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Speaker 1: going with a volume turnover approach will change their approach

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Speaker 1: this offseason. It may not. They might just say dollars

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Speaker 1: in dollars out again. Boy. They might say, let's get

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Speaker 1: somebody we know for sure is a better talent, even

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Speaker 1: if it comes at the cost of having a clip

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Speaker 1: a guy or too from that very composition group. I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna come down to each It's not. I

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Speaker 1: think we're sitting here talking about the D line. I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna go break it down and say, what

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Speaker 1: about this guy right here, this one individual guy, What

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Speaker 1: do we think of him? Did we get that money

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Speaker 1: out of him? If we did, let's hang on to him.

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Speaker 1: What about this? Why wasn't the h They'll go down

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Speaker 1: each on an individual basis and say, listen, we're not

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Speaker 1: it's not this wasn't good enough, that wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 1: Those they're out. This guy stays or that guy stays,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna go with that. I would see it's

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Speaker 1: more like that. It's gonna be an individual thing. Now.

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Speaker 1: They may say on a macro level, like, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: got to look at all those guys up front. You

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Speaker 1: know we're gonna do, We're gonna reevaluate, and maybe our

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Speaker 1: philosophy wasn't wrong, or maybe we're looking for the wrong

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Speaker 1: kind of guy, or maybe our evaluation process and picking

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Speaker 1: the guys we picked was a little bit flawed. Let's

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Speaker 1: change it a little bit and see where that takes

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Speaker 1: us this offseason and see what kind of guys they

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Speaker 1: can drum up. That's I think though. That's the hard

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Speaker 1: part for Bills fans right now, is the fact that

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Speaker 1: as good as this team was, as fun as it

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Speaker 1: was to watch in twenty twenty, man, oh man, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna rinse and repeat. They're gonna rinse and

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Speaker 1: repeat with different people, right Yeah. I just I'm very

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Speaker 1: curious to see the degree of change. Number one because

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Speaker 1: of the restrictive cap, and then number two because of

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Speaker 1: how some volume change choices last year didn't pan out

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Speaker 1: to the degree that they had hoped. And again I'm pointing.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm brilliant, you know, playing a broken record

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Speaker 1: here with the defensive line. I just wonder if it

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Speaker 1: changes how they choose to make the changes. Do they

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Speaker 1: make it in the form of one proven player upgrade

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Speaker 1: that they feel alone can kind of change the fortunes

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Speaker 1: of a position group, or do they just flush out

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Speaker 1: who didn't work last year and bring in a whole

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Speaker 1: new crew of volume and do it that way again,

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Speaker 1: hoping that it hits. They hit on it, or they

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Speaker 1: hit on the player combinations that they're now putting together.

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Speaker 1: It's really it's, you know, it's a thousand piece puzzle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes all the pieces don't fit. Yeah. And our

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll today is great because the first guy that

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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll is which Bill's defensive player needs to

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Speaker 1: have a breakout season in twenty twenty one. And the

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Speaker 1: first response to the Twitter poll was, I can't remember

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Speaker 1: the guy's name. He said, there's only one there's only

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Speaker 1: one answer to this, one appropriate answer to this thing,

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Speaker 1: and it's JJ Watt, guy that's not even on the

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Speaker 1: roster yet. That is that's hilarious. So that's where you're at.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really intriguing to think about this because this

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Speaker 1: is if this offseasons, like last offseason, you're gonna wash

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Speaker 1: through a ton of guys. And we really, we were,

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Speaker 1: we were wringing our hands last year just trying to

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Speaker 1: get this offense a little better, and then they come

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Speaker 1: out and just they light it up offensively all years

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Speaker 1: start to finish and the defense is having trouble stopping,

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Speaker 1: and the defense was struggling and they have some injuries.

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Speaker 1: But still yeah, and that yeah, and it was a

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Speaker 1: funky chemistry equation as well, because you had one guy

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Speaker 1: in there that probably you know, starlotu Lele was out

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that would have been the magic elixir,

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Speaker 1: but you know, you start changing an ingredient and that

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Speaker 1: ingredient affects other ingredients, and that's why I'm saying, I'm

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Speaker 1: very curious to see what the change is going to

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Speaker 1: be because it doesn't take much, as you know, good

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Speaker 1: or bad. Right, I'm really you are a fifteen win team,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, So as as much as you'd like to

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Speaker 1: like to hang on to that fifteen win season and

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Speaker 1: all the stuff that was good about it last year,

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Speaker 1: you are hanging onto a ton of offensive skill position players.

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Speaker 1: But your offensive line right now is in tatters. If

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Speaker 1: you take those guys out, your whole right side's gone,

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Speaker 1: the right guard, right tackles gone, your left guard was

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Speaker 1: out for the season, and the two guys that backed up,

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Speaker 1: the guards are gone or free agents, Yeah you got

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Speaker 1: you got Dion Dawkins, Mitch Morse and Cody Ford coming

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Speaker 1: back off a catastrophic knee injury. That's your offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And that ain't enough. Yeah, this just oh, it's not um,

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Speaker 1: which is why Steve and I have been big proponents

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Speaker 1: of bolstering both lines for that matter, and next season.

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Speaker 1: I just say this, let me vent before he hit

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Speaker 1: a break. Anytime you see a mock draft, and I

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Speaker 1: may be wrong, I first to admit it, but right now,

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Speaker 1: sitting here today, Brownie, the Bills ain't taken a running

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Speaker 1: back to fix their running game. No, they got no

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Speaker 1: offensive line. Well, I'm I've never been a fan of

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Speaker 1: mock drafts. This timing here anyway, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: you can accurately point players before all these teams. All

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Speaker 1: these teams are gonna address their roster and free agents,

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Speaker 1: Na Harris, Naji Harris. If until they get an offensive

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Speaker 1: line that they're going, hey, wow, that's pretty good. They're

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Speaker 1: not even gonna think about taking a guy another guy

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Speaker 1: to hand the ball off, certainly not in the first round,

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Speaker 1: not Nagi Harris or at n those. No, they may

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Speaker 1: take an offensive tackle or a guard before they do that, right,

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Speaker 1: that's I think that is significantly. I would bet a

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Speaker 1: mortgage payment on that. Okay, wow, but look at that

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Speaker 1: bunny where your mouth is. I just refined, So it's

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Speaker 1: not that much. I'm telling you. It's yeah, these mock

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Speaker 1: don't listen to them, don't fall into that brownie, and

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Speaker 1: I've been tooting that horn. I'll continue to do it.

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Speaker 1: It's the offensive line makes that running game, guy, and

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Speaker 1: I don't pay attention to these mock rafters. Still, after

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Speaker 1: free agency has calmed down and these teams have addressed

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Speaker 1: a lot of those holes already, a lot of these

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Speaker 1: mock picks are going to be addressed by some of

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Speaker 1: these teams with free agent players Zach Moss and Devin

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Speaker 1: Singletary or better than just good enough, just that they're

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Speaker 1: better than. And Antonio Williams he's gonna come back with

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Speaker 1: a vengeance, Christian Way. Give the guys a chance. I

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Speaker 1: don't care what one of three of those guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna be here. I wouldn't say t J. Yelden's probably

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Speaker 1: unless he gets a big probably not unless he comes

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Speaker 1: back cheap. Yeah, which is fine. Whatever, I trust sign

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Speaker 1: the guys you want. The guys you got are good

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Speaker 1: enough now better than good enough. So uh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: get all the anytime I see any of these guys that, hey,

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Speaker 1: I think the Bills are gonna take at n or

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Speaker 1: they're gonna take Naji Harris because that will completely fix

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Speaker 1: their running team. Are they what are they? What are

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Speaker 1: they looking at? They're just throwing darts. They're dumb throwing darts.

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Speaker 1: It's dumb. Yeah. As Steve mentioned our twitter poll today,

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Speaker 1: which Bill's defensive player needs to have a breakout season

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one? And you can apply any method

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Speaker 1: of thinking to this equation and question. Maybe you're anticipating

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano's not going to be a part of this

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Speaker 1: defense next year if he gets away in free agency.

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Speaker 1: Who would have to pick up some slack who would

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Speaker 1: have to be a breakout player on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. So things to think about, things to

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Speaker 1: ponder here, and feel free to give us an answer

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Speaker 1: either on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live or

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Speaker 1: give us a call eight oh three oh five fifty

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Speaker 1: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty open line

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Speaker 1: for you there, and we'll be taking your calls and

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Speaker 1: checking out the tweet sheet when we return here on

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve task with you. Will get to your comments on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet in just a second. As we're asking

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Speaker 1: you which Bills defensive player needs to have a breakout

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Speaker 1: season in twenty twenty one. Justin Schmiegel as the guy

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Speaker 1: that said the only acceptable answer here is jj wat

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Speaker 1: this guy that's not even under roster. That was great,

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Speaker 1: So we'll get to more of those entertaining responses shortly.

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Speaker 1: We quickly wanted to go over the latest installment of

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Speaker 1: a highlight video on Buffalo bills dot com. We kind

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Speaker 1: of had our fun with the top five Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: plays that they put up from twenty twenty. Their latest

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Speaker 1: installment is the top five Stefan Diggs plays in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: And I will read the top five and you can

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Speaker 1: picture these probably pretty well in your mind. Number five

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Speaker 1: was the touchdown against the Cardinals right before the Hail Mary,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was a high degree of difficulty. I

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Speaker 1: would have put that a little higher on the list.

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Speaker 1: I know it didn't win the game, but it was

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Speaker 1: poised to his diving sliding touchdown against the Patriots. I'm

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Speaker 1: presuming no, no, no, this was the fifty five yard

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Speaker 1: or no, no, no, that's not You're right, it was

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Speaker 1: the That was the one in week sixteenth up in

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Speaker 1: New England where he slid kind of on his backside

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Speaker 1: towards the side of the end zone there and caught

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Speaker 1: that pass, which was a good one too. His leaping

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Speaker 1: grab against the Raiders on the deep post, which could

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Speaker 1: have been a touchdown if if Josh led him out

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Speaker 1: in front a little bit better because he had the

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Speaker 1: guy beat by a mile and he had to come

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Speaker 1: back to the middle of the field where the ball

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Speaker 1: kind of tailed on Josh on the throw um. And

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Speaker 1: that's when he was like pumping his arms after he

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Speaker 1: made the kid. Pushing and shoving going on after that one.

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Speaker 1: Then the long touchdown against the Patriots crossing route where

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Speaker 1: he turned up the field stumbled est he crossed the

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Speaker 1: goal line. That was a good looking back. That might

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Speaker 1: have been a better throw by Josh than a catch

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Speaker 1: and run by it because he waited to the second window.

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Speaker 1: That was good though, man, it was a good play

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Speaker 1: that was. That was a good play, little shimmy shake.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to go deep to Gabe Davis on the

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Speaker 1: other side. He pumped, faked the post and then came

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Speaker 1: back in the second window to Steph and man, that

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Speaker 1: was money. Yeah. That was a good one, but a

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Speaker 1: good one. But the number one one on the list

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Speaker 1: was his touchdown against the Colts, which was what three

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Speaker 1: four yards or something or thirty four yards or it

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Speaker 1: was that one. Yeah, I was down the forest. I

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Speaker 1: was really I think I'm thinking of the one that

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Speaker 1: he got against uh, the Ravens. That was the short touchdown. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's right, A little quick yeah, it was like yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he dropped back, looks looks left, looks like, comes back late, right,

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Speaker 1: hits right on the first front third at the end.

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Speaker 1: And that was not a big window either, because he

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Speaker 1: dropped it right over the shoulder the second touchdown and

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Speaker 1: that was that was pretty good. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's number one for me, um. I guess they're going

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Speaker 1: with the significance of the scoring play in a playoff victory.

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Speaker 1: I get it, so I get I get that. I

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Speaker 1: get it that way. There's a lot of different ways

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Speaker 1: you can slice it first playoff win in twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: I get it. It's a good one. Um. As you mentioned, though, Steve,

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Speaker 1: one that could not make this list because of its

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Speaker 1: lack of availability was his first touchdown as a bill

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Speaker 1: in Miami Week two, which, as we all know, the

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Speaker 1: feed to the game went out. Steve remembers it vividly

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Speaker 1: because I was watching. We had a feed. The radio

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Speaker 1: broadcast was still up only because we were sitting in

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00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: here at Buffalo, right the feed from the trucks at

642
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: the game was still getting fed to us, but it

643
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: wasn't being broadcast right. And that was also the game

644
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: where they were out for like four or five minutes maybe,

645
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: and then they also had a right they had the

646
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: rain delay right after halftime or so the lightning delay.

647
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: So it was a game that like took nine hours

648
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: to play. And Steph Diggs caught a touchdown in that game.

649
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: Nobody saw that he punted into the stands, and you know,

650
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: it became kind of a joke, and our social media

651
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: team actually had fun with it. They did, Yeah, that

652
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: was pencil drawing and they have a little twenty two

653
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: yards in the bottom. It was great. Yeah, that's so good.

654
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: That was congrats to Anna Stoltzenburg, the media direct artistic

655
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: genius that was that was really good, but that we

656
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: had you think about all the stuff and even subsequently

657
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: how it went for Steph Diggs when they got here.

658
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean, how great us that we all missed the

659
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: first touchdown. Everybody's like, nah, yeah, I mean they were

660
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: certainly happy about it, but they're like, how come I

661
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: can't say it. I'm just glad I could. Yeah, we

662
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: could call it. So yeah, those and then is there

663
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: any other play that you can think of off top?

664
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: Try and tell you something. The underrated play of the

665
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: season was the play in Arizona because of the drive

666
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: that took place before it, and then Josh hits him

667
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: on that corner route at the corner run against man

668
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: to man against Patrick Peterson and he strums him. What

669
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: a what a throw and catch. I think his touchdown

670
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: against the Rams against Jalen Ramsey was the only touchdown

671
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: I think Ramsey gave up all season. Yeah, that was

672
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: a tight throw. The other touchdown against the Pages that

673
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: we're talking about was the one with Josh rolled out

674
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: to his left left, fift his hips and gunned it

675
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: to the back of the ends. On the Monday Night

676
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: because a Monday Night game in New England. That Monday

677
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: Night crew, Mike Terico's making the call and the Lewis

678
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: wow because you can tell it gave him tingles when

679
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: Josh made that play and digs runs and gets it

680
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: that stuff like that. I love. That was a great play. Um.

681
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: And then yeah, he rolling to his leftover. Yeah, we're

682
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: watching the play for the MSG viewers and he kind

683
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: of chows it over there. Then on the Monday Night call,

684
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: you could hear Lewis Riddy going, oh my gosh, with

685
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: that that throw, he flips his hips, he's sprinting to

686
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: his left towards the sidelines, turns around one hundred and

687
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: eighty degrees, faces the right sideline, guns it and digs

688
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: parallel to the ground three feet high, catches that thing

689
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: on a rope and pulls it in. It was Yeah,

690
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. Yeah that was I told you

691
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: that's my favorite game of the year. I love the

692
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: playoff wins, but I didn't. I was a sponge for that. Yeah.

693
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: I soaked it all we had. We couldn't to run

694
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: me out. I couldn't have soaked up enough of it.

695
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: We I told we had Kyle Brandt on. That was

696
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: when Bill Belichick slammed the phone. Bills fans were highlight

697
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: of my season. The Bills mafia was shoving that into

698
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: their face like chocolate pudding. It was so good. That

699
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: was That game was like cookie monster delicious. It was

700
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: so good that Oh my gosh, that was just oh

701
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: that was good. And then after the game, Bill Belichick

702
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: goes up and to Sean McDermott and just looks into

703
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: his eyes like he was his long lost pal. You know,

704
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they were like, oh, newfound respect. You were. Um.

