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It's 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.520 about the grinders and what life looks like for people 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:47.920 not flying in private plants. Um. So this week's episode, 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.200 Matt joined us Michael Allen myself and we talked John 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:56.520 ram in his domination. We obviously talked Tiger Uh. He 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.560 was the biggest story of the week despite Ron's Rom's 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:04.360 dominant u Uh. We talked Bernhard Longer in his dominance 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:09.040 on the Champions Tour. And so another great conversation with 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.720 a lot of great stories from everybody. I mean, it's 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.840 everything that I love about the Fire Drill. It's the 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:20.320 four of us talking golf. Here we go that do 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:28.160 my head can't get jan Nothing think what I'm thinking about. 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:33.160 That can't get him. Now, Jen not to think what 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:43.240 I'm thinking about. Hello, this is Alan ship Knuck back 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.720 for another Fire Drill podcast, as always, joined by Michael 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.080 Bamberger and Ryan French, and today we have the pleasure 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:54.320 of Matt Janella joining us. We have Philadelphia, ocean side, 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:56.920 and the heartland of America covered and I'm here in 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.240 northern California, so we've all been tuned to to the 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:05.480 final round at Riviera. John Ram is a monster. He's 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.560 the Master's favorite. He's the clear number one in the world, 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.520 no matter what some dumb math formulas says. Um command 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.360 performance by John Ram? Uh, what do we I mean, 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.200 we're talking about this guy all year. He seems like 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.320 he's winning every week. But uh, Riviera is a place 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.079 where Tiger Woods never won or Jack Nicholas and Ram 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.760 actually mentioned that he was aware of that unusual statistic 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.119 and uh said to be meaningful to pick one off here. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.600 It's an elevated event. There's all these different layers to this. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.359 But what do you guys think of this performance in 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:45.720 this victory long past? Uh? The I mean, the guy 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:52.079 is ridiculous it's it's like, I mean, I he's how 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.040 is he not the favorite every time he tees it up? 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.639 And no matter what course it is, I mean, he's Uh. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.480 There was a lot of debate on this show, on 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.799 this podcast on others of like is camp Smith is 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.000 John Ram? The best player in the world right now 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.600 is Max Homa uh alst general, the dude is ridiculously 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:14.480 good and uh a stone cold killer and complains more 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.959 than any best offer in the world I've ever seen 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:22.440 in my life. That's part of his charm. You know. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.880 If we don't get to see cam Smith playing on 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:29.200 the PGA Tour anymore, if he were, he possibly give 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.160 this guy a run for his money. But lacking that, uh, 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.040 we don't have him. I mean this camp Smith makes 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.400 puts from everywhere and uh probably puts better and chips 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:41.640 better and pitches better than anybody in the game. Uh. 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.080 So it's kind of really hard to know. Uh. It 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.600 was a wonderful tournament. It's a great dis super Viera. Uh, 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.400 but it kind of does make you miss some of 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.120 the some of the people who aren't in the field. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.120 I'm not taking a single thing away from John Ram, uh, 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.760 but it is a little Yeah, he's the runaway best 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:01.760 call from the Putriot Tour right now. But the putret 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:06.400 Tour is missing some big talents. That's a good point, Matt. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:12.119 What do you think, Well, I think it's it's Rom. 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.840 I think, you know, Ram has proven himself to be 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.440 the guy who to go to to get to number one, 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.040 you've got to go through Rom and Scottie Scheffler went 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.280 through Rom to get there. And I think other players 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:26.680 are going to try to to compete with him, but 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.800 it's it's it's his for the taking and keeping for 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.120 the foreseeable future. He's going you know, I don't think 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.599 there's going to be this long chunk of time where 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:40.680 John Ram isn't able to perform at a very high level, 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.599 regardless of the course, regardless of the conditions of the course, 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.560 set up of the course, whether it's a major and 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:52.599 elevated event, Ryder Cup. He's a beast. He you know, 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.760 he's his focus is being number one and being the 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.200 greatest of all time and winning as many you know, 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:08.080 like he's a product of Sevy Tiger technology, you know, athleticism, 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:12.000 he's got, He's got everything and and and a focus. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.920 I've told this story recently on one of these podcasts 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.960 of adjacent day event and everyone's partying and frattonizing and 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.400 having fun, and all he was doing was just hitting shots, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.200 competing against himself or competing against anybody wanting to compete 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:32.200 against him. He's he's built for this and and I 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.840 just don't see him, you know, letting go of that 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.920 wheel anytime, since it's gonna be fun to watch. I mean, 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:43.040 that's a great point because Rory his for a while now, 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.640 has seemed ambivalent about uh, you know, he wants he 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.599 wants to de emphasize results and not let them define him. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:54.560 And he wants to you know, be uh an ambassador 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.039 and a statesman and a dad and a husband and 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:01.520 you know, a book critic. It seems like sometimes golfers 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.960 way down the list for him, and a brand builder 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.040 and a visionary and an a venture capitalist and all 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.560 these things. Rom just wants to win tournaments. He wants 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.239 to be number one. Like his life is simple and 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.960 um as you say, Matt like he he he doesn't 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:19.279 try and hide from it. He's he's very open with 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.479 his ambition, and I think that frees him up, you know, 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.560 where Roy is almost conflicted, like, oh, it's golf too important. 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.040 And uh, for Ram it's like it's it's the sun 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.800 and the moon for him. And that's what I like. 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.600 I mean that it's always frustrating when you have a 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.240 massive talent who doesn't chase it as hard as they 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.240 could write in any sport um and sometimes Roy it 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.719 feels that way Rory, but with Rom it's like, just 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.200 bring it on, man. He wants it every week. And 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:44.880 to me, I mean that's why I love and a 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:50.480 great athlete. Alan. Where is Rom with he still managed 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:55.560 by Steve Layers any? Yes? And does Lloyd still managed Phil? Yes? 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.920 And what what are the other relationships there? He's he's 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.560 good friends who hills her? And yeah, yeah, I mean 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.599 Tim Mickelson was Rom's agent until he decided to become 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.880 Phil's full time caddy. And I mean I asked Rom 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.520 about this not that long ago, and uh, I guess 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.880 it was in Cappalua and he said, he's still friends 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.520 with Phil. You know, they they'll still play recreational golf. 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.520 He still respects him. They just have a strong disagreement on, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.600 you know, where to make their living. But you know 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.040 one thing that's been impressive about Rom is in this 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.840 very um acrimonious time for professional golf. He's been a 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:37.840 voice of reason and and you know, gentleness, and he's 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:42.000 been conciliatory. You know, he's he he it's been genuine 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.000 from him where he said, you know, I wish we 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.000 could all be together. I'd like these guys on the 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.440 Ryder Cup team. And I was just talking to a 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:53.920 a live golfer who must remain anonymous unfortunately, and he 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.320 was basically like funk Rory, like that guy. Were so 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.360 tired of his sanctimony. But Ram Rom's cool, you know, 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:01.120 I seem around He's really cool to all of us. 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.240 I thought it was it was just that's the feeling 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.400 a lot of the guys on that tour. Um. You know, 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.720 the Ram is as state above the fray, even as 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.040 he's you know, been a strong advocate for the tour 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.120 and he's he's you know, he's his his his allegiance 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.880 to the tour, his fealty to the tour has been 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.000 very important. But um, he's managed to very to walk 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.680 a very fine line where he can still say nice 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.440 things about to live guys. You can still hope that 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.760 we can put the game back together. And and I 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.880 think he's kind of been elevating all this as as 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:34.480 just a voice of reason. He's sort of Dustin Johnson 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.240 like in that regard, one might say Dustin Johnson is 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.720 to America with John ram is too to to Europe. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.480 You know, just sort of people like him, even though 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:47.640 uh they don't resent his talent and uh, you know, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.960 and he just walks a fine line of being honest 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.240 and standing for golf, which there's not a lot of 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.440 that right now. Yeah. No, nobody has shown really any 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.400 any ill will towards Dustin for going to live, which 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.200 is amazing. But part of it is because he very 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.160 publicly resigned his PGA tour membership in the in the beginning, 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.640 and he didn't sign on to the lawsuits. And that's 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.040 why a lot of the tour guys been bitter because 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.080 they're getting sued by their ex colleagues and and they 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:16.560 feel like a lot of them and they wanted both ways. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.200 They want to play in the FedEx Cup, they want this, 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.920 they want that. You know, Dustin has never asked for 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.000 any of that. He's he's always just said, hey man, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:26.800 I took the money, I'm having fun and um, and 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.720 he's he's made his position very clear. So I think 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.720 you're right. No one's mad at at Rom, no one's 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.480 mad at Dustin. Everyone else is kind of caught in 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.040 the shrapnel. But Ryan, have you ever had a chance 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.480 to get to a riviera? I did. Uh. I candied 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.760 for Mark in a pro am last year. Uh. For 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.920 those that are listening that don't know, there's a lot 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.520 of pro ams that happened that are not associated with 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.840 the like the actual Wednesday program that most people know. So, Uh, 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.960 there's a lot of pros that get paid to Mark. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:03.040 I got paid three to thousand dollars and uh, and 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:08.199 we Mark and I talked about it this week. Is uh. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.320 I mean it just shows the top players how good 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.280 they are. I think Mark shot like one hunder or 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.560 something like that, and he like hit it. That course 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.880 is so hard and like to think that whatever he 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:24.400 finished that it's just ridiculous. The place was ridiculously good. 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.120 So for the for the three of you guys, and 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.520 so all four of us have been there, and I'm 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.560 sure Matt Nollen uh like you've probably been there lots 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:37.520 over the years. Uh. What do you think of the course? Uh? 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.319 And there's a lot of ways to say this is 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.120 the start of the PGA Tour, but getting to Riviera 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:48.160 is a staple of the PGA Tour season. What what 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:49.920 was it like for you guys seeing the golf course 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.400 on TV? Go ahead, Matt, and I know you have 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:57.120 some feelings on this. No, I mean, I love the 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.520 golf course. I love I love the tournament. I love 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:08.280 how it separates players who are playing great from players 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:12.440 who are not playing great. You know, over four days, 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.920 you know, four rounds, all the different shots you have 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.880 to do, you have to hit, all the different great 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.600 iron shots you have to hit. Where you miss matters, 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:28.080 I mean in so many way, shapes and forms. Um. 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:32.480 I just it's Golden Age, Golden Age architecture at its finest. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.400 It's it gets lauded by the by the architectural geeks, 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.440 but it also gets appreciated by people who just love 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.920 love great golf. It gets, you know, gets it's got 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.480 respect from the greatest players of the game, from the 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:53.840 modern day architects. It's marveled for. It's marveled at for 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.400 all the right reasons. I love. You know, it's got 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:01.400 controversial or you know, the tenth hole, it's elf creates 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:06.840 so much great debate. Um, and you know, Home averting 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:13.200 it all four days. Of course he did because he appreciates, understands, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:19.800 you know, respects great architecture, strategy. He's a thinking you know, 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.920 he's a thinker out there on the golf course. You know, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:29.400 I just I love Rivera. You know, I think Daniel 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.840 Rapp report said, oh, this is the greatest course of 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.840 the PGA Tour season, and there's not a close second. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.680 I disagree with that. I think just at the A 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.200 T and T, you have three golf courses that are 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.640 in the conversation whether or not you think pebbles better 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.640 than Rivera, or Spyglass is better than Pebble, or Monterey 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:51.000 Peninsula Shore is in the conversation. I think they're in 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.679 the conversation. I I love Rivera for all that it provides, 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.480 um and and I wish we had more of it 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.079 on the tour where it's not necessarily just about like 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.360 brute strength and length and you have to move it 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.040 right and left and long and short. UM. I think 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:14.040 it's it is. It's a fabulous venue. Thankfully we get 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.319 to see the best players play it. It's a private 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.600 golf course, not a lot of us, of any of 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.559 us whatever us is gets to play it. So it's 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.680 fun to watch it and and and and enjoy it 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:29.559 every every year. I agree with every word of that. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:33.160 But you know, watching today the you know the fourth 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.520 hold that that very damn part three. You know, only 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:40.040 fourteen percent in the field actually in regulation and it's 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:42.040 just a bad hole. They got to redo that green, 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:43.760 Like you can't have a part three, but no one 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:48.560 can hold the green and so that's a little blemish. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.920 And ten, I mean I've always you say, Fort Dollan, 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.920 did you say fourteen percent of the players hit that green? Yeah, 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.000 that's a joke. I mean that Shinka kills level joke. Yeah, 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.840 And I mean that that's on that's a mis factor. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.400 That's a modern day green speed. But you know, and 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.040 things have to be things have to evolve and adjust 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.000 and maybe they look at those numbers say okay, we 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.680 have to adjust it. You know, a tweak there would 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.400 be very helpful. Even the problem with ten is that 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:17.000 the green has gotten so extreme. I mean, what's great 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.480 about a a drive all part four is you can 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.920 actually drive the green, right, nobody can drive the green there. 