a little bad news today.

520
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: They say my life ain't worth living and time is

521
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: slowly taking away.

522
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: Nigga, you are twelve? What and who is giving you

523
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: that bad nigga?

524
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: What kind of bad news you got? I gotta see today?

525
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: The fuck is dance?

526
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: Hey, your life ain't worth living? News alert, breaking news.

527
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: Don't think I'm going crazy because starts keep running through

528
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: my head. I know I gotta be strong, gotta hold on.

529
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'd rather give up instead sometimes like seems like

530
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm better off dead.

531
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: That is suicidal ideation.

532
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, something they had this little kid singing and shit,

533
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: some adult was going through something.

534
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: It was like baby singing this song.

535
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: And the choruses BlackBerry molast is one of the things

536
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: that never changed. What do you mean, never change? It's

537
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,239
Speaker 3: gotta get better than this.

538
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: I hope so, baby, I hope you found peace when

539
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 4: you got older.

540
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 3: Thet them little boys was not living this kind of lane.

541
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 4: Right That baby sounded like he had working bills, had

542
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 4: a fall one k and work for the union.

543
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 2: Now is this?

544
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: Don't tell me how to live my life after all

545
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: that we've been through. Don't want to live out your

546
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: hardships because I've been there myself a time or two.

547
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: You are a time or two already.

548
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: WHOA? What kind of life of it? What kind of

549
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: life of you live? Baby?

550
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: So many things you'll survive once you realize there's no

551
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: such place as.

552
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: Paradise, at least in my eyes. And then the rest

553
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: of the chords is just singing BlackBerry molasses. That the

554
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 3: rest of the fucking song.

555
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: It's just black beerry molasses, rest of the song?

556
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 3: Why did they lie let this happen?

557
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: Wow?

558
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: This is not okay.

559
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: It is not okay for kids to be singing this song.

560
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: Is mister Steel with us?

561
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: The group that's I doubt it like that was part

562
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: of their only hit.

563
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm worried these kids did they just drive

564
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: the tour bus off the side of a fucking clip

565
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: a bridge And like y'all, we was crying out for

566
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: help the whole time.

567
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: Y'all didn't know nobody paid us any attention.

568
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: Listen to the words we're telling you we need help.

569
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: We was up there with City High as far as

570
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: depressing songs go.

571
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 3: When y'all just laughed, y'all.

572
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 1: Just thought it was so funny. Yeah, they gotta They

573
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: got a picture on Facebook. Uh, let me see if

574
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: I can share it with y'all. Mister was an American

575
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: R and B group blah blah blah. And then look

576
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: at these kids.

577
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: These are baby they was children.

578
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: Ironically, when they grew up, they like i'd say, a

579
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: good two or three out of the four looked like

580
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: they the song applies.

581
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: They them been through some shit.

582
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: That that is I was. I don't even remember.

583
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: What made me listen to so I think I just

584
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: couldn't get out of my head one day and then

585
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: I was just like, wait a minute, did.

586
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: What those children singing?

587
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: And ship?

588
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: What is happening with people? But yeah, so that was

589
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: that was my last.

590
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: Thing, no problem, my last thing. Uh, it's kind of

591
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: it's kind of bittersweet. And one of my family members

592
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: had called me, uh the other day, and they thought

593
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: they and they have a slight from a dementia, and

594
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 4: they thought they was talking to my mom and my

595
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 4: aunt de raised me and Uh. I just talked to

596
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: them like normal and had a great time with them,

597
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 4: and and and and was glad to hear their voice.

598
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 4: But I just let them talk. I didn't stress them out.

599
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: I just went with the flow. Wherever they took the

600
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: conversation as well. I took the conversation.

601
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: And it was just.

602
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: Wonderful just to sit in and talk with them. And

603
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: I put it online. I was like, I didn't want

604
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: to stress them out or be like, no, you got

605
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: the wrong person and it's not me and stuff like that.

606
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is I they don't I've heard

607
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do that. So I don't even

608
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: know what the rules are for that, but I've seen

609
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: people say like, no, you are supposed to correct them,

610
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: and it's you're not supposed to just go along because

611
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: it adds to the confusion and all this stuff. I

612
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: really don't know what the answer is on that, but

613
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: it's just you know, to me, It's just one of

614
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 1: those unfortunate things. And I don't know how you handle it.

615
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: And obviously you're on the phone, you're far away, right,

616
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know what, like why you

617
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: are supposed to you know, I don't know.

618
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: I don't know no, And it varies per person, but

619
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: I know I'm not doing that. It's to me, it's

620
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: not worth everybody getting frustrated, them getting frustrated, me getting

621
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: like to me, it's my personal opinion, it's not worth

622
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: the correction, particularly dealing with people like that because a

623
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 4: lot of times it's a reset, because my mama had dimension,

624
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 4: it's reset. They remember things sometimes sometimes they don't.

625
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: You never know where they're gonna be.

626
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: And my thing is, I want to enjoy the moment

627
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 4: with my family member who want to be fun with somebody,

628
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 4: even if they made an error, they make mistakes. It's like,

629
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: don't about want me fussing and holling and yelling at you,

630
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 4: and you don't want it either, And so in my opinion,

631
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 4: and so for me, it was just really really good

632
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: just to hear their voice.

633
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: And just to talk to them.

634
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 4: And so I had called my mama and I would say, Mama,

635
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: just want you to know your brother called me by

636
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 4: any error, just in case, you know, somebody says something

637
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: about you know, him calling me.

638
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: I just want her to be informed.

639
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: But it was, like I said, it was a very

640
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: happy time because you know this particular femindment. They don't

641
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: really call me that office. So that's why I say, oh,

642
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: you calling for my mama, and we was talking. They

643
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: never used my name, so.

644
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: You don't know that they didn't know it was you

645
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: or you just suspect they didn't.

646
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: I'm suspecting they didn't know that.

647
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: They assumed that the person that picked up what was

648
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 4: my mama, just because of the way they was talking

649
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 4: and all that stuff.

650
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: Well it's I did look it up while we were talking.

651
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: Alzheimer's dot org dot dot UK does say not to

652
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: correct them, so it says you don't have to correct

653
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: every mistaken but leaf it also said you don't need

654
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: to remind him like your brother died ten years ago,

655
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, uh, try not to get frustrated and say

656
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: stuff like I just told you that.

657
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: So there you go. It's so, yeah, you did that,

658
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: you did good.

659
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so and and I think I did too.

660
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just didn't know the rules, and I was

661
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: like hoping, honestly, when you start talking and bringing this

662
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: up on the show, I'm like, please, God, don't let

663
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: some motherfucker write in and then be like, I don't

664
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: know what Karen was doing because then I'm you know,

665
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be ugly, but but you know it sounds

666
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: like this, Uh, this is the advice that people are

667
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: giving that are professionals.

668
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: Right, and particularly with my biological mama before she passed,

669
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: my mama's sister before, yeah, my mama's sister before she passed,

670
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: she went through these facees and so that's kind of

671
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: how I got adjusted to it, because she would call

672
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 4: on and sometimes she wouldn't know exactly who I am,

673
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: and then sometimes she would think I was her sister

674
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 4: and things like that. And so for me, I've just

675
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: realized life is too short, and so why am I

676
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: fussing at you?

677
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: Why am I raising my blip for what? For who?

678
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 4: For Why you're you're talking somebody. You're talking to somebody

679
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 4: who isn't like a their brain isn't normally functioning. And

680
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 4: so for me, you just adapting to just and like

681
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: I said, and enjoy the moment. You do not know,

682
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 4: if it's going to be your last and last thing

683
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 4: you want to remember, it's fussing with this person, particularly

684
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: if they're a family member or a loved one. So

685
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: I just I just, you know, I thought about that one.

686
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that makes sense, and uh, you know that's

687
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: I think, like I said, that seems like the way

688
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: that they want people to handle it. All right, So

689
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: this is not really a random, a banter thing, but

690
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: it's been well, I guess kind of is banter. But

691
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: there's this dude that's been going viral on social media

692
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: lately with his podcast Grits and Eggs.

693
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Speaker 3: I was to a couple of episodes. I think it's

694
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: pretty cool.

695
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: Whenever I see clips, I always think he's spitting good ship,

696
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: and but when I listen to him, I also am like,

697
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: it reminds me a lot of just things we've talked

698
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: about in this show, reminds me a lot of things

699
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: I've talked about that we've read.

