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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday aratorres

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: It is eleven pm Eastern Time. So jmart fun story.

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Speaker 2: So I was out last week. I think you were too.

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Speaker 2: I I was traveling all week. I just opened up

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Speaker 2: my backpack to pull out my headphones. Apparently I grabbed

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Speaker 2: a banana from the UH buffet in the morning and

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Speaker 2: forgot it was in there. I got like a ten

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Speaker 2: day old banana that I just found in my backpack. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so so much like James Madison and Twulane. You know,

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Speaker 2: my saturdays have been better. Uh, but uh, that's what's

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Speaker 2: currently going on in my world. First of all, I

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Speaker 2: was out last week. I hope everything's okay with you.

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Speaker 2: I know Arnie and Arnie and VJ held down the spot.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping you just had maybe a little tick in

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Speaker 3: And dude, it was rough. There's a pretty bad stomach

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Speaker 3: bug going around around the country, but really around this area.

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Speaker 3: And my daughter, my four year old, caught it on

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Speaker 3: Thursday of last week and I was home with her.

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Speaker 3: She wasn't able to go to school a day, so

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Speaker 3: I was home with her all day, and then I

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Speaker 3: was there with her all day on Friday as well,

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Speaker 3: and she kind of got better Friday and everything was fine,

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Speaker 3: and my wife and I went to bed and I

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Speaker 3: I don't think I feel quite right. And I went

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Speaker 3: to grab a trash can from the bathroom because I thought, okay,

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Speaker 3: I might need this. I'm bit and get it now.

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Speaker 3: And the trash can was gone, and so I came

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Speaker 3: back and I laid down in the bed and I

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Speaker 3: had gotten a second trash can, and my wife just

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Speaker 3: leans over and she says, are you feeling nauseous? And

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Speaker 3: I said yeah, she said me too. We caught it simultaneously,

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Speaker 3: oh no, and then my one year old caught it

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Speaker 3: about two in the afternoon, so literally we were all

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Speaker 3: down with it. My mother in law had to come

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Speaker 3: over and take the four year old now that she

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Speaker 3: was well, because I literally could not get out of

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Speaker 3: it worse than she did, no question about that, but man,

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Speaker 3: I would not advise it. If you have a chance

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Speaker 3: to get it pass because it was one of the

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Speaker 3: worst stomach viruses I have ever had. I literally had

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Speaker 3: a leg cramp for nine hours straight that I couldn't

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Speaker 3: get rid of. But I was feeling so miserable. I

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Speaker 3: just laid there with the leg cramp dehydrated because if

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, did your four year old when

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Speaker 2: everybody went down? Did she pull the captain phillips? I'm

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Speaker 2: the captain now and just start, you know, home alone?

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Speaker 3: Ordering She no, She's just like, can you play with me?

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Speaker 3: And we were like, listen, we need to explain something

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Speaker 3: to you. You caught this fast, which means you're doing well.

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Speaker 3: Mommy and daddy are not doing well. I wasn't right

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Speaker 3: eron until Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Damn man, it was rough.

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Speaker 3: Brother. So yeah, let's let's just say I would have

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Speaker 3: rather been on the air last week with Arnie.

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Speaker 2: He would have given you a different turn of how

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Speaker 2: mad the virus was. Yes, yeah, you would. You would

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Speaker 2: have come down with something else having worked for three

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Speaker 2: hours with Arnie Spanier. But I do appreciate, and I

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Speaker 2: know you appreciate as well. Arnie filling in sure with

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Speaker 2: VJ last week and yeah, sorry, we couldn't be there.

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Speaker 2: I was traveling, Jason. I'm guessing it sounds like you

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Speaker 2: sound you sound great, you sound good to go. Okay, now, okay,

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Speaker 2: well very good. Well I'm glad you're feeling better. And

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Speaker 2: let's get to the topic of the day. Well, really,

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Speaker 2: there's multiple The NFL games are coming to an end.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay is currently up on the Chicago Bears sixteen

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Speaker 2: to nine. The Bears have just scored. There are under

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Speaker 2: two minutes to go, so we'll keep you updated on that,

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Speaker 2: and certainly as that game goes final, we'll talk ramifications.

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Speaker 2: Let's tell college football, j Mart and you know, so

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Speaker 2: I'll say this is that I do think there are

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Speaker 2: the you know, thrillers probably not the perfect word to

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Speaker 2: shocking upset of the of the Texas A and m Aggie's.

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Speaker 2: They win ten to three. A late Malachi Tony touchdown

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Speaker 2: don't know if I'm wrong for doing this. It does

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Speaker 2: feel like though, with just about everything final. Obviously, Alabama

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Speaker 3: So to Lane actually improved. They lost in the season

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Speaker 2: We could see the impact of Lane Kiff and not

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Speaker 2: conversation that I'm seeing right now about this college football

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Speaker 2: Playoff unfortunately wasn't isn't a very entertaining game from Friday night,

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Speaker 2: It isn't a very entertaining game from Saturday afternoon. It

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Speaker 2: is the fact that we did have two group of

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Speaker 2: handle themselves well. And it feels like the public is

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Speaker 2: ready to move on from G five's in the college

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Speaker 2: share your opinion on this.

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Speaker 3: So two weeks ago, you asked me, was I happy

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Speaker 3: And I said yeah, because if you if you're not

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Speaker 3: And then James Madison got in on Sunday and I

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Speaker 3: College Football Playoff. I was happy about that. Then we

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Speaker 3: So I'm interested to see exactly where this conversation leads.

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Speaker 3: But I just my position changes based on information when

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Speaker 3: don't think that's it. I think it's just seeing. It's

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Speaker 3: and you're watching these you just think to yourself and look,

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Speaker 3: I saw what Joel Klatt had said during the course

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Speaker 3: it was just I hate the fact that James Madison

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Speaker 3: just shouldn't be playing. Can I jump in on this. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: go right hood.

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Speaker 2: They would not be remembered at all if they did

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Speaker 2: not play in this game. It's just the truth. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you can say they're, oh, well, let's play this G

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Speaker 2: I think everybody knows. By the way, I should mention,

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Speaker 2: the Bears have recovered an on side kick in Soldier Field.

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Speaker 2: And this is very much a ballgame. It was sixteen

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Speaker 2: I just I cut you off, so I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna give it back to you. I don't think James

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of layers to this. I think

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Speaker 2: if you asked the James Madison players, and by the way, Ian,

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Speaker 2: do we could just give me a thumbs up thumbs down,

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Speaker 2: because I was gonna say that would be an interesting conversation.

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Speaker 2: Would you rather have a G five playoff that you

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Speaker 2: But NETT have an opportunity in this, but never know

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Speaker 2: how you actually stacked up against an Oregon, Ohio State

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Speaker 2: are a lot of layers to it. I cut you off,

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Speaker 2: but I don't think a G five playoff is the answer.

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Speaker 2: I'll just be quick because I want to get it

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Speaker 2: back to you. I think this was a very strange

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Speaker 2: you could say they don't belong but guess what, Tulan

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Speaker 2: actually beat the ACC champ this year. So I could

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Speaker 2: go on and on, but I just think generally they're

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Speaker 2: going to take up one spot. Yes, it was bad today,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't mean it will be bad next time. And

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Speaker 2: I think there's a bigger issue of why do we

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Speaker 2: constantly in college football there's an existential crisis every year

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Speaker 2: in the postseas. No matter what happens, everything has to

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Speaker 2: be blown up and done over again. I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't I I wish we lived in a world

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Speaker 2: where both of these teams did not get in. That's

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Speaker 2: more of an ACC problem than a college football Playoff problem.

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Speaker 2: But I'll just be quick. The whole reason we expanded

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Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff was so that everybody had a

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Speaker 2: years in to say, Okay, that was fun for two years,

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Speaker 2: but now let's just give the spot to the sixth

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Speaker 2: best SEC team or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, you gamway, all right, So in theory, I

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Speaker 3: understand what you're saying. But here's my problem. Make an

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Speaker 3: argument to me right now that you are seeing even

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Speaker 3: twelve of the best thirty teams in a country, because

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Speaker 3: there's no way that you can argue that James Madison

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Speaker 3: and Tulane really play the same football that everybody else

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Speaker 3: is playing, like, I mean really like Tulane had one

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Speaker 3: and it was against Old Miss, and they lost by

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Speaker 3: thirty five points or thirty four points, I guess.

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Speaker 2: I mean they'd beat the ACC champion the regular seat.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so you look at all of that. You

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Speaker 3: as well if you want to. But I'm looking at

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Speaker 3: this that I'm saying they're playing two different sports in

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Speaker 2: I can absolutely argue it. I mean, we have automatic

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that should be gone too.

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Speaker 3: She literally right right now, she looks. She walked into

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Speaker 3: She said, why is James Madison the college football Playoff?

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Speaker 2: It makes perfect sense because every other sport has automatic qualifiers,

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Speaker 3: Completely unique compared to all the sports that you want

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Speaker 2: You can say that, but that doesn't mean that it's

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Speaker 2: They not only get an automatic qualifier, they get home

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would disagree with that part. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: So then by your definition that we should you know,

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Speaker 3: Really you just wish you'd take the top twelve and

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's and in your defense, I think

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, you never know. I mean, if we

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Speaker 2: We all watched it. It was a blood bats. So, like,

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Speaker 2: James Madison back in the red zone. They're about to

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Speaker 2: say it was fully entertaining. It was weirdly entertaining, but

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Speaker 2: not dramatic. Good word. I like that. It's a good word.

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Speaker 2: All Right, We're gonna come back discuss Texas A and

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Speaker 2: m Miami. The Hurricanes get the victory, maybe a little

437
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Speaker 2: bit on Friday nights. Alabama comeback and we will keep

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Speaker 2: you updated on what is going going on at Soldier Field.

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Speaker 2: Packers Bears tied at sixteen apiece. Ertors Jason Martin, Fox

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. It will be

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Speaker 2: Felice Navidad and Merry Christmas in Chicago. In overtime, forced

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Speaker 2: fumble by the Bears defense, Caleb Williams deep ball to

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Speaker 2: DJ Moore, an incredible catch over his shoulder, a walk

462
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Speaker 2: off win for the Chicago Bears. Final score twenty two

463
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Speaker 2: to sixteen. Chicago Bears. They were by technicality alone in

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Speaker 2: first place. They had a half a game lead over

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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. They are now eleven and four.

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Speaker 2: The Packers fall to nine five and one on the season.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure I'm making I'm making sure

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Speaker 2: they haven't updated the standings. Either way, the Chicago Bears

470
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Speaker 2: have won. They've now won eleven of thirteen. Jay mart

471
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: give me all the Bears takeaways. From a walk off

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Speaker 2: overtime win.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they keep winning. Look that they've won some

474
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Speaker 3: close ball games and you have to look at that

475
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Speaker 3: and say, is that something that's going to continue?

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Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't ean it for like ten weeks.

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Speaker 3: Right, can it continue this year? I don't know if

478
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Speaker 3: that's a long time sustainable thing. But the first thing

479
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Speaker 3: you have to do is start winning close games. You

480
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: have to start winning games period. If you're the Chicago Bears,

481
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Speaker 3: you look up there eleven and four Green Bays lost

482
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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons. They're doing now with Jordan Love and concussion protocol.

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Speaker 3: You know, you had a bad snap on that fourth

484
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Speaker 3: down after Malik Willis was unable to get the first

485
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Speaker 3: down on the third and short. Maybe that could have

486
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Speaker 3: gone the other way, but they elect to go for it,

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Speaker 3: which I don't really disagree with. And then Chicago has

488
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Speaker 3: just continued to do this. And look, when we talked

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Speaker 3: about the NFC North a few weeks ago, I said,

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Speaker 3: I still feel like Detroit might be able to get

491
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Speaker 3: this thing. I don't anymore. Like I just I think

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Speaker 3: at this point you can go ahead and say Chicago

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Speaker 3: is going to win the division. Ben Johnson has done

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Speaker 3: what he needs to do, and Caleb Williams has stepped

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Speaker 3: up and gotten better.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Is he fully consistent yet? No, but is he's starting

498
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Speaker 3: to show some of the flashes of the Heisman guy

499
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Speaker 3: that we saw, the one that made some big time plays,

500
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Speaker 3: made some throws. Yes. I see a confidence in Caleb

501
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Speaker 3: Williams now that was entirely absent from him during his

502
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Speaker 3: first year. And that has to go to Ben Johnson

503
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Speaker 3: in this offense. I mean, you gotta think they didn't

504
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: have and you heard Di Seger say this off the

505
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Speaker 3: top and his update, they didn't have Roba dunes Ay,

506
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Speaker 3: they didn't have Luther Burden. Yes, they still had DJ

507
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Speaker 3: Moore as we know, but they were shorthanded a little

508
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Speaker 3: bit in this game offensively. They still come out win

509
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Speaker 3: a big time division game in primetime in front of

510
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Speaker 3: their home crowd. It's just a it's a it's a

511
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Speaker 3: really really good season for the Chicago Bears in a

512
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Speaker 3: conference where when you really look at it, they can

513
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Speaker 3: they can do some damage in the playoffs, but a

514
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Speaker 3: total success. I think this is beyond anybody's wildest dreams

515
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Speaker 3: what they were going to do from this year, from

516
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Speaker 3: last year to this year. But the growth and the

517
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Speaker 3: way the offense plays. Now you can just see the

518
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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson effect working its magic.

519
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Speaker 2: Well, there's no doubt the Ben Johnson effect is real.

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Speaker 2: Couple quick thoughts.

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Speaker 3: One.

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Speaker 2: First of all, we do have a final in Austin Stadium, Eugene, Oregon.

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Speaker 2: Oregon does end up winning fifty one to thirty four.

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Speaker 3: Rip to the to the Gamblers. We're still watching the

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Speaker 3: game because twenty point spread.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, you're right. I hadn't even thought of that.

527
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Speaker 3: That's why a lot of people are probably still watching

528
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Speaker 3: that game.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is a great point. Oregon was about a

530
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty and a half point favorite in this game,

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Speaker 2: a late James Madison touchdown with the cover. It was

532
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: never really close, it was never really competitive. We already

533
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Speaker 2: did the conversation about G five, so we'll save that

534
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Speaker 2: for another time. Let's let's by the way college football

535
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 2: quarterfinals are set. Maybe we even talked about that a

536
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: little bit later with Oregon, Miami, Ole Miss and Alabama advancing. Okay,

537
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: so NFL Coggo Bears have just won a walk off

538
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: in in Soldier Field. Twenty two to sixteen is the

539
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: final score? I guess my question for you is a

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00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: couple fold one. First of all, I agree with everything

541
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Speaker 2: you said, Bears. To let me ask you this. I

542
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: don't know how like all these NFL awards come together. Whatever.

543
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: Mike Frable, what he's doing in New England is incredible.