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.320 It's impossible to hold it. So then the smart play 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.360 like is just to lay it up out there to 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.760 the left, and it's basically now like a fifty yard 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.880 Part three. You just laid up a little short left, 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.640 you pitch it on and okay, but but hold let 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:38.080 me just stop you there for a second, because if 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.000 you say it's a drivable part four, maybe it's not 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.680 a drivable far it's just a short for short for 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.280 doesn't mean it's drivable. Just because it's short doesn't mean 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:51.360 you should be able to actually drive it, I guess, 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:55.360 But I mean people used to try, and but now 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.920 it's just like the penalty that it's so extreme around 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.960 that green if you're if you're out of position, you 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.280 can easily make a six. And so the plays become 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:06.600 more and more just to go out there to the 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.360 left and just kind of pitch it on and um. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.040 So I think you're right. I mean, you're right. MAT's 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.720 how you define it. But if you if you're twenty 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:17.400 years ago, it was a drive all part four and 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.720 people try to drive it, and you could drive it, 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.880 and and now it's just like, I don't know, I 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.520 think that you talk about evolution because of the equipment 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.400 and everything else. I think that hole is evolved for 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.720 the worst so that's my look, complaint Riviera. You have 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.800 two holes that are very borderline, and it's it's it's 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.560 a fun debate. I threw out there on Twitter today 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.960 and a bunch of people wrote back saying, that's why 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:40.640 I love it. You know, the game's too easy for 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:42.800 these guys. I want them to be and I'll give 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:44.400 you Alan, I'll give you a three I'll give you 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.920 a third hole. How about eighteen was slatoris and driver 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:52.160 in a sandwich? You know that's a joke. I know 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.560 it's I remember I remember um Robert Allen be hitting 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.360 a forward in there to win a playoff back in 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.720 the day in the nineties, Like that's not really raining, 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.320 and there was like nine it was a little chilly. Nevertheless, 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:08.440 I mean I put out a tweet about ten that 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:12.520 I don't have an opinion because I saw I saw 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:19.880 so many articles, tweets, uh, long form deep dives. I 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.120 was just like, I just like everybody to know I 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:26.440 have no opinion about number ten. I don't know, it's fun. 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.840 It's just all did you console with Jeff Ogilvie's mother 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.200 And I just was like, hey, you know what, I 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:38.040 don't care about number fourteen. At Detroit Country Club. You 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.160 know why, I just don't care about it. I just don't. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.520 That's totally valid. I mean, it's the ultimate first world 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:49.520 problem that seventy eight articles about a fucking Paul Just 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:53.280 can we just move on with it? A right? We can? 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.600 Or make it too or make a nine and let's 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.880 go to the eleventh hole. Okay, eleven is a great 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.360 by the way. I mean, I love that, right, you're 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:06.760 absolutely right, But it does speak to something larger about how, 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.040 you know, we've got these ancient playing fields that are 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.520 a hundred years old or more. They're the most beloved 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.919 courses we have. And to Michael's point about you know, 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.119 flip wedges in the eighteen, I mean, as the game 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.040 is always evolving, and of course, like ruviea is hemmed in, 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.440 they can't they can't, they can't stretch it at all. 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.600 I mean, there's nowhere to go. And so it brings 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.639 up these larger points about the equipment, about the U. 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.440 S J Being asleep at the wheel, and it makes 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.640 you know, it makes you wonder about the you know, 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.919 the feutre like I mean, and Riviera is now this 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.840 is even more relevant because it's gonna host the Olympics. Um, 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.200 it's got a lot of big time. It's got the 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.439 US Women's Open coming, like it's on a it's going 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.879 to be a stage, like that's one of the elite 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.040 and the entire sport. And so if it's being compromised 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.240 by all these different factors, it's it demands a little examination, 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:02.480 to your point. So an interesting thing about Tenant Revere 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.280 and I can't believe I'm gonna say this because I 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.800 just said I don't care about it, and I'm why 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:12.240 I care about him. I don't care. But but one 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.320 thing Scott Foss that for those that don't know decade, 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.840 like he kind of changed the game, Like everybody used 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.199 to lay up or a large majority of players used 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.240 to lay up on that whole and then he did 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.080 