1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,360
Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

2
00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,559
Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

3
00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:17,759
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.

4
00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:23,279
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly

5
00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:29,320
Speaker 1: Zeitgeist Real What is something from your search history? So related?

6
00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,600
Speaker 1: All of it was Star Wars terms that I was

7
00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,880
Speaker 1: spell checking, except for who is that defense attorney on SVU?

8
00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,760
Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought Google would know which

9
00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,440
Speaker 1: one I was talking about, but I have been. I mean,

10
00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,120
Speaker 1: I've been mainlining Law and Order SVU for the past

11
00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,280
Speaker 1: two issued weeks, to the point where I will watch

12
00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,120
Speaker 1: anywhere between four and ten episodes a day. I can't

13
00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,840
Speaker 1: get enough. I know, I'd never really seen it. I

14
00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,840
Speaker 1: thought I didn't like violence. Apparently I do only when

15
00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,560
Speaker 1: Mariska Hargeta is there. It's basically like my my new personality,

16
00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,000
Speaker 1: hobby and job all in one. Yeah. So are you're

17
00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,280
Speaker 1: late to the SVU part? I feel like SVU is

18
00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,760
Speaker 1: Have you always been messing with SVU? It's literally five

19
00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,479
Speaker 1: hundred episodes late. I don't know what happened. Wow, Yeah,

20
00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,640
Speaker 1: because I feel like that. It's interesting to hear people

21
00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,880
Speaker 1: like I'm just getting into SVU where most people are like, man,

22
00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,840
Speaker 1: I'll like SVU has been uh my number one forever

23
00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,840
Speaker 1: that I don't talk about. But you know, I think

24
00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,119
Speaker 1: part of it might be because lately, when you binge

25
00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,080
Speaker 1: watch a show, if they dumped the whole thing at once,

26
00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, you spend a Saturday night and then it's over.

27
00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,520
Speaker 1: This never hits. It's bodyless, and I just keep going

28
00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,720
Speaker 1: and going and going, and I'm I'm still like Seasons away.

29
00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,080
Speaker 1: It's still in the modern era of it where it's

30
00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,880
Speaker 1: just I can't I can't stop consuming it. Have you

31
00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,600
Speaker 1: been to the Immersive SVU experience at six Flags? I

32
00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,280
Speaker 1: honestly don't know if that's a joke or not if

33
00:01:53,280 --> 00:02:00,320
Speaker 1: it's real. Party was like, is it long through? Right? Yeah?

34
00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,840
Speaker 1: I can act a scene. Yeah, I just want to

35
00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,520
Speaker 1: go in their office, right. Yeah. It feels like an installation.

36
00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,120
Speaker 1: You'd have it like a Halloween Horror Nights or something

37
00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,359
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, do a crime scene with the

38
00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,639
Speaker 1: people that VU or like C s I or some

39
00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,880
Speaker 1: ship like that. But I guess not. Oh I wish,

40
00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,440
Speaker 1: Oh how I wish. I also love though two. I mean,

41
00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,320
Speaker 1: I've I've watched it here and there, but never you know,

42
00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,520
Speaker 1: to the point where you know they're definitely fans of

43
00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,959
Speaker 1: the show. But I also like the idea of you know,

44
00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,600
Speaker 1: when you get into a show like I like this

45
00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,160
Speaker 1: show and you're like, there's only three seasons, whereas you're

46
00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,720
Speaker 1: looking at your like, there's hundreds of episodes that I've

47
00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,960
Speaker 1: yet to even begun to experience. So let this long.

48
00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,040
Speaker 1: May it last for you? Thank you. I know there's

49
00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,160
Speaker 1: definitely some deep seated psychological reason where I'm like, it'll

50
00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,240
Speaker 1: never run out, it will never abandon me like my

51
00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,760
Speaker 1: other favorite shows. But at least for now, I just

52
00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,240
Speaker 1: love it because in every episode there's about thirty seconds

53
00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,840
Speaker 1: where they reference being actual people that exist in New

54
00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,320
Speaker 1: York City. Well they like get a coffee at a

55
00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,320
Speaker 1: coffee car, or they'll be like, come on, we'll go

56
00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,240
Speaker 1: make dinner. And I think I'm just living for that,

57
00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,480
Speaker 1: Like the moments in my brain that I can piece

58
00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,200
Speaker 1: together to make a sort of SPU sitcom. I think

59
00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,119
Speaker 1: that's really with the joy life, Like that's the best,

60
00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,360
Speaker 1: the best part of the show. Yeah, I have some

61
00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,000
Speaker 1: SPU slash fix that I can send your way. It's

62
00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,080
Speaker 1: but it's all just about them living very boring, ordinary

63
00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:26,160
Speaker 1: lives and between the crimes, it's like they're like, yeah,

64
00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,240
Speaker 1: they're like roommates. They have a lot. They could be

65
00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,440
Speaker 1: talking about the most interesting stuff when they get home,

66
00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,120
Speaker 1: like what happened at work today? And there's like nothing. Yeah,

67
00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,680
Speaker 1: like you want to watch Lost or something. They're like, yeah, okay,

68
00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,000
Speaker 1: it's called SPU days off, just their days off going

69
00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,080
Speaker 1: to the met. They're like, Actually, if you treat New

70
00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,320
Speaker 1: York like you're a tourist in your own town, that's

71
00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:53,200
Speaker 1: really nice. We should try that. Hellal guy's car. What

72
00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,600
Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated on it? This is

73
00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,440
Speaker 1: a little dark because of what happened recently in the news,

74
00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,440
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say it because I do think it's true.

75
00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,280
Speaker 1: I think music festivals are very overrated. And I say

76
00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,840
Speaker 1: that because I went to Outside Lands in San Francisco

77
00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,680
Speaker 1: over Halloween and they're all these amazing acts, you know,

78
00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:24,360
Speaker 1: like the Strokes, Tyler Glass, Animals, Nellie was randomly there.

79
00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,200
Speaker 1: Izzo was the headliner, and on paper, that's really cool.

80
00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,880
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I want to go see all those artists,

81
00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,880
Speaker 1: but the shows suck because man, I feel like I

82
00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,400
Speaker 1: figured out this scam and I'm pissed. So, like, Glass

83
00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,720
Speaker 1: Animals goes on to perform at six pm, and I'm like,

84
00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,159
Speaker 1: this music is pretty soft, and everyone is watching Glass

85
00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,880
Speaker 1: Animals because they're really popular right now. So the whole

86
00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,560
Speaker 1: like all people in this park or however many it is,

87
00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,560
Speaker 1: are crowded just to see fucking Glass Animals, while some

88
00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,720
Speaker 1: pour acoustic singers on the other stage that no one

89
00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,039
Speaker 1: cares about, and you couldn't hear. You couldn't hear the music,

90
00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,599
Speaker 1: and that music is meant to like encircle you. And

91
00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,320
Speaker 1: then lo and behold, Lizzo goes on at eight p m.

92
00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,240
Speaker 1: And the music is blasting all through the park, so

93
00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,279
Speaker 1: they have the capability to turn up this music so

94
00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,080
Speaker 1: you don't have to squish yourself to the front. They

95
00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,400
Speaker 1: could just turn it louder so people could fucking space out,

96
00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,640
Speaker 1: but they don't, and that is a scam and I

97
00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,479
Speaker 1: am not okay with it. And so because of that,

98
00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,279
Speaker 1: I ended up not going to see a lot of

99
00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,120
Speaker 1: these artists because I was like, I don't want to

100
00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,520
Speaker 1: deal with the crowd and whatever, and I missed Nellie,

101
00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,680
Speaker 1: which was maybe the whole point of going to see

102
00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,440
Speaker 1: Nellie oh Man, I guess they didn't hear a lot

103
00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,920
Speaker 1: about him being in the news much recently, but hey,

104
00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:55,279
Speaker 1: oh yeah, somewhere we let our nostalgia dictate. Yeah, I'm curious,

105
00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,600
Speaker 1: was there, So in your mind, is this a conspiracy?

106
00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,200
Speaker 1: Like you're saying like they're turn and Glass Animals down

107
00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,360
Speaker 1: because maybe they're trying to help, but not like I'm

108
00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,080
Speaker 1: trying to pull up the set time to see like

109
00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,840
Speaker 1: who was playing when Glass Animals was playing, because it's

110
00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:15,800
Speaker 1: like the organizer's daughter was on acoustical. Yeah, but like, yeah,

111
00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,520
Speaker 1: because I really love Outside Lands actually as a festival.

112
00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,640
Speaker 1: I was just talking about that because we had who

113
00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,000
Speaker 1: was just there? But it's I like it because of

114
00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,120
Speaker 1: the music festivals. It's like the most space and the

115
00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,160
Speaker 1: most bathrooms and the most like and more of like

116
00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,919
Speaker 1: the things that like trouble me about a festivals, Like

117
00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,200
Speaker 1: I gotta hold my PM for nine hours because like

118
00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,080
Speaker 1: the lines are too long and then you can't get

119
00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,440
Speaker 1: a good spot, whereas there you can be pretty like leisurely.

120
00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,760
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm sticking more point. Yeah that I went

121
00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,080
Speaker 1: to the best of the best, the most space, the

122
00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,440
Speaker 1: most bathrooms. They had a whole weed space where you

123
00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:57,600
Speaker 1: go and buy there. Yeah, and still it fucking sucked.

124
00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,520
Speaker 1: I was so taught, heard and I tried so hard,

125
00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,440
Speaker 1: and everyone was so drunk in college age and I

126
00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,159
Speaker 1: have never in my life felt older. But let me

127
00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,280
Speaker 1: tell you something. Look, it may be a scam, but

128
00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,760
Speaker 1: I cracked the code. So they had this like club

129
00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,720
Speaker 1: in a tent and the line was like three hours long.

