1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Da Around the NFL Podcast, Watch Them Whip, Watch Them Nannie. 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition to Ye Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Ands, and I am joined by 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Greg Rosatal. What's up, boys, Hey, Dan? M good evening, 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Oh good evening. It is indeed upset Sunday. Upset Sunday. 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: If I would say there were four substantial upsets in 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: the NFL today, three of which I would call legitimately stunning, 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: three big upsets the Jets you're counting, I mean that's 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: an upset, an upset. I would to count that in 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: the stunning. That's about the same as the Bears beating 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: the Bucks upset literally and that's five then. And you 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: know what was that a game that was played today? 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of that, but uh, you know, major 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: playoff implications with some of these upsets as well. This 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: was a day. You know, it's one of those days 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: where just when you think you have the NFL figured out, 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: it throws you the old you turn we did the 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: NFL now hit before we started saying, Mark, you said 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: you were agitated by some of the results today because 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: it kind of flew in the face of what you 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: saw is logical in this league. Well, I meaneah, we 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: can get into it with some of those games. But 24 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: I feel a lot of times where we come to 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: a conclusion about certain teams late in the year that 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: suddenly a week later it really means next to nothing. 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm not just learning this now. That was condescending, but 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's it just is the way it is 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: the nature of today's league, where if you watch back 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: in the eighties and early nineties, a little different. I 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: like it. It's fine. How is everyone's Christmas? It was 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: excellent and with the family, your wife under the weather, 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: everyone under the weather. But that just, you know, that 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: just ups the ending. You just gotta get in there 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: and do a little bit more. Texas was fine. A 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: lot of driving when you go to Texas, but it's 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: great to see my wife's family. They're all good people. 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: I understand. You know you are Jewish, as has been 39 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: well known on this podcast, not religious culturally, if nothing. 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: But on Christmas, um, I heard you went to the 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: movie theater and watched Concussion twelve consecutive times. That sounds terrible. 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: So it's the way to sell, but I have never 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: seen concussion, which is something I have in common with 44 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: most of America. Um. By the way, I know we 45 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: do Christmas in the rosent. I know, I'm just kidding. 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: That was a bit in the business. You should know 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: that with jessly Knicks podcast, your famous friend. UM see, 48 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: I get you your plugs with that thing. Um. So yes, uh, 49 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: we we'll talk. Let's talk a little later about concussion. 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: Also real quick, Greg, let's talk sandwich and box office 51 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: a little later in the show. A lot to get 52 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: to um today coming up on the show, and you 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: know you have when we're talking about upsets, talking about upsets. 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: The Panthers entered today two wins away from becoming only 55 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: the second team in NFL history to go sixteen and oh, 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they did it without being you know, 57 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: no spoilers here, but a lot of There's been a 58 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: lot of hints dropped in the first couple of minutes 59 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: of the show to tell you maybe that's not the case. 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: The Washington Redskins Chris Westling's one of his favorite teams. 61 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: West as certain teams that he aligns himself with. This season, 62 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: the Redskins have been one of them on Saturday night 63 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: they played with a chance to clinch the NFC East. 64 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: We'll talk about what happened in Field Philadelphia, and of 65 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: course Sunday Night Football, the game that I know mark 66 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: as a big NFC North fand the game you've been 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: looking forward to, the New York Giants without Odell Beckham 68 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: traveling to the ice box in Minneapolis to face the Vikings. 69 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk about Sunday Night Football at the bottom of 70 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: the show, must we Hey, listen, that's what we do, 71 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: just like Len Dawson and Nick Bona Conti and the 72 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: old inside the NFL, we talked about every game. I 73 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: can tell already that Greg is not going to give 74 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: me an inch of wiggle room on this show tonight. 75 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: I gotta get fun about this show. I'm feel good 76 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: about the show. There's a little there's some edge, little 77 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: heat low here. You know. The New York Jets. They've 78 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: been winning some football games, which we might talk about 79 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: a little up bit a little bit later. Life is 80 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: on balance a good thing. It's sad I'm at the 81 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: point where I have to root for the Jets because 82 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: the show is just gonna be better. Like how boring 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: with that intro would have been half as long, half 84 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: as excited Dan has without the Jets. By the way, 85 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: you got condensation. I was condescended. So I have to 86 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: allow Greg just basically questioned my professionalism here. Next I 87 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: question your colonel of wisdom that life is on balance 88 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: a good thing. I mean, isn't that obvious? Oh? Well 89 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: say that for the theology podcast. All right, let's move on. 90 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: Let's start talking about games. And we have to start 91 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers. Why because, as we said, they 92 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: entered today fourteen and oh, the perfect season in sight. 93 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: But guess what the perfect season is no more. Cam 94 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: Newton harassed all day long by Vic Beasley and the 95 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: Falcons front seven Julio Jones made big plays when it counted, 96 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: a twenty thirteen upset win for the Falcons West. The 97 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: Panthers fall to fourteen and one, and this loss was 98 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: hardly a fluke. Wasn't nothing flukey about this. The Falcons 99 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: had a hundred five more yards and the Panthers and 100 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: really left nine points on the field three different field 101 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: goal opportunities that they blew. This could have been twenty 102 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: nine to thirteen or twenty nine to sixteen, but the Falcons. 103 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 1: What are the better team on Sunday and Cam Newton 104 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: admitted it, Well, you think about back to the game 105 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: they had with the Saints. You play a road game 106 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: in your division against your your rival who has a 107 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: solid quarterback, and we'll see. We'll talk about the Steelers later. 108 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: You know that it's never gonna be a cinch, even 109 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: though we expected it to be. The crazy thing, too, 110 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 1: is it puts them in a position where Cardinals next week. 111 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: If the Panthers ever lost to the Bucks, this team 112 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: that was twenty four hours ago, fourteen and oh, could 113 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: lose that number one seat, that would be shocking. Here's 114 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: what Cam Newton had to say after the game. Obvious 115 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: lee he was not pleased with the outcome and didn't 116 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: think his team played very well. So this is what 117 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: Newton had to say, for the first time a losing quarterback. 118 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: We got our ass kicked today and to a lot 119 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: of degree we deserved it, especially the type of way 120 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: we played. But yeah, you know, we know we're capable 121 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: of you know, we're fourteen and one right now. Who 122 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: put ourselves in a situation that we can use this 123 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: as fuel to the fire. I you know what, You're 124 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: right mark they are mathematically there is a chance that 125 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: they fall to the two seed. I think they take 126 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: care of business. I think they go fifteen and one 127 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: because this team has shown it all season that they 128 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: know how to bounce back from adversity, and I think 129 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: they'll do it. Here. We good a week without Josh 130 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: Norman talking potentially well Julio Jones beating him. He caught 131 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: seven of eight targets for ninety one yards in Josh 132 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: Norman's coverage, added a seventy yard touchdown over Luke Keikley 133 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: and Kirk Coleman. But there is a crack that's starting 134 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: to show in this defense. They lost ben A ben 135 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: Wickery they're excellent slot corner a few weeks ago, and 136 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: now Courtland again his trail and wide receivers around the fields. 137 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: Roddy White had his best game of the year, so 138 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: did Matt Ryan, and I think Roddy White's playing in 139 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: the slot quite a bit with with Courtland Finnegan on him. 140 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Roddy White versus Courtland Finnegan would have been a great 141 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: matchup seven or eight years ago. You wouldn't expect it 142 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: it'd be such a big matchup for today. But as 143 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: someone that witnessed the Patriots in two thousand seven go 144 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: through one of the most joyless weeks of the Super 145 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: Bowl I've ever seen. I don't know if the Panthers 146 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: would have felt that sort of pressure, but I don't 147 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: necessarily think it's a bad thing for them long term 148 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: that they lose this game. I think if you're a 149 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: fan of the Panthers, it's very disappointing because it would 150 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: have been really special to get to the regular season, 151 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: and as a fan of the NFL, I really wanted 152 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: them to get through because it just gives the playoffs 153 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: more juice. So I'm disappointed. No one's got to remember 154 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: this Falcons team. I'm annoyed with myself because when they 155 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: were thirteen and oh, I said the Giants are knocking 156 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: off because I felt that they just somebody would get 157 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: picked them off. They didn't feel like they would be 158 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: a sixteen and old team. The second I changed my 159 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: mind after they beat the Giants, I said, oh yeah, 160 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: they out of and now like I got turned on 161 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: by a team to mark not just you. Wait, so 162 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: who did Connor pick in this game? Did he finally 163 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: get this right? Now? He went with the Falcons? I 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: mean he went with the Panthers, so that means he's 165 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: now too and thirteen when picking Panthers games this year, 166 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: Any chance you guys think Cam Newton four point seven 167 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: yards per tempt that people start considering Palmer or Brady 168 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: a little more with the m v P with you 169 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: take out the sixty. I personally think Palmer's case is 170 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: just as strong as Newton's. But I think that the nation, 171 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: the national football conscience has already shifted over, and I 172 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: was already annointed Cam Newton. I agree. I think that 173 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: will be the case. You know, and Ted Gin hurt 174 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: his knee in this game, correct that there's not a 175 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: lot of depth there and receiver you take him out, 176 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: who's been a big playmaker for them. He's he's in 177 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: a situation where you don't have a lot to throw to. 178 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: He re entered, but the Falcons took him away. They 179 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: took the deep deep all away totally and kept everything 180 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: within ten yards of the line of scrimmage. You might 181 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: be for the best if they would resting starters or 182 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: not having to important game next week, they would have 183 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: had basically three weeks between important games. Now they got 184 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: to play that game, and they should take care of 185 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: the lousy bucks. I agree with that, but you know, 186 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: there was a lot of hot takes immediately on Twitter 187 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: is like, this is the best thing that ever happened 188 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: to the Panthers. That's no, it sucks for the Panthers. 189 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: We wanted sixteen and O they're not gonna get and 190 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: they got beat by an inferior team. This is not 191 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: how they wanted to stub their toe against the Falcons. 192 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: It's not the best thing. And you make a good 193 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: point about the Patriots when there was so much pressure 194 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: on them. But I mean, every Super Bowl Week with 195 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots feels joyless because that's just how they seem 196 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: to approach things. I think the last two was the 197 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I it felt very different. In eleven. They 198 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,119 Speaker 1: went out of their way to like Bill Belichick, Hey, 199 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: that was the big story, Like, hey, Bill Belichick is 200 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: having a good time. So deflate Gate was more had 201 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: brought more joy to the entire The Patriots operation was 202 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: like the North Pole in December twenty three, just a 203 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: bustle of activity and happiness. Come on, let's let's be serious, 204 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. So we talked about the 205 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: Panthers go down and how about those Arizona Cardinals, who, 206 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: by the way, not for nothing, are the team of 207 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: around the NFL, and they certainly played like it on Sunday. 