705
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: They strummed that team that night, and man, did it

706
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: feel good. You're right, that was seventeen years of going

707
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: without a drink in the desert. Yeah. And then just

708
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't soak up snuff. I told you, I mean,

709
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: you couldn't have rung me out because I had more

710
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: to soak up, more to soak up. I watched the

711
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: post game everything. I mean, I was working, but I

712
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: was still watching it. Oh my god, look at Bill's

713
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: just walking on him and hugging him and saying, oh,

714
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was just watching that. Um so quickly

715
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 1: here because we only have a couple of minutes before

716
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: the break, jj Watt continues to toy with the social

717
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: media universe. The other day he was asked, Hey, you

718
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: pick a team yet, and he was joking how he

719
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: takes him over an hour just to pick what restaurant

720
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: he wants to order in from, and then it's going

721
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: to take him some time to pick his new team.

722
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: His latest one is and man, this is cryptic, but

723
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: he just sends out on his Twitter account mitochondria is

724
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: the powerhouse of the cell, which brings us back to

725
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: our science classes when you know your science teacher told you,

726
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: I think it would be biology. How the mitochondria is

727
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: the powerhouse of the cell. But people immediately decided they

728
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: were super sleuths and felt that this was going to

729
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: be a peek into jj Watt's free agent thinking, and

730
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: so they come up with their own ideas as to

731
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: what job what jj Watt was getting in, so they've

732
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: so Among the things that were read into this, Jeremy

733
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: White from the Morning Show actually said minachondria has the

734
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: same number of letters as Buffalo bills, and then somebody

735
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: else went even further than that. They said they said

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Speaker 1: the Mitochondria Research Center is located in Buffalo jj Watt

737
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: to the Bills and if you look it up, they

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00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: are The Midochondria Research Society is located that the Roswell

739
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: Park Cancer Institute in Buffalo. So so people are just

740
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: jumping to conclusions. There was one guy from who was

741
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: a Lions fan and he said, fun fact, mina Coondria

742
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: is actually the French word from Michigan. I mean it's

743
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: totally not true. But they're just making up whatever they

744
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: think they can make up to convince jj Watt to

745
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: come to their respective team. And on top of that,

746
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: Steve jj Watt got mitochondria trending on Twitter. That's how

747
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: ridiculous it got. Yeah, it's good for him. He's got

748
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: to be just loving it because we tell me he's not.

749
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: Let's love it's it's so good for each of us.

750
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: We all want to be loved right We all want

751
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: to be liked and loved and wanted right now. And

752
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: you talk about Brownie and I talking about the New

753
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: England game in New England Monday night. We're pushing the

754
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: ends like this is like chocolate pudding for JJ because

755
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: everybody wants the guy on their team and he is.

756
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: He is absolutely enjoyed. He will push this to the

757
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: just to the end, just so we can just soak

758
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: it in just for fun, because it is. It's got

759
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: to be a lot of fun for him and his

760
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: family too. I told you I don't know if I

761
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: could not go play football with my brothers. I got

762
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: three older brothers, and JJ is the oldest of the three.

763
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: But I have three older brothers, and if he had

764
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: a chance, I'd go play with all of them. I

765
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: just don't know how they're fixing that cap situation in Pittsburgh.

766
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty ugly. If he could make it, well, he's

767
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: made eighty five million, two so he would have to

768
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: take a discount. What are you gonna pay play for

769
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: him buck and a half a million and a half?

770
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: Like he can't do that is the agent's gonna flip

771
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: play for twelve. He can do it ever he wants.

772
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's the beauty of it. Here's the

773
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: other thing to think about with Pittsburgh quickly, T J.

774
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: Watt is in line for a contract extension. Yeah, so,

775
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: and you have Bud Dupree as a free agent. You

776
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: got to figure out the bend situation. Ask yourself. There's

777
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: a lot of doing Bud Dupree coming off a knee

778
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: or a couple of years of JJ. Yeah, I mean that,

779
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, think about it. Everybody's gonna think about it.

780
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: You do. If you're if you're the Bills and Bud

781
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: Dupree is out there and you say, Bud, you're coming

782
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: off a knee injury. How about playing for this with

783
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: these incentives will give you a one year deal you

784
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: can get back in the free agent market next year

785
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: when the cap bounces back. Yeah, Bills could be thinking

786
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, you'd have to see what the

787
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: the timeline is on his knee because he did it

788
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season, so you know,

789
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: you know it's the seven to nine month rehab. And

790
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: then even then not everybody is the same that give

791
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: the two year deal, Give him two year deal, give

792
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: him that first year. You know what, Right, it's yeah,

793
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: whatever package it up. Let's see what he see. If

794
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: the guy says yes, um, I just can't get to me.

795
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: It seemed like when I heard it was gonna be

796
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: a fore gone conclusion that JJ was gonna play with

797
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: this with his buddies. I just don't know financially how

798
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: they do that. And we can talk to Jeremy Fowler

799
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: about that too, because he covered the Steelers for a while.

800
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: We also primarily his main objective now is to win

801
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: a ring. Yeah, so we'll see what that means in

802
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: terms of dollars. And right, since soon enough, right, the

803
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: Chiefs are in cap trouble. The Bucks, I don't know

804
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: they got well, their Bucks are gonna try to get

805
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett back in the fiend. They that's gonna cost

806
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: a pretty penny and they would probably rather have Shack

807
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: than JJ, yes, although for short term if JJ is

808
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: cheaper um. But yeah, so you're looking at the Chiefs,

809
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: You're looking at the Bucks. You're looking at who is

810
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: the other team in the NFC Championship, The Packers and

811
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: the Bills. Those four teams, you would think, you know,

812
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: what are their shot, what's their shot of getting back?

813
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: And the Packers are shedding salary right now too. I

814
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: mean they had those two cuts over the weekend, Christian

815
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: Kirksey and Rick Wagner the offensive tackle. I mean, they

816
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: got to figure out Davante Adams, who's outplayed his contract

817
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: and only as a year left to twelve million dollars.

818
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: So all these teams have a lot of work to do.

819
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: As we have said, gems are gonna make their money

820
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: this offseason more than ever. But yeah, I think it's

821
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna be completely complicated. Yeah, it's completely complicated for

822
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: those guys. There's no easy path to solving all the

823
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: issues your roster may or may not have, and you're

824
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to choose some alternative courses to get everything done,

825
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: knowing the constraints still have financially break time for us

826
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll try to get to the

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00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: tweet sheet here and take your phone calls. Which Bills

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00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: defensive player needs to have a breakout season in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one. Back in a moment here on One Bill's Line,

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Speaker 1: presented by a Lot of Health, It's buffal Bill's Radio.

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00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live here on this Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, putting a bow on

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Speaker 1: our number one of the show here till three, and

834
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: time to get to the tweet sheet where we're asking

835
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: you which Bill's defensive player needs to have a breakout

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00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: season in twenty twenty one. Tweet sheet brought to you

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00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and Tiffany says, this is tough to answer.

839
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that players on the roster right now.

840
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: I believe we need a disruptive defensive end in a

841
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: solid corner to pair with Trey. I have to assume

842
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: they will look to add a cornerback, either through free

843
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: agency or the draft. I don't see Josh Norman returning

844
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: next year, so her breakout player is a player that's

845
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: not even here yet. It's either a second corner or

846
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: a disruptive defensive end. So as much as you joked

847
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: about the JJ Watt tweet, that guy's not alone, right

848
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: ye Oh, I get it. And if even if it's

849
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: not jj Watt, it's you know, Shack Barrett, it's what

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00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: you know, you name it, it's Quinnin Williams, Um, it's

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00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: somebody else. So they there's no question, um and I

852
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: know this. People are getting caught up in the in

853
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: their discontent with the past rush last year, and they're

854
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: discontent with the run defense from the first half of

855
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: the season last year, and they're getting caught up that

856
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna fix that right away no matter what. They're

857
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna completely refurbish the defensive line I don't know if

858
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: that's the case. It may come back intact with the

859
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: addition of Starlot Lelay. What they have to do, without

860
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: question is rebuild an offensive line that was pretty effective

861
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: in protecting Josh Allen. Maybe not in the run game.

862
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: But they've got to do that because they got nobody left.

863
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: They have the guys that were the roster on the

864
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: offensive line. Their contracts are up. Either Bucker as are

865
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: restricted or the four guys is unrestricted. Yeah, winners, Butcker Williams,

866
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: Feliciano and and Cody and and Secky and Cody Ford's

867
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: coming back from a from an injury. They got Mitch Morse,

868
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: and they have Dion Dawkins from their starting five, and

869
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: Cody Ford coming off a bad injury. And it's not

870
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: it's not enough. So you may have all these designs

871
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: on they're gonna do this. They have. They got worse

872
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: problems on their offensive line right now. Now. They may

873
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: get them fixed in free agency and they may resign

874
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: something that but that's job one. Yeah, that's job one.

875
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: They can't even think about drafting or running were two

876
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: running back. We're two years removed from getting a stark

877
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: reminder on a weekly basis that your offense goes nowhere

878
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: without an offensive line that can control the line of scrimmage.

879
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: We watched it week after week after week after week

880
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: in the twenty eighteen season, and it was rough, I

881
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: mean tough sledding, and Josh in all calfs. Think about

882
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: where Josh was two years ago, and they were struggling,

883
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: and they took a volume approach to improving the offensive line,

884
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: and they got better, and they got better, and then

885
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: they tweaked it a little bit coming into twenty twenty,

886
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: and I think it was better from a pass blocking perspective,

887
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: but there was something missing when they had to run

888
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: the football. And now the task becomes how much do

889
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: you change it? How much do you keep the same?

890
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: Do you chalk up the struggles to a myriad of

891
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: injuries that seemed to happen one after another. You get

892
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: one guy back, you lose another guy, You get another

893
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: guy back, This guy's out of the lineup, this guy's

894
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: not going to be there at the start of the season.

895
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: You get him back, this guy's out. They never really

896
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: felt like they had their true starting five. So do

897
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: they chalk up the deficiencies or the shortcomings to injury

898
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: or do they say there is a performance related issue here.

899
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: We have to change the mix a little bit. That'll

900
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: be what we're all keeping our eyes on as this

901
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: team gets closer to free agency with the rest of

902
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: the league to see what degree of change they believe

903
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: has to be undertaken to make it better. From mister

904
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: sand Marine Man, Tremaine Edmonds is his answer. Many fans,

905
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: including myself, are on the edge about him. Amazing physical attributes,

906
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: questionable decision making can cause him to be in the

907
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: wrong place at the wrong time. So he picks Tremaine

908
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: Edmonds as a defensive player that needs to have a

909
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: breakout season in twenty twenty one. And if you lose Milano,

910
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to pick up at least some of

911
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: that slack being the being the incumbent at his position

912
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: to help whoever the new guy is that lines up

913
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: next to him. And yeah, because that's a big role. Yeah,

914
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: Milano's role mentally wasn't as isn't as big as Edmund's role.

915
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: Makes the calls, makes the checks the line, make sure

916
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: that the coverage matches the front, all of that stuff.

917
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: It's a huge role that Edmonds has to fill and

918
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: he does. He does a really nice job. He was

919
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: voted to the Pro Bowl this year. And there's got

920
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: to be a consensus out there, probably around football that

921
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: a guy like Milano, as much as people love him

922
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: and as much as many splash plays as the guy's made,

923
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: and as much as as much he shows up, when

924
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: you watch these games, even as a casual viewer, you

925
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: get this idea that man, he's going to be impossible

926
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: to replace. And certainly the Bills struggled to do that

927
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: with a J. Klein h in the beginning of this

928
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: seat in the you know, during that eight game stretch

929
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: when Klein had to go in there. But it got

930
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: better as it went along. And I think you can

931
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: bet that the Bills have got a plan for that,

932
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: even in the current situation with the roster they got

933
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: all these guys leaving. There's probably guys on the roster

934
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: here now like del Sean Phillips and these Goes Dodson,

935
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: those guys who they probably feel like, you know, we

936
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: can do this with him. He may not be Matt Milano,

937
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: but he does give us something. They've probably got a

938
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: plan for that even as we speak that if they're

939
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: planning on losing Milana, which I think I don't want

940
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: to say it's a foregone conclusion, but I just think

941
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: there's a big feeling that Matt Milano, as much as

942
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: we love him, may be easier to replace than any

943
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: of the guys you're talking about in other spots, just

944
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: because he's a he's an he's an undersized linebacker who

945
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: can really run and has a great instinct. As cool

946
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: as that is, I think there's a lot of guys

947
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, you know what, they're maybe unproven, maybe

948
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: their draft picks, rookies, whatever, But there's a lot of

949
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: guys out there with great football instincts who are athletes,

950
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: and they're who are big enough, like Milano is big enough.

951
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: I think that's where we we're sitting with Milano. That's

952
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: a for a guy who who, from what I'm saying now,

953
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: is replaceable. Hard to pay a guy like that fifteen

954
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: million bucks. But you look at a guy like Zaven

955
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: Collins at a Tulsa who's expected to be, you know,

956
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: kind of a late first round pick. I don't think

957
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: the kid from Notre Dame gets to the Bills at thirty.

958
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: Were those guys are that high in the draft because

959
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: they're even better athletically than Mamelana would have been. Yeah,

960
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: because he's a fifth rounder, right, even if he has

961
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: taken even if he fell to the fifth, from the

962
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: third or the fourth, he's not the athlete those two

963
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: guys you just mentioned are. Because that's what it is.

964
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: I mean, the draft isn't is an athletic point. Yeah,

965
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: the point is there are some studs, yes, at there

966
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: are a lot more guys running around that are six three,

967
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: two thirty who can run and who can run. Then

968
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: there are right tackles, as we've talked about on the show,

969
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: that can replace Daryl Williams, who can do the kickstep.

970
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah you know. Yeah, that's so that's where we're at. Yeah,

971
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of anxiously Milan is gonna end up

972
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins or something. Oh God, you're killing me.

973
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: Just stick the knife in and start twisting. He has

974
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: been in these teams. Patriots will love to get their

975
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: hands on that game. Yeah, with all those guys coming

976
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: back on their defense after opting out, Yeah, that would

977
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: be painful. If he's somewhere in this division. Jets need

978
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: a lot of defensive help too. I don't want to digress,

979
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, does it? Can it be any fun to

980
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 1: play in New England? We got all those guys. Number

981
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: one Defense just said, you know what, I'm gonna be

982
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,479
Speaker 1: like studying for a test, and every day it's gonna

983
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: be like studying for the SATs every single day a

984
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: year off. Yeah, so then it's perfect. Then he canna

985
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: do it. Forced Gronk to retire at age thirty. All right,

986
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: break time for us. Our number two of the show

987
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: coming up, and we'll be taking your phone calls then,

988
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: so get on board eight oh three oh five fifty.

