WEBVTT - MFM Minisode 486

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome my favorite murder.

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<v Speaker 2>minisode doing this for years.

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<v Speaker 1>As she did, and we're going to read them. Good job,

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<v Speaker 1>good intro, Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to go first?

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<v Speaker 1>This is for Mother's Day?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, So we're doing kind of an unconventional salute

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<v Speaker 2>to motherlike figures or mother's or mother's situation.

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<v Speaker 1>The way they've shown up for you in different ways.

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<v Speaker 2>In any way a mother or a mother like figure

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<v Speaker 2>can't No, one's going to check this. We can do

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<v Speaker 2>it anyway we want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. This one is Tram, a fan call member named Aaron,

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<v Speaker 1>and it starts Sadako made my childhood better, my adolescence tolerable,

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<v Speaker 1>and my adulthood enjoyable. My uncle's mother in law. Sadako

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny, feisty, funny Japanese woman who who brooked no

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<v Speaker 1>shit from anyone something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah brooke, Well it's brooken. Something that's like an old

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<v Speaker 2>fashioned saying brook.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Uh, what's it called? Quarter? Yes? Really?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely that's purely from yeah, who brooked no shit from anyone?

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<v Speaker 1>Made my life so much better. She says, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the mother in law of her uncle, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>so random and you don't even have to be nice

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<v Speaker 1>to that first.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's yes, exactly, But those are the people that

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<v Speaker 2>at like the family functions where you're like, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to go sit by Sadako because she's totally okay.

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<v Speaker 1>She would slip me candy, clean the glass door so

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<v Speaker 1>well I walked into them more than once. Made me

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<v Speaker 1>feel seen and encouraged me to live my life before

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<v Speaker 1>doing any anything my other relatives expected of me, i e. Marriage, children,

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<v Speaker 1>and all that bs that was pressed upon me starting

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<v Speaker 1>at fourteen. Gross.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that she slipped and cleaned the glass windows

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<v Speaker 2>so we walked into them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like that's how dedicated she was.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever she was doing, it sounded to me like two

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<v Speaker 2>plus's and a minus. They're hidden in there.

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<v Speaker 1>As an adult, my home intentionally was located near hers.

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<v Speaker 1>We would do store runs, lunches out picture all ninety

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<v Speaker 1>pounds of her eating a massive Wagoo birger the size

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<v Speaker 1>of her face, shared treats from her family in Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>some great and some I learned were absolutely foul as

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<v Speaker 1>I ate it, much to her joy, and generally demanded

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<v Speaker 1>that any event I was required to attend, that I

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<v Speaker 1>would be the one to show for her, so we

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<v Speaker 1>could bail early and just have a nice drive home

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<v Speaker 1>where we would take detours to just drive through all

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<v Speaker 1>the green and sunshine in spring and summer. She passed

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<v Speaker 1>April sixteenth, twenty twenty two, and I cherish the memories

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<v Speaker 1>I have with her. While the rest of my extended

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<v Speaker 1>family doesn't understand or even really know how much she

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<v Speaker 1>meant to me, she is still a light in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Pictures I have of her holding my firstborn, a daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>and her telling me that I did everything right and

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<v Speaker 1>that she was so proud of me and whatever I

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<v Speaker 1>did carries me through when times are hard. She is

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<v Speaker 1>loved and missed every day. Everyone have someone like her

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<v Speaker 1>in their life. Aaron, And before we started, you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna create your no. No, but you said I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna cry, I'm gonna break, and I'm like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>break for mothers, but this is what I want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't break for mother but this is.

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<v Speaker 1>What I want to be in someone's life. When I'm older,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't have kids.