208 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: They clinched a playoff by made it look easy, overwhelming 209 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: the vulnerable looking Packers a thirty eight to eight win. 210 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: Uh in Arizona, Greg the Cardinals look like the best 211 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: team in football at this very moment, and the Packers 212 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: are starting to look like a January also ran what 213 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: is going on? Uh? West said it Chris Wesseling in 214 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: our in our NFL now hit it. Thank you for 215 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: clarifying that West the best team in the league really 216 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: all year if you just look who's got the best 217 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: offense and defense combined in terms of having the top 218 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: three in both and they've outscored their opponents by more 219 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: than two hundred points. Westy said that was only the 220 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: third team ever since the turn of the century to 221 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: two thousand one Rams, two thousand seven Patriots. That's pretty 222 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: exclusive coming and only ten, I think all time, has 223 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: ever done it. Seven of them make the super Bowl, 224 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: So it's very rare to be beating teams like the 225 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: pack is that it's a playoff team and just do 226 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: it with such ease, and each week it's like we 227 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: have to find something new to talk about with this team, 228 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: And this week I'm gonna talk about that they're getting 229 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: a pass rush now without blitzing all the time. Now 230 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: they blitz In this game, they hit Aaron Rodgers eleven times. 231 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: They knocked or knocked them down eleven times, hit him 232 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: fourteen times. Eight sacks in this game. He only threw 233 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: the ball twenty eight times. Those are monster numbers. And 234 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: Dwight Freeney is beating guys one on one. He he 235 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: had I believe three sacks in this game. Clais Campbell 236 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: is rushing the past are better and now Marcus Golden 237 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: is starting to make moves. So now they're getting more 238 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: of a pass rush. By the way, uh, they gave 239 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: up eight points a late touchdown. You're saying all you know, 240 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: they're peaking all over the field and defense not their 241 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: best player. I wasn't on the field right and no, no, 242 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: honey badger, and they're deep. It really didn't matter. Now 243 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: a lot of teams have made the Packers offense look 244 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: bad this year, especially the passing attack, But man did 245 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: the Packers passing It's just you're getting used to it 246 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: now that Aaron Rodgers throats for a hundred and fifty yards. 247 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Breney said after the game that he was on an 248 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: airplane when Bruce arians called in mid October and and 249 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: they Steward Stewart has told him to get off the phone. 250 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: He had to beg to take the phone call. But 251 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: the the idea that all these other teams should have 252 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: signed Dwight freeneys hogwash. He only wanted to play for 253 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: a contender. He wasn't signing with the Colts or someone 254 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: else winning the division at the time. He was to 255 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: play for a Super Bowl contender, not some Jabroni that's 256 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: gonna go six and seven and win a division or whatever. Well, 257 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: and I was on the NFL Game Day blitz couch 258 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: today and Bucky Brooks made a good point where he 259 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: basically said that this Packers team is not built right 260 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: now to go out and play out out and muscle 261 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: teams and dominate them physically. But it's the reverse that 262 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: they're getting dominated physically, and it's happening too often. And 263 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are a terrible matchup for a team like 264 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: Green Bay. And what happened today will happen again if 265 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: they meet in the playoffs for some reason. I just 266 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm done believing in Green Bay at this point. I mean, 267 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: let's that's what they are. Here's the other thing when 268 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: you talk about uh king one thing in the NFL 269 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: and then it just blows up in your face as 270 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: the time goes on. Yeah, we were talking about Aaron 271 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers is someone that had mastered the quarterback position as 272 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: someone who's playing at a higher level than we've ever seen. 273 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: It just goes to show you one player, even the 274 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: greatest player at the position, uh cannot lift a team 275 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: that has this many flaws because they are human team 276 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: and they're showing it. Even last week in Oakland, they 277 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: that wasn't a great performance. This team is in trouble 278 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: big time. They are, And I think Bucky's point is 279 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: right on because they're they're an easy team to run against, 280 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: and they're an easy team to get after the pastor. 281 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Brian Bulaga left this game with an ankle injury. B 282 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: J Rogie left this game with a concussion. Those are 283 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: two of their toughest players up front, So that's gonna 284 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: make them even weaker if they're not back for next 285 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: week's game. Meanwhile, the Cardinals are adding weapons. Andrea Ellington 286 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: didn't play a ton in this game, but he looked 287 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: pretty good with this seven carries. David Johnson goes over 288 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: a hundred yards from scrimmage for the fourth straight week. 289 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: And Michael Floyd has really developed the Floyd looks fantastic 290 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: over the past six weeks. The best he's ever played 291 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: in his career, I think, I mean, and he's I 292 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: don't know if he's the best receiver, number one receiver, 293 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: but he's the guy getting the numbers and hundred yards 294 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: in five of the last seven games. And he you 295 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: always think of him as a vertical guy, but man, 296 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: he's making plays really good. He looks explosive after the catch. 297 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: He looks really and like you said, David Johnson the 298 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: most yards from scrimmage of any player in the NFL 299 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: over the past month and really has a dark horse 300 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: shot to get Rookie of the Year eediot yards receiving. 301 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, hee, when you said that they were lucky 302 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: when Chris Johnson got hurt, I mean that has really 303 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: played out because there's not many running backs who have 304 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: the kind of skill set that David Johnson does. He's 305 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: so much more physical than Chris Johnson. Uh, they are, 306 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: by the way, a reminder again the team of around 307 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: the NFL. And the reason they are, Uh, one of 308 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: the many reasons is the stat right here from Greg 309 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: they have more touchdowns than punts. That's outrageous. How do 310 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: you have more touchdowns? And by it doesn't seem humanly possible, No, biscuit, Yes, 311 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: he's a very si. So the Cardinals have a chance 312 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: to steal the number one seed. Who would have saw 313 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: that coming. So let's move on and let's talk about 314 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: another team that had a chance, Greg chance to take 315 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: the number one seed over in the a f C. 316 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: But this is what happens sometimes when you go to 317 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: the meadow ends and it's late December and Ryan freaking 318 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick is on the field, you can't count the other 319 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: side out. And that's what happened on Sunday. The New 320 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: York Jets, Yes, the New York Jets. That yet they 321 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: are now ten and five after a twenty to twenty 322 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: overtime win over the Patriots. Uh. That puts them in 323 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: position again to make the playoffs. No longer and we'll 324 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: get to the Steelers in a little bit. No longer. 325 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Do the Jets uh, have to win and get help. 326 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: They got the help, so now they just got a 327 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: close next week in Buffalo against Rex Ryan. Of course, 328 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: but this was a game where the Jets were up 329 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: seventeen to three, and the Pets did what the Pats do. 330 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: They got a defensive touchdown, and then in the last 331 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: couple of minutes they drive down the field convert to 332 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: fourth downs greg Um. That takes them to the goal 333 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: close to the Jets touch end zone. And then James 334 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: White scores on a wide open uh, nice little route 335 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: he runs to lose David Harris tie game. And then 336 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: what happens, greg Bill Belichick and Matthew Slayter combined to 337 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: make a very curious decision by kicking off to start overtime. Yes, 338 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: we have a coin toss, the Pats win the coin 339 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: toss to start ot and the decision is made to kick. 340 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: The Jets get the ball. The only thing that the 341 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: Pats can't let happen is the Jets score touchdown, not 342 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: letting the Patriots get on the field. And what do 343 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: the Jets do. Five plays Frances's Um here bing boom 344 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: bing bing, Eric Decker six yard touchdown, game over, Jets 345 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: walk off Brady doesn't see the field, doesn't see the field, 346 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: and the Jets are ten and five. Yeah, it's crazy 347 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: to risk the chance of Tom Brady not seeing the field. Tom, 348 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean Bill Belichick said after the game he was 349 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: thinking field position. He believed in his defense he wanted 350 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: them out in the field. There was a confusion, as 351 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: everyone knows u from Slater that they couldn't choose which 352 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: side the ball go do. I think ultimately that that's 353 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: sort of a non story. It's just the story of 354 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: why would you choose to kick off? The numbers say 355 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: that it's never really smart to kick off. It's not 356 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: that big of a difference. It's like forty four now 357 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: if the weather is crazy, like against Denver a couple 358 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: of years ago, the Patriots chose to kick off. They 359 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: actually chose which side to defend, and they wanted, you know, 360 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: to have the wind at their backs. But there was 361 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: no wind in this game. And the Patriots, even though 362 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: they didn't move the ball all day, they had just 363 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: scored a touchdown. So that part doesn't make any sense 364 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: to me. If you really believe you're gonna get a 365 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: stop and then kick a field goal, just get the 366 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: field goal. First, then get the stop. Randam Marshall said 367 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: he approached Josh McDaniels, the Pat's offensive coordinator, after the game. 368 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: They have history together in Denver, of course, and that's 369 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: what McDaniels explained, that they weren't happy with or offense. 370 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: They'd scored just one touchdown on offense all game, and 371 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: they wanted to play the field position to just stop 372 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: the Jets, get the wall back, get a field goal, 373 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: and get out of town. But that it does not 374 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: make sense. And you're Bill Belichick and you're a genius, 375 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: and you've read every book, and your dad's great, and 376 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: everybody's happy, and you're going to the Hall of Fame, 377 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: good stuff, But you it does not take a rocket 378 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: scientist to uh not choose the option that puts Tom 379 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: Brady potentially on the bench watching the game, and terrible decision. 380 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: That's what how this game will be remembered. I mean, 381 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: we were after it happened in the news room. Greg 382 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: came over what three or four times, We just trying 383 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: to unpack why they would have made this decision. And 384 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: it's Bill Belichick, so you have to say, well, he's 385 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: made forty to fifty thousand great decisions on national television. 386 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: Here's one that's very mysterious. But if this happened to 387 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: like a rookie head coach, it would be a death 388 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: knell for that individual. With Belichick, it doesn't make it 389 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: a smarter move, but I have to believe in his 390 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: mind he thought that he was benefiting his team. Makes 391 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: a lot of unconventional choices, and this one just did 392 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: not work very well. We applaud him for making unconventional choices. 393 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: I like it. They're not always right, and this one 394 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: certainly did not work out well. And you know a 395 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: couple more things. So, Ryan Fitzpatrick, he's moving up your 396 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't think you. I don't think you checked it out. 397 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: Last week he was way up there. Okay, well, grant 398 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: this Christmas week can drop Christmas Eve. But hey, if 399 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be working pounding out that QB index with 400 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: Santa Claus coming down the chimney, you should be reading it. Okay, enough, 401 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: but what I will where is he now? Is he 402 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: in the top ten? Oh? Santa Claus, he's back, just 403 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: chilling another plus days off to see if you're around 404 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: jellal Nickol enough these bits start flying out, you know, 405 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: I can't even track anymore. But Ryan Fitzpatrick three touchdowns, 406 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: no interceptions. He has now tied in West. We talked 407 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: about every year there is a Vinny Test of everdie 408 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: in n type guy that emerges from the ether, a 409 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: middling journeyman type quarterback. It is absolutely Ryan Fitzpatrick. He 410 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: tied Vinnie Test of Verdi's Jets record today twenty nine 411 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: touchdowns on the season. He has I believe, thirteen touchdowns 412 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: and just one interception during the Jets five game win 413 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: streak right now. So Fitzpatrick looks awesome. Brendan Marshall is 414 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: out of control still. Decker and Marshall both at touchdowns 415 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: for the eighth time uh this season the same game, 416 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: which is an NFL record. Here's the thing as a 417 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: Jets fan, UH, that I'd be worried about is that 418 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: they that they gave up that lead because it felt like, 419 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, you were saying, you know, they they you know, 420 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: triumphed after adversity, and that's definitely true. For them to 421 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: stand up and win in overtime and put that drive 422 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: together is incredible, but it's also a game. It seemed 423 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: like the Jets were the better team. The Patriots have 424 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 1: been taken on water here for a while. They have 425 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: not looked good. They lose their left tackle immediately, which 426 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: is just Sebastian Vollmer. It looked like a serious injury. 