989
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: Which Bills defensive player needs to have a breakout season

990
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Steve and I back in a

991
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: moment here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kaloid of Health,

992
00:53:53,560 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network. Sports Update,

993
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: Your sports update from One Bill's Drive. The Sabers fell

994
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: to the Islanders last nine, three to two. Curtis Lazar

995
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: and Sam Reinhardt scored for Buffalo. Sabers are now ohin

996
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: three against the Aisles this season. Jeff Skinner a healthy

997
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: scratch last night, but expected to return to the lineup

998
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: tonight when the Sabers face off in New Jersey against

999
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: the Devils, their third game in four days. Today marks

1000
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: the opening of the Franchise and Transition tag window, which

1001
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: means we're in the final stages as teams prepare for

1002
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: the new league year and the start of free agency

1003
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 1: on St. Patrick's Day. The tag window runs today through

1004
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: March ninth. The Bills are not expected to use a

1005
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: tag designation. Per Mark Maski at the Washington Post, the

1006
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: NFL is looking at a schedule involving a seventeen game

1007
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: regular season and a reduction of four preseason games to

1008
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: three for twenty twenty one and beyond. This would be

1009
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: the second significant change to the NFL schedule in as

1010
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: many years, as twenty twenty resulted in an expansion of

1011
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: the postseason from twelve to fourteen teams. Current NFL CBA

1012
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: states the owners can add a seventeenth game to the

1013
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: regular season as soon as this year. NFL Network reporting

1014
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: that one third of the league is called seattle about

1015
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: the possibility of a Russell Wilson trade, and that those

1016
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: teams have come away with the belief that the starting

1017
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: point for any serious conversations would be three first round

1018
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: draft picks. Trading Wilson would require the Seahawks to take

1019
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: thirty nine million of dead money onto their cap, although

1020
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: waiting to process a trade until after June first would

1021
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: allow them to push twenty six million of it into

1022
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season. I don't see it happened first.

1023
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: It was DeShawn Jackson. Now the Eagles world release feder

1024
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: and receiver al Shan Jeffrey when the new league year

1025
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: begins in March. Jeffrey had spent the previous four seasons

1026
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: with the Eagles, while Jackson was with the team for

1027
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: the previous two seasons after spending the first six of

1028
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: his career with Philly and Mike Tomlin confirmed on Monday

1029
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: he has contracted COVID nineteen. The forty eight year old

1030
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers head coach responded to earlier reports of his

1031
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: diagnosis in a tweet. He wrote that he is in

1032
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: good health and that his symptoms are minimal. That is

1033
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 1: your sports update from one Bill's Drive. Chris Brown. Steve

1034
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 1: Tasker here with you for the second hour of the program,

1035
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: and Steve, I gotta find it here somewhere, and it's

1036
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: gonna take me a minute, so we'll get to it.

1037
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: When I can. But there was a one hundred five

1038
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: year old woman in a nursing home who contracted COVID

1039
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: like the day after a one hundred fifth birthday and

1040
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: beat it. And so they asked her what is the

1041
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: secret to a long life? And she said, stay away

1042
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: from junk food. But she would eat nine gin soaked

1043
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: raisins every day, raisins soaked in gin. Yeah it's nine raisins.

1044
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: That's not even a tablespoon. Oh man, gin soaked raisins.

1045
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: She counted them. Oh yeah, every day. I named my

1046
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: raisins and my gin. I don't want to be morbid,

1047
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: but if I have to eat nine gin soaked raisins

1048
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: at one hundred and five, what am I gonna look like?

1049
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: What's my quality of life going to be like when

1050
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred and five? Yeah, that's why I don't

1051
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: know if I want to get it. Might yet, it

1052
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: might be it might be better for me if I

1053
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: just pushed the gas right now and just get it,

1054
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, just whatever happens happens. Yeah. So the woman's

1055
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: name this was in the New York Times. Lucia to Clerk,

1056
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: the oldest resident of a New Jersey nursing home beat

1057
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: coronavirus after she tested positive on her one hundred and

1058
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: fifth birthday. Tested positive on her birthday. What are you

1059
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: thinking at one oh five and you get yes, happy birthday,

1060
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: you've contracted Covidor aren't you thinking like, all right, well,

1061
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: I guess this is the end. I got to one

1062
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: oh five. Yes, like, you know what, this world's been

1063
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: trying to kill me for over one hundred years. Take

1064
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: your best shot right. Her tips for living a long

1065
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: and healthy life prayer, avoiding junk food, and eating nine

1066
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: gin soaked raisins each morning. God, I love that. That's fantastic.

1067
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: That's like, say, that's like, oh man, don't eat junk food,

1068
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: but make sure you get that one load of fries

1069
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: every you know, every everything in moderation. And I'm just

1070
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna tell you good for her. Lucia to clerk is

1071
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: from the right end to the gene pool. That's how

1072
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: she's one hundred and five. Yeah, say whatever you go

1073
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: on about junk food and this, that and the other. Yeah,

1074
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, I got a neighbor who's got a dad

1075
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: who's like eighty eight, had two knee replacements and he

1076
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: still mows his own lawn. And he's got a grandfather

1077
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: who's like one hundred and ten who just moved out

1078
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: of his walk up apartment that was on a second floor.

1079
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: Ten ridiculous. Listen, let me tell you something. It's gonna

1080
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: get crazy. You and I may live a long time

1081
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: despite I don't come from the deep end of the

1082
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: gene pool. But you know what, technology's gonna help us.

1083
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a buy on. My mom and dad

1084
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: are ninety. Yeah, that's and they're they're planning. They got

1085
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: vaccinated on now they're planning to come up and visit

1086
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: all the great grandchildren. Yeah, you know, and I got

1087
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: my older brother is sixty five. Yeah, and I all right, nothing,

1088
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: he's killing He can't kill me, my brother. He's gonna

1089
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: kill me for saying this. So he called and he goes.

1090
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: He goes, I go, hey, how you doing it? Because

1091
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: we're kind of playing my mom and dad to visit. Yeah,

1092
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: how you doing? He goes. I'm in a lot of

1093
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm in intense pain. I am hurting bad. I go, what,

1094
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: bro what happened? He goes. He goes on, I went

1095
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: to the doctor and got some X rays and I go, yeah, yeah,

1096
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: he goes, it's just really hurt. I go, what happened?

1097
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: He goes, well, I he didn't want to tell me.

1098
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm embarrassed. I go, what happened? How'd you

1099
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: do it? He goes, I got up? He was I

1100
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: was sleeping in bed. I cocked up, got a one

1101
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: elbow to turn over in bed, and it felt it

1102
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: sounded like I was ripping the sheets. My broke two

1103
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: ribs and tore cartlage just from turning over. And are

1104
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: you kidding me? That makes me feel better about my story.

1105
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: I was laughing at my brother. At least I wiped

1106
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: out on a stair. He's so old. I couldn't believe it.

1107
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: He goes. I go, he goes, yeah, he goes. I

1108
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: went to the doctrine. He goes. Listen, he goes, I've

1109
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: been in the doctor said, I've done this for years.

1110
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: I've never heard of anything like that. Two times in

1111
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, I had somebody you're the

1112
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: second one. Somebody else broke a rib turning over in bed. Man,

1113
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: bro that's bad. He needs now got to take some

1114
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: Vitahim and my brothers. In my brother's defense, what does

1115
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: he sleep on him. Rick, he was. He was a

1116
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: hard liver, so it's coming back to haunt him. But man,

1117
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: oh man, I was, and you can. Yeah, brother can

1118
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: do that. Like I don't have to take I don't

1119
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: have to feel bad for him. Come on, bro, suck

1120
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: it up. Tell him to start taking some Vitamin D

1121
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: pills for bone. Hell, that's what I did. I said,

1122
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: you drink some calci, you know, some calcium or something

1123
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: they have. They have those Vitamin D pills that'll help

1124
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: invitus in vitamin didn't it's calcium for your bones, right. Yeah,

1125
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: he broke two ribs turning over in bed. That is, dude,

1126
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: get a new mattress. Uh. We are talking Bill's defensive

1127
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: player that needs to have a breakout season in twenty

1128
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: twenty one. If you want to jump up on board,

1129
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: we got an open line for you at eight oh

1130
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: three five fifty one eighty two five fifty. Some of

1131
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: the early answers a disruptive defensive end who isn't even

1132
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: here yet. Some people name somebody using the JJ Watt moniker.

1133
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: Some others said Tremaine Edmonds. Here's a new one from

1134
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: Jack though ed Oliver the number nine pick. He has

1135
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: talent and speed to be a force as a slashing penetrator,

1136
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: he must force more pressures and tackles for loss. He's

1137
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: had flashes and has been better against the run than

1138
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: he gets credit for, but in year three he must

1139
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: take the next step and consistently show the elite traits

1140
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: that got him picked. There's argue hard to argue with that.

1141
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: And having a guy like Ed at that spot down

1142
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: inside as a three technique down on the guards, being

1143
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: able to do that really really is a disruptive force

1144
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: because now you've got you know, your edge rushing passers,

1145
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: you're both tackles, and you know, have another guy, a

1146
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: guy like that coming from the inside really really puts

1147
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: an offense in a bind because it's hard to help him,

1148
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You can't really give him

1149
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: any help because you're gonna you know, you're gonna chip

1150
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: the guys on the outside if you do, if you

1151
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: have one of those guys, but on a guy on

1152
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: the inside, you know, the center can do something, but

1153
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: the tackle can't help him. Tackles busy. So yeah, you

1154
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: get you get exponential benefit from a guy who can

1155
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: really go from the interior. And that and if Ed

1156
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: Oliver can become that guy. You're right, I think the

1157
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 1: team becomes exponentially better. Yeah, because if you're gonna double

1158
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: him to neutralize him. How you can't double guys on

1159
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: the edge, now, you right, unless you're chipping or doing

1160
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: something else. And now on the route, your coverage is better.

1161
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: The center's got to slide to the guard to help him. Um, yeah,

1162
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: or you gotta do something creative with your back or

1163
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: a tight end to come in and help. You know,

1164
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: you got to step the backup into the inside gap

1165
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: of the guard or the guard tackle guard center guard

1166
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: tackle to help out. Yeah. It puts him in a bind.

1167
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: Puts him in a bind. From JT on the tweet sheet,

1168
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: Epinessa needs to have a breakout season to show what

1169
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: he can really bring. Leslie Frasier liked him for his

1170
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: speed to get around the edge to the passer. Well,

1171
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's exactly what he liked. That's

1172
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: why he was drafted. But now I think he needs

1173
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: to put on a little more weight. He lost too

1174
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: much last season. Kid has potential. They did ask him

1175
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: to lose some weight coming in this year because he

1176
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: was up around two eighty at Iowa eighty two eighty

1177
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: five at Iowa, and they wanted him I think more

1178
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: down around two sixty five to seventy and then he

1179
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: got here and he was like two fifty five to

1180
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: sixty yea, and he wasn't strong enough to hold up

1181
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 1: in the run. And that's why he did not see

1182
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps in the first half of the

1183
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: season as they tried to help him get his body right.

1184
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: So it was a ketchup. He was in ketchup mode.

1185
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: He got better, and it's it is tough too because

1186
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: a guy a particularly a guy like Epineszen and then

1187
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 1: at Oliver and guys who were taking high in the draft,

1188
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: you take him because their physical traits. Epinezza has got

1189
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: some length. He is a long dude. He's tall, god reach,

1190
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: and he plays with good leverage as well, particularly in

1191
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: the run on the edge. But you know when you're

1192
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: when you come in and the club you're playing for,

1193
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: I ask you to say, hey, listen, we need you

1194
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: to drop twenty. It's an adjustment that sometimes is hard

1195
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: because you can't play with the same strength and and

1196
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: you can play with the same leverage but not the

1197
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: same strength. Your your quickness is better, but your ability

1198
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: to hold up is a little lessoned and for whatever

1199
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: benefits you get from it, there are there's the counterbalance

1200
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: to that, and so I think it was a big

1201
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: adjustment for for Aj, not only in that, but also

1202
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: then too, He's just trying to learn how to be

1203
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: a pro at the same time, he's like, how do

1204
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: I do this pro thing weekend week out? And going

1205
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: through the adjustment to his own body and then learning

1206
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: how to play in this defense at a level he's

1207
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: never played at before during a pandemic. Is a lot

1208
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: on his plate that probably hindered his progress. Now I

1209
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: may be wrong, Maybe they think they know he's reached

1210
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: his potential. I kind of doubt it, but I think

1211
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: that all that stuff thrown in, you got to give

1212
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: the guy a regular off season and a great training

1213
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: camp and the right weight from the get go full

1214
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: off season and an NFL strengthen positioning program will help him.

1215
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: And I think that'll help him to take a step

1216
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: forward in his year two. Now at Oliver, it's year

1217
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: three for him time. This is go time. It's go

1218
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: time for him, which is exactly what Kevin says ed

1219
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: Oliver needs to turn in a breakout year. He's the

1220
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: first round pick that hasn't lived up to it yet.

1221
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: Hopefully with starback it will help Oliver and his development.

1222
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: Side note, we need to cut Addison, Jefferson, Butler, and

1223
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: John Brown and bring in Watt and also bring back Mulano.

1224
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: So there's somebody who's looking to make some wholesale changes

1225
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of them. I don't necessarily believes

1226
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: that's aggressive, so it is. I don't necessarily you believe

1227
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: you cut four people to bring in two, um because

1228
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: why you bring in two guys that'll that'll help you

1229
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: in and play well for you, you still got to

1230
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: replace the other two guys on the roster and what

1231
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: are you gonna do that with? And those guys are

1232
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: gonna have to contribute, And yeah, I just I know

1233
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: the math may work out at some level. I doubt

1234
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: you can get J. J. Watt to sign inside those

1235
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: in the inside those lines. Yeah, Addison, Butler, Jefferson, John Brown.

1236
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't know that four of those guys is enough

1237
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: to sign both JJ and Milano. An interesting thing that

1238
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: might be close, but I don't think it's quite enough.

1239
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: An interesting thing that Jeremy Fowler brought up uh in

1240
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: his ESPN dot com right up, and we'll be talking

1241
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: to Jeremy and just under an hour here in the

1242
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: third hour of the program. Uh, he was wondering if

1243
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: there might be some more trades as teams look to

1244
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: unload players that still have some juice in the tank,

1245
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: but my be cost prohibitive for them in terms of salary,

1246
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, they don't want to restructure those

1247
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: guys or ask them to take a pay cut. And

1248
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: so you wonder or any of those guys trade candidates.

1249
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that they are, but it's certainly something

1250
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: to think about in terms of does any do any

1251
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: of these guys have trade value? And often when you

1252
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: put a guy up in trade talks, they know that

1253
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: there's probably a good chance you're going to cut that

1254
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: player loose anyway. So why are we going to part with,

1255
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, any kind of capital draft or player wise,

1256
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: if we know you're going to release that guy anyway.

1257
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: But it may be just sparks me to think about

1258
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: that a little bit. They may do it because it

1259
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: makes a bunch of financial benefit from them for a

1260
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: quality player that they may not have a chance at

1261
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: because you take over a contract that would be perfect

1262
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: in your cap structure. Say, for instance, like the New

1263
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints, They've got a bunch of great players, but

1264
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: they they're way over the cap. So if they can

1265
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: trade player for player and get the cap relief and

1266
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: get the other team to take on that cap they get,

1267
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: they get a break. Or the player they're looking to

1268
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: move might be a perfect fit in the eyes of

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01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: another team, and they'll say, you know what, instead of

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Speaker 1: having a bid on the open market with five other

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01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: teams through this guy, let's just get him in the

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01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: door now, um, because he is exactly what we need.