all the shot link thing, and it's like it plays 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.720 a half a stroke easier if you go at the green, 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:29.200 and now everybody goes at the green. And now it 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.440 might have changed this year, but like it's crazy what 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:36.760 modern technology not only on the course but off the course, 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.560 Like no one had access to every single shot and 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:45.000 what that player made from that spot. And so Scott 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.120 Foss said, is like, hey, here's the facts. Like, if 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.840 you go at the green, you're going to make it 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.480 half a stroke less over four days. Then if you 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.959 lay up, that's not you know, he's made effectual. So 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:02.159 the technology that avancements are not just the club in 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.119 the ball, it's access to those numbers that make the 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:10.280 decision mathematical. That's a fantastic point. I mean, it also 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.240 speaks to how hard that green is it Guys laying 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.160 up to a sand wed, you know, full sing swing 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:17.680 sand wed, like they can't even hold the green from 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.800 eight yards or whatever. So it's it's an interesting debate 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.000 that we don't have to continue any further, but it's 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.400 an an annual one. I think we should. I'd really 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:30.359 like to hear more one. Just kidding, all right, we well, 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.080 no disrespect to John rom but in some at least 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.040 Thursday and Friday, i'd say the star of and possibly 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:38.800 even Saturday when you played great, the star of the 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:42.560 week was the host Tiger Woods. And you know, his 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:45.000 his first time at a at a real tournament, uh 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:51.640 in quite a while, and uh you know he grounded out. Unfortunately, 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.119 he's over par on Sunday, which is continues his trend. 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.840 Where as the week goes on, he just he just 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:00.280 loses vigor and and and it's more more of a 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.600 struggle with his with his ankle and his his leg 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.960 and his body. And so there was just enough flashes 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.399 there where you know, it looks like Tiger Woods can 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:12.399 still play golf. But for him to walk, you know, 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:17.439 thirty miles across four days and all the preparation that 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.440 needs to be tournaments sharp, you know that. I think 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.639 it's an open question. But Michael, you wrote a very 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.199 insightful piece on fire Pit Collective dot com ahead of 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:30.080 the tournament um and one of the takeaways was, you know, 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:32.719 it's Tiger Woods. You can never underestimate him, so be careful, 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.520 do so at your own peril. But what what did 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.480 you make of his performance? It had so much the 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:43.040 performance more just looking at the man, where he is 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.600 in his life and how much he still needs competitive 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:49.320 golf in his life, because like Michael Jordan's and many 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.600 others that we've seen over the years, it's really his 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:57.000 defined his life. And uh, he he is a tremendous philanthropist. 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:59.560 You know, I'm sure all of us have have read 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:01.639 a lot of about what he's done, and he seems 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.480 to be very devoted to his to his kids and 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:08.480 putting architecture, business and all the rest. But he's a 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:12.840 competitive golfer. Forty seven is not old today if you 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:17.439 haven't had all the setbacks to your body that the 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:21.800 Tiger has had. So it's it's kind of actually heartbreaking 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:25.040 to see how important it is to him, but it's 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:28.600 also just part and parcel of the life of the athlete, 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:33.840 in this particular athlete, I think it's it's. Uh, I 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.560 don't see an easy path forward for him to be 0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.359 really truthful about it. I don't. I don't know what 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.480 really is going to bring deep meaning to his life 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:47.320 because this is probably pretty much as good as he 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:51.600 can play right now. I mean, after that deep thought, 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.639 what do I do? What are you following that up with? 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:57.760 But uh, it is I think it. I just wrote 0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:02.840 an article. I love Tiger for different reasons, and I'll 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.840 take it from a different perspective, like he's just such 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.760 an icon in the game. The guy barely made the 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.159 cut for most of the day Friday was outside the 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:19.159 cut um and he is always the needle and whatever 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:22.800 tour he's on he is going to is going to 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:27.280 be the tour that people want to be on. And 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:30.280 and no matter what, this, whether it's realistic or not, 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.800 today gives everyone hope that in April he can win 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:39.520 the Masters again and then we'll all be locked in 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:41.800 and he changes the game. That's all there is to it. 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.359 Like I tweeted jokingly, like I took a picture of 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:48.160 he was one below the cut line. It's like, hey, all, 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.560 you guys are playing for a lot of money because 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:52.920