700
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: Not that I agree with every single thing.

701
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: No one can agree with everybody's whatever if you have

702
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: a podcast, right.

703
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 3: So it's not that.

704
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: But his name is Deontae Kyle, and I mean his

705
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: show is blowing up like he's really good at these

706
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: clips they sharing on social media, like like this is

707
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: going viral all the time. It's him and a couple

708
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: other people that I see kind of like blowing up

709
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: in that lane, which I'm very happy for them, and uh,

710
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, rooting for those dudes because I feel like

711
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: we do need people like this, and I feel like

712
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: not enough people are like this, and there's a social

713
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: pressure as a black man to you need to conform,

714
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: you need to be quiet, don't say it that way,

715
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: you hurt my feelings, right, Sometimes sometimes black men themselves

716
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: will and I'm not saying fuck your feelings, I just

717
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: want to be clear, but sometimes black men themselves will

718
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: weaponize hurt feelings in the way that you know, like

719
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: a white woman will do sometimes where it's like, well,

720
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: you didn't say it right, like RG three just did.

721
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: RG three is like, you didn't say it right, so

722
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: you need to apologize, and was.

723
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 3: Considered right, Yeah, Ryan Clark did apologize, right.

724
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: So he had this clip that went viral, and it

725
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: was one of those things where like I felt this

726
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: coming this moment because I remember when I tweeted black

727
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: men are the white people black people and the reaction

728
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: to that and just you know, I remember arguing with

729
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: niggas and shit, which is you know, in hindsight, it's

730
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: mostly embarrassing of just how much I let it get

731
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: to me, to amount of push back and try and

732
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: explain it to people and convinced them like I'm not

733
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: a bad person. I just think of this and not

734
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: what I'm really talking about is male privilege even within

735
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: a group that is oppressed and blah blah blah, And

736
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: it just wasn't worth it, mostly because it wasn't worth

737
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: the mental headache for me. Now, not that I disagree

738
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: with the sentiment. I might phrase it differently, but I

739
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: but privilege, of patriarchal privilege is a real thing, even

740
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: if it is not a one to one like I'm

741
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: not calling you white. I'm saying you're a white person.

742
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: But but you know, motherfuckers, when they can weaponize, they

743
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: hurt feelings.

744
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: You know, there was people making blogs about me.

745
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: Somebody left a I'm in this comment on a picture

746
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: with me and my knees, right, you know. So it

747
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: was like, so basically I've been on the side of

748
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: the object to these people, like the person they're deciding

749
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: to target. Oh, I just realized it might not let

750
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: me know if this plays the audio.

751
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 5: Guys, the final frontier for us in this community, we

752
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: have a host of issues.

753
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna stop it right there. Did it play

754
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: the audio this time? If not, I'll switch it to

755
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: a different app, a different different browser, because okay, yeah,

756
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: it's been doing that late.

757
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: And and like you say, iron put like this.

758
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 4: When it comes to things like this, I guess my

759
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: thing is, if people are determined to be offended, there's

760
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 4: nothing you can do, nothing you can say, there's no

761
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 4: way you can phrase it to make them change their minds.

762
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: And so that's why I say, for some of them,

763
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: people fuck your feelings, because it does, it does, It

764
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 4: does not matter.

765
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: I was not saying you can't say that. I was

766
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: clarifying that that's not my stance. I'm not a fuck

767
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: the feelings of black men person like I think. Uh,

768
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: the part of the gender war thing is to make

769
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: us I feel like the paint with broad swath swaths,

770
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: forget our real lived experiences, forget the outliers.

771
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: The outliers become the norm, the and and then.

772
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: The hyperbole becomes what gets the most like response.

773
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: So you're saying things in a way. That's hyperbolic, you know.

774
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: And I and my goal is always to communicate clearly

775
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: and authentically, And so that's why I wouldn't like, there's

776
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: there are niggas that I feel like, fuck their feelings,

777
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: for sure, but at this point I would when we

778
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: were just talking, we weren't just talking only about them,

779
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: but just in general. Yes, like, no, I do understand

780
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: your feelings are valid, they matter. It does matter how

781
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: people talk to you. It does matter is you're not

782
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: no one's no one period likes to be talked down

783
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: to as a group.

784
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: How people are expecting something front.

785
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: I agree, agreed.

786
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: So that's the only reason I wasn't correcting you or whatever,

787
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: just saying, Okay, you can feel that way.

788
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: Other people can feel that way.

789
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: When I said that, I wasn't thinking fuck y'all feelings.

790
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, like, no, y'all understand what

791
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying right Like, like we all have been We've

792
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: all experienced this as men. There's certain things in our

793
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: community that aren't okay. And if we're gonna have this

794
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: patriarchal privilege, we should also be using it to protect

795
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: each other, to look out not just for not just

796
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: for women, not just for children, not just for LGBTQ

797
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: people in the community, but also your your fellow straight

798
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: black man, because he's a little love and and and

799
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: kindness too. It's not just a I'm shitting on us

800
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: type of thing. But anyway, so he put this out.

801
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: It's three minutes. I don't know if I played all thing,

802
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: but obviously you can guess the response after hear this.

803
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: The final frontier for us in this community. We have

804
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 5: a host of issues. We have a host of issues,

805
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 5: but our biggest issue is this perceived gender war because

806
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 5: it divides us in half. It literally splits us right

807
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 5: down the middle. Black men, the qualities that you have

808
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 5: that will make you a success in the street, a

809
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 5: success in athletics will also make you a success in education.

810
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 5: But we're putting all we have to get it quick,

811
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 5: and I get it. I get it. Women ain't gonna

812
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 5: fuck with us if we don't got the money. If

813
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 5: you put the phone down all your information. First of all,

814
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 5: be honest about this. All of the information you're receiving

815
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 5: from the world via the Internet, it's being pushed to

816
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 5: you through an algorithm, not the natural path of things.

817
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 5: Your mentality is not the same mentality as mine, because

818
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 5: I got my experience in the world with actual people,

819
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 5: so I know the shit that you're saying just isn't true.

820
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 5: And if a girl your age is trying to tell

821
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 5: you to get money and do all these things, she's

822
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 5: receiving the same information as you. You're both being lied to,

823
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 5: and you're both believing in the lie, and the lie

824
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 5: is being reinforced by the music, and the line's being

825
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 5: reinforced by the algorithm.

826
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: Now, one thing I'll say too, it actually sounds like

827
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: he's talking to younger people, not necessarily even his peer group,

828
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: even though a lot of the people I saw it

829
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: took offense with people in the peer group.

830
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 3: Also, because it is.

831
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: The Internet, when you say stuff like this, those people

832
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: you're talking about will get it'll get back to on them.

833
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: Oh and those people aren't gonna be reasonable. If you've

834
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: been red pilled, if you've been if you're one of

835
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: these people with the free Tory lanes ask people and

836
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: shit like that, you're you're not gonna receive this in

837
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: a genuine way. You're like, Oh, here this panderin ass

838
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: lame blah blah.

839
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 4: Blah, no matter how soft, no matter how gentle, and

840
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 4: so that's it's a small percentage of people.

841
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: You go, Okay, I can't be worried about you.

842
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

843
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: You should never let them dictate how you communicate. Like

844
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: I said, I communicate. I try to communicate honestly, authentically

845
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: and to be understood. I don't try to communicate with

846
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: just like trying to be like angry and ra rah

847
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: and get the most likes and retweets, because I realized

848
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: that's not who I am, right, and I always try.

849
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: To be me.

850
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: So I need to be comfortable with everything I said

851
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: in hindsight to be like that was exactly what I meant, right,

852
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: And that's a lesson I had to learn because I

853
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: felt like the algorithm and the internet and social media

854
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: was definitely fixating my language, was warping it towards a

855
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: certain way because that's what I was seeing around me.

856
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that's how you have to talk.

857
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: But I don't believe in that thing. You know, It's

858
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: like when people do the blank our trash. You know,

859
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: white people are tryingsh men are trash, such and such

860
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: as trash. And I remember thinking one day like because

861
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: I was it was just I was forget who I

862
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: was talking to with de was like, because you know,

863
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: we all know, you know, white people trash or whatever

864
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: or such and such as trash. And I was thinking like, actually, man,

865
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't really believe people are trash. Like I don't

866
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: believe they have to be like trash, irredeemable, whether you

867
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: call them recyclables or whatever. I actually don't need a

868
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: brad sweeping termed for humans. I hear what you're saying,

869
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: and I'm not telling you you can't talk like that,

870
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 1: but I'm good.