130
00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,400
Speaker 1: It was That's another thing. What you's been three hours

131
00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,720
Speaker 1: at a music festival A fucking line you have break

132
00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,160
Speaker 1: But so I was like, I was like, I'm never

133
00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,040
Speaker 1: getting into that. But I went during Nellie and it

134
00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,720
Speaker 1: was the only time that that tent was empty and

135
00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,800
Speaker 1: you could go right in. So that was the price

136
00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:43,000
Speaker 1: to get into that. Stupid everybody who was playing man enough.

137
00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,040
Speaker 1: Fuck that was a line up on that day. Krungben

138
00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,360
Speaker 1: went on before Glass Animals and then Canada was after

139
00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,920
Speaker 1: Glass Animals, and then that led into Tyler or you

140
00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,360
Speaker 1: could have caused Sango at the house by Wow trying

141
00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,640
Speaker 1: to find you're sen here. But it's a lot of

142
00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:06,160
Speaker 1: heavy hitters. You should know that Miles is sponsored by

143
00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,800
Speaker 1: Outside Lands, so you're going to get anytime you got

144
00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,120
Speaker 1: that ticket because actually the savings in time alone make

145
00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,800
Speaker 1: it worth the extra four dollars. Now, you know, I'm

146
00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,720
Speaker 1: just a fan, but shout out to Ranger Dave. I

147
00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,320
Speaker 1: think that's absolutely true about music festivals based on my

148
00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,160
Speaker 1: experience of going to Coachella once was that it was

149
00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,760
Speaker 1: just like a total crap shoot And probably the most

150
00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,440
Speaker 1: disappointing live music experience I've ever had was seeing Outcast

151
00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,440
Speaker 1: live for the first time their first like reunion show

152
00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:47,840
Speaker 1: on that on that Yeah you were there first week

153
00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,520
Speaker 1: or second week, second week, because I was My strategy

154
00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,480
Speaker 1: is always by second week tickets because everyone wants the

155
00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,240
Speaker 1: first week tickets or back. You know, when I used

156
00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,360
Speaker 1: to go, so first week, the sound was all funked

157
00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,880
Speaker 1: up for the Outcast show, like you really and then

158
00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,920
Speaker 1: like I think Andre started getting like getting sort of

159
00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,679
Speaker 1: assuming that the audience just wasn't into them, and like

160
00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,079
Speaker 1: so he started like kind of yelling at the audience.

161
00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,800
Speaker 1: But it was just like the sound fucking sucked. It

162
00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,640
Speaker 1: was so bad like for their show, they just hadn't

163
00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,280
Speaker 1: like dialed it in. And it's really tough. It's and

164
00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,719
Speaker 1: it's a tough thing for an artist because unless you're

165
00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,640
Speaker 1: the headliner and they blast that music and have it

166
00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,640
Speaker 1: all figured out your set, plus you get the set

167
00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,360
Speaker 1: up on stage, like Tyler was in a fucking boat

168
00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,760
Speaker 1: on stage. That was really cool. But unless you have that,

169
00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,880
Speaker 1: it is a lot of space to fill up with

170
00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,280
Speaker 1: your like presence and Oh seven d Shake, who I love,

171
00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,800
Speaker 1: went up and I guess she goes by oh seven

172
00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,760
Speaker 1: oh Shake, which I didn't know until I saw that show.

173
00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,240
Speaker 1: But put on a great show. But it's like this big,

174
00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,079
Speaker 1: gass stage and it was at the very beginning of

175
00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,440
Speaker 1: the festival day one, so not a lot of people

176
00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,280
Speaker 1: were there. And she did the same thing where she

177
00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,319
Speaker 1: was kind of yelling at the audience like come on,

178
00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,839
Speaker 1: be excited, and you just saw everyone just like not

179
00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,440
Speaker 1: into it. And I was like, fuck this place, I'm

180
00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna go smoke some weed and Grasslands. Yeah, same stage,

181
00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:24,079
Speaker 1: Kick Cuttie like at like one in the afternoon was incredible.

182
00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,319
Speaker 1: It was just it was a total crap shoot, you know,

183
00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,240
Speaker 1: they just like it. Also, he was out of his

184
00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,560
Speaker 1: mind on I think the same drugs that the audience

185
00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,600
Speaker 1: was on. So it worked out pretty well. That's perfect

186
00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,480
Speaker 1: the scam, I think, Yeah, I mean like I think,

187
00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,160
Speaker 1: what's the benefit is, Like, I like the idea of

188
00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,840
Speaker 1: like spending an entire like multiple days seeing just great

189
00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,920
Speaker 1: live music. But I think that's where things get a

190
00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,959
Speaker 1: little muddied, where like you run into the things that

191
00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, like would plague any sort of profit driven operation,

192
00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,440
Speaker 1: which is like they spent more money and like made

193
00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,040
Speaker 1: it very comfortable for every one, It would be such

194
00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,959
Speaker 1: a great experience. But like, really it feels like the

195
00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,680
Speaker 1: guiding principle for music festivals. How many fucking sweaty kids

196
00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,400
Speaker 1: can we cram into this parking lot and and still

197
00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,600
Speaker 1: pay the artists what they need and still for us

198
00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,640
Speaker 1: make the money that we need to make as the organizers. Yes,

199
00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,520
Speaker 1: And that kind of leads into the astra world thing

200
00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,400
Speaker 1: where it's like that was just too many people with

201
00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,680
Speaker 1: too few strategies for how to control that many place.

202
00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah or not at all? Yeah? What what is something

203
00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:39,000
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Okay, So I bought a book

204
00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,199
Speaker 1: when I was out of town and I read it

205
00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,439
Speaker 1: in one second, and though I brought eight books, but

206
00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,320
Speaker 1: so this book is so fucking underrated because I want

207
00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,199
Speaker 1: everyone to read it and talk to me about it.

208
00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,040
Speaker 1: It's called Fashion Victims, The Dangers of Dress Past and

209
00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,520
Speaker 1: Present by Alison Matthews, David Alison, I'm to holler at

210
00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,439
Speaker 1: you on Twitter. This book is as good as hell.

211
00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:08,640
Speaker 1: It is illustrated and about all the different like poisonous

212
00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,120
Speaker 1: ways that we have made clothing and the way that

213
00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,760
Speaker 1: it used to kill people. So in an interesting way,

214
00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,839
Speaker 1: it is both about history and labor politics and like

215
00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:27,560
Speaker 1: um capitalism and fashion and crazy macab deaths like Ballerina's

216
00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,760
Speaker 1: being set on fire by their outfits, no one giving

217
00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,800
Speaker 1: a flying fuck. Girls that made like green fake flowers

218
00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,120
Speaker 1: getting poisoned by the green people making hats getting crazy

219
00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,880
Speaker 1: from the hats. You know. Yeah, but like forever, people

220
00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,600
Speaker 1: are like publishing articles and being like, yo, these people

221
00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,839
Speaker 1: are dying, and they're like, nah, it's cool. These hats

222
00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,400
Speaker 1: are cool. Though. Then there was a fashion where they

223
00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,319
Speaker 1: killed whole last birds and put them on hats, a

224
00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:04,920
Speaker 1: whole the dermy bird. They literally killed so many that

225
00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of those songbirds went extinct. We just wanted

226
00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,040
Speaker 1: them on to fucking have how insane. I love it.

227
00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,640
Speaker 1: And because what the was the mad hatters because they

228
00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,480
Speaker 1: were using mercury, right, I loved to throw some mercury

229
00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,720
Speaker 1: on some ship. This wasn't even that it's like tanning solution.

230
00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh that that's like the mad is that because Matt

231
00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,480
Speaker 1: is a Hatterard was like, that's like from the UK

232
00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,040
Speaker 1: right of Like, no, this is all the same thing.

233
00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,319
Speaker 1: But I think the story wasn't about that. Got it,

234
00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,880
Speaker 1: got it. The solutions changed but stayed. Poison is peak

235
00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,440
Speaker 1: mercury use Oh and then shoot shoot polish like people

236
00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,199
Speaker 1: would polish their shoes, go out dancing all night, come

237
00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,560
Speaker 1: home and die because the shoe polish seeped through their

238
00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,880
Speaker 1: shoes when they were sweaty and poisoned them. Yeah, it

239
00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,360
Speaker 1: sounds like, you know, so good. And they have pictures

240
00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,040
Speaker 1: of all the stuff that kills, that has killed you,

241
00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,200
Speaker 1: and they're still testing all of these hats and they're like, yep,

242
00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:11,160
Speaker 1: that's still tests positive for mercury. Like it's been so

243
00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,960
Speaker 1: many fucking years and the hat will test so positive

244
00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,319
Speaker 1: for mercury. It's enough to kill like a ton of people.

245
00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,000
Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, you used to just wear it.

246
00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,240
Speaker 1: And are the illustrations scattered throughout the book like when

247
00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,400
Speaker 1: a subject comes up, there's a picture there, or is

248
00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,360
Speaker 1: it the like standard adult book thing where there's just

249
00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,400
Speaker 1: like a center fold of a bunch of pictures. No,

250
00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,800
Speaker 1: they're all throughout and it's so perfect, and all the

251
00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,440
Speaker 1: references for all of them are in there. It's like

252
00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,480
Speaker 1: meticulously researched. So when they're like this is the kind

253
00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,520
Speaker 1: of green hat that killed people, there will be a

254
00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,240
Speaker 1: picture of the green hat, and they'll also do a

255
00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,840
Speaker 1: thing where like this is an advertisement from that time

256
00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,240
Speaker 1: that that is like a cartoon that shows that kind

257
00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,600
Speaker 1: of green hat or people dying from the green hat.

