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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the

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Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with new Ravens defensive coordinator Zach Or. Congrats, Zach,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it, thank you. So what's the emotions you know

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm excited, I'm excited, thankful, grateful, a lot of emotions,

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Speaker 2: but I would just say excited and determined are the

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Speaker 2: two things I would I would describe it. Man.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's it's been surreal.

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Speaker 2: I'm thankful and grateful, excited that the organization and coach

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Speaker 2: Harball that have trusted me for this position, and now

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Speaker 2: I'm determined to you know, go get the job done

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Speaker 2: and and helping any way I can.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about kind of

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Speaker 1: how it went down, what the process was like?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, so you know, unfortunately lost Sunday afternoon to

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Speaker 2: to interview with Green Bay. Obviously, you know, we got

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Speaker 2: you know, Denard Wilson's getting interviews, Mike Chris Hewitt, Anthony Weaver.

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Speaker 2: So it's things are going kind of fast. Can't even

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Speaker 2: really process what happened. You know that Sunday, came in,

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Speaker 2: watched the film on Monday, and then started getting interviews,

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Speaker 2: and man, it was like a whirlwind from Monday to Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: like interviews, conversations, you know, guys getting hired and everything.

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Speaker 2: And then I just remember coach calling me to his office.

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Speaker 2: Coach Harborm was like, I'm offering.

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Speaker 3: You the position. Do you want it?

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Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, you know, so, man, it's been

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Speaker 2: a whirlwind, but it's been great.

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Speaker 3: It's been great. It's been great.

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Speaker 4: Did you you literally accepted it on the spot right there?

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Speaker 3: I did? I did.

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Speaker 2: I was like, man, what I'm gonna say? No, you know,

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Speaker 2: let me think about it. So, you know, it was

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Speaker 2: just it was I think it was just a great opportunity,

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Speaker 2: especially being here. Man, Like I tell people all the time,

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Speaker 2: like I bleed purple and black like this this organization,

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Speaker 2: it means something a little different to me. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's just not like any other place, you know. And

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Speaker 2: obviously people who've left, obviously, like Mike has some great

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Speaker 2: friends with him as one of my guys, love him

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Speaker 2: for life. You know, was thought of potentially going with him,

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Speaker 2: but you know, he understood, he understands and understood you know,

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Speaker 2: this is a special place and this means it means.

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Speaker 3: A lot to me right here. Man. So I had

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Speaker 3: an opportunity to stay. I couldn't leave. I wasn't leaveing nowhere.

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Speaker 5: Mike was Mike lobbying him.

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Speaker 2: How hard he working, you know, he was lobbying, but

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Speaker 2: you know he knows like it's gonna it was gonna

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Speaker 2: be danger impossible for me to get for me to

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Speaker 2: leave this place, you know, like I said, it means

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Speaker 2: the most to me right here. His organization, I felt like,

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Speaker 2: has always been there for me. Even everybody knows about

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Speaker 2: what happened in you know, twenty seventeen and all that,

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Speaker 2: but even before then, like I'm thinking back going to

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Speaker 2: the draft process when I'm coming out as a UDFA

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Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there mad and everything. You know, felt

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Speaker 2: like I should have been drafted, you know, not early,

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Speaker 2: the first people who called me was people from the

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Speaker 2: organization of Baltimore Ravens. So it's just like, man, it

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Speaker 2: just means something different to me here man.

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we want to talk about obviously your

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Speaker 4: connection here to this organization goes beyond just your time

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Speaker 4: as a coach obviously as a player, and just hearing

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Speaker 4: you talk about it, it's clear to me that like

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Speaker 4: It is a lot of that driven by your time

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, it is. It definitely is.

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Speaker 2: And I just like I honestly feel like they've always

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Speaker 2: this organization has always picked me up kind of in

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Speaker 2: my some of my lowest moments, you know, as a

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Speaker 2: professional athlete. Like I said, when I was coming into

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Speaker 2: the draft, I was going I went undrafted and you know,

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Speaker 2: First person that caused me is somebody scout from the

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Speaker 2: and if you do what you do, you can make it.

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Speaker 3: Boom. I said, I'm all my way.

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Speaker 2: And then and you know obviously what happened when I

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Speaker 2: gonna do next. And you know, coach Harball mister Bushatti.