544
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: I think what Ben Johnson is doing in Chicago. And

545
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: this isn't one where like I want to tear down

546
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: one to elevate the other. But Chicago has basically like

547
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: a forty year track record of kind of being a

548
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: train wreck. I know they made a Super Bowl with

549
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: her Locker and all that, but like they have been

550
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 2: just such an inconsistent organization and for him to come

551
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: in in year one, They've now won eleven of their

552
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: last thirteen games, eleven and four overall. They basically unofficially

553
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: clinched the division tonight. It's not technical, but with two

554
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: games left they would basically have to lose both and whatever,

555
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah. I only bring it up.

556
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: I think Ben Johnson should be the Coach of the Year.

557
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: And I know this isn't an a war, but I

558
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: do think the Bears are the best story, just given

559
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: where they were and given you know, j Martin, all

560
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: of the conversations that we were having a year ago

561
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: about Caleb, and like it's easy to forget now remember

562
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: the Caleb versus Jayden Daniels and the Bears took the

563
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: wrong guy, and you know what if he's just a

564
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: bust And I just think it's a really cool story

565
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: and I'm happy for Bears fans. We know how passionate

566
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Speaker 2: Chicago sports fans are. Again, I know there's no award

567
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Speaker 2: for best story in the NFL. I think the Bears are.

568
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: It's just an unbelievable story what they're doing right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. Look, there's some other contenders out there,

570
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Speaker 3: Like I think he and Veribel are certainly rightly there

571
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: No one talks about Liam Cohen, but totally really look

572
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: at what Jacksonville is doing and what their offense is doing. Specifically,

573
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Speaker 3: that's a ten and four team that's playing in one

574
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: of the Marquee Games in Denver tomorrow. And look, Sean

575
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: Payton's got a two loss team, right, So I mean

576
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Speaker 3: I think that that's probably worth mentioning on top of

577
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: this as well. So I mean there are some other

578
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: guys that you could throw in and McDonald of course,

579
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Speaker 3: and McVeigh and what they've done in Seattle and la

580
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: are both there too. But to your point, I tend

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Speaker 3: to agree with you because the Bears were such a

582
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: laughing stock and because Caleb Williams in year one didn't

583
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Speaker 3: show the flashes that Drake May did. Like Mike Rabel,

584
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Speaker 3: taking the job in New England made all the sense

585
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: for you know, because he played there and everything else,

586
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: but also because he was able to pick his spot

587
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: and he knew watching last year that Drake May could

588
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: do they could do the job. That was something he

589
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: didn't even really even have at any point in Tennessee.

590
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: And he looked there and said, oh, this is perfect.

591
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: But Caleb Williams was he had lost confidence everybody. To

592
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Speaker 3: your point, we're talking about both Daniels and Drake May,

593
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: and so Ben Johnson is going to a team that's

594
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: been quarterback purgatory for forty years basically, well really since

595
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: Jim McMahon and those teams in like the mid eighties.

596
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: Outside of like Jay Cutler, that's about the best that

597
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: you've had. You had Rex Grossman when he went to

598
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl and lost to Peyton Manning in the rain.

599
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: So I think I think I agree with you. I

600
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: think I think it almost has to be Ben Johnson,

601
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: especially if they finished strong. But I think that this

602
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 3: year you have several candidates where the argument is strong

603
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: because there have been some really nice coaching jobs in

604
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: some spots that we did not see coming this year.

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Speaker 2: Let's really quick put a boa. You know what, I

606
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: got one more question on the Bears. Let's save it

607
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: for the other end. We also probably should at least

608
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: reference the fact that there was a game earlier in

609
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Speaker 2: the day, so we will get to all of that

610
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Speaker 2: before we do, though, Let's get it over the news desk.

611
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Speaker 2: Stave to sag or what is trending? My friend?

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Speaker 6: You're of course talking about Tulane earlier in the day.

613
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Speaker 6: We will go into depth or or no, I was you?

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Speaker 3: Tulane lost to no Lane?

615
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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Tulanes are better than none are apparently not.

616
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Speaker 6: Fan headline not come up before. Yeah, Tulane is out,

617
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Speaker 6: James Madison is out, Ole miss by Tulane forty one

618
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Speaker 6: to ten, Oregon over James Madison fifty one thirty four,

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Speaker 6: and Miami got the late touchdown to win at Texas

620
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Speaker 6: A and m ten to three. So College Football Playoffs,

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Speaker 6: first round is over Alabama with the comeback win last night.

622
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Speaker 6: Now can we get to this NFL game tonight? My goodness,

623
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Speaker 6: The Chicago Bears win another thriller, this time in overtime

624
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Speaker 6: against rival Green Bay twenty two to sixteen. Caleb Williams

625
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Speaker 6: with two late touchdown passes, including the game winner to

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Speaker 6: DJ Moore of forty six yards, and can I just

627
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Speaker 6: say the defensive back Keishawn Nixon was all over yeah,

628
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Speaker 6: and still it was the.

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Speaker 2: Reception, unbelievable throw, unbelievable cats.

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Speaker 6: And it was Nixon who had the pick in the

631
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Speaker 6: end zone. Couple weeks back in this game at Green

632
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Speaker 6: Bay and this met Now they meet at Soldier Field

633
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Speaker 6: and Chicago is the winner in a comeback because with

634
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Speaker 6: two minutes left the Bears were down sixteen to six,

635
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Speaker 6: and they win in overtime and kicking themselves all the

636
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Speaker 6: way home. Will be the Packers offense because for that franchise,

637
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 6: it's the first time in almost twenty years that they

638
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 6: have failed to score a touchdown on three different goal

639
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Speaker 6: to go drives in the same game. They had three

640
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Speaker 6: short field goals and a fumble also from Josh Jacobs

641
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Speaker 6: in the red zone, and the Packers lose in ot

642
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Speaker 6: So with the final pass that puts the Bear stats

643
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Speaker 6: at an even four hundred yards for the night, two

644
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Speaker 6: fifty passing and one fifty on the ground, and the

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Speaker 6: Chicago Bears are eleven and four. They're the two seed

646
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Speaker 6: in the NFC. Seattle or perhaps whomever wins the NFC

647
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Speaker 6: West would be one seed. A game ahead is Seattle.

648
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Speaker 6: Right now, the Eagles, with a win earlier today, are

649
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Speaker 6: division champs and right now the three seed a game

650
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Speaker 6: behind the Bears. And we've almost got the Bears officially

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Speaker 6: clinching a pay playoff spot. That could happen tomorrow with

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Speaker 6: still two games to go for everybody. If Detroit loses tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: Even if Detroit wins tomorrow, they would be nine and

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Speaker 6: six and the Lions would still be half game back

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Speaker 6: of green Bay for the final playoffs. But in the NFC,

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Speaker 6: quarterback Jordan Love of the Packers left in the first

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Speaker 6: half with a concussion on a roughing the passer penalty.

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Speaker 6: Green Bay now nine five and one, and I've got

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Speaker 6: to mention that part of this comeback for Chicago something

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Speaker 6: that is extremely rare in the NFL these days. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: great call, cup An onside kick recovery. The Bears got

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Speaker 6: the field goal to get within sixteen to nine and

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Speaker 6: then recovered the onside kick. Remember, you have to declare

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Speaker 6: that you're doing an on side kick, so you get

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Speaker 6: the traditional formation for it. In the NFL this year,

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Speaker 6: attempting onside kicks, the kicking team was four for forty

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Speaker 6: seven recovering the thing eight percent recoveries until the Bears,

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Speaker 6: as part of their comeback tonight.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 6: Philadelphia is now ten and five after the comeback win

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Speaker 6: at Washington twenty nine to eighteen. Eagles were down late

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Speaker 6: third quarter ten to seven. Jalen Hurts two touchdown passes,

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Speaker 6: the Eagles clinched their division. OH team had won the

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Speaker 6: NFC East in back to back years since Philadelphia about

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Speaker 6: twenty years ago. Saquon Barkley one hundred and thirty two

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Speaker 6: yards rushing and a score, the Rams fired their special

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Speaker 6: teams coordinator, Chase Blackburn. La special teams have helped cause

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Speaker 6: three of the four losses this season. Frams frankly would

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Speaker 6: be the one seed in the NFC without the special

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Speaker 6: teams problems I mentioned. The College Football Playoff first round

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Speaker 6: is over thanks to the Oregon win that means we

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Speaker 6: now have coming up Oregon facing Texas Tech in the

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Speaker 6: Orange Bowl quarterfinal New Year's Day, Ole Miss will play

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Speaker 6: Georgia in the Sugar Bowl quarterfinal New Year's Night. We

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Speaker 6: know Alabama, after its win last night, is headed to

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Speaker 6: the Rose Bowl for a quarterfinal against number one Indiana.

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Speaker 6: Miami will play number two Ohio State on New Year's

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Speaker 6: Eve at the Cotton Bowl in the NBA's late game.

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Speaker 6: The Lakers are missing three injured starters, They're only shooting

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Speaker 6: thirty four percent from the floor, and the Clippers six

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Speaker 6: and twenty one this year, have the home halftime lead

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Speaker 6: against the Lakers fifty four thirty nine and an upset.

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Speaker 6: In college hoops at Madison Square Garden, nineteenth ranked Texas

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Speaker 6: Tech beat number three Duke on a late free throw

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Speaker 6: eighty two eighty one.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, by the way, speaking of those college

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Speaker 2: football quarterfinals still a ways away. Jason Martin and I

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Speaker 2: filling in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon, so we

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Speaker 2: will be on obviously during that Sugar Bowl and for.

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Speaker 3: We've done it before.

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Speaker 2: We have done it before a couple of years in

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Speaker 2: a row, and it's one of my favorite shows to

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Speaker 2: do with you all year, my man.

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Speaker 6: So New Year's night you're talking? Yes, well you be

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Speaker 6: here to say, I do not know yet. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna put in a word.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell I'll ask Arney spand here if you're allowed

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Speaker 2: to work that night, and we'll see if we get that.

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Speaker 6: A waste of time on your part.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, anyway, we got a lot of radio to

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Speaker 2: do between now and January first, but j Martin, I

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Speaker 2: will be there, tell you what, Jamartin, Let's come back

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Speaker 2: and let's put a bow on a busy night in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. There is still another college football playoff game

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Speaker 2: to discuss. A busy week for narratives in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs Bengals, Joe Burrows Future two Future? How are we

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Speaker 2: gonna fit it all?

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Speaker 3: In?

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Speaker 2: Between now and two am Eastern Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Two NFL games are in

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Speaker 2: the book, but guess what a loaded Sunday slate And

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Speaker 2: All of the football of the day is final. We

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Speaker 2: just got a thrilling finish at Soldier Field the Chicago

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Speaker 2: Bears in overtime. A walk off deep bomb to DJ

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Speaker 2: More in overtime seals the victory. The Chicago Bears are

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Speaker 2: now alone in first place in the NFC North. At

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Speaker 2: eleven and four, the Packers fall to nine to five

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Speaker 2: and one noteworthy from this game, Jordan Love did leave

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Speaker 2: with a concussion. Jymart, real quick, I think I know

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Speaker 2: the answer to this, listen. I know these guys are

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Speaker 2: all professionals. You want to win every game you play.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the Bears are pretty much on a

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Speaker 2: free roll at this point right like they're going to

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Speaker 2: win the division. To Disager's point, depending on how the

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Speaker 2: games go tomorrow, they could clinch a playoff spot. Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be in the playoffs are almost certainly gonna

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Speaker 2: win the division. I don't think they're I think even

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Speaker 2: though they might be the two seed, I don't know

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Speaker 2: that they're good enough to win a super Bowl. To me,

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Speaker 2: young team, first year head coach, second year quarterback, anything

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Speaker 2: at the after this is gravy at this point.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I mean it feels like else money, you've

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Speaker 3: already done more than your fan base expected in year one. Now,

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Speaker 3: look that doesn't mean they're I could be disappointed and think, man,

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Speaker 3: what could have been? Because it feels like it's a

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Speaker 3: little bit open and to some degree in the NFC

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Speaker 3: and certainly in AFC as well, but you're still not

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Speaker 3: fully formed yet, like everything is exactly where it needs

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Speaker 3: to be, but you still might be a year away.

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Speaker 3: I mean before the thunder really took over last year

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Speaker 3: and what we're seeing this year from them in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: You know, they had to lose a series too, like,

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Speaker 3: but they got there, like you started to see what

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Speaker 3: you wanted to see from their stars, and then they

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Speaker 3: got that under their belt and they came back to

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Speaker 3: next year and they were a much different team to

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Speaker 3: deal with. I think you could be looking at something

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Speaker 3: similar with Chicago. There's gonna be some time, and there's

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Speaker 3: probably gonna be some lumps, and there's gonna be a

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Speaker 3: playoff game where they're just gonna kind of find their

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Speaker 3: ceiling and that's gonna be as far as they go.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, like I feel like if the season just

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Speaker 3: ends for them in their first game, I still feel

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Speaker 3: like Bears fans are gonna have nothing but smiles on

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Speaker 3: their faces for what they got because they understand this

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Speaker 3: is not just a fluke. This feels like it can stick.

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Speaker 2: We only got a minute left to Disager's point. Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: Eagles clinch a second straight NFC East titles, something that

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Speaker 2: does not happen very often. What do we make of

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Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles ten and five? They have at Buffalo

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Speaker 2: and then another game with Washington to close out the season.

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Speaker 2: Weird hear where they're gonna get home field advantage, but

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Speaker 2: does it quite feel like what it was a year ago?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm whelmed by them.

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Speaker 2: Good call.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, all right, they're all right, we'll see

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Speaker 3: what they do in the playoffs. But there's nothing about

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Speaker 3: their offense right now that should inspire all that much confidence.

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Speaker 3: They're beaten up and banged up as well. On the

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Speaker 3: offensive line side. The defense has kind of been spotty

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Speaker 3: here and there. It's just like a weird year. Like

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Speaker 3: you look at them and you're like, they should not

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Speaker 3: do much in the playoffs, and that's kind of what

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Speaker 3: I expect. But I don't know that they call it underwhelming.

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Speaker 3: Certainly not overwhelming. They're just they are absolutely mid to

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Speaker 3: me as a playoff team.

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Speaker 2: They're mid is a playoff team. I agree one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: It was an ugly game. Every time I turn it on,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts seem to be missing a throw over somebody's head.

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Speaker 2: But I guess what they get the victory in a

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Speaker 2: game against the Commanders where obviously Jadon Daniels was not playing.

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles, your NFC East champions. Fox Sports Radio Ertoris

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: Will come back, maybe spend a half a second on

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Speaker 2: that Texas A and m Miami game. Then we gotta

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Speaker 2: get to a busy week in the NFL. We are

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Speaker 2: on until two am Eastern Monster Show, Ertorus, Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: the updates. Four college football playoff games are in the

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Speaker 2: books now we'll get to those in a minute. Two

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Speaker 2: NFL games, the Bears a walk off winner in overtime.