258
00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,400
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty fire. The ads like those people are liars,

259
00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,400
Speaker 1: are green hats, didn't kill no kids. That is how

260
00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,920
Speaker 1: adds were like slandering people who are a lot of

261
00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,840
Speaker 1: the liar by green hats, and a lot of them

262
00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,200
Speaker 1: blamed the people wearing the clothes. They're like, you're a

263
00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,840
Speaker 1: dumb bitch, and that's why you died from setting yourself

264
00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,560
Speaker 1: on fire. So you know it was Yeah, you didn't

265
00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,600
Speaker 1: know your ship was a soaked in kerosene to make

266
00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,040
Speaker 1: it that nice texture that's on you. Yeah, exactly. But

267
00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,360
Speaker 1: you're right, Miles, like the mercury thing is a big

268
00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,160
Speaker 1: part of it. I just want to say that there's

269
00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,720
Speaker 1: so many more terrible. It wasn't just the mercury though,

270
00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,080
Speaker 1: and then Max would be like come to bed, and

271
00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, hold on, I have to read about

272
00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,480
Speaker 1: these poisons real quick. I got to get take that

273
00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:52,480
Speaker 1: hat off. It's just a baseball head. Well it's pretty

274
00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,200
Speaker 1: creepy because apparently a lot of the green dye is

275
00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,800
Speaker 1: still toxic. Yeah, and there's a lot of stuff that

276
00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,600
Speaker 1: you when you're reading the authors like and actually, this

277
00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,440
Speaker 1: is still real dangerous. And we don't know where most

278
00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,640
Speaker 1: of the cheap clothes that you buy come from or

279
00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,560
Speaker 1: who made them or died them, so actually you could

280
00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,200
Speaker 1: be wearing something that poisons you. Have a great day. Oh.

281
00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,880
Speaker 1: I just want to tag on an underrated of illustrations

282
00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,080
Speaker 1: and adult books, like not just a bunch of pictures

283
00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,160
Speaker 1: in the middle, but like, give me some illustrations. Throughout

284
00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,120
Speaker 1: the publishing industry, you know, they need to like they

285
00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,040
Speaker 1: find a happy medium between adult books and children's books.

286
00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,920
Speaker 1: I think that's why I read a lot of historical

287
00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:39,640
Speaker 1: books because like cartographic images, images and like certain portraits

288
00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,880
Speaker 1: are in there because you're like you gotta understand like

289
00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,840
Speaker 1: what you're looking at her, like how close this city

290
00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,240
Speaker 1: is to this city? And I'm and I think pardon me,

291
00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,840
Speaker 1: is like, yes, maps. And also I feel like, don't

292
00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,880
Speaker 1: you feel like it's a treat when you get to it?

293
00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,920
Speaker 1: And I don't want the treats to just be all

294
00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,720
Speaker 1: in a big gass pile randomly. I wanted to be distributed,

295
00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,440
Speaker 1: some getting little all the time. Yeah. Otherwise, and also

296
00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,640
Speaker 1: sometimes it ruins it for you if they put all

297
00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,520
Speaker 1: of the pictures earlier. Sometimes you'll see a picture and

298
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,320
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, it's her dead husband. You're like,

299
00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,000
Speaker 1: he fucking died. I didn't even get to that part yet,

300
00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's very true. Also,

301
00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,160
Speaker 1: just on the mercury thing, they liked mercury so much

302
00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,720
Speaker 1: that the way that we they liked it so much

303
00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,359
Speaker 1: that they used to stick it up their ass when

304
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,639
Speaker 1: they had incontinent or rather constipation. And that's how we've

305
00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,800
Speaker 1: been able to reconstruct Lewis and Clark's journey is because

306
00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,880
Speaker 1: one of them was constipated and sticking mercury up their ass.

307
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,399
Speaker 1: So you just like go along and find the latrines

308
00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,959
Speaker 1: that have mercury in them, and that's where they stopped.

309
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,560
Speaker 1: I'll do you want better? You shove it in your

310
00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:53,760
Speaker 1: dick hole yourself from syphilis. Yes, and that is what

311
00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,320
Speaker 1: they were doing, And that is apparently one of the

312
00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,919
Speaker 1: like myths or like theories for how they discovered them.

313
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,480
Speaker 1: Mercury helps the tanning process. That like a dude was

314
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,240
Speaker 1: pissing in the tanks because you're in like does does stuff,

315
00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:12,520
Speaker 1: and because he was treated for work for syphilis, that

316
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,160
Speaker 1: his process like worked a lot better than other people's,

317
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,800
Speaker 1: so they deduced it. That's like one theory. They're like,

318
00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:25,840
Speaker 1: damn yeh, John's dirty dick is making good as why it? Man?

319
00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 1: If you try it's so soft? What's your secret? Man?

320
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:38,880
Speaker 1: I got syphilis slowly going insane? Okay, thanks, And it's

321
00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,760
Speaker 1: it's probably just because like it looked cool, right, it

322
00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,879
Speaker 1: looks like liquids, Like it looks like the from t

323
00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 1: there two. So like they were just like, well, that

324
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,840
Speaker 1: ship must like be good for something. Let's keep it

325
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,160
Speaker 1: around and try it and rub it on everything. Man,

326
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come

327
00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 1: back and talk about the news. Yeah, and we're back. Uh,

328
00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 1: Like we set up Top America still a white supremacist

329
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,359
Speaker 1: violent ship escape. You know, we had a sense that

330
00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 1: Rittenhouse was going to be found not guilty, but it

331
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:26,440
Speaker 1: doesn't face just observing the American legal system sadly, Yeah,

332
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,440
Speaker 1: but it didn't feel any less like a you know,

333
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 1: sickening gut punched to hear them read not guilty five

334
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 1: times as this little pig face Nazi youth sits there

335
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,360
Speaker 1: and like pretends to faint. But yeah, I mean these

336
00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 1: are American values, Like if you needed any evidence that

337
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 1: we should be fighting to teach critical race theory as

338
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 1: hard as they're fighting against it. Like here you go,

339
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,120
Speaker 1: American police started as a slave patrol. But you don't

340
00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 1: need to see that they have roots in white premised

341
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 1: vigilante violence because we still allow what supremisies vigilantes to

342
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 1: just like police and ultimately murder people in the interest

343
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 1: of that ideology. So I mean, this is you know,

344
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 1: this is a turning point for sure, because you're now

345
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 1: we've legally essentially said a precedent that you can bring

346
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 1: you can bring a weapon with you in a situation

347
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: where you're there to like protect whatever, but proper even

348
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: if you cause a commotion by being armed, you are

349
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 1: then now it's legal for you to defend yourself even

350
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 1: though you've come with provocation in mind. And I think

351
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 1: that's that's going to create a huge chilling factor for

352
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: people when they want to go protests. And some people

353
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 1: think that's something people will have to consider now when

354
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: they're in the streets protesting, because now you have said,

355
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, legally, yeah, if you feel scared enough, then

356
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: go ahead start clapping, and you know, maybe you'll get

357
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 1: off based on the complexion of your skin. And you know,

358
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things we're seeing too. This is

359
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: now sort of like more and more you're moving into

360
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: that phase where the right wing violence is now sort

361
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: of blending more and more with law enforcement and sort

362
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: of not understanding where the lines are with who is

363
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: going to enforce what anymore, because we're damnster seeing what

364
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: the police will turn their head and look away from

365
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: and allowed to happen. But we're now, like fully, it

366
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: seems like more and more we're going to be seeing this,

367
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, connection between the police and and sort of

368
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 1: outsourcing the violence to these other people now because it

369
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: used to be the police that were sort of the

370
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: ones on the front sort of brutalizing protesters, but vigilantes

371
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 1: cannot act as their agents. Yeah, he was pictured with

372
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of Nazis, like given the thumbs up and

373
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 1: celebrating in between, Like when he was leading up to trial,

374
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 1: Black Rifle Coffee was like, we're not associated with him.

375
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: Black Rifle Coffee, which is itself like a right wing

376
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: gun coffee company, was like, hey, don't, don't be where

377
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: and are We didn't give him any of that ship,

378
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: don't don't don't mind us. But you know, a lot

379
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: of people are pointing rightly, pointing to the contrast between

380
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: how the police treat unarmed black children versus how they

381
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 1: treated a armed with an assault rifle white kid who

382
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: had just murdered two people. Another instructive comparison as the

383
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: story of the Not Fucking Around Coalition, which is an

384
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: armed group that is dedicated to protecting black lives from

385
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: police brutality. Just the idea of arming black citizens, who,

386
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 1: by the way, I have way more reason to need

387
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: to be armed for like self defense and preservation of

388
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 1: life than Kyle Rittenhouse, who was avowedly there to protect property.

389
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: He was there to protect like looting or whatever the

390
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: fucking inanimate objects. Yeah, whatever their fantasy is. But they,

391
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, since kind of coming together during the Black

392
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:03,959
Speaker 1: Lives Matter movement, of the Not Fucking Around Coalition has

393
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: been targeted as an extremist group. Their leader has been

394
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: arrested and charged with pointing a gun at police, for

395
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: which he faces three to twenty seven years in prison.

396
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: He's currently not allowed to possess a gun or access

397
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: social media while he awaits trial. Because these are American values.

