Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with
Speaker 1: the story of the week.
Speaker 2: Our first story this week is all about women paying
Speaker 2: to get salmon sperm injected into the vaginas, hoping that
Speaker 2: they could boost their sex lives. So let me start
Speaker 2: off with the use of the salmon sperm has been
Speaker 2: used in Korean culture heavily for years to treat aging skin.
Speaker 2: So according to this New York Post article, they're saying
Speaker 2: DNA extracted from the salmon sperm has the potential to regenerate,
Speaker 2: has regenerative qualities, working not only on the superficial level,
Speaker 2: but sinking deeply into the skin. So the salmon molecules
Speaker 2: also have this anti inflammatory effect, essentially rejuvenate skin anywhere
Speaker 2: on the body. So now they're using this to help
Speaker 2: women in their vaginas and to boost their sex lives.
Speaker 1: So we've talked about this before when you go through menopause.
Speaker 1: I think we were talking about it with Halle Berry, right.
Speaker 1: Remember she was misdiagnosed with a roaring case of herpes
Speaker 1: and she ended up just having a dry vagina from
Speaker 1: menopause and rough sex. Well, when you have this decrease
Speaker 1: in estrogen, it thins out the lining of the vagina.
Speaker 1: I feel weird when people call it skin because it's
Speaker 1: not really skin. It's more like the inside of your mouth,
Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't call the inside of your mouth skin. No,
Speaker 1: That's why I think it's like, really weird that they
Speaker 1: call it that sometimes. But this, so this is supposed
Speaker 1: to help with that. And of course when I was
Speaker 1: reading this article, I was like, well, that sounds awesome
Speaker 1: all for your skin on your body too, But of
Speaker 1: course do you want to know what My main question was,
Speaker 1: what how do they get the sperm from the salmon?
Speaker 1: Like do they have to jerk off the salmon? Like?
Speaker 1: What do they do? I looked it up. I looked
Speaker 1: it up in case ya tell me.
Speaker 2: Because I've never really wanted to go to that part
Speaker 2: of my mind where I'm thinking of fish sperms.
Speaker 1: Tell me, so, salmon, at least they don't. They don't
Speaker 1: really have sex like you would think about any other
Speaker 1: animal would have. Yeah, they have external fertilization, So the
Speaker 1: female has eggs that kind of go into the water,
Speaker 1: and then the male has sperm that goes into the water,
Speaker 1: but they do have like a little hole so they
Speaker 1: like a eurogenital exit kind of, so they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: they have to massage the fish in a certain way
Speaker 1: to make it kind of ejaculate, which is it's really weird. Well,
Speaker 1: the grossest part is that I looked it up on
Speaker 1: YouTube and there's like videos of what this sperm looks like,
Speaker 1: and it is it's kind of disgusting thinking that that
Speaker 1: comes out of a fish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't really want to think about
Speaker 2: the scientist that has to sit with a fish and
Speaker 2: like rub it off. You know.
Speaker 1: Well I used to think about the when I was
Speaker 1: in cyto tech school actually, because we used to look
Speaker 1: at cells under the microscope all the time and it
Speaker 1: would say like frog sperm or something, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I would just say to the teacher, like, so do
Speaker 1: they just like have little tiny hands like drinking these
Speaker 1: things off or whatever? Like how are they getting this?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Yeah, But so this has been used
Speaker 2: for a long time. Jennifer Anison even said she had
Speaker 2: a salmon sperm facial a while ago because she'll do
Speaker 2: anything to try to keep her youthful skin. So it
Speaker 2: definitely is interesting, and I mean if it's helping women,
Speaker 2: then that's cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's cool. It's just kind I mean, just
Speaker 1: thinking about using any sperm on your on your face
Speaker 1: or in your vagina. It's just like a little weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it definitely is weird. All right, let's get on with
Speaker 1: some celebrity news.
Speaker 2: Okay. So in Taylor Swift's new album, The Tortured Poets Department,
Speaker 2: which side note, like, there's this super famous movie called
Speaker 2: Dead Poets Society, so of course everybody's getting the album
Speaker 2: name confused with Then I just heard the other day
Speaker 2: that an entire news outlet, a news outlet had to
Speaker 2: retract an entire article because they referred to it as
Speaker 2: the Tortured Poet Society in the entire article. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: it is confusing. Like what was she thinking anyway? In
Speaker 2: her song Fortnite that came out, she admitted that she
Speaker 2: was basically a functioning alcoholic. The line is, I was
Speaker 2: supposed to be sent away, but they forgot to come
Speaker 2: and get me. I was a functioning alcoholic till nobody
Speaker 2: noticed my new esthetic. So as your children are swifties,
Speaker 2: have you heard this song?
Speaker 1: Yes, I've heard it unfortunately many times, because Maria and
Speaker 1: I were at Target bright and early on last Friday
Speaker 1: to pick up this album because Lilian as a record
Speaker 1: player and they wanted it first thing in the morning,
Speaker 1: after they stayed up till midnight to listen to it.
Speaker 1: So yes, I have heard it. So if you remember,
Speaker 1: back on April third, we reported that there was this
Speaker 1: association with heart disease and women who drank more than
Speaker 1: eight drinks a week. I think I've said this in
Speaker 1: the past, at least on this podcast as well, that
Speaker 1: I feel like she kind of does. She refers to
Speaker 1: drinking sometimes in her songs. And also I feel like
Speaker 1: all the times I say or she always has a
Speaker 1: drink in her hand or whatever, and like it's her life,
Speaker 1: she could do whatever she wants, and honestly like all
Speaker 1: of the stress and constant harassment she's under all the time.
Speaker 1: And I did read an article recently saying that like
Speaker 1: she can never ever be alone, which is she must
Speaker 1: have terrible anxiety. So I could kind of like see
Speaker 1: maybe why she self medicates a little bit. But we
Speaker 1: also did a story back in March about how there
Speaker 1: was this increase in women that were drinking alcohol. It
Speaker 1: was up to excessive alcohol use up to thirty five
Speaker 1: percent in women's You remember that, Yeah, So I mean
Speaker 1: it's good. I guess she said that she was getting
Speaker 1: she was chilling out because she was getting ready for
Speaker 1: her tour or whatever, So it doesn't seem like it's
Speaker 1: a problem anymore. But I mean, on top of that,
Speaker 1: just like break up all that stuff. I mean, and
Speaker 1: it was during the pandemic. That's just like hard for people.
Speaker 2: Besides just the social increase of people drinking more alcohol
Speaker 2: and with the data says and everything, I like, I
Speaker 2: just think she's in situations more where you might have
Speaker 2: a drink, Like somebody like us might go to an
Speaker 2: event or a wedding or something once a month maybe
Speaker 2: if that, she's going to these things like every other day.
Speaker 2: So just think of the situation she's in where she
Speaker 2: just might have one drink a day. I did read
Speaker 2: that she said she significantly pulled back her drinking because
Speaker 2: her worst nightmare is performing hungover the next day. I mean,
Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine going to work hungover, let alone perform
Speaker 2: for three hours straight and have to be dancing and
Speaker 2: singing and everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but dude, one hour a day is like a
Speaker 1: lot of alcohol. It's thirty one drinks a month or
Speaker 1: thirty drinks a month, and no, I get that, or
Speaker 1: considering like excess of use is eight or more a week.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just what I'm getting is I
Speaker 2: don't think this is a unique problem for somebody in
Speaker 2: her situation, being a celebrity, having to go to so
Speaker 2: many events. It's definitely not good. It's good that she
Speaker 2: identified and pulled back. Yeah, we've definitely seen her drinking.
Speaker 2: And if she knows it's an issue she has, and
Speaker 2: she could keep it and slim it down to maybe
Speaker 2: just once in a while, then that'll ultimately be healthier
Speaker 2: for her.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Christina Christina Applegate. This story
Speaker 1: was a little the title of it was a little yuck.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So Christina Applegate recently came out that she
Speaker 2: has MS and she just said that she had been
Speaker 2: suffering from You say this, I'm not even going to
Speaker 2: try to say this saple virus, sapo virus. Okay, So
Speaker 2: she unknowingly ingested poop. So what is this virus exactly?