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Speaker 2: You know, they called me and say, I know you

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Speaker 2: want to get into coaching. We would love to have

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Speaker 2: So just this place right here, man, and and then

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Speaker 2: but beyond that, just the values, the values, the principles

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Speaker 2: being being an upstanding person, a family person, a person

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Speaker 2: that's showing love right, person who works hard. And then

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Speaker 2: obviously from a football standpoint, I.

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Speaker 3: Just love the style here.

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Speaker 2: Iss just you know, physical, playing violent, playing together, no nonsense.

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Speaker 2: No matter where we're playing at, no matter who we're playing,

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Speaker 3: So it's like the perfect match.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, the combination of all those things like that,

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Speaker 2: like I said, this play is a special This this

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Speaker 1: I want to get We're definitely gonna get into your

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Speaker 1: backstory more because it is a wild story. But before

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Speaker 1: we get to that, I think fans would definitely want

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Speaker 1: to know what's this defense gonna look like, understand, what

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Speaker 1: are you taking from Mike, what are you taking from

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Speaker 1: your experience as a player, and how does that gonna

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, every every office.

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Speaker 2: I think what's made just this organization great and just

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Speaker 2: kind of this scheme a very good that people want

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Speaker 3: Were always trying to evolve and look.

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Speaker 2: So we look at what we did well, what things

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Speaker 3: So you know we're gonna be in the process of

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Speaker 2: But you know, just to tell you what it's gonna

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Speaker 3: We're gonna play with maximum effort.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna play hard, We're gonna play physical, violent, all right,

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Speaker 2: we hit anything that moves and we'll go hit you

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Speaker 3: We start there.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna we're gonna execute, you know, be

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna see a group that's gonna play together.

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Speaker 2: So just to really kind of sum it up, I

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Speaker 2: I said, everything we're gonna do is gonna it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be violent out there. We're gonna we're gonna run to

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Speaker 2: that's what we That's what I feel like we're gonna go.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna see it sounds like Baltimore exactly.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like it sounds like Beyond.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, definitely, definitely. We have those conversations all

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Speaker 2: the time a lot. It's you know, it's about a mindset,

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Speaker 2: that's all you can ask for. And it just makes

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Speaker 4: So it'zach, You're now the second youngest defensive coordinator in

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Speaker 4: the NFL, thirty one years old, and you know, this

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Speaker 5: Make me feel old. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 3: That's all good. You know, it's first time for everything. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 3: So thank you for that. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: But what does that mean to you?

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's got to be something significant to have

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Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I mean, I guess it's

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Speaker 2: But honestly, me personally, I really don't, you know, I

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Speaker 4: Kind of the I guess the flip side of that

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Speaker 4: a lot of ways, but one of them is play

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Speaker 4: to approach that. It will be first time calling plays

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Speaker 4: on game day. Now, when you were players, you would

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, it's a big responsibility and everything. And I think

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Speaker 2: what helped me out is I have guys like you know,

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Speaker 2: my when I was in Jacksonville, had guys tell me, like,

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Speaker 2: prepare like you would be a play call it because

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Speaker 2: you never know when you get the opportunity. So I've

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Speaker 2: and we have a wonderful staff here. Obviously last year

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Speaker 2: led by Mike that we we game plan together.

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Speaker 3: It was collaborative and everything.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, you know, the coordinator has the final you know,

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Speaker 2: say so on what we're gonna do, but just being collaborative,

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Speaker 3: So I think that helped me out a lot.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, it's gonna be some things that you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: You get into it.

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Speaker 3: So that's what that's what I am.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I really focus on.

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Speaker 3: Easily and everybody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think all three people sit on this cause

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Speaker 2: And those guys just went to work, man, And they

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Speaker 2: you know, praying with me, praying for me. Best friends

437
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 2: did the same thing. And then you know, obviously when

438
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,919
Speaker 2: I when when the organization found the news, they were

439
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 2: very supportive. But it was, it was it was very tough.

440
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,159
Speaker 2: My mind was like you know, it was it was,

441
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 2: it was racing. It was a tough. It was a

442
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,640
Speaker 2: tough pill to swallow. But like I said, man, having

443
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 2: a strong support system started with my family and friends

444
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 2: and then obviously it's organization. Man, it helped me get

445
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 2: through it. And my brother said something to me that

446
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,359
Speaker 2: always stuck with my older brother. He said that don't ask.

447
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 2: Don't ask, guy, Why ask what's next? And I think

448
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,800
Speaker 2: I said that in my in my press conference when

449
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,360
Speaker 2: when the news broke, and you know, my mind kind

450
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:48,919
Speaker 2: of switched to that.