398
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: This isn't like that's what's so enraging about this is

399
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: that was the point. The point of the Kyle Rittenhouse

400
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: trial was getting him to like be buddy buddy with

401
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: the judge so everybody could see that, to see like, no,

402
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: this is what we condone, and like this other thing

403
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: is what we don't condone. The I mean more more

404
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: than that, I think the verdict, you know, because I

405
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: see a lot I mean on the right people like

406
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: where where's black lives matter here? At these things white

407
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: people that got killed by Kyle Rittenhouse, and like they're like,

408
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: this is the thing. You don't understand that this person

409
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: was there in service of white supremacy, and that what

410
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: this verdict is really saying. It's it's it's it's trying

411
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: to erode solidarity. You know, because a lot of people

412
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: began to understand not that's not enough. But many people

413
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: in this country said, you know what, yeah, this is

414
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: bad and I should actually stand, you know with these

415
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: people who are oppressed and use my privilege as a

416
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: way to maybe try and change things, maybe better things,

417
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: and I would like to be an ally to this movement.

418
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: But what this is showing you two, is it's showing

419
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: that even for white people who are considering ally ship,

420
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,239
Speaker 1: that your whiteness will not protect you if you are

421
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: standing in direct opposition to white supremacy, because at that point,

422
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: you it's your Your life is just as disposable as

423
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: a person of colors. And for many people looking at this,

424
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: it's just it. I can only imagine what what kind

425
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: of what the subtext or what how other people are

426
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: reading into it. But from my perspective, it's clear to

427
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: see that this is definitely made to also send a

428
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: warning shot across people who are saying, you know what,

429
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: if you're on that side, just so you know, it's

430
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: the rules will be different, and you know, and and

431
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: again this legal system has done its job because but

432
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: just like we said in that summer right, white supremacy

433
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: is a living organism that has to survive no matter

434
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: what it finds ways to survive. It's not just simply

435
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: saying like, all right, we've legislated against it, it's over,

436
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: because the second there's a mass public action that is

437
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: kind of showing up and brewing against it, it's going

438
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: to find these ways to reinforce the message that these

439
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: public actions are not powerful enough to topple this, because

440
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: inherent to all of this is a legal system that

441
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 1: is meant to justify and rationalize all of this violence,

442
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: and using it's perceived impartiality as a legal system quote

443
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: unquote to again say no, no, no, there's ways that

444
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: we can make this work, especially if, like Kyle Rittenhouse,

445
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: you're there in service of white supremacy or property rights

446
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: are ever somebody wants to spend. Yeah, And so, I

447
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: mean this is especially frustrating because it seems like, you know,

448
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: at the moment, the defund the police movement has been

449
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: losing popularity. They lost a big battle in Minneapolis where

450
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: they voted to keep the existing police force, And as

451
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: we talked about last month, there's sort of a mainstream

452
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: narrative that is tying the rise in violent crime and

453
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: murder to police defunding, even though nobody actually defunded the

454
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: police to a degree that they were like crippled. And

455
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: what happened as police budgets got minor cuts from absurd heights,

456
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: well they got three less buzukas, right, and you know

457
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: that kept them from being armed like Navy seals to

458
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: police their communities. And the main thing that happened was

459
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: the police basically quit on their communities for daring to

460
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: criticize them. And I also think there's probably a breakdown

461
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: in the public trust and police as it's revealed that

462
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: police are both you know, continuing to be armed, willing

463
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: to use deadly force, and extremely bad at their job.

464
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: So I I don't think that's helpful. But the solutions

465
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: seem to be defund the police, which was interpreted by

466
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: the mainstream media as like away, yeah, police gone forever

467
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: and one one won't work anymore, Yeah, and then double

468
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: down on a system of militarized fuko boomerang police force

469
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: that like is just basically occupying forces being in American

470
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: cities and in neighborhoods that they don't live in, but

471
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: that are in American cities and where they are willing

472
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: to use deadly force. Like that's being treated as like, well,

473
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: it's either no police or we keep doubling down on

474
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: this fucking nightmare scenario. So I did just want to

475
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: take a second to like check in with what defunding

476
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: the police could actually look like. A lot of people

477
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: are treating it like it's a branding thing, and I

478
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: don't know, like that's I think, I mean, it's not

479
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: that it's a branding thing. But people, Americans, again, because

480
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: of the amount of propaganda we consume throughout our lifetimes,

481
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: we're we're we're just still so invested in these cruel systems,

482
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: and we're at this point where we can acknowledge the

483
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: cruelty of the systems, but not quite able to articulate

484
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: the way past it or through it. You know, like

485
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: everyone goes, damn man ship. This seems like even especially

486
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: as it relates to that right now, to like labor, right,

487
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: everyone's like, man, this is fucked up. Like people are

488
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, now that I think about it, this

489
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: is fucked up. But we're sort of because there's so

490
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: much other messaging that is gonna, you know, keep away,

491
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: things like giving people the imagination on how to make

492
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: something better for themselves, whether that's to collective bargaining or

493
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 1: through withhold, you know, because they're now people organically withholding

494
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: their labor. There's just there's a difficulty in articulating to say, yes,

495
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: this is fucked up. The thing we need to do

496
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: is X. We're just not There's not enough Americans who

497
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: are able to get to that part. Many people are

498
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: just at the part who were like, yes, this is

499
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: fucked up. You're right, this is sucked up. The police

500
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: just I'm actually just realized, Yeah, it does seem like

501
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: the police just go after people of color and they're

502
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: not punished for it because we have things like qualified immunity.

503
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: That's fucked up. Now what And I think the first

504
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: thing that people that was brought to the table in

505
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: terms of like the vocabulary to use was defund the police,

506
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: because that was more acknowledging the fact the injustice of

507
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: what our law enforcement system is like that this cannot

508
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: we cannot abide anymore. And because it was co opted

509
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: to just me and the end of all public safety,

510
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: that can immediately just put a chilling effect on things

511
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: and people were unable to Again, we need to be

512
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: able to of it too. Yes it's fucked up, and

513
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: we need to move towards this, and if we're always

514
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: stuck at things are fucked up, it's very hard to

515
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: begin organizing around certain things. And and like you're saying,

516
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: you have some people who are really talking about completely

517
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: changing what it means to have like law enforcement and

518
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: what public safety is and the people who can be

519
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: involved or the specialties that we need for that. But

520
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like everything kind of keeps

521
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: evolving in this way that it's it's just become very

522
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: difficult to kind of escape, or not escape, but to

523
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: keep telling people that it's not merely just saying the

524
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: end of your safety, that we have to actually there

525
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: are other ways to keep people safe, and on paper,

526
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: the cops aren't doing a good job. I think it

527
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: has to be compounded by the fact too, that it

528
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: lately it feels like every sphere of society is just

529
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: fucked just everything, especially that we are we're still in

530
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: a pandemic. It doesn't seem like it's ending anytime soon.

531
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: I read something that there's another strain coming, like we're

532
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: just in this and you can't even count on someone

533
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: to wear a mask to try not to actively kill you,

534
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: to get a vaccine for the better the community. It

535
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: just seems like there's such a divide in in such

536
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: a deep, deep way that it really is everything that

537
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: needs to change requires teamwork, and there's so many people

538
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: who just don't give a ship that it feels like

539
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: at times, like an impossible mountain to climb. Yeah, And

540
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: I think and that's by design to you know, like

541
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: I think, to to help people feel so the sense

542
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: of despair or like lack of control over anything can

543
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: easily put just put people into this new thing about saying, well,

544
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: the solution isn't gonna be how am I gonna work

545
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: with other people. The solution is fucking get your house

546
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: in order and figure out how you're gonna weather this

547
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: without the help of anyone. Because I think that's the

548
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 1: message that's reflected to people by society and the government

549
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: at large. It's just like you're on your own mother. Yeah,

550
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: I feel like that's exactly like, rather than you know,

551
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: being like, well, if only these people would vote for

552
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: like what is good for them, Like, I feel like

553
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: that's where a lot of it ends, is like these

554
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: people are idiots. Like I think a lot of the

555
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: problems come from the fact that everybody in America is

556
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: existing in a society where if you don't have enough money,

557
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: you that will let you die. Like that's that's just

558
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: like it's a cruel, cold, fucking world. And it's also

559
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, we're being stripped of our humanity by capitalism

560
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 1: and by just like being you know, turned into values

561
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: on a on a spreadsheet. And I think that's like

562
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: been a long slow process and people are fucking beat

563
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: down from it. So there's this Rice University article that

564
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: kind of takes a look at where alternatives to policing

565
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: should be focused on. The first categories health you know,

566
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: like mental health and drug abuse resources. The vast major

567
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: already of patrol police over in Seattle address multiple people

568
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: in mental health crisis every month, Like that's that is

569
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: the main thing. Like I I was dropping my kids

570
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: off at school on Friday morning, drove past someone who's

571
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: clearly in having a mental health crisis, and my only

572
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: recourse like was to call nine one one basically or

573
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: like stop and do something about it myself, because I

574
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: don't know what, like what are the mental health like authorities?