Speaker 1: Well, I think so it says I I unknowingly ingested
Speaker 1: poop and everybody like clicks on it, right, But that's
Speaker 1: a lot of infections that people get are called fecal
Speaker 1: oral transmission, and that's why they say that. You know,
Speaker 1: especially if you're sick with one of these viruses or something,
Speaker 1: you have to be extra careful washing your hands. I
Speaker 1: have to go to the bathroom because even if a
Speaker 1: kid in your house has it and doesn't wash her
Speaker 1: hands and touches the doorknob, then you touch the doorknob,
Speaker 1: then you pick something out of your teeth. That's that's
Speaker 1: how you do it. So she didn't like eat a turd,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But that's how it happens
Speaker 1: with a lot of infection. So this is just like
Speaker 1: it causes gastrointitis. She said she was like peeing out
Speaker 1: of her butt or something.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So she thought she had COVID at first,
Speaker 2: and she was sick for a week. So finally she
Speaker 2: did a stool test and that's when she discovered she
Speaker 2: had this virus. But she thinks they came from a
Speaker 2: salad she ate at a local place that said they're
Speaker 2: closing down for unrelated reasons. But I'm very curious about that.
Speaker 2: But then what I found, I mean, at least she
Speaker 2: was able to see the light. And then she also
Speaker 2: was joking about how ridiculous it was and she had
Speaker 2: to wear diapers, and why are diapers like made pretty
Speaker 2: for women? Nothing about having to use a diaper as
Speaker 2: an adult as sexies, why even bother in making them
Speaker 2: look cute? And I agree with that. I think it
Speaker 2: is funny.
Speaker 1: So when I had salmonella when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I was I was like in seventh grade, I think
Speaker 1: I was twelve or something, when I didn't really leave
Speaker 1: the house much once I figured out that I was
Speaker 1: having a serious problem. But for even momm to bring
Speaker 1: me to the doctor, like I seriously thought that I
Speaker 1: was gonna poot my pants because it was like pouring
Speaker 1: out of me, like I couldn't even stop it. It
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. So I understand why she would wear a
Speaker 1: diaper as an adult, because you could imagine just driving
Speaker 1: to the doctor's office, like you don't want to shit
Speaker 1: in your car. That's probably the worst thing, ever, because
Speaker 1: how do you really ever get that smell out?
Speaker 2: No, I can't imagine, you know, I've had a couple
Speaker 2: of my life. Remember when I got my wisdom on
Speaker 2: the other end. Remember when I got my wisdom teeth
Speaker 2: out and I was throwing up so bad from the
Speaker 2: percosets they gave me, and they had to prescribe me
Speaker 2: a pill that resolved in my mouth because I literally
Speaker 2: couldn't ingest anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was terrible.
Speaker 2: And then when we were moving into the house you
Speaker 2: live in now, I had thee where's virus slash potential
Speaker 2: food poisoning of my life? And I was you know, no,
Speaker 2: we all did, all of us did, but I had
Speaker 2: it the day we were like the movie trucks were
Speaker 2: coming and I had twenty minutes in between intervals and
Speaker 2: your house now was like seventeen minutes from the old house.
Speaker 2: So I was like, if I leave right this second,
Speaker 2: I get to the new house.
Speaker 1: No, that was so. I was sick at the same
Speaker 1: exact time. And I remember I was driving to my
Speaker 1: job at the hospital and I never called out ever
Speaker 1: because I and yeah it was it was number one
Speaker 1: because I just don't call out. But number two if
Speaker 1: I ever call out, like my whole entire month is
Speaker 1: how after that, because they wouldn't have anybody cover for me.
Speaker 1: And I drove all the way to the hospital and
Speaker 1: I was in the car, and I called my boss
Speaker 1: and was like, I'm just gonna stay in here for
Speaker 1: a couple minutes, Like I'm too weak to come in,
Speaker 1: Just give me a minute, let me just maybe I'll
Speaker 1: take a nap for like a half hour and then
Speaker 1: I'll come in. And I'm like opening the door of
Speaker 1: my car, throwing up in the parking lot. And I
Speaker 1: was finally like Nicole, like what am I doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is the most fucking ridiculous
Speaker 1: thing in the world, Like I just can't call out,
Speaker 1: like I was legitimately so sick, and to think that,
Speaker 1: like this was before COVID obviously, to think that they
Speaker 1: would want me to come into the hospital that's sick,
Speaker 1: where there's people that like potentially could have got whatever
Speaker 1: I had, I just I mean I had to still
Speaker 1: go in the main space to go into the hospital.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2: So she's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So this virus, I'm not sure if if, like everybody
Speaker 1: gets it, but she is considered immunosuppress because she has MS,
Speaker 1: so she could have just you know, any other person
Speaker 1: could have been exposed to it. She could have been fine,
Speaker 1: but she just got sick because she has ms.
Speaker 2: So yeah, at least she was able to find the
Speaker 2: light in the situation. Now that she's better, all right.
Speaker 2: Next story, Okay, Courtney Kardashian posted to her Instagram story
Speaker 2: that she was feeling sick, so she quote pounded a
Speaker 2: glass of breast milk. So is there any benefits at
Speaker 2: all to an adult drinking breast milk.
Speaker 1: As of right now, there's there's nothing that says that
Speaker 1: it's recommended for adults to drink it, but it's don't
Speaker 1: I don't think it would harm you for sure. It's
Speaker 1: just like there's all these things that come out that
Speaker 1: say it may have properties in it that get to
Speaker 1: help you from illness and this and that, and they've
Speaker 1: been saying that for like hundreds of years, but like
Speaker 1: as of right now, like the WHO, for example, recommends
Speaker 1: that children get breast milk it's the best for them,
Speaker 1: but they don't have those recommendations for adults. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, these people are just saying this for seeking
Speaker 1: attention because that would get a lot of people to
Speaker 1: look at what she was saying, right, because it's kind
Speaker 1: of I've heard people do it, But don't you think
Speaker 1: that that it grosses people out so much that they
Speaker 1: would draw attention to that.
Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, and I also think she gets criticized because
Speaker 2: she has this like crunchy granola way of living, you know.
Speaker 2: So I think it's part.
Speaker 1: Of all that. The girl that makes fun of her
Speaker 1: on Instagram, I don't even know what her name is.
Speaker 1: She's just so fucking dead on. She's hilarious and she's
Speaker 1: always just like is that organic?
Speaker 2: Like she really does such a good job with the
Speaker 2: shaking salads of the post. It's on her fingers, which's THO,
Speaker 2: so good. But yeah, I don't know. I think it's
Speaker 2: part of that. You know, a lot of backlash I've
Speaker 2: been seeing she's been getting about this is that if
Speaker 2: she has such an excessive amount of breast milk that
Speaker 2: she can drink it herself, she should be donating it
Speaker 2: to you know, there's places where mothers who can't generate
Speaker 2: their own breast milk, or babies that can't get it,
Speaker 2: you know, could benefit from having real breast milk, and
Speaker 2: instead she's just drinking it herself. So I do think
Speaker 2: that is something to consider. You know, we don't think
Speaker 2: about the benefits it has for babies when we're producing extra.
Speaker 2: Maybe I never did her best interest to donate it
Speaker 2: to somebody who could really use it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, like I had a friend that was
Speaker 1: pregnant at the same time as me, and she used
Speaker 1: to have like a freezer full of it. She just
Speaker 1: got so much, and I just I was always like, yo,
Speaker 1: like I have two bags in the freezer. So like
Speaker 1: once that's out, like it was enough to go to
Speaker 1: dinner or something, and that was it. I just couldn't
Speaker 1: get it like that. It was like really interesting. But
Speaker 1: so so side note, there's like a thing that bodybuilders
Speaker 1: like to drink breast milk because they think it helps
Speaker 1: them like build muscle and and with with less fat.
Speaker 1: So there's this whole entire market where you can go
Speaker 1: and buy breast milk like off the internet and of
Speaker 1: course anything enough, and of course it's like not regulated.
Speaker 1: So it's like like just think about that, would you like,
Speaker 1: would you really feel comfortable just like buying cow's milk
Speaker 1: from some farm that was selling it online because you
Speaker 1: can get so many sicknesses from milk if it's not
Speaker 1: refrigerated properly, or like with breast milk, for example, you're
Speaker 1: using like this pump machine that that you use to
Speaker 1: clean water and stuff like, you have to sterilize everything
Speaker 1: in between because if you don't, like you can contaminate
Speaker 1: it with bacteria and stuff.