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Speaker 1: And um. Yeah, and the and what they give up

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01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: maybe of a benefit a double benefit for them because

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01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 1: of the contracts they're getting rid of or the structure

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01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: of the contracts are getting rid of. Um. But nevertheless, UM,

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Speaker 1: I see the logic in that. I just don't know

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01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: if if that many scenarios where that would be applicable

1279
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Speaker 1: to a lot of teams exist. Yeah, from Bob easy

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01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: jj Watt to show everyone that the Bills made the

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01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: best free agent acquisition of twenty twenty one. Oh, peering

1282
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: into the crystal ball, Bob if jj wat, if they

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01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: could get jj Watt and jj came in and had

1284
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: the kind of season that they got out of a

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01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: player like Steph Diggs. Yeah, well we'll all sign up

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01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: for that. If if they pull this guy out and

1287
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: he comes in and has like a forget about eighteen

1288
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: or twenty sacks seaon just a fifteen sacks season. If

1289
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: he has a like almost a sack of game for

1290
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: the season and makes those disruptive plays worth you know,

1291
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: he pulls the you know, pick six jumping up and

1292
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: knocking to pass down or grabbing it and running it

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01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: back because he's done multiple times. Plays like that give

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01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: him a little something, a little juice in the run game,

1295
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 1: some pursuit, some attention away from Jerry Hughes and Ed Oliver. Absolutely,

1296
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: but it comes down to what JJ really wants, and

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01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: right now, I don't think anybody knows. He certainly says

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Speaker 1: he wants to win a championship. You gotta think that

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Speaker 1: puts Buffalo into that conversation. He's got two brothers that

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01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: play in Pittsburgh. Their cap situation isn't now. He said

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Speaker 1: it was about winning a championship. He didn't say anything

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01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: about money he's made, and he's made a lifetime of

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01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: money already. So if that's secondary. Then all bets are

1304
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 1: off as to where he goes, because it's just he's

1305
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: gonna look in the crystal ball and trying figure out

1306
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: who's gonna get there and if he can help him

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01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, he's got enough money. Now I'm not

1308
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: speaking for him, but if money's not on the table,

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01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: there's like four teams, the two the four teams were

1310
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: in the championship game last year, and San Francisco maybe

1311
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: La maybe who else in terms of who could pay him, yeah,

1312
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: or who he wants to go to to win a championship. Yeah,

1313
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: the Baltimore maybe, Yeah. And you don't know, you might,

1314
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: I mean, there might be a team that probably felt

1315
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,959
Speaker 1: they were a little unlucky last year. Whether it's Tennessee

1316
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 1: or somebody like that, I don't know, right, and he

1317
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: might see them as you know, Green Bay. You know,

1318
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: they've been in the NFC title game each of the

1319
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: last two years. Maybe he's you know, he's the Milwaukee guy. Yeah,

1320
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, I don't know. You it'll be

1321
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: interesting to see how he whittles this list down. If

1322
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: winning is truly the number one priority at this point

1323
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: in time, you have to believe that his agents have

1324
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: already put feelers out to see who might have genuine interest,

1325
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: what they'd be willing to pay. They're trying to get

1326
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: a feel for his market. Is it gonna be a

1327
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: window where And because there's a lot in the mix here,

1328
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought, we thought right away that

1329
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: he would get signed real quickly because they don't want

1330
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: to get to free agency. And then he's competing with

1331
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: other people. Right, he's got the play of the market

1332
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: right now. However, only just now do they find out

1333
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: what the cap was going to be here in the ballpark.

1334
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: So now Pete teams are like, okay, now what do

1335
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: we got to work with? And I wonder if some

1336
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: of the delay too, is predicated on the fact that, yeah,

1337
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: there's some teams that are interested, but they might only

1338
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: be interested for one year. And what might be saying,

1339
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: I kind of want two years here, or at least

1340
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: a year with a lot of well maybe with an

1341
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: option for a second, but a lot of guaranteed money

1342
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: up front, right, And teams might not be interested in

1343
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: doing that because of the restricted cap. But we're not

1344
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: going to dump all this money into this year when

1345
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: we're tight as it is, right, Um, I think and

1346
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: what happens if he does get to free agency, because

1347
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: in a market that's flooded, you don't people might don't

1348
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: gettable options that don't look like much of a difference, right,

1349
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: And if and here's the thing, you can say, well,

1350
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: we didn't get a chance that we couldn't afford JJ,

1351
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 1: or you know, the teams don't aren't in a position

1352
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: where they've got to sell that, like where we were

1353
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: never gonna get JJ. They can always come off with that, right,

1354
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: we were never in the running for JJ. Well, and

1355
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: they also might want to see what else shakes loose

1356
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 1: from the trees here, because there are players under contract

1357
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: now that are going to get clipped. Ye like, not

1358
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: just the tappening everywhere. It's not just the impending free

1359
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: agents to consider. There are guys that are going to

1360
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: get clipped because of bad cap situations. It's where the

1361
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: teams underwater on their contract and they got a high

1362
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: cap number. Yeah, so that's gonna happen without without much

1363
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: dead money. So I think you're wise to wait and

1364
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: see what else shakes loose. But if you like the

1365
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: guy and you think he can make the difference and

1366
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: take you over the top, I think he at least

1367
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: got to start talking to him to see what it

1368
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: would take to land the big fish. So to speed

1369
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: Patrick last one here on the tweet sheet before we

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01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,799
Speaker 1: go to break. Interesting choice here. I think Dane Jackson

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01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: will be the defensive player that needs to step up

1372
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: this season. He's a good open field tackler and defender.

1373
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 1: Not a huge guy in terms of stature, but he

1374
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: plays bigger than he looks. Physical player, doesn't back down

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01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: from anybody, and in the brief time we saw him

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01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: on the field last year as a practice squad call up,

1377
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: it did the game did not look too big for him,

1378
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: and I'm encouraged about what he can bring in year two,

1379
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: which I think will be a lot. Seems to be

1380
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: around the ball, has a knack to be around the ball,

1381
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: so in limited snaps he flashed, and I wonder in

1382
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: a full time role, or at least competing for a

1383
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: potential full time role, I think this kid could quickly

1384
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: be on the ascent more snaps, I expect him to

1385
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: get a whole lot better. So I know I probably

1386
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: like him a little bit more than you do, but

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01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,640
Speaker 1: I think he'll compete next year. But I feel for

1388
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: him because he's you know, he's like my size and

1389
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: he's playing corner and he's a little undersized. That's that's it.

1390
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 1: Other than that he's got he's the guy for me.

1391
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I love the guy. I love his attitude.

1392
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: I love the way he plays. He's got grit, he

1393
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: doesn't shy away from tackling um. He does the you

1394
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: know the stuff nobody likes to do with with you know,

1395
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: some enthusiasm. So I'm I'm all about Dan Jackson. I

1396
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: think you may be right. He may end up being

1397
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: a guy that that does it. And we're talking too

1398
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: about how the Bills have tried to replace that left corner.

1399
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: They try to replace Levi Wallace year after year after year.

1400
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: Today they spent five minut bucks on Josh Norman, four

1401
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: million on Kevin Johnson. Formerly on Kevin Johnson traded him.

1402
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: Jay Gaines has been here. E J. Gaines is still here. Yeah,

1403
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: he's gonna opt back in, I mean his opt out.

1404
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: So they've you know, Dane Jackson may be the next

1405
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: guy that to try it. And Levi Jackson may not

1406
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: be here anyway. Lea Levi by Wallace, Lea By Wallace. Yeah,

1407
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: restricted free agent. So we'll have to see what happens

1408
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: there break time for us, but we'll be back. We're

1409
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 1: gonna dive back into the fan mail bag from Friday.

1410
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 1: We have some leftover questions that we didn't get a

1411
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: chance to answer because the show kind of blew up

1412
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: and went in a different direction. So we'll try to

1413
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 1: answer some of those now that we have some time

1414
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: here when we return on One Bill's Live presented by

1415
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll go back to

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01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Second half of the show underway here

1417
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, Chris Brand, Steve Tasker with you, and

1418
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: we wanted to get back to some of the leftover

1419
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: obl fan mailbag questions on the tweet sheet and we

1420
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: wanted to kind of answer some of those. Our show

1421
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: kind of went sideways on Friday. What happened and well,

1422
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: we just got off on a different topic. As a

1423
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I can't even remember what we were doing,

1424
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: but we were getting phone calls left and right, and

1425
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it was JJ WANT related. I honestly

1426
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: can't remember, Steve, you know, Oh, that's right, it was

1427
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. The Carson Day after the Carson went car.

1428
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: He got traded on Thursday, my last day of the week.

1429
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 1: And dude, these shows blend together. I can't separate one

1430
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: day from the next. Particularly, I know I'm po chire

1431
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: on that, but uh we So we didn't really get

1432
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: a chance to answer too many questions, so we wanted

1433
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: to get back to some of those, try to get

1434
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,879
Speaker 1: all of them answered. And due course, here and Khalil asks,

1435
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 1: do we have a true workhorse back on the roster

1436
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 1: or was our lack of run game based on scheme

1437
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: and O line deficiency? Good question, I'd say yes, yes

1438
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: to the ladder everything. Yeah, don't have a workhorse. I

1439
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 1: think it's not their philosophy to have a workhorse back.

1440
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 1: They don't have an or nor do that. Well, I'm

1441
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: not gonna say that they don't have or want a

1442
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. They they want to do it with a

1443
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: bunch of guys who stay fresh and give you more consistently.

1444
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: That's that's their philosophy. They don't want to spend their

1445
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: money because if Derrick Henry rolls his ankle, you're done, right, Um.

1446
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: They want to have the exact same running game if

1447
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: it's Zack Moss or Devin singletary and if something happens

1448
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: to one of them, the get running game will just

1449
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: keep going. Yea, And right now, I would say that's

1450
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 1: probably where they're at now. Certainly Derrick Henry's is a

1451
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: singular talent, and I'm just making that comparison that they

1452
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: want to you know, they do it differently. They want

1453
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 1: a couple of backs ready and willing to go, so

1454
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:58,560
Speaker 1: I don't think they want a workhorse back. Secondly, I

1455
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 1: do think their scheme, their offensive line's abilities didn't mesh

1456
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: as well as it should have last year could have.

1457
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: They need to run it more effectively. They don't need

1458
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: to run it more, although offensive linemen and other people

1459
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: will say, if you want to run it, well, you

1460
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: got to run it a lot, because that's how it happens.

1461
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: I can I can kind of relate to that a

1462
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 1: little bit in my career, and I'll give you an

1463
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: example of that too. Like Ruben Brown came in and

1464
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: he said, if you want to run it better, you

1465
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: gotta keep running it because that's what will happen. You

1466
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: start to get better at it, and I'll get I'll

1467
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: give you a parallel. You know who year in, year

1468
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: out consistently has the best kickoff return team in the NFL.

1469
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: It's the team that gives up the most points because

1470
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: that kickoff return team gets a lot of reps. They

1471
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: get a lot of reps. That's the same thing with

1472
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing about the run game from guys like

1473
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: Ruben Brown and other guys who are well versed in it. Yeah,

1474
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: to do it good, you gotta do it a lot.

1475
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 1: I think there is an element of schematics to it.

1476
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: The Bills kind of drifted more to an outside zone

1477
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: approach in the second half of the season. They kind

1478
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: of moved away from any kind of gap stuff. And

1479
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that knowing that Zach Moss and Devin

1480
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: Singletary are not explosive runners, you know, they don't get

1481
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: to top speed after one or two steps. You know,

1482
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: they kind of have build up speed, and even then

1483
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: it's not breakaway speed. And if you're running to the edges,

1484
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: even when the safeties are deep, because they respect your

1485
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 1: passing game, they can still flow to the ball because

1486
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: you're running at an angle, not straight at the line

1487
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and into the second level that much quicker.

1488
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: And maybe they didn't feel they could win inside and

1489
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 1: drive people off the line of scrimmage to run inside

1490
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: because of who they had lined up inside. That might

1491
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: be the reason for it, but that might predicate them

1492
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 1: to make changes on their offensive line so they can

1493
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: run straight ahead more effective, knowing that defenses will continue

1494
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: to respect their passing game because you got those two

1495
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 1: safeties deep. I mean, you're talking about a seven man front.

1496
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: You run straight ahead, you gotta win there. Yeah, And

1497
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 1: it may be that they're going to make change to

1498
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,640
Speaker 1: their offensive line out of, you know, be forced to

1499
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: make changes because they've got so many free agents and

1500
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: guys that are loose up there. Darryl Williams and John

1501
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: Feliciano are both question marks, as are Brian Winters and

1502
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: Mike Butker for the guy and Tina Seki five of

1503
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: the eight guys that had on a game day or

1504
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: yeah questions. I wonder about this because we saw an

1505
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: interesting thing kind of unfold from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty.

1506
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, they were bigger, girthier type guys. Quentin

1507
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: Spain was in there on either side of Mitch Morse,

1508
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: who is known, I think primarily as a mobile guy,

1509
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 1: pass blocking type center. And if you're going with him,

1510
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: and I'm totally fine with that. I wonder if there

1511
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: was this thought, at least in twenty nineteen that you

1512
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 1: needed bigger, heavier set players alongside him to drive people

1513
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage so you could run straight ahead. Now,

1514
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: that did compromise their effectiveness in the screen game, because

1515
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: those big guards could not get out and pull, get

1516
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: out in front and set up a convoy for a

1517
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: back on a screenplay. And they decided to make a

1518
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 1: shift there and they went a little bit more athletic. Eventually,

1519
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: not at the start of the season, but Quentin Spain

1520
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 1: was out of a job by week three and never

1521
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: returned to the starting lineup and eventually was released. So

1522
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 1: they made a conscious decision to be primarily a line

1523
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: that would pass block effectively. But I think to a

1524
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: certain extent they might have done it at the cost

1525
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 1: of not being a good straight ahead run team anymore.

1526
01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 1: So you wonder how they have to tweak that here

1527
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: in the offseason, and how effective they are and run

1528
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: or pass collectively is going to depend on who lines

1529
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: up for him in twenty twenty one, and I don't

1530
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: think we have any idea who that's going to be

1531
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 1: outside of Morse and Deon Dawkins. Even Morse, you could

1532
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: throw a little bit of doubt on him because he's

1533
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,520
Speaker 1: been tabbed as one of those guys with a contract

1534
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: that kind of blinks to be restructured or changed, whether

1535
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: he's amenable to that or wants to go out on

1536
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: the free agent market or says you can release me

1537
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 1: or I'm not gonna do it or whatever. Dion Dawkins,

1538
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 1: Mitch Morse or two guys. You can count on Cody

1539
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: Ford coming back, depending on how good he bounces back.

1540
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: But there's a ton of roster spots to be had

1541
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 1: on the Bill's offensive line at this point. They got

1542
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: to fill them. Whether it's Feliciano getting resigned or Darryl

1543
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: Williams getting resigned or neither or both, that'll tell you

1544
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: a lot about where their offensive line is going to be.

1545
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: And if they change those guys out, we have no

1546
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: idea what it's going to look like. Let's go to

1547
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: the phones at eight oh three, five fifty, where we've

1548
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 1: got Steve and Jamestown to lead us off here in

1549
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 1: this segment. Steve, what do you have for us? You're

1550
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: on one bills Live, Yeah, how you guys doing good good.

1551
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: Well this there's well, I'm going back a few years.

1552
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: I know they're talking about, you know, the JJ Watt

1553
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking back, you know, back when when they

1554
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: signed Bryce Pop. I just wonder how much an impact

1555
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: he had on that team, on the Bills team compared

1556
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: and well, I know, if salary caps are all changed

1557
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: up and all that, but and I don't know how

1558
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 1: old he was at the time, So yeah, he definitely

1559
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 1: made an impact. I want to say he was thirty

1560
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: when he came to the Bills in ninety five. Helped

1561
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 1: you guys win that last AFC East title, helped Bruce

1562
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 1: win Defensive Player of the Year, and then he wanted

1563
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: the year and then he won it. Oh yeah, that's right.