871
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: I don't need to communicate it in that way.

872
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 2: Agreed.

873
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 5: This phenomenon of men of women only seeking men for

874
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 5: money is a very new concept. My parents was married,

875
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 5: my dad was broke. How many First of all, what's

876
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 5: up with this black community that we've had to overcome

877
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 5: all this financial poverty but we only will get with

878
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 5: men that they got money. That doesn't make sense. Nigga,

879
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 5: how were you born? If we've always been financially in

880
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 5: this country in last place, but our women will only

881
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 5: fuck with niggas who got money? How are any of

882
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 5: us here? How does that make sense? It just doesn't

883
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 5: make sense. Because they want you to aspire to degeneracy,

884
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 5: and now you're seeking equity and degeneracy. Gotta get your

885
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 5: mind right, man. All this shit is systemic. The algorithm

886
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 5: is being pushed to you to push an agenda because

887
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 5: the second that you start hating women and you start

888
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 5: getting into that red pill content, all the white red

889
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 5: pill niggas are also racist. You think that's you think

890
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 5: that's a mistake. They're trying to push you into conservatism

891
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 5: because the more conservative you are, the more you more

892
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 5: likely you are to fall for religious dogma and to

893
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 5: follow orders blindly. And then you might as well just

894
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 5: go ahead and call yourself mega. You don't question authority.

895
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 5: You exalt people just because they have money. You think

896
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 5: because they have money that they're more intelligent than you.

897
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: It's and so it's very funny because this is low key.

898
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: I guess Hockey what I was talking about when I

899
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: was talking about food minding, Like he's just saying it

900
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: in a different.

901
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: Way, but it's the same concept.

902
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: Like it's it's the slippery slope of like, yes, we

903
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: got you on the fact that we can get you

904
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: because you hate women, so we can get you to

905
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: start saying certain things that just lead you down that

906
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: pathway And the next thing, you know, you're over here

907
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: telling me, you know, Andrew Schoss ain't that bad, or

908
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, like whatever, maybe comedy is your way in.

909
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: And now some of these conservative ideas that people are pitching,

910
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: they're not that bad or the real problem is the Democrats.

911
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: So the real problem is the social media, the people saying,

912
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: don't call people the R word or what it's something other.

913
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 3: That's the kind of shit they say over there.

914
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: But it's something other than these people that are causing

915
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: the issues. I've seen it, ironically, us talking about this,

916
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: thinking about the shave room in some of these blogs

917
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: where they're hip hop blogs, but you look up and

918
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: they're covering things with a right wing slant, and it's like,

919
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: because you're so addicted to calling Zarrow Wade misgendering her,

920
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: because you're addicted to that, it's one The next article

921
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: is Donald Trump gave us stimulus checks, Joe Biden didn't

922
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: do anything.

923
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 3: That's the next article on that page.

924
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: You know, the article after that is gonna be some

925
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, they trying to cancel such and such, and

926
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: you know, like it just don't take much before you're

927
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: like you're over there and That's all they care about

928
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: is getting you over there and you'll do the rest.

929
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all they care about.

930
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: And also that the thing is a full and maybe

931
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: and this is me on the outside looking in for

932
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 4: and anybody that actually stands for anything and like, actually, hey,

933
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: y'all know what's going on here, Like they're looking around

934
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 4: and they're realizing that there's something wrong with the system

935
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: and things like that. That is a very lonely road,

936
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 4: and people don't want to admit. Most people don't go

937
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 4: that route because they like the peer being accepted by peers.

938
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 4: They don't like being called down. They don't like their

939
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 4: manhood being questioned, you know. And a lot of men

940
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 4: going to homosexuality and all this stuff the second you

941
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: got feelings all of a sudden, you know, you acting

942
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: like a bitch, you know, and like that versus the

943
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 4: reality is that might not be you. And so a

944
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 4: lot of people will actually a lot of men will

945
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: actually and what's so sad It takes men from my perspective,

946
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 4: it takes men getting older, like much much older, before

947
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: they start speaking out and before they start actually bro

948
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: I love you and hugging their friend like like like

949
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: it takes years of fucking deprogramming for you realists, I'm

950
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: a fault as fucking human being. I can actually cry,

951
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 4: I can love my wife, I can love my kids.

952
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 4: It don't make me a bitch, you know what I'm saying.

953
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: To actually beat this thing. But some people, some people

954
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: just have that peer pressure. Everybody has it. But if

955
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 4: you learn I don't want to do that, this is wrong, y'all.

956
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 4: I'm not following the group. You are ostracized, and nobody

957
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: wants to be ostracized. So this is the biggest reason

958
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 4: why most people don't do that bullshit.

959
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

960
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: Also he put out another one that this is the

961
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: one I saw that made people pissed, But that was

962
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: like the general tenor of his podcast or something like that.

963
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a it's anecdotal, it's you know,

964
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: it's his life, it's his opinion. It's not necessarily scientific.

965
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: He didn't go out and do a pole or whatever.

966
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like if you can relate to

967
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: you can relate to it. You know, when these other

968
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: dudes are doing shows and they're you know, coming down

969
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: hard on women and shit like that, there's the level

970
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: of outrage from the same group of dudes is not

971
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna be there.

972
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 3: But here's here's what he talked about. He talked about

973
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 3: intersectionality and accountability.

974
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 5: Harass women. You may know how to take rejection, the

975
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 5: majority of men that most women deal with do not,

976
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 5: and you are accountable for that as well. Because I

977
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 5: don't got time to figure out which white people are nice,

978
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 5: which white people aren't racist, or da da da da dah.

979
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 5: I have to go on the actions of the group.

980
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 5: The group as a whole, and the history of that

981
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 5: group as a whole tells me that they are a

982
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 5: danger to me and they are not to be trusted.

983
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 5: And if you can understand that as a black man

984
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 5: and your stands towards white people, then you should absolutely

985
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 5: be able to understand women's stands towards you. It's not

986
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 5: a war on you waged by women. Actually, the war

987
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 5: get a little thicker when we start talking about it

988
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 5: from the perspective of women and the greater society of

989
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 5: racism and white supremacy being waised against black people and

990
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 5: then the patriarchal society being waised against women. So they

991
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 5: have to deal with two elements. One of those elements

992
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 5: we don't have to think about and honestly, we're perpetuated

993
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 5: and it's perpetuated against us young to look at women

994
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 5: as objects, you know, to look at women only through

995
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 5: the lens of a sexual desire and not as the

996
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 5: human being that they are. And when you understand how

997
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 5: to deal with women on a human level, you understand

998
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 5: how much women will enrich your life.

999
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: Amen, And I just want you to know, this got

1000
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: four point eight men views, But there's like a lot

1001
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: of people are acting like what he's saying is crazy.

1002
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: There are people, of course who shared it that agreed,

1003
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: a lot of people will you know. And honestly, it

1004
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: was kind of that was kind of cool to see

1005
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: people finally share somebody that was talking sense the way

1006
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: they would share somebody that was saying something fucking insane,

1007
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: Like if Joe Budden was yelling at Melissa Ford on

1008
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: his podcast like that shit gets five men views and

1009
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: it's like he's wrong for that or whatever. But to

1010
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: see somebody be like, you know, because they're always like

1011
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: where are the men that are talking like this, but

1012
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: that they're not going viral, they're not sharing their podcast,

1013
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: they're not giving showing their clips and stuff like that.

1014
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: So it was it was like that, that's what's been refreshing.

1015
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: There's some level of balance, But unfortunately with that balance

1016
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: comes people pushing back, right, because they're so used to

1017
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: being served it one way. Yes, you know, I've talked

1018
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: about these things in depth on our show before with

1019
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: the like my he said, white people. But my comparison

1020
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: was the police, because the police have a certain level

1021
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: of authority. Now, police are supposed to help you, right,

1022
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm in your community. If you I'm

1023
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: part of your community. If you need something that you

1024
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: should be able to go to me. But the fact

1025
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 1: that every once in a while one of these cops

1026
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: is hitting you upside the head, or one of these

1027
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: cops is doing and I just tell you, like, well

1028
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: he's not a real cop. Oh no, no, no, that's

1029
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: he's a bad app or whatever. Okay, Well another cop

1030
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: is are rapists, and another cop is stealing money, and

1031
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: another cop is Eventually it's like the cops are not

1032
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: to be trusted, and what do we do.