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Speaker 2: They trailed sixteen to nine, recovering on sidekicks score with

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Speaker 2: twenty four seconds to go and win in overtime. The

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles also have clinched the NFC East title with

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Speaker 2: a win over the Washington Commanders. Jaymartin, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: going on in the world of the NFL outside of

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Speaker 2: just what's going on in the games. But for half

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Speaker 2: a sec, since we didn't get to talk about it

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Speaker 2: in hour one. Let's just very quickly hit on the

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Speaker 2: early college football playoff game. Miami beats the Texas A

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Speaker 2: and M. Maggie's ten to three in college station. You know,

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Speaker 2: we can reset this at the top of next hour.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any like amazing takeaways

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Speaker 2: in this game. Really strange game. You know, A and

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Speaker 2: M with three turnovers. I don't even know how many

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Speaker 2: field goals were missed or blocked. It was three or

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Speaker 2: four between both teams. I apologize for not being prepared.

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Speaker 2: So three miss kicks by Miami, one for UH, one

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Speaker 2: for Texas A and M. Strange game. But Miami, there

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00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 2: was so much debate if they should be in. They

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Speaker 2: get in. They pull off a small upset. They were

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Speaker 2: only about a three point underdog, but an upset nonetheless

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Speaker 2: against the Texas A and M. Meggis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Marcel Reid his last couple of games,

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Speaker 3: not his best. Miami's defense had a lot to say

847
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Speaker 3: about that. I mean, Ruben bay and played a crazy

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00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: good game for Miami, and then of course when they

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Speaker 3: needed to run the football, they were able to run

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Speaker 3: the foot ball. Tony kind of you know, he had

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Speaker 3: the big fumble and he was so upset about it,

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Speaker 3: and then he goes out there and he gets the

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Speaker 3: touchdown late and they're able to hold him off because

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Speaker 3: of the read interception. But like I said, I don't

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Speaker 3: think it was a great game. I definitely thought it

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00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 3: was compelling, dramatic, and I never turned it off because well,

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00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: certainly nobody was running away from it. But it was

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00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: almost like a car crash because of the wind. Like

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00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: the field goals were basically a no go for the

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Speaker 3: most part in the game, and it just felt like

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Speaker 3: everybody would get something going and then it would just

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Speaker 3: die almost immediately when it came to the offenses in

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Speaker 3: the game. But you know, I don't think it's an

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Speaker 3: upset really at all. I mean, certainly it was a

865
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Speaker 3: road game, and so you saw the first two college

866
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: football playoff games in this cycle. These are the first

867
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: two that were won by the road teams, with Alabama

868
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: winning and Norman and then both of us called that one.

869
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: By the way, we actually said it at the beginning

870
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: of the game and a text message. We didn't have

871
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 3: a chance to say it on the air, but both

872
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: kind of picked that one to happen, and look, that

873
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 3: could have gone the other way. If the tight end

874
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 3: makes the catch, it's probably twenty four to seven. Maybe

875
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: the momentum never comes back. You don't have that miscommunication

876
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 3: and that bad pick six from Matier late in a

877
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 3: half where everything flipped. But those first two games, you know,

878
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: you got kind of even fights, like you had the

879
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: Notre Dame Invitational this afternoon, the two teams that beat

880
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 3: Notre Dame, and Notre Dame watches it and you imagine

881
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: a lot of their salty fans are thinking, we could

882
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: have beaten both of these teams. It's like, right, but

883
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: you lost to both of them. That's that's kind of

884
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: the problem, and that's why you're having to watch this

885
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: at this point. Texas a and m to me all

886
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: year long, Aaron I never really knew what to make

887
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 3: of them, Like they had some incredible athletes like Concepcion

888
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: and those guys, and Marcel Reid made a whole lot

889
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: of plays during the course of the year, but coming

890
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: into the year, like Marcel Reid was not being talked

891
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: about at all. And you get to the end and

892
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: it's like Carson Becks kind of still proved he's not

893
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: particularly great, but they've got a lot of round him,

894
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: which still makes that interesting. But you're watching the game

895
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 3: and you just kind of feel like, whoever wins this

896
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: game is gonna get slaughtered in the next round. And

897
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: so this is kind of what you get, like this

898
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 3: is wild card weekend before you go to the divisional round.

899
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: But there definitely seems to be, at least to me,

900
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: a big time issue between either Texas A and M

901
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: and Miami and Ohio State. So I mean, you look

902
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: at that, and I just feel like I feel like

903
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: Miami was probably the better equipped, maybe just because I

904
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: think they have better athletes on both sides of the

905
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: ball to make that interesting. But I don't feel like

906
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 3: that quarter final game is going to be particularly close either.

907
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: All Right, So let me ask you a weird question

908
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: because I know you're not a Texas A and M fan,

909
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: so I know it makes it tough for you to

910
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: answer this question. And M finishes eleven and two overall,

911
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: obviously on paper an unbelievable season, but lost to your

912
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: biggest rival final game of the regular season. Don't make

913
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: the SEC championship game again when you obviously would have

914
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: been in position to lose a home game in the playoff.

915
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: Do think it's worth noting, by the way of your

916
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: you went seven to one in the SEC. You beat

917
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: the sixteenth ranked team in the league. Remember they're sixteen teams.

918
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: You beat the sixteenth ranked team, the fifteenth, the fourteenth,

919
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: the thirteenth, the twelfth, the tenth, and the team that

920
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 2: was tied for eighth. So basically you played one team

921
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: in the top half of the league. YEA lost to him.

922
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what that even means, Like, you can't

923
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: say it was a disappointing year for A and M.

924
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: You went eleven in one and went to the college

925
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: football playoff, but you didn't lose to Texas, and you

926
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: didn't lose a home college football playoff game. Again, I

927
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 2: don't know what I'm supposed to make of that, but

928
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 2: it is an interesting conversation to have about what their

929
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: season was really, which I think is ultimately the point

930
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 2: that you were just making a second ago.

931
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: Like I think they were. I think you're happy if

932
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 3: you're an A and M fan, You feel good about

933
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: Elko and the culture that's being built at Texas. A

934
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: and M. They look and feel a little bit different,

935
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 3: But I think it's like you went to a nice restaurant.

936
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: The appetizers were really, really good. The main course was solid,

937
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: but you kind of got tired of it by the end,

938
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: and then the dessert was subpar, so you kind of

939
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: walk out and you're like, like, that was a good meal,

940
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 3: but it's almost like it was bittersweet because you didn't

941
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: you don't end on a particularly high note. It was

942
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 3: kind of sour. And then on the way to it,

943
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: you found a way to lose to Texas, and that's

944
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 3: the one that's got to sting the most because that, again,

945
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: like you said, cost you a chance to play Georgia

946
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: in the SEC Championship game. And then, like the lasting

947
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 3: impression of this season, I have to feel like it's

948
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 3: very sour as opposed to be in particularly sweet.

949
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: Real quick, any big takeaways on Alabama Oklahoma. Alabama trailed seventeen,

950
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: nothing ends up rallying to beat Oklahoma. This was obviously

951
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: the Friday night game, so we're twenty four hours removed,

952
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: but thirty four to twenty four was the final score.

953
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 2: My only real takeaways, I actually like Brent Venables, don't

954
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: think it was his strongest night. It wasn't Oklahoma's either, obviously,

955
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: but you know, right, before the half, doesn't take a

956
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: chance at the end zone when he had the opportunity.

957
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: I thought late in the game they really bungled the

958
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: clock down ten. You had the weird John Mattier kind

959
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: of takes a sack, thirty seconds runs off the clock. Whatever.

960
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: But Alabama, which obviously they themselves much like Miami, it

961
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: was kind of a big debate if they should even

962
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: be in. They get the win, they advance to play

963
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: Indiana in the Rose Bowl.

964
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think my takeaway really is, like

965
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 3: I said earlier, if the tight end makes the catch

966
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 3: for ma Tier, he's gonna walk into the end zone.

967
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: It's a wide open drop. There were jobs on both sides,

968
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: so we can talk about Ryan Williams at a minute too.

969
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: But when you when you look at it from the

970
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: Oklahoma perspective, I'm gonna give Alabama credit for this.

971
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: Now.

972
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 3: First off, they made the most of the opportunities that

973
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 3: Oklahoma gave them. But the bigger thing is that Kane

974
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: Wamick and the defense there were some adjustments made because

975
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: they were not sending pressure at all up Matier early

976
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 3: in the game, and they stopped they stopped kind of

977
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: playing zone. I think Herb Street even said the son

978
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 3: of broadcast is right, like they were playing a lot

979
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 3: of his own early. Then they started going single high

980
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: and single coverage, and they were sending extra guys at

981
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: the quarterback and look, Matier needs an extra three quarters

982
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: to a second to jump up before he throws my pass.

983
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 2: I said that to you.

984
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: I know, I'm giving you the I'm giving you the opening.

985
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: It's actually I don't know how I didn't notice it,

986
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: because now I can't unsee it like I saw it

987
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 3: every time after that.

988
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: So I've seen guys that leaned back on a back

989
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: foot to make throws famously, like Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre,

990
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: John Mattier. I don't know if it was every throw,

991
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: but it was like at least half a dozen times

992
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: I was he was jumping to make throws and oh,

993
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 2: by the way, they were wildly inaccurate and nowhere close

994
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: to hitting his receivers in stride. Like my whole thing

995
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: is like, how much are you paying your quarterback? And

996
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 2: you're oc and it's like, I don't know, man, it's

997
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: just no.

998
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: TBA only did that because he had to write John, like,

999
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 3: that's not a thing that you just do to do it.

1000
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kyler Murray I think has done it once

1001
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: or twice. He's also five foot nine, so like right right, yeah, and.

1002
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so either way, like I I do think they

1003
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 3: sent pressure at him and he didn't handle it particularly well.

1004
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: I did send you this message pretty much. They told

1005
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: that story on the broadcast about how Mateer was kind

1006
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: of he was kind of like he was happy for Mendoza,

1007
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 3: but he was watching the Heisman and he was just like, man,

1008
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 3: you know, in a different, different time, that would have

1009
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: been me because he was thinking about his injury and

1010
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: all this. And within like five minutes of that story,

1011
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: Matier threw that pick six and it was just kind

1012
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: of like nah, that like everything fell apart for Oklahoma,

1013
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: and Matiers started to look a lot like the guy

1014
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 3: we've seen since he came back from that injury for

1015
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 3: the most part. And it's just kind of like, yeah,

1016
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think it's just an injury, man,

1017
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,959
Speaker 3: Like I do think that you've you've got some talent,

1018
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 3: You've got a lot of athleticism, but at the same time,

1019
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: I don't think you're that good. Like watching Oklahoma, like

1020
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: next year, what is John Mattier who Oklahoma fans won

1021
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 3: at quarterback next year.

1022
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 2: I will tell you a funny story. I was prepping

1023
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 2: for tonight's show and Fox Sports Radio's Twitter account was open,

1024
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: and I saw Jackson Arnold trending, and I was like,

1025
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: why is Jackson Arnold trending?

1026
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 3: Oh no, No, it.

1027
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: Was just a It was probably two hundred tweets of

1028
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: Oklahoma fans being like, we could have had the exact

1029
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 2: same season with Jackson Arnold. Now I don't know that

1030
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: I believe that. Yeah, I don't know, but I thought

1031
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: it was pretty funny. I also did think, by the

1032
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: way it was really funny, is exat exactly what you

1033
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: said just happened. Was like Matier was actually pretty good

1034
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: for about the first two or three drives, and that

1035
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: was when they told the you know he was he

1036
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: really thought he was going to be on that Heisman stage,

1037
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: but you know what, there's always next year. And then

1038
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: it was like he just immediately stunk the rest.

1039
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: Of it detonated, yes, right in front of it, right

1040
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 3: in front of our eyes. It was like the most

1041
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: ultimate jinks you've ever seen. But yeah, I mean, credit

1042
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 3: to Alabama for making the most of the opportunities. But

1043
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Oklahoma had the game. If they go up

1044
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven, I don't know that we're having

1045
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 3: the same discussion right now. But beyond that, like the

1046
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: reason why we thought Alabama was going to win going

1047
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: in is because Oklahoma's offense was borderline. Iowa is sure

1048
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: through the course of the regular season. It's just there

1049
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 3: was nothing about them that scared you on that side

1050
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: of the ball. Like Venables knows how to coach defense.

1051
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: We already know this, and that defense has been ferocious

1052
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 3: all year. But then you know, they even started to

1053
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: let down just a little bit. But most of all,

1054
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 3: like Alabama just made a few more plays, had a

1055
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: few less drops. And I think you want Ty Simpson

1056
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: over John Mattier. Yeah, when you have to throw the

1057
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 3: football because straight out of the pocket, John Mattier is

1058
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: just not accurate enough.

1059
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't disagree. I listen. I think they'll probably

1060
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: bring him back because you just made the playoff and

1061
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: it's hard to justify not doing it. But you know,

1062
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: I think we were sold a bill of goods on

1063
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 2: who he was going to be coming into the year,

1064
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: and I don't know that he's been that by the way.

1065
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: To go back to the first game. Michael, who is

1066
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: listening to us. I believe he's actually an Oklahoma fan.

1067
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: He just tagged us on a message board thread about

1068
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 2: my You know, we were talking about Texas A and

1069
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: m How are fans supposed to feel? Michael says, not

1070
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: sure how they're feeling about Elcho in college station right

1071
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: now the Texas the Tech SAgs thread on mess on

1072
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: a message board says, quote sloppy Elco for first response

1073
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: was take some mozembic. Second is how you do anything

1074
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: is how you do everything. Leaders of men don't let

1075
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: their health go. I think he's been great so far

1076
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: for the most part, but he obviously has some personal deficiencies.

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00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 2: And then the follow up to that is, I hate

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00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: to say it, but size is one of the top

1079
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 2: reasons I'm skeptical he'll be successful here. I don't recall

1080
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 2: a huge number of obese championship coaches. Usually the coach

1081
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: says the tone for the team is in good shape

1082
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 2: to set an example for the team. So Texas A

1083
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: and M fans blaming the loss to Miami on their

1084
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: coach being slightly overweight. That via message board geniuses on

1085
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 2: Twitter and tech SAgs message board in case you're wondering.

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00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to say to that.

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00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: You know, college football message boards are undefeated.

1088
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 3: I'll say, is this there's the reason why if you're

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00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: not a Texas A and alum, you generally can't stand

1090
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: in Texas A and M, like especially like in the

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00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: SEC and the Big Twelve. Yeah. I know you hate

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00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 3: other schools, but there's something about Texas A and M

1093
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 3: where they always argue or they always fight in these

1094
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: weird ways. And then you have something like this, like

1095
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: we're really going after like Elko needs to go we

1096
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: Govi at this point in time, like he's showing that

1097
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 3: he can't be trusted because he eats a cheeseburger after

1098
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: all these wins as opposed to a celery stalk. I

1099
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 3: don't think that's why you lost. Let's just say that.