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<v Speaker 2>You are with Micah, like with your nephews, I don't care,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't. A girl, you don't act like they

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. I mean they act like I don't care,

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<v Speaker 2>but they do. Because that's the other thing, is I

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<v Speaker 2>think that anti position. It's not about you giving them

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<v Speaker 2>anything they give to you and you just kind of follow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the piece of it. Okay, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I aspire to be, is sabaka sadako?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe all okay, break, I don't break for mine, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't break for mothers. And people are driving behind you, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is what is the fot her problem?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>The subject line of this is that one time my

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<v Speaker 2>adoptive parents stole me lighthearted and it says, I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>jump right in. I was removed from my home when

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<v Speaker 2>I was eight years old and raised by my aunt

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<v Speaker 2>and uncle, who would eventually become my parents. Before this happened,

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<v Speaker 2>though I had seen some seriously bad parenting for a

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<v Speaker 2>few years. My biological mother tried to get sober many times,

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<v Speaker 2>and during one impromptu's rehabs day, she left me at

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<v Speaker 2>her sleezy friend Lany's apartment. This woman liked pills a

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<v Speaker 2>lot and frequently fell asleep while driving me around. One time,

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<v Speaker 2>she thought she was parked and took her foot off

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<v Speaker 2>the break and we slowly crept down a small hill

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<v Speaker 2>into oncoming traffic. I got to save the day that day,

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<v Speaker 2>eight years old. I mean, I don't ever remember telling

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<v Speaker 2>anyone all the crazy shenanigans this lady got us into.

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<v Speaker 2>But somehow my badass aunt an RN knew I wasn't safe.

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<v Speaker 2>She came up with a sneaky plan that I never

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<v Speaker 2>knew about until years later, when she nostalgically asked me,

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<v Speaker 2>remember that time I stole you from Lany's. I did

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<v Speaker 2>remember being there for an entire summer, but couldn't remember details.

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<v Speaker 2>Her plan was to tell Lanie that they were having

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<v Speaker 2>a birthday party for my cousin and she would pick

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<v Speaker 2>me up and they could make arrangements to return me

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<v Speaker 2>after the party. Later that day, Laney called to ask

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<v Speaker 2>if I was ready to be picked up, and my

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<v Speaker 2>aunt answered with a simple no, thanks, We've got it

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<v Speaker 2>from here and never brought me back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, okay, it's going to get me.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea any of this went on, since

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<v Speaker 2>I was used to being shuffled around and these people

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<v Speaker 2>seemed nice. My aunt, who eventually became my adoptive mother

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<v Speaker 2>ssdgmed and got me the.

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<v Speaker 1>F out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay sexy and when in doubt, steal your niece. Side note,

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<v Speaker 2>I realized I was one of the lucky ones. Hold on, God,

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<v Speaker 2>damn it, this is what this whole thing is about.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the people who understand how at risk children

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<v Speaker 2>can be, even when it's not the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally situation totally.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized I was one of the lucky ones. I

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<v Speaker 2>was not one of the many children who have to

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<v Speaker 2>gather their belongings in trash bags and be thrown into

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<v Speaker 2>a scary situation. I'm forever grateful and pay it forward

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<v Speaker 2>whenever I can. Love you all.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah, Oh my god, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah and her badass aunt. That's just like nanwa. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gorgeous, so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is wedding dress treasure, dear fellow la peoples

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<v Speaker 1>and creatures. In two thousand and eight, my mom was

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<v Speaker 1>diagnosed with mesothelioma, that bitch of a cancer caused by asbestos. Horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>She underwent chemotherapy and refused to lose a single hair

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<v Speaker 1>on her head because she was too stubborn and vain

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<v Speaker 1>for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit.

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<v Speaker 2>How did she do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Wow, that's amazing, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing it well.