1033
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 3: We don't go I need help, officer.

1034
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: We started thinking like maybe I just try to solve

1035
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: this without the cops, right, right, And I feel like

1036
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: that's the same sort of analogia like I don't have time.

1037
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: A woman's not gonna have time for all that.

1038
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: Well, you supposed to be a good dude, but damn,

1039
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 1: I guess not. Like if they can do it, you see,

1040
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: many women say if I can just do it by myself,

1041
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: I just do it by myself. I don't need no man.

1042
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: They didn't wake up and say I hate men. Like

1043
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 1: things happen to make people get to that point. Yes,

1044
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: it may be exaggerated on the internet, it may be

1045
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: exacerbated by social media. I definitely understand that people's real

1046
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: lives don't always align with what's happening online, but also

1047
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: we respond to the most extremes of these things. So

1048
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: like like people, it's not necessarily a conversation that is

1049
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: being had about like the general middle of the road experience,

1050
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: because if you anecdotally sit down and talk to like

1051
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: most women, they're gonna tell you like, no, I have

1052
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: men in my life that have helped me and been

1053
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: nothing but kind of me. But I've also had some

1054
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: shit men in my life that have fucked me over

1055
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: and done.

1056
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: All kinds of shit.

1057
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: So like both things have existed. I know that when

1058
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: I walk out the house, I know that it's not

1059
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: just all one way, but I'm also just not taking

1060
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: a lot of chances, you know, right.

1061
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 4: And also a lot of men think that women are

1062
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 4: not complex creatures, and we're very complex, probably in some situations,

1063
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 4: more complex than the men are when it comes to

1064
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 4: like situations and navigating things. And so a lot of times,

1065
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 4: like you say, when people come up with these strategies

1066
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 4: and these ways that they, particularly women, the ways they

1067
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 4: navigate life, like you say, it didn't happen out nowhere,

1068
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 4: and it happened from personal experience, and a lot of times,

1069
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 4: because a lot of men don't look at women like

1070
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 4: you said, I got full fledged human being. It's like, well,

1071
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: she's streaming like this and she's doing this instead of

1072
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 4: asking why or instead of saying, I might not be

1073
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 4: meeting whatever her standards are, and things like that, and

1074
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 4: a lot of times a lot of stuff reflection and

1075
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 4: shit like that. And people in general don't like to

1076
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 4: self reflect, but a lot of men, particularly egos, everybody

1077
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: has them, but particularly men egos, they don't like to

1078
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 4: self reflect and be like, hey, I might need to

1079
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: change things, so I might not be I might be

1080
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 4: looking at this differently. I may be wrong or whatever

1081
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 4: the case.

1082
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is just the conversation

1083
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: is happening in a place where people are very defensive,

1084
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: like there's not trust in the community, and there's definitely

1085
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: not trust online on social media. So like when people

1086
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: see this clip, they're gonna take it as an attack

1087
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: on black men. They're not gonna take it as this

1088
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: is a brother who cares about us as a total

1089
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: sum of all our people, and he is just encouraging us.

1090
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm saying is because I've been here,

1091
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: I've said this and then dealt with the backlash and

1092
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: the nigga shitting on me and some nigga name like

1093
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: mister Doctor Hotel or some shit doing a video and

1094
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: my picture in front of the house he probably lives

1095
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: in with his white wife, Like I remember that kind

1096
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 1: of shit, and like it's that was years ago and

1097
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: it's sad, but how we haven't come much further because this,

1098
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: to me, this guy is not doing an attack. I

1099
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: understand people who are like, so y'all telling me as

1100
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: a black man when people attack us, we just got

1101
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: to sit there and be like.

1102
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 3: I'm not like them, niggas. No, I get it.

1103
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: You if if someone were to say all black men

1104
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: are rapists and you were like, fuck you, that's not true.

1105
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: I totally understand that, but that's not what's happening here.

1106
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: Even framing this as an attack on you says a

1107
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 1: lot about what your sensibilities are.

1108
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 3: And they're gonna be men who.

1109
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: Will take this guy as attacking them. And that part

1110
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 1: is sad, you know, I remember, Yeah, it's just sad.

1111
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 5: Amen, you want to turn it up or not? Yea,

1112
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 5: Get you a good woman and get you a good

1113
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 5: black woman in your cornermen, man, you want to see

1114
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 5: your life turn up hey and see. This is the

1115
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 5: thing though, that's a It's a privilege, bro, it's a privilege.

1116
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. We we often disregard the

1117
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 5: power of our black women, the spiritual essence that they're

1118
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 5: gonna bring to things, the knowing, the seeing, you know

1119
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Also, to imagine it, imagine it. They

1120
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 5: have to be hyper vigilant because they have to be

1121
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 5: constantly scanning the room making sure that they're in a

1122
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 5: safe situation. Absolutely, you know what I'm saying. When we

1123
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 5: think about these kids who were clearly in Louisiana having

1124
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 5: the time of their fucking life because they graduated. And

1125
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 5: we think about white people's reaction to black joy. It's

1126
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 5: not about civility, it's not about the current. They don't

1127
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 5: like to see us happy.

1128
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 3: That's what it is.

1129
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 5: Now. How often are women just having a good time

1130
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 5: and here come a nigga trying to ruin their fun.

1131
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just be honest.

1132
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 5: You can call it pandering. But if I was up

1133
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 5: here caping for white women, you wouldn't even mention that word.

1134
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 5: If I was up here caping for Hispanic women, you

1135
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 5: wouldn't even call it pandering. Only when we take take

1136
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 5: pride and show love to black women, do you call

1137
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 5: it pandain get your motherfucking mind right? You yall got

1138
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 5: a bad sign? Yeah, I mean I think that's facts.

1139
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: It's also like it reminds me of that incident where

1140
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: there were black women on the train and like they

1141
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: were taking a wine tour and they got kicked off

1142
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: the train and it was like everybody turned into cause

1143
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: you know black women, they be loud and they was

1144
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: probably in there doing this, this and this, and I'm like, well,

1145
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: the women said they weren't. They're suing like.

1146
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 3: Like they didn't get off and just go like, I'm embarrassed.

1147
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 3: But it was so easy to believe these.

1148
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: Black women deserved whatever happened to them, you know, even

1149
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: as they were saying, no, this was racial discrimination. We

1150
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 1: weren't doing anything that anyone else on the train wasn't doing.

1151
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: It just reminds me of those things anecdotally, like I

1152
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: just think of those small things because.

1153
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: It is so easy to just boom, it's.

1154
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: Y'all's fault and this and as true to form as

1155
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: he said, they are calling him pandering, they are attacking

1156
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: his credibility, they are calling him an op.

1157
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: They're saying the government send him here to he's.

1158
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: Talking about the gender war divide and trying to bridge

1159
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: it and say hey, there's accountability we can have on

1160
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: our side and we just handle our shit as men.

1161
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: And they're like, clearly, this man is a CIA plant.

1162
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: This is the podcast Mike's we need to get rid of,

1163
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: not the not the people doing those yeah, not the

1164
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: thoughts podcast And what would you do if your woman

1165
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: came home and she you.

1166
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: Know, not those shows that we need to get rid

1167
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 3: of him.

1168
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 4: It's crazy, right, Yeah, going back and sitting and thinking

1169
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 4: also and so when you're dealing with people that are

1170
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 4: in the matrix, they don't like to hear the truth,

1171
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 4: and those people will never admit at the end of

1172
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: the day, they like being in the matrix and they

1173
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: like taking the red peel even though they know this

1174
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 4: shit ain't real, even though some of them know, they

1175
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 4: know the algorithms till like they some people are over

1176
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 4: there and they absolutely positively they know.

1177
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: Some people.

1178
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 4: You know, you do have some people that got tricked

1179
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 4: and be like, hey, wait a minute, I'm in the matrix,

1180
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: but some.

1181
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: People don't know. I wake up every day, I know

1182
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: this is bullshit. They know this is bullshit.