Speaker 2: I had a funny thought because we got there's this
Speaker 2: farmer's market near my house every Saturday in the summer
Speaker 2: and we go there and sometimes I buy cheese from
Speaker 2: this stand. It's a dairy farm and they sell.
Speaker 1: Cheese and stuff.
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking of somebody just pitched the table with
Speaker 2: selling their own breast milk cheese, freaking out. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: seems like I don't know because you're you're saying there's
Speaker 2: no known benefits to it, so maybe well the guys
Speaker 2: just have mommy complexes or something there.
Speaker 1: It's I don't want to say that there's not known
Speaker 1: because there are there has been research done that says
Speaker 1: that there's these properties in it, but like there hasn't
Speaker 1: been enough studies done to say that. And there's probably
Speaker 1: a reason for that actually, because what if they say
Speaker 1: there's health benefits for adults, then what happens like people
Speaker 1: like that's just going to open the door to this
Speaker 1: whole other thing that like cause you know, like I
Speaker 1: let my milk dry up. But if I just didn't
Speaker 1: do that and I had someone or something sucking on
Speaker 1: it all the time, Like I still have milk and
Speaker 1: my kids are ten years old.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Most people, it's just it's I know, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like it could be this whole other market of
Speaker 1: like people making money to sell it to people, and
Speaker 1: then there's gonna there's not gonna be regulations because the
Speaker 1: government takes twenty years to catch up and all these
Speaker 1: people are gonna get weird sicknesses and it's just go
Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: I just like, yeah, I don't think it's for me,
Speaker 2: But if you want to do it, then do you.
Speaker 1: Exactly. That's my theory on life, Like I don't give
Speaker 1: a shit what you do as long as it doesn't
Speaker 1: affect me, all right. Freak accidents.
Speaker 2: So a Chinese tourust in Indonesia fell two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty feet to her death while trying to take a
Speaker 2: photo on the edge of an active volcano. So this
Speaker 2: woman and her husband climbed to the top of this
Speaker 2: volcano on a guided tour. The tour guide has come
Speaker 2: out and said she was repeatedly warned to stay far
Speaker 2: away from the edge of the cliff, and they, you know,
Speaker 2: they kept taking pictures. And then I think she was
Speaker 2: wearing a skirt. It just said long piece of clothing,
Speaker 2: but from the picture it looked like a skirt. But
Speaker 2: anyway she got she tripped up in the skirt, fell
Speaker 2: and fell to her death.
Speaker 1: Ultimately, this would probably happen to me, honestly, because like
Speaker 1: one of my my bucket lists dream things is to
Speaker 1: go see an active volcano. I would love that, but
Speaker 1: I wouldn't wear a skirt, Like I I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're when you're going to do like
Speaker 1: an outside activity, aren't you like, oh I like something
Speaker 1: like that that requires a hike and everything, Like aren't
Speaker 1: you like let me put on like a good pair
Speaker 1: of thick jeans and a pair of like hiking boots,
Speaker 1: Like why would you wear a skirt? And she lifted
Speaker 1: her leg and posts, did you see the actual picture
Speaker 1: she took?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I just want to say, I feel like,
Speaker 2: obviously this it was ruled accidental, and it was obviously
Speaker 2: an accident, but it was definitely not a smart decision
Speaker 2: on any hiking situation to wear long loose hanging clothing, right,
Speaker 2: because the likelihood of you getting injured or in this
Speaker 2: case dying is high. But I also feel like, why
Speaker 2: wouldn't the tour guide be like you can't come up
Speaker 2: wearing it? Yeah, like what if you had to run
Speaker 2: away from a bear? I don't know, I feel I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, like any animal, Like I always think like
Speaker 2: there could be a situation where you have to run,
Speaker 2: or like the ground could get loose, just anything. I
Speaker 2: feel like that the company has some type of responsibility
Speaker 2: in this where you know, like they know the dangers
Speaker 2: they're facing, right, So why weren't they like yo yo homegirl,
Speaker 2: like you can't be wearing there.
Speaker 1: Well, remember we covered that story in the Grosser Room
Speaker 1: from that volcano in was it in New Zealand or Australia?
Speaker 2: It was like that.
Speaker 1: It was out card Yeah, the island that people would visit,
Speaker 1: and it was a tour that was off of like
Speaker 1: a cruise, right, Yeah, and then people went there and
Speaker 1: got these Yeah, they took a boat there from the mainland. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they got they got seriously burned and some of
Speaker 1: them even died, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I mean these tours are there's probably like a
Speaker 1: shit ton of paperwork you signed because you're going to
Speaker 1: see some kind of natural thing. Although that didn't really
Speaker 1: seem to get her. But it was even crazier that
Speaker 1: they said that they had to rescue her, so they
Speaker 1: had to go get her somehow. They said it took
Speaker 1: like two hours to get her out.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was actually wondering about that with the risk,
Speaker 2: because wasn't it the case with the Wakari volcano that
Speaker 2: they like detected activity but still went on the tour
Speaker 2: anyway or something like that. I guess what I'm getting
Speaker 2: at is maybe if they were detecting a lot of activity,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't have sent rescuers down, but maybe because they
Speaker 2: could since it was chilled, they felt safe sending other
Speaker 2: people down because I would think if they thought an
Speaker 2: incident was about to happen, they wouldn't therefore then risk
Speaker 2: other people's lives trying to rescue somebody. Yeah, so I
Speaker 2: don't know, but yeah, she died. It took them two
Speaker 2: hours to get her, all because she tripped on her skirt.
Speaker 1: So see, I just like, when I read this story,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to go there now, it's just
Speaker 1: go there. So fascinated by like volcanoes, especially, I just
Speaker 1: think they're so cool.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not more adventurous with certain things
Speaker 2: like this because I know I am such a klutz
Speaker 2: and I don't even want to put myself in the
Speaker 2: situation for something like this to happen to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because I know it's inevitable. Okay. So last April, a
Speaker 2: sixty four year old Montana woman became seriously ill after
Speaker 2: eating a sushi roll with salmon and MOREL mushrooms at
Speaker 2: a local restaurant. So MOREL mushrooms are considered edible, however,
Speaker 2: the CDC has warned that they need to be fully
Speaker 2: cooked to prevent toxic effects. They can hold and this
Speaker 2: restaurant I had them imported from China, So within one
Speaker 2: hour of eating the sushi, this woman was one of
Speaker 2: over fifty people to become seriously ill. She spent the
Speaker 2: next two weeks in the ICU as the toxins from
Speaker 2: the mushrooms slowly destroyed her liver and kidneys. It damaged
Speaker 2: her throat so badly that she had to communicate her
Speaker 2: final words with her family by writing on a with
Speaker 2: marker on a piece of paper, and she was one
Speaker 2: of two people that died from these mushrooms at this restaurant.
Speaker 2: Do you this is the thing that I have a
Speaker 2: problem with because we like to eat different foods and stuff.
Speaker 2: Like if you go to like, I didn't even know this.
Speaker 2: So as a consumer, you go and you get sushi.
Speaker 2: I guess they do give you the warning if you're
Speaker 2: eating under cook sushi there's a risk of you getting
Speaker 2: like a fish tapeworm or something. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 2: the implication is with fish not Yeah, I do, Like.
Speaker 1: I never even would have thought of that.
Speaker 2: I would never as a restaurant owner, I would never
Speaker 2: take the liability of serving something that has known effects
Speaker 2: if it's not cooked properly. Correct. I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: you could say the same thing about meat, but mushrooms
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't know. I Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: you could say the same thing about meat too. But
Speaker 1: do you think it's possible that the people that own
Speaker 1: the restaurant don't know that for sure that they have
Speaker 1: to be cooked at a certain temperature.
Speaker 2: And but that's the responsibility to know. Like you, for example,
Speaker 2: you might take on the risk of having food, but
Speaker 2: you have to have at least in America at least,
Speaker 2: you have to have surf Safe certification in your kitchen.