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00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you've had some in shape coaches and they

1101
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: haven't done anything for you either, So I don't know

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00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 3: that it's just a better diet and you would have

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00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: beaten Miami today.

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00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 2: You know who's in shape, Marcel Reid. He kept throwing

1105
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 2: it to the other team though. That was your problem

1106
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: over the last about three weeks or so. By the way,

1107
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: in South Carolina game we don't even talk about. They

1108
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: easily could have lost and maybe should have lost that game.

1109
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: So anyway, college football semi finals or quarterfinals excuse me,

1110
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: are set maybe an hour three. We look ahead as

1111
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 2: Texas A and m or Texas Tech. Excuse me. We'll

1112
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 2: face off with Oregon, Ohio State will face Miami and

1113
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: then Alabama, Indiana and the Rose Bowl, the Late One,

1114
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: the Sugar Bowl with Georgia and will miss Fox Sports

1115
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Speaker 2: Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting from the Fox Sports Radio students.

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00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,320
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Speaker 2: bracket challenge. Each March, Fox Sports Radio is doing a

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Speaker 2: come back. Switch back to the NFL chief future in doubt,

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's future in doubt. There is a lot to discuss.

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Speaker 2: Er toords Jason Martin, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody,

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Speaker 2: top of your screen. Want to come back talk some

1144
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: NFL off the field headlines in just a moment. Before

1145
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: we do, though, let's get it over the news desk

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00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: to sega.

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Speaker 6: What is trending in this magical season of the Chicago

1148
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 6: Bears continue tonight trailing late but beating rival Green Bay

1149
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 6: in overtime anyway, twenty two to sixteen, eleven and four.

1150
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 6: The Bears record now Caleb Williams with two late TD passes,

1151
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 6: including the game winner to DJ Moore. Quarterback Jordan Love

1152
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 6: of the Packers left in the first half with a concussion.

1153
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 6: Great stat from the NFL tonight of how many comeback

1154
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 6: wins the Bears have had this year after trailing inside

1155
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 6: of two minutes left. This is their sixth of the season.

1156
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: Sixth.

1157
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 6: Wow, that's more than they had total wins all last season.

1158
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 6: And if you believe in the win probability charts that,

1159
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 6: for example, next Gen Stats have, and they've been around

1160
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 6: for about a decade in the NFL, the Bears probability

1161
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 6: to win this tonight was as low as a half

1162
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 6: a percent before recovering that onside kick coming out of

1163
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 6: the two minute warning down seven. In other words, this

1164
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 6: is one of the top five most improbable victories in

1165
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 6: the decade they've had next Gen stats in the NFL.

1166
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 6: Just crazy that Chicago won this one, and it was

1167
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 6: such a windy, windy experience in the Windy City that

1168
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 6: we weren't getting a lot of deep passing, and yet

1169
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 6: with off the bench, I should say the past to

1170
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 6: Romeo Dobbs from Malik Willis late third quarter and then

1171
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 6: the long bomb from Williams to win it. We had

1172
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 6: that excitement as well. Thrown in Philadelphia clinched its division title,

1173
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 6: winning in a comeback at Washington twenty nine to eighteen.

1174
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 6: The Eagles trailed ten to seven late in the third quarter.

1175
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 6: The Rams fired special teams coordinator Chase Blackburn. First round

1176
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 6: of the College football Playoff is over. Oregon led James

1177
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 6: Madison thirty four to three late second quarter, beat him

1178
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 6: fifty one thirty four. Ole miss beat Tulane, as they

1179
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 6: did back in September.

1180
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 3: Forty one to ten.

1181
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 6: Today's final, Miami advanced, winning ten to three at Texas

1182
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 6: A and M on a touchdown with under two minutes left.

1183
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 6: Alabama came back to win its first rounder last night

1184
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 6: at Oklahoma in a late NBA game, The Lakers were

1185
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 6: already missing three starters tonight, and then Luka Donsich left

1186
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 6: with a bruised leg. The Clippers at home lead the

1187
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 6: Lakers eighty to sixty five with ten minutes left. Lebron

1188
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 6: James twenty six points for the Lakers. Clippers are winning

1189
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Speaker 6: by double digits seemingly all night, even though they are

1190
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Speaker 6: six and twenty one this season. They've just ended the

1191
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 6: overtime period and pending review, it's an Orlando overtime win

1192
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 6: at Utah one twenty eight to one, twenty seven upset.

1193
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Speaker 6: In college basketball at Madison Square Garden, Number three Duke

1194
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 6: falls to nineteenth rank Texas Tech on a late free

1195
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 6: throw eighty two to eighty one. Duke starters on free

1196
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 6: throws just thirteen of twenty four. Number six ranked Perdue

1197
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Speaker 6: won in Indianapolis, beating up number twenty one Auburn eighty

1198
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Speaker 6: eight to sixty. Number eight Houston had a top twenty

1199
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Speaker 6: matchup with Arkansas and New Jersey. Houston wins at ninety

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01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 6: four eighty five. There were two games in Atlanta today.

1201
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 6: Number twelve North Carolina edged Ohio State seventy one seventy

1202
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,479
Speaker 6: Kentucky beat number twenty two Saint John seventy eight sixty six.

1203
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 6: Number one Arizona is in action tonight, just you know,

1204
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 6: in honor of Arnie Spaniel. Number one Arizona is still

1205
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 6: going to be undefeated after tonight.

1206
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: Hey, he must have been on air during a win

1207
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Speaker 2: last week. It's kind of a megasofta Alabama during this time.

1208
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Speaker 6: So this is the one team, this year's Arizona Wildcats

1209
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 6: basketball team, that's bucking the trend in that athletic department.

1210
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 6: Sixty two forty the lead for Arizona over San Diego

1211
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 6: State with two and a half minutes left. And we

1212
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 6: did have a women's basketball game of note, and I

1213
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 6: don't mean the Yukon win, although that was yet another

1214
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 6: Connecticut blowout on TV today in Brooklyn. They beat Iowa

1215
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 6: ninety to sixty four. No, there was a game at

1216
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 6: Southern Illinois today with a home team two and seven

1217
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 6: this year, wound up beating Judson eighty five to twenty nine.

1218
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 6: Southern Illinois was ahead in the second quarter twenty five

1219
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 6: to one. The visiting team wound up shooting seventeen percent

1220
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 6: from the floor, nine baskets on the day and twenty

1221
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 6: seven turnovers. Attendance at Southern Illinois three hundred and forty two.

1222
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 2: Can I say this very random thing for me to say,

1223
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: so obviously, like when a duke has to schedule a

1224
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: bad team, they'll schedule like a Southern Illinois one of

1225
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: my favorite random things is like, oh, Southern Illinois schedule Judson,

1226
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 2: and then just doing the Google search on Judson, it's like, oh,

1227
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: it's a four hundred and fifty person Jesuit school in Billings, Montana.

1228
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 2: I learned so much doing that. It's just a little

1229
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: fun fact about twys that does come up.

1230
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 6: And of course, as we've talked about on this show,

1231
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 6: there are in women's basketball, even with ranked teams, blowout

1232
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 6: after blowout. I mean, UCLA is a very good team

1233
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 6: again in women's hoops again this year. They beat windless

1234
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 6: Long Beach State one oh six forty four today.

1235
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 2: So I'll give you an example. So the other night,

1236
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: Kentucky men's team played North Carolina Central. So I'm like, oh,

1237
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 2: how bad is North Carolina Central? Hot bat? Is Kentucky

1238
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: gonna win?

1239
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: Well?

1240
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: North Carolina Central at the time was like three and eight.

1241
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: I was like, who did North Carolina Central beat Bluefield

1242
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: State to CoA Tacoa Falls, which I googled that somewhere

1243
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: in Georgia, Georgia. Yes, well there's a college there. Did

1244
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 2: you know it's literally underneath the no it's nine.

1245
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 3: I didn't know that, but that's where that's the home

1246
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 3: of an independent wrestling organization I worked for early in

1247
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 3: my career. Yeah, so I was in Takoa every Saturday

1248
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 3: night performing No Way.

1249
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,919
Speaker 2: Yep, you were in Takoa every Saturday night.

1250
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 3: Tacoa slash Cornelia, Georgia.

1251
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: Yep, unbelievable. Jason.

1252
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 6: By the way, a Baptist university in Illinois.

1253
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Tacoa Falls is a stunning one hundred and eighty

1254
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: six foot free falling waterfall located on the campus. This

1255
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about.

1256
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 3: All Right, you're a little more excited than maybe I

1257
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: thought you would be. Well, that's good.

1258
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 6: He's learning about in his country. I applaud you. More

1259
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 6: people should be excited. I guess like I just dropped

1260
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 6: it to coin Falls.

1261
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: Davemart's like, yeah, tell me, let me tell you about

1262
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: all the saturdays I spent there back in ninety eight.

1263
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, good, you know you learned something new about

1264
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: the people you work with all the time.

1265
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 6: Friend of mine, their daughter went to CoA Falls.

1266
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 2: Actually, who's that.

1267
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 6: A friend of mine's daughter went to That's the only

1268
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 6: time I've heard of it.

1269
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: See, I learned something about your friend's daughter.

1270
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 3: There's a lot happening in this segment right now.

1271
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: Yes, there is to Co Falls College, by the way,

1272
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: not quite.

1273
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 6: As much as happened in the Bear game. But all right, well.

1274
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: Let's get back on track here. We're a little off of.

1275
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 3: More than happened in Oxford.

1276
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, to co of Falls. I think that's who Oregon

1277
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 2: was playing in the college football playoff to night. All right,

1278
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,959
Speaker 2: let's talk about this Fox Sports radio eron towards Jason

1279
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 2: mart So, do you want to do the hard pivot

1280
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: to actual sports news? And this is obviously a couple

1281
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: of days old, but I think it is actually, in

1282
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: my opinion, one of the more interesting conversations to have

1283
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: about the NFL over the next six to eight months. Okay,

1284
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 2: so obviously, look City Chiefs lost on last Sunday. You know,

1285
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: they're eliminated from the playoffs. But to me, I think

1286
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 2: what's so interesting about this is listen, Patrick Mahomes is hurt.

1287
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: It's awful, we all get it. He tore his acl.

1288
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 2: He has said he wants to come back for week one.

1289
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 2: To me, why this becomes interesting though, j Martin, you

1290
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: and I have been talking about since week one. I

1291
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: remember coming on on a Saturday after they played on

1292
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:32,479
Speaker 2: Friday against the Chargers, and we were saying, this team

1293
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 2: isn't that good. They have a Hall of Fame quarterback

1294
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: and not a lot around And I just find this

1295
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: fascinating because, you know, I just I think this is

1296
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 2: the moment in time where the Chiefs have to do

1297
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: the hard reset. They're obviously gonna end up probably with

1298
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: you know, they're sitting right now at six and eight,

1299
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: you know, the final two or Broncos and Raiders. So

1300
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: you so finished seven and nine, say, probably finished with

1301
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: a top fifteen pick, which also means they'll be drafting

1302
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 2: in the top half of every round. I don't think

1303
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: you rush back Patrick Mahomes next year. And I know

1304
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes wants to play Week one, but besides the

1305
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: fact that he's obviously incredible, whatever, I think this is

1306
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 2: exactly what the Chiefs need to reset for the next

1307
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 2: iteration of what they're gonna be with Patrick Mahomes's quarterback.

1308
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: What did you make of the news of the last week.

1309
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: I think this is sort of you never want Patrick

1310
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: Mahomes to go down with injury, but it's kind of

1311
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: a blessing in dis guys.

1312
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he obviously wasn't gonna stop playing football, and

1313
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 3: this kind of stopped him, and it just this just

1314
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 3: felt like the kind of inevitable end of this sort

1315
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 3: of It's almost like the Chiefs are still in a

1316
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 3: nice car, but they just ran out of gas, sure,

1317
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 3: and so they just kind of stopped moving finally. Like

1318
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 3: when you run out of gas, you don't just stop immediately.

1319
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 3: You just start slowing down more and more and you

1320
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 3: notice more cars are passing. Then you have to kind

1321
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 3: of try to move over to the shoulder and try

1322
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 3: to get out of the way because you just don't

1323
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 3: have anything left and you can't get to the service station.

1324
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 3: That's just gonna be it for you at that point

1325
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: in time. And then eventually you just kind of roll

1326
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 3: to a stop. And it just felt like the chief

1327
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: season finally rolled to a stop. And now some maintenance

1328
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 3: needs to be done on that car. You find out

1329
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 3: it's actually not just the gas, it's the fuel pump. Actually,

1330
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: there's some other things under the hood that are gonna

1331
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 3: need to be looked at as well. The tires. Tread's

1332
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: not looking like it once did. It's just not as

1333
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 3: sharp as it once was. There's still a lot to

1334
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 3: like about it, but some big time things are gonna

1335
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 3: have to come out of the old wallet to take

1336
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: care of that car. That's what it feels like to

1337
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. I'm not rushing him back either, because I

1338
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: don't think next year can be their year either. I

1339
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 3: think we've kind of reached that Patriot ceiling right there

1340
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: when they lost to the Titans in the playoff game,

1341
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 3: and you knew that was probably gonna be it for

1342
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 3: Tom Brady in New England. Like we were just getting

1343
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 3: to that point where there just wasn't much left in

1344
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 3: the tank for them. They got there faster. But I

1345
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 3: think it's just because around the Chiefs we already knew

1346
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: that there was a lot of talent, but I didn't.

1347
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that we recognize that in the division

1348
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 3: they were gonna face this kind of challenge, But also

1349
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 3: they were just gonna look old really fast. And I

1350
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,839
Speaker 3: think that's what you've got here. It's not like Reid's forgotten,

1351
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 3: forgotten how to coach, and we know how good Mahomes is,

1352
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 3: but looking around him at his weapons this year, he

1353
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 3: dealt with injuries early in the season, guys coming back

1354
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 3: off suspension, all that, but I mean his mister everything

1355
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 3: for such a long time outside of Tyreek Hill as

1356
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 3: Kelsey and Kelsey's just not the same player anymore. He

1357
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,839
Speaker 3: can still give you some things, but he's been lapped

1358
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 3: by others at the position. At this point, he's gonna

1359
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 3: walk into the Hall of Fame as one of, if

1360
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 3: not the greatest tight end to ever play the game.

1361
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 3: Like everything is still gravy for what they've accomplished. But

1362
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 3: this version of the Kansas City Chiefs, it's kind of

1363
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 3: just hit it. It's kind of just hit its apex.