427 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: We'll find out on on Monday, but I wouldn't be 428 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 1: surprised if he's done for by the end of the game. 429 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: In the fourth string left tackle, right, they're not They're 430 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: not moving the ball at all. They're giving up huge 431 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 1: pressure to Brady. They have no running game whatsoever, especially 432 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: when they're playing a team like the Jets, and yet 433 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: they somehow managed to get in overtime against the good 434 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: team like the Jets with one of the signature plays 435 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: I think of Gronk's career on that fourth and nine 436 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: and almost stole that game. So as a Patriots fan, 437 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't know whether to be encouraged or not. Well, 438 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: here's why when nound's weird. But that's genuinely how I feel. 439 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: If the Jets, though, have so much psychological damage with 440 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: New England that I don't care how they won. If 441 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: you're a Jets fan, you've got it done. It doesn't matter. 442 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: All of that is sideline minutia. They got it done, 443 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: and it was this today in the newsroom, and we 444 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: were busy, so we weren't able to celebrate with Dan 445 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: and put like a wreath on his head and stuff. 446 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: But you were running around the newsroom pumping us. You 447 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: were genuinely hyped up. It might be the most animated 448 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: I've seen it was, but this was You've waited a 449 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: long time? Was this the biggest Jets game in four years? 450 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: Coincidentally the last game the biggest win I should say, 451 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: against the Patriots in the playoffs in two thousand eleven. 452 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: And Greg, let me just say something right now before 453 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: we move on, because we should move on. I could 454 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: talk about this game for another three hours, if you 455 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: guys know, but I'll stop after this question. The Jets 456 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: split with the Pats. Yeah, Jets probably should have won 457 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: the game in New England too. Let's be honest that logic. Listen, 458 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: Does that mean they just grant that they could have 459 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: were they were winning and then they got dominated in 460 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter? Whatever? Now point being by a point 461 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: being the Jets could make the playoffs? Now, sure you 462 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: gotta be starting to get a little nervous on the 463 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: old throne of sleep. Wait, listen, what's going on? Doesn't 464 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: sound good. Uh, I'm concerned about the Patriots team in general, 465 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: does not in particular Jets. If anything, this game, Wow, 466 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: that really does sound scary. This game caused me to 467 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: look in the mirror and start to wonder if what 468 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: Dan has been saying it's true that I'm not and 469 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: Mike Taylor has been saying this on the couch of truth, 470 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: that I'm not a real fan because I didn't really 471 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: have any feelings the first three or fourth quarters. All 472 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: I could think of that it's not really that big 473 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: a bigger game, which I know that I'm losing touch 474 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: with the feeling of the fan, and you're the kid 475 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: up on his hill. And finally he starts to realize 476 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: that that's what you call a coping mechanism, which Greg 477 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: I told you that during the game. Can I make 478 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: two points here? Sure, the Jets are one week removed 479 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: from being lucky to beat killing Moore, Let's calm down. 480 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: Second point. The Patriots have a chance to be thirteen 481 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: and three in a year in which Tom Brady is 482 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: the only player on offense to start every game at 483 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: the same same position, if they get Edelman and Amandola 484 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: back and Chung and McCarty. I mean they let they 485 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: They're two starting safeties are out. Both of it played 486 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: really well this year and the Jets got behind their 487 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: defense so many times. They could have had a much 488 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: bigger lead if Fitzpatrick had missed a lot of deep 489 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: Oh no, you Pats fans getting a mouthy on to 490 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: me on Twitter about Malcolm Butler. A nice player and 491 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: he had a pretty good game. But Rievas was the 492 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: one that had the interception and didn't get beat at 493 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: all in this game. It was Malcolm Butler who got 494 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: beaten overtime in the game and they touchdown, so pipe down. Also, 495 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: I had the penalty on the third down to keep 496 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: that drive alive and over there. If the Jets were 497 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: to win, you know, three or four super Bowls are 498 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: for the next six years. Dan will be an absolute 499 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: pleasure to deal with. That's what that's about. His uh 500 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: possible is happening? Is like the Cleveland running off like 501 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: back to back ten one seasons. Just now, how I started, 502 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: want the Jets would have to get in what as 503 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: the six We would want them to be the sixth seed, 504 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: and then they win the first game and the Patriots 505 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: still have to win the number one seed. They have 506 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: not clinched it. They have to either win next week 507 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: or have the Bengals UH lose on Monday night. Jets 508 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: still have to beat the Bills. They do, and that 509 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: will not be an easy game. Rex will have will 510 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: be pumped up about it. But we have plenty of 511 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: time to talk about that Bill's team is unified. Let 512 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: us move on UH to Yes. So the Jets needed 513 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs or the Steelers to lose on Sunday to 514 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: have control their destiny. And guess what. Guess what happened. 515 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers cruising toward another playoff berth, but they 516 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: forgot about one thing. Ryan Mallett is a thing that exists. 517 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: The chronically tardy quarterback was on time all day against 518 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's the throwing it's for two and seventy four yards, 519 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: a career high and a touchdown in a twenty to 520 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: seventeen Ravens win. Yowser, Greg. We've talked plenty in recent 521 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: weeks about how dangerous the Steelers could be in the postseason. 522 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: Now there's a very very real chance they want to 523 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: be there. No, you're gonna need the Buffalo Bills to 524 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: pull off the upset or else. The Pittsburgh Steelers are done. 525 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: And it just reminds me that not only that anything 526 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: can happen, but that you can never underestimate a division 527 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: rivalry like this. The Ravens fans tonight must feel like 528 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: like Auburn at the end of a year, or Michigan. 529 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: If Auburn beats Alabama, that saves the whole season. If 530 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: Michigan beats Ohio State, that saves the whole season. They 531 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: they swept the Steelers, they beat up with Ryan Mallon 532 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of bombs on their defense. It's insane. That's 533 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: a that's a strike against college football. That like, just 534 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: winning a rival game, rivalry game, makes your season fine, 535 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: Ravens fans can't be happy. They're five and this had 536 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: to be very satisfying. Oh and you know what I 537 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: could win me a sandwich? I forgot I had the 538 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: only one team may sit out of the a f 539 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: C North oh A Patriots fan continues to eat. Well, wow, 540 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: that is yeah. The Steelers lose this game. That is 541 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: they have owing themselves to blame if they don't make 542 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: the playoffs. And this isn't the first time in the 543 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: last few years in which that's the case. They lost 544 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: the Dolphins a couple of years ago. Come on, steeling. 545 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: Let's let's not forget that they played two awful quarters 546 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: last week at home against Denver. So that's six out 547 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: of eight quarters in less two weeks, which is crunch 548 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: time for a playoff tested team with the Super Bowl 549 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: winning quarterback. There's trouble in Pittsburgh. Well, that was against 550 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: one of the best defense in the league, so you 551 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: can understand having a bad quarter there. Their defense is 552 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers defense rather has been up and down all year. Roethlisberger, though, 553 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: I think you make a great point because he threw 554 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: two very loose interceptions, including the one with under five 555 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: minutes to go last week was catastrophic. Is defense just 556 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: saved him. And then this week his interceptions were pretty 557 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: bad and it's to the Ravens, and it just showed 558 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: some mental I don't know. And we talked about the 559 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: fact on Thursday the John harbaught it's not a good team, 560 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: but he has coached well and his players continue to 561 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: care and play very hard for him. It doesn't show 562 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: up because they're they're missing so many players. But this 563 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: game still is a supreme shock to me, because Pittsburgh 564 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: was the team that a week ago I thought in 565 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: the a f C, if they got hot, could run 566 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: the table and knock out any one of those teams 567 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: in the n f C. Right now now they're probably 568 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: not even gonna make the playoffs. Ridiculous there is. They're 569 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: still good get in. It wouldn't be the biggest shock. 570 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: But if you had said in week two, let's say 571 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: that a team led by Ryan Mallett, Terrence West, and 572 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: Chris Gibbons and Chris Matthews, we're all on the same team, 573 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 1: and that that team beat the Steelers to knock them 574 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs, you would have no idea what 575 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: that team was. None of them were even on this team, 576 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: the Portland River Hugs. None of these guys are even 577 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: on these teams, and they're playing huge roles for the 578 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: raven And maybe maybe that's the difference. And when the 579 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: steel when we look back at the Steelers do miss 580 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: the playoffs, we're just talking about the Jets and how 581 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: we shouldn't get too excited because the Cowboys game that 582 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: they barely won. The Jets found a way to win 583 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: a game where they played like crap against a bad 584 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: team the Steelers couldn't do it. You gotta find a 585 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: way to win a game when you're not playing it 586 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: your best, if you're a real team with real gumption. 587 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: They just didn't do it. They gave up three eight 588 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: six yards. They like the Falcons game. I don't think 589 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: this was a unfair result that they got out gained 590 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: by eighty yards. And this just shows when you look 591 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: ahead at the schedule and try to forecast what's gonna happen, 592 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: you never know. Because the Steelers, you thought they're gonna 593 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: play the Bengals and Broncos. If they can split that, 594 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: they'll have a chance. If they sweep those, they're in. 595 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: They swept them, and then they get they stubbed their 596 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: toe here, all right? So we move on to the 597 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: third team in the big triangle. UH, for those last 598 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: two wild card spots they are this is the Kansas 599 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Now the NFL scheduled get gods, they've smiled 600 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: they've smiled upon the Chiefs in recent weeks. Let's face it, UH, 601 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: with a lot of winnable games, Andy Reid's team keeps 602 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: taking care of business. And that's what happened today against Cleveland. 603 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: Alex Smith had just a hundred twenty five yards passing, 604 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: but he did throw two touchdowns and that's enough to 605 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: lift the Chiefs to a seventeen win over Mars Brown's 606 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: Mr Cessler. The Chiefs of one nine straight. They're going 607 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. They locked up a spot. Uh with 608 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: the victory. Are we buying in though? I do, because 609 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: you just gave the Jets credit that they deserve for 610 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: winning an ugly game two weeks ago, and that's what 611 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs did today. It was not easy. It looked 612 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: at one point the Chiefs came out first drive, chewed 613 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: up eight minutes of the clock and looked absolutely proficient 614 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: running the ball at will against Cleveland's awful defense, Alex 615 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: Smith making plays, and it looked like this was gonna 616 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: be set up to be a nice forty to ten 617 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: type game. Cleveland kept hanging around, their defense finally started 618 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: to they their defense has been absolutely one of the 619 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: worst in the league, if not the worst in the league, 620 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: probably played their best game today by simply just not 621 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: allowing points to be scored. It was not perfect, but 622 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: half second half what happened was because Auntie Manzel, who 623 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: I think has a long way to go, as a passer. 624 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: They finally just said let it go, run, run like 625 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: a madman, and he had the most yards of any 626 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: Browns quarterback in Cleveland's history over under in eight yards. 