Speaker 2: So in that course you learn the exact temperatures everything
Speaker 2: has to be stacked or cooked. You learn how to
Speaker 2: stack things in the fridge, so if something drips onto
Speaker 2: another thing, you know, if that gets cooked, the bacteria
Speaker 2: gets cooked off at the correct temperature, there's a whole
Speaker 2: thing behind it. So yeah, but isn't that really just
Speaker 2: for like meat and dairy, Like, yeah, but I'm saying
Speaker 2: something so specific like mushrooms, right, Yeah, but if you're
Speaker 2: ordering this specific type of mushrooms, you must be familiar
Speaker 2: with it, because why wouldn't you just get an If
Speaker 2: you're importing this specific kind of mushroom, you have to
Speaker 2: be aware of it and what it does and if
Speaker 2: it has a specific flavor profile, because why would you
Speaker 2: be getting those when you could use any other mushrooms
Speaker 2: in the world.
Speaker 1: They were saying that the people I think, I'm very
Speaker 1: also interested in epidemiology a lot ever since I read
Speaker 1: the Hot Zone book. It's just it's so interesting to
Speaker 1: me people that do that for a living. So I
Speaker 1: was reading on the CDC website, like how they figured
Speaker 1: out that this was how all the people were getting sick,
Speaker 1: and it was it's just really cool that all these
Speaker 1: people are going to surrounding ers and having the same symptoms,
Speaker 1: but they were getting sick within an hour of eating,
Speaker 1: like so sick, going to the hospital.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's very uncommon for food poisoning. Food poisoning
Speaker 2: typically takes twelve to twenty four hours to kick in,
Speaker 2: so if something's happening immediately, it's more than likely something
Speaker 2: like this or really like a top like something that's
Speaker 2: like a like a toxin.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's definitely something to consider because it is
Speaker 2: very unusual that food poisoning would kick in so quickly,
Speaker 2: unless you know, you might go to a re like
Speaker 2: I can't have soy for example. So if I had soy,
Speaker 2: I would get sick pretty quickly because my body is
Speaker 2: allergic to that, so it wants to get rid of
Speaker 2: it immediately or react to it immediately. But if I
Speaker 2: got food poisoning from something and so to my husband,
Speaker 2: it would take hours for that to set in and
Speaker 2: then develop the symptoms. So I don't know. To me,
Speaker 2: this is a fault of the restaurant one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I think if you're if you're importing such a rare,
Speaker 2: If you are using an ingredient such as these mushrooms
Speaker 2: that have to be imported, you should also know everything
Speaker 2: about them, because why not use baby bella or white
Speaker 2: or chataki, you know, anything.
Speaker 1: Because they're it's because they're a delicacy. They're like forty
Speaker 1: dollars a pound's If they're a delicacy, you should know
Speaker 1: everything about them. So this is just how I feel
Speaker 1: about it, Like you're purposely seeking out this unique ingredient,
Speaker 1: it is your to know everything about it.
Speaker 2: So that's that on that in my opinion. Now I
Speaker 2: feel the same way. But anyway, the restaurant's been hit
Speaker 2: with a wrongful death suit, but they, as far as
Speaker 2: this article suggests, are still open and in business. So
Speaker 2: I don't know I feel about that either.
Speaker 1: I just think that I don't understand why they're allowed
Speaker 1: to be here if they can make people that sick
Speaker 1: of I guess it's the same with me, like you
Speaker 1: can't ban everything.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just think this is like how
Speaker 2: often are they served in restaurants? Yeah, but this is
Speaker 2: like direct negligence in my opinion. Yeah, I mean, but
Speaker 2: I mean the same could be said about anybody that
Speaker 2: gets that, that gets food poisoning. I guess. Yeah, this
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Speaker 2: So really disturbingly, this fourteen year old has allegedly invited
Speaker 2: her friend to see her mom's corpse after killing her
Speaker 2: so Carly Madison greg was arrested last month and charged
Speaker 2: with the murder of her mother and attempted murder of
Speaker 2: her stepfather. Their home security cameras showed her and her
Speaker 2: mother returning home from being out. Within minutes, Carly is
Speaker 2: seen going into her mother's bedroom. Then gunshots are heard
Speaker 2: as well as screaming. So in the minutes after the gunshots,
Speaker 2: video shows that she walked into the kitchen and was texting.
Speaker 2: Prosecutors believe, based on the timeframe, that she was texting
Speaker 2: her stepfather asking when he would be home. In the meantime,
Speaker 2: she's seen being calm, singing to her dog, and then
Speaker 2: that's when she invites the friend over to see her
Speaker 2: mother's dead body. So you must be thinking, like, this friend,
Speaker 2: who's a teenager, is probably like, what the f is
Speaker 2: going on here? She even chose the friend the weapon
Speaker 2: she confesses to the murder. Finally, the stepdad gets home,
Speaker 2: she shoots him in the shoulder, but he was able
Speaker 2: to get the gun away from her. She ran out
Speaker 2: of the house and was captured shortly after.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the most disturbing part is obviously when
Speaker 1: she called the friend and she just call. She called
Speaker 1: the friend over and said, I have an emergency, and
Speaker 1: then the friend's dad drove his daughter over to the house.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And then she was like, hey, have you ever seen
Speaker 1: a dead body? And then proceeds to show her her
Speaker 1: dead mom. It's just like, really bizarre behavior. And I
Speaker 1: was hoping that there was going to be more info
Speaker 1: on this story because sometimes you think, like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: that's a little weird that she wants to kill her
Speaker 1: mom and her stepdad, Like, did anything happen there that
Speaker 1: like has been happening her whole life, and maybe she
Speaker 1: snapped because of that, or she just really disturbed or
Speaker 1: has some kind of underlying mental health illness that she
Speaker 1: was so that she was just so nonchalant about it,
Speaker 1: because you know, for example, like when Gypsy Rose killed
Speaker 1: her mom, like that whole thing went down, she just
Speaker 1: seemed like a little bit more chill about it because
Speaker 1: it was like this lifelong abuse that it wasn't like
Speaker 1: in a moment of range. And maybe it could be
Speaker 1: something like that, or it could just be like who knows,
Speaker 1: they didn't give any information like that. She our friends
Speaker 1: shocked about this. Did this just come out of the blue?
Speaker 1: Like was what's surrounding this?
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, exactly. My first thought was maybe based
Speaker 2: on her behavior, I mean, you have to think if
Speaker 2: she's acting so calm about it, it's either she's in
Speaker 2: a situation of abuse or she is really disturbed and
Speaker 2: just doesn't let this bob her, which is really disturbing
Speaker 2: for me. I don't know, Like my first thought was
Speaker 2: definitely something maybe was going on in the house. But
Speaker 2: the mother was a teacher, that doesn't necessarily mean she
Speaker 2: wasn't doing anything wrong. I don't know. I'm definitely really
Speaker 2: interested to see what comes out about this case, especially
Speaker 2: because the stepfather survives so we'll have all the information
Speaker 2: from him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: But it's really scary just to think you can just
Speaker 2: kill your mother and try to kill your stepfather, no
Speaker 2: big deal, and then just go about your day, and
Speaker 2: that you would also subject your friend to that horror
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, It's just it's really nuts because I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: like the friend might even be scared that she's next.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh yeah, I would. I would. It must be
Speaker 1: completely terrifying to see that someone that you know has
Speaker 1: just killed someone and the weapon is still sitting there
Speaker 1: next to them and.
Speaker 2: Being so relaxed about it, like no big deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so scary, all right. So this next story
Speaker 1: technically as an accident, but I put it under violent
Speaker 1: crime just because of how it went down.
Speaker 2: A drunk driver at the Swan Boat Club in Michigan
Speaker 2: drove into the building at the club, plunging twenty five
Speaker 2: feet inside. On the other side of the wall she
Speaker 2: hit was a child's birthday party, where she killed two siblings.
Speaker 2: A five year old boy and eight year old girl.
Speaker 2: At least fifteen other people were wounded, including nine with
Speaker 2: life threatening injuries, six adults and three children, and they
Speaker 2: all went to the hospital.