575
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: And if I call nine one one for help, A

576
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: person who is scared is gonna with a gun, is

577
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: going to show up like that's what the police have

578
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: the ability to do is like use a gun, So

579
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: that's how they solve the fucking problem. Yeah, and you

580
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: know this is like everything that the police are there for. Again,

581
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: they're there to clean up the failures of this capitalist

582
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: system them. Now we're in, we have mental health problems

583
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: because we will not take care of people with mental

584
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: health problems, will not take care of people who need

585
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: interventions for their drug abuse or need to go into

586
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: a treatment program. So we allow that to fester and

587
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: it turns into someone on the street acting out and

588
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: people go, oh my god, I can't know this person

589
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: is doing something. I gotta call the police to get

590
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: them away from me. When really that's because we failed

591
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: to take care of somebody. You look again, we talk

592
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: about crimes of desperation, survival crime like theft in shoplifting

593
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: a ship like that. That's not that's not because they're

594
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: fucking Tony Soprano, because they just they just stole a

595
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: bunch of en famil. That's not what the funk is

596
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: going on. It's because people have been failed. People have

597
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: we have failed to take care of each other. We

598
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: have failed to create or provide sustenance or the materials

599
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: needed to survive. So people are left to their own

600
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: devices and have to go out and survive. And that's

601
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: where the police come in because we've criminalized needing help,

602
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: we've criminalized being vulnerable, we've criminalized being poor, and then

603
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: but what we've created, but we've completely obscured this dynamic

604
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: through this lens of law enforcement and the good guys

605
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: and the bad guys in this binary that that's all

606
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: it is. Rather than no, no, no, this is most

607
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: of us are being brutalized by the same people and

608
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: for the same reasons because we're not getting what we

609
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: need to survive. Yeah, I feel like so one of

610
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: the you know, examples that we've talked about before on

611
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: this show, the Rice University article talks about is Cahoots,

612
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: which is the cornally named Eugene, Oregon organization that started

613
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: as just a thing to like help people who are

614
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: having bad trips essentially, and has developed into, you know,

615
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: a very continually useful alternative to the police that can

616
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: come and help somebody who is having a mental health crisis.

617
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: And a lot of times their job is to just

618
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: be a person who can do whatever is required at

619
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: the time, you don't need like special training. It just

620
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: seems like there's so many fucking jobs that could be

621
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: created by supplementing the police with people who don't fucking

622
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: murder people, Like, like, how about how about we try that,

623
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: just create a police of people who actually live in

624
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: the communities and are there to solve problems instead of

625
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: like treat people like enemy cabatants, right, And you know,

626
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: there have been examples of this with people who are

627
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: there to help with relationship crises, domestic violence, which you know,

628
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: a lot of times people who are engaging in domestic violence,

629
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, move on to other violent crimes. But it

630
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't help that the thing they're met with when

631
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: they first engaged with in domestic violence is somebody pointing

632
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: a gun at them. And that's the only it's either

633
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: like funnel towards prison or like figure it out yourself,

634
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 1: you know, no mental health resources, not no relationship resources,

635
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: and the other just community patrol in America has traditionally

636
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: been fucking Kyle Rittenhouse and George Zimmermann and people like that,

637
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: where you know, people armed white people who are racist

638
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: thinking that they need to you know, just basically playing

639
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: police officer and like there's that needs to be supplemented

640
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: with some you know, the Black Panthers were there to

641
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: police the police, and they were treated like a violent,

642
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: fucking extremist organization, which is all you need to know

643
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: about the difference in how America approaches these things. But

644
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: that's another option that is probably the least tested, but

645
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: the one that absolutely needs to be pursued more than

646
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: it has to this point. Yeah, just thinking about you know,

647
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: like the whole thing that by America being so intentionally cruel,

648
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: and that's sort of like the the sort of foundation

649
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: that like life is built on and keeping people most people,

650
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: you know, like in a place where they feel like, well,

651
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: my only thing that I have is to survive because

652
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at a I'm not looking at many

653
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: things that will help me. Granted there are some, there

654
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: are social safety that's out there, but in general, the

655
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: messages if you don't like, if you don't have, then

656
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: you will continue to lack and then you will expire.

657
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: And I think it puts people. It helps always keep

658
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: people divided because of that, because if you're always acknowledging

659
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: that you're in this survival situation, altruism doesn't make sense

660
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: all the time because you're already accepting that you're in

661
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: a you're in a situation where surviving is number one.

662
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, it's you know, for lack

663
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: of a better metaphor, it's like looking like the squid

664
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: game marbles up sold or suddenly when it's time to survive,

665
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: you'll do whatever the funk you have to do. That's

666
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: just human nature. And and and it's such a elegant

667
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: way to continue to keep people from being able to

668
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: group together, to organize together, because we're too busy fucking

669
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: dealing with the chaos of like the cruel reality that

670
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: we're in all the time. Yeah, And I feel like

671
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: the fact that there aren't all these jobs like there

672
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: people recognize their communities are fucked, they recognize that, like

673
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: there is work to be done there. The fact that

674
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: those jobs aren't created yet, I feel like it's like

675
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: a hangover from a previous time when people like weren't

676
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: didn't give a funk about their communities. And you know,

677
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it just feels like this is

678
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: a problem that could be addressed if people just act locally.

679
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: And I don't know, there there are the people there

680
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: is the will to do things to help. I mean

681
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: most people were probably are probably better at I mean

682
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: I would say every person who lives in a neighborhood

683
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: is will be better at policing their neighborhood than the

684
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: fucking police where you live. You know who the fuck you?

685
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: You know who's in your community? Say, oh that Britain.

686
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: I don't worry about them. They're kind of going through it.

687
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: That's I know them. There there's more, there's more context

688
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: to who this person is, rather than one call saying

689
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: someone's backting, belligerent and is you know, threatening people with

690
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: a shopping cart or something, because like you're saying, we're

691
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: people were not the things aren't of our communities anymore.

692
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it's just I just think of

693
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: how much even like where I grew up, I knew

694
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: so much about my neighborhood. I knew so much about

695
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: people who I saw. I saw the same regular un

696
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: housed people all the time, to the point where like

697
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: I knew what the funk they were Like, I like,

698
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: I knew what they were gonna ask me for. I

699
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: knew what their whole rap was. And it's and you understand,

700
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: you're at that point you actually have a better idea

701
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: of like what is a threat? What is a danger

702
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 1: to to you, your safety or the community at large.

703
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: But right anyway, maybe we'll begin to have a reckoning

704
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: one day in America, but we've been reckoning free since

705
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: fucking whenever you want to put a date to it. Well,

706
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: speaking about depressing, let's talk about inflation. So it's the

707
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: buzzword of the season that's been used to explain everything

708
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: from the labor shortage to why turkeys are more expensive

709
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: this year. And yeah, it's just a convenient I mean,

710
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: it's happening. First of all, it is happening. Things are

711
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,479
Speaker 1: getting more expensive. So the explanation that we're getting though,

712
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: is that it is all because of the labor class

713
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: being paid more. Yeah, that's one if you if you

714
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: follow Stephani rule, or if you're watching Tucker Carlson, it's

715
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: just to be like Joe Byron is trying to make

716
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: you poor, or if and or the you know, at

717
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: the other at the other part of it, corporations are

718
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: also kind of loving it too, but on a much

719
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: more subtle level because they're loving it because they're using

720
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: this to actually just raise prices on people. Because they

721
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: can because they see people are paying for it. Very cynically,

722
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: nothing to do with stressed supply chains. They're just like, yo,

723
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: let's really good. Let's see if we can squeeze out

724
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: a couple of percentage points. Because this is a very

725
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 1: interesting statistic that was in the Wall Street Journal. Nearly

726
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: two out of three of the biggest US publicly traded

727
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: companies had larger profit margins this year than they did

728
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. Okay, and that means nearly one d

729
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: of these massive corporations report profits in one that are

730
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: fifty percent above profit margins from twenty nineteen, pre pandemic.

731
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: So they're making many right now, and a lot of

732
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: it is being revealed in this article in The New Republic.

733
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: You know, people were sitting in on shareholder calls just

734
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: to be like, I wonder how this is being message

735
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: to the people that own the stock of some of

736
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: these companies. And what they're hearing is things like from

737
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: this article. Quote. In these calls, business leaders employee fancy

738
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: financial lingo to tell large shareholders how they are engaging

739
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: in quote pricing improvements and quote successful pricing strategies. They

740
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: tell you they are experiencing customer quote elasticities to price

741
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: increases at historically low levels. When you decode what they're saying,

742
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: it's nothing less than a Eufork articulation that they're able

743
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: to pass off price increases to consumers bull stop. And

744
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: there's like, you know, on one hand, you'll have places

745
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: like like in the stock prices are going up because

746
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: of this. They're like loving, They're like, oh my god,

747
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: wait what and you're making more profits. This is fantastic.

748
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: You look at a company like Target, who had come

749
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: out and said, you know, we're actually not going to

750
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: be raising prices, like we're able to kind of maintain

751
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: what we have and have like a healthy financial outlook

752
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: by not raising prices, and shareholders started dumping their stock

753
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: and sending the stock price down. So people were like, well,

754
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to be on board with some company

755
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: that's not going to raise their prices to make more money.

756
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: Are you fucking dumb? Depressing? And you know there's there's

757
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: even on CNBC Jim Kramer was talking about how like

758
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: home Depot and Lows they're raising prices because they don't

759
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: give a funk. And also they're literally in the mentality

760
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: of who gonna stop me boo, Like who gonna check me?