627 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: The team, for the second time in three weeks ran 628 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: for well over two hundred yards. I don't know what's 629 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: going on with that. But their best defense in the 630 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: second half was their offense. Manzel at a twelve plut 631 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: plus minute drive that just kept Alex Smith off the field, 632 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: and they got enough stops that this thing got right 633 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: down to the end. And it was a game where 634 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: I was watching, honestly more for your Jets, to be honest, 635 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: because had they taken care of business, that also would 636 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 1: have catapulted would have been great for New York and 637 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: the Browns and Manzell get all the way down inside 638 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: the Kansas City territory with inside a minute to go. 639 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Bad clock management by Mike Patton and the Browns. They 640 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: called their last minute outside of the last time out, 641 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: outside of the two minute warning for a meaningless reason 642 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: to stop the game, which was a death knell, but 643 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: they ran out of time. Manzel completed a pass over 644 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: the middle and there was about eight seconds to oh 645 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: and they had a run twenty yards up and they 646 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: couldn't get it done, and so much for I predicted 647 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: that this would be Manzel, a little bit of a 648 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: shootout or something, and Manzel would give the Browns something 649 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: to think about. A complete his passes, I guess not 650 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: in that last play. Yeah, he's gotta be that's gotta throw. 651 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: That's gotta go either in the ends or or to 652 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: the siline. He puts it in the middle of field. 653 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: Didn't give me a chance. No, it wasn't. He again, 654 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: as I think that you know, Kansas City's defensive secondary 655 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: probably confused him as much as any team that I've 656 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: seen this season. He just seemed out of sorts through 657 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: the air the entire time, and he has no weapons. 658 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: Do you think, uh, Peter's knocked up or wrapped up 659 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: defensive rookie? I think he. I think he has to. 660 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: He mean, he tied a franchise record for rookies with 661 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: his eighth pick, and that was a huge interception in 662 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: the NFL and interception return yardage and passes defense to 663 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: man touchdowns, helf picks. I mean he's I don't. I mean, 664 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: he's got to be leading the conversation because it hasn't 665 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: come at smaller minor times for them either. He's what 666 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: He's helped them win big games. Can we touch on 667 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: real quick the Mike Petton head scratcher of the week 668 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: sending Dwayne Bow out to midfield as a team captain. Yeah, 669 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: it's I mean can't. Who does it help? Who's that for? 670 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: Send Dwayne Bow good enough to play, but he's good 671 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: enough to be a I don't think it says a 672 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: great thing to the rest of your roster. I'd say 673 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: that there are a lot of people that have contributed 674 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: heavily and you put Dwayne Bow out there. Now, it's 675 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: not all on Dwayne Bow in the sense that he 676 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: didn't get to play for months and months, but it 677 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: is a head scratch it is, you know, it's essentially 678 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: a pregame festivity where you're trotting out one of the 679 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: worst free agent signings in NFL history. Oh, but he 680 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: used to play on the Chiefs, so let's make sure 681 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: we send him out there. Enough of that stuff, Mark, Oh, 682 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: go ahead? Did tom Ba Lee played at it? I 683 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: didn't notice him. I didn't notice him. Might have to 684 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: watch closer, um, Mark. So the Chiefs are in they 685 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: become the first team that we forked UH in our 686 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: stick a fork in Him series to qualify for the playoffs, 687 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: which means will be the last UH, which means that 688 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: we do owe a charitable donation to the Kansas City region. 689 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: And you have been put in charge of this. Where 690 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: are we at right now in terms of what we're 691 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: working on? Well, and as you mentioned, we were gonna 692 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: be you know, we're gonna be owing a number of 693 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: cities some money. So I could only get into the 694 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: Kansas City operation tonight. I just wanted to get you know, 695 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: let's get a feel of what Kansas City is about. 696 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: Look up a couple of charities. You know what, how 697 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: can we really help the civic structure in Missouri, in 698 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: the middle of Missouri. And so let's start number one 699 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: with the Astronomical Society of Kansas City. Well, they they're 700 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: into astronomy, into the stars. They could use our help. 701 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well we're not. This is not a time 702 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: for us to really debate whether we want to do it. 703 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm just putting some names out there. We can discuss later. 704 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: We we put you in charge of this, sure, and 705 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure you understand what what what charity means 706 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: that we're actually, look, we're trying to help some type 707 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: of organization that probably helps people in the region. Uh, 708 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: you know charity, all right, well this one? How about 709 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: this one? Then? Uh? The Women Who Dare book group. 710 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: This is a real ornization. It's it's um works of 711 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: fiction and nonfiction buying about ordinary women experience extraordinary challenges 712 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: in Missouri. That's a hard note. You got anything else, 713 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: like anything like the Red Cross or Boys and Girls, 714 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: the Casey Area Dungeons and Dragons meet up group. No, 715 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: I think West might have to take over this. What's 716 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: this last one? Here? The Cuddle Party Society of the 717 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: Greater Kansas City metro Area. That sounds potentially cuddle part graphic. 718 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I'm just doing a 719 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: I did a loose kind of look what you're not 720 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: So this didn't go that's a bit. I mean, that's 721 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: so far so not good. Well, we'll work on this though, 722 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: We'll work with this together. We appreciate you putting the 723 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: time in on a football Sunday to start looking up 724 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: some things. But I think Missouri should have a higher 725 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: bar for what constitutes a charity. Speaking of it could 726 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: be my fault. But speaking of teams that uh we 727 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: forked that are going to come back to bite us 728 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: in the old heine, let's talk about the Washington Redskins, 729 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: because you know what, somebody I had to win the 730 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: NFC East, So what are the Redskins decided? Why not us? 731 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, uh, you like that? You like that? Cute? 732 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: Like it the trademark thing not as cute, but why 733 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: not us is an app uh quote for me because 734 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: what they did, they took care of business in this division. 735 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: It was a bad division and what the Redskins did 736 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: and I will admit it. You know, I never thought 737 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: Jake Ruden would be on the podium, uh talking about 738 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: how his team won the division wearing the hat. I mean, 739 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: this is a team again. Uh. May I remind everyone 740 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: that we said was the worst team in football in 741 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: our preseason poll Power Poll. Now they are the NFC 742 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: East champions after a thirt win over the Eagles in Philly, 743 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: Washington's first division title since two thousand and twelve. Kirk 744 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: Cousins throws four touchdowns in this game. Gonna get paid 745 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: a ton of dough in the off season as a 746 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: free agent, Chris Westling It would be nice if our 747 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: producer had, like all the doubts that you guys were 748 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: spewing about the Redskins. Would be nice if we had 749 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: something we could queue up right here. Well, wait, do 750 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: you I think we might? Let's talk in January when 751 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: up beaming Jay Gruden. It's giving to say a Mark 752 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: will be named Queen of England before Jay Gruden's beaming 753 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: about a division title? Can you say that? It? Wow? 754 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: You guys get off easy? Why because Handsome Hank, when 755 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: we talked about fork in the Redskins says he'll never 756 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: use a fork again the rest of his life. If 757 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: the Redskins get into the playoffs. Hank, this is your future. 758 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: We got a tight shot on that sport. I mean that. 759 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: And if we do you ever and if we ever 760 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: see Handsome Hank who if you you guys should listen 761 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: to him on the Dave Damna Chek Football Program. If 762 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: we ever see him eating with a fork in our 763 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: presence ever again. His word has no meaning. I'm not 764 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 1: listening to anything, says you know. It's just basically saying 765 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: you can say something and it never comes true. We 766 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 1: were wrong about the Redskins, and we were wrong about 767 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: the rest of the NFC East. Doesn't mean this is 768 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: a great team, but they're a good team. Over the 769 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 1: last five weeks, they've won four or five games. They've 770 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: been consistent on offense, they have an identity. They have 771 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 1: no running game, and so they just hand the ball. 772 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: The Kirk Cousins here throw the ball thirty nine times 773 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: while we run it whatever it was, thirty nine times. 774 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: And they barely ran it early in the game. And 775 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: he was hitting third and longs, which he hadn't been 776 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: doing earlier in the season. And this Eagles defense as 777 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: a mess, but who cares. They took advantage that they 778 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: did exactly what they needed to do on Saturday night. 779 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, listen that this win on Saturday night was 780 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: their eighth win there, eight and seven, and they lock 781 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: up the division just before weeks seventeen. It tells you 782 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: what happened in the NFC East this year. But at 783 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: the same time, what they proved in the last month 784 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: or so or six weeks or so was that they 785 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: were better than the bad teams I thought, and I 786 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: think a lot of people thought that they were one 787 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: of the bad teams. They are step above that. Now. 788 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that means West a deep January run. 789 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: I guess you know, nothing would surprise me, but I would. 790 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: I'll say that there at least a team that come January, 791 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: they're they're worthy playoff team because they're playing very well. 792 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: Right well, I don't know about that. They haven't beaten 793 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: a winning team all year. They faced the hate that 794 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: argument though they faced the fewest They have the easiest 795 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: schedule in the league, they faced the fewest amount of 796 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: winning teams. That's all a factor. They deserve to make it. 797 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: But we kill the Falcons. They're eight and seven. We 798 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: think they're a huge disappointment. The Redskins are and they're fortunate, 799 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: but they made their fortune and Kirk Cousins especially. Yeah, 800 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: I my problem, well, I don't have a problem with 801 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: the Redskins is of the teams in this division, they're 802 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 1: the most fun to watch right now. The Falcons started 803 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: out hot, but they had I don't care about the 804 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: records now because the Falcons are an abysmal watch at 805 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: the time, at this moment, outside of today, I don't 806 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: want to see Atlanta squeaking in the playoffs. The Redskins, 807 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: the way Kirk Cousins is playing, they're interesting to me. 808 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: I have no problem. I have no problem watching them 809 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: in January. Nobody in this podcast they said at any 810 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: point in the season that the Redskins are a good team, 811 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 1: just that they were the best of a bad bunch 812 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: in the NFC East, or that the rest of the 813 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: division was bad enough that you can't doubt the Redskins 814 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: and Cousins corner over here, we get to be a 815 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: little bit of proud. He's got as many touchdowns combined 816 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: passing and rushing is Aaron Rodgers this year, thirty one touchdowns, 817 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: leading the NFL and completion percentage. He's gonna earn that money. 818 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: And he's got the mojo. I mean, they had The 819 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: Eagles had two spots in that game where they had 820 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: interceptions right in their hands. They're running with it and 821 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: then they dropped the ball and then Cousins hits him 822 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: with a touchdown right afterwards. They had five three and 823 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: ounce in the first half, and they're winning huge at 824 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: half time. When when they start moving the ball, it's 825 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: like they score touchdowns. And this Eagles team is a joke. 826 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: It's a massive It ended the league one of the 827 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: worst teams in the league. They were very lucky. I 828 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: think to get two six wins, which is amazing to think. Question, 829 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: do you think that Kelly is back next season? I do, yes, 830 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: I think Bradford's back to But man, those moves just 831 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: one by one. It was like a parade of Chip 832 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: Kelly's ghost of free agency passed on the day after Christmas. 