Speaker 1: I just hate drunk drivers. I can't stand hearing stories
Speaker 1: like this. Some parents lost their two children. Two children,
Speaker 1: a brother and sister five and eight years old, got
Speaker 1: killed because of this asshole. And how messed up do
Speaker 1: you have to be to go into a building like this? I, well,
Speaker 1: she was drunk. She probably didn't I intentially crashed into
Speaker 1: a building. She just was drunk and didn't. No, I
Speaker 1: agree with that, But to me, that's like blackout drunk level,
Speaker 1: like you didn't just have a couple and thought you
Speaker 1: could get home, Like you were totally annihilated. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I mean it happens every day, and it's always innocent people.
Speaker 1: And did she die, No, of course not. So.
Speaker 2: The driver was a sixty six year old woman. She's
Speaker 2: now been charged with two counts of second degree murder,
Speaker 2: two counts of operating while intoxicated causing death, and four
Speaker 2: counts of operating while intoxicating causing serious injury. And you
Speaker 2: know what, all I can help but think is she'll
Speaker 2: go to jail for like five years and get out
Speaker 2: and just do it again. Even if she goes to
Speaker 2: jail though for whatever, like it doesn't help anything. Even
Speaker 2: if she went to jail for the rest of her life, like,
Speaker 2: who cares about her? Like this this is gonna forever.
Speaker 2: And think about the woman that was holding the birthday
Speaker 2: party for the kids. She must feel terrible because it
Speaker 2: wasn't I believe they weren't her kids that were killed.
Speaker 2: So imagine having a birthday party for your kids and
Speaker 2: inviting people over to celebrate your kid's birthday, and then
Speaker 2: other kids die at your kid's birthday party. I mean,
Speaker 2: everybody that was there's life is affected forever because of this.
Speaker 2: And this lady probably doesn't even give a shit because
Speaker 2: she's a piece of shit. And I don't even think
Speaker 2: going to jail is going to do anything to her.
Speaker 2: It's just like, uh, whatever it happened.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully she'll burn in hell.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into some medical news. A study
Speaker 2: from Harvard University found that men who ejaculated twenty one
Speaker 2: times per month, either from masturbation or intercourse, we're thirty
Speaker 2: one percent less likely to get prostate cancer than men
Speaker 2: who ejaculated four to seven times per month.
Speaker 1: You want to keep the juices flowing. I think the
Speaker 1: thing is is that it makes it makes sense because
Speaker 1: there could be like tox and build up inside the prostate,
Speaker 1: So the more you're pushing it out, the less likely
Speaker 1: that would have an effect to potentially cause any cancer.
Speaker 1: The thing is is that dude, twenty one times a
Speaker 1: month is almost every day? Ye that walking, Like, how
Speaker 1: do you even have time for that?
Speaker 2: Well, clearly some people.
Speaker 1: It's it's yeah, compared to people that do only four
Speaker 1: to seven times a month. It's just like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just seems it just seems like a lot. It
Speaker 1: seems like it has to be on your mind every
Speaker 1: single day, and like how do you work and like
Speaker 1: have a family and just like function every day, go
Speaker 1: to your kids activities. It's just like every single day.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of a lot.
Speaker 2: To me. It might just be not a dude those
Speaker 2: so I don't know, it might just be part of
Speaker 2: some people's morning or nighttime routine. They just you know,
Speaker 2: take a shower, brush your teeth, get off and go
Speaker 2: about their day. So you just you just don't know,
Speaker 2: but good for them, Yeah, good for them exactly, all right,
Speaker 2: next story, So, recent research has suggested that people are
Speaker 2: better off with female doctors. So men and women have
Speaker 2: better outcomes when they are treated by a female physician.
Speaker 2: They have lower rates of mortality and readmission than those
Speaker 2: treated by male physicians. Data from Medicare claims between twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen to two twenty nineteen include over four hundred thousand
Speaker 2: female patients and more than three hundred thousand male patients.
Speaker 2: Roughly thirty one percent of both the male and female
Speaker 2: patient groups were treated by a female doctor. And that's
Speaker 2: how they got this statistic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that it's it's dull, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know, I personally think that this isn't really
Speaker 1: this isn't like mind blowing to me at all.
Speaker 2: I wasn't shocking things so either.
Speaker 1: But they're saying that, like female doctors and male doctors
Speaker 1: always practice medicine a little bit different because and they
Speaker 1: didn't say which way this goes, but they said that
Speaker 1: one one of the sex groups doesn't follow guidelines as
Speaker 1: properly and have bad communication skills. So like, I wonder
Speaker 1: who that is.
Speaker 2: The right think about relationships and patient care right exactly,
Speaker 2: Like think about like just trying to tell your husband
Speaker 2: to like be quiet while you're trying to record, and
Speaker 2: like how that communication goes down. No. Actually, I've been
Speaker 2: for the past couple of weeks writing up the Bad
Speaker 2: Surgeon documentary for the Gross Room, and I know you
Speaker 2: haven't read my research yet, but this goes directly hand
Speaker 2: in hand patient care and relationships. This absolute douche bag.
Speaker 2: So I'll everym more on that once that post comes out.
Speaker 2: But if anyone's watched Bad Surgeon, they know exactly what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I'm just I'm really not surprised. But
Speaker 1: the thing is is that the unfortunate part of this
Speaker 1: is that women only make up thirty seven percent of
Speaker 1: doctors in this country right now, so and they tend
Speaker 1: to practice like there's higher amount of women in pediatrics,
Speaker 1: but in things like orthopedic medicine and sports medicine and stuff,
Speaker 1: it's like super super low percent.
Speaker 2: It's only like seven percent. Yeah, women are in sports medicine.
Speaker 1: So if so, I don't know if that means that
Speaker 1: there's like worse prognosis with people that are getting orthopedic
Speaker 1: stuff done or whatever. I don't know, but it's it's interesting, right,
Speaker 1: it's not interesting. It's like duh, right.
Speaker 2: I actually met at a Phillies game, I guess two
Speaker 2: years ago, this woman that was an eye doctor for
Speaker 2: the Sixers, and she seemed like she had a pretty
Speaker 2: awesome life. So I think poor women should go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't, I guess I don't know if
Speaker 1: that would be considered sports medicine though, sports medicines like
Speaker 1: like when Bryce Harper like has to get surgery on
Speaker 1: his elbow and stuff. I don't. I mean, she could
Speaker 1: work for the Sixers, and that could be if she's
Speaker 1: an eye doctor, because they you know, some people have
Speaker 1: to wear glasses or whatever and it might be difficult
Speaker 1: to play. But I don't, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: would consider that to be sports medicine. But yeah, she's
Speaker 1: still I'm sure she gets paid really well and it's
Speaker 1: and and then you get to hang out with ball
Speaker 1: players all day and stuff. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she was a nice lady.
Speaker 1: So all right, Like, so let's talk about like a
Speaker 1: specific mail doctor or speaking.
Speaker 2: Of male doctor's doctor. Lewis Kwang, a Harbor UCLA Medical
Speaker 2: Center surgeon, has been fired for a variety of misdemeanors.
Speaker 2: So after a two year investigation, they found that he
Speaker 2: regularly gawkeed at genitalia of anesthetized patients and never disclosed
Speaker 2: that he was being paid by a medical device company
Speaker 2: whose products he used on patients. How nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he got paid a lot, like almost a
Speaker 1: million dollars seven hundred thousand dollars for some company that
Speaker 1: was telling him to use these joint replacements and then
Speaker 1: he was using them in patients and not disclosing that
Speaker 1: he was getting paid. I actually am surprised by this
Speaker 1: because this used to happen a lot back in the day,
Speaker 1: and I thought that there's been a ton of laws
Speaker 1: like that, this can't happen anymore. So I guess it can.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you have to think about that.
Speaker 1: Like let's say, for example, you go to the doctor
Speaker 1: and you want to get you're just like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: just having irregular periods, and they're like, oh, well you
Speaker 1: could use this how you do or you get something
Speaker 1: that they're talking you into. Kind of like if you
Speaker 1: found out that the more of those they sold, the
Speaker 1: more money they were getting, that's kind of like not cool.
Speaker 1: So they're not so to be able to do that anymore.
Speaker 2: Is this not the case with pharmaceuticals too.