451
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:49,160
Speaker 3: Now.

452
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,240
Speaker 2: It was tough the first, you know, first year, because

453
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,959
Speaker 2: you obviously feel like you could still play and you're

454
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 2: supposed to be out there. But as time went on, man,

455
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 2: like you know I'm fully invested into the coaching lifestyle,

456
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 2: and believe it or not, I have no interest in

457
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 2: tackling nobody for real. So it's crazy and it's crazy.

458
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,719
Speaker 2: I've gotten to that point. I never thought I get

459
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 2: to that point. I have no I have no interest

460
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 2: in tackling nobody.

461
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 3: I look at the somebody I'm looking. I'm looking.

462
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that looks like it hurts. I can't

463
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 2: believe I did that. I'm fully on that side of things.

464
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, So it was a crazy range of

465
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 2: emotions and and and and I did get to the

466
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 2: point where I was like, man, it is crazy situation,

467
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 2: but I want you know, people go through stuff all

468
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 2: the time, and if I can, if I can show

469
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 2: that you can make something great out of this situation, man,

470
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 2: and be an inspiration. I did kind of start starting

471
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 2: to want to do that, and that that does help

472
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,360
Speaker 2: drive and motivate me, because you know, people with life,

473
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,640
Speaker 2: life tough, life gonna knock you, pick you up, knock

474
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 2: you down, and you know, it's always tough when people

475
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 2: get knocked down and they stay down, you know what

476
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 2: I mean. And I think you know, you show people

477
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 2: if you got the strength and the courage and the

478
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Speaker 2: support to to get get knocked down and get back

479
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 2: up and elevate. I think that can inspire somebody. And

480
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 2: as long as it inspires somebody, you know, to keep

481
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 2: going and not let life keep them down. Shoot, man,

482
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: I feel like that's part of my purpose while I'm

483
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Speaker 2: here on this earth.

484
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 4: So take me through the when that news breaks and

485
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 4: you have to come to the harsh reality that, like

486
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 4: your NFL careers over right, as it's ascending, you announce

487
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 4: your retirement, and then the ravens, how does it work

488
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 4: that you ultimately end up working here on the coaching

489
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 4: staff and you were also working in personnel initially? Correct? Like,

490
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 4: take me tell me the story of what went on

491
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 4: behind the scenes to ultimately get the job.

492
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I had mentioned like I remember when I

493
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 2: first got here. I was, I was talking. I was like,

494
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, I my mind think I'm gonna play ten, ten,

495
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 2: fifteen years, and then I was gonna go back home

496
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: getting the high school football coach and thinking I was

497
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 2: gonna make.

498
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 3: You know, enough money and just you know, whatever be good.

499
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 2: So you know, people knew I how interest in you know,

500
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 2: just people that you know talk to me knew how

501
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,919
Speaker 2: to interest in, you know, coach and everything. So obviously

502
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: when the news happened, everything hardball coach Harbes was like,

503
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, I know you got interest in coaching. It'll

504
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 2: be great, you know if you want to, you know,

505
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: do this, do this with us. I'm gonna talk to

506
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 2: Ozzy and mister Pushatti. So one day I'm sitting at

507
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: the house back in Texas and my phone rings and

508
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: it's mister Pushatti and he was like, hey, how you doing.

509
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: I was like I'm doing good.

510
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 2: He's like, well, I heard you wanted to, you know,

511
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: get into coaching. And I was like yeah, and he

512
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: was like, well, you're gonna be a raven. You're gonna

513
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 2: be up here with us. And I was like all right, great.

514
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: So he was like, we'll get you set up with

515
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 2: you know, Harbes and Ozzy and you know, get it

516
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: figured out.

517
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: So, you know, a couple of weeks and stuff.

518
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: And going by, I'm like calling Ozzy like hey, IZI

519
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: you know, hey, what's going on with you?

520
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 4: Guys?

521
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: Like look, just take your time for rehab. We're gonna

522
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 3: get you. We're gonna get you together, get set up.