833 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: You know, de Marco Murray nearly fumbles the ball three 834 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: straight plays. Kiko Alonso is not in the same area 835 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: code of the Redskins when he's in coverage, which has 836 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: happened for a month. Sam Bradford people trying to talk 837 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: about playing well, it's like he just doesn't get in 838 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: the way and he's not helping enough. All the color 839 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: analysts of society stopped making excuses for Sam Bradford. I mean, 840 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: he misses throws every week. That passed as Zach hurts 841 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: down the side, and you know, I think it was 842 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: Trent Green that said, oh well, there was pressure in 843 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: his face. That's a lay up, guys, that is you know, 844 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: that's a shock going down the lane without anybody in 845 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: front of him and slamming it down. You gotta make 846 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: those throws if you're gonna be a big time quarterback. 847 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what the Eagles are gonna do a quarterback, 848 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: but I don't think Bradford's the answer. I think they're 849 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: gonna resign Bradford. I mean that is that is that 850 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: you said? That's the depressing thought to me. Mark is 851 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: Kelly Maybe and West you're a bigger Chip Kelly fan 852 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: than the rest of this room. Maybe Kelly, when he 853 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: gets comfortable enough and gets better personnel moves, he will 854 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: develop into a big time coach. But there's no ways 855 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: said Bradford's developing into a big time quarterback. So why 856 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: team is boring? They're very born and I think the 857 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: Redskins before we get out of this, more than anything, 858 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 1: it's coaching. I think they've done an excellent job coaching 859 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: this year. Maximized the talent that they have and that 860 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: Jake Gruden, especially as a combination in Sean McVeigh, their 861 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator with Kirk Cousins. Taking what they have and 862 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: maximizing as much as they can. They've done a great job. Well. 863 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: The biggest decision they made all year was in August 864 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: when they decided to sit their franchise quarterback and face 865 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: a lot of heat for join. So Mike Shanahan did 866 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: the same thing, but he did it too late, with 867 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: only four games left or three games left of his tenure. 868 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: Jake Gruden did it here at the beginning of the season. Now, 869 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: Mike and Kyle Shanahan both said separately this offseason that 870 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins will be proven to be a really good 871 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback if he gets a shop. He's one for two. 872 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: He said the same about John Beck, but well, you know, 873 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: he got this one right, staked his reputation on Beck 874 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: and Grossman. I think, yeah, I think he actually said 875 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: I will stake my reputation on John Beck. I mean 876 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: one last thing you have to think about, where would 877 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: this team be potentially had they said, you know what, 878 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: we'll get a guy like Kirk Cousins later in the 879 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: draft and keep our number one pick to do something 880 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: else with a and all the other picks we traded 881 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: to get r G three, could be a completely different team. 882 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: They took two quarterbacks in that draft. By the end 883 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: of those two quarterbacks rookie contracts, they both have won 884 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: division titles for the Redskins, but ultimately the Redskins, you know, 885 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: they're still just kind of a MIDDI team. But it's 886 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: just it's just a weird we gotta start somewhere. I mean, 887 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: they're building a team too, and they're only in the 888 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 1: second year of Gruden and they've got a good GM. 889 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: So I like what I like what's happened. It' funny 890 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: because Shanahan saved all these people who hate his guts 891 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,760 Speaker 1: and and they fired him, but he took two quarterbacks 892 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: in the first four rounds. That was the first time 893 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: since nine that had ever happened. And people killed the 894 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: Redskins because they had a shortage of picks that year 895 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: because of the RG three trade, and that Cousins pick 896 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: is what saved all these guys. Let's move on. The 897 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 1: Houston Texans are closing in on the a f C 898 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: South title. Speaking of bad divisions and Brandon Weedon, I 899 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: kid you not, is a big reason why the former 900 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 1: first round bust ended a personal eleven game losing streak 901 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 1: in a thirty four to six win over the pathetic Titans. 902 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: Geez Titans, Greg. It's hard to gauge any team when 903 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: they're playing the Titans, but the Texans certified frisky. As 904 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: we head down the stretch, I think you have to 905 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: give a ton of credit to the Texans defense for 906 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: just coming out and setting the tone. Both teams only 907 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: had fifty six yards through the first I think seventeen 908 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: minutes of play, but the score was ten to nothing 909 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: because the Texans not only got three and ounce right away, 910 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: they scored by forcing a fumble and returning it, taking 911 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: the pressure off Weed. And then the Titans fumble a punch. 912 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: Suddenly it's ten nothing before Weeden has done anything. And 913 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 1: then they unlocked the key, and you know what comes 914 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: out the guy that the Browns expected Brandon Weeden to be. 915 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: What a glorious time to be alive. Brandon Weed and 916 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: through for two touchdowns and ran for another blowout win 917 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: that essentially clinched the playoff spot that you would have 918 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: never guess that would have happened this season, much less 919 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: for the Texans. It's insane. I don't know what to 920 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: tell you. I don't mean it's great, but what a moment. 921 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: Are you happy? That's actually a real question. Are you 922 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: happy for Weeding or is it just annoy you that 923 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: he's becoming, potentially again wheels on a decent player after Cleveland. 924 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: I certainly feel good for Brandon Whedon because I feel 925 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 1: like he was just one of many quarterbacks that went 926 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: through the system in Cleveland where he's you know, chewed up, 927 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: has three different offensive coordinators. He spit out and to 928 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: succeed somewhere Elseide, I'm on a problem with that. Someone 929 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: can you know what, someone makes something out of him? 930 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: Good for them, Browns can't do that. This matchup was 931 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: one quarterback who hadn't one in his last eleven starts 932 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: versus another quarterback who has never won an NFL game 933 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: has now lost nine. That Mettenberger not good. I think 934 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: it's really Brandon Weed went over a thousand days without 935 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: a win. I think I saw another J. J. Watt 936 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: mocking selfie of Mettenburger, and I listen. I don't know 937 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: a lot of you guys might have noticed. I getting 938 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: really angry about the tight two tunes because they are 939 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: just rooting, uh, certain elements of our Sunday every week 940 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: by not even being competitive. They're just getting the doors 941 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,959 Speaker 1: blown up. I say, kick him out of football until 942 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: they can learn how to compact themselves with some level 943 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: of self respect. I think that's a fair point, because 944 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: on a day where a lot of eliminated teams showed 945 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: up to play and pulled off upsets that Titans didn't 946 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: even show up. Right, You would have thought that the 947 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: team facing Brandon Weeden would have been competitive, but they weren't, 948 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: and one of the reasons was DeAndre Hopkins. If they're there, 949 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: you need any proof why. DeAndre Hopkins is one of 950 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: the top three or four receivers in the league, if 951 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 1: not higher. He's putting up big time numbers no matter 952 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: who they throw out there. So I don't want to 953 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: hear sometimes when you hear the quarterback, well, he doesn't 954 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 1: have a quarterback. Hopkins did it with with Ryan I 955 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: mean with Brandon Weeden, and they didn't even throw the 956 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,760 Speaker 1: ball that much. He had seven for a D seventeen. 957 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think Mike Mularkey gets even 958 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: like a cursory interview during the process to funding a 959 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 1: new coach tight ends coach or do you think they're like, well, Mike, 960 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: I think you know you know pretty well as head coach. Yes, 961 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 1: because I think they do that all the time. Do 962 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: you think maybe this will be the case or like Mike, 963 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's making a case to not have that interview. 964 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: Banged up late in the game, up healthy been playing 965 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: well and they had him in there in a blowout. 966 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: I guess you gotta play. I mean that matters because 967 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: if they there's a playoff team it is. So the 968 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,399 Speaker 1: Colts now clinging to life after that, and we'll talk 969 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: about what their situation is in a couple of seconds, 970 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: but first let's talk about the game. The Indianapolis Colts 971 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: stay alive in eighteen twelve win over the Miami Dolphins. 972 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: Uh Matt Hasselbeck and Charlie white Hurst left this game 973 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: with injuries. It is the fourth Hassleback game Hasslebeck time. 974 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: Hasslwick has been knocked out of a game by injury. 975 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: Greg Society wants nothing to do with the Colts taking 976 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: up a playoff spot. I am now going to turn 977 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: it over to you because you are very good at this. 978 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: You are are Svengali when it comes to tiebreakers and 979 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: other permutations and computations. What is going on in the 980 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 1: playoff picture with the cults. This is the most complicated 981 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: scenario I think I've ever seen. And I was excited 982 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: to you is I'm not because I can't even do 983 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: it off the top of my head. They need All 984 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,280 Speaker 1: I need to tell you is they need ten different 985 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: results to happen exactly starting on Monday night ten ten 986 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: one of ten, So are they all football related? One 987 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 1: of them involves the Broncos Bengals game. Correct, that's true. 988 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: They need the Broncos to win that game just to 989 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: kick it off, and then they need nine things to 990 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 1: happen next week. So it's all it's all but over. 991 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: It's a wild computer that you're operating. That's his brain. 992 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: It has to do with the strength of victory. You know, 993 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: you guys know what strength of victories. It's the team's use. 994 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: What's their strength, you know, what's their overall records? So 995 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: that changes in many ways. There are NFC games that 996 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: matter too, Yeah, all sorts of things. And to answer 997 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 1: your questen, yes, just football. I know you mentioned before 998 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 1: the show. Maybe it had to do with something about 999 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: peace in the Middle East that isn't well, no, no calming. 1000 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 1: The Gaza strip required for the cults to get into 1001 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: this point, but that's not gonna happen. Um, by the 1002 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: political on you let's talk. Just sent me for a 1003 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: little bit of a loop. Greg, you're ready, okay, First 1004 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: thing with this concussion thing, this movie, this Will Smith movie. Um, 1005 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: did you check. Did you check the box office at all? Yes? 1006 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: I did, But I don't think we had a sandwich 1007 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: on this No. Well, I don't think we're going to. 1008 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: I was hoping that you hadn't checked the box office 1009 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: and then you and I would see who got closest. 1010 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: Greg wy did you check the box office for this movie? 1011 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: It's what he does. I just do it. I checked 1012 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: Friday night for the dailies. I don't know why, or 1013 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: Saturday morning for the I'm gonna have deep seated issues. 1014 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: I just follow this stuff. I always have. I will 1015 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: take a shot at Friday night domestic. Well, no, I 1016 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 1: know the week, the whole week, you know the whole weekend. 1017 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 1: It opened up on Christmas Day. That's right, Friday, all right. 1018 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: I am going to say it made eight millions. You 1019 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: are under it made eleven millions. That's still very disappointing 1020 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 1: in a in a poor result. Everybody rock is like 1021 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: good Times come out. I think that's less than Draft 1022 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: Day made. Wow. To put it in perspective, well, it's 1023 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,399 Speaker 1: not a heartwarming tale like Draft Day was. Christmas would 1024 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: be the ideal time for this release, and it didn't 1025 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: get particularly good reviews. That the only chance it ever had, 1026 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: and even with good reviews, I don't think it would 1027 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 1: have mattered. Was that everyone said this was some great 1028 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: movie and it didn't get good reviews. Well, there you go. 1029 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: That there's our concussion talk listen. Maybe we would have 1030 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: spun it better if they would have paid us some 1031 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: advertising through you know, grease, the old palms of the 1032 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: A T N Group. Do you want to know all 1033 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: ten things that need to happen for the Colet's here 1034 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: real quick, all right? Denver needs Denver needs to win 1035 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: in week sixteen. Buffalo needs to beat the Jets. That's 1036 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: not happening. Miami needs to beat the Patriots. Atlanta needs 1037 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 1: to beat the Saints. The Ravens need to beat the Bengals. 1038 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: The Steelers need to beat the Browns. The Jaguars need 1039 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,879 Speaker 1: to beat the Texans. The Colts need to take care 1040 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: of him to beat the Titans, The Raiders need to 1041 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: upset the Chiefs, and the Broncos need to beat the Chargers. 