Speaker 1: There's all these rules now things have changed because they
Speaker 1: used to come to the hospital and they used to
Speaker 1: like bring us all this stuff, like we used to
Speaker 1: get like crazy stuff lunches and this and that, and
Speaker 1: now there was some kind of rule that like they
Speaker 1: could come and bring a lunch, like if it was
Speaker 1: during a lecture, but they couldn't just come bring us
Speaker 1: presents all the time. There's like, ah, there's rules because
Speaker 1: of this. I'm telling you because it was affecting patient
Speaker 1: care big time. And I guess they're saying that this
Speaker 1: guy didn't disclose it. So maybe if you do disclose it,
Speaker 1: it's okay. You're like, hey, just to let you know,
Speaker 1: like I use all these joint replacements, but they also
Speaker 1: give me kickbacks. Maybe if you just say it out loud,
Speaker 1: that's fine. But this is the least of his problems, okay, least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. So colleagues told investigators that he quote looked
Speaker 2: under the surgical covers of black males who were under
Speaker 2: anesthesia and discussed the quote genitals of the day, and
Speaker 2: also discuss his favorite sex positions and his preference for
Speaker 2: auto asphyxiation.
Speaker 1: So first of all, like imagine.
Speaker 2: Just your coworker in general talking to you about being
Speaker 2: into autoerotic asphyxiation. Can you explain what that is for everybody?
Speaker 1: Well, it's when you cut off your air supply basically
Speaker 1: when you're getting ready to climax, so you it apparently
Speaker 1: it's like a more intense feeling. But people accidentally kill
Speaker 1: themselves while doing it because you're you're cutting off the
Speaker 1: oxygen supply to your brain.
Speaker 2: So we actually have a dissection about this because that's
Speaker 2: how David Carridine died. Correct, Yeah, And I just think,
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, this guy think about his coworkers and stuff. See,
Speaker 2: this is the problem because when you work in the
Speaker 2: hospital sometimes like the surgeons like the top of the line, right,
Speaker 2: So a lot of people work at like scrub techs
Speaker 2: and everybody else that are in their nurses they're hearing
Speaker 2: this shit. But like he's the boss kind of right
Speaker 2: for years and years and years and everybody probably listen,
Speaker 2: I've worked with with scumbag doctors that everybody's just like
Speaker 2: that dude's a perverb, just like stay away from him
Speaker 2: or whatever. But now like if I worked in that
Speaker 2: environment now, it would be different because now it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you you probably should say stuff about that now, But
Speaker 2: back twenty years ago, no, that was like kind of okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just like this dude's a freak. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: guy is a free He was like commenting on on
Speaker 1: pubic hare patterns and stuff. It's just it makes you
Speaker 1: feel gross because you've been like, I've been under anesthesia before,
Speaker 1: getting like stuff in my gyn area done, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to think that my doctor was like looking
Speaker 1: at how my pubes were shaved. That's so weird.
Speaker 2: It's horrible. It's absolutely horrible. And the worst part is,
Speaker 2: you know, they said this behavior has been going on
Speaker 2: for a decade and they've been aware of it since
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. So why did it take till twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one for him to go under investigation because he makes
Speaker 2: money for the hust Wait wa wait So then so
Speaker 2: then they fire him, right, and they give him this
Speaker 2: like discharge paper where we're telling him the reasons why
Speaker 2: he was fired, but they conveniently left out the fact
Speaker 2: that he had brought a gun to the o R
Speaker 2: and he had one time brought a knife to.
Speaker 1: The o R as well. Yeah, there's like this picture
Speaker 1: of him and he has is he like a military
Speaker 1: former military person? He was, She's wearing like swat gear.
Speaker 1: He's like he's like packing at the hospital.
Speaker 2: It's just a doomsday prepper. He's he's he's something I'll
Speaker 2: tell you that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So then they were like the entire time
Speaker 2: the investigation was going on, he was on paid administrative leave,
Speaker 2: so he was like making all of this money. He
Speaker 2: was the eighth highest paid county employee. How nice is
Speaker 2: that that this guy's getting paid all this money while
Speaker 2: he's being investigated for this, when there's been reports of
Speaker 2: it for nearly a decade. How does that make you feel?
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, Like just from what I've seen working
Speaker 1: what about Amy Lochran's story about how at the hospital
Speaker 1: that they were covering up a serial killer for years?
Speaker 1: Like this is this is like what these places do?
Speaker 1: They just kind of sweep it under the rug because
Speaker 1: like once, which is weird because that story comes out
Speaker 1: now and you think like all those like right now,
Speaker 1: if we lived in California and we had to get
Speaker 1: a procedure done, would you ever even want to go
Speaker 1: there because you're like, cool, They're going to be looking
Speaker 1: at my badge and like judging it and stuff like.
Speaker 1: But isn't it better to come out and say we
Speaker 1: learned of this behavior and fired this person instead of
Speaker 1: covering it for years and then it coming out in
Speaker 1: the news because now I'm like, I don't trust you
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, if I heard it, they be like
Speaker 1: that sucks. But at least they took care of it.
Speaker 1: So the next story is about this new change that
Speaker 1: is happening in Disney World or Disneyland or both.
Speaker 2: Right, well, it's both. It's Disney the parks, so well,
Speaker 2: I think just in America. But Disney recently updated their
Speaker 2: disability policies so it will take effect in Disney World
Speaker 2: on May twentieth and in Disneyland on June eighteenth. So
Speaker 2: their website notes that the DAS passes well now only
Speaker 2: be available to quote guests who, due to developmental disabilities
Speaker 2: like autism are similar, are unable to wait in a
Speaker 2: conventional queue for an extended period of time. So basically,
Speaker 2: these new guidelines mean that people with other disabilities that
Speaker 2: were eligible for the DAS will be determined on a
Speaker 2: case by case basis by a Disney's accessibility team. So
Speaker 2: this story's coming up because this twenty six year old
Speaker 2: content creator says she no longer feels welcome at the
Speaker 2: parks because of the changes. So she was born with
Speaker 2: a rare eye disorder. What is it called, oh.
Speaker 1: A chromatopsia topsia. A chromatopsia is that it is when
Speaker 1: she has a limited ability to look at color. She
Speaker 1: has like a problem with her color vision. But she
Speaker 1: also has sensitivity to light, so even if she's outside
Speaker 1: with sunglasses on, she still has a hard time. So
Speaker 1: I guess she was saying that before she even knew
Speaker 1: that she was eligible for this, she would just go
Speaker 1: when she went to Disney, she would just wait and
Speaker 1: till it was night time with the extended hours, just
Speaker 1: so she didn't have to be out in the sun
Speaker 1: like that. And then she found out about this and
Speaker 1: it kind of changed her life. So the DAS passes
Speaker 1: a disability access service, and that allows people to go
Speaker 1: on rides and stuff like they don't have to wait
Speaker 1: in the classic line that everybody has to They could
Speaker 1: wait somewhere where they're more comfortable, which would totally make
Speaker 1: sense if you have a child or something with autism,
Speaker 1: just because sometimes you have to wait outside and it's
Speaker 1: one thousand degrees for an hour, like standing super close
Speaker 1: to people. So it makes sense for certain people that
Speaker 1: can't do that. But I kind of support Disney because
Speaker 1: people are abusing the shit out of it.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I mean, like we've seen it, and I've seen the increase.
Speaker 1: I've been going to Disney my entire life, and every
Speaker 1: single time I go, it's just like it's like it's
Speaker 1: just creeping up on so many people that are using
Speaker 1: this kind of a service to cut it ahead in
Speaker 1: line when like they might have some in a little bit,
Speaker 1: they don't feel like walking, they don't feel like they
Speaker 1: could walk whatever, But like it's getting abused for sure,
Speaker 1: that's why they're doing this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess this This girl's getting a lot
Speaker 2: of criticism because she hasn't applied yet, I guess with
Speaker 2: their accessibilities teams, so she doesn't know whether she still
Speaker 2: is or isn't eligible for it. But she's trying to
Speaker 2: bring awareness to it on TikTok, so people are aware
Speaker 2: of it when they go to the park, but you know,
Speaker 2: people are just being dicks as usual. Saying that she
Speaker 2: exploited it and now that's why too many people are
Speaker 2: using it. And I definitely think I don't think she
Speaker 2: single handedly contributed to people over using it, but I
Speaker 2: think that is certainly what's happening in this case is
Speaker 2: too many people are trying to take advantage of it,
Speaker 2: but it just sucks for people that need it and
Speaker 2: now have to go through additional steps just because people
Speaker 2: are assholes and use things they shouldn't.