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<v Speaker 1>Her long term prognosis wasn't great. She was doing pretty

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<v Speaker 1>well and underwent cancer related surgery in February two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and nine. The exhortation was for her to come through

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<v Speaker 1>the surgery, and my siblings and I were planning on

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<v Speaker 1>taking turns caring for her after the surgery back in

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<v Speaker 1>our hometown in Pennsylvania. The things didn't go as planned,

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<v Speaker 1>and she died from complications from the surgery on her

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<v Speaker 1>sixty ninth birthday, so we ended up unexpectedly planning a

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<v Speaker 1>funeral and packing up her house. In the weeks following

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<v Speaker 1>her death, I was going through a cardboard box of

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<v Speaker 1>photos from the sixties, and at the bottom of the box,

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<v Speaker 1>under all these photos there was a crumpled up plastic

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<v Speaker 1>bag with what looked like a lace tablecloth. My mother

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<v Speaker 1>was exceedingly organized, so it was odd to have something

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<v Speaker 1>stuffed randomly in there, but I pulled it out to

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<v Speaker 1>see what it was. I shook it out, took it

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<v Speaker 1>out of the plastic bag and was surprised to see

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<v Speaker 1>that it was her wedding dress from when she married

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<v Speaker 1>my father in nineteen sixty five. White dress, knee length

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<v Speaker 1>Empire waste with long lace sleeves, one that Georgia would love.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have a photo of it and it looks

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<v Speaker 1>identical to fucking going My actual wedding fits for real,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much, not a stain on it, not a tear,

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<v Speaker 1>not a riff, basically in perfect condition, despite being stored

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<v Speaker 1>in the worst way for over forty years. I tried

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<v Speaker 1>it on because, of course, and it fit me perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>sweet right. But it was especially meaningful because right before

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<v Speaker 1>her surgery I had told my mom on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>that my boyfriend and I were looking for a house

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<v Speaker 1>and were planning on getting married. My first marriage had

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<v Speaker 1>gone down in flames, and the fact that I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting remarried to a man who loved me and my

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<v Speaker 1>two young daughters made her incredibly happy. According to my sister,

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<v Speaker 1>she was singing going to the chapel when she came

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<v Speaker 1>out of the surgery. In twenty ten, ten months after

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<v Speaker 1>my mom died, I wore her perfect dress and walked

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<v Speaker 1>with my two little girls in the backyard of our

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<v Speaker 1>new home to marry my amazing husband. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it was my mom's way of being at the wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>even when she couldn't be there. Below our photos of

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<v Speaker 1>my mom Kathy and dad Dan good job, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>on their wedding day, and one of me in the

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<v Speaker 1>dress on mine. Oh and please make those fuck you

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<v Speaker 1>I'm remarried sweats, Oh because I need them. Why have

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<v Speaker 1>we never thought brilliant? Thanks for all you've done in

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<v Speaker 1>so many ways SSDGM, and remember to not pack cool

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<v Speaker 1>family heirlooms and zip locked bags in cardboard boxes ever. Julie,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think we can show the photos. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at that dress I have the Iridge, she's amazing. And

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<v Speaker 1>then let's see that is your dress, Julie, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy like the scallop top.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh so beautiful. I'm not trying to cut in

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<v Speaker 2>on your thing. But that also looks like my wedding

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<v Speaker 2>dress because I wore my really sweating dress.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you were your mom wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and similar vibe. It was just longer, yeah, pretty,

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<v Speaker 2>so pretty. You know what, Maybe it's the thing of

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<v Speaker 2>their like it's not the classic mother's day because her

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<v Speaker 2>mother died, right, right, But I love the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>a mother that has fucking mesothelioma. It was like trying

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<v Speaker 2>to like get through every day and is like, I

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<v Speaker 2>have to make sure she finds this dress so she

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<v Speaker 2>sticks it in a box. Yeah, okay, So this one,

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<v Speaker 2>the subject line is Sarahgate mother. It says, hey, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>growing up, my mother was a raging narcissist with the

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<v Speaker 2>dead eyes and emotions of a four hundred year old shark.