1042 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: If all of those things happen, Matt Hasselbeck and the 1043 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: Cults are going to the playoffs. What's more likely that 1044 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: happens or markets struck by lightning as he leaves the office, today, 1045 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: I think markets struck by lightning. Yeah, that's possible. I 1046 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: think there's a decent chance. Mark already has been Listen, 1047 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 1: tell the truth, Tell the truth. Let's move on. In 1048 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: what could be? I I stress could be Drew Brees' 1049 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: final home game at the super Dome. The veteran quarterback 1050 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 1: through for four dred and twelve yards and three touchdowns. 1051 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: That's on a bum foot, by the way, guys, in 1052 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 1: an easy win over the Jacksonville Jaguars, who, again, despite 1053 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: us picking the Jags across the board, continue to let 1054 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: us down week after week. I think West and I 1055 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: are in the same boat that we changed our picks. 1056 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: Uh base. We wanted to change our picks and forgot 1057 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: human error doesn't help you out in the past. I 1058 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: thought Drew Brees was gonna miss the game when I 1059 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: picked the Jaguars. He's got a torn plat, so you 1060 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: would think he would. However, here we go. Here's the question, guys, 1061 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: one quick question about this game, so we don't want 1062 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: to get too caught up here. Blake Bortles now has 1063 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: thirty five touchdowns, but it went back, look back at 1064 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: the tape. How many of these scoring throwers this season? 1065 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: How many have come in meaningful situations. Is he at 1066 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: garbage time quarterback this season? I believe I saw a 1067 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: stat that he has twenty nine touchdowns this year when 1068 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: the Jags are playing from behind, which is five more 1069 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,439 Speaker 1: than any quarterback has ever had in a season. That's 1070 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: a little bit truck I mean, you don't want to 1071 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,399 Speaker 1: take anything away with them. Thirty five touchdowns in year 1072 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: two for a quarterback. That's promising no matter how you 1073 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: spend it, but maybe a little bit misleading. He's still 1074 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 1: learning how play the position. Yeah, he's also not to 1075 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: be at fault for what that defense has not done 1076 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 1: all season. I mean, he's they're playing from behind eight 1077 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 1: minutes into most every game all year. I I think 1078 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: it's a big step up for Blake Bortles, and there's 1079 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: a lot of reason to look at that offense and 1080 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 1: say it's forming into something very interesting. But you can't 1081 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: you cannot win Get. The Saint sort a great example 1082 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: of why you can't win games for Getting with thirty 1083 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: five points. I mean every Sunday, that's the thing. Everyone says, 1084 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: this team is going in the right direction, the defense 1085 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: going in the wrong direction. They've had three years with 1086 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 1: the same staff and the same GM and building the 1087 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: same players, and they're one of the worst defenses in 1088 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: the league. And they're gonna keep their jobs because Blake 1089 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: Bortles has developed. That's what they like him. This he's 1090 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: in the middle of developing. Yeah, and this is it. 1091 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 1: I think this is it for Peyton and Breezes as 1092 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: a COMBA. We'll see. Yes, we went plenty of time 1093 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: to talk about that. Let's move on though, and talking 1094 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 1: about Matthew Stafford, who continued his strong second half finish. 1095 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: He through for three one yards two touchdowns the lines 1096 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 1: a thirty two seventeen win over the forty nine is 1097 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: who despite having four wins, and we talked about this 1098 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: uh um on the previous show. I think Greg you 1099 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: said that they might be one of the worst teams 1100 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,879 Speaker 1: in football even if they don't have the fewest wins. Mark, 1101 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: can you tell me one thing that you found interesting 1102 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: about this game between two mortally flawed also rans. So 1103 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 1: I don't think we need to go too far off 1104 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: script here. I mean Matthew Stafford another game where he 1105 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: showed consistency and if you want to take one thing away, 1106 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: people say, oh, can Jim Caldwell save his job. He's 1107 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: not even the best Jim on this staff. We've said 1108 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: it week after week. Jim Bob Cooter is done an 1109 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 1: excellent job. I know we don't know week behind the scenes, 1110 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: what's happening, what what's so different with him? Got you know, 1111 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 1: teaching Stafford. But Stafford looked solid again today. Is this 1112 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: another segment of Couter Talk Greatest? We're heading there. We 1113 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: need some Cooter Talk theme music. We need to come 1114 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: up out there. It's Cooter time. I don't know what 1115 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna sound like. Mark No, I mean it's you know, 1116 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: you did make the point in the previous show that 1117 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: we shouldn't get too excited about Matthew stafford second half 1118 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 1: because the entire secon and half has been garbage time. 1119 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 1: That's true. But Matthew Stafford, if you look at every 1120 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: other season stuff, some of the stuff that's happened him 1121 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,359 Speaker 1: in December has been so wacky, and it's just he's 1122 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: such been such a frustrating quarterback. I don't feel that 1123 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 1: way about him this season. I don't feel that he's 1124 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: frustrating to watch. He's Jake Cutler. I mean, he has 1125 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: great halfs of the season and terrible halfs and he's 1126 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 1: one of the worst players in the league the first 1127 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: half of the season. They did, they did confirm by 1128 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,720 Speaker 1: the way that they're going to hire a general manager 1129 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: that will decide called Well's fate so on on Black Monday. 1130 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 1: That is one team we don't really need to be watching. 1131 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: He's going to hang in the wind there for a 1132 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: little while as they hire. That's not a good. That's 1133 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: not good. When you bring in another gym, that might 1134 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 1: not be the only thing hanging in the wind. To me, 1135 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: the most interesting thing about this team are they going 1136 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: to ask Calvin Johnson to take a pay cut? And 1137 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 1: what happens when they do that. That is a big 1138 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: offsea good tease, Yes, very good. He's had too many 1139 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: games where he was almost invisible to be the highest 1140 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: paid wide receiver. Something's gonna buy a lot. Yeah, all right, 1141 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,359 Speaker 1: let's move on. So much for the Kelen Moore bandwagon, 1142 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: the lefty flingers. It's a little inside football terminology. UH 1143 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: played without Dez Bryant and he was unable to guide 1144 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to to the end zone even once a 1145 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,240 Speaker 1: sixty and six loss to the Buffalo Bills in Orchard Park. 1146 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: Greg got a question for you, I don't I don't 1147 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 1: know if I'm gonna have any answer. That's a good question, though, 1148 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: it's a really good question. Who would be more likely 1149 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,280 Speaker 1: to get stunning Lee sacked. That's British parlance for fired. 1150 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett or Rex Ryan. Oh, Rex Ryan, I think 1151 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: would be much more likely, much much more likely. So 1152 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,880 Speaker 1: it would be Jason Garrett would be more stunning, right right. 1153 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: I I don't think either one is likely at all, 1154 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: but I would be incredibly stunned if Jason Garrett got fired. 1155 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: Even if Sean Payton's flow being tied in a game 1156 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 1: with Kellen Moore and without Dez Bryant at halftime, that's 1157 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 1: a credit to Jason Garrett. I mean, this, this thing 1158 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: should have been a blob. But the Bills are what 1159 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 1: they are at this point. Bryce Butler was there number 1160 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 1: one receiver today. I mean, Jerry Jones has within the 1161 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: last week talked glowingly about Garrett. I think that there's 1162 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,720 Speaker 1: just so much investment in Jason Garrett. With Rex Ryan, 1163 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 1: neither are likely at all. But Rex Ryan has to 1164 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 1: be the coach that talked the most in the offseason 1165 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: and failed to deliver to the highest degree. Shocking, right, 1166 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean not, You're right. I think it goes to scripts. 1167 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: It goes to scripts. To be clear, I think Rex 1168 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 1: Ryan is wildly safe. It would be, it would be. 1169 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 1: That's always as good as wildly patient. I mean, why 1170 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 1: why would get fired? Neither one's getting fired. But I 1171 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: think you should feel good as a Jets fan. I 1172 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: don't think this Bill's team is is frisky right now. 1173 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: You got Mike gillisly starting and running back. Listen. I 1174 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 1: get that, and the team, the defense seems to hate 1175 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 1: their head coach, which never is a good thing typically. 1176 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: But Rex, I would think, and maybe the fact that 1177 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: he's not getting along with his player's works of the Jets, uh, 1178 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, benefit even more because he can potentially pump 1179 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 1: it up, pump up the Bills, win win for the gipper. 1180 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,919 Speaker 1: But I don't think they're gonna win anything for the gift. 1181 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't see that being a real motivator for anyone 1182 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,720 Speaker 1: inside that building because we're just a couple of weeks removed. 1183 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,440 Speaker 1: For the whole thing was about Shawn McCoy going to Philly. 1184 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 1: All this Bills thing is one We'll go do this 1185 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: for one guy in the locker room they all of 1186 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: you to talk to als all week along about the 1187 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: fact that they aren't a team right now. And what's 1188 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan say, go stick one of the Jets because 1189 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 1: of me? Where is this game at next week at Buffalo? 1190 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: It's in Buffalo. I mean, it wouldn't be the crazy 1191 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: that adds a little bit of an ell. And just 1192 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: saw the Ravens beat the Steelers in Baltimore. I'm not 1193 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: trying to pick on the Jets here, but it is 1194 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,040 Speaker 1: just a week ago that they really almost lost to 1195 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. It happens, I would just say, it's not 1196 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 1: gonna be because Rex Ryan gives some speech that suddenly 1197 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: everyone feels motivated. I'll just say before we move on 1198 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: to the next game. You know, everybody got real excited 1199 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 1: when Kellen Moore came in against the Jets and made 1200 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 1: a couple of plays, and there was all this talk, 1201 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 1: oh what took so long? But Matt Castle on the bench, 1202 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: Oh you had this guy this whole time, ready to go. 1203 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, enjoy your one d and sixty five 1204 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: pound lefty quarterback. Ain't doing jack. Not to be mean 1205 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: to Kellen Moore, but that was I was particularly annoyed 1206 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 1: this idea that Castle was hiding some type of hero. 1207 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,919 Speaker 1: Looks like a little boy on the field. It's hard. 1208 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: It's hard to stick up for the way back Castle's 1209 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: played this year. Uh, let's move on, gentlemen. Uh to 1210 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, who uh who took took care of 1211 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: business in Tampa Bay. You know, I have to say 1212 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 1: I did not see a second of this game. Again, 1213 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure whatever happened, but there is a 1214 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 1: result win over the Bucks. Col Deem Carrie caught a 1215 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: touchdown past from j Cutler. Uh, he's a third string 1216 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: running back, guys. He also scored on a one yard run. 1217 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: The Bear snap a three game losing streak and proved 1218 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: to six and nine, and the Buccaneers fall to six 1219 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: and nine. So, you know, a lot of the positive 1220 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: vibes around the around the Bucks melting away now and 1221 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: they look like very much a six and nine team. Greg, 1222 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 1: I think it's almost good that they didn't raise expectations 1223 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: too high. That sounds weird, but they weren't ready. They 1224 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: weren't really an eight and eight playoff contender type of team. 1225 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: So I think people in Tampa they're excited they have 1226 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston it's been a successful year because of that. 1227 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: But let's not get carried away that there's some sort 1228 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 1: of playoff favorite for next season. I've got one thing 1229 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,919 Speaker 1: for you, Dan about this game. Charles Sims goes over 1230 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 1: a thousand yards from scrimmage, which give the Bucks two 1231 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: running backs over a thousand yards from scrimmage. This has 1232 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,439 Speaker 1: been the best duo in the league all season. Backfield duo. 1233 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 1: You know what's been the best duo Maybe the last 1234 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 1: two or three weeks or one of them, or could 1235 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 1: have been too if they were healthy all season. Langford 1236 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 1: and Forte. Nice nice little do it. It won't be 1237 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 1: a duo next year because I think Forte will be 1238 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 1: leaving Chicago. Are you going? Uh? Here we go? Moving 1239 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 1: on what could have been the last NFL game in 1240 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: Oakland the Raiders. This is on Saturday night, guys, the 1241 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: or Thursday night. Yeah, the Raiders came days ago. The 1242 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: Raiders came from behind win over the Chargers. And yes, 1243 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, Chris Westling, this game was built as the 1244 00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Relocation Bowl and Charles Woodson swans long at the black Hole. 1245 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 1: But what did you see about Derek Carr that has 1246 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: you worried about the second year past game did not 1247 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: deliver on any level. Derek Carr's top three receivers had 1248 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: negative ten yards at halftime. He had one first down 1249 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: the entire second half. That was the three yard touchdown 1250 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: to Michael Crabtree after a long fumble return. He took 1251 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 1: a bad sack to end up to end at first half, 1252 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: and then he had a bad intentional grounding penalty at 1253 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 1: the end of the fourth quarter that made this game 1254 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 1: go to overtime. I think Derek Carr's taking a step 1255 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: back over the last three weeks. That doesn't mean he's 1256 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: still not a promising quarterback. He is. He's got all 1257 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 1: the tools, but this Raiders offense has really taken a 1258 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 1: step back. I was gonna say that, you know, we 1259 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 1: spent all the offseason kind of downplaying or or disparaging 1260 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: might be a strong word, but criticizing Derek carrs a 1261 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 1: guy that maybe wasn't as good as his number indicates. 