761
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: Because the two of us run the whole ship. This

762
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: is from Jim Kramer talking about how these two companies,

763
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: Lows and Home Depot, can quote do no wrong because

764
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: they're passing on rising costs to the public and the

765
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: public has no choice because these two chains have singlehandedly

766
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: wiped out the competition already. So is what we're seeing,

767
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: like the you know, the pandemic caused the government to

768
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: send out age two people have lost their jobs, more

769
00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: people had more like government assistance than they've had in

770
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: a long time. Is that where the quote unquote elasticity

771
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: goes comes from, And like the government aids those payments

772
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: that we're supposed to like help people get through a

773
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: rainy day, like they are just immediately getting like hoovered

774
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: up by Walmart and like all those corporations Like yeah, yeah,

775
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: but I mean, like, but you did have a lot

776
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: of Benny's you know benefits run out and for certain

777
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: people all over the countries starting months ago. So even now,

778
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: like just even when we talked about that one dumb

779
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 1: CNN piece, but like my milk's ninety bucks a gallon

780
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: now and it wasn't but I think they really like

781
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: this idea that prices It's it's just like, that's the

782
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: thing about this, there's a lot of nebulous data that

783
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: is able to be sort of harnessed for the aims

784
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: of at this point corporations because I think at the

785
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: end of the day, more than like obviously the wealth

786
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: extraction from consumers is a huge thing for them, but

787
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: more importantly, this is feeding this narrative about what it

788
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: means with Biden in office and what he aims to

789
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: do with some of these infrastructure, like with build back

790
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: better A lot of that, Like the financing from that

791
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: is to be like, yeah, we just got to charge

792
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: corporations like their fair share and taxes. That's how we

793
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: pay for a lot of this ship. So this is

794
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: helping them create a little more instability and uncertainty and

795
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: consumers by raising their prices so they make more money,

796
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: while also saying, hey, man, if Joe Byron is going

797
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: to start passing all these other laws, inflation is going

798
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: to be even wilder. Hold onto your whole butt and paycheck.

799
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: And so that's also their aim at sort of being like,

800
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: now we can kind of stoke and anti infrastructure movement

801
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: that will protect our tax rates. Right, It's like inflation

802
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: has always been politicized because it's what they were saying

803
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: before the stimulus path that first stimulus, like oh, it

804
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: can't pass a stimulus package because it will spike inflation

805
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: and that's bad. And then all these economists were like, no,

806
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: it's not really like that, like they're overblowing this risk it.

807
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: But I think that's where you see like sort of

808
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: like the vested interests when we have debates like this

809
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: of like do we help people or do we raise

810
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: corporate taxes, and there are many people who are just

811
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: on the human ground level, we're like, yes, please, that

812
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: sounds great. Unfortunately, the messaging and the access to all

813
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: the lovers of like mainstream communication have vested interests in

814
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: the same way be like, we're not paying more fucking taxes.

815
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: You're kidding me. We're just gonna talk about this inflation

816
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: and start banging that drum and look the other way. Yeah.

817
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: There's also just with regards to the supply chain. An

818
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: explanation I actually heard on the It could Happen here

819
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: Daily showy They interviewed somebody who works at a like

820
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: soda manufacturing plant and has worked in various manufacturing jobs,

821
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: Like over the past four or five years. They were

822
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: talking about how the big change that's happened is that

823
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: corporations have now embraced this thing called just in time production,

824
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: which means that right, what, like you don't start producing

825
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: something until there's a demand for it, and like you don't.

826
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: It's it's like there's no there's no you're not like

827
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: storing anything. There's no overhead. It's just like, okay, so

828
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: they ran out of this and we're hearing they need more.

829
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: Now we produce it, and like that basically creates it's

830
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: cheaper for the companies. It gives them better margins because

831
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: there's no overhead and there's no like producing something that

832
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: then doesn't get sold. The problem is that there's no

833
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: like elasticity in the supply chain, so like you don't

834
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: have extras if suddenly there's a a bunch of you know,

835
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: this person worked as a casket manufacturer in the past,

836
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: so if there's suddenly a need for casket suddenly, the

837
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: way that they deal with that is they just worked

838
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: people inhumanely around the clock until like they can get

839
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: that supply met. It's once again just the values of

840
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: the market of quarterly earnings, calls of CEOs who have

841
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: just extracted the humanity from the workers and from the

842
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: laborers and turned it into just you know, values on

843
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: a spreadsheet. And you know, that is what economics is.

844
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: That's what the modern version of capitalism is. And like

845
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: market logic is just like remove the humanity, think of

846
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: everything as like the numbers are the numbers good? Yeah? Yeah,

847
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: so that's not great, But again it's it's just the

848
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: overall system. It's the same overall system that we're talking

849
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: about with regards to the inflation, right, And I mean

850
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: at a certain point, you know, like you're you're slowly

851
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: seeing more and more people take up for themselves and

852
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: organize themselves to have any better outcomes for them, you know,

853
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: for them themselves. Yet again to use that word, you know,

854
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: as it relates to their employment and what benefits they get.

855
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: And I can only see I don't think just in

856
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: time production habits are going to necessarily extinguish those flames.

857
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: I feel like it's I'm curious what they're looking at.

858
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: Two because at this point, all the forecasting that happens,

859
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: whether it's like risk they're worth taking because let's say

860
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: like well, this thing is faulty and we might get sued,

861
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: but we can afford it as long as we make

862
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: enough money up front. Like what kind of stuff they're

863
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: already looking at in terms of what the unrest will

864
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: be like with their employees and how to navigate that

865
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: and see like, well we could scab it up for

866
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: this time, just gate through Q four and then calling

867
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: the pinkertons. Well, the really insidious thing that he was

868
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: talking about is that by making it such a like

869
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: flexible system where you need to like move move around

870
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: and like, Okay, I'm gonna put this person on on

871
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: this job, it actually makes like he was saying that

872
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: he's in a union shop, but the people who are

873
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: in a non union shop, actually we're in slightly better

874
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: working conditions as of this moment because they had flexibility.

875
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: But that's all because of the inhumane orders coming down,

876
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: Like they're better able to deal with in humane orders

877
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: coming down. So it's like the just in time production

878
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: is creating a system where like it makes it harder

879
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: for people who are unionized, which is fucking bullshit, right, Yeah,

880
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: that's it does feel like that's the trend, though, Like

881
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't like it's harder to be unionized working for

882
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: a corporation like Amazon. And I feel like Walmart was

883
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: maybe the writing on the wall where it was like

884
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: Walmart was union busting and people are trying to stop

885
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: Walmart's from being built in their town. Now it's like,

886
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: fuck it, we don't need stores in our towns. We

887
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: can just have Amazon, right yeah, yeah, well this is uh.

888
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we're living in a very historic time, especially you. Yeah,

889
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: like even more than ever. I can't. I just look

890
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: at things and I'm like, how do these people with

891
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: like who have all the capital really think that at

892
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: a certain point like that, that you can just run

893
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: someone down to the point they're like, Okay, I'll just

894
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: die on the factory floor. Yeah, Like I mean, and

895
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: it does happen places, absolutely, but at a certain point

896
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: enough people are going to really like I'm just it's

897
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: it's always fascinating to see how disconnected those people can

898
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: be from like what the what the actual reality is

899
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: of the situation there in It's fascinating. But the show

900
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: Succession exists for a reason and it's beautiful, well run TV.

901
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: But I mean it's like you don't have exposure. That's

902
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: our stratisy like our stratified society where you don't have

903
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: exposure to the working class if you're in that corporately, right, Yeah,

904
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: you're the poorest person, you know, is what Greg? Yeah,

905
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, And you find his

906
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: problems amusing, right right, right, and you laugh about it.

907
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: And he's only poor because his grandpa doesn't want to

908
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 1: give him. Yeah, that like what one of the things

909
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: that I've just been like I'm continuing to think over.

910
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm reading that book Debt by David Graber, which is

911
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: the history of its basically a new history of economic

912
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: systems like throughout human history. Prior to this, most of

913
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: my understanding of like how economics works was based on economists,

914
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, like people who study economics and like subscribe

915
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: to that Adam Smith the idea that like, well everybody

916
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: is a financial actor who was like acting in their

917
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: own self interests. And this book argues that like that

918
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: is actually like that ideal of humans just acting in

919
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: self interest, being like the most basic thing was like

920
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: introduced by Hobbs and Leviathan was seen as like super

921
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: cynical at the time that it was introduced, like not

922
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: an accurate description of humanity because we existed in like

923
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: small communities that helped each other out, but within like

924
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: a hundred years, it was the default, like assumption because

925
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: it is so profitable, it's so it's so helpful to

926
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: people to make money, and it's going to be assumed,

927
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: and it like makes us sort of shrewd logic or

928
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: sort of shrewd sense, and it like feels like the

929
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: sort of thing that's like tough and like realist, but

930
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: it's actually not. How humanity has been for the vast,

931
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: vast majority of our history is a species for the

932
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: majority of our history of the species we've been. You

933
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: know that the idea that you would just extract as

934
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: much value from humans as you possibly can is rightly

935
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: seen as like colonizing. It's the Yeah, it's the foundation

936
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: of colonizing. Yeah, Oh, here's this group. I can push

937
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: him around. Watch this now they're they're they're making me money. Great,

938
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: move on to the next town of weeks and I'll

939
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: rinse and repeat and to dehumanize in the process. All right,

940
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

941
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: And we're back and speaking of Texas, So Matthew McConaughey

942
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: is not announced that he's going to run for governor

943
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: yet he has expressed interest, and so people are theoretically

944
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: putting out some polls to be like, if this guy ran,

945
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: we love ourselves a hat famous governor and policies. Let

946
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: me see that ass work for democracy. He's not gonna

947
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: work though, he won't work. That's where it draws the line. Yeah,

948
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: he'll just play the bongo is naked. Yeah, exactly, bongo. Yeah. Yeah,

949
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: they they're all you know, Beto Rourkey announced He's like, yo,

950
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm getting in the ring, and people are like, Okay,

951
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: he's just born to run. Yeah. What was the thing

952
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: on the cover of Vanity Fair. I was just gotta

953
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: be in it, man, I was just born from this

954
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: that one he's like in the truck like that. That Yeah,

955
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: the failed Vanity Fair spread cosplaying as a real American

956
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: folks folksy Texan guy. But yeah, there's some you know,

957
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: they said, let's do some hypothetical head to heads. Um. First,

958
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: what if Beto Rourke and Matthew McConaughey went head to head.