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<v Speaker 1>That wow, that's the best description I've ever heard of anyone, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's right, just get it right out there.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad was a vodka soak guitar player, still chasing

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<v Speaker 2>his dreams of stardom while mentally being stuck in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>They did their best to raise me while still being

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<v Speaker 2>kids themselves, but there was always a very deep lack

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<v Speaker 2>of emotion in our relationship, and I felt alone a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>My childhood best friend's mother became my Sarah Gate mother.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name was Barbara. A teenager growing up in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>she had the best stories. She partied with some of

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<v Speaker 2>the musicians I was obsessed with. She encouraged me to

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<v Speaker 2>be myself, but she also called me on my bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>Since the second grade, she bought me clothes and let

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<v Speaker 2>me sleep over at her house whenever I needed a

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<v Speaker 2>break from my own.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I knew it. I was reading these was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Karen is going to fucking lose.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's like, A, did I not eat breakfast?

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<v Speaker 2>But B this That's how my mom grew up because

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<v Speaker 2>both of her parents were alcoholics, and my aunt, kay

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<v Speaker 2>Kirkpatrick Antoni Giovanni was her best friend and she was

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<v Speaker 2>raised by them. So when we were growing up, we

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<v Speaker 2>had my grandma, who he loved and was great, but

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<v Speaker 2>then we had the Kirkpatrick's that I was always like,

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<v Speaker 2>who are these people who are also our grandparents? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was thinking about like your friends and

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<v Speaker 1>neighbors and this person, and you call people cousins like

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<v Speaker 1>you have a huge, huge yes. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to cry it every single way.

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<v Speaker 2>There's I'm going to relate to every single person.

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<v Speaker 1>If we do a cat episode, I'll cry it every

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<v Speaker 1>single one.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>She even drove me all over town for an entire

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<v Speaker 2>day looking for an apartment to move into. When I

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<v Speaker 2>was seventeen, and my own mother told me she couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>afford to have me live in her house anymore. She

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<v Speaker 2>was righteously funny, sarcastic, and I loved her. She adopted

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<v Speaker 2>me as her own child, and her house became my

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<v Speaker 2>safe space until I was almost twenty. She taught me

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. Barbara passed away in her sleep from a

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<v Speaker 2>heart attack in her late forties in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That's tough. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Mostly I miss hearing her voice because it had a charming,

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<v Speaker 2>calming quality to it. I found that same feeling, and

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<v Speaker 2>the voices of your podcast, Oh, God damn it wow,

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<v Speaker 2>also was on the second page. Didn't surprise hold for emotion.

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<v Speaker 2>You both have similar voices to Barbara, and very similar

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<v Speaker 2>senses of humor. I know she would have loved your podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would have shown it to her if I'd

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<v Speaker 2>discovered it back then. Sometimes when I listened to the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>God damn it. Sometimes when I listen to the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine what it would be like discussing current

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<v Speaker 2>events with her if she were here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Oh my god, I do that all the

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<v Speaker 1>time with my mom. You do well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she would fucking love this, so much. She would

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<v Speaker 2>think it was amazing, like, oh my god, sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>God, you hen me. No, it's good that one of us.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like, I think this is the point of this,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, this is what Mother's Day is like for

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<v Speaker 2>people whose mothers are gone or who never had them

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place. It's just what it's like. This

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<v Speaker 2>is just one of the many reasons why I love

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<v Speaker 2>what you do. It helps combat the loneliness of losing

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<v Speaker 2>someone you care about deeply to remember them fondly, and

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<v Speaker 2>you both help me to do that. It's truly a gift.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it just says Jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I never thought of us in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we call each other aunties all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, actually what that means? Yeah, jazz, you said Jazz. Jazz,

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Jazz. Thanks for making me cry on TV. Jazz

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<v Speaker 3>very unprofessional.

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<v Speaker 1>We contain moreitudes all the tears. You also look pretty

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<v Speaker 1>when you cry, which is fucking hard to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't look pretty when I cry.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hilarious because to me, I look like an Like

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<v Speaker 2>the second I have emotion, my eyes turn bright red.