1262 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 1: If he finishes slowly or we're gonna have the same 1263 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 1: questions and doubts about him, or does he put enough 1264 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: on tape where the Raiders should be confident about this 1265 01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: guy going forward? And I think he's done enough. I 1266 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 1: agree that definitely. The last few weeks have been frustrating. 1267 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: This is this we we there's a lot of games 1268 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 1: this year. We're like, this is the game for the 1269 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: die hards if you're watching Monday night football. But that's 1270 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 1: all not true. This is the game if you were 1271 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: still watching this thing on Christmas Eve at twelve thirty 1272 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 1: Eastern time. This thing went four hours long, deep into overtime. 1273 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Poor Wesseley just wait for this cave to end. I 1274 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: was kind of having fun because it was bad football 1275 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: and you just couldn't understand how the Chargers could not 1276 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: win this game. Well, part of it was that I 1277 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: had to rewrite my lead about four or five different times. 1278 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: But that's why it was for the die hards. That's 1279 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 1: it also had the the ridiculous catch role where Ladarius 1280 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 1: Green to me, clearly catches the ball. They over scrutinized replay, 1281 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 1: which they do this year. They've thrown out the whole 1282 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 1: beyond that, beyond the benefit of the doubt or whatever 1283 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 1: the rule is, and if it looks close, they overturn it. 1284 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 1: It's a ridiculous rule, is right. I felt like West 1285 01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: at my house trying to explain it to Emmaica, who's 1286 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: watching this while we're eating. He can't even explain the 1287 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: role to people, I will say, in a testament to 1288 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 1: West's professionalism, dropped to one thousand burger uh in terms 1289 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: of word count his copy. So if you were one 1290 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 1: of those die hards football junkies, you had a lot 1291 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 1: to digest. Well. I had a long time to be 1292 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 1: able to write that stuff because the game kept dragging on. 1293 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: It's a true journalist right here. N They sent Charles 1294 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: wins it out in style though, and probably with with 1295 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: the wind, which got gave him a chance to address 1296 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 1: the crowd of the p A after the game, which 1297 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 1: was a cool moment. They gave him a shot to 1298 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 1: play hero too. They put him in for a gadget 1299 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 1: play in the red zone in uber time and he 1300 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: ends up with a three yard loss on a play 1301 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: in which he was designed I believe to throw the 1302 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 1: ball to Derek Carr in the end, to throw a 1303 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: game winner to Derek. I don't like that they just 1304 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 1: messing around. I don't have any I don't have anything 1305 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: in my heart for that glory boy stuff. Who are 1306 01:02:54,360 --> 01:03:01,240 Speaker 1: you suddenly now that somebody somebody was probably young, very 1307 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 1: very start calling people Glory Boys. Yeah, that would be 1308 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: a good team named Connor if you want to move 1309 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 1: the River Hawgs. If it's not working out after you 1310 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 1: cripple Portland's economy hunter is not listening to this. Moving on, 1311 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: somebody finally found a way to slow down Russell Wilson. 1312 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 1: To Greg's everlasting delight, it was the St. Louis Rams 1313 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 1: who picked up a seventeen upset victory over the playoff 1314 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: bound Seahawks West. Uh. That's now three losses at the 1315 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: clink for the Seahawks this season. How vulnerable are they 1316 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: when Russell Wilson isn't playing out of his mind? Well, 1317 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 1: they're vulnerable because the Rams really showed today what the 1318 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Seahawks problem was. In September, October and early November. Their 1319 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: offensive line got worked over by the Rams defensive line. 1320 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 1: And I know that if you're a car carrying serious 1321 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 1: football analysts, you have to disparage quarterback wins every chance 1322 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 1: you get out, every chance. But Russell Wilson stat where 1323 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 1: the Seahawks had held a lead and every single one 1324 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: of his career starts seventies straight, the longest in NFL history, 1325 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 1: came to an end today and to me is the 1326 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: one of the most incredible stats I've ever heard. What 1327 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,439 Speaker 1: the team stat too, But that doesn't take anything away 1328 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 1: from it. That is the sign of one of the 1329 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,280 Speaker 1: most dominant runs we've ever seen by any team, and 1330 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 1: that's the Seahawks the last four years. I mean, it 1331 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 1: seems looking at your right up to that really what 1332 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 1: fell apart here was they can't run the ball at all. 1333 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Today against this they could not, and that was William 1334 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 1: Hayes had a phenomenal game three sacks, four hits or 1335 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 1: three sacks, four tackles for lost in five hits. A 1336 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 1: Keeym Mayors had a great game, Aaron Donald did his usual, 1337 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, great job up front. But the Seahawks offensive 1338 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 1: line just got owned. And the Rams won a game 1339 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: in which they only had two seven yards. They won 1340 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 1: a game where case keen him at four point he 1341 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,120 Speaker 1: had a hundred and three yards and four point five 1342 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: yards per tempt. Here's my question, like, let's so this. 1343 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 1: We know the Rams were built specifically to win seven 1344 01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: games a year, and and four of them will usually 1345 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: come inside the division. They're very good against divisional teams. 1346 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: And that's been that's been from the Star with Fisher. 1347 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: But can another team look at what happened today and 1348 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 1: use it as some sort of a blueprint in January? 1349 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 1: Does that other team have the Rams defensive line because 1350 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 1: the Rams are not making the playoffs? But well, that 1351 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,960 Speaker 1: playoff team uh not have to face Marshall Lynch, who 1352 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 1: should be back for the playoffs. I mean, this could 1353 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: be a very different Seattle team if Lynch comes back 1354 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,840 Speaker 1: and is even close to beast mode. Because that I mean, 1355 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 1: it seems to me that when I asked to us 1356 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,520 Speaker 1: that question, I have my doubts that if Russell Wilson 1357 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: isn't playing like the greatest quarterback ever, they're vulnerable on 1358 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: offense because they can't run the ball. They made some 1359 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 1: mistakes today. The center had a couple of botched snaps 1360 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 1: that that came back to haunt them. They had a 1361 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,080 Speaker 1: holding penalty that would have put uh twenty five yard 1362 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,919 Speaker 1: catched to Curse really late in the game, that would 1363 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 1: have put him on the doorstep of the end zone. 1364 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: That cut called back, and then two plays later, Russell 1365 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 1: Wilson fumbled because he didn't run out of bounds. He 1366 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 1: chose to fight for extra yards instead. But I didn't 1367 01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 1: think they were out of it until that Russell Wilson 1368 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 1: Bumble still thought that he was gonna come back and 1369 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 1: make something happen. Division factor is real, though. I mean, 1370 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 1: the teams inside your division play you different, they know 1371 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,520 Speaker 1: you different. It's a different game. The Falcons showed it today. 1372 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 1: The Ravens showed it. The Rams showed it. The Rams 1373 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 1: are three and one against the Cardinals and Seahawks. The Rams, 1374 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean the Rams, who are a thoroughly mediocre team 1375 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: who lost to you know, the Ravens. They lost to 1376 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 1: some other lousy teams there. Three and one against two 1377 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 1: of the best teams in the league, and they did 1378 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 1: it against Harbas two back in the day, right, And 1379 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 1: so they're gonna finish if they win next week, they're 1380 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 1: gonna get that eighth win. They play San Francisco. I 1381 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: guess they're gonna have to lose that game. Well, I 1382 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: have a little bit of breaking news here, guys, please. 1383 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:46,440 Speaker 1: NFL media insider Dan Hansis reports that Jeff Fisher has 1384 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,439 Speaker 1: forfeited weeks seventeen so as not to threaten his seven 1385 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 1: and nine finish. According to do with knowledge of the situation, 1386 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to break the news ahead 1387 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,520 Speaker 1: break it yourself that the other news. Uh, the Seattle 1388 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:07,360 Speaker 1: Seahawks had a ghost in this game. The proud Seattle Seahawks, 1389 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 1: no QB hits, no sack. Oh, I thought that was 1390 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 1: the dirty Peter. That's how I knew it. That's so 1391 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 1: there he goes Seattle Seahawks fall, will be going to 1392 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. But what's happenings? Which takes us to Sunday 1393 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 1: night football? So we knew the Giants are gonna be 1394 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 1: in some trouble on Sunday night, playing without Odell Beckham Jr. 1395 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Who of course was suspended for his uh wild man 1396 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 1: antics last week. What we didn't know was that they 1397 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't be even close to competitive in the game against 1398 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: the Vikings in Many Minneapolis. This was a complete blowout, 1399 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 1: a seventeen win from Minnesota, a game in which Adrian 1400 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Peterson went over a hundred yards uh to uh you know, 1401 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: strengthen his lead in the rushing title race, and Eli 1402 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Manning had you know, nowhere to go, nobody getting open, 1403 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,880 Speaker 1: unable to get the offense it's going Harrison Smith had 1404 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 1: to pick six. Uh. This was just a game that 1405 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: got away from the Giants and the Vikings here come 1406 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: the Vikings. Now with the Packers loss and a Vikings win, 1407 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 1: these teams are tied, or excuse me, they're not as 1408 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,800 Speaker 1: Minnesota's up a game, correct right now? It's coming down 1409 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 1: to week seventeen. That's all that really matters at the 1410 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 1: size of the division. But they are tied. They are 1411 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 1: tied at ten and five. Excuse me, So the division 1412 01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 1: on the line at Lambo next week. Minnesota takes care 1413 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 1: of business. Greg Rosenthal in a big way. West and 1414 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 1: I were arguing before we just went to tape this 1415 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 1: about whether we should be impressed with the Vikings the 1416 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 1: last few weeks and whether the Redskins or the Vikings 1417 01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 1: would be a more dangerous playoff opponent. I'd say the 1418 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,840 Speaker 1: Vikings because this is the team I haven't really seen 1419 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 1: a lot from to believe in all year. But they 1420 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,600 Speaker 1: go to Arizona, they play the Cardinals very tight. I 1421 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 1: think that was Teddy bridge ruters best game of the 1422 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 1: season at the time, and then he's followed it up 1423 01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,960 Speaker 1: with two really good games and they've blown out bad team, 1424 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 1: which is what you want to see. And the Vikings 1425 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,640 Speaker 1: right now are playing better I think than they have 1426 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 1: off season. Give me a break. The best team the 1427 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 1: Vikings have beat all year was the Kansas City Chiefs 1428 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 1: when they were one and four. I mean, that's the 1429 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 1: latest time the Packers and Vikings were set to play. 1430 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,839 Speaker 1: The Vikings were coming off a win against the Raiders, 1431 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,519 Speaker 1: team that everybody thought was frisky. Everybody thought the Vikings 1432 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 1: were gonna hand it to the pack He didn't think that, 1433 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 1: and the Packers swatted them down. I don't I don't 1434 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 1: believe in the Vikings. Oh, I have to stop Teddy 1435 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 1: Bridgewater to win a playoff game. Yeah I'm not. Sometimes 1436 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 1: sometimes Greg and West get into their little peak contests 1437 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: and and let me just you guys aren't far off. 1438 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 1: You're both in the same club without even realizing it. 1439 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 1: The Vikings are not a great team. They're kind of 1440 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 1: a good team that just happens to be playing well 1441 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the season. So while they're hardly unbeatable, 1442 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,599 Speaker 1: and the Packers might prove that as soon as next week, 1443 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 1: but they are playing well. They're a decent team that's 1444 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 1: playing well right now. I think everyone agrees with that. 1445 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 1: A peak contest, I like that, But can you say 1446 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 1: pissing kind? Well? I know, I mean, I think people 1447 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,640 Speaker 1: understeady Where you were going with that, I mean the 1448 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,719 Speaker 1: Vikings are well. I think they're a well coached team 1449 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,679 Speaker 1: where we in other situations they wouldn't beat ten and five. 1450 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 1: Right now, you're right that it's good that they're playing 1451 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 1: this way. At the end, they get all that and 1452 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 1: they're getting healthier. They get Smith, bar and Joseph back 1453 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 1: in this game and they drop a hammer on it. 1454 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 1: But isn't the greater point that West is making though, 1455 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 1: that we look at the Redskins, the Vikings throw the 1456 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Packers in there at this point and barring something really unfortunate, 1457 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,640 Speaker 1: if you want the best teams to get to the 1458 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,800 Speaker 1: end of this race in the NFC, all of them 1459 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 1: are gone in three weeks. Top heavy the I mean 1460 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 1: there are there are teams. There are three teams that 1461 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,599 Speaker 1: you can make a case for being a Super Bowl winner, 1462 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 1: and none of those three teams you just referenced could 1463 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: be one of those teams. You would think. It's where 1464 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 1: it gets interesting is next week the Vikings and Packers 1465 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,200 Speaker 1: will have the Sunday night games, so they're gonna know 1466 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 1: the winner of Arizona Seattle. If Arizona beats Seattle, the 1467 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 1: winner of the NFC North draws the Seahawks in the playoffs, 1468 01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 1: and the loser draws the Redskins. If Arizona beats Seat, 1469 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,400 Speaker 1: I'd much rather play on the road against Washington, absolutely. 