WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Can This Happen? 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:21.639 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:25.360 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.720 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:35.080 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:45.160 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys, 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.920 welcome back to Cowboys Break presented by Geico. I'm in Burgarcia. 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:54.080 I'm joined by David Hellman, Nick Eatman, and then of 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.520 course Derek is still here with us, but I will 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.880 be driving the bus today the car because Derek is 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.360 still flushing out some stuff out of his system today 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:08.319 because of his wild birthday party last night, So we 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:12.920 don't want any DWI is happening. They'll stay on your record, Derek, 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:18.280 I got it under control. Birthday last night. Oh it 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.160 was good. I had I had a really good time. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.480 We didn't go anywhere now, so there was no potential 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.720 for DWI. I was at home with my family, but 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.400 we had a very very nice evening and my wife 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.399 and kids made it very special for me, so it 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:36.880 was good. That's okay. Well, we got a very special 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.320 show today because We're about to talk about the Cowboys 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.040 making it to the super Bowl, and that starts about 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:48.080 this weekend. What happens this weekend with the NFC East. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:52.040 So with the first question for you guys, we know 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.800 what's happening with Washington currently with the quarterback position, Well 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.040 we kind of know what's happening there, but with the 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.880 Eagles being officially eliminated for the playoff, rons Ken Washington 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:13.200 actually lose against the Eagles, I mean, hell yeah. If anything, 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.600 the last like two or three weeks have reminded us 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.320 that this is an insane league. And I'm not even 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.639 talking about the Cowboys winning three games in a row. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.480 The New York Jets are on a two game winning 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:27.840 streak right now, and like not against terrible teams either. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.839 They beat the Rams and the Browns, both of whom 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.920 might be in the playoffs. So yeah, it's totally possible. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:39.160 I actually I read this morning Jim Schwartz, I guess 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.799 spoke to the Philadelphia media and he said he said 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.760 this is a no hat game, which is to say, 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:48.600 we don't want anybody wearing hats on our field, meaning 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.240 if Washington were to clinch the division, obviously they would 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.760 pass around hats and T shirts. You know, we'll see 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.919 what happens. But I think there's something to be said 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.520 for being the spoiler, Like if you can ruin your 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.560 rivals season, that's worth getting up for. So I mean, 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:08.440 I absolutely expect Philly to come out trying to ruin 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.760 their season because it's all they can do. And uh, yeah, 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.840 I absolutely think that's possible. Yeah. I mean, if you 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:19.320 look back at the last few games, and actually the 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.919 teams that have have lost to the Cowboys are four 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.480 and one this year. In the next week and then 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.720 including four in a row, and if the Falcons, I believe, 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.639 blew another lead against the Bears after they beat are 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.480 lost to the Cowboys, where it would be all five. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.160 But everybody that's lost to the Cowboys, the Bengals, the 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.000 forty nine ers, what do you think that means? I 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.680 don't know, if anything, I want to I mean, it's 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.800 not like a huge sample size, it's just a few, 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:46.000 but I don't know. I mean that they're still playing. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.960 I mean, the Bengals are what are they playing for? 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.200 You know? And then they're winning games and stuff. So yeah, 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.480 I mean I think I think the Sunday night thing 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.080 actually helps you know, it's a it's a Sunday night 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.760 game that I think they want to see. The NFL 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:01.360 wants to see more of Jalen Hurts. Sounds so yeah, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.280 I think I think that they certainly can win this 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.560 game in Washington's going the wrong direction. Yeah, I'm gonna 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.920 I'm gonna steal one of your sayings, Nick, because I 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.360 think it's so apt. Here is that you look at 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.000 these teams and they're gonna show up Sunday. They're gonna 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.200 show up ready to play Sunday. The question is how 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:21.359 much are they showing up on Wednesday and Thursday of 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.159 this week to prepare for that game, like when you're 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.920 out of it. That's where you start testing the professionalism 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.240 of a team. You know, are they willing to put 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.480 in the same amount of time preparing as they would 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.440 if they were playing for something this weekend? And that's 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.840 where you get a little bit worried. But the flip 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.800 side to that is these are division teams. They know 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.320 each other extremely well. That's the thing about playing in 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.919 the division. You know them really well. The prep time 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:47.440 that you have to spend on getting to know that 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.680 guy that's across from you, it's probably a little less 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.240 that week because you know them really well. You've played 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.280 them twice a year for who knows how many years, 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.400 so that does help in this situation. But I do 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.440 wonder how much they're going to be preparing this week. 