523
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 2: So that summer I came right I came back up

524
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Speaker 2: right the beginning, like during the middle or beginning of

525
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: training camp, and you know Izzy, you know, we talked

526
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: and everything. He was like, uh, you know this transition period,

527
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: what do you want to get into. You want to

528
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 2: getting coach in the scout And I'm like, I don't

529
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: kind of you know, I really don't know. I want

530
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: to kind of experiment with both. And so he was like, okay,

531
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 2: we'll start you off on both. So Bull went right

532
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: to the season. I was helping out with assisting the coaches,

533
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 2: doing everything, and quite honestly, it was quite evident like

534
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 2: I was probably gonna be a coach because I was

535
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: I was into it, you know what I mean. I

536
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: liked being on the grass, being close to it and

537
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: everything of that nature. And then in the off season

538
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: I've kind of just did did some projects for the

539
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: personnel side, you know, watch different positions, wrote different reports

540
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: on different different positions, not necessarily just linebackers or defense,

541
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 2: did it for receivers, running backs, and all the things

542
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: of that kind of nature.

543
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Speaker 3: And as he was like, you know, just take a

544
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 3: year or two, see what you see, what you want

545
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: to do.

546
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: And it became evident probably after the first year that

547
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: I'm a you know, transition to coach a side full time.

548
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 3: So that's that's how it ended up working out.

549
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 4: Cool.

550
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: What was it about? How did you catch the bug?

551
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: What was it about coaching where you knew so fast?

552
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

553
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 5: This is gonna be it for me.

554
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 4: Man.

555
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: It's just like just you just you, you right there.

556
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You basically prepared me obviously.

557
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 3: Now let me put it like this.

558
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 2: The hours a lot longer as as a coach than

559
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: a player. Let's start there, hours a lot longer.

560
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 5: And that didn't scare you off.

561
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it did scare me off. And it didn't scare

562
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: me off. It didn't care me off. I got used

563
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: to it.

564
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: But I mean, you right there, man, just the preparation,

565
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: you know, the camaraderie, being part of the team in

566
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: the meeting rooms all you know, all day every day

567
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: on the practice field, doing the drills. You're basically doing

568
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: everything besides going out there hitting people.

569
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, A lot closer to you

570
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: being a player, which you would actually so recently.

571
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: Exactly.

572
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 5: It's a pretty big.

573
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, it's a pretty big change.

574
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 2: It's pretty big change, and you know, they they definitely

575
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: part of the team, They got a big part of it.

576
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 2: But as far as being in the meeting rooms right

577
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: there with the players, you know what I mean, as

578
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: a coach, you got you get that experience every day,

579
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: you know, all day. So that just kind of gravitated

580
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: towards that. I was like, Yeah, this is this is

581
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: me right here. I gotta I gotta be in the

582
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: thick of things.

583
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Speaker 1: How was that first year when it probably at that

584
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: point you still were interested in tackling people.

585
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know how difficult was that? Flipping that mindset?

586
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: That was tough, just because, like you got to think

587
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: about it.

588
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 2: Shoot, at least half of the team was my teammates just.

589
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 3: Six months ago, you know what I mean.

590
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: So just seeing those guys prepare going to battle, and

591
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm like, man, I can help these

592
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 2: guys out, man Like from a physical standpoint, like I

593
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: want to go out there and tackle people to help

594
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: line the people up communicate. You know, it was it

595
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: was tough, especially those big games, especially those rivalry games

596
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: against you know, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, Cleveland or those primetime games.

597
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 3: It would hit you, you know, it would hit you for real.

598
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: But you know, as time you get you adapt and

599
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 2: you you know, you you get better with it. But

600
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: that first year was the toughest year for sure, because

601
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: I was like, I know, I can knock some heads

602
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: off and some stuff right now, you know, at least

603
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: in my mind. I know what the doctor said, but

604
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: I know what I could do, you know what I mean.

605
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 2: But so the first year was real tough.

606
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. I think that a lot of times

607
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 4: from come to the end of their careers, they often

608
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 4: talk about I want to be a coach, and I

609
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 4: think that sometimes a guys don't necessarily recognize the hours

610
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: you kind of joked about that. But the other thing

611
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 4: that I think is a challenge and it was probably

612
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 4: even more significant for you because you were so young.

613
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 4: You were what were you twenty four twenty four years

614
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 4: old when your career comes to an end, and so

615
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 4: is navigating the transition from you were once in the

616
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 4: locker room one of the guys and now you're a coach.

617
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 4: You're still friends, but you're you're not a peer.

618
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: You're not a peer. You're you're you're you're a coach.

619
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and so it's like you're not hanging

620
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 4: out in the same way, You're not joking in the

621
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 4: same way exactly, And so how did you Navi? And

622
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: I think that like that is a tougher transition than

623
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 4: people necessarily realize. How did you go about making that

624
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: transition from peer to now you're a coach?