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<v Speaker 1>No they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It always looks crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Same for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why are we we're criticizing our appearance while we're

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<v Speaker 2>having an emotion.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the fun.

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<v Speaker 2>That's old, that's nineties. Shit, it's weird. Get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, not all spirits like the dark is my

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<v Speaker 1>last one? Oh, get ready to cry. Okay, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't cry this one, something's wrong. Hey my favorite Murderino

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<v Speaker 1>Babes and four legged Friends. So my best friend Sierra's

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<v Speaker 1>mom passed away unexpectedly in twenty fifteen, and it shattered

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who knew her. She was the neighborhood mom who

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<v Speaker 1>took care of every child as if they were her own,

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<v Speaker 1>and since I grew up with my best friend, her

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<v Speaker 1>mother was like a second mom to me. Because of

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<v Speaker 1>her unexpected passing, her landlord was very kind and gave

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<v Speaker 1>us extra time to arrange her belongings and get every

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<v Speaker 1>removed from her condo. Sierra and I were finishing everything

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<v Speaker 1>up and left only a single lamp in the house,

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<v Speaker 1>a cheap dollar store six foot lamp shot all the

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<v Speaker 1>lights off and locked up. When we were pulling out,

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<v Speaker 1>we looked back at the house one last time, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to remember all the great times we shared there, and

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that the lamp that was left in her mother's

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<v Speaker 1>room was on. Thinking one of us must have not

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<v Speaker 1>flipped the switch all the way or some bullshit, I

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<v Speaker 1>parked my truck and went back in to turn off

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<v Speaker 1>the light. This time I knew one hundred percent that

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<v Speaker 1>the light was off and continued to lock up the house.

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<v Speaker 1>When we went to leave, the light was on. At

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<v Speaker 1>this point, we thought someone's playing a dumb prank on us,

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<v Speaker 1>so we both went in and took one last look around.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the house was empty, so this time, for

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<v Speaker 1>good measure, we unplugged the lamp, and Sierra even moved

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<v Speaker 1>the lamp away from the outlet, which was by the window,

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<v Speaker 1>to the opposite side of the room, and we closed

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<v Speaker 1>the door, thinking that it must have been some freak

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<v Speaker 1>occurrence or that we were both just mentally exhausted from

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<v Speaker 1>the recent events. When we walked outside, we both looked

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<v Speaker 1>up at her mother's bedroom window and saw the light

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<v Speaker 1>was off, and we laughed for a second, climbed back

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<v Speaker 1>into my truck and went to leave. When we reversed out,

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<v Speaker 1>Sierra took one last look and I saw her jaw drop.

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<v Speaker 1>The fucking light was on again and the lamp was

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<v Speaker 1>back by the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point we said fuck it and agreed that

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<v Speaker 1>her mom prefers the lights on. Looking back, now, we

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<v Speaker 1>laugh about it and take solace in the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>she's still with us and still finds ways to make

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<v Speaker 1>us smile. Thank you for bearing with me through this email,

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<v Speaker 1>as I am not the best writer. That's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a great story.

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<v Speaker 1>I also want to say thank you for helping people

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<v Speaker 1>be more aware of mental illness and helping erase the

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<v Speaker 1>stigma that comes with having a mental illness. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to be so ashamed and scared of my mental illnesses,

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<v Speaker 1>but over the years I have learned that my mental

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<v Speaker 1>illnesses don't define me or control what I am capable of.

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<v Speaker 1>Much love from Columbus, Ohio. Alie, Kay, Alie.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom would be so excited you say.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's so BEAUTI yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, I mean if I was in that draw

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<v Speaker 2>in that parking lot and I looked back up, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have just been like, yeah, someone call the police

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<v Speaker 2>or something like holy shit.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's so I love those little unexplained things that

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<v Speaker 1>you're just like, of course it's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course it's that they just need you to

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<v Speaker 2>know that.