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:00.440 How much extra time are they gonna put in to 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.559 get ready for this game where normally they might spend 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.880 some time there. Well, Washington's culture was that their starting 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.120 quarterback was at the strip club after a game, so 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:09.920 what's there? You know, and they were still in it 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:14.360 trying to win. He's gone, he man, that was their culture. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.200 I will which although you know, bringing up Dwayne Haskins, 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.719 it sounds like Alex Smith has a good chance to 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.440 start Sunday, So I mean, that's good news for Washington. 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.400 But you're right, Derek, like this this is a test 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.680 of your professionalism. But the fun thing is, like you 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.520 or if you are a professional, if you're good at 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.640 your job, like you should always be able to find 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.839 a reason. I already mentioned like playing spoiler, but think 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.760 about regardless of who starts for Philly, I assume it 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.720 would be Jalen Hurts, but maybe it's Carson Wentz. Either way, 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.839 that's a hell of an opportunity for the starting quarterback 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.599 to put his best foot forward. You know, Jalen Hurts 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.279 is auditioning for a chance to be the starting quarterback 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.440 and Philly moving forward, if it were Carson wins, that 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.000 is a huge opportunity for him to play a great 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.799 game and say I'm still the guy. Y'all are crazy 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.400 for trying to get rid of me. So at the 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.720 very least, the most important player on the team, whoever 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.040 he is, has a lot of reasons to want to 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.480 play well. Yeah, and I mean that goes across the board, yep. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.360 And ironically, although it probably it may not even be 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.080 the case, there are there are people who think that 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.080 their head coach is on the hot seat, and so 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.760 he also has a reason to get his team ready 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:29.919 to play and go out and win this game. And 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:35.560 nobody likes seeing an opposing team in their facility brandishing 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.279 the championship hats. So there's a lot I think here 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.279 that if you want to find, like you said, Dave, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.040 if you want to find yourself reasons if you're a 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.000 member of the Eagles team, for why you want to 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.039 spend that extra time getting ready for this game and 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:50.960 why you want to give it You're all, there's lots 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.039 of reasons out there you can find to give it 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:58.320 everything you got, So would that eliminate this whole idea 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.400 of possibly the Eagles trying to lose? And I hate 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.320 saying this because I am a believer that every team 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.600 goes into a game wanting to win that game. But 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.120 I've seen a few questions from fans in regards to 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.760 that whole mentality that maybe the Eagles are trying to 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.400 lose in order to get a better draft pick. If 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.200 they were to lose or win, whichever one. I mean, Dave, 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.000 is there really a big difference there for them as 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.240 far as draft picks goes? Oh? Yeah, I mean there 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.440 absolutely is, because they're sixth right now, and if they 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.760 lose to Washington, you know, I don't know, I don't 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.840 know the tiebreakers for draft order off the top of 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.960 my head, but like it's conceivable that they could wind 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.080 up with a top five pick, and if they win, 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.560 they could probably jump as high as nine, ten, eleven, 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.040 depending on different results. So yeah, that definitely matters. And 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.400 I guarantee you there are a ton I would bet 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.640 the vast majority of the Philadelphia fan base wants the 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.880 Eagles to lose because they would probably rather Washington be 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.120 in the playoffs than Dallas, and b they want that 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.080 draft pick. But the thing is, it doesn't you know, 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:02.880 it doesn't matter what the fans want. That's what we've 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.800 said about the Cowboys tanking this entire time. Is maybe 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.160 Philly comes out flat and gets their ass kicked on 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.800 Sunday because they don't care. But that's not up to 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.680 the fans. And if I were on that team, like 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.880 I said, there's a million reasons, whether it's playtime incentives 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:21.080 in your contract, whether it's auditioning for a job next year, 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:24.760 whether it's personal pride, Like there's a million reasons for 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.680 the players themselves to want to play hard. So you know, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.960 draft order shouldn't matter to anybody that's actually in that 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:35.559 locker room. Yeah, and when you start looking at oh sorry, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.439 go ahead there. Well, I was just gonna say one 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.040 other thing that I think we should keep a note 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.040 on and keep the eyes on with regard to that 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.120 game is Terry McLaren. He missed the game last week, 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.760 and if you look at how this game matches up, 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.000 the reason why I think Dallas was so successful against 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.960 Philadelphias because they took advantage of the biggest weakness right 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.320 now Philly has, which is their secondary. They got so 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.480 many injuries there and Dallas really took advantage of it 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:00.920 without Terry McLaren in the line up. Even if you 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.480 get Alex Smith back, Like Alex Smith is not has 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.040 not been great. He's just a guy that's steady and 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.720 doesn't turn the ball over as much. Right So, even 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.640 if you even if you get him back and don't 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.800 get Terry mclarenback, I think they are severely limited in 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.959 being able to take advantage of a very compromised secondary. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.840 And that being said, I still think that this game 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:25.480 is very winnable, winnable for Philadelphia. Yeah, we know that 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:27.840 in the next few days we're going to get into 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:32.080 the Giants team and get into the breakdown there. But Nick, 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.959 right now, looking at this matchup, we both know that 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:40.520 both teams have a chance here to win. Who would 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.760 be the team between the two that has more to 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:48.160 lose if they were to lose this game this weekend? Um, 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.839 I don't know, more, good question, more to lose? I 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:57.520 would I would guess Dallas maybe would have more to 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:01.720 lose because they're going to be now. I take that back, 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.560 the Giants would have more to lose because because really 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.959 all you're losing is that you're losing draft spots, right, 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.600 so the Giants are going to have less of the drafts. 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:12.360 I mean, they're in a better position to have a 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.120 higher pick than the Cowboys because there are five and 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.240 ten right now, so I guess, you know, and if 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.840 they would win the game, and they win the NFC East, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.000 then they jump all the way to nineteen. So I 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.880 guess you would say that Giants would have more to lose. 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.040 And maybe I don't understand the question as much unless 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.880 it's just talking about about that, because it's an opportunity 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.600 for both teams, and both teams are in a situation 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.280 where they feel like they're going to be better next year. 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.840 They've got key players that were out and first year coaches, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.120 So I mean it's very similar. I think both teams, 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:49.280 that Giants and the Cowboys. I think it's with the 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:53.160 mentality of I see fans asking more. You know, when 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.200 we get towards the end of the year, and especially 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.560 with teams with like losing records, you start asking for Okay, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.320 who's the team that has the biggest motivation, the biggest 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.640 drive the biggest need to go in that game and 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.240 fight for something. So it's more in like that kind 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.240 of what I was trying to get out of here. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:17.120 You basically answered it. Go Dave, I were like trying 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:22.000 to read each other's facial expressions. I'll, i'll, I'll be 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.800 the bad guy here and say, like in the spirit 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.319 of your question, And I don't want to suggest that 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.400 this wouldn't mean a lot to the Cowboys, the coaches, 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.880 the players of the organization. I know that they would 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.040 really love to win this game and get into the playoffs, 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.640 but I think that probably means more to the Giants, 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.360 or would mean more to the Giants that this turn. 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.679 Just if you look at the makeup of these teams 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.000 right now, the Giants are trying to decide, you know, 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.560 is Daniel Jones their quarterback of the future. They have 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:54.960 all of players like I can't think of a player 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:58.160 on the Giants roster who has been there and done 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.360 that in terms of playoffs success, other than maybe like 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.319 Golden Tate. Other than that, you're talking about a team 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.400 full of guys who have never done it. You're talking 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.880 about a first year head coach talking about a team 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.720 that's been picking near the top of the draft for 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.520 three or four years. Meanwhile, like we all know, the 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.000 Cowboys haven't gotten as far as they want to. But 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.440 this team is full of maybe they know what. You know, 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.600 They've been part of successful seasons. They've been through the 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.680 wars of the NFL. You know, eight nine ten year veterans, 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.080 guys that have been to the divisional round. You know. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.760 Maybe this is famous last words, but I think that 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.160 I think that they have their quarterback of the future. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.959 I guess we'll see how that plays out. But and 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.240 the you know, Mike McCarthy and his whole coaching staff. 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:39.840 I mean, for the most part, those guys have done 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:42.120 it too. McCarthy's won a Super Bowl. A lot of 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.160 those guys have been head coaches. So I don't think 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.240 the Cowboys need that experience as much as the Giants 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:52.320 probably do. And I'll take the opposite approach. I look 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.640 at it more from the standpoint of the Giants right now. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:57.920 I think these are two teams that are going in 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:00.760 little different directions from the standpoint of just their last 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:04.200 three weeks. Cowboys have three wins under their belt here 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.320 in the last three weeks. The Giants have three losses. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.959 I think this final game, if the Giants were to 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.720 lose it, I don't think that really changes much about 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.559 how they enter the off season. I think if Dallas 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.720 loses it, I think it's a big difference than if 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.640 Dallas wins. Even if Dallas doesn't get into the playoffs, 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.760 I think a win this week gives them four in 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:23.880 a row. It gives them something. And I've been talking 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.880 about this for the last few weeks. I think there's 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.960 some value when you have a coaching staff that has 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.600 made some questionable decisions throughout the year. They've made some 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:35.000 controversial decisions throughout the year. I think there's some value 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:36.640 to being able to look in the eyes of the 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.920 players and say, look, what we've been telling you all 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.240 along is if you stay with us, if you stay 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.040 committed to what we're asking you to do, good things 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:46.400 will happen. And what we saw at the end of 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.680 the season was good things are happening. We're on a 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.640 four game winning streak, and so I think that's valuable 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.120 going into an off season and going into next season 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.240 for a team that you have a head coach and 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.360 a coaching staff that's only going to be hit in 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.880 the second year, they hopefully will get a little bit 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.560 more access and able to do more things this offseason 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.200 than they were able to do last. So I think 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.240 it's valuable to get this last win for the Cowboys, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.120 regardless of whether they get the playoffs or not. And 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.320 I think it's more important for them because of those 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:17.040 reasons than it is for the Giants. 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I think 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.760 that the more the week goes by, the more and 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.840 more we see a real possibility for the Cowboys to 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:05.920 actually make it into the playoffs. But the biggest question 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:10.000 yet is can they actually win that first week, the 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.080 first game of the playoffs if they were to make 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.480 it in So, Derek, you can go ahead and get 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.440 started with that kind of matchup, because that's something that 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:23.320 you know, sometimes the Cowboys get to skip that first 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.800 game and then once they make it into the second week, 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.840 they lose. And it's like, at least at the time 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.640 that I've been here, it never gets past that first game. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:37.280 So tell me about your prediction if that was to happen. Yeah, 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.040 the tough part about this one is we still have 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:45.240 not seen the Cowboys win against teams that are of 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.920 that caliber. Like they've won some games against some teams 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.440 that are not that good, they have not beaten teams 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.399 that are of the playoff caliber in the NFC or 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.719 THEFC for that matter, And so from that standpoint, I 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.800 would be it would be hard to come up with 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.840 a rational reason why you would think that they would 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.560 be able to beat one of those teams. Now, I 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.600 will say this, though you know the NFL is crazy 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:10.439 and we see it every year. There are things that 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.240 happened that you aren't expected to happen. We were on 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:13.399 a call, Nick, you and I were on a call 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.720 this morning where someone brought up the Giants back in 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.280 I don't remember what year it was, but back when, Yeah, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.119 when they won the championship. They won the championship and 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.520 came in as a sixth seed. I want to say 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.400 the Steelers did it a year or two after that, 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:32.200 so it happens. I just don't see a scenario here 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.960 where that happens. Now, you know, winning one game, maybe 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.000 that happens, you know, I don't think. And right now 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.080 it looks like Tampa Bay is the team that they 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.679 would match up with. I don't think Tampa Bay is 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.800 without flaws. I think Tampa Bay is a team that 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:47.480 has shown this year that they can have some off 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:51.639 weeks and they can put up some clunkers. I just again, 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.600 I just don't see how you could rationally think that Dallas, 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.360 based on what they've done so far this year, has 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.240 a legitimate shot at beating any of those teams. Yeah, 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.120 I agree, and I think that you know, in other 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.680 years it's happened where the team that's seven to nine 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.040 gets in the playoffs and wins, even that we win 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.800 their first game, But it also is a playoff atmosphere, 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.679 you know, where it's really loud, like Seattle did it. 