625
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's definitely it's definitely a tough transition.

626
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't think about.

627
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: But I think just the way I've always operated, let's

628
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: just go about even as I was as a player,

629
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: right as a teammate, Boom, we're friends, We're hanging out.

630
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: By the end of the day, we got a job

631
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: to do.

632
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: We're here for one reason ultimately, and that's to help

633
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: this organization win football games, help ultimately win the big game,

634
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: you know, Holystadt Lombardi Trophy. So I kind of took

635
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: that same as a coach, like look man, like Boom,

636
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: we might be same a some of you guys might

637
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: be older than me, right, but I got a job

638
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: to do as a coach, and this is my job

639
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: do is help you guys, that help prepare, we hold

640
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: each other accountable, things of that nature, all the details

641
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: that come with being a coach, because ultimately, that's what

642
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: we're here for.

643
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: That's what I'm here for. And I think when.

644
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: Guys see that, when gods see that you're prepared, you're

645
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: helping them. You're helping them out from that perspective. As

646
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: a coach, you're holding them accountable. You're, you know, helping

647
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: them do whatever they need to do on game day.

648
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: They respect it. They don't care what you look like,

649
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: how old you are, what's your background. You can help

650
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: me go out there on Sunday and play to the

651
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: best of my abilities. Man, you got my respect as

652
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: a coach. And I think when when people when when

653
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: players see that boom, they respect, they respect the position.

654
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: And guys, guys, guys did that. They did that for me. Now.

655
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: My man, Terrell Suggs, he always used to walk by

656
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: and tell me you'll never be one of them. You

657
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: always be a player like you know. But but but

658
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: but they respect that many respect. I don't know he

659
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: might have, Man, I'm gla I got like eight hundred

660
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: something messages man, so it's maybe. Man, all the people

661
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: who text me, if I haven't got back to you,

662
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: I promise you I'm not switching up.

663
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: I'm not changing up.

664
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: They get big headed but yeah, man, but going back

665
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: to your point, you know, all the players wants is

666
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: somebody who can help them get better. And I think

667
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: as a coach, if you put in the work, you study,

668
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: you prepare, you you you cover all the loose ends,

669
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: and you present the information, you present the drills and

670
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: everything of that nature you know, to the player and

671
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: and and they see that you're helping them get better,

672
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: that you're helping them, you know, take little nuggets that

673
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: they might have not seen before, may not thought about.

674
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: And they see that you put into work, the real work.

675
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: They respect you. So I think I think I did that.

676
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: I always try to do that. And you know that

677
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: they've respected the position no matter how you know, it's

678
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of times I was coaching

679
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: guys older than me. This might have been the first year.

680
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: This might have been the first year that you know, coach. Yeah,

681
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: I'm not coaching nobody older than me now, as.

682
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: Josh kept coming back, Yeah, Josh came back. That was crazy.

683
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: He came back and I was like, man, this is crazy.

684
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: Like I'm coaching a guy who I was a rookie.

685
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: He was one of my mentors. And it was good man,

686
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: and and credit to Josh Man like.

687
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: He just like he's the first. He's smart, obviously the

688
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: hell of a player.

689
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: But I think he saw that I was prepared and uh,

690
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: you know, I was on my stuff. I was on point,

691
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: and I put it into work. It was continue to

692
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: put into work each day and uh, day in day out,

693
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: and they respect it. And that's that's what it's about.

694
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: And and but it for it's been a good thing.

695
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: But I think I like about it though. I like

696
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: the challenge because it forced to be on point. Because

697
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: if you're not on point, still gonna be looking at you, like,

698
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: what are you talking about?

699
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,239
Speaker 3: You know that ain't what is that?

700
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: Now?

701
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 3: You don't get no respect, you don't. You lose credibility.

702
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: So I kind of like the challenge of me kind

703
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: of being young and having to be on point, because

704
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: you know, guys are gonna gonna challenge that if you

705
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: if you don't come in with the with the right

706
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: uh information and the right mindset and the right organization

707
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: and things of that nature.

708
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: How did your playing career ending early motivate you in

709
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: your coaching career.

710
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: It motivated me.

711
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: It motivated I honestly did, because I always want to

712
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: be in a national part and that's football league. Like

713
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: growing up, I'm telling you, like my people, my parents

714
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: will always ask me, people would I would ask me,

715
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: what do you want to do being as an NFL

716
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: football player?