1364
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 3: And at this point we're gonna have to see a

1365
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 3: new version of this because the old version has kind

1366
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 3: of reached it its destination.

1367
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 2: Something that maybe never reached its destination. Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, listen,

1368
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: two or three pretty damning quotes from Joe Burrow over

1369
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: the last couple weeks now. The one that kind of

1370
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: caught my attention. It's a few weeks old now, but

1371
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: basically essentially he said, I'm not having fun right now.

1372
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 2: It felt very Andrew Luckish to me. I don't think

1373
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: we're there yet, but this is a guy now, you know.

1374
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 2: And I keep saying this about Joe Burrow, we think

1375
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: because he got into the league in twenty twenty, that

1376
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 2: he's some young guy. He's twenty nine years old. He

1377
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:50,919
Speaker 2: will be thirty obviously next season. He's not young anymore.

1378
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: Multiple season ending injuries, multiple other injuries, including the turf toe,

1379
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 2: and it does feel like they have reached a point

1380
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: of of crazy frustration now. He was asked earlier this week,

1381
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 2: is there any scenario you're not the Cincinnati Bengals quarterback

1382
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: next year? And he said, I cannot see a scenario

1383
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: where I'm not the Cincinnati Bengals quarterback next year. But

1384
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 2: I just bring it up because I don't know exactly

1385
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 2: what the endgame is for him. I don't think it's retirement,

1386
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: and I don't think the Bengals are trading him. But

1387
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 2: it feels like it's getting really toxic really quick over

1388
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 2: there in Cincinnati.

1389
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 3: He's unhappy because well, I mean, he's frustrated because he's

1390
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 3: getting hurt again. And look, that's the same thing that

1391
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 3: you talked about with Andrew Luck. And I remember talking

1392
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 3: to Jeff Schwartz when Luck was trying to come back,

1393
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,440
Speaker 3: and you had those weird kind of cryptic well his arm.

1394
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: We're still trying to see, like before we would come back,

1395
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 3: and Jeff would say the most debilitating and the most

1396
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 3: frustrating and just depressing thing for an athlete is to

1397
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 3: be hurt seemingly perpetually, but you feel like you're healthy,

1398
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: you come back, and you get hurt again, because the

1399
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: process of come back from injury is so just brutal

1400
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 3: and taxing and all of the physical therapy and everything

1401
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 3: that you're trying to do to get back into game shape,

1402
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 3: and then when you get cut off again almost immediately,

1403
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 3: that can become like a real mental issue for you,

1404
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 3: like it can just it can remove the fun from

1405
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: the game. And that's where you That's where I think

1406
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 3: you kind of drummed that Andrew Luck point from. And

1407
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 3: I think there's there's some there's a point there. But

1408
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 3: the other side is he's also looking at a football

1409
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 3: team that the defense. Guess what, it wasn't lou Anaarumo's

1410
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 3: fault that the defense didn't play well last year. They

1411
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 3: just don't have a very good defense and there's only

1412
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 3: so much you can do with the guys on that roster.

1413
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 3: And he played almost MVP level football last year and

1414
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 3: it got them absolutely nowhere because they couldn't stop anybody

1415
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 3: and this year's defense is one of the worst statistically

1416
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 3: in NFL history, and he's hurt and he comes back

1417
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 3: there out of it, but he loves football. But nothing's right,

1418
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 3: And so I think I don't know how it ends

1419
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati either. But if I'm somebody in there notoriously

1420
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 3: not particularly likable front office, I'm calling Burrow into the

1421
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 3: office and I'm trying to cut this off at the

1422
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 3: pass as fast as possible. And I'm like, Joe, are

1423
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 3: you good with Zach?

1424
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1425
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 3: Are you good with Zach? Because if you're not, we

1426
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,879
Speaker 3: can move on from him, because there's nothing particularly special

1427
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 3: about Zach Taylor. Even if Burrow were to retire two

1428
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 3: or three years from now, I don't think that you

1429
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 3: can't find another Zach Taylor. Not that he's done a

1430
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 3: bad job, but I want to make sure that my

1431
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 3: QB one, who also is the key to my wide

1432
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 3: receiver one, because if Burrow leaves, you can bet Jamar

1433
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 3: Chase will be somewhere else pretty soon as well. You

1434
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 3: cannot lose the domino here or you're going to lose

1435
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 3: all the ones behind it. So if that means we

1436
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 3: have to make changes on the sideline, Joe then we're

1437
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 3: going to do that because we got to make sure

1438
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 3: you're happy, because you're one of those guys that's worth it.

1439
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think I listen. I think it's tough

1440
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 2: for any coach, you know, to have any level of

1441
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: success when you know one of the four or five

1442
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: best quarterbacks in the league is not healthy. You know,

1443
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: essentially every year and certainly for most of this season.

1444
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 2: But that you know, we've talked about many different things.

1445
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 2: Feeling like they've run their course over the course of

1446
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 2: the last couple hours, it just feels like it might

1447
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: be time for a fresh voice for the Cincinnati Bengals

1448
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 2: four and ten right now. Obviously we know the situation there.

1449
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 2: Back to back losses and it's pretty bleak for the

1450
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,480
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bangles. So Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting

1451
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios, will come back.

1452
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: Get it over the news desk do Saga with his

1453
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 2: extended update. He gives it to us every week around

1454
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 2: this time. To Sager's next Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody.

1455
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from

1456
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Be honest, I've heard a

1457
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 2: lot of Christmas songs is this Luda? It is now?

1458
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 2: I was not aware of this song before right now.

1459
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 3: Look I wasn't either, but I'm alright with it.

1460
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: You and the Christmas spirit, Ludacris get any Christmas spirit always, man,

1461
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 2: No who else gets me in the Christmas spirit? Steve

1462
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: de Seger. Yeah, even in February, Like I'm just like

1463
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm a little I need a little

1464
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: Christmas spirit. I throw it over the news desk and

1465
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 2: every single time to Saga delivers, even in April when

1466
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 2: you're giving us NBA scurse.

1467
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll accept ed. I'm a fine as American who

1468
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 6: celebrates Christmas on an annual basis.

1469
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 2: Oh, an annual basis?

1470
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 3: Okay, good, so it was supposed to do. Now the

1471
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 3: NBA Cup is over, we will take sports.

1472
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 6: Left banner or no banner. What a great tournament.

1473
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 2: I will say, if you celebrate a Christmas on a

1474
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: bi annual basis, that'd be a very interesting conversation.

1475
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,799
Speaker 6: Well, some people are more into it, okay when December

1476
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 6: comes around than others. So some people have been more

1477
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 6: into this first round of the College Football Playoff as

1478
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 6: it's come around than others. We had Ole Miss as expected,

1479
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 6: killing Tulane forty one to ten.

1480
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 3: Today.

1481
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 6: Mississippi had beaten him forty five to ten back in September.

1482
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 6: Quarterback Jake Rehetzlov, who by the way, made the playoff BYU,

1483
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 6: did not Reetzlaff one touchdown, three turnovers over three hundred

1484
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 6: yards passing the quarterback for Mississippi, Trinidad chamberl Is three

1485
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 6: total tds, two hundred and eighty two yards passing Old

1486
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 6: Miss's offense without Lane Kiffen, thirty first downs and nearly

1487
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 6: five hundred yards and only one penalty today, so Old

1488
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 6: Miss will play Georgia in the Sugar Bowl quarter final

1489
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 6: New Year's Night. Mississippi lost at Georgia in a can

1490
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 6: I call it an SEC Classic In October it was

1491
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 6: forty three to thirty five. Georgia scored seventeen straight points

1492
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter to win that one. Number five

1493
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 6: Oregon at home, as expected beat James Madison tonight fifty

1494
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 6: one thirty four. Was not expected, as Oregon led thirty

1495
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,520
Speaker 6: four to three late in the second quarter, scoring touchdowns

1496
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 6: on its first five drives. Dante Moore, Troy Aikman's best friend,

1497
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 6: five total touchdowns and two interceptions.

1498
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 3: I would miss that. I must have missed that.

1499
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 6: Without naming names. Troy Aikman's talked about the amount of

1500
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 6: dough that he gave to UCLA for nil and the

1501
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 6: quarterback only stayed for nine games and left, and he

1502
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 6: never even got to thank you. On into the first round.

1503
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: He's basically like I gave to Nile once, never.

1504
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 6: Again, and I'm sure Toroy won't be paid back once.

1505
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 6: Perhaps a first round contract comes Moore's way. Each team

1506
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,759
Speaker 6: in this Oregon game had over five hundred yards of offense,

1507
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 6: but at the Ducks. It's the Ducks who advanced to

1508
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 6: face Texas Tech in the Orange Bowl quarterfinal on New

1509
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 6: Year's Day. And then you had Miami winning today ten

1510
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 6: to three at Texas A and m on a touchdown

1511
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 6: with under two minutes left. The game was scoreless at halftime.

1512
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 6: Mark Fletcher of the Hurricanes seventeen carries one hundred and

1513
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 6: seventy two yards. He alone had sixty two percent of

1514
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 6: the yards from scrimmage for the HR in this game.

1515
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 6: Is amazing in the game, yeah, and nobody else was

1516
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 6: doing anything. This has never happened in one of the

1517
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 6: college football playoff games where one guy had at least

1518
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 6: sixty percent of his team's yards from scrimmage. The Miami

1519
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 6: offense had eleven drives and just twelve first downs, and

1520
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 6: they still advance. A and M quarterback Marcel Reid three turnovers,

1521
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 6: including an interception in the end zone with under thirty

1522
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 6: seconds left. A and M and had one field goal

1523
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 6: attempt blocked. Today, Miami missed three field goal attempts. Kane's

1524
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 6: defense though with seven sacks, so the Aggies, who were

1525
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 6: eleven to Ozher and then lost to Texas, lost to

1526
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 6: Miami to end the season. Attendance for this at home

1527
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 6: was one hundred and four thousand. Miami will play number

1528
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 6: two Ohio State on New Year's Eve at the Cotton Bowl. Alabama,

1529
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 6: with the comeback win at Oklahoma last night, will be

1530
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 6: in the Rose Bowl quarterfinal against number one Indiana. Bama's

1531
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 6: co offensive coordinator, Nick Sheridan will leave to be a

1532
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 6: Michigan State assistant after Alabama's run ends. Arizona State resigned

1533
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 6: coach Kenny Dillingham to a five yeard deal. Iowa State

1534
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 6: quarterback rock O Beckt is entering the transfer portal. His

1535
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 6: coach left for Penn State.

1536
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 3: Monday State.

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01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 6: That's the immediate. Uh my goodness, this is kind of logical.

1538
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 6: Let's connect the two dots. There are to connectedness dots.

1539
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 6: That's right in theory. He's going to be open to

1540
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 6: any suitor next month, so standing by for that, he's

1541
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 6: got one, he's got one year to go. Wouldn't he

1542
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 6: go where the coach goes at?

1543
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:27,759
Speaker 3: One would think?

1544
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 6: Just thinking Monday in Boise a Bowl game with Washington

1545
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 6: State against Utah State Washington State campus not that far

1546
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 6: from Boise. Three other ball games on Tuesday, and then

1547
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 6: Hawaii hosts the Hawaii Bowl on Christmas Eve against cal

1548
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 6: On Wednesday night tonight, in the NFL, we had Packers Bears,

1549
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 6: the two hundred and tenth regular season meeting between those two,

1550
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 6: most in NFL history. But this here late in the

1551
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 6: season was just the second time ever these two had met,

1552
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 6: with both of them entering the game with nine or

1553
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 6: more wins, and we wound up with quite a Bears finish.

1554
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 6: The comeback overtime win against Green Bay twenty two sixteen.

1555
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 6: I mentioned with the wind in the Windy City tonight,

1556
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 6: there were no long passes completed until late third quarter

1557
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 6: when Malik Willis off the bench through a TD to

1558
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 6: Romeo Dobbs and went forty yards in the air topping

1559
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 6: That was Caleb Williams game winner. It was a forty

1560
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 6: six yard TD in the stat book it traveled fifty

1561
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 6: seven yards in the air to dj Moore. We mentioned

1562
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 6: he was blanketed by Keishawn Nixon and still caught the ball.

1563
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 6: Next gen stat said it was about a half yard

1564
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 6: of separation that Moore had and he still wins the game.

1565
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 6: And as we mentioned earlier, two wide receivers were out

1566
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 6: due to injury for Chicago tonight, Roma Dunze and Luther Burden.

1567
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 6: Packers quarterback Jordan Love left in the first half with

1568
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 6: a concussion on a roughing the passer penalty. Dallas plays

1569
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 6: defensive back to Ron bland on injured reserve, but Trayvon

1570
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 6: Diggs was activated. The Cowboys are officially eliminated now that

1571
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 6: Philadel came back to win today and a great stat

1572
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 6: that we were onto the sixtieth Super Bowl. First thirty years,

1573
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 6: the Cowboys played in essentially the conference title game sixteen

1574
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 6: times out of the thirty. These last thirty years, not

1575
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 6: a single appearance in the NFC championship game for Dallas unbelievable.

1576
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 2: Thank you very much to Saigre Fox Sports Radio air

1577
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 2: towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1578
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: We will come back reset that Bears, Packers thriller. J

1579
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 2: Mart's got NBA Cup takes for the rest of the show.

1580
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1581
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 2: Welcome to everybody. I wur three tours Martin Fox Sports Radio.

1582
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,679
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live. Yes, we are live one am

1583
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 2: Eastern from the Fox Sports Radio studios, taking you up

1584
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 2: until two am Eastern. Bernie Frado of The Bernie Frado

1585
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 2: Show follows us. You know, Bernie's got takes on a

1586
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: lot of things, but you're gonna want to hear what

1587
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,799
Speaker 2: he has to say about the Michigan coaching vacancy. Jennymar

1588
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: we haven't talked much about that. You know, we got

1589
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 2: to get back to the Bears and the Packers and

1590
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 2: maybe college football playoff. And I know you have takes

1591
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 2: on takes about the NBA Cup this week, so many takes,

1592
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 2: but for half a second. By the way, so you

1593
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 2: and I were off air last week the Sharon Moore story,

1594
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 2: and it's it's just obviously very sad and very serious,

1595
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: one of the craziest. I don't know if it's this

1596
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 2: world that we live in where we just move on

1597
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: to the next thing so fast. It's one thing to

1598
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:41,839
Speaker 2: get fired. The dude was in jail for three days

1599
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: before he eventually made bail, and you know whatever, But

1600
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 2: Charon Moore's out. Michigan still doesn't have a coach, but

1601
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: we didn't get a chance to talk about it last week.

1602
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any takes this week.

1603
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,839
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham, the Arizona State coach, signed an extension earlier

1604
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: this week or earlier on Saturday, he was believed to

1605
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 2: be a candidate. You have any big Bowl takes or

1606
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 2: big bold opinions on everything that's gone on at Michigan

1607
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 2: the last ten or so days. Given that, again you

1608
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 2: and I were not on air last Saturday, I just.