1183
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 4: I decide to drink this fake orange juice because this

1184
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 4: is where the fuck I like to be.

1185
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's easier to believe that kind of shit

1186
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: than to sit back with you know, like complex thoughts

1187
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: about it.

1188
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, it was just you know, I wanted

1189
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 3: to talk.

1190
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: About that just because I really did think, Man, this

1191
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 1: reminds me so much of what I've been through. And

1192
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: he seems built ford like he's on Twitter being like,

1193
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, essentially I said what I said, and you know,

1194
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: it probably also helps that you know, it's blowing up

1195
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: like it's getting so many views and stuff. But you know, honestly,

1196
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: I think about that, and I think about the attacks

1197
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: that or online uh pushback that I got, and I'm like,

1198
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be even bigger it's got because I

1199
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: didn't have four well I don't know how many of

1200
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: you I had because I fucking turned everything off at

1201
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: that time. But whatever the amount of views is that

1202
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: he's getting for this, there are people that are in

1203
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: that red pill in cell culture that are going to

1204
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: talk about his family, that are going to say things

1205
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: on his social media, that are going to write his podcast,

1206
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: that are going to harass him or try to dock him.

1207
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: That's the world that we're living in. If anything, that

1208
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: part has gotten worse, not.

1209
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: Better, it has. It has. And as somebody who.

1210
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 4: Particularly, the thing that hit the most was when black

1211
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 4: women are having a good time, how you know, a

1212
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 4: random ass niggas just pop up out of nowhere. I

1213
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 4: remember this happened years ago. I don't remember it was

1214
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 4: album a, Beyonce's birthday or something like that. This happened

1215
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 4: years Agoing on Facebook, I was like, yeah, i'ma post

1216
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 4: a bunch of Beyonce pictures and even the caption. I

1217
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 4: was like, don't come up here, Styn, no bullshit, and

1218
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 4: like seconds later and I was.

1219
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: Like, nigga, why are you over here?

1220
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 3: And they was like second later what.

1221
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 4: Somebody somebody came in there and was just say, I

1222
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 4: don't like Beyonce. I didn't ask you don't care, why

1223
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 4: are you here? And I specifically in the caption nigga,

1224
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 4: it said, don't if you don't go fuck, keep it going.

1225
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 4: Nobody asks you to be in the goddamn room. And

1226
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 4: so that's the shit I'm talking about. You know, It's

1227
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 4: just something niggas I don't like beyonda nigga, I don't care.

1228
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 4: I don't care, you know. And it's one of those

1229
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 4: things where it's because they're frustrated and very irritating for

1230
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 4: shit like that, because it's all entertainment, you know what

1231
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, and and what's so sassin about up

1232
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 4: at the point? Y'all got time to argue with this, nigga,

1233
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 4: But you ain't got time to fucking vote.

1234
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: You got time to waste time and energy, dock.

1235
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 4: Somebody investigate, go go go go, go go be a

1236
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 4: fucking journalist about shit like this.

1237
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: But you don't know who's running your state, you don't

1238
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: know who to vote for.

1239
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 4: You don't want to find out truth about that, And

1240
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: that's the shit a lot of issues, the goddamn distraction

1241
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 4: from the reality of you don't want personal responsibility for

1242
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 4: what's happening in your life.

1243
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: You feel like everything's out of.

1244
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 4: Control, and so instead of you saying, hey, I need

1245
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 4: to get grasp on this, I need to figure out

1246
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 4: I need to place my feet on the ground and

1247
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: fucking stop spiraling, you do shit like this to continue

1248
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 4: to waste time because you don't want to take a

1249
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 4: personal accountability and responsibility and look around and be like,

1250
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 4: what can I do to make things better? You havether

1251
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 4: waste hours online arguing with him about something at the

1252
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 4: end of the day that doesn't fucking matter. I'm telling funny,

1253
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 4: He's not a goddamn politician, he's not a licted official.

1254
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: You know, there's other more important shit.

1255
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 4: That you can waste time arguing about shit that would

1256
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 4: actually impact your life.

1257
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1258
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: I think another part of this equation that's not being

1259
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: discussed is that a lot of the commentary back at

1260
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: him is also at this point been essentially monetized. So

1261
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: when I said this. There were people that probably genuinely

1262
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: disagreed and stuff. But then there's people like doctor Hotep

1263
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: or whatever that I'm sure was like, I'm going to

1264
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: use him for content. He just wanted to use what

1265
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: I had to say to try to get some views, right.

1266
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 3: He didn't really give a fuck about me.

1267
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: And it was so amazing because because I had muted

1268
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: or whatever, I didn't see that conversation at the time,

1269
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: but I remember something happened. I don't know if Elon

1270
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: must changed how blocks work or something. I don't know,

1271
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: something happened, and I started seeing people still like replying

1272
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: to that tweet, and I since.

1273
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 3: I've been deleted or whatever.

1274
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: But what was interesting is that dude, mister doctor Hotep whatever,

1275
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: that dude had added me so many times sharing his video,

1276
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: meaning I was only content.

1277
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: He didn't give a fuck about what he was like,

1278
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 3: oohs I got some bytes.

1279
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: Some people like this and reply to this, and all

1280
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: these people are replying, and they're tagging me and saying,

1281
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: vow shit to me. He can't give a fuck about

1282
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: me as a black person either, you know. But it's

1283
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: just interesting because it's content. So now when you look

1284
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,919
Speaker 1: at Deontay Cow's replies, it's a lot of blue check

1285
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: black men who are doing stuff like this for content,

1286
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: and of course blue checks go first. Under replies, blue

1287
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: checks send Eli Musk a check a monthly fee so

1288
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: that they can get that higher engagement.

1289
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 3: And when I tell.

1290
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: You, you look under here, and it's just some of

1291
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: the people that are just trying to get as much

1292
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: traction out of pushing back as they can. Yeah, you know, so, Yeah,

1293
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: it's just been interesting to see because I don't think

1294
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: you can have this conversation online.

1295
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 3: Like the clip is the clip. If you agree, you're

1296
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 3: gonna share.

1297
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: If you don't like it, you're gonna share, and we're

1298
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: gonna argue until it gets more and more attention. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible to have these discussions anywhere

1300
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: but a long form situation like our podcast or something

1301
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: like that, because if you put it in a clip form,

1302
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: it's just feeding into the same algorithm that you're hoping

1303
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: would change something, and it's not going to be seen

1304
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: as educational or understand it's gonna be seen as an

1305
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: attack and just part of the gender wars and stuff.

1306
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's what's ultimately gonna happen to him

1307
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: is brothers that don't want to hear this shit.

1308
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 3: Are gonna ultimately group him.

1309
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: Indeed, you're just part of the gender wars, uh, whatever

1310
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to dismiss him, and they're not gonna

1311
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: listen to content or what he had to say, which

1312
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: is what I found when when when when it was me,

1313
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: very only people that already agree with me really was

1314
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: coming like to be like, let me share this. And

1315
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: then there were a few people who listen to the

1316
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: podcast long form who are like, oh, I see what

1317
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: you're saying, Like, oh, I didn't get it when I

1318
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: read the tweet, but when you explained it on.

1319
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 3: The show, I get it.

1320
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: But that was few and far between compared to the

1321
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: amount of people that were like, just you know, it

1322
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: only takes a second to call me a motherfucker, a

1323
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: bitch or a simp or whatever, and so they just did.

1324
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 4: That instead, right, and a lot of times at the

1325
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 4: end of the day, there's no good faith and so

1326
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 4: because of that, that's the foundation of the whole conversation.

1327
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 4: And like you said, a lot of people make money

1328
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 4: off agenda wars. Like you said, they make contents off

1329
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 4: agenda wars. Like it's whole podcasts off agenda wars, and

1330
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 4: so when you look down there, you're attacking the foundation

1331
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 4: of how a lot of these people make their money

1332
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 4: and make their living. So they feel like, hey, doll,

1333
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 4: you can't be out here because guess what you talk,

1334
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 4: somebody will actually listen to you. It might not be

1335
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 4: a small or large percentage of people, but somebody might

1336
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 4: actually listen to you. All of a sudden, they unsubscribed,

1337
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 4: the unclicked, like all of a sudden, they unplugged themselves

1338
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 4: from a matrix. And I need every single follower, I

1339
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 4: need every single view. I ain need be every single click,

1340
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 4: and I can't have you quote unquote sucking up my coins.