1470 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's what do you do though, if you're 1471 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 1: a coach, I mean, you gotta play to win. You 1472 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 1: just you can't mess around with that. It's not like 1473 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 1: you can. I don't think you can do that playing 1474 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 1: to win this week or the next week. Now, you 1475 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 1: play to win every game, and just the chips fall 1476 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 1: where they may, maybe it's bad luck, and you go 1477 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 1: beat Seattle. If you're gonna be the you gotta get everyone. 1478 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: You gotta beat everyone will be in Seattle. I mean, 1479 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 1: Seattle is gonna have to go on the road, so 1480 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 1: that's a factor. I think the Giants, though laying an 1481 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,040 Speaker 1: egg in this game. They were the number thirty two 1482 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: team in past defense going into this week. Uh, number 1483 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:40,599 Speaker 1: thirty two team in defense. I'm just saying this is 1484 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 1: this is it. I'm not happy about it, but Coughlin, 1485 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,680 Speaker 1: the way that last week was handled with Beckham and 1486 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 1: then getting blown out like this at this point, I 1487 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 1: think everyone would be stunned if there isn't a house cleaning. Well, 1488 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,519 Speaker 1: I don't think it's any surprise that without Odell Beckham 1489 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,559 Speaker 1: they're one of the worst teams in the NFL. I 1490 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,679 Speaker 1: mean that, what else do they do better? As a team. 1491 01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,799 Speaker 1: All they do well is get the ball to Odell 1492 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 1: beck Come and his presence opens up so much for 1493 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,000 Speaker 1: the rest of these guys who can't beat double team. Yeah, 1494 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 1: I mean I think that that Kauughlin, we talked about 1495 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,720 Speaker 1: it last week. With what he's been given to work with. 1496 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,879 Speaker 1: It's a one person team, two person team right now, Couughlin. 1497 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 1: It's not completely the culpable one here, Jerry Reese. The 1498 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,400 Speaker 1: GM has put a bizarre and really untalented roster on 1499 01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,840 Speaker 1: the field that are so many holes and do so 1500 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,759 Speaker 1: many things unremarkably at this point that the house cleaning 1501 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 1: and I mean not we're not we don't want to 1502 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,160 Speaker 1: call for that kind of stuff, but the front office 1503 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 1: needs to take along look at themselves. They have Eli Manning, 1504 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,360 Speaker 1: who is a above average quarterback for another let's say 1505 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 1: four years or so, and you have Odell Beckham, if 1506 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,760 Speaker 1: he could keep his head on straight and not be 1507 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 1: a knucklehead a week, Eli man And yeah, they're gonna 1508 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 1: have a you know, a top three wide receiver in 1509 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,559 Speaker 1: his prime for the next four years during whatever however 1510 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 1: long Eli has left. So they have two big pieces there. 1511 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,120 Speaker 1: They just have to get right around that. But they 1512 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,479 Speaker 1: still got they got a lot of work to do 1513 01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 1: on the defense, on the offense, they got to rebuild 1514 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 1: a coaching staff. Potentially. If Jerry Reese is still going 1515 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 1: to be the guy there, he's got a lot of 1516 01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 1: work to do because he's got to fix it fast. 1517 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 1: You have a thirty five year old quarterback here. This 1518 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,479 Speaker 1: team was five and four at one point. They've lost 1519 01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 1: what is that five out of six? Well in in 1520 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 1: in bizarre fashion, teams falling apart down the stretch, right. 1521 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 1: This is the first time in a while, really since 1522 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,800 Speaker 1: the Eagles lost when they were on the road, that 1523 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 1: they've just been blown out. I think that the Jets 1524 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 1: lost was an absolute killer for this team. It was 1525 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,960 Speaker 1: kind of like the final of five or six? What's 1526 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 1: your what? Why? I can't bring up the Jets once 1527 01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,360 Speaker 1: with your thinking that I'm tying everything back to the Dan. 1528 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,680 Speaker 1: Everyone was very happy for you today. Let's say we've 1529 01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,040 Speaker 1: got one minute left in the show. Let's keep it positive. 1530 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 1: Mark's unhappiness with the Browns, it spills over with my happiness. 1531 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 1: I just I do think that's that theory is completely wrong. 1532 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,520 Speaker 1: We are happy for you. We I'm talking to you specifically. 1533 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: I am happy for you. I mean, you know, my 1534 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,360 Speaker 1: team has sucked since I was in like sixth grade, 1535 01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,880 Speaker 1: so I don't even know what you know. Then, I 1536 01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,760 Speaker 1: because somehow everything ties back to a Jets matchup. The 1537 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,719 Speaker 1: Jets just sort of the Giants just sort of stink, right, 1538 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 1: that's of course the Giants think. But my point is 1539 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,559 Speaker 1: that they lost so many of those games, and that 1540 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 1: was the final one, and now they're starting to get 1541 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 1: their doors blow. I mean it was it was kind 1542 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 1: of to me the knockout blow for that team. So 1543 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,639 Speaker 1: now they now they're struggling to finish. The Giants are done. 1544 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,000 Speaker 1: We'll see what they do. The vikings ten and five, 1545 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,839 Speaker 1: six and two and home. Well, Mark said, I started 1546 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,640 Speaker 1: this show starting fights with people. I'm I'm excited just 1547 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,639 Speaker 1: watching you guys go at it here. So I love 1548 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I love Mark, but I think it's how 1549 01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 1: the Browns have heard him to the point now where 1550 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 1: he can't enjoy the Jet success with me. I would 1551 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,679 Speaker 1: enjoy with I mean this one we cover the Jets 1552 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,160 Speaker 1: and Brown's way too much on this podcast. That is 1553 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,719 Speaker 1: very fair. I mean, I don't know what you wanted 1554 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: me to do. What what were you expecting me to 1555 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,640 Speaker 1: do when the Jets won? A team that I am 1556 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 1: not invested on any level. On the fact that I'd 1557 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 1: like to keep you in a good mood, I really 1558 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,160 Speaker 1: don't care if they You don't need to keep me 1559 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 1: in a good mood. I'm are you even killed? Even 1560 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,519 Speaker 1: killed dude. I just I want you to be happy 1561 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 1: with me because I'm happy for you. I couldn't if 1562 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,599 Speaker 1: the shoes on the other foot, I would be happy 1563 01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 1: for well, the shoe never will be, so you don't 1564 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 1: need to worry about that burden. Dan. I don't think 1565 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,599 Speaker 1: we're gonna solve this. We're not gonna solve it. I mean, 1566 01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 1: I you know, listen, we've been together for fifteen hours 1567 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,799 Speaker 1: at this point. I'm doing my best to be happy 1568 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,800 Speaker 1: for you, and it's crumbling very fast. At the end 1569 01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 1: of that. I hope everyone watching on the split screen 1570 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 1: on YouTube something Mark turn his wrist over and look 1571 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 1: at a non existing way. I haven't worn a watch 1572 01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 1: since like third grade. So that wasn't the fifteen hours. 1573 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Mark started our time today doing an NFL Now hit 1574 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 1: where you said you were very agitated, and I agree, Well, 1575 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,599 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fake what I feel. I am feeling 1576 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 1: agitated all right. By the way, it's been, it's been 1577 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 1: a great it's been a great year together guys, a 1578 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,720 Speaker 1: great season. As we head towards New Year's Eve, Sydney 1579 01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,000 Speaker 1: last seed Sidney Carlson, who has done a tremendous job 1580 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,240 Speaker 1: all season for us UM took it upon herself to 1581 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,760 Speaker 1: put together a great sizzle, real little inside talk of 1582 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 1: the season. That that was, Uh in the around the NFL. UM, 1583 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 1: we're going to play that out. Brandon Marcus behind the 1584 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 1: glass will play that out. So if you're watching on 1585 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,759 Speaker 1: YouTube and you guys are Sunday Show, if you're listening 1586 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,600 Speaker 1: right now, always on YouTube and NFL Now, so you 1587 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,600 Speaker 1: can find it in either spot. Uh. So that's that. 1588 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,680 Speaker 1: So we will play that out. Uh and thanks to 1589 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 1: everyone for listening. We'll be back on Tuesday, going over 1590 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,320 Speaker 1: Monday Night football and everything else as we look ahead 1591 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 1: to the final week of the regular season. See it's 1592 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,439 Speaker 1: all the wheel spin in Mark, We're almost to the 1593 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,599 Speaker 1: end and with it. I don't want it to end. 1594 01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:45,680 Speaker 1: You don't, don't nobody believes that. That's I mean, I 1595 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: enjoyed this to someday. Great for Heaven's sakes, let's, you know, 1596 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,479 Speaker 1: keep it. You already said you're not buying in on 1597 01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,800 Speaker 1: week seventeen. Well we don't. We're running out of time. 1598 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 1: We'll get into that on Tuesday. Let's do that on Tuesday. 1599 01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 1: That's it. This is Dan Hansis signing off for the Agitated, 1600 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:07,000 Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boss, Big Beat, behind the glass, 1601 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:20,440 Speaker 1: working on that nickname. Oh well till Tuesday. Be Around 1602 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. Welcome back to another edition of the 1603 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansons and 1604 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,439 Speaker 1: I enjoined by Room Phil with the heroes, Mark Sesler, 1605 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,759 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley and Greg grows the doll. What's up? Boys? 1606 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 1: Hey da Anne just went around the room and touched 1607 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: us the thing you your hands touched. I didn't, but 1608 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm fine. I couldn't reach you, Mark, but I will 1609 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:45,800 Speaker 1: after the show. This is our Sunday Night, our flagship 1610 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,760 Speaker 1: show I like to call I'm watching this game. I'm 1611 01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 1: thinking which quarterback do I want. At the end of 1612 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,559 Speaker 1: games right now, and I want Cam Newton great. Can 1613 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 1: I see you do a dance again? Back at Mark 1614 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 1: reacted with excitement to a Browns game, What a waste 1615 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,559 Speaker 1: of time. My reaction was the game did not end 1616 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,840 Speaker 1: well and getting emotionally invested in this team on any 1617 01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 1: level is a disaster for this offense at Mega, you 1618 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:13,120 Speaker 1: know and Kate Jodie Football Dowdy Bonnage out Dan, this 1619 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,799 Speaker 1: is Gary Barnage and that is probably the worst British 1620 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 1: accident ever heard Connor or Mark Sessler in London and 1621 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 1: we walked into this point rather small pub and we've 1622 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 1: absolutely burke team with podcast listener, you guys were like 1623 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 1: the Beatles in nineteen sixty three. We would get the 1624 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 1: band who made it very, very big. The U S 1625 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:37,840 Speaker 1: District Court has nullified Tom Brady's four game suspension. Greg's 1626 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,920 Speaker 1: thrown a V is a big moment for him. Uh, 1627 01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't get better. The next individual to come to 1628 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 1: the doors she is the great Connie Fox. I'm just 1629 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 1: so happy I don't have to do that weird awkward 1630 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:56,000 Speaker 1: ISO cam thing. But now that's so much worse. No listen, 1631 01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean honestly that who is going to stop the Patriots. 1632 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,080 Speaker 1: Right now, I can't anything or anyone. I legitimately get 1633 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 1: nervous that Tom Brady will be beating my favorite team 1634 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 1: for twenty five years. Everybody's favorite NFL based game show, 1635 01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 1: wind Wester is tooster name the two wide receivers that 1636 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 1: went before Odell Beckham Jr. In the fourteen draft as 1637 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:24,600 Speaker 1: Sammy Walking Mike six out of six, Great Jobless, you 1638 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,280 Speaker 1: are the champion. This is Dad hands to signing up 1639 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:39,679 Speaker 1: till Summer to Night. What's up? Everybody? DJ here from 1640 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 1: Move the Six along with Bucky Brooks our podcast. 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