959
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: Who wins to matt seven percent to Beto? And they said, okay,

960
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: if he advances that round, what if it's the incumbent

961
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: Governor Greg Abbott running against the insurgent Matthew McConaughey, and

962
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: that hypothetical runoff based on this pole and again it's

963
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: very you know, loose point't even know how they did it,

964
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: but it Abbot gets thirty of the vote, Matthew McConaughey

965
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: gets forty three percent of the vote, he would be

966
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: eight points ahead. And that's just a very that's a

967
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: snapshot literally right now of probably people they just called

968
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: on the phone, and who knows how serious they were,

969
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: But it is interesting to see that it But oh,

970
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: but like when they put all three in a three

971
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: way race, but obviously that wouldn't happen because that's not

972
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: how elections work. Well, I mean, it could be like

973
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: a jungle primary or something like that, but in this

974
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: straightforward race that in that instance, Abbott gets a plurality,

975
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: so like because that they would split the vote between that.

976
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: But it also showed but which is interesting because you're

977
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: also like, oh, but it looks like some people would

978
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: go to Matt though if it came down to Matt

979
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: and Abbott. But I this is just like such a

980
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: threesome is always better when you split the vote yeah,

981
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: I totally know what you mean, But why don't you

982
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: explain it to the people, just like I have tons

983
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: of experience the reasons obviously, I know how to rock

984
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: the vote. Jack, your mustache says that it has had

985
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: a ton of three ways. Does does add some character

986
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: to my face that is completely unearned. It looks just soaked.

987
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: It could be it could be just soaked. It look

988
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: just soaked right now. I thought I cleaned it up.

989
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: That's coffee mate, Okay, it's coffee mane, it's coffee mate, asshole.

990
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: I drink it straight out of the bottle. I want

991
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: to be in it, man, I'm just born to be

992
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: in it. That was the quote on the cover of

993
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: Vanity Fair that I tell me how that's not about

994
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: a threesome and wanted Oh you just just outside of

995
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: an orgy room. You're like, hey, if you're not participating,

996
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: no staring. Okay. So as stupid as this is, that

997
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: he would possibly run like I would probably prefer him

998
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: over Abbott, right, or it's just another it's like another

999
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: American election special. You want the piece of ship or

1000
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: the person. You're like, I'd rather not two options, right?

1001
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, you know, when we've talked about

1002
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: some of the policies that he's articulated in the past,

1003
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: and you know, he's he's very like, he's like, yeah, man,

1004
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: like radicals, you gotta have your gotta have your abortions.

1005
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: You know. I definitely that you gotta get gotta get

1006
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: a bobo if you want one, and uh and that

1007
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: have your kids. I mean, if they want to get vaccinated.

1008
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: I might have to wait on that. That's when he

1009
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: starts getting a little you know, woo woo l a

1010
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: m m. Yeah, all right, well, alright, alright, a diversity.

1011
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean, and again, stranger things have happened. I mean,

1012
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger was our literal fucking govern nurse. What about

1013
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: the fucking wrestler Jesse fucking Ventura. Shit happens. You know, Americans,

1014
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: Americans love a fucking nonsensical celebrity like situations. We don't

1015
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: care what context it's in, Like George Foreman sells grills.

1016
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: We're in love, like we don't care what the crossover is.

1017
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it almost feels like McConaughey's too high

1018
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: profile to run for governor, you know what I mean,

1019
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: It's like you could still be in movies like The

1020
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: Mother people like, yeah, I not to say shorts, I

1021
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: mean shorts and Agger was very at his prime. But

1022
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: like in this day and age of celebrities running, I

1023
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: feel like we need to go like two levels below

1024
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: to see like, you know, I don't know who who

1025
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: that person would be, but yeah, like little Flip, I

1026
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: wanted to I wanted to be an all little ticket

1027
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: flip yahdi, let's get it pop in Nazas, you know

1028
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. Has a celebrity who's not kind of

1029
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: right leaning ever one the it seems like they're very

1030
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: successful on the right. You got your Reagans, your Ronald's Reagan,

1031
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: You're Ventura, your Schwarzenegga, But like who who is centrist

1032
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: and has one like neo cons? I feel like neo

1033
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: CON's reject this idea because they're not neo cons. Neo

1034
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: libs reject this idea because they're all straight a students

1035
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: like we talked about, so they like want to believe that.

1036
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: Come on, man, this is serious business. You have to

1037
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: you have to study economics, stick to the pot, right. Yeah,

1038
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: I just feel like this won't go as well. But

1039
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 1: the fact that he appeals to the right as well.

1040
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: Might might make it work, but I mean, dude, Fred

1041
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: Thompson was also an actor. Al Frankins. Frank There is

1042
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: Frankins the one. Yeah yeah, okay, Franken is the answer.

1043
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: All right, So let's do a quick streaming check in.

1044
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: Squid Game still continues to dominate on the Originals charts,

1045
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: but probably how a little bit of a Christy Teagan boost?

1046
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: Am I right? Little yes? Because that's party? Yeah? I

1047
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: was there, damn it should looked tight. Also Justesse eventre.

1048
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: I think it was like Green Party or something. He's

1049
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: not He's not fully republic because he's always like nine

1050
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: or leven was done by goblins, you know, rightful, like

1051
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: you feel like you're like I feel like maybe libertarian

1052
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: or am I yeah? Maybe I just a party? He

1053
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: was Independence Party from two thousand, two thousand three, Reform

1054
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: Party from two thousand. He was an independent before and

1055
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: then from two thousand. I think all that to say

1056
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: opportunistic weirdo? Was he leftist? Am I just like? Because

1057
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: I was such a fucking like just eight everything that

1058
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: the mainstream media told me like, is that why I

1059
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: think he was? I don't ever remember him being portrayed

1060
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: as lefty, right, not really, but I mean he I

1061
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: think maybe because he would be like the Bush administration

1062
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: is out of control, and you're like, oh, okay, I

1063
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: would be even more efficient. You're like, it's contextual. I

1064
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: guess you're right. There's way crazier people. Now. I mean

1065
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: he's not like Cinema or something. No, no, no, but

1066
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: I mean he for the most part, he said like

1067
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: he his like quote was like George W. Bush was

1068
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: the worst president of my lifetime. Yeah, well that's that's facts. Yeah,

1069
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: I guess so I meant to that point. Yeah, And

1070
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: then when Pierce Morgan asked him about nine eleven, he said,

1071
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: my theory of nine eleven is that we certainly at

1072
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: the best we knew what was going to happen. They

1073
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: allowed it to happen to further their agenda in the

1074
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: Middle East and to go to these wars. That's not

1075
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: the very least, but that's a plausible possible ability. I guess. Yeah.

1076
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: But I know again, I'm sure Zake Kingle toss and

1077
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: he's like, none, check out this hot take on Brianna Taylor,

1078
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, I don't know. But all that

1079
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: to say, I don't know enough and I don't care enough.

1080
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: So Netflix is monitoring streaming these days and they're telling us,

1081
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: you know what, people are actually watching Netflix dominating the originals. Uh,

1082
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: it's basically on Netflix except for only Murders in the

1083
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: Building and Ted Lasso. Everything else in the top ten

1084
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: is Netflix m but on the acquired front. Acquired, which

1085
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: is like, you know, shows that they brought over that

1086
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: were not original programming. They are the top ten. But

1087
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: they also like, so Shameless is number one, Coco Melon

1088
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: number two, in the Dark number three, I wasn't even

1089
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: like that didn't jog anything for me. Oh yeah, it's

1090
01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: The Blind Woman, got it okay? And Seinfeld a number four,

1091
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: which signs like just dropped. I think they were and

1092
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: the money they spent on that, they were expecting that

1093
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: to be like a Friends Slash the Office style like phenomenon.

1094
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: I think they forget that those are escapism shows and

1095
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: that is not Yeah. Seinfeld is is like the world

1096
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: is terrible and people are selfish and like let's laugh

1097
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: at it. People are not ready for that, right, They're like,

1098
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: we want hugs. What's the show that's hugs? So thank you?

1099
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: I want to live in New York in jobs don't

1100
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: matter Friends, Yeah, exactly. I just want to worry, worry

1101
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: about whether Ross and Rachel are going to end up together.

1102
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, worry about whether I

1103
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: see a lot of these selfish tendencies in myself. I mean,

1104
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: I think hilarious. But that's why I think Curb is

1105
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: like its own little world, because not everybody likes that.

1106
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: If it makes you look upset and nervous when that

1107
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: kind of stuff happens, then it's not the show for you,

1108
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: whereas Friends is so much more and The Office so

1109
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: much more easily like calming. Yeah, and I feel like

1110
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: comfort food with with Seinfeld there's more. It was like

1111
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: more influential. First of all, like Got it was, it

1112
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: was more original at the time that it came out,

1113
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: and then now like I feel like it's influenced. First

1114
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: of all, obviously Curbs like just a spiritual successor that

1115
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: like does a lot of the things Seinfeldt did, but

1116
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: like in a more pure form um. But also I

1117
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: just feel like it was like seinfeld was probably more

1118
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: influential on like the comedy writers of the world than

1119
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: like Friends or The Office, And so now like in

1120
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: the same way that like Belushi was great and super original,

1121
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: but never really like translated to later generations because he

1122
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: was like so influential on like Farley and like a

1123
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: lot of those people that, like, I feel like people

1124
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: didn't really get it as much. Like I wonder if

1125
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: Seinfeld has more thoroughly like infiltrated the culture to the

1126
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: point that now it feels like an earlier version of

1127
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: something that we've already seen like executed super well with

1128
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: like Arrested Development and you know shows like that that

1129
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: are uber despicful people. But like that's the that's the

1130
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: whole joke. I like that theory. I I there there's

1131
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,919
Speaker 1: something I don't know. I think. Yeah, like your point

1132
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: about Seinfeld being like a like a comedy, like for

1133
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: comedy people, people like it's pretty They're like, yeah, man,

1134
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: there's like there's the Seinfeld things are like my favorite

1135
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: pieces of comedy or whatever. And you understand, like so

1136
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: many writers do talk about the way Seinfeld was written

1137
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: and like the like their whole writing style, especially of

1138
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: like making scenes of like stuffing the sausage as they

1139
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: called it, of like just taking the dumbest premise and

1140
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: just cramming as much drama into the stupidest nothing you

1141
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: can do to make that just explode with over emphasis

1142
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: and like that was sort of like the engine of it.