1564
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 1: Bruce won it the second time. So the first year

1565
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: that Bryce came here wins Defensive Player of the Year,

1566
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: the next year Bruce won it. Because those two guys

1567
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: opposite each other were a handful. Is that right? I

1568
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: didn't realize they both won it. Yeah. I think they

1569
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: want it back to back years because Bryce came in

1570
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: and nobody was doubling Bryce with Bruce on the other side,

1571
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: and Bryce was crushing people. I mean crushing people. And

1572
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: he came from Green Bay and just he was a

1573
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: great athlete and he's built like an action figure, just

1574
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: like Bruce was. And man, oh Man, teams just decided, listen,

1575
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: we've been like the Dolphins, the Patriots, the Jets. They're like, listen,

1576
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: Bruce has been beating us up for ten years. So

1577
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: that happened anymore. So Bryce pop was only twenty seven

1578
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: years old when he came to the Bills. So came

1579
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: here on a second contract for for pretty good money

1580
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: and one Defensive Player of the Year was seventeen and

1581
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: a half sacks in ninety five. Then in ninety six,

1582
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: the following year he got all the attention, only got

1583
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: six sacks, and then Bruce ended up getting Defensive Player

1584
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: of the Year in ninety six, his last such award,

1585
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: and then in ninety seven he did have nine and

1586
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: a half sacks in his last season. Injuries kind of

1587
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 1: cropped up in ninety six for him, and then there

1588
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: was a groin injury that kept bothering him and then

1589
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: he was kind of slowed him down hard time getting

1590
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: over that. Then he went and played for jackson to Jacksonville. Yeah,

1591
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 1: but he was out of the League by thirty two.

1592
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: You know, JJ Watt is looking to play his tenth

1593
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: season at age thirty two, And he did play sixteen

1594
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: games last year and was the first time in four

1595
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 1: years he's played sixteen. It was this last year, and

1596
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: he did it on a defense that was on the

1597
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: field a lot and he was decimated with had nobody

1598
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 1: helping him. But as you see here, I mean this

1599
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 1: highlight we're looking at, Matt Stafford throws a little swing

1600
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: pass out to the flat. JJ jumps up, grabs it

1601
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: and runs. Any well, that was the thing. Like we

1602
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: had a call yesterday it said, well, you know, I

1603
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: don't know if he's worth it with the with the

1604
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks getting the ball out so quick, how do you

1605
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: know he's gonna get your sacks? And said, well, he

1606
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 1: doesn't need to get your sacks. And I said, did

1607
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 1: you just watch the highlight we're running on MSG right now.

1608
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: I said, because it's six six you can jump up

1609
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 1: and snare the ball out of the air and go

1610
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: run it the other way for an interception, which is

1611
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 1: better than a sack. Quite frankly, Yeah, he brings more

1612
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: than just that. And I was making the argument yesterday

1613
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: Steve and you can tell me what you think about that.

1614
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: We gotta go to break, but think about this as

1615
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 1: we go to break, and let me know what you

1616
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 1: think when we return. He's largely played his entire career

1617
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: in a three four. I openly wonder if he gives

1618
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: you even more as a player in a four three,

1619
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: knowing he could play end, can kick down and play

1620
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: inside on passing downs. I mean, this guy could play

1621
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: the three or the one if you really needed to

1622
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 1: him in a four three. So I want your thoughts

1623
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 1: when we come back on whether you think his value

1624
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: is even enhanced playing in a four three system as

1625
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 1: opposed to three four at age thirty two. Steve will

1626
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: let us know what he thinks about that when we

1627
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: return here on one Bills Live presented by Kalota Health,

1628
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live.

1629
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: ESPN's Jeremy Fowler joining us in about ten minutes time.

1630
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that is we kind of navigate what

1631
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: will be a very unique offseason with him. He's got

1632
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: a write up on espn dot com now about what

1633
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 1: to expect in the off season in terms of franchise

1634
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: tag candidates, free agency, trades and all of these teams

1635
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: navigating what will be a very tricky salary cap situation

1636
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 1: with the restrictive cap set to be in place here

1637
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 1: and the hard number given somewhere in early March before

1638
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 1: the league year ends, presume presumably anyway, But Steve, we

1639
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 1: wanted to get your answer on your thoughts on JJ

1640
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: Watt potentially going from a three four system for the

1641
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: majority of his career in Houston to a four three system,

1642
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: and if you think he's a more has the potential

1643
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 1: to be an even more valuable player in a four three,

1644
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: well four three three four. Besides, I would say this,

1645
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 1: he the guy's a three time defensive MVP Defensive Player

1646
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: of the Year, and this last year Houston moved him

1647
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: all over the joint. Yeah, so it's not like I

1648
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: don't know if he can do it from here. He

1649
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 1: can do it from everywhere and from a defensive end,

1650
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, right side, left side. That's the guy's resume, right,

1651
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 1: That's why he's a Defensive Player of the Year. He

1652
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 1: can do all of that. Now, for the Bills, you

1653
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: plug if you plugged JJ and brought him down on

1654
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: the guard and let him be on the on the

1655
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 1: nose or on the the a gap. Put Ed Oliver

1656
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 1: at the three technique, put Jerry Hughes outside of JJ,

1657
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: and then put Larry Curler Mo coming off the right side.

1658
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: You got a pretty good you got a pretty good

1659
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 1: pass rush. You got a pretty good pass rush. Ed

1660
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: Oliver would shine in that situation. JJ would have success

1661
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 1: in that situation. Certainly, Jerry Hughes for the first time

1662
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: would be seeing one guy instead of two and a half,

1663
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: which he hasn't seen in the better part of the

1664
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:28,560
Speaker 1: last seven years. That would I think JJ would like

1665
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: it being over there with Jerry and I know Ed

1666
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Oliver would be freed up and the guy on the

1667
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: right side, whoever it would be a J. E. Panessa,

1668
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: you name it, or Mario Addison. You'd get some you'd

1669
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: get some production out of that crew. I would think, Yeah.

1670
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: I just think his versatility is off the charts. Four three.

1671
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: I think you're dealing with less bigger guys grinding on

1672
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: you as much. I mean, he's still going to see

1673
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: double teams. I think we all know that. Well. An

1674
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: extra guy up front there, I don't know. I just

1675
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 1: I think at this at his advanced age of his career,

1676
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:04,919
Speaker 1: you know year ten, you know, playing that five technique,

1677
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: that's a grind. Man in a three four, that's a grind.

1678
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, I mean, Bruce got two hundred

1679
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,879
Speaker 1: sacks from that spot. Yeah, it can be done, obviously,

1680
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 1: but you know you're gonna be the first to tell

1681
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: you it's not as easy though, right, it's not. And

1682
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: I'll say JJ would probably tell you the same thing. Um,

1683
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: it's a grind down there. And you, like I said,

1684
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 1: Bruce was a special cat. Obviously, JJ is a you know,

1685
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: a guy set aside as well. Those guys are special,

1686
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 1: they can do that kind of stuff. But the fact

1687
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 1: four three three four, I think the fact that JJ

1688
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 1: is so valuable is because it don't matter with him.

1689
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 1: You can throw him at tackle or end in a

1690
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 1: four three. He'll be fine. Yeah, he'll be fine. And

1691
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: everybody else on that D line is gonna be loving

1692
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: it because you know the focus is on him, right.

1693
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 1: There are reports coming out of Pittsburgh that Ben Roethlisberger

1694
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: met with team president Art Rooney the second today and

1695
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: the meeting quote went well, according to sources. So it

1696
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 1: looks like at least at the outset, both sides are

1697
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 1: on the same page there. Whether hard numbers were discussed

1698
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:19,480
Speaker 1: remains to be seen there, the general consensus is Roethlisberger

1699
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 1: would at least have to cut his salary number in

1700
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: half from the forty one point three million that currently is.

1701
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: It's a twenty one million dollars salary, but a forty

1702
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: two million dollar cap hit if it goes as is, Yeah,

1703
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,360
Speaker 1: because of all the money they've shoved down the road now,

1704
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: you know. So he's gonna have to sign a new

1705
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: deal no matter what, right, And I don't know if

1706
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 1: the Steelers necessarily want to do that. I mean, Kevin

1707
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: Colbert the GM certainly left some question marks out in

1708
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: the ether when he was asked about it as to

1709
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: what could happen going forward. And I can't remember if

1710
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 1: I discussed this. We discussed this a little bit last week,

1711
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: I think, or maybe it was with me and Maddy

1712
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 1: on Friday, But I would kind of lean towards ripping

1713
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: the band aid off a year earlier than a year

1714
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: too late. And I might turn the page. Now, Well,

1715
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 1: here's the thing I don't and I don't have a

1716
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 1: problem doing that, except that they don't have an answer.

1717
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: You who are you gonna put in there? Man, Mason

1718
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,600
Speaker 1: Rudolph is not. No, he's not. And you've got and

1719
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: you have got to have somebody there. You can't just

1720
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: go cut rip the band aid off and hope that

1721
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: it's healed up. You gotta know that it's gonna be

1722
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: healed up. I'm just thinking it's they're in total teardown

1723
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 1: mode here. I mean, they got guys that are a

1724
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: little long in the tooth. I don't know. You gotta

1725
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 1: there's a part of me that says you're just better

1726
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: off starting over now than trying to pull along the inevitance.

1727
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The Steelers are opposite of the bills,

1728
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 1: and in one respect they don't like change. Well yeah

1729
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 1: and there, and they kept pushing money into the future

1730
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: to pay the pipe bills. I would think this one tho.

1731
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Both those starting corners that are gone, we're gonna replace him.

1732
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna live with it. We're gonna we're gonna bolster

1733
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: someplace else. Yeah, I mean that. But the Stevens, I

1734
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna get rid of both starting

1735
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 1: corners to save twenty five million on a cap or

1736
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: forty million on a cap, however much it is. It's

1737
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 1: a Ton, So, yeah, a lot of work, philosophical decision. Yeah,

1738
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 1: and it starts with ownership. Yeah, a lot of work

1739
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: there break time for us when we return. ESPN's Jeremy

1740
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 1: Fowler to talk to us about this offseason, the franchise, tag,

1741
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 1: free agency and more. He's next here on one Bill's

1742
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 1: Live because anybody collied to health. He's Buffalo Bill's Radio

1743
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 1: at a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields.

1744
01:33:58,400 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

1745
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: player state Steve a blimp. We're not even in the

1746
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: strategyre of normalcy. Oh, we're number three here on a

1747
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 1: Tuesday Chris brown Seed Tasker with you and please to

1748
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: be joined this time by ESPN senior reporter Sports Center,

1749
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 1: NFL Insider. You can follow them on Twitter at Jay

1750
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 1: Fowler ESPN. It is one Jeremy Fowler joining us on

1751
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: the line right now. Jeremy, how you doing. Thanks for

1752
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 1: giving us some time today. We appreciate it anytime, guys.

1753
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Yeah, I want to start here

1754
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 1: because this with the franchise and transition tag designation window

1755
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,559
Speaker 1: opening today. You know, I kind of looked back at

1756
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,719
Speaker 1: one of the write ups you and Dan Graziano teamed

1757
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 1: up on on the ESPN Plus side of things about

1758
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 1: a week ago, and it seemed like from the sources

1759
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 1: that you guys were mining that there was somewhat of

1760
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: a difference of opinion as to whether there would be

1761
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,640
Speaker 1: more people tag than usual or less based on this

1762
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 1: restrictive cap that we're dealing with. Why do you think

1763
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 1: there is that difference of opinion right now? Because nobody

1764
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 1: really knows what's going to happen in this unique offseason,

1765
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 1: or everybody's just guess, oh, there's that, and teams are

1766
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 1: nervous about the salary cap, although I think it's going

1767
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 1: to be at a reasonable spot. You know, I've taught

1768
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 1: to some people today to think around one eighty five

1769
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: is sort of a sweet spot that's being speculated around.

1770
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: Teams I've talked to could be as low as one

1771
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 1: eighty but at least by the league setting that as

1772
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: the floor, it gives a little more guidance, and then

1773
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: they can work out these TV negotiations with these several

1774
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: networks that they've been dealing with, and if they can

1775
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 1: come to maybe some loose agreements in the next few weeks,

1776
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: that could knock it up even more, and so as

1777
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 1: a result of it being lower, the franchise tags are

1778
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,799
Speaker 1: pretty reasonable. You can get a good safety for eleven

1779
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 1: million dollars. You can get a receiver for around probably

1780
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 1: sixteen million, where that number would have been closer to

1781
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty million a year from now. So the

1782
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 1: bucks that gives them more incentive to likely franchise tag.

1783
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of

1784
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 1: the time receivers Kenny Galladay and Detroit, Alan Robinson in

1785
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 1: Chicago get franchise tag. I think that's at least on

1786
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 1: the table because of the reasonable numbers. But at the

1787
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 1: same time, some teams are not going to be willing

1788
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 1: to do that unless they feel like they have an

1789
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: absolute star player because they just don't want to give

1790
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: out big one year payouts right now because of the climate. Now.

1791
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 1: The franchise tag, the number for the position goes based

1792
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 1: on this year's salary cap or base salaries at their

1793
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: position correct, so it's commiserate of the top five highest

1794
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: paid players in the league. But the formula does include

1795
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 1: whatever the salary cap is this year as a backdrop.

1796
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 1: So let's say a number for wide receivers last year

1797
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: was eighteen million for a one year payout on one

1798
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,879
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety eight million dollar cap. That gets reduced

1799
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: once that's overall salary cap to say one hundred and

1800
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: eighty million, which is the current floor. So it takes

1801
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 1: a good close to ten percentage points off of what

1802
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 1: last year's payout was. And so you know, for some

1803
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 1: teams that's going to be more palatable. Do you think,

1804
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people are of the

1805
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: opinion that free agency is still going to see a

1806
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: flood of veteran talent coming into it with some of

1807
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: these cap strap teams that are gonna have to push

1808
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 1: players that they otherwise keep in a normal salary cap

1809
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: climate out into the market, that it's going to be

1810
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 1: a buyer's market here. But do you think that I

1811
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 1: gotta believe that most of those players are gonna be like, well, yeah,

1812
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 1: I'd like to have a job, but I only want

1813
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 1: to sign a one year deal because I want to

1814
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: get back in the market next year when there's more

1815
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 1: money to be spent. Yeah, that's why I think the

1816
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 1: franchise tag in the case of say a Chris Godwin,

1817
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: could be beneficial. And you come back and hit it

1818
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 1: hard next year. But there's gonna be an nervosaturation, no question.

1819
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 1: And we've already seen some really good players get cut.

1820
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 1: We're going to see more. I think some players are

1821
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: taking the stance. You know, if you're like an established

1822
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 1: veteran player on a deal over five million dollars on

1823
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: say the last year of a contract, you're probably approaching

1824
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 1: your team about restructuring your contractor reworking some money to

1825
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: save salary cap space, or you're probably doing yourself a

1826
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 1: disservice right now because you could get cut. So we're

1827
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 1: gonna see some massive names potentially. You know, look at

1828
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 1: a case like JJ Watt. He gets almost a month

1829
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 1: head start on free agency, and so it's gonna be

1830
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 1: for sure a buyer's market to the point where I

1831
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 1: think it's gonna water things down for some players, especially

1832
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 1: like that veteran middle class is gonna get squeezed out. Potentially.