1609
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 3: Can't believe it. Even when he was let go, you

1610
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 3: felt like, okay, well, there was some kind of there

1611
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 3: was an untoward situation here, and of course Cherie Wore

1612
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: is married with kids and all this other stuff, so

1613
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, this is ugly and it's reflecting

1614
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 3: bad on the university, and you didn't want to go

1615
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 3: down that pathway where it was, well, this is lucky

1616
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 3: break for Michigan to be able to fire him with cause,

1617
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 3: because they were probably going to do that next year anyway.

1618
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 3: And you know, you had made this comments during the

1619
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 3: season a few times that it's just like there didn't

1620
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 3: seem to be any like real confidence behind him from

1621
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 3: the fan base, despite the fact that he kept on

1622
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 3: winning games. But very quickly you realized, no, Michigan didn't

1623
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 3: have a choice here, and the timing of this is

1624
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 3: not good for them at all because a lot of

1625
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 3: these coaches have already been hired. You've already gotten pass

1626
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 3: nash soning like, there's all sorts of things that have

1627
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 3: already happened that makes this a bad moment for Michigan

1628
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 3: to try and do this. So certainly you look at

1629
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 3: a job like that and you say that's a coveted job.

1630
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 3: But even before you think about Michigan, I just think

1631
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 3: about all the people involved in that, and it's just

1632
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 3: like you're watching this guy on Saturday's coaching all year,

1633
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 3: and you remember him coaching in Jim Harbaugh's stead a

1634
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 3: couple of years ago and crying after that win against

1635
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 3: Ohio State, and all of this and you get to

1636
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 3: this and not only was he fired and you talked

1637
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 3: about him being in jail for three days, Aaron, he

1638
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 3: was fired and in jail within the same day. Yep.

1639
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 3: Like his life was turned completely upside down. And look,

1640
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 3: this is not me having a particular brand of sympathy

1641
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 3: for him based on you know, it looks like there

1642
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,799
Speaker 3: were some very ugly things that were going on there.

1643
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 3: But I just what an awful, awful story like at

1644
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 3: that point it superseeds football and of course Horse the

1645
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 3: Michigan job and and everything that surrounds it is very

1646
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 3: interesting from our perspective. But it just reminds you again

1647
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 3: that there's there's there are things in this world that

1648
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,759
Speaker 3: are way more important than football.

1649
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, No, I won't add much more than that,

1650
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: because yes, there is you know, a conversation we had

1651
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 2: about who's the next Michigan coach. You know, the timing

1652
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 2: of everything, as you said, is wild. There's I think

1653
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 2: the other thing that's worth noting. There's an outside you know,

1654
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: an outside law firm hasn't been brought in to investigate

1655
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 2: the situation, and so a lot more you know, skeletons

1656
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: for lack of a better term could be kind of

1657
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 2: popped up over the next couple of months. But yeah,

1658
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 2: crazy story at Michigan, and uh yeah, Bernie Fratto. The

1659
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: only reason I bring it up because Bernie Fratto's up next.

1660
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 2: No one is more plugged in in that area. Bernie

1661
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 2: lived in Michigan. Bernie covered the Michigan Wolverines for years,

1662
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: and I, among many will be listening to hear what

1663
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 2: he has me to say about that situation. Our All right,

1664
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: let's switch gears. And speaking of situations, we had a

1665
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:08,839
Speaker 2: situation in Soldier Field on Saturday night. So two NFL

1666
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 2: games on Saturday. The first one the Eagles took care

1667
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 2: of business against the Commanders. Commanders obviously no Jaydon Daniels.

1668
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: That one was not all that surprising. What may be

1669
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: surprising maybe not the final result in Chicago, but the

1670
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 2: Bears trailed sixteen to six with under five minutes to go,

1671
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 2: kick a field goal then recovering on sidekick force overtime

1672
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 2: at sixteen. All the Bears or the Packers, excuse me,

1673
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 2: get the ball to start overtime. A fumble recovery by

1674
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears have the ball at midfield

1675
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 2: and this is what it sounded like.

1676
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 5: Ah, the fake Williams looking downfield, watching downfield, going.

1677
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: D chamber.

1678
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 2: Kevin Burkhart, Fox Sports.

1679
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 3: Tom Brady. Tom Brady was the screaming voice.

1680
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 2: That's what I thought.

1681
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:16,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was Tom.

1682
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: It wasn't positive. Kevin Burkhart, Tom Brady out the call.

1683
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,879
Speaker 2: That was via our colleagues at Fox Sports and Fox

1684
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears unbelievable comeback win. The twenty two to

1685
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: sixteen overtime walk off win. The Bears now eleven and

1686
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 2: four in the Division, a game and a half lead

1687
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 2: over the Green Bay Packers. They haven't officially even clinched

1688
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 2: a playoff spot yet, but can tomorrow depending on some results.

1689
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: It looks like the Bears are going to win the

1690
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 2: NFC North and potentially get as high as the number

1691
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: two seed. I guess in theory they could still get

1692
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 2: the one seed, but probably the two seed if they

1693
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 2: win the NFC North and unbelievable dream season in chicag.

1694
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 3: Considering coming into this season and thinking about the NFC North,

1695
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 3: and you know, you got McCarthy and you weren't sure,

1696
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 3: but you knew what Darnold had done last year. You

1697
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 3: felt like good coach, and you got Justin Jefferson, and

1698
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 3: all the things seemed to be in pretty good shape

1699
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 3: in Minnesota. Detroit was you know, within an eyelash of

1700
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 3: a couple of Super Bowl appearances, it felt like over

1701
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. And then you got Green

1702
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 3: Bay that's always knocking on the door, even though Pittsburgh

1703
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,520
Speaker 3: or Philadelphia beat them down last year in the playoffs,

1704
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 3: but you know, a lot to like there. And then

1705
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 3: of course you get you get Michael Parsons there the

1706
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 3: trade deadline as well to add to it. And now

1707
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 3: it's going to be the Chicago Bears and a quarterback

1708
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 3: that people were trying to give up on last year

1709
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 3: and a coach that was going into his first head

1710
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 3: coaching job. They're the ones that are going to win

1711
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 3: this division and go into the playoffs and host the

1712
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 3: playoff game. The NFL is wild, man. That's basically my

1713
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 3: point here.

1714
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 2: It's crazy because you know, we'd have to go back

1715
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: and look at all of our preseason predictions. But that

1716
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 2: I think, I think in hindsight, that's maybe an underrated

1717
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 2: part of the conversation is like it's easy to be like, now, Okay,

1718
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy didn't play last year up and down season,

1719
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: although he obviously is playing better Detroit Lions. Okay, whatever.

1720
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 2: I just remember thinking, I do believe in Ben Johnson.

1721
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to give up on Caleb Williams. But

1722
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:42,919
Speaker 2: I remember thinking, okay, because of the division, the ceiling

1723
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 2: is probably like ten and seven, nine and eight, the

1724
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 2: last wildcard spot, you know what I'm saying, like like

1725
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 2: and so I think that's a great point by you,

1726
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: And now you look at it and listen. Obviously, part

1727
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: of it is Minnesota struggle. Detroit isn't what we thought

1728
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 2: it was though. The offensive coordinator situation is a mess.

1729
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,759
Speaker 2: But we're looking at the Chicago Bears not only winning

1730
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: the division, but a division that we felt like coming

1731
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 2: into the season was one of the toughest in the NFL.

1732
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 2: So incredible story. Eleven and four. You know, we talked

1733
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 2: about in the first hour when the game went final,

1734
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 2: I think to me, I do think that this is

1735
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 2: almost a free role type situation for the Chicago Bears

1736
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: right now. You're not like going to make the playoffs again,

1737
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 2: you could potentially get the number two seed. You're almost

1738
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 2: certainly going to win the division. Yeah, every person that

1739
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 2: plays sports at any level wants to win every game

1740
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 2: they compete in, and there's only one team that can

1741
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 2: hoist that Vince Lombardi Trophy, and so obviously anyone who

1742
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 2: doesn't is going to be disappointed. But I would just

1743
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 2: counter by saying, I think it's already been a successful season.

1744
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 2: I think it's already been an incredible year, and I

1745
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 2: think anything that happens from here is kind of gravy

1746
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 2: for the Chicago Bears.

1747
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you look to next year, and then

1748
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 3: next year becomes all right, now we got to take

1749
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 3: another step. But in terms of this year, I think

1750
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 3: you've already exceeded everybody's expectations, highest expectations for what this

1751
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 3: could look like in year one. So I think at

1752
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 3: this point, at this point, if you aren't okay with this,

1753
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 3: then I just don't know that you're ever gonna be

1754
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 3: okay as a fan, like this is this right here

1755
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 3: is the dream to bring in a new coach, still

1756
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 3: got a young quarterback that was a number one overall pick,

1757
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 3: and then you find out maybe he hasn't been ruined

1758
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,799
Speaker 3: after all. Like I feel like you've at this point

1759
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 3: it is very much a house money situation that doesn't

1760
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 3: mean they're not going to compete, and it doesn't mean

1761
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 3: you have no right to feel bad if they lose.

1762
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 3: But you have to leave this season feeling optimistic considering

1763
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 3: what you felt like last year.

1764
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 2: Unbelievable finish, really quick. Philadelphia Eagles beat the Washington Commanders

1765
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 2: twenty nine to eighteen. Second straight division title in the

1766
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 2: NFC East, which is obviously something that doesn't happen very

1767
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 2: often in that division. Any big picture takeaways for the

1768
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 2: Eagles who win the.

1769
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 3: Game going away?

1770
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts one hundred and eighty five yards passing twenty

1771
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 2: two of thirty, so you know, statistically he was fine.

1772
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 2: I watched the game. It wasn't always pretty, but they

1773
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 2: get the victory and they improved to ten and five.

1774
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 3: Say it again, man, I'm just very whelmed by that team.

1775
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 3: I just I don't I'm not particularly impressed with them.

1776
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,560
Speaker 3: I know they have ability. Obviously they're the defending champions.

1777
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 3: Maybe their best football comes in the postseason, but there's

1778
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 3: just nothing about what they've done that doesn't feel middle

1779
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 3: of the road to me.

1780
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 2: This year totally fair. Philadelphia Eagles close next week in

1781
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 2: Buffalo should be an awesome game that is next Sunday,

1782
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 2: and then they close with the Commanders for a second

1783
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: time in three weeks. Obviously, when the schedule makers put

1784
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 2: that one together, they were not expecting the Commanders to

1785
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 2: currently sit at four and eleven overall going into the

1786
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 2: final two weeks of the season. Fox Sports Radio air

1787
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 2: tors Jason i'mtin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1788
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 2: Do you want to come back? Do you want to

1789
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 2: talk a little bit of Actually the NBA? Oh no, well,

1790
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 2: NBA Cup is complete. I'm not sure that anybody season's over.

1791
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 3: Man.

1792
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 2: Well, it was an incredible rally for the Knicks and

1793
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 2: they were so excited that they are not hanging a banner.

1794
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 2: We'll discuss all that next. Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody.

1795
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio aertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

1796
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. Fun show so far, we still

1797
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 2: got thirty nine minutes left until we toss it over

1798
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 2: to Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show. Ertors Jason Martin,

1799
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, All right, j mart let's do it.

1800
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 2: We've been teasing for hours. Now takes on the NBA Cup.

1801
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 2: Couple key takeaways here, New York Knicks are your NBA

1802
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 2: Cup champion, first noteworthy championship, if you want to call

1803
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 2: it such a thing, since they won a NBA title

1804
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies. Just reading the AP report here,

1805
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 2: it says the weight since the night, the wait since

1806
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three to add another one didn't end on

1807
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 2: Tuesday night, But New York can make room for an

1808
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 2: NBA Cup banner. Well, fun fact, the Knicks are not

1809
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 2: going to hang up an NBA Cup banner, but they

1810
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,719
Speaker 2: did beat the San Antonio Spurs one twenty four, one thirteen,

1811
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 2: and the NBA Cup in year three is such a

1812
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 2: success that not only are the Knicks not hanging up

1813
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 2: a banner, Adam Silver says it's leaving Vegas and that

1814
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 2: they are going to bring it to iconic college basketball

1815
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 2: venues in the future.

1816
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 3: So some of that.

1817
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 2: Nothing screams uh successful Oh, I don't even know what

1818
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 2: the right word is, but successful venture other than no

1819
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 2: one the team winning it, not acknowledging that they want

1820
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,799
Speaker 2: it and then also announcing that you're gonna make sweeping

1821
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 2: changes next year. But hey, the courts are cool. J

1822
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 2: Mart take this wherever you'd like.

1823
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 3: Gosh, there's so many ways.

1824
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 2: Actually the courts aren't cool, but continue anyway.

1825
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 3: I yeah know they're not. I mean, look, Charles Barker,

1826
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 3: I don't know who what interview he was on, but

1827
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 3: I saw the clip where it's just like, it's kind

1828
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 3: of ridiculous that Adam Silver has had to come up

1829
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 3: with this thing that happens in December to keep guys

1830
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 3: from load managing that essentially we're paying them extra money

1831
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,799
Speaker 3: despite the millions and millions of dollars that they're already

1832
01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 3: being compensated and whatever this trophy is. Did you hear

1833
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:57,719
Speaker 3: Stan Van Gundy? I did that on third and fourth

1834
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 3: in the third and fourth quarter of that game. I

1835
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 3: did in a replay. He was saying that the real

1836
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 3: MVP of this entire thing is Adam Silver, for this

1837
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 3: wonderful idea that's led to all this hard fought basketball

1838
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 3: and all this other stuff, and about just what an

1839
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 3: incredible leader Adam Silver is. And I'm just like, man,

1840
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 3: I hope to check clears, Stan, Like I really hope

1841
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 3: it clears, because you cannot be serious with this, Like

1842
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 3: the knicks not hanging the banner is the is the

1843
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 3: win here? The fact that like, yeah, you celebrate it

1844
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 3: on the court whatever, but this is not what you're

1845
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 3: playing for, and you can't act like it is. And

1846
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 3: so they're gonna treat this like it is an exhibition

1847
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 3: because that's all that it is, and they're gonna go

1848
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,439
Speaker 3: try to win an NBA championship. And I credit to

1849
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 3: them for not making this more than it is. I

1850
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 3: know Adam Silver's trying to generate interest in this league.

1851
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 3: I get it, But this thing is a force. We've

1852
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,719
Speaker 3: said it was a force since moment one. It's literally

1853
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 3: is now.

1854
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:11,839
Speaker 2: But literally moment one. We were on air during Summer

1855
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 2: League when they announced the format and we were like,

1856
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 2: wait what Yeah, And this still goes back to first

1857
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 2: of all, besides the fact that you know, we all

1858
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 2: know where I stand on Edamsilver. I think he's a clown.