Speaker 1: I just think that a lot of people, like I've
Speaker 1: underlying health condition that I could probably be like, oh
Speaker 1: I can't I can't stand out in the sun that
Speaker 1: long in the line, right, I mean, that would probably
Speaker 1: not be good for me. But like, I just would
Speaker 1: never do that because I'm like, there's clearly people that
Speaker 1: need that service way more than I would, and it's
Speaker 1: just kind of it's it's just like a little bit
Speaker 1: of abuse to me. There's yeah, there's definitely people that
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. You know, It's like you know there,
Speaker 1: I know, I know some people and this drives me
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. That know, somebody with a handicap thing for
Speaker 1: the car and they use it even when they're not
Speaker 1: driving that person around, just when they're with their normal,
Speaker 1: healthy selves, And I'm like, why are you using this
Speaker 1: when it's for people to use it actually can't get around? Okay,
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, Like I just would never do
Speaker 1: that because it would just make me feel really gross.
Speaker 1: I feel like it says a lot about someone's personality
Speaker 1: if they use the handicap fired, do you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think about that. No, I I agree, Like,
Speaker 1: I think it's good for certain situations like I mean,
Speaker 1: people that can't walk and things like that.
Speaker 2: People that should have it should have it, yeah, but
Speaker 2: totally healthy people that don't need it absolutely should not
Speaker 2: be using it.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into some other death news.
Speaker 2: A woman in Philadelphia is in shock after her father's
Speaker 2: ashes were stolen from her car. So she went so,
Speaker 2: she said, she went to get in her car Tuesday
Speaker 2: morning to go to work, and she noticed that her
Speaker 2: car was ransacked. She had about twenty dollars in loose
Speaker 2: change in the car that was gone, and so was
Speaker 2: her father's earn. So my first question was, why are
Speaker 2: you leaving an urn in the car? But this woman
Speaker 2: saying her dad died five years ago and he was
Speaker 2: a mechanic and she liked having him on the road.
Speaker 2: It was all she had left of him, and she
Speaker 2: hasn't been able to locate the urn, so she's very
Speaker 2: you know, distraught about it, which I understand. But of
Speaker 2: all places, you don't leave anything in your car in
Speaker 2: Philadelphia limits at all.
Speaker 1: I just think it sucks that, Like I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: why like why can't she leave it in her car?
Speaker 1: Why why can't you? Because people are gonna steal it.
Speaker 1: Like there's like these two sides to it. It's like
Speaker 1: number one, Okay, anybody knows in Philadelphia right now, that's
Speaker 1: like a huge problem breaking in the car's car jacking,
Speaker 1: stealing cars, so you you wouldn't leave anything in their
Speaker 1: valuable because But at the same time, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: why do these people just deserve to go into your
Speaker 1: your personal property and take your shit? Like it's just
Speaker 1: not it's not fair.
Speaker 2: No, it's fucked up. And it's like who takes an earn?
Speaker 2: You know what it is, it's not right. Who takes
Speaker 2: twenty dollars worth of change? Like it's insane. It's the
Speaker 2: same person.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just like and and a lot of
Speaker 1: times because I've seen this happen with someone that I
Speaker 1: used to be friends with, like with the people go
Speaker 1: in the car and they steal all of this stuff
Speaker 1: and then they bring it to local bars and restaurants
Speaker 1: and try to sell it to get money to Patre.
Speaker 1: They sell and earn it. They don't even realize what
Speaker 1: it is. They just take it like they they just
Speaker 1: take whatever is there that could just be Like listen,
Speaker 1: last night, I went to CBS right and it was
Speaker 1: like the deodorant was locked up. I had to call
Speaker 1: them to open the deodorant, even though there's skincare products
Speaker 1: right next to it that cost double. And then I
Speaker 1: go to get tail and all the tail and all's
Speaker 1: all locked up, but the advil isn't and the etc.
Speaker 2: Isn't. Yeah, but it's it's based off of their records
Speaker 2: of what's stolen them.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, like the reason is is because
Speaker 1: people steal that stuff and then they bring it to
Speaker 1: places and try to sell it for cheaper than it's
Speaker 1: sold for, and people buy it. I don't know who's
Speaker 1: buying deodorant off of a person like that, but but whatever.
Speaker 2: I when I lived in South Philly, like I know,
Speaker 2: for effect, I locked my car at least two or
Speaker 2: three times. But it was parked out front of my house,
Speaker 2: and there's this device people can use, especially if you
Speaker 2: have the push button start that like will signal the
Speaker 2: keyfob if it's within a certain proximity and locked my
Speaker 2: car door. So there was two or three times I
Speaker 2: went outside and I never left anything in my car,
Speaker 2: and somebody would break in my car, take all my
Speaker 2: papers out of my driver or the glove box and
Speaker 2: just throw them in the front seat. It was so infuriating,
Speaker 2: and then I'm like, cool, total violation. Somebody was in
Speaker 2: my car. It would smell sometimes. I hated that you
Speaker 2: cannot It's not her obviously, not her fault this happened,
Speaker 2: but you cannot leave anything in your car in a
Speaker 2: major city because these people that break into the cars
Speaker 2: just don't care. They will do whatever. Some people just
Speaker 2: break into cars and like piss in them or sleep
Speaker 2: in them. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's terrible whatever. It's just like this is living
Speaker 1: around here, like you're just kind of asking for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Unfortunately, all right, last case, Okay, Five families are
Speaker 2: suing the Alabama prison system and UAB Medical Center, claiming
Speaker 2: their loved ones organs were stolen after autopsies. So the
Speaker 2: families say their loved ones were serving time at either
Speaker 2: Limestone Correctional Facility or Hamilton Aged and infirm Center when
Speaker 2: they died, and all of their autopsies were performed at
Speaker 2: UAB Medical Center, and then when the bodies were sent
Speaker 2: to the funeral homes after the autopsies, their organs were
Speaker 2: missing all right.
Speaker 1: So I could kind of explain what happened here because
Speaker 1: I think one of the places that I used to
Speaker 1: work had a similar lawsuit for for a reason like this.
Speaker 1: But when you when you die, you have to get
Speaker 1: an autopsy if you die in custody. Anytime a person
Speaker 1: dies in custody, and then that would be considered one
Speaker 1: that's under jurisdiction of like corner Medical Examiner system because
Speaker 1: that so they're the ones that are in charge of
Speaker 1: ordering the autopsy, whereas like at a hospital, the family
Speaker 1: would be in charge of signing a permission form to
Speaker 1: do the autopsy. So if you if I'm in jail
Speaker 1: right and I die, I'm going to go get an autopsy.
Speaker 1: They're not going to call you and ask you if
Speaker 1: it's it's okay, because it's under it's it's under the
Speaker 1: legal system, you don't really have a right to that
Speaker 1: when it body goes. So I used to work at
Speaker 1: an educational academic university hospital system when we would do
Speaker 1: the permission forms and we did the autopsies. If it
Speaker 1: was a full autopsy, we said that we were allowed
Speaker 1: to keep the organs. And the reason that we do
Speaker 1: is because so for for the brain autopsy, for example,
Speaker 1: especially if you have like neuropathology attached to it. When
Speaker 1: you take out the brain, you don't cut it right away.
Speaker 1: You put it in a formaldehyde mixture and you let
Speaker 1: it sit for like a week or two until it
Speaker 1: gets really really hard, and then a neuropathologist will cut
Speaker 1: it in thin slices and they'll look at it with
Speaker 1: a bunch of medical students and pathology residents. And that's
Speaker 1: really the best way to look at the anatomy and
Speaker 1: to teach. It's a teaching hospital, right, Well, the family's
Speaker 1: never going to get the brain back like because we
Speaker 1: keep it to do that. It does help too with
Speaker 1: the diagnosis for sure, but it's like that's kind of
Speaker 1: the thing when you're at a teaching institute. And the
Speaker 1: same thing with saving organs, like we would we always
Speaker 1: save pieces of organs just in case we ever have
Speaker 1: to go back to something. But if somebody has some
Speaker 1: like really cool pathology or something like, we would keep
Speaker 1: it aside, like, oh, this person's got TB, like you'll
Speaker 1: never see that again. Let's put that long aside, so
Speaker 1: we could show med students and things like that. So
Speaker 1: I think they're just kind of you know, the funeral
Speaker 1: home gets the body and there's no brain. Well guess
Speaker 1: what like that that happens in most autopsies, Like the
Speaker 1: brain doesn't just go back with them all the time,
Speaker 1: because I mean all the autopsies I've done, honestly, like
Speaker 1: I've never put the brain back.