1833
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 1: How does this affect JJ Watt and his search for

1834
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: a new team. He does get a headstart, but up

1835
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,719
Speaker 1: until you're like you said, just the last few days,

1836
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: nobody knew exactly or even had a bullpark figure of

1837
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: what the cap might be, which for a player of

1838
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 1: his caliber, you kind of got to know exactly what

1839
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 1: the CAP's gonna be before you kind of extend yourself

1840
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 1: to that extent. Yeah, I think when he asked for

1841
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:49,719
Speaker 1: his release, he knew that he would have a pretty

1842
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 1: strong market, and it is shaking out that way. Teams

1843
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 1: are still a little cautious, but they feel like regardless,

1844
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,560
Speaker 1: JJ Watt would be pretty high on the list of

1845
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 1: defensive ends available. You know, like you know what you're getting.

1846
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: He can be an every down player for you. He

1847
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 1: can be a situational pass rusher, but he can really

1848
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: do whatever you need. The only concerns with the age

1849
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: and the history or the injury history. So that does

1850
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 1: knock down his market a little bit, but that was

1851
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: going to be the case whether he's a free agent

1852
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 1: now or in mid March. So the only worry is

1853
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 1: that he has to wait a little bit. But regardless,

1854
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I do see it as advantageous as opposed to waiting

1855
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,480
Speaker 1: with the other top ten defensive ends that could be available.

1856
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 1: So you know, right now he's gonna have you know,

1857
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 1: from what I hear, he is sort of whittling down,

1858
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: narrowing down the process of finalists, so to speak, no

1859
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 1: determinations made, but I'm told he is making progress. And

1860
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 1: then just with respect, because there's there was some thought that,

1861
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe what the bill should do is is

1862
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 1: tag Matt Milano, but they're kind of tight against the

1863
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: cap as it currently stands, and I don't know, like

1864
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem to make the most sense, knowing that

1865
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: Brandon being as a matter of course, likes to stay

1866
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 1: CAP strong, as he puts it, and that wouldn't do that,

1867
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 1: especially if the Milano camp quick signs the thing, um

1868
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, and now you're now you're locked in? Um right,

1869
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:11,799
Speaker 1: How how low would you put the odds of that happening,

1870
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 1: because I just I just don't think it's feasible. Really,

1871
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,440
Speaker 1: I think they're pretty low, especially with the Bill's priorities.

1872
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 1: You know, they're obviously looking into the JJ Watt situation.

1873
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: You know, they have seven or eight good defensive front players,

1874
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 1: several of which are on a you know, not a

1875
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: massive salary, but enough where you maybe think about your

1876
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 1: roster overall and what you have to do there so

1877
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 1: you could see some moving parts. Um. I just I

1878
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 1: think Matt Milano was bracing for free agency a while ago.

1879
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 1: I just think it was trending that way. Now, Uh,

1880
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure they'll have some talks, and you know,

1881
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: he fits their scheme really well and he's a quality player.

1882
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 1: I just think he's gonna have a strong market and

1883
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 1: so maybe even more so than you would have thought

1884
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 1: a year ago. And so that just complicates matters where

1885
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, you're probably not gonna pay a guy like

1886
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 1: that fourteen fifteen million dollars a year based on having

1887
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 1: a really good roster, and you have to budget for

1888
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: players that you need to pay now, a year from now,

1889
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 1: two years from now. Obviously Josh Allen comes to mind,

1890
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds. You already took character Davious White. But these

1891
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 1: are the issues and they're very good issues to have

1892
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: when you draft and developed player as well. So I

1893
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 1: just think that he's going to go to a place

1894
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 1: like say a Cincinnati or somewhere that really needs linebacker help,

1895
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 1: that can pay that top dollar because they have the

1896
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 1: cap space. When you talk about you know, this offseason

1897
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 1: and how it hit, things have changed a lot of

1898
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the revolving door trip. We've already seen one

1899
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 1: trade happen. It'll be finalized between the lines and the Rams,

1900
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 1: and we've seen both it worked both for the club

1901
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 1: and for the player, and for neither as well. All

1902
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 1: the cautionary tales about how you handled an extension for

1903
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: your quarterback. Carson Wentz is going to be responsible for

1904
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 1: the biggest cap dead cap hit in history to the

1905
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. And you look at Dak Prescott and the

1906
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and how that's been botched. Now that the

1907
01:41:56,600 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: La Rams have now given their quarterback and first round

1908
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 1: draft picks to the to the Detroit Lions so that

1909
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: they'll take his contract. Yeah, when's the best time and

1910
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,679
Speaker 1: what's the criteria or these team's gonna used to extend

1911
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback like a Josh Allen, like a you know,

1912
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: and Mahome. We've seen him work. It works for Mahomes.

1913
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 1: It's Deshaun Watson now has become a nightmare. When do

1914
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 1: you extend these guys? When can you be sure that

1915
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna see the end of that contract? Right,

1916
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,759
Speaker 1: you just ran through every scenario and we've hit the spectrum.

1917
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 1: And I didn't think that we would hit this kind

1918
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: of spectrum just in the last two years. Right, we've

1919
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 1: seen we've seen everything and so now, teams like the Bills,

1920
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: like the Ravens, the Browns can go off that research

1921
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 1: that's valuable to them because they can now decide what's

1922
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 1: worth it and what's not. But for the Bills, if

1923
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,280
Speaker 1: they do decide to do it this offseason with Josh Allen,

1924
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear they consider him and most consider him

1925
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 1: a top five pretty much top tier quarterback, even though

1926
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:00,799
Speaker 1: he's got some things to work on. But you're betting

1927
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,599
Speaker 1: on him being far less of a potential bust than

1928
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz has become. I don't want to call him

1929
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 1: a bust, but for things to unravel like they did

1930
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 1: for Jared Golf and Carson Wentz, you know, you believe

1931
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen is a higher caliber of player based

1932
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: on what he's shown on his resume so far. So

1933
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 1: that coupled with the fact that you have the fifth

1934
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:21,600
Speaker 1: year option in the rookie deals, so if you do

1935
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 1: it now, you get two years cushion to manipulate that

1936
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,679
Speaker 1: salary cap. It does make it easier to get ahead

1937
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 1: of the money. So the downside is what we just

1938
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 1: saw with Wentz. You're just you're betting on that not happening.

1939
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 1: But the Bills. They've done everything possible to surround him

1940
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 1: as a lot of talent, good pieces around him. They've

1941
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: made clear he's the guy. All those things didn't quite

1942
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 1: happen in Philadelphia and LA and so, you know, I

1943
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 1: think it will. I think either way it can. It

1944
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 1: can work for the Bills if they wait a year.

1945
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 1: There's really not an issue there either, because to be honest,

1946
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't wonder if some of these players don't wait,

1947
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, because teams are inevitably going to try to

1948
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 1: get the slight discount now and they're going to try

1949
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 1: to account for the cap and say, well, it's been COVID.

1950
01:44:01,240 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 1: It's uncertain. You know, we can get you to high number,

1951
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 1: but we need to save a female in here or there.

1952
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 1: Maybe the player says, look, I'm gonna wait and kind

1953
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:11,560
Speaker 1: of max this out, wait till twenty twenty two and

1954
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 1: go from there. You know, I could see that maybe

1955
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 1: in a case like a Baker Mayfield, Hey I'm gonna

1956
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,719
Speaker 1: bet on myself one more year and see what happens.

1957
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 1: So either way, it's it's we forget that the player

1958
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 1: has options too in this and so but you know,

1959
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 1: I think it will become pretty clear by the summer

1960
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,680
Speaker 1: that both sides want to be together a long time.

1961
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 1: It can make it happen if they want to. Talking

1962
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,719
Speaker 1: to ESPN senior reporter and NFL inside or Jeremy Fowler,

1963
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 1: and you know, Jeremy, We've got the rest of the

1964
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 1: division somewhat in a quarterback quandary here. And while the

1965
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: Bills fans are over the moon that they've clearly got

1966
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the division right now, there is

1967
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of consternation about where Deshaun Watson could

1968
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 1: potentially end up. Knowing that we've seen reports that the

1969
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 1: Dolphins could be interested. They certainly have trade capital to

1970
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 1: make something like that happen, along with a quarterback they

1971
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: could send back in return. The Jets as well as

1972
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 1: we know who knows what the Patriots they're doing. They

1973
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 1: always seem to be lying in the weeds and then

1974
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 1: they look and get a bargain basement option and somehow

1975
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 1: make it work, although it didn't with Cam this past year.

1976
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: So how do you see those three teams kind of

1977
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 1: navigating this offseason at the quarterback position. I think all

1978
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 1: three are determined to get better of that position. Even

1979
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 1: if the Dolphins stayed out with Tua, I think you'll

1980
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: see an overall better class in the FC East because

1981
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: they know they got outclassed this year. They just didn't

1982
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 1: have enough there. You know, the Patriots with the cap space,

1983
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 1: they have over fifty million dollars. It's not just about

1984
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 1: the quarterback for them. But I know they're going to

1985
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 1: be aggressive. I'm from what I've heard that it's not

1986
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:44,280
Speaker 1: a rebuilt situation. They're by any stretch. You know, they're

1987
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 1: gonna add pieces, they're gonna resign pieces, and they're going

1988
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 1: to explore all quarterback options. Whether that's like you know,

1989
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 1: a Marcus Mariota that's more of a say, a bargain

1990
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 1: and you could make a trade for him for maybe

1991
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:57,680
Speaker 1: your mid round pick with Las Vegas, or if you

1992
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 1: go to the free agent round. They know they have

1993
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 1: to do something. They're probably not in Deshaun Watson's immediate

1994
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 1: plans right now, even though they had the relationship with

1995
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 1: Nick Kissario the GM. I just don't know if they're

1996
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 1: the most attractive option for Watson. But it's funny because

1997
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 1: all this is a moot point with him, because you

1998
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 1: ask around the league and they say, look, Nick Casserio,

1999
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 1: coming from the Patriots Tree, he's a principal man. He's

2000
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 1: like the last guy that would trade Deshaun Watson. That's

2001
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 1: kind of how people feel like teams feel like it's

2002
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 1: sort of they're gonna keep calling, but it's the resigned

2003
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: to the faith that this very well might not happen.

2004
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 1: And so both sides appeared dug in and look, if

2005
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:36,640
Speaker 1: it does come to fruition, you know, I think from

2006
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 1: what I've heard, at least early indications or that the

2007
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,559
Speaker 1: Dolphins would have a better chance with Watson, or would

2008
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 1: at least be more intriguing to him than say, the Jets.

2009
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 1: That's not to disparage the Jets would say they can't

2010
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 1: do it, but I think that's how it would stack

2011
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 1: up right now. But we'll see. I mean, the Jets

2012
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 1: have the probably the best profile overall. To make it happen,

2013
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 1: it's going to require at least three first round picks

2014
01:46:57,200 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 1: to do so. And how much credence do we give

2015
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 1: to teams like the Carolina Panthers. We see them shedding salaries,

2016
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 1: We see the Packers doing the same thing. People suspect

2017
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 1: the Packers are doing that to make a run at

2018
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,600
Speaker 1: JJ Watt. People suspect that Carolina is doing that to

2019
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 1: make a run at Deshaun Watson. But with the uncertainty

2020
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 1: that you just laid out concerning Cassio, I just wonder

2021
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 1: if there's another reason that the Panthers are trying to

2022
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 1: clear salary cap space so or if it is just

2023
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 1: putting all their eggs in the Watson basket. Yeah. I

2024
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: think in a case of the Panthers, they were going

2025
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: to do that regardless. Deshaun Watson's cap hit this year

2026
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 1: for a team trading form would only be like fifteen

2027
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 1: point nine million, which for a player that calibers, Yeah,

2028
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 1: that's great. And so the Panthers already had roughly that space.

2029
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 1: They're close to it, like they I don't think it

2030
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: was like, hey we got to shed twenty million salary

2031
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 1: to get to Shaan right now. I don't think that

2032
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 1: was the case. I think that was something the're gonna do. Anyways,

2033
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 1: same thing with the Packers that the Packers are underwater.

2034
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 1: I mean they're like they were like twenty eight million

2035
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 1: projected to be over the cap space wherever the cap

2036
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 1: this year leading into mid March, so they have to

2037
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 1: make some moves to create space, and you know, nearly

2038
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 1: half the league has to do so right now because

2039
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:11,599
Speaker 1: they're a lot of them are in the red. How

2040
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 1: do you think that's gonna play out? And what you

2041
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 1: know we've been talking about, how you know, a team

2042
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 1: like the New Orleans Saints, they've got a ton of

2043
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 1: their their way over the cap, and they've got a

2044
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 1: ton of guys making a lot of money. And even

2045
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 1: if they cut some of these guys or flight out

2046
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 1: release them, like for instance, on sixteen million dollars salary,

2047
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 1: they only gain they have nineteen million of it is

2048
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 1: dead cap. I mean, so yeah, it's almost untenable for

2049
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 1: the Saints in the current market going forward with the cap,

2050
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: even if it's one hundred and eighty five million. What

2051
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 1: do you think it's gonna look like for these teams

2052
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: like the Saints, like the Philadelphia Eagles, even the Chiefs

2053
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: are in this in this boat a little bit? You know,

2054
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 1: what's it gonna look like for these teams when they

2055
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,799
Speaker 1: get down to the deadline and they're still eight digits

2056
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:01,799
Speaker 1: over the cap. I mean, yeah, it's it's ugly, especially

2057
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 1: for that team and the Eagles. And you're gonna see cuts.

2058
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna see well known players cut you're going to

2059
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 1: see really good players he normally wouldn't have to do

2060
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 1: anything with, but maybe have a year or two year

2061
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: left on their deals. You're going to probably if you

2062
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: want to keep them, you're just gonna rework their contract,

2063
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 1: restructure it in a big way to take their base salary,

2064
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: move it into like a signing bonus. You can pro

2065
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 1: rate it, you know, like in the Saints Toronto Armstead

2066
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:28,759
Speaker 1: comes to mind, really good, probably a top five left tackle.

2067
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: They don't want to get rid of him, but he's

2068
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 1: got a i think an eighteen million dollar cap hit

2069
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 1: or something like that, so you need to spread that out.

2070
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 1: So maybe you extend his contract or maybe you just

2071
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 1: rework it. But you know they're gonna have to look

2072
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 1: at every every roster spot. Um, Michael Thomas probably going

2073
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:48,600
Speaker 1: into this year, you can make an argument he was

2074
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 1: the best receiver in football, had a tough year with

2075
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 1: injuries and issues with teammates and didn't score a touchdown,

2076
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 1: and so eighteen point eight million dollar cap pit. You know,

2077
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 1: people are at least asking and you talk to like

2078
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 1: say agents or teams are in the league, like maybe

2079
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 1: the Saints would do something, but Michael Thomas, maybe they

2080
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 1: would try to trade them. I don't think that's I

2081
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 1: don't think so. But everything is on the table right

2082
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: now because of the situation that a team like the

2083
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,559
Speaker 1: Saints had put themselves in counting on the cap being

2084
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 1: two hundred ten million this year in a normal year.