1143
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: And it's also very like improv derived, Like it's pretty

1144
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: much every episode is a herald because like which is

1145
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: like that the long form. I'm so sorry everyone, Yeah,

1146
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 1: but you know it's where they said the ten poles

1147
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: fought far apart and then the end they come together

1148
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: in ways that are unexpected. So you know, that's that

1149
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: was like a classic thing, the thing that they had

1150
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 1: mentioned about the one thing is going to come back

1151
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: always at the end and be the thing that fox

1152
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: this other thing up. And I think the way that

1153
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: they did that consistently every episode was like pretty marketable. Yeah,

1154
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: and if you're aspiring, right, I think for you know,

1155
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 1: kids that grew up in the nineties, you're like look back,

1156
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: You're like, damn, like this is really like the people

1157
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: want to emulate that. And I feel like maybe because

1158
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: of that influence, like you're saying, it's it's coming back

1159
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: out again for like, you know, just people to recapture

1160
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: their love of it, or younger people being like, oh,

1161
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: it's just chooky ship. All the old people talking about

1162
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: science felt and then it's like, what are you doing? Alright?

1163
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: This is this is my final play? Seinfeld himself not

1164
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't know man going in the same direction many

1165
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: older comics who like don't understand why people don't like

1166
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: them anymore, Like old ass old Man takes very specific

1167
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: to the nineties with just his like style, and people

1168
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about cereal again, right, yeah, yeah,

1169
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: And you know, like this MPR article about like why

1170
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: it might not hit quite as hard as Friends makes

1171
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: the point about Mike Michael Richards, which obviously, like his

1172
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: you know, racist screed on stage, makes his performance harder

1173
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: to endy why but I also think, like a, I

1174
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: think we're giving America way too much credit. Are you

1175
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: fucking kidding? Sure? Yeah, yeah, that's what's ruining it for people.

1176
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, he was racist one time. Yeah, Okay, Woody

1177
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: Allen and she gets to make movies. Mel Gibson out

1178
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: here saying I hope he get raped by a bunch

1179
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: of animals. Louisa Louie and Dave Chappelle has got a

1180
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: Grammy nomed. You can't touch me, Yeah, Dan, don't cancel me. Recently,

1181
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: you can't cancel me if the show is already. Kid,

1182
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: we didn't cancel it. We decided to end it on

1183
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 1: our own. I've never been canceled. He's uh yeah, someone

1184
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: recently was talking. His name was in the headlines again

1185
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: because another comedy was like, I don't care for him

1186
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: much because of his proclivity for younger women back in

1187
01:10:55,240 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, he dated a dated quotes. It was

1188
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: called at the time a high school students, not statutory rape. Yeah,

1189
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: it was he hey whoa who publicly a high school student? Yeah,

1190
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 1: And they were like, look, how fun he's picking up

1191
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 1: his girlfriend at her school or whatever. You're like bringing

1192
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: here to a ni Like he's grooming a minor before

1193
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: everyone's eyes. But because he has like a kind of

1194
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: a mullet, everyone's school. And then everyone was like, well,

1195
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: it's it makes sense. She has big titties. I was like,

1196
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: do you hear yourself? Yeah? What do you mean? Like

1197
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: my hearing? But yeah, she has big titties. I'm sorry,

1198
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: she's an adult. Oh my god. Yeah, well Seinfeld he's

1199
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: laughing on his gigantic piles of cash. Yeah, and they

1200
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: think Steve Bannon too, that we we get Steve Bannon

1201
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: because of Steinfeld. Also, yeah, what what was that story again,

1202
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: the publisher was like, yeah, like one of the production

1203
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: companies that like sold the rights to it, he had

1204
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: a stake in it, so he got a piece of

1205
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: like this huge payout for like the like when I

1206
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: went to syndication, like mass indication, there was like some

1207
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: So he became very wealthy from his his associate from

1208
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: his failed Hollywood career, and that gave him a lot

1209
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: of money. And who knows where we'd be if that

1210
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 1: didn't happen. But either way, America is gonna America with

1211
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: or without Steve Bannon. Yeah, as bad as the Michael

1212
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: Richards take that, like people aren't watching it because of

1213
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: the racism. And PR also has the take that it's

1214
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: set in a shockingly white New York City and that's

1215
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: why people aren't enjoying it because I know they're like, yeah,

1216
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: have you seen Friends? Aisha Tyler holds down that entire

1217
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: show for the entirety of time as the only black person. Yeah,

1218
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: simpler times, Yeah, because like what did what's the did

1219
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: he ever date a personal color want of color on

1220
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: this show? I don't think so. I don't think so. No, Jerry, No,

1221
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 1: he would never mhm, he would never do you remember

1222
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: there's that one episode where Elaine thinks that the guy

1223
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: she's dating is a person of color and she just

1224
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: doesn't know what and and that guy thinks she is too,

1225
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: and then when they both find out that they're white,

1226
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: they're very disappointed and they're like, what do you want

1227
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: to do and goes all right, I don't know, let's

1228
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: go to the gap, which is the only time they

1229
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: address the racing the ever so, the one that ages

1230
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: so well, the Cigar Store Indian episode, Oh there you go. Yeah,

1231
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: And then I'm trying to think of anything else that

1232
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: made super anyone wrong with that, Like, there's plenty of

1233
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: what about all the transphobic stuff? Friends was like, oh yeah, yeah,

1234
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,560
Speaker 1: it's like he's a cross dresser and you're like and

1235
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: he like hated hated. Remember lines were always like I'm

1236
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: fucked up and the reason I can't have intimacy is

1237
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 1: it turns out my dad was fucking my piano teacher

1238
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: and he's a girl. That was like m hmm, yeah right.

1239
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:13,560
Speaker 1: Brought to you by the same people who wrote the

1240
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: Cheers name song that has that weird line in it. Yeah,

1241
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: there's like and you're's like, what is it it's the

1242
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: it's the long version, like the verse that wasn't on

1243
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: the TV show. Okay. I was like, how I missed

1244
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: something from Everybody Knows Your Name? Part? Yeah, there was

1245
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: a if you're what that's the part they cut. It's

1246
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: where is it? It's like something really like a woman

1247
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: being a man or something like that, and that being

1248
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: like a point of stress. That's why I gotta go

1249
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: to cheers with friends because I just didn't watch it

1250
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: for the reasons. I was like, well, I don't see

1251
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: myself in this show, so I'm gonna keep watching Wayne's

1252
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: Brothers or Jamie Fox Show or something like that. I remember,

1253
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: like her majesty, she'd be like when you know, when

1254
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: we were first dating, She's like, oh, you don't watch Friends.

1255
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: I'm like nah, and she she was watching in the

1256
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: background once and I came in. It was one of

1257
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: those episodes where Kathleen Turner is playing Chandler's mom, and

1258
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on? And like and then

1259
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: I was just watching them just talk about it and

1260
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, this is fucked up, Like what is this?

1261
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: Like yeah, this this doesn't age well at all, And

1262
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm like wow, okay, but look all shows have I mean,

1263
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 1: it's wild to watch a lot of stuff. I recently

1264
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: started watching things that were sort of like formative for me,

1265
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: like sitcoms, just to kind of like understand, like how

1266
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 1: much I can't believe how much The Fresh Prince of

1267
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: Bell are like formed my entire like like mental Scape.

1268
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: But there's also like ones with like like you also

1269
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: like watch Jamie Fox Show and they're like, okay, bro,

1270
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 1: like you are you are not about consent at all.

1271
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: It's just a fucking punchline the whole time, and you're

1272
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: like just start watching these things. You're like, wow, these

1273
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: were very subtle things that we were taking in. Also,

1274
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: we were so brainwashed that entire time. For on the

1275
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox Show, we were cheering for Jamie Fox who

1276
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: just would not leave this fucking poor woman alone and

1277
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: like just ruined her life by sexually harassing her at work. Fancy.

1278
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 1: But then but then they're like no, and then you

1279
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: were down and it works out. Hey, hey, fellas, you

1280
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: get it. Wear them down, wear them down. Oh that's

1281
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: the word your husband wants to be a girl. That's

1282
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: the one. Yeah, it's roll out of bed. Mr Coffee

1283
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: is Dead. The Morning's looking bright, Andrew shrank rant off

1284
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: to Europe and didn't even right, and your husband wants

1285
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: to be a girl. It doesn't even really work in

1286
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: the thing, doesn't It just sounds like the writer was

1287
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: trying to work out a personal problem, right, Yeah, well on, friends,

1288
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.

1289
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 1: Please like and review the show. If you like the show,

1290
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: uh means the world of Miles. He needs your validation, folks.

1291
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will

1292
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By