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<v Speaker 1>They love you. Yeah. It's like a little wink.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, here's my last one. It says, uh, my

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<v Speaker 2>honorary mom is a subject line. This is high KNG.

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<v Speaker 2>Been listening since twenty eighteen. Love you gals, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>My honorary mom was Missus Hamstra, my seventh grade math teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>She helped me overcome the intense feeling of failure after

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<v Speaker 2>a very terrible year of sixth grade math. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>did she help in still confidence, but she taught in

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<v Speaker 2>such a way where math no longer felt hard to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a great teacher. Missus Hamstra opened up

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<v Speaker 2>her classroom to me in the early morn when I

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<v Speaker 2>had to be dropped off at seven point thirty and

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<v Speaker 2>school didn't start until nine to twenty. I'm a teacher now,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's not a snowballs chance in hell i'd be

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<v Speaker 2>at work that early.

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<v Speaker 1>Or real. I had a teacher that let me in

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<v Speaker 1>at lunch when I didn't have any friends and like

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<v Speaker 1>eat lunch in her And then I didn't have lunch too,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she gave me lunch like half a sandwich

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she listened to me laughed with me and allowed

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<v Speaker 2>me to be my weird middle school self, all while

0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.919
<v Speaker 2>encouraging and reminding me that though math was hard, I

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<v Speaker 2>was capable. Middle school is should be illegal. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking worst.

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<v Speaker 1>You are at your worst hormonally, physically, mentally, Like none

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<v Speaker 1>of it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a family picture of me, and I'm in seventh

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<v Speaker 2>grade and I'm still wearing like those little mini ponytails,

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<v Speaker 2>like my hair's down, but then mini ponytails and like overalls,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, I'm dressed like I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>four It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't figured out if you're this or that yet

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<v Speaker 1>a grown up or a kid? Right, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>call break recess and everyone expended to you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just recess fucking a year ago. The rules

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<v Speaker 1>keep changing. Yeah, it's bullshit. Okay, fast forward a few years.

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<v Speaker 2>Missus Hamster and I kept in touch, and I learned

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<v Speaker 2>the devastating news that she had als. She sold all

0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.119
<v Speaker 2>of her belongings and moved to Columbia to become an

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<v Speaker 2>English and math teacher. She said she wanted to experience

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<v Speaker 2>life before she could no longer. Missus Hamster had the

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<v Speaker 2>adventure of a lifetime, and though I never got to

0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.640
<v Speaker 2>hear all these stories, not long after she returned back home,

0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.800
<v Speaker 2>her ALS got worse. Despite battling such a terrible disease,

0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.560
<v Speaker 2>she always made sure to make her friends, family, and

0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.959
<v Speaker 2>former students feel heard and seen and loved. Missus Hamster

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<v Speaker 2>passed away in twenty twenty two after a long and

0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.040
<v Speaker 2>valiant battle with als. She's the reason I am a

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<v Speaker 2>teacher today. Come on, and I hope that I can

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<v Speaker 2>make my students feel confident, seen and heard because middle

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<v Speaker 2>school sucks, but one teacher can truly make a difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Tyler, she her, Oh my god, Tyler. Also

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<v Speaker 2>all the themes here women total, the power of women,

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<v Speaker 2>women knowing their responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Their empathy, their like connection to other humans.

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<v Speaker 2>In a way that that really they can make up

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<v Speaker 2>for so much horror. And just like that, Karen kindness

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<v Speaker 2>and awareness, the Karen kindness, Karen kindness Murderinas.

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<v Speaker 1>You can be this to someone else at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in your life. So I'll always look for opportunities where

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that for someone someone else, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so meaningful.

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<v Speaker 2>Pick a middle school girl, they need you, dude, yes

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<v Speaker 2>please uh and stay sex and don't get murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>Goodbye, Elvis. Do you want a cookie? Ah?

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<v Speaker 2>This has been an exactly right production.

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