2085
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 1: Instead it's thirty million behind. So let's let's address that,

2086
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: because we're what we could be looking at. Because I

2087
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 1: know you in Graziano, in the right up you put

2088
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 1: up put together last week, said there could be maybe

2089
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more activity in the trade market than

2090
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 1: maybe some people might be anticipating. Are we saying that

2091
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 1: we could very well be looking at a half a

2092
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 1: dozen teams in this league? Rams come to mind, Eagles

2093
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 1: come to mind. Where you're going to have half a

2094
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 1: dozen to maybe eight or nine premier players on these

2095
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 1: rosters that you're paying top dollar, and then the rest

2096
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 1: of the roster is going to largely be minimum salary guys,

2097
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 1: one year deal guys that are filling the rest of

2098
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 1: the holes, like the Rams are gonna be Aaron Donald,

2099
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Robert Woods, Cooper Cup, Matthew Stafford and a

2100
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: bunch of guys. I mean, that's kind of how it

2101
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 1: looks on the surface, I know that's not totally accurate,

2102
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying. So then you're really

2103
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 1: depending on those star players, and if you have an

2104
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 1: injury to Aaron Donald where he misses six weeks, you

2105
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 1: could be screwed on defense if you're the Rams. Yeah,

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01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,560
Speaker 1: it's already been trending that way where if you do

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01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: big money deals you can only do six or seven. Really,

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01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 1: I think seven's probably the max you can do under

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01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 1: the even the current salary cap constraints in a normal year.

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01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 1: So how many teams could look like that Jeremy in

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01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, knowing how many are cap strapped, I

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01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 1: mean most of them. It's already trending that way, but

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01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 1: it's you know, it depends on where you currently sit

2114
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 1: and how you like. If you had already done a

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01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 1: bunch of deals a year ago and you didn't expect

2116
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 1: COVID to change things the way they did, then yeah,

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01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 1: you're sort of stuck on some of those big money

2118
01:51:58,200 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: deals that you can hope you can get out of.

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01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 1: But if they're still in their infancy, you're only one

2120
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 1: year from when you did them, it's gonna be tough

2121
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 1: to manipulate that. You kind of got to write it

2122
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 1: out and you write draft players, undrafted free agents. Some

2123
01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: rosters comprise sometimes forty percent of rosters can be undrafted

2124
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,720
Speaker 1: free agents, and a lot of cases are higher. So

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01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:20,799
Speaker 1: you've got to really hit on those kind of players.

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01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned the RAMS. I think you have

2127
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 1: three different positions where a player doesn't have a cap

2128
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:29,240
Speaker 1: hit of two million or over because they have so

2129
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 1: much money to the Jalen Ramseys and the Aaron Donalds

2130
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 1: of the world. So yeah, there's there's a lot to

2131
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 1: shake out and there's really no clear cut answer. Most years,

2132
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 1: teams don't really care that much about the salary cap,

2133
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 1: like the media makes more about it than the teams do.

2134
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 1: They care more about the cash and what the owners

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01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 1: willing to spend, and that's the bottom line, and the cap.

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01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 1: You can kind of move it around a restructure, guy

2137
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 1: contracts and cut players, but now it's real because it's regressed,

2138
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,400
Speaker 1: it's a real issue. Yeah, they go down about twelve

2139
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 1: deep on the RAMS roster, and the bottom two on

2140
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:02,880
Speaker 1: that list are Johnny Heckerho's making four point nine and

2141
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 1: a Shawn Robinson who's making four point two. Everybody else.

2142
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 1: After that, everybody kind of goes away, and then it

2143
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 1: climbs all the way up to Aaron Donald, who's got

2144
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: a twenty seven million, twenty eight million dollars cap hit,

2145
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:18,799
Speaker 1: Jayden Ramsey, Matt Stafford, Cooper Cup, Robert Woods, all these guys,

2146
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 1: all those guys from on Andrew Whitworth up through the

2147
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 1: top six or seven guys, they're all got a ten

2148
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 1: figure cap hit. And after that everybody's just you know,

2149
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 1: a guy. It's just crazy to think about a roster

2150
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:37,640
Speaker 1: makeup being that way this day and age Jeremy. But

2151
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 1: I guess that's one way to skin the cat. The

2152
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 1: Bills tend to go in a different direction. They tend

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01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:46,560
Speaker 1: to go with volume that didn't work for them on

2154
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: their defensive line, I think, as they had hoped it

2155
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: would last year. Do you anticipate them shuffling the deck

2156
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: by looking for just one answer JJ Watt being the

2157
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: priming example, or do you think they kind of go

2158
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 1: shotgun approach again and go budgetary with middle tier people,

2159
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:10,679
Speaker 1: especially in what could be a depressed middle tier market.

2160
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 1: I think that depends on the player. I'm sure that

2161
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 1: the Bills have one or two guys circled where they say, hey,

2162
01:54:17,439 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: that guy's a difference maker. We would take a shot

2163
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 1: on him at a relatively large number. But it all

2164
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 1: depends on what you think is fair for a guy

2165
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 1: like you know, So I wouldn't be surprised if they

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01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: added more volume because at least with that situation, if

2167
01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 1: you do like tow your deals or you got guys

2168
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 1: with manageable contracts, you can you have more flexibility, you

2169
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 1: can get out of them if you need to. You

2170
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 1: can add subtract a little more, a little more swiftly,

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01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 1: so that it wouldn't really surprise me either way. Like

2172
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 1: I could see them going after, you know, one key

2173
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 1: guy if they really liked them, you know, especially like

2174
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:51,360
Speaker 1: defensive end. There aren't there are some good players, but

2175
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, a Trey Hendrickson or a Jadeveon Clowney. I

2176
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 1: don't know if that's just to have to have it

2177
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: type guy when you can draft a guy like that

2178
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 1: in the first or second round too. So yeah, I

2179
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 1: think this is a pretty um you know, it's a

2180
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 1: thoughtful front office that's not really gonna overreact to free

2181
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 1: agency in that way. One last one for me, Jeremy,

2182
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 1: and as we kind of turned the page and start

2183
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. What are some of the maybe

2184
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 1: lingering things that have changed because of the pandemic that

2185
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 1: we all lived through in the league got two hundred

2186
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: and fifty six regular season games in a full playoff compliment.

2187
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 1: Nobody missed a game. It was an unbelievable accomplishment. But man,

2188
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 1: oh man, did they jump through some fiery hoops to

2189
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 1: make it happen. What do you think lingers from the

2190
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty season into twenty twenty one. Well, I mean

2191
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 1: it's it's at you're at the mercy of the virus

2192
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 1: where it seems like things are training in a right direction,

2193
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: but but they don't know where it's going to be.

2194
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 1: In April May, I think you're gonna see a trimmed

2195
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: down off season once again. It's gonna be weird. You know,

2196
01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna have teams that are frustrated because they can't

2197
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 1: practice with their own players. They have to still negotiate

2198
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 1: some of that out, but April and May could look

2199
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 1: pretty scarce as far as OTAs and what you can do.

2200
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 1: And so you have this issue of young players meeting

2201
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:07,760
Speaker 1: to play and not having an outlet to do so,

2202
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 1: and veterans wanting to stay away because the virus is

2203
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 1: a convenient outlet to make that case. And so you know,

2204
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 1: they want to keep their jobs and they know rookies

2205
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 1: can do that and take them. So it's you're gonna

2206
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 1: have that back and forth. You're gonna have the vaccine issue.

2207
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 1: You know, who's comfortable taking it? Are they going to

2208
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:26,760
Speaker 1: mandate that all players take it? You know? But I

2209
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a cleaner off season than

2210
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:31,440
Speaker 1: last year because last year what loon large this cloud

2211
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 1: was can we even play? And now the clear answer

2212
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 1: is yes, And so that's been depositive and so at

2213
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: least the league as positive momentum coming off that fascinating

2214
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 1: stuff to kind of navigate here, even in this second

2215
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 1: COVID related off season, and we know you'll have your

2216
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 1: ear to the ground on all of it. Jeremy, thanks

2217
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 1: for the insight. We appreciate the time. Thanks Jeremy, Hey, thanks, guys,

2218
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Have it going. That's ESPN NFL veteran reporter

2219
01:56:57,040 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 1: and insider Jeremy Fowler joining us and kind of spelling

2220
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 1: things out for what is going to be a unique offseason.

2221
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 1: And even with all the people that he talks to.

2222
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 1: It is at the end of the day, hypotheses, it's

2223
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 1: educated guesses as to exactly how it's gonna look. And

2224
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these teams are going to

2225
01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:19,800
Speaker 1: have different approaches, and I think Buffalo's approach here in

2226
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:23,120
Speaker 1: the off season is going to measure in sharp contrast

2227
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 1: to what a team like the Rams have done already,

2228
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 1: and what a team like the Saints will do, and

2229
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:32,919
Speaker 1: maybe even what Pittsburgh does with their terrible cap situation

2230
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 1: that they've put off and put off and put off,

2231
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 1: and now with a restrictive cap, they got to get

2232
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 1: down to brass tash right too. At the top of

2233
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 1: the of it, he said, And he reminded me, because

2234
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 1: I had completely forgotten about it, that the franchise tag

2235
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 1: limitations in that ye are linked to the percentage of

2236
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 1: the salary cap. So yeah, that's the backdrop. It does

2237
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:56,920
Speaker 1: drop off the percentage. They have a ten to fifteen

2238
01:57:56,920 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 1: percent discompt right, they're getting discounted on their franchise. Don't

2239
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 1: know if that's really gonna make that big a difference.

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01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 1: It will for Dak Prescott and it will for the

2241
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver position, I think, which is why so many

2242
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 1: people are predicting that some of these top wideouts are

2243
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 1: going to get tagged, whether it's Kenny Golladay or Alan

2244
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: Robinson or Chris Godwin. The Bucks absolutely why Chris Godwin

2245
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 1: back in the fold, you know in twenty twenty one,

2246
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 1: But instead of signing him to a long term deal,

2247
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 1: which may be hard to do right now, tag him

2248
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 1: this year, which he won't have a problem with because

2249
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 1: he's more than happy to go back in the market

2250
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 1: next year when the numbers get reinflated to what they're

2251
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:39,800
Speaker 1: normally expected to be. Yeah, I'll place for sixteen million

2252
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 1: this year so i can cash in next year, and

2253
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: the Bucks are happy because they have him back in

2254
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 1: the fold, and then you figure out whether you can

2255
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 1: sign them to a long term deal next year. So

2256
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 1: that's why I think some of these receivers are gonna

2257
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 1: be tagged by their respective teams to keep him in

2258
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 1: the fold at least for this year, and then you

2259
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 1: figure it out next year when the cap gets back

2260
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:00,240
Speaker 1: to a one normal number that you were anticipate eating

2261
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:03,879
Speaker 1: in the first place. Looking down the list other positions

2262
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 1: where it could happen defensive end, you might tag a

2263
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 1: guy at sixteen million happily because it's not eighteen or twenty.

2264
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's it looks like a bargain because you're

2265
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 1: getting him at a ten to fifteen percent discount. I

2266
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't it's not gonna happen at linebacker

2267
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 1: because it's still fourteen point six. That's still too steep

2268
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: for me, even for a player of Milano's caliba. Even

2269
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 1: if it's if it's a ten percent drop, that's still

2270
01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 1: fourteen six. It only goes down to what thirteen five? Well, no,

2271
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 1: it is fourteen six with the discount. With the discount, yeah,

2272
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 1: and with one hundred and eighty million dollar cap it's like,

2273
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:40,680
Speaker 1: I E. You know, you got five linemen, you gotta

2274
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, and you got defensive line what

2275
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:47,200
Speaker 1: are you doing there? I don't know. It's it's and yeah,

2276
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 1: you don't want to tie that amount of money up

2277
01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 1: pre free agency, right, And Buffalo's approach has not been

2278
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 1: to tie up all that money in one guy at

2279
01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 1: least to this point in the being McDermott regime. They've

2280
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 1: tended to go volume approach, you know, so they have

2281
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:11,080
Speaker 1: depth and they have capable players. If they don't have

2282
02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 1: a superstar player, The question is does that approach change

2283
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:17,160
Speaker 1: because they got as close as they did this year,

2284
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:21,360
Speaker 1: That's what is the I don't think they do either.

2285
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so. You've seen it time and time

2286
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:27,839
Speaker 1: again around the league, and Brandon being said, no big splashes,

2287
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:30,040
Speaker 1: do not expect big splashes. But there's gonna be some

2288
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 1: really tempting guys shaken out of the trees here, and

2289
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:38,000
Speaker 1: I wonder if they take the plunch. That's the thing though.

2290
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 1: You get these teams and they were just one more

2291
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: guy away, one more guy way, One more guy was

2292
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:44,760
Speaker 1: a dangerous game to play. It's a very dangerous game

2293
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 1: to play because what happens if you come in and

2294
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:49,880
Speaker 1: you're you're tearing through the league, you get to a

2295
02:00:49,960 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 1: division round of the playoffs, miracle and miracle in Minnesota,

2296
02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 1: Saints go home. Yeah, you know, you get into that

2297
02:00:57,480 --> 02:01:00,520
Speaker 1: spot in the playoffs, Saints went home to that way.

2298
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:03,920
Speaker 1: Bad call from the refs against the Rams. That has

2299
02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 1: nothing to do with your cat Nope, that has nothing

2300
02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:09,440
Speaker 1: to do with your free agent market. That has nothing

2301
02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:11,480
Speaker 1: to do anything. That is what happens on that game did.

2302
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:14,200
Speaker 1: The thing you gotta do is you've got to be

2303
02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 1: there every year because once you get there, none of

2304
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:20,040
Speaker 1: that stuff you did in the offseason is gonna make

2305
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:22,680
Speaker 1: any difference because you've overcome it by that time. You

2306
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 1: got to give yourself a chance to get into that

2307
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 1: game by staying discipline, knowing that the plan you have

2308
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 1: set out, that your blueprint works. And there's a lot

2309
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:35,800
Speaker 1: of hard work in that, not from evaluating players, not

2310
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,800
Speaker 1: from picking the right guys. It's spending your money and

2311
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 1: not overspending, and then getting your coaching staff to get

2312
02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 1: the most out of what there is there, whether it's

2313
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:48,920
Speaker 1: a great defensive backfield group and a great old line

2314
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Speaker 1: or this year it's different, it's going to be great

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02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:56,000
Speaker 1: linebackers and great offensive line. You know, whatever it is,

2316
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,200
Speaker 1: whatever your strengths are, that's that's the identity of your team.

2317
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 1: You gotta be willing to embrace it for that season

2318
02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:04,440
Speaker 1: and go. You gotta go and give yourself a chance

2319
02:02:04,480 --> 02:02:08,960
Speaker 1: to get back there. You can't here's what you can't do.

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02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 1: You can't think you're gonna do it the exact same

2321
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Speaker 1: way every year, Not in the today's NFL. You're gonna

2322
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:17,840
Speaker 1: have to do it with the biggest value out of

2323
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:19,960
Speaker 1: your roster, no matter what it looks like, well, you're

2324
02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:22,600
Speaker 1: gonna do a defense first, offense second, or vice versa.

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Speaker 1: And as an owner, you have to ultimately trust your

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02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:28,080
Speaker 1: personnel department that they're going to make those decisions correctly

2327
02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:31,440
Speaker 1: and evaluate the talent correctly so it fits what you're

2328
02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:34,200
Speaker 1: whatever you're gonna look like in the next year. The

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02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 1: NFL coaches, it doesn't matter what it looks like, what

2330
02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:39,160
Speaker 1: the players are gonna make it look like. Now, coaches

2331
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:40,640
Speaker 1: are gonna get your players to do what they do

2332
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 1: best and stay away from what they don't do and

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Speaker 1: disguise it. Break time for us more of your mail

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02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:48,600
Speaker 1: bag questions when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by a collot of health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:04,160
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker,

2337
02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:06,720
Speaker 1: final half hour for a Tuesday edition of One Bills Live,

2338
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:09,480
Speaker 1: and we want to get back to some of those

2339
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:14,120
Speaker 1: leftover fan mail bag questions. This one from Rick, and

2340
02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 1: he says, if John Brown is released, who do you

2341
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:19,240
Speaker 1: see filling his roster spot? Is it someone from the

2342
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:23,160
Speaker 1: practice squad like Duke Williams, Jake Kumero, Isaiah Hodgins, or

2343
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:29,200
Speaker 1: from the outside draft or free agency. It will be interesting, Steve.