1859
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,719
Speaker 2: But I only bring it up because this just goes

1860
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 2: back to this was called the mid season Tournament before

1861
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 2: it became the NBA Cup. And I still believe if

1862
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 2: you just put all thirty teams in Vegas and you

1863
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 2: played games morning, noon to night, and a champion was

1864
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 2: crowned at the end of it, that would actually be

1865
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 2: a pretty cool event. But this thing where some games

1866
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 2: are NBA Cup games and some games aren't and they

1867
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 2: all count towards the playoff standings, but only some of

1868
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 2: them count towards the And it's like, and you know,

1869
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,759
Speaker 2: as we've joked, like you only know it's an NBA

1870
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 2: Cup game because of the court. It's just like, Adam,

1871
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 2: just give us a stupid bracket. Let's fill it out.

1872
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 2: By the way, we have a Fox Sports Radio college

1873
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 2: football playoff bracket that you can fill out at Foxsports

1874
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 2: Radio dot iHeart dot com right now. Fun fact, just

1875
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 2: give us a bracket and will be probably more into

1876
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 2: it than it is now. It listen all I will say.

1877
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 2: You can tell something is not working when they are

1878
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 2: changing the location. I think that's the other thing too.

1879
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,679
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be this big Vegas destination getaway

1880
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 2: thing that's clearly not happening. And like I said, it

1881
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 2: could have worked middle of December. I know, we had

1882
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 2: college football playoff games in NFL. There's nothing going on

1883
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,600
Speaker 2: in the middle week. Get them out there on a Tuesday,

1884
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 2: play Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, whatever. I don't know. There are

1885
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:02,719
Speaker 2: way to create interest in the NBA in the middle

1886
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 2: of the season outside of the regular season. This just

1887
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 2: isn't it. And it's year three and people don't get it.

1888
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 2: And I'll add this too, the whole college arenas thing.

1889
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 2: First of all, I was joking with a buddy like

1890
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 2: so in uh when they I don't know how much

1891
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 2: you follow like regular season college basketball, jam er, but

1892
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,600
Speaker 2: like they play whatever, like two teams just need to

1893
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 2: play a game just to be on a neutral court.

1894
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 2: They do it at the Sanford Pentagon, which is basically

1895
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,719
Speaker 2: in South Dakota. And I was like, yeah, Adam Silver's

1896
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 2: gonna somehow screw this up and put this at the

1897
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 2: Sanford Pentagon. Okay, but I would bring it up because

1898
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 2: now they want to move it to Cameron Indoor or

1899
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:47,679
Speaker 2: fog Allen Fieldhouse or whatever. It's another bad idea that's

1900
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 2: not gonna work. You know why Kansas games are really

1901
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 2: awesome at fog Allen One because it's Kansas University. Yeah,

1902
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 2: and two because they've been playing there for a hundred

1903
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 2: plus years, eighty years old. You don't say, yeah, listen, listen.

1904
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 2: I'll give Adam Silver the benefit of the doubt. I

1905
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 2: think if Wemby shows up on a Tuesday in Lawrence, Kansas,

1906
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 2: it might peak interest from the people that are there.

1907
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 2: But if you expect Kansas versus Duke or Duke versus

1908
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 2: Carolina at Cameron Indoor because you brought Wenby or Giannis,

1909
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen. It's just this guy just drives

1910
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 2: me freaking crazy. But that's the other element they now

1911
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 2: want to go to iconic back college basketball arenas. I

1912
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 2: can tell you ninety nine percent of college basketball fans

1913
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 2: either don't understand this or do not care at all.

1914
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just like, I don't know what it says

1915
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:47,799
Speaker 3: about where your sport is that you're having to generate

1916
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 3: novelty after novelty after novelty. We're trying to fix the

1917
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 3: All Star Game, We're trying to mask load management, we're

1918
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 3: trying to, you know, do all of the saying, so

1919
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 3: here's this, here's the NBA Cup, so that our so

1920
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 3: that looks like our season matters before it does. When

1921
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 3: no one is paying attention to your sport right now

1922
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 3: at all, And like, I just it's again, it just

1923
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 3: feels like stop trying to make fetch a thing. Like

1924
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 3: I mean, we've said that before, but that's really what

1925
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,719
Speaker 3: it is. It's like, dude, like no one cares about

1926
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 3: this right now, you can do all that you want.

1927
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 3: The only thing that I'm interested in right now that's

1928
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,120
Speaker 3: happening in the NBA is whatever was going on with

1929
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 3: Chris Paul and the Clippers talk about read that article

1930
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 3: this week that was actually interesting to me. But outside

1931
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 3: of that, there's just nothing here, man, Like there's just

1932
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 3: I understand you're the commissioner, you got to figure out something,

1933
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 3: but all of this just feels like desperation to me, Like,

1934
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 3: stop trying to create a tournament. You already have one.

1935
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 3: You crown a champion until that point, stay in the

1936
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 3: shallow in homes like no one's buying this. There's no

1937
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 3: reason to overshoot your You just you can't get there.

1938
01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 3: Let it go.

1939
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. And I think the other thing too, and

1940
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 2: last thing, because I want to get to the sagre

1941
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 2: I actually do want to talk about that Clipper story.

1942
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 3: Is like.

1943
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 2: It's one thing if like you and I don't care

1944
01:41:14,560 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 2: or it hasn't really caught on.

1945
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 3: But.

1946
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 2: You have to. You have to make the teams care,

1947
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 2: like like you know, the biggest way that I know

1948
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 2: that this isn't a thing that I should care about.

1949
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 2: The Knicks are not raising a banner for it. And

1950
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 2: if you remember last year, the Bucks won it and

1951
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,919
Speaker 2: there was champagne in the locker room, but they refuse

1952
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 2: to drink it. And so you know, listen, I I

1953
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 2: think that's the number one issue. You can't make it

1954
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 2: a thing that we care about if the players and

1955
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,640
Speaker 2: the teams are telling you don't care about it. And

1956
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 2: by the way, I think it was Nick, right, I'll

1957
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 2: give him credit. I want to say it was maybe him.

1958
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 2: Basically he just said, just put up a banner, like like,

1959
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 2: just mandate that a banner goes up, so where at

1960
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 2: least pretending like this thing matters now Apparently.

1961
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 3: Then you would opt out of playing in it, like

1962
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 3: if you had any chance of winning, Like, nope, nope,

1963
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 3: there will be no banner for us to raise for

1964
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 3: the end season tournament. Like like, I understand what you're

1965
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 3: saying about, Nick, But at that point, I'm like, all right,

1966
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 3: I'm we're just we're just gonna take the NBA Cup

1967
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 3: off because we don't want to hang a banner and

1968
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 3: we're afraid we might win this thing.

1969
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. You know who has no banners

1970
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 2: of any substance at all. Arnie Spanier No, Arnie Spaniards,

1971
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcats won a championship. The Clippers, No, that's Clippers

1972
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 2: never have though, and we're starting to see why you

1973
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 2: talk about a rotten apple. That entire locker room stinks.

1974
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 2: Now that Chris Paul is gone, we're gonna discuss that

1975
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 2: next First, though, let's get over the news desk to

1976
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,719
Speaker 2: Seger final time for us this evening. What is trending?

1977
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:55,720
Speaker 6: Serp And I will also add pile on, perhaps just

1978
01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:58,679
Speaker 6: as a statistician, the fact that you're playing a game

1979
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,759
Speaker 6: during the season that's supposed to be a big deal

1980
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 6: and it doesn't count in the stats, kind of like

1981
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 6: when you created that new first round to open the

1982
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 6: postseason and that play in doesn't count in the stats.

1983
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 6: What are you doing? So you're you're a league that's

1984
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 6: asking people to care about a game that you literally

1985
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 6: don't care about enough to put it down on papers

1986
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 6: for eternity. I mean, that's just you're telling me that

1987
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 6: the next game against fill in the blank, Utah Orlando

1988
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:36,320
Speaker 6: in the last month counts more, means more than what

1989
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:37,679
Speaker 6: we saw in Vegas.

1990
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:39,640
Speaker 2: Just is it a thing or is it not? You

1991
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 2: got to decide on him so, and I don't think,

1992
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 2: by the way, Clippers hornets at fog Allen Field House

1993
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 2: is the answer. But that's another conversation.

1994
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 6: The only way that would really work is if you

1995
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 6: have a tie in with somebody on the roster. Sure,

1996
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,759
Speaker 6: you know, if the Clippers when they had Elton Brand,

1997
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 6: if you're going to Cameron or you know, any number

1998
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 6: of guys over the years, absolutely that would work. But

1999
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 6: you don't know in advance.

2000
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 2: That's exactly it. By the way, as a college basketball guy,

2001
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 2: I do find it funny that for years they were

2002
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 2: trying to kill college basketball and now they're basically trying

2003
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 2: to piggyback off of what is clearly you know.

2004
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 6: Oh no, some leads they can't match. Yeah, some leagues

2005
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 6: do a really good job of just shooting themselves in

2006
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 6: the foot. Just give them time.

2007
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2008
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, what is the thing is these Bears come back victories.

2009
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 6: The Bears had not won a game that they were

2010
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 6: trailing by double digits with three minutes left since two

2011
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,639
Speaker 6: thousand and two. They were down to the Packers at

2012
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 6: home tonight with two minutes left, sixteen to six, and

2013
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:43,640
Speaker 6: still beat Green Bay in overtime twenty two to sixteen.

2014
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams with two late touchdown passes, including this.

2015
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 7: Now Caleb play fake looking to throw, searching for j

2016
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:53,520
Speaker 7: More over the shoulder.

2017
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 3: Catch me touchdown.

2018
01:44:55,320 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 7: Bears HiT's over at Soldier Field. The iceman come who

2019
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 7: I Smith take it a forty six yard spiral to

2020
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:09,600
Speaker 7: the end zone to Djmore twenty two sixteen.

2021
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 6: Bears finally in overtime Jeff Jodiak, Bears Radio. We mentioned

2022
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:17,600
Speaker 6: it last hour. The Bears this season have six different victories.

2023
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 6: After trailing in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter,

2024
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 6: they are up to eleven and four, six and one

2025
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:27,439
Speaker 6: at home. Packers quarterback Jordan Love left in the first

2026
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 6: half with a concussion on a roughing the passer penalty.

2027
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 6: Green Bay, on its possession of overtime, had fumbled the

2028
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 6: snap on fourth and one. Cairo Santo's silent hero in

2029
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 6: this one for the Bears three for three on field

2030
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 6: goals in a tough wind, and he hit from forty three,

2031
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 6: forty six and fifty one yards. Theoretically, if he doesn't

2032
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 6: make even one of those, they don't go to overtime,

2033
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 6: but in the last two minutes of regulation, the Bears

2034
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 6: had a field goal a very rare on side kick

2035
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 6: recovery and then the tying touchdown pass which came on

2036
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 6: fourth down. Running Backanungai ninety three total yards and only

2037
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 6: twelve touches. Green Bay had failed to score a TD

2038
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 6: on three different goal to go drives and in fact

2039
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 6: on red zone tds oh for five. Tonight, Philadelphia clinched

2040
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 6: its division title with a win at Washington twenty nine eighteen.

2041
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 6: No team had won the NFC East in back to

2042
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 6: back years since Philly about twenty years ago. Commanders have

2043
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 6: lost nine of their last ten. They'll be hosting Dallas

2044
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 6: on Christmas Day and then at Philadelphia to finish. Dallas,

2045
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:31,759
Speaker 6: by the way mathematically eliminated thanks to this result, Eagles

2046
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 6: were down late third quarter ten to seven. Jalen Hurts

2047
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 6: two touchdown passes. Saquon Barkley on twenty one carries one

2048
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty two yards in a score. Aj Brown

2049
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:44,959
Speaker 6: nine catches ninety five yards. Quarterback Marcus Mariota of Washington

2050
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 6: left with a right hand injury. Josh Johnson entered and

2051
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 6: threw an interception. The Rams fired special teams coordinator Chase Blackburn.

2052
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 6: Dallas placed defensive back to Ron Blant. On injury reserve,

2053
01:46:55,880 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 6: but Trayvon Diggs was activated. Brown's tackle Jack Cocklin was

2054
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 6: placed on IR with a concussion. Buffalo activated wide receiver

2055
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 6: mi Cole Hardman and elevated kicker Michael badge Lee. Dolphins

2056
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 6: kicker Jason Sanders is out with a hip injury. First

2057
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 6: round of the college football playoff is over Oregon Whip

2058
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 6: James Madison fifty one thirty four. The Duck scored touchdowns

2059
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 6: on their first five drives. Ole miss had beaten Tulane

2060
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:22,640
Speaker 6: in September forty five to ten, beat him at the

2061
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 6: same place today forty one to ten, and Miami was

2062
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:28,799
Speaker 6: scoreless at the half. At Texas A and M final

2063
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:31,639
Speaker 6: ten to three, Hurricanes on a touchdown with under two

2064
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 6: minutes left. A and M quarterback Marcel Reid with three turnovers,

2065
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 6: including an interception in the end zone with under thirty

2066
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 6: seconds to go. The NBA late game went to the Clippers,

2067
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 6: who were six and twenty one, but beat the Lakers

2068
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 6: one oh three eighty eight. Lakers were already missing three

2069
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 6: injured starters and Luka Donsich left with a bruised leg.

2070
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 6: Orlando won in overtime by a point. At Utah, on

2071
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 6: a last second basket by Desmond Bain, who had thirty

2072
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 6: two points. Houston got thirty one from Kevin Durant and

2073
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:00,959
Speaker 6: won at Denver one fifteen one oh one on victories

2074
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 6: for Portland and Golden State College hoops at Madison Square Garden,

2075
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 6: Texas Tech beat number three Duke on a late free

2076
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 6: throw eighty two eighty one NHL wins for Tampa Bay

2077
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 6: and Anaheim.

2078
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve sagar Sega,

2079
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 2: of a great evening. Be listening to you tomorrow. I

2080
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,679
Speaker 2: assume with all the fellows, aren't he Spaniard CRISP Blank?

2081
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:22,439
Speaker 2: She kind of curious to hear what Chris Blank has

2082
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 2: to say about Friday night in Norman, Oklahoma.

2083
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 6: I don't believe anybody had blown a college football playoff

2084
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 6: game like they did Friday night since Oklahoma blew a

2085
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 6: similar lead in the Rose Bowl to Georgia and Sony

2086
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 6: Michell in Company years ago.

2087
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 2: That's true. It wasn't at home.

2088
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 6: Though, no home field, my goodness.

2089
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 2: And it wasn't at home to a team with a

2090
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:44,600
Speaker 2: coach that was ready to leave for another job. If no,

2091
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm kidding it was. That was a big online joke

2092
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 2: was that he had already accepted the Michigan job, but

2093
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:51,640
Speaker 2: they felled down seventeen.