717
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: And some people, you know, like, yeah, that's great. I

718
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: support that. To some people be like, well, what else

719
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: you go? You're not harder to make the NFL?

720
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

721
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: And people always say teachers and everything like that, and

722
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, I get it, I said, but I'm gonna

723
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: tell you what. I'm gonna work my butt off and

724
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: do everything to get there and do it. And so

725
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: I ended up working out, but me as a player

726
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: in my career got cut so short.

727
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I could like, this is not

728
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: what I envisioned.

729
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: I envisioning me being International Football League and maybe not

730
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: not as a player.

731
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: Now I got an opportunity to do it as a coach.

732
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: Let me dive in fully into that and take advantage

733
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: of this opportunity, because it's not an opportunity that everybody's

734
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: specifically at my age, can get, and I got the opportunity.

735
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: So I was like, man, I'm gonna be in the

736
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: National Football League. And I just kind of took that mindset,

737
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: but it definitely motivated me a lot because I felt

738
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: like after three years, I couldn't be three years in the.

739
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: League and be just just done with it. I had

740
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: more work.

741
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: I just love the challenge of being at the top

742
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: level and competing at the top level.

743
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the last one for me, Zach. You

744
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 4: to that motivation point, Like you're kind of a master motivator,

745
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: I think, And when you tell the story of putting

746
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: the list up on the board and showing PQ and

747
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 4: Roquan and talking about that like that, I think it's

748
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: something that drives guys. So what's on that list for

749
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 4: you as you go into this job, and you know,

750
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: what are you using as a motivation, not necessarily for

751
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 4: your players this year, but for you in this new role.

752
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: Just the challenge. The just the challenge, man, Just the challenge.

753
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: And first thing first is like, man, I want to

754
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: win a championship. I want to win a championship here

755
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: man in Baltimore. I want to win a Super Bowl

756
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: and to do that you got to play great defense.

757
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: So now I'm tasked with a bigger responsibility of that.

758
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: That's my number one motivation right there. We got to

759
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: play great defense if we want to get to where

760
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: we want to get to at the end of the day,

761
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: which is being the last team remained in all right,

762
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: remaining in the deal, in the league, hosting the Lombardy.

763
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: So that's the number one motivation for me, is like

764
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: for us to do that. I know, we got to

765
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: handle business on the defensive side of things, and I'm

766
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: tasked with a big responsibility of how it's gonna look.

767
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 3: So that's my number one motivation all right. Now.

768
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: Besides that is just you know, I'm just competitive, you

769
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: know competitive.

770
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: I want to be the best I can be.

771
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: I want my guys to be the best they can

772
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: be coaches and players, So my motivation is to help

773
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 2: them be the best player they can be. Like well,

774
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: I always talk about maximizing. My job as a coach

775
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: is to maximize your value and extend your career. So

776
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: what I mean by that is, I want you to

777
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: make as much money as you can make. I want

778
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: you to get all the accolades you can get. As

779
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: an individual player, I want you to be the best

780
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: player you can be. I want you the best player

781
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: you can be. I want to extend your career if

782
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: you if you want to play ten years, God will

783
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: in twelve years. I want you to play as long

784
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: as you want to. I want you to leave on

785
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: your terms if you got to say so, not because

786
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: somebody says you can't play no more. Right, And I

787
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: honestly believe if we can get those two things done,

788
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna be the best football player you can be.

789
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: That's gonna help us win a championship because now you're

790
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: the best player you can be at your position. Boom,

791
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 2: you get eleven guys doing that, you have a hell

792
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: of a team. So now I'm tasked with a bigger

793
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: responsibility that not just a smaller group of guys. Now

794
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 2: it's the whole defense. But it's still the same mindset.

795
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: That's my motivation. Like I honestly tell my guys, like

796
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: I told the linebackers, I said, I never thought I'd

797
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: have more fun coaching football than playing football, And I said,

798
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: this year, I have more fun coach.

799
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: This is most fun I had my life with football.

800
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: And I honestly genuinely want to see guys succeed. You

801
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: know what I mean, because I understand how hard they work.