1341
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then, like I said, I appreciate dude, I

1342
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: appreciate what he's saying. I don't know everything about his

1343
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: show and everything about him. I'm sure that there's something

1344
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: he said that people probably do disagree with, or you.

1345
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 3: Know, some.

1346
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: Language or something he hasn't perfected or said the right

1347
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: way for other people to like it.

1348
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 3: But I'm not one of those people.

1349
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm totally fine with like you communicate how you communicate,

1350
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: And I think his heart seems to be in the

1351
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: right place.

1352
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 3: Every time I've seen a clip in him, I've been.

1353
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: Like cool, and I think, if nothing else, if you're

1354
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: listening to sound of our voice and you're one of

1355
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: these people like this motherfucker right here, he's making it worse. Fine,

1356
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: Here's what I would ask you, though, do you not

1357
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 1: appreciate the balance? Because if nothing else, how can you

1358
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: not be sick of the representatives of us as black

1359
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: men in the media space having such vitriol for women

1360
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: in general, but also very often.

1361
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 3: Uh trafficking and.

1362
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: Extreme like not just misogyny or like massage noirs like

1363
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: extreme like you to me, I don't.

1364
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 3: If we live in a world where people.

1365
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 1: Can say free Tory Lanes, then this, this dude three

1366
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: minute clip of his podcast is not a problem, right,

1367
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: Like if that's if that's like because the one thing

1368
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: is existing and always getting the views and there's not

1369
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: enough pushback on it, you know it. That's when everybody

1370
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: wants to turn into I'm not a lawyer, you know,

1371
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: when the hip hop blogs are covering Diddy like he's

1372
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: winning that try, you know what I mean, Like, I

1373
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: don't see how you have an issue. I don't see

1374
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: how you have as equal an issue.

1375
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 3: Here when.

1376
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: One, two, three, three of the top black hip hop

1377
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: blog podcasts and probably more if I think about it,

1378
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: are held by men who have legitimate issues with women

1379
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: in the way they handle their business, but also legitimate

1380
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: accusations that have been leveled at them, talking to like

1381
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: sexual assault, physical abuse.

1382
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 3: Sexual harassment at work.

1383
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: And these are our representatives who are talking about our music,

1384
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: and people don't seem to have as nearly as much

1385
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: a problem with them because they it's like the longer

1386
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: they stay around, the more we're just like, I guess

1387
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: it's okay, right, And somebody who didn't name any names,

1388
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: didn't call on anyone personally, just comes in and says, hey,

1389
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: when you're looking around and you're seeing free toy, when

1390
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: you're seeing Cassie just like doing drugs, she was into

1391
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: that shit. When you're seeing that type of rhetoric and

1392
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: you're not questioning it and it's coming and the people

1393
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: that are co signing it and big upping it and

1394
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: agreeing with you are the same people think George Floyd

1395
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: died by car exhaust fumes and telling you they need

1396
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 1: to free Derek Chauvin. That's what that congress woman believes

1397
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: that said free Tory Lanes.

1398
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:37,879
Speaker 3: That's what she believes.

1399
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:43,799
Speaker 1: So like that bigotry puts some strange bad fellows together

1400
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: and to have a voice that's questioning that, and that's

1401
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: the guy we want to harass or put on the

1402
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: summer jam screen or accuse of being an OP.

1403
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 3: It just feels weird.

1404
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: Man, Like I'm not saying I'm for the record, I'm

1405
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: just making a jail or observation. This is not how

1406
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: I feel. But popped the Balloon is more of a

1407
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: OPT than this dude to me, And I'm not saying

1408
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: popped the Balloon is like something like we can't fuck,

1409
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: but like we're just talking about exacerbating gender wars and

1410
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:14,839
Speaker 1: norms and making.

1411
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 3: Us fight each other. Like there's a lot there's a

1412
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 3: lot of people I had to go down the checklist

1413
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 3: before I really get to this guy.

1414
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe those are my biases talking because

1415
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with a lot of what he's saying,

1416
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 1: and you know, I think I think he's making valid

1417
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: points and I just hate to see that we haven't

1418
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 1: really gotten further in the social media space in the

1419
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: ten years since I said that shit or so, and

1420
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,560
Speaker 1: if anything, it seems like it got worse, Like I

1421
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: probably would have got it worse if I said that

1422
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: shit today.

1423
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 4: Of course, you know, of course, and back then it

1424
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 4: was a lot and as somebody who it didn't happen

1425
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 4: directly to me, but I was impacted by my perspective

1426
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 4: on these things. Like on some of those things, I

1427
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 4: have a very hardh stance because all looks at the average person.

1428
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to funny, y'all.

1429
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 4: Y'all don't have enough followers, You're not really online, You're

1430
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 4: not really nobody, and so nobody really cares about you

1431
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 4: blocking one of your one hundred followers. Nobody really cares

1432
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 4: about you know, something go viral and make get a

1433
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 4: hundred retweets or likes. That's like a big day for you.

1434
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 4: Nobody really cares. Nobody's following you, nobody's actually looking for you,

1435
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 4: Nobody actually really cares what you have to say.

1436
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 2: The average person online, So you never.

1437
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 4: Understand why people do what they do because you think, well,

1438
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 4: I'm just one person versus the millions of people that.

1439
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: Are going at one person.

1440
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 4: The brain and just people aren't designed to have a

1441
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 4: lot of people coming at them at once and being

1442
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 4: able to decipher who's good, who's bad, who's not, who

1443
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 4: has good faith and who doesn't. You know, that's what

1444
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 4: the algorithm does, is what the internet does. And so

1445
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 4: you know, for me, it's like fighting water. You're not

1446
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 4: gonna wear the water will eventually drown you. And that's

1447
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 4: something that I had to learn. And so for me personally,

1448
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 4: I'm online, but nothing like I used to be because

1449
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 4: I've realized all aside, it's just a cess pool. And

1450
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 4: so when you realize it's a cess pool, but it's

1451
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 4: a cess pool that you're in and you're never actually

1452
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 4: gonna get out if you have a social media account

1453
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 4: any and if you learn, you're still in a cess pool.

1454
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 4: And so you know, you have to figure out how

1455
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 4: deep do I want this cesspool to go out?

1456
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,879
Speaker 2: All my ankles, my toes, do I want to completely

1457
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: consume me? And it varies to you.

1458
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 4: Like I said, it's a little bit of drugs or

1459
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 4: a whole lot of drugs.

1460
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, is still a drug.

1461
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 4: And so because like sitting back and thinking of some

1462
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 4: of the things that would happen in the you child,

1463
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 4: I wanted to burn the world down because I love

1464
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 4: you very much, and I'm like, how dare you for

1465
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 4: call my husband?

1466
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 2: How dare you misinterpret my husband? My husband never do

1467
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: these things.

1468
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 4: But I had to learn, you know that it's not

1469
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 4: worth the time, the energy, know the effort. And at

1470
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 4: the end of the day, nobody's mind was being changed.

1471
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 4: And just like I don't know them, They don't know

1472
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 4: me nor my husband.

1473
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: What what does this say about the fragility of our.

1474
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 3: Of the story?

1475
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: We tell ourselves that one brother getting off message is

1476
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: enough to cause this much backlash, you know what I mean, Like,

1477
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: it's just his fucking opinion. The same way it's just

1478
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: the opinion of Kevin Samuels, right, But there's people that

1479
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: will go out of their way to bend over back

1480
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: to be like, well, you know, Kevin Samuels, not everything

1481
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: he said was bad. You know, you got to hear

1482
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: him out. Some niaz these women do be blank. But

1483
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny that, like this dude went off

1484
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 1: message on a couple of clips that you saw because

1485
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: people do not push back on him this hard when

1486
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,839
Speaker 1: he talks about white supremacy or racism and the government

1487
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: and shit like that.

1488
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 3: But as soon as he started talking.

1489
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:07,799
Speaker 1: About some something that benefited or at least had empathy

1490
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: for black women. It became like this man needs to

1491
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: be excised from the community. Now, I'm not saying everybody.