Speaker 2: Sorry if this is a stupid question, but like if
Speaker 2: if the funeral homes in theory are getting the bodies
Speaker 2: sewn back up, how do they know there's no organs
Speaker 2: in them?
Speaker 1: So they have to open them up anyway like we
Speaker 1: sew them up at just so they don't leak in
Speaker 1: the car and stuff on the way to the funeral home.
Speaker 1: But they have to embalm them, so they have to
Speaker 1: open them up and access to their carotid arteries to
Speaker 1: embalm them. Okay, obviously the circulatory system is disrupted because
Speaker 1: everything in the middle is gone, so they have to
Speaker 1: do it. They could still embomb the head though through
Speaker 1: the carotid arteries and they'll find like the break your
Speaker 1: arteries to do the arms and stuff. But so when
Speaker 1: you do it in another kind of like a like
Speaker 1: a community hospital setting, you would put the organs back
Speaker 1: in like a big biohazard bag or something, and then
Speaker 1: you would put them in and they would treat the
Speaker 1: organs because if you just left them inside there, they
Speaker 1: would decompose and it would smell terrible. So they have
Speaker 1: to kind of open up and see what's going on
Speaker 1: in there. But even when I worked at a community hospital,
Speaker 1: we would still save the brain aside for it to
Speaker 1: fix for a couple of weeks before cutting it. So
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of times people like
Speaker 1: look for these loopholes to do these lawsuits and to
Speaker 1: make drama when it's like it nobody's nobody's like keeping them,
Speaker 1: to sell them to the black market or something. It's
Speaker 1: like you're just keep you're keeping them because of whatever reason, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I guess they I guess they have to
Speaker 2: make sure that's what's going on, which is why the
Speaker 2: lawsuits and.
Speaker 1: I think, like the the thing is is that the
Speaker 1: weird thing is that they're not signing permission for it.
Speaker 1: But like I think you lose those rights when you're
Speaker 1: in prison and you you have to get the forensic autopsy.
Speaker 1: It's just like if you get murdered. Like if I
Speaker 1: got murdered and went to the Camden County Medical Examiner's
Speaker 1: office or something, you call them up and say I
Speaker 1: really don't want my mom to have an autopsy, Please
Speaker 1: don't do it. They're gonna be like, yeah, we're doing it,
Speaker 1: like you don't have a choice. Whereas if I die
Speaker 1: in the hospital, you you are the one that decides
Speaker 1: if I get an autopsy. If you don't want one,
Speaker 1: then I don't get one.
Speaker 2: So even if people have religious reasons, they're gonna do
Speaker 2: it anyway.
Speaker 1: They will do it anyway. But they tried to respect,
Speaker 1: Like if you call them, we're screaming and crying, and
Speaker 1: let's say I got shot in the chest and said,
Speaker 1: please just don't take out a brain, don't mess up
Speaker 1: her hair. Like people have all different excuse is why
Speaker 1: they don't want their family member to go on autopsy.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they might say, okay, we won't take out the
Speaker 1: brain because like, really, we know she got shot in
Speaker 1: the chest, so like we don't need to, but they
Speaker 1: legally they can be like, no, we're doing it. We
Speaker 1: don't care. And yeah, like religious reasons all the time,
Speaker 1: like people people get shot all the time, and most
Speaker 1: religions aren't opposed to autopsy. It's more of like the
Speaker 1: burial time and stuff. So so yeah, like when it
Speaker 1: comes to the law, like you don't really have a choice,
Speaker 1: although people try to respect as much as possible but
Speaker 1: still get their job done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll keep an eye on this and then
Speaker 2: see how it turns out. So onto questions of the day.
Speaker 2: Every Friday, ask us a question on the at Mother
Speaker 2: Knows Death Instagram. You could ask us whatever you want.
Speaker 2: We put a little graphic in our story usually around
Speaker 2: Friday morning, and then you could ask away. So, first,
Speaker 2: do families request to do cultural rituals before an autopsy
Speaker 2: is performed.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, because that would be something
Speaker 1: you would probably ask a nurse that deals with patients
Speaker 1: that die a lot, because once the body comes to
Speaker 1: us and is in the refrigerator, we don't we don't
Speaker 1: see anybody doing cultural religious things. But I'm sure when
Speaker 1: someone dies, like the priest comes in or whatever like whatever,
Speaker 1: that's like a common thing. But that's not anything that
Speaker 1: that we that I've ever had to deal with anyway.
Speaker 2: How do you feel when people go under general anesthesia
Speaker 2: to get a ton of tattoos? Do people do that?
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: Maybe if they get ridiculous?
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: If you even use that numbing gel, like, I just
Speaker 1: think it's the most ridiculous thing in the world. It's
Speaker 1: it's like defeats the purpose of getting what tattoos have
Speaker 1: always been about. I just not I'm not a fan
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, I don't understand, like it's not necessary
Speaker 2: in my opinion, to put your body through all of that.
Speaker 1: But what I mean, yeah, like don't get a tattoo
Speaker 1: then if you don't want to deal with it.
Speaker 2: Who's doing that? Though? Like who's even giving somebody anesthesia
Speaker 2: so that they can get tattooed like that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. But is it a thing I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I don't know, or is it just like even I
Speaker 1: have heard of people doing like injections of lytocane or
Speaker 1: something or no, yeah, lytocane like rather than the topic
Speaker 1: you know, so they use the topical cream. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I've heard people doing and like local injections, So
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if a paramedic or a
Speaker 1: nurse would be allowed to do that. I just I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just think it's it's like, if you
Speaker 1: can't handle the pain, then don't get it. It's just
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, isn't that the point? I just whatever?
Speaker 2: All right? Last favorite childhood memory, I'd say.
Speaker 1: Probably like going on vacations with my family and stuff.
Speaker 1: That was pretty cool. We took road trips a lot
Speaker 1: that was really fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say i'd say the same. I don't feel
Speaker 2: like I have like a particular day, you know, that's
Speaker 2: in my head, But I feel like generally I had
Speaker 2: a really good childhood, So I don't nothing stands out
Speaker 2: in particular, which I think is a better thing.
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. I was gonna say
Speaker 1: that I always, uh, I always talk about this with Gabe,
Speaker 1: that I that I think that the best sign of
Speaker 1: having a really good childhood is that you really can't
Speaker 1: pick out a specific day because.
Speaker 2: Like every day was pretty good. Yeah, that's how That's
Speaker 2: exactly how I feel about it, Like I I definitely
Speaker 2: know I was happy on trips, you know. I think
Speaker 2: about that time we went to Florida to stay at
Speaker 2: doctor Wood's house, and I think, yeah, that trip that
Speaker 2: wasn't really a child, I was like fourteen. That was like,
Speaker 2: that was a really good trip. But then there was
Speaker 2: like the rat and everything. Well that's why I think
Speaker 2: it's a good We have good vacation stories for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because there was the rat in Louis's room, and then
Speaker 2: it's where we got pop up saying what's that noise
Speaker 2: from the seatbelt thing going off in the car, So
Speaker 2: we always say that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, these muscles, sandy, are they that?
Speaker 1: Oh you're from that trip too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these we were.
Speaker 1: We went on some like like a side of the
Speaker 1: road like clamshack, and my dad ordered muscles and he
Speaker 1: says to the he says to the waitress, Hey, these
Speaker 1: ain't sandy, are they. It was hilarious. We're like, Dad,
Speaker 1: please don't talk like that in public.
Speaker 2: Ever. Yeah, Like I guess most of my favorite memories
Speaker 2: are like we are a family of huge ballbusters. So
Speaker 2: that's a lot of the times I think about as
Speaker 2: making fun of each other, Yeah, totally all right. Guys, Well,
Speaker 2: thank you so much. We'll see you next week.
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