802
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: I understand the sacrifice that it takes to get to

803
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: that level. I understand adversity you got to go through

804
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: to be a great player. So I'm trying to bring

805
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: that out of the guys. That's my motivation. So top two,

806
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: off the top of my head, I know we got

807
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: to play a great defense if we want to win

808
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: the championship. So that's number one motivation. I'm tasked with

809
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: responsibility with that. Number two is I want to maximize

810
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: these guys value. I want these guys to become the

811
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: best players they can possibly be, best players they could

812
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: possibly be. So it's my job to help put those

813
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: guys in position to do that, to help make the

814
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 2: scheme whatever we're doing simple and easy for them to

815
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: understand so they can go out there to execute at

816
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: a high level and play fast.

817
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: All right.

818
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: And then besides that, man is just you know, I know,

819
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: I understand the position I'm in, Just the opportunity I

820
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 2: got as a former player, you know, getting this opportunity

821
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 2: at a young age, Like we talked about, just trying

822
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: to trying to put on and show that you know,

823
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 2: with this opportunity, we can we can do great things.

824
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: We can't get the job done, we can lead, we

825
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: can we can orchestrate a defense and execute at a

826
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: high level. So that that's the that's it right there

827
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: off the top of my head.

828
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: Well, well, I think it's cool that you say, you know,

829
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: you want to help these players be able to end

830
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: their careers on their terms. Yeah, because you didn't get

831
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: that out of city, right, And if I were to

832
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: tell you, you know that that day when you were

833
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: in the doctor's office and they said, hey, man, you

834
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: got to stop playing football or you might die out there,

835
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: and then say, you know, fast forward what six years

836
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: later and say you're defensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens.

837
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 5: Like, how wild is that in your mind?

838
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: Man?

839
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 3: It's wild. It's wild.

840
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: It's wild when you think about like the whole situation

841
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: and how it all unfolded. Uh, it's it's a wild thought.

842
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: But I'm honestly, I'm not surprised just because man, I've worked, man,

843
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I put in work. I

844
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: just kept my head down, you know, and just continue

845
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 2: to prepare. But it's it's wild, man, Like I could

846
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: possibly still be playing you know what I mean, Like

847
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: i'ld be going into the eleventh year of playing ball.

848
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: But it is, it is wild.

849
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: I'm like dang man, just that to happen to now

850
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: where I'm at now, I'm just so thankful and grateful

851
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: for you know, the opportunity and the support I've received.

852
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: But it is wild, It's wild, but not shocking. Wow.

853
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 5: Cool, Well thanks Zach.

854
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 3: Really appreciated man. Thank you. It's always good chopping up

855
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: with you.

856
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 5: Guys multi time.

857
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I'm getting up there for agance is now

858
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: exactly I'm gonna need a little some now cool.

859
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,120
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Speaker 4: things out with Zach multi time lounge guests. He's one

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Speaker 4: of our all time faves. I loved him as a

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Speaker 4: player and it's been awesome to see his rise as

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Speaker 4: a coach. And I think the Ravens got a I

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Speaker 4: think John Harbo made a great hire with promoting Zach

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Speaker 4: and I think he's gonna I think he's gonna thrive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very excited to see what he's gonna bring

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Speaker 1: to this defense. I mean, I think we talked last

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Speaker 1: week about how Zach was just one of our favorite

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Speaker 1: people in the building and just an awesome guy, and

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Speaker 1: now viewers and listeners get to see that, right. I Mean,

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Speaker 1: he just has this infectious energy about him that he's

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Speaker 1: just such an optimistic, positive, energetic guy, upbeat, right, and

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Speaker 1: and that's infectious. You see that in the cafeteria when

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Speaker 1: you go.

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Speaker 5: Through the salad bar and he says hi to you, right.

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Speaker 1: I Mean, he's just got that energy about him, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's what inspires his players. That's what he's

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Speaker 1: also just he could tell by the way he describes

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Speaker 1: how this defense is going to play with that physical

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Speaker 1: nature like he's a he's got that dog mindset too.

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Speaker 1: You can tell that they're still deep down in there.

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Speaker 1: There's a little player there, right, and both those things

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Speaker 1: just being a great guy, being a great motivator, that

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Speaker 1: energy that he has. I think that we saw that

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Speaker 1: through Rokwan Smith and Patrick Queen to a degree this season.

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Speaker 5: Those guys are great players.

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Speaker 1: They were great players before they started working with Zach.

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Speaker 5: You know, they're just great players.