2344
02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 1: A lot of people are already speculating with the tight

2345
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 1: cap situation, what do they do? They go right to

2346
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:37,840
Speaker 1: the salary cap impact. They look for the guy that's

2347
02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:41,600
Speaker 1: the biggest cap savings and those are facts. The biggest

2348
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:45,800
Speaker 1: cap savings would be John Brown on the current roster,

2349
02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 1: he would be savings of almost eight million dollars. So

2350
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:55,200
Speaker 1: people start adding up numbers and saying, Okay, maybe John

2351
02:03:55,240 --> 02:03:57,960
Speaker 1: Brown's a candidate to be released and he's he is?

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02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 1: I mean that is if they feel they need to

2353
02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:04,880
Speaker 1: or even restructured. Well, yeah, that's an option too, but enduring,

2354
02:04:06,600 --> 02:04:09,160
Speaker 1: if you go for the premise that he's gone, how's

2355
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:10,480
Speaker 1: he going to replace? You know, who's going to be

2356
02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:12,640
Speaker 1: in the four wide spot? Right? Basically is a question?

2357
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 1: So this so this now gets back to what you

2358
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 1: were discussing, Steve, what is the formula you know you're

2359
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 1: going to change the way your offense looks this year

2360
02:04:20,920 --> 02:04:22,480
Speaker 1: with all of the linemen that are up in free

2361
02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 1: agency um and with potential cap casualties like a John Brown.

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02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:30,560
Speaker 1: Do you replace speed with speed or do you take

2363
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:34,000
Speaker 1: the blend of the receiving corps in a different direction? Here,

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02:04:35,160 --> 02:04:37,280
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna go four wide, which there's

2365
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:39,160
Speaker 1: no telling that they may, they may go back and

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02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:43,000
Speaker 1: just go three wide with a tight end all the time. Um,

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02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 1: if they do go four wide, I think their replacement

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02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 1: for John Brown, if he's if he's what we're talking about,

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02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:53,360
Speaker 1: it happens, the hypothetical that he's released happens. I think

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02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:59,880
Speaker 1: the guy's in house. I think it's um Duke will

2371
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:03,240
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgins. We don't know what he looks like. I

2372
02:05:03,280 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 1: think it'll be really interesting to see him come back

2373
02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:09,720
Speaker 1: because he'll be a completely different piece than John Brown was. Yes,

2374
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:14,480
Speaker 1: he was a big, big dude, big target, different matchup,

2375
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:20,120
Speaker 1: different identity in the passing game on a different tool

2376
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 1: set for Brian day Bolt to try and create things with.

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02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:26,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think Duke Williams would be the same

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02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:29,320
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Kumro is the same kind of guy.

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02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:34,960
Speaker 1: Four or five. We're talking about changing the dynamics of

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02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:40,960
Speaker 1: your receiving core sliding more to size than to speed

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02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:47,280
Speaker 1: and separation, right, So it would change the dynamics pretty precipitously.

2382
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:51,040
Speaker 1: Because let's not forget Isaiah McKenzie is a free agent

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02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 1: that's more speed you're subtracting from the receiving core. If

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02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:57,000
Speaker 1: you take John Brown away, that's more speed that you're

2385
02:05:57,040 --> 02:06:01,840
Speaker 1: subtracting from the too fastest guys are gone, right. That

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02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:06,040
Speaker 1: changes things. It does, but it it doesn't make things hopeless. No,

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02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:08,320
Speaker 1: no necessarily saying that it does, it's and it also

2388
02:06:08,360 --> 02:06:11,600
Speaker 1: doesn't make it necessarily less productive. Yeah, it's gonna look different.

2389
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:14,600
Speaker 1: It's different. It's different, and different is not bad. It's

2390
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:18,560
Speaker 1: just different. Yeah, and that's you know, you gotta get

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02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:20,160
Speaker 1: your mind around it. You get in the red zone

2392
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:21,960
Speaker 1: and now you might have three different guys you can

2393
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:24,800
Speaker 1: throw jump balls too. It maybe Dawson Knox, James Kumero

2394
02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:27,800
Speaker 1: and Isaiah Hodgins, who goes six three's right, and let's

2395
02:06:27,800 --> 02:06:30,480
Speaker 1: not forget Gave Davis, who's six two, and Kumaro. Suddenly

2396
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:32,760
Speaker 1: you're a size receiving corps. Kumaro had a nice cat

2397
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:34,520
Speaker 1: and the one time Kumar got on the field, all

2398
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:36,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's he catches a touchdown. The next

2399
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Speaker 1: week and the next week he's in New Orleans. Kumarro

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Speaker 1: six five, Dawson Knox six five, Isaiah Hodgens six three,

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02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 1: gave Davis six two, suddenly you're a size receiving cord.

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02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:50,360
Speaker 1: That's a problem for people for matchups. It particularly in

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02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:53,680
Speaker 1: red zone and short yardage kind of you know situation

2404
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:55,160
Speaker 1: where you want to throw the football because in the

2405
02:06:55,240 --> 02:06:57,880
Speaker 1: red zone, those are guys that are open when they're

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02:06:57,920 --> 02:07:00,600
Speaker 1: not open just because of their sheer side. That's right,

2407
02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:04,040
Speaker 1: they're open when they're not open. And so we talk

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02:07:04,080 --> 02:07:07,280
Speaker 1: about how the offense changed from being a team that

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02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 1: relied on ball control and running the ball. They went

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Speaker 1: to a four wide look. And now in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: the possibility at least exists that you could go all size,

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02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:22,160
Speaker 1: all in on size. Diggs is still your number one,

2413
02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 1: mister separation over there. Beasley is still mister separation over there.

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02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 1: So you still have those two parts of your offense

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02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:31,320
Speaker 1: that are your primary receiving weapons, but you've got a

2416
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:33,400
Speaker 1: ton of size over here that you may want to

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02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:36,080
Speaker 1: tap into from time to time, especially in the red zone.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, think about it, think about the and here's

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Speaker 1: why it's different, not better or worse. Like it goes

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02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 1: from productive that they were in twenty twenty two unproductive

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Speaker 1: because they went to these guys. It could be much

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Speaker 1: different because here's what you're looking at the matchups. We

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02:07:51,400 --> 02:07:53,720
Speaker 1: always talk about Brian Dable being able to take advantage of.

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02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 1: So you get Steph Diggs and Cole Beasley on one

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02:07:57,200 --> 02:07:59,880
Speaker 1: side of the formation. Then you go to the other side.

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02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:05,840
Speaker 1: You go Dawson Knox, Jake Kumereau and Isaiah Hodgins or

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02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis or any of those guys. You go like

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Speaker 1: enormous size on one side, speed and separation and quickness

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02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 1: on the other side. And you see how the defense

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02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:17,320
Speaker 1: reacts that. Who you're gonna put over there on You're

2431
02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:19,839
Speaker 1: gonna put a line walk a linebacker round on Cole Beasley,

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02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:24,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose. You're gonna You're gonna match up size

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02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:26,960
Speaker 1: and how deep do they go again? You're gonna force

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02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:30,760
Speaker 1: them to go deep in their secondary. I still like

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Speaker 1: that group, you know, I mean, it's it's a lot

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02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:36,960
Speaker 1: of fun to think about and I and I should

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02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 1: mention this too, and I only say this, and I

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02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 1: don't pretend to be a trained guy like you know

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02:08:42,920 --> 02:08:46,040
Speaker 1: NFL scouts do. But during the pandemic, I had a

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02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:47,760
Speaker 1: lot of time to watch tape, and I watched a

2441
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:50,560
Speaker 1: lot of Isaiah Hodgins college tape and even though he

2442
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:54,440
Speaker 1: is not a speed receiver, he is a separator. He

2443
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:59,200
Speaker 1: is a separator, so sizes an asset that he possesses,

2444
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 1: but separation and is something that he also has in

2445
02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:03,680
Speaker 1: his arsenal, even though he is not a speed guy.

2446
02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:08,520
Speaker 1: And it's size receivers and side big time tight ends

2447
02:09:08,560 --> 02:09:10,920
Speaker 1: and guys like that are really good obviously in the

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02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:14,080
Speaker 1: red zone. Which also if you're down close in the

2449
02:09:14,120 --> 02:09:16,240
Speaker 1: red zone, and the closer you get to goal to

2450
02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:21,720
Speaker 1: go situations, the more like and the more like short yardage.

2451
02:09:21,760 --> 02:09:23,400
Speaker 1: It becomes right where you just want to get the

2452
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:25,560
Speaker 1: first down where it's fourth and one or third and

2453
02:09:25,680 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 1: one or third and a half. And when you get big, big, tall,

2454
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 1: high guys, you know guys that can go up and

2455
02:09:33,640 --> 02:09:39,080
Speaker 1: get it. With a guy like Josh, he just rolled

2456
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:40,560
Speaker 1: him out and you get those guys, they go out

2457
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 1: past the sticks, turn around, and you got these four

2458
02:09:42,840 --> 02:09:45,000
Speaker 1: big targets right there. He just picks the one that's

2459
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:47,520
Speaker 1: got the most separation. Yeah, flicks the ball to him.

2460
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:50,840
Speaker 1: Let's go first and ten, let's go. You become really

2461
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 1: effective and crucial down and distance, and that's situational football

2462
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:57,640
Speaker 1: that if if you win those, you become a really

2463
02:09:57,680 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 1: good football team, unexponentially better football team just because of it.

2464
02:10:01,880 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 1: From Patrick, do you think that old line is a

2465
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:10,080
Speaker 1: bigger need before replacing Milano? I would say yes, because

2466
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:12,360
Speaker 1: of the volume of people you have to replace on

2467
02:10:12,400 --> 02:10:16,280
Speaker 1: the offensive. Absolutely. Absolutely, you got gotten. You played without

2468
02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:20,040
Speaker 1: Milano eight games this year and you were thirteen and three.

2469
02:10:20,840 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 1: So you can't go thirteen and three if you only

2470
02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 1: have a center and a left tackle. Yeah, you're gonna

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02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:31,240
Speaker 1: go oh and sixteen. And let's not forget what Milano was.

2472
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:33,760
Speaker 1: He was a fifth round draft choice that blossomed into,

2473
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, a top end player. That's certainly he played

2474
02:10:36,160 --> 02:10:39,120
Speaker 1: better than a fifth rounder, absolutely, but athletically he's still

2475
02:10:39,120 --> 02:10:42,760
Speaker 1: a fifth rounder. And athletically you could argue that linebackers

2476
02:10:42,800 --> 02:10:45,600
Speaker 1: are running around in rounds one, two, three, and four

2477
02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 1: in more plentiful supply and better offensive tackles are faster

2478
02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:54,960
Speaker 1: and bigger than him. Yeah. Uh. With Brandon being known

2479
02:10:55,040 --> 02:10:57,000
Speaker 1: to be aggressive in the draft, if he doesn't find

2480
02:10:57,040 --> 02:10:58,440
Speaker 1: a player in the first round, do you think he

2481
02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:00,200
Speaker 1: will trade back to get more draft picks if he

2482
02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:02,360
Speaker 1: can't find that impact player in free agency? Since we

2483
02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:07,160
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of salary Brandon's history is trading up,

2484
02:11:07,960 --> 02:11:11,000
Speaker 1: not down, and you do have holes to fill. I

2485
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:13,360
Speaker 1: don't think there's any question about that. But this roster

2486
02:11:13,520 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 1: is more advanced. I still think he might be more

2487
02:11:17,640 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 1: apt to trade up than down. It's not off the table.

2488
02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:23,840
Speaker 1: Nothing's off the table. I think Brandon's creative enough to

2489
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:25,720
Speaker 1: know and have a plan for so if it happens

2490
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:28,120
Speaker 1: to that, yes, I would say, yeah, the possibility is

2491
02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:30,160
Speaker 1: there for him to trade down. I doubt that he will.

2492
02:11:30,200 --> 02:11:32,680
Speaker 1: You rare if it is. If he does, it'll be

2493
02:11:32,800 --> 02:11:35,400
Speaker 1: like usual, It'll be like three spots. I think if

2494
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:39,840
Speaker 1: he trades down, it's only because, as Scott mentioned, it's

2495
02:11:39,880 --> 02:11:43,200
Speaker 1: because they did. They were very minimalistic in free agency.

2496
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:45,040
Speaker 1: Free agency went the way they wanted to. If he

2497
02:11:45,080 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 1: trades down, and then he might think in more of

2498
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 1: a volume approach in the draft at that point, you yes, depending,

2499
02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:55,120
Speaker 1: It all depends on how free agency goes as to

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02:11:55,160 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 1: whether he trades up or down. But nothing's off the table.

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02:11:57,720 --> 02:12:00,560
Speaker 1: But the free agency is key. Break time for us

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Speaker 1: one more segment as we close it up with what

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02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:05,720
Speaker 1: we have learned from today's show. That's next here on

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, presented by Kalid to health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio time for what have we learned from today's show?

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Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills and Steve. We unfortunately learned

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02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:38,360
Speaker 1: today that Tiger Woods was in a single car accident

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02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:44,640
Speaker 1: this morning in California. His agent, Mark Steinberg, just released

2510
02:12:44,680 --> 02:12:47,320
Speaker 1: a statement with updated information. It said Tiger Woods was

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02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:49,840
Speaker 1: in a single car accident this morning in California where

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02:12:49,840 --> 02:12:53,720
Speaker 1: he suffered multiple leg injuries. He is currently in surgery

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02:12:54,160 --> 02:12:57,280
Speaker 1: and we thank you for your privacy and support. Single

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02:12:57,360 --> 02:13:02,560
Speaker 1: car accident, but the police or fire department that got

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02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:04,560
Speaker 1: on the scene had to use the jaws of life

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02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:08,320
Speaker 1: to extricate Tiger Woods from the vehicle. He's already had

2517
02:13:08,680 --> 02:13:12,920
Speaker 1: multiple back surgeries, multiple leg injuries requiring surgery. Jeez. I

2518
02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:16,360
Speaker 1: mean thoughts and prayers to h Tiger and his family.

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02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:18,560
Speaker 1: And we have no idea how severe those injuries are.

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02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:23,400
Speaker 1: Obviously there there to some extent pretty severe. I just

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Speaker 1: every every time you wake up like that, because I'm

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Speaker 1: on the through operations myself. Obviously I'm because of my

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Speaker 1: football career. You wake ups in man, you just think

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Speaker 1: about how long it takes to come back, It is

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Speaker 1: just and he was already in a back, as we said,

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Speaker 1: injury situation where people were wondering if he was going

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Speaker 1: to play, you know, the next couple events on the schedule. Yeah, tough.

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Speaker 1: That's too bad. Tough. So hopefully I hope he's all

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Speaker 1: right and can recover in due course. Steve and I

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Speaker 1: are back with a Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: We'll have Jimmy Trainer on the show, so we look

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Speaker 1: forward to talking to him and plenty more in store.

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Speaker 1: So join us tomorrow at noon here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. As always, it's Buffalo Bills Radio.