1492
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 1: Obviously many people support shared it love and right, you know,

1493
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: and honestly, like so there were a lot of black

1494
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: women who were just thankful for like somebody sounded like

1495
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 1: they made some fucking sense, right, you know. I always said,

1496
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: like the shits and gigs dude showed how thirsty and

1497
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: starved black women are. For just brothers that aren't pushing

1498
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: toxic shit about black women.

1499
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 3: And it's not.

1500
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 1: That they ultimately were like these great dudes. I always

1501
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: always say, used this phrase doing the reading. The vast

1502
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: majority of people of privilege do not do the reading, right, like,

1503
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: and I think that's everyone that that's if you are

1504
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: privileged in most areas there, I guarantee you you talk.

1505
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 1: Even if you're a good person, if you're an ally,

1506
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: even if you speak, whatever it is, you probably still

1507
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: ain't trying to turn it into work, right.

1508
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 3: Right, And I get it. I'm not.

1509
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,839
Speaker 1: This is not me chastising people. This is just facts

1510
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: to me. So I don't know that he's done the reading.

1511
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 3: He may have. I don't know that he's done the reading.

1512
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1513
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: I think on one of the books on his shelf

1514
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: was Mama Mentality, Kobe Bryant accused of rape. Like this

1515
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: is like, so I'm not And this is not me

1516
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: calling him out. This is me saying like, I don't.

1517
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: He seemed like he just got a good heart and

1518
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: his mind is in the right place.

1519
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 2: Right.

1520
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: That should not be a threat to people. But we're

1521
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: treating it like it's a threat. And when I think about,

1522
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, like I read I just finished reading that

1523
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: God Say the Queens about Black women and hip hop.

1524
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 3: Essentially.

1525
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: I finished this book yesterday called Grown by Tiffany D.

1526
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 3: Jackson.

1527
01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: It's about a seventeen year old aspiring singer who based

1528
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: gets like an R Kelly figure that comes into her

1529
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: life and tries to like and just abuses her and shit.

1530
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1531
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: But obviously the message is about, you know, the community

1532
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 1: that allows an R Kelly to exist, not just the

1533
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: R Kelly or just the girl or whatever. It's the

1534
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: whole of it, all, the industry of it all there,

1535
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: you know, there's I've made a conscientious effort to read

1536
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: certain things about black women specifically because I want to

1537
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: know it. I don't want to just like I think

1538
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: that's why you get into these platitudes where dudes talking

1539
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: generalizations like black women don't have thoughts of their own,

1540
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: like they didn't write them down, Like you can't read

1541
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: them and find out yourself, Like can't listen like can't

1542
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: listen to a podcasts talk about it or something without

1543
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: the defensiveness, without the hostility, without the I need to

1544
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: shut this down. It's making me feel bad. And in

1545
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: that way, that does remind me of privilege. And when

1546
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: you think of privilege, it always goes back to whiteness

1547
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: in America, and white people don't like to be feeling uncomfortable.

1548
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 3: That's why they attack.

1549
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: They don't like when we're saying black lives matter, they

1550
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: have to come up with a slogan equal in opposite,

1551
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: and yet we would interrogate that in them, but they

1552
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: don't interrogate it in themselves necessarily not in mass And

1553
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: this is an area where I think it is not equal, but.

1554
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 3: It is parallel.

1555
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 2: It is.

1556
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: Related, this idea of like, well, I don't need to

1557
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: actually read anything about these black women. I don't need

1558
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 1: to like examine myself with my biases. It's the people

1559
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: making me feel comfortable that are wrong. He's wrong because

1560
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: I feel uncomfortable about what he's saying. He's saying men

1561
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: can be better. That's not love, that's an attack, you know.

1562
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I guess I just was raised a

1563
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: little bit differently, you know, because I don't. I think

1564
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: part of not just correction, but part of love is

1565
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: to be like I can see better in you than

1566
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: you can see in yourself. Sometimes I'm not telling you

1567
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: you're the best when you aren't the best, but I

1568
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: always see the potential for you to be the best.

1569
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: And I'm not just using this as a cudgel to

1570
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 1: beat you down. I'm not moving a goal post on you.

1571
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: Some of these things are such simple things, and if

1572
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: you're doing them, congratulations, I'm doing them too, and I'm

1573
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: hoping that we continue to do them, Like I'm not like,

1574
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm here out of love for you, But I just

1575
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: don't know that that gets communicated online, so.

1576
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 3: I'm not go ahead.

1577
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 4: And also it's one of the things for me and

1578
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 4: just us having this conversation that's making me think it's

1579
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 4: funny how just a lot of people, you know, how

1580
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 4: we talk about MLK and how great of a man

1581
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 4: he was and things like that. Sometimes I think about

1582
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 4: people in history and if these people are around now,

1583
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 4: how people would shoot their ideas down, and how people

1584
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 4: would would basically tear a lot of the things that

1585
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 4: they were doing for the good greater the community apart.

1586
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 4: I'm pretty and I know, you know, there's books and

1587
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 4: things like that people didn't agree with, you know, m

1588
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 4: okay and all these things about you know, how they

1589
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 4: did things. But with the way it is now, a

1590
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 4: lot of the things that these people accomplished they would

1591
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 4: not have accomplished in the age of social media because

1592
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 4: people would not have even allowed them to do these

1593
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 4: things for the betterment of the people, because everybody thinks

1594
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 4: that they know what's best for the people. When the

1595
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 4: average person is so selfish and so self centered that

1596
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 4: the community is the last thing they actually think about

1597
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 4: when they you know, when they think about and not

1598
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,440
Speaker 4: all you know, those reasons say this, But it's very frustrating

1599
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 4: when something happens and then the man goes, but I

1600
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 4: love my mom, I love my sister, I love we

1601
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 4: go okay, nigga, but they related to you what what about? What? Not?

1602
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 2: So funny, what about the bitches it ain't? What about them?

1603
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1604
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: What about the bitches that ain't exactly because we respect

1605
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: these women.

1606
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 3: No, but seriously, I think it is. Yeah.

1607
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk in circles about it, but yeah,

1608
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: I think it's a real issue. And I think it's

1609
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: kind of interesting to see like what is allowed to

1610
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: exist for people because what happened, what I notice happens,

1611
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of brothers noticed this as well.

1612
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,480
Speaker 3: If I were to be like, yo.

1613
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: This person beat up this woman, they go, that's not

1614
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: a real man, or that's just him.

1615
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 3: Why are you looking at me? Or whatever?

1616
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: If I go, okay, well, statistically, these stats for intraracial

1617
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: domestic violence are astounding. Black women are targeted more than

1618
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: any other demographic in America.

1619
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,679
Speaker 3: Well, I don't be hitting no black women. I don't

1620
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 3: know nobody.

1621
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: Okay, so what are we saying? This don't exist? We're

1622
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: just gaslight these women. Now you didn't really, because that's

1623
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 1: why people are to me, that's what leads people to

1624
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: be not trusting. That's when it's us saying, hey, the

1625
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: cops are sometimes doing wrong things to black people, and

1626
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: then people going, I don't know no bad cops.

1627
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,480
Speaker 3: Well, it's a force full of these motherfuckers.

1628
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: Somebody got to know somebody right, like maybe if he

1629
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: ain't trusting you with it, but somebody doing something right.

1630
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: They don't keep making the headlines because it's not happening, right,

1631
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 1: So what do you do with that?

1632
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 4: Like I said, nobody has a rapist, but these people

1633
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 4: keep getting raped.

1634
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, that make it make sense.

1635
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, anyway, I appreciate it. It's late. We're not

1636
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 3: going to do any other segments. I'm gonna let the

1637
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 3: AI put the ads.

1638
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 2: Wherever it wants to put on whatever it may.

1639
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I took a nap, y'all.

1640
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 2: Sorry I was.

1641
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I kind of did want to

1642
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 1: talk about this because I just hadn't really because I

1643
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: know other podcasts going to talk about this, and a

1644
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 1: lot of them are going to go in on this

1645
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 1: dude or dismiss him or say he's pandering, or act

1646
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 1: like like it's an attack.

1647
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 3: And so I would like y'all to hear another perspective.

1648
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 4: That's not that me and and and and that's the thing.

1649
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 4: People act like pandering only supposed to happen to certain

1650
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 4: groups of people.

1651
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 2: Panda to me. You know, that's just like when it

1652
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: comes to voting, pander to me. You know what I'm saying.