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Speaker 1: But I will say that this year there was a

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Speaker 1: bit and even once Roquon came on board, there's a

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Speaker 1: different energy about them, and I think that that in

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Speaker 1: part can be credited to Zach Orr. You know, they

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Speaker 1: a they just played really well, and I think that

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Speaker 1: there was just a different edge to them that Zach

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Speaker 1: helped instill a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean infectious is a good word for I

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Speaker 4: think the vibe around Zach like. I think that's part

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Speaker 4: of the reason when his playing career was over that

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Speaker 4: the Ravens was like, you know what, I don't really

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Speaker 4: want this guy to leave the building.

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Speaker 3: I want him here. I just felt like.

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Speaker 4: He's too much of an additive to this building, this

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Speaker 4: organization to just let him walk out the door. Tragically,

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Speaker 4: when his career comes to an end sooner than anybody expected, right,

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Speaker 4: And so I think that's part of the reason why

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Speaker 4: the Ravens wanted him here, and that's why he's risen

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Speaker 4: up the ranks this year where he basically has three

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Speaker 4: defensive coordinator interviews, you know here Seattle and Green Bay

920
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Speaker 4: and so young guy, but well deserved, and I think

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Speaker 4: that I really think he's gonna be. I think it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be a great defensive coordinator. Yes, there's going to

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Speaker 4: be a learning curve, Yes, it's going to be some

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Speaker 4: new challenges. But like this is a guy who I

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Speaker 4: you know, That's why I asked him the question about

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Speaker 4: the motivation piece, like undrafted then comes goes goes on

927
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Speaker 4: to be an all pro, you know, career cut short

928
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Speaker 4: transitions to coaching or personnel. Then a few years later

929
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Speaker 4: position coach. Now what's seven years later, defensive coordinator. So

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Speaker 4: he's rising. I mean, I just think that, like in

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Speaker 4: any situ, people.

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Speaker 1: Are already saying Eric Takasta said, we see future head

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Speaker 1: coaching this guy right before day one of the job.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: You don't hear that.

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Speaker 4: Very often, Yeah, exactly, And so I just think that,

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Speaker 4: like he is somebody I think in any situation who's

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Speaker 4: going to succeed. And I think that this one is

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Speaker 4: no different. So I'm fired up about him. I think

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Speaker 4: the Ravens made made a great call with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's learned from Mike McDonald past two years.

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Speaker 1: I understand certainly being upset about losing Mike right. Hey,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do about it. When you have

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Speaker 1: a great year like the Ravens did you and you're

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Speaker 1: as sharp as Mike is and as great a coach

946
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Speaker 1: as he is, he's gonna get promotion opportunities. And but

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Speaker 1: Zach Orr was really kind of his right hand man

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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Coach the linebacker's that group

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Speaker 1: really sets the tone for the Ravens defense. And Zach

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Speaker 1: I think, certainly learned a lot from Mike.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: So when you're upset about losing Mike, hey, how about

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Speaker 1: we get the guy that just spent the past two

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Speaker 1: years learning from him?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: Sounds great to me.

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Speaker 1: In terms of schematically what Mike does, I expect that

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Speaker 1: probably Zach. Zach is definitely going to take a lot

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Speaker 1: of that same stuff and put his spin on it

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Speaker 1: in his own way. You know, he's not going to

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Speaker 1: reveal a whole lot of what that's going to be,

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Speaker 1: and they still have a lot to figure out.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Every year the defense continues to evolve, but I expect

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Speaker 1: to see from a guy that learned from Mike, a

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Speaker 1: lot of those same shades in this defense.

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Speaker 3: Moving from I think schematically, the defense is going to

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Speaker 3: look the same. I really do.

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Speaker 4: I think that, like you know, it's not going to

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Speaker 4: be some They're not rebuilding the system. It's going to

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Speaker 4: be the same system. The play calling on game day

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Speaker 4: is going to be different because it's a different person

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Speaker 4: doing it, and there's gonna be evolutions and tweaks to

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Speaker 4: it in general, but it's going to be the same

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Speaker 4: Ravens system. And that's a pretty good thing because it's

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Speaker 4: been a DARKAO system for a long time. And so

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Speaker 4: I think that now Zach has the keys and I

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Speaker 4: think that he's going to do a great job with it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. Well thanks for listening everybody.

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Speaker 1: As always, you can reach us at the Lounge at

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Speaker 1: Ravens NFL dot net. Zach will speak with the rest

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Speaker 1: of the media as well, so check out that full

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Speaker 1: press conference, which will also be available on our podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Ravens Press Pass, so make sure you're subscribed to

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Speaker 1: that Thanks for listening, we'll be back later this week

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Speaker 1: with another episode of The Lounge