2094
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 6: And an Alabama team whose offense was making you wonder,

2095
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 6: are they going to score twenty points tonight? They're down

2096
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 6: seventeen nothing already, it's not even halftime.

2097
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 3: And the running joke was the game that you saw

2098
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 3: this afternoon with Texas A and m and Miami, that's

2099
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 3: what you were expecting last night, Like that's what you

2100
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 3: were expecting between Alabama and Oklahoma. Those two games flipped

2101
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 3: and you did not get that at all.

2102
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 6: I was kind of expecting that. Once this Miami game

2103
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,759
Speaker 6: was getting into the third quarter, low scoring and the fourth,

2104
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 6: I'm saying, you know, the winner goes to Ohio State

2105
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 6: matchup New Year's Eve. That's good. That's the game that's

2106
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:27,519
Speaker 6: going to be thirteen to ten. It's going to be,

2107
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:30,120
Speaker 6: you know, in Indiana, Ohio State. These these I mean

2108
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:32,920
Speaker 6: seven sacks from the Hurricanes today. We've seen what Ohio

2109
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:34,759
Speaker 6: State's defense is throughout the season.

2110
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 2: We'll find out New Year's Eve, New Year's Date. Ja

2111
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:40,639
Speaker 2: Martin and I will be on air, by the way,

2112
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:44,000
Speaker 2: at seven pm Pacific ten Eastern, filling in for Jason

2113
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 2: Smith and Mike Harman. Of course, we have a full

2114
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 2: show to do before that. Jmart real quick, and thank

2115
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 2: you again to Segrev a great evening. Before we wrap

2116
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 2: the show, a couple things one well not a couple things.

2117
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,680
Speaker 2: I want to focus on one thing. That is this

2118
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 2: weird situation with the Los Angeles Clippers. So what was

2119
01:50:02,120 --> 01:50:04,240
Speaker 2: it two two and a half weeks ago. I think,

2120
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 2: you know it was a very early news dump, but

2121
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 2: that Chris Paul had left the Clippers, his time there

2122
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 2: was done, and essentially that his career was done. We're

2123
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what was going on, and it

2124
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 2: was clear that Chris Paul was trying to, you know,

2125
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 2: elevate everyone in the building, and everybody from Tylou the

2126
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 2: head coach on down was not agreeing with him and

2127
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:29,519
Speaker 2: not butting heads. Bring it up, Ramona Shelburn, I'll give

2128
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 2: her some credit from ESPN put out a report this week.

2129
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 2: If you want an indication of how chaotic and maybe

2130
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:40,919
Speaker 2: sad the Los Angeles Clippers are. Chris Paul and his wife.

2131
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Speaker 2: Obviously this was now a couple months ago. Through a

2132
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 2: Halloween party for the Los Angeles Clippers team, the hopes

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01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:51,679
Speaker 2: to build a little bit of camaraderie. Well, it didn't

2134
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 2: really happen because basically one to do teammates showed up

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01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 2: three total, Actually I take that back, not including of

2136
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 2: course James Harden and Kawhi Leonard. So basically Chris Ball

2137
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 2: showed up tried to kind of elevate the locker room.

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01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 2: You know, this is a guy that everywhere he goes

2139
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 2: the team improves, except with the Clippers. I think it's

2140
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 2: a good metaphor for why the Clippers are the Clippers

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01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 2: and why James Harden and Kawhi Leonard are always gonna

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01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 2: be James Harden and Kawhi Leonard.

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Speaker 3: Jamar Man I like reading through this and looking at

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01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:27,719
Speaker 3: it like just and you even sell some comments from

2145
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 3: like other people that are just like man, Chris Paul

2146
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 3: is a pain in the butt regularly imagine this and

2147
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 3: all this other kind of stuff is like, dude, I

2148
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,599
Speaker 3: don't think this is a Chris Paul problem. Like this

2149
01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 3: is this is so just indicative of what that organization

2150
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 3: is and what it's been and how everything has gone wrong.

2151
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 3: And you can go all the way back. You bring

2152
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 3: in playoff p and you get rid of shake gilches

2153
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 3: Alexander and all the draft picks that have turned into

2154
01:51:57,640 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 3: Jay when Williams like you think about all of it

2155
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 3: horribly run And then let's not let's ghost Chris Paul.

2156
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 3: Let's not go to his party when he's trying to

2157
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 3: do stuff for team chemistry and all this other kind

2158
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:15,280
Speaker 3: of stuff. Let's reject his leadership because we I don't

2159
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 3: even know, like what's the rationale for it? And then

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01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 3: like Lawrence Frank apparently he's just kind of like, man,

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01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 3: that was a good thing you tried to do. Man,

2162
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 3: it's just like what are we doing here? Like this

2163
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:29,680
Speaker 3: has got to be It's just so damning. It's so

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01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 3: pathetic in so many different ways. It's just like how

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01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 3: how could this organization be more deficient than this? And

2166
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 3: you look at this and you're just like, oh, yeah, okay,

2167
01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 3: this they could they could actually be worse. This is

2168
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 3: a team that has a lot of talent, but and like,

2169
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:51,680
Speaker 3: I mean, what is TYLERU doing? This is a disaster

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01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:53,800
Speaker 3: for them, complete disaster.

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01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just it's a metaphor. And you know

2172
01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 2: it's funny. I think I told the story and you

2173
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:02,639
Speaker 2: know whatever, I don't need to get into all the details,

2174
01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 2: but basically, let me let me even I'm not evenna

2175
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 2: say what I was gonna say, but you you and

2176
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,480
Speaker 2: I were on air for Game seven last year, Clippers,

2177
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 2: when James Harden was whatever, two for six from the field. Listen,

2178
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,599
Speaker 2: I said it. Then I'll say it now. I'm sorry.

2179
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 2: Guy's a loser and I mean that and saying, oh, tours,

2180
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 2: you never played in the NBA, but whatever. James Harden

2181
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 2: has never won anything of note. He has allowsy attitude.

2182
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 2: Nowhere is better for him being there, certainly at least

2183
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 2: not since he left Houston. And even Houston, you know,

2184
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:37,639
Speaker 2: won a bunch of individual awards, team didn't win anything.

2185
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 2: And then Kawhi Leonard Listen, he did a lot of

2186
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 2: great things in San Antonio. He did a lot of

2187
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 2: great things in Toronto. This has been a dud. It

2188
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 2: just has been. And so you want a reason, you

2189
01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 2: want a metaphor for why this organization is stuck in

2190
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 2: the mud and cannot get out of it. This is

2191
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 2: probably pretty good right here, Clippers. Yeah, anything else that no, I.

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01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:58,760
Speaker 3: Mean, I agree, I mean, you know what I think

2193
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 3: of Harden. I mean, like, there are times when he's

2194
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 3: amazing for you on the floor even now. But he's

2195
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 3: just not a guy you're gonna win with because the

2196
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 3: culture and the chemistry surrounding him have never been good. Like,

2197
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:15,720
Speaker 3: you respect his ability, but he's just not a guy

2198
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:17,840
Speaker 3: you want to go to war with. He's just not

2199
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:22,719
Speaker 3: And he has not shown himself in so many key

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01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 3: moments during the course of his career that this could

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01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:27,680
Speaker 3: have been foreseen. And you add him to one of

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01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 3: the more aloof guys, dude that barely even talks to

2203
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 3: his own teammates from reports and all this other stuff.

2204
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 3: I just, I mean, how was this supposed to work?

2205
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 3: This seems like we could have foreseen this a long

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01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 3: time ago.

2207
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 2: Well, I do have some good news for James Harden.

2208
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 2: Clippers currently sitting even after the win on Saturday night

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01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 2: against the Lakers at seven and twenty one overall, five

2210
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 2: games out of the ten spot and the play in.

2211
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,400
Speaker 2: Good news for James Harden is you can't blow a

2212
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 2: big playoff game if you're not in the playoffs. So

2213
01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Erra towards Jason Martin will come back

2214
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 2: the show a little bit of college football as we

2215
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:07,520
Speaker 2: get ready for the quarterfinals of the college football playoff.

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Speaker 2: That's next. Fox Sports Ready, Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio aerators. Jason Barton broadcasting that I from the Fox

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01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios. We're taking you up till two am Eastern,

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01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 2: eleven minutes from now. Bernie Frado takes over for us.

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01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 2: As we told this second ago, Bernie Frado as plugged

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01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 2: in as anybody at Michigan. He's got a lot of

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01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 2: stuff on a lot of different topics, but cannot wait

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01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 2: to hear what he has to say about the Michigan

2224
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 2: coaching job. By the way, as we go off air,

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01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 2: remember if you missed any of today's show, you're gonna

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01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 2: want to catch the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio

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01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,800
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01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:51,320
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01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get podcasts, and

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Speaker 2: you'll find today's show right after we get off air.

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Speaker 2: All right, so I mettioned a second ago Bernie Fratto.

2233
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 2: Nobody more plugged in in the state of Michigan. Michigan

2234
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:08,080
Speaker 2: still very much looking for a head coach. One man

2235
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 2: who's not going to be the head coach Arizona States

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01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham, who agreed to an extension really quickly jamartin

2237
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:17,160
Speaker 2: I want to play a piece of sound. Kenny Dillingham

2238
01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 2: agreed to an extension on Saturday morning to stay at

2239
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 2: Arizona State and was asked afterward what he needs and

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01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 2: what Arizona State needs to get to the top of

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01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 2: college football. Here's what he had to say.

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01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 8: We need to find one of these really rich people

2243
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 8: in this city to step up and stroke a check,

2244
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 8: and I'll do everything I can to make you the

2245
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 8: most famous person in the city.

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01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 6: Right that's really what we need.

2247
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 3: We need one person.

2248
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 2: We live in Phoenix, Arizona.

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01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:46,120
Speaker 8: You're telling me there's not one person who can stroke

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01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 8: a twenty million dollar check right now. There is somebody

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01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 8: out here who can. There's somebody who can. There's somebody,

2252
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 8: and like.

2253
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:55,600
Speaker 3: Other people are going to sacrifice.

2254
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 8: To be here, somebody step up, step up and be

2255
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 8: that dude to say, holy cow, what completely changed it?

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01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 3: This person.

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01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:06,680
Speaker 8: There's somebody out there that's going to listen to this,

2258
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 8: that's going to get it forwarded it. If you know

2259
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 8: somebody who can do it, forward this message to somebody.

2260
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 8: Somebody can step up and completely take this place from

2261
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 8: the direction that's going to Holy Cow and it's right

2262
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 8: here in the city.

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01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:21,360
Speaker 2: All right. So that was Kenny Dillingham talking about the

2264
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 2: state of Arizona football, Arizona State football. So I have

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01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 2: two quick thoughts I'll toss it over to you. One,

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01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 2: I kind of think it's kind of lame to drop

2267
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 2: that the day that you sign an extension that's paying

2268
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 2: you seven and a half million dollars a year. I

2269
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 2: understand he should earn every dollar that Arizona State wants

2270
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 2: to give, but asking others for money on a day

2271
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 2: you signed for a seven and a half million dollar

2272
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 2: extension per year deal kind of lame as far as

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01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm concerned. But I think the reason I wanted to

2274
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 2: bring it up, what does it mean for the state

2275
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 2: of college football or does it not mean anything? That

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01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 2: that is basically where we're at, is that if you

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01:57:56,840 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 2: don't have a booster or twenty boosters or whatever that

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01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 2: are willing to write those big checks like a Texas Tech,

2279
01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 2: like a Texas maybe in Miami Ohio state, that you,

2280
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 2: frankly maybe have no chance of competing at the top

2281
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:09,640
Speaker 2: of the sport.

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01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 3: So I don't have any problem with him saying it

2283
01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 3: because I can't find the lie. Sure he stayed there

2284
01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 3: instead of going to Michigan where it would be easier,

2285
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 3: where the coffers are bigger. And he's saying, look, I mean,

2286
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 3: he didn't say this, but he's thirty five, it's his

2287
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 3: alma mater, he loves it, he chose it quite frankly,

2288
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 3: and he's gonna stay there. But he's saying, look, I mean,

2289
01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:35,760
Speaker 3: I mean, he's basically saying, there's only so much that

2290
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 3: we can do. We need you, and I think that

2291
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 3: like it sounds like a joke, but it's really not.

2292
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 3: He's really saying, yeah, I need somebody that's willing to

2293
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 3: open it up, open up that bank account, and help

2294
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 3: us build the team that we have to build to

2295
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 3: try and compete today. What it says about college football

2296
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 3: is a shame. But that again is why I think

2297
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:57,720
Speaker 3: that this whole and we did it off the top,

2298
01:58:57,800 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 3: and you can go listen to the podcast if you

2299
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 3: missed it, because we were on opposite sides of the issue.

2300
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 3: While you look at Tulane and James Madison, you're just

2301
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:07,160
Speaker 3: like this can't continue, Like we have to find a

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01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 3: way to fix some of this and make this because

2303
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 3: there's not an even playing field. It's got to be

2304
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 3: a meritocracy. But when you got teams spending the kinds

2305
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 3: of money that all these playoff teams are generally going

2306
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 3: to spend, you just can't measure up from an athlete standpoint.

2307
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 3: You can't do it. So I look at what he's saying.

2308
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 3: He's just like, yeah, I know you're excited that I'm here. Now,

2309
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 3: you know, do what you can to help me out

2310
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 3: so that we can actually take this thing to the

2311
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 3: Promised Land. I got no problem with it at all,

2312
01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 3: because I think he's just being dead honest.

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01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that. I can't I honestly can't get

2314
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 2: that mad because I think it's the truth. But it

2315
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:46,680
Speaker 2: was an interesting quote, and you know, I don't know

2316
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 2: that I've heard anybody say it quite so bluntly. Don't

2317
01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 2: really know what else we got, man, It was an

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01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:56,080
Speaker 2: awesome show, covered a lot of ground, really.

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01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 3: Good Christmas coming up.

2320
01:59:57,320 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you what do you got going on for Christmas?

2321
02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 3: Man? You know what I got? I got two kids,

2322
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 3: and I've got one that's you know, one and a

2323
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 3: half that this is really the first one where she's

2324
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 3: gonna sort of kind of understand some of what's going on,

2325
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:13,240
Speaker 3: and we got another one that really understands Santa now.

2326
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:15,720
Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm excited to be a father going

2327
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 3: into this week, and excited about all the football and

2328
02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 3: all that we're gonna have afterwards.

2329
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:20,800
Speaker 2: All right, well we gotta get out of here. Well, I

2330
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 2: thank the crew, Mary mac Ian, Steve Desager from my

2331
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:26,640
Speaker 2: partner Jason Martin im meritors. J Martin, have a merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Same to everybody else. We'll talk next week