1653
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: I guess I think I don't want to label him

1654
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: as that, but I hear what you're saying. It It

1655
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: is interesting that people that our culture decided that serving

1656
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: black women was somehow corny and bad and wrong and

1657
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: the easy way out. And I feel like that conversation

1658
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: goes a little further than just a podcast and the

1659
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 1: radio and shit. But our culture definitely did decide that

1660
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: at some point, like like even R and B motherfuckers

1661
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: sing more about the like to dudes than they're singing

1662
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: to women. And I don't mean they sing like I

1663
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: want to fuck the dude, but they're singing to you

1664
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna take your girl.

1665
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 3: Like that's a weird thing to sing.

1666
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: I came to the concert with my girl and you're

1667
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: not trying to sing to her, tos aeducer and all

1668
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: this shit you're wrapping to me and whatever. So something

1669
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: did change in our culture in my lifetime where it

1670
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: does feel like it has become.

1671
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 3: Bad to to to see women as.

1672
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: An audience, right right, So I don't say I don't

1673
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 1: think you're wrong there but I'm just saying I wouldn't

1674
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 1: even group his what I'm hearing. I'm hoping it doesn't

1675
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: even sound like I'm just pandering, because I've heard what

1676
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: I would consider to be like dudes that pander, And

1677
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: once again, nobody does the reading. You can tell, like

1678
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: when it's to me, it's easier to tell when somebody's

1679
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: just pandering because they are saying the platitudes and repeating

1680
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: like what they see online, and just like it's just

1681
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: let me go find a black feminist Twitter feed and

1682
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 1: just read y'all what she wrote and pretend that I

1683
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: came up with it, you know, so I would hope

1684
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: he's not doing that. But I definitely understand your point,

1685
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 1: which is if and I was thinking about this too

1686
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: as a podcast, it's crazy people don't see that as

1687
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: a good business model, just even as a cynical capitalist idea.

1688
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,440
Speaker 1: Black women spend way more money, they're way more supportive,

1689
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: they're way more likely to listen to you.

1690
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: We're trained to.

1691
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: But the pressure on black men, from black men and

1692
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: society at large to fit within a certain box and

1693
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: have a certain attitude about women is more overwhelming than

1694
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: the potential of making money. Just even if you were

1695
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: pretending to like black women, it is more important for

1696
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: them to fit into this box of like, nah, I

1697
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: keep it real and I'll tell these women some negative

1698
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: shit about them.

1699
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,759
Speaker 4: Right, and before we go, let's take it back to Target,

1700
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 4: because I look at this now, targets have Black people

1701
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 4: spent a lot of money at Target, and when that

1702
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 4: audience left, Target is feeling to burn. And the thing is,

1703
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 4: racism is the irrational and logical. This misogyny stuff is

1704
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 4: in logical because, like you said, the potential to make

1705
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 4: more money, you don't care about that target's potential to

1706
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 4: keep their money and make more money. They didn't care

1707
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 4: about that. The racism calls or the misogyny calls or

1708
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 4: whatever was greater than the potential of you making more

1709
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,480
Speaker 4: money off of an audience that is underserved.

1710
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 2: And the thing is, and it's.

1711
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 4: Always shocking, particularly with like black and brown and other

1712
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 4: people were always underserved. And then when we're overserved most

1713
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 4: of the time by people by by by people within

1714
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 4: the own community, everybody is shocked.

1715
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 2: Everybody's always surprised. Everybody's always like, oh.

1716
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 3: My gosh, this blig, this blig new thing, and people go,

1717
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 3: this is shit.

1718
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 4: We do on our community agrease I had all the time.

1719
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 4: We always wear head rats, but because you ignore us,

1720
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 4: like with Rihanna. When Rihanna came out with Venting, all

1721
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 4: of a sudden, everybody got fifty five hundred different colors.

1722
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 2: But before her, it was you. You had to be.

1723
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 4: A home chemist for makeup and shit like that, and

1724
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 4: it becomes very frustrating. It's amazing how people can see

1725
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 4: the difference in target, but they can't see that difference

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01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 4: with like like like.

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01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: I know brothers that to this they have not found

1728
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: a way to truly succeed with their content and their

1729
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: podcasts and stuff, and they try every trick in the book,

1730
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, it's like, look

1731
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: at how you.

1732
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 3: Talk, Look at how you talk.

1733
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: You think black people are just black men, that's it,

1734
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: and that's who you want to serve, which is if

1735
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: that's what you believe, that's the gambit you want to

1736
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: the gamble you want to take. That's fine, but understand

1737
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 1: that you're at that point you're talking to a small

1738
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 1: percentage of black people, and not small.

1739
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 3: But you're talking to half of the black people.

1740
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: Then you're cutting that down by probably because if you

1741
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: don't talk nice about women, probably don't talk nice about

1742
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: gay people. Then you got children. They're not listening to

1743
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,839
Speaker 1: your adult content. So now you've cut it down even smaller.

1744
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you're cutting it down

1745
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: to a group that has some of them not going

1746
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: to agree with the shit you be having to say.

1747
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: And lastly, they don't support shit, so you don't have

1748
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 1: a lot of these dudes are not going to support

1749
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: a sea of dudes that are just shitting on women.

1750
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 3: They can go get that for free anywhere.

1751
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:07,799
Speaker 2: I agreed.

1752
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: So now obviously I'm talking about a cynical point of

1753
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: view where people would just be pandering and they wouldn't

1754
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 1: really believe any of the shit they're saying anyway. Right,

1755
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 1: But like, I think one of the secrets to the

1756
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: success we've had is that this is a place where

1757
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: black women can listen.

1758
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 3: And I don't say it in any like pat me

1759
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 3: on the backway.

1760
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 1: I just mean I'm actively thinking of black women as

1761
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: part of our audience when we do a show, and

1762
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 1: you're thinking it because you are a black woman. And

1763
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: and I don't think we're the most like left wing,

1764
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: most progressive. I don't think we're the most like trigger warning,

1765
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna like, I don't think we're I think we're

1766
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: just two niggas talking, right, So it isn't isn't this

1767
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 1: like space of like pandering and all that stuff and

1768
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: saying the perfect thing?

1769
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 3: And you know the film this Proxy that I.

1770
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 1: Read, it's not that we're just actively trying not to

1771
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 1: be toxic towards black women, right, and people be like,

1772
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 1: how y'all been making the how you That's part of

1773
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: the reason when you go look at our demographics on

1774
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: our stats, Yeah, it's like fifty percent women, one percent

1775
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: non binary slash other, forty nine percent men. And I'm

1776
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: proud of that, not because I'm like proud of on

1777
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: some like, I'm just proud of that because it shows

1778
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: a balance to what we do.

1779
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: Shows a balance.

1780
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you make a cookout where everybody can come

1781
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 1: and enjoy themselves, that everybody gonna come and eat.

1782
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 3: But if you make a cookout.

1783
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 1: That's only designed for one or the other, you're gonna

1784
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 1: get people.

1785
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 3: But it's not gonna be the same amount of people,

1786
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 3: and they won't be able to coexist with each other.

1787
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 1: I love when we do a live show in that

1788
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: space of people that is all kinds of people.

1789
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 5: It is.

1790
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 1: But when I see how many black men black women

1791
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: are in there hanging out together, and it's just the

1792
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: opposite of what it is online, and they're not coming

1793
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: there to listen to us, like try to find some

1794
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: way to ship on somebody, like they're just hanging out

1795
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 1: having a good time. That's the space I always picture

1796
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 1: in my head when we do this show, and I

1797
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: think it's come to fruition. So if you're a content

1798
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: creator or something and you're not getting those results, close

1799
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:19,799
Speaker 1: your eyes.

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01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 3: Who is the person you see yourself talking to? That's why.

1801
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 1: That's a big part of why and how you talk

1802
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: to them and what you have to say and how

1803
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: you value those people. But yeah, anyway, the long tangent

1804
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: but worth talking about. I don't even know what we'll

1805
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 1: name this episode, but shout out to Grits and Eggs,

1806
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: shout out to the people in the chat for this

1807
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: late night edition, and I guess shout out to the.

1808
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 3: Pacers for taking care of the knicks. They three to

1809
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 3: one now looking like Pacers thunder y'all right, who saw

1810
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 3: this coming? But yeah, until next time, I love you.