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:17.239 You know how tough it is to win there. And 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.520 I think San Diego might have done it at eight 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.320 and eight or so. But but I'm just saying that, 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.040 you know, this little different here. You can't really create 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.520 that kind of playoff atmosphere, so it's just going to 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.480 kind of come down to who's the better team, And yeah, 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:34.120 anything can happen, but we'd like to compare quarterbacks around here, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.879 and if you're going going up against Tampa Bay, it 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.720 just seems like it would be an uphill battle for 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.720 Andy Dalton, who's never won a playoff game, to beat 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:46.919 Tom Brady, who has won playoff games. I believe, I 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:50.479 think he has. He's won a couple of Dallas has 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.040 actually played eight games against teams that are either in 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.960 the playoffs or still alive to make the playoffs. They're 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.600 o and eight in those games, and the average margin 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:04.760 of defeat is fifteen points. And they've done it. They've 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.080 done it across the board, by the way. They lost 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.920 to Seattle in Cleveland when they still had Dak. They 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:14.359 lost to Arizona with Dalton, they lost to Pittsburgh with 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.080 Garrett Gilbert, and on and on and on and on. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.840 So obviously anything can happen in the NFL. Like it 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.960 would be crazy to just say no, it's impossible, But yeah, 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.679 Derek worded it perfectly. It's hard to come up with 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:30.160 a rational reason why I would picked out to beat 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:34.240 Tampa Bay. In a playoff game, and especially, like Nick said, 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.320 in a season where I mean, I know, you know, 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.040 the Cowboys have more fans in their stadium than anybody else, 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.760 but it's still not going to be the type of 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.480 atmosphere that you're accustomed to with a home playoff game. 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:47.200 But we will throw this out there just for those 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.560 people that want to see the the you know, the 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.760 half glass, the glass half full. Like this is the 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:56.040 year of the of COVID, right, and so everything can 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.600 change on a dime. It's the reason why Cleveland found 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:02.560 themselves on the other end of of a win against 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.399 the jetsice last week because they're basically their wide receiver 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:08.120 room got wiped out by COVID. It's happened, and so 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:10.960 it's it's it's I mean, it's you don't want to 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:12.840 be rooting for guys to get COVID, But I'm just saying, 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.439 in this year, there are lots of crazy things that 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:17.640 can happen, and that's why you just want to get 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.120 into the dance and see where it goes. And even 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.840 if you're overmatched, sometimes there's a way that things kind 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:26.320 of level themselves off. This year, you know, yeah, let 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.200 me let me correct myself real quick. I guess technically, 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.879 since the Giants are still alive, the Cowboys are one 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.199 and eight against teams that still have a shot to 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:37.119 make the playoffs. Thanks for that correction. You know, the 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.879 Giants make a lot, right, Yeah, the Giants that maybe 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.400 aren't in the same category some of those other teams. 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.240 Yeah yeah, maybe not, but they get into the playoffs 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:49.520 will have to make sure and alter that that stat 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:53.040 because then it would be teams that are in the playoffs. 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.240 And then there's two wins, two losses by Washington their 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.840 hats out, you know, and then um, yea, then they 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:01.720 maybe Cleveland, I don't know. I mean they're they're they 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.600 may make it, might not make Arizona. Yeah, yeah, no, 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:07.960 there's which which are those are a few teams that 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:12.719 might especially especially the two Washington ones, Baltimore which I 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:14.520 think they're gonna make it, but maybe not. And then 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.280 um and then Arizona. I mean those were the those 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:20.159 are the ones that made that that margin of victory 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:23.800 like really out there, so um, you know, not wrong, 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.479 but I didn't realize it was like that. I mean, 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.639 I knew they hadn't beaten anybody that was that was 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:34.439 really any good, but didn't think it was that bad. Well, 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:38.320 let's go ahead and address the draft real quick, because 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:41.200 I know there are plenty of fans that really really 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:44.359 care about the draft and where they land this year. 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.760 If the Cowboys were to win this game against the 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:51.159 Giants but then don't actually make it into the playoffs 0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:55.040 because Washington won their game as well, where does that 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:59.399 leave the Cowboys as far as positioning in the draft. 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:04.280 It's hard to say that here before we play the 0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:06.840 final game because you know, obviously a bunch of teams 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:08.720 are going to wind up with the same record, and 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:13.040 then you're using strength of schedule to break those ties. 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:17.320 I know, if they don't make the playoffs, then they 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:21.639 can't pick any worse than sixteenth, because Arizona is sitting 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.920 in the seventeen spot with eight wins. Obviously, the Cowboys 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.880 are not capable of getting to eight wins, So if 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.960 they don't make the playoffs, sixteen is probably the worst 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.840 they could be. And then obviously, if they were to 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.120 win the division, they could pick as high as nineteen, 0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.320 and it just depends, you know, if they win or not, 0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:43.119 so you're probably looking. I think the range is like 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:47.960 anywhere between eight and sixteen, depending on what happens, Like 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.439 if they lose and they get some other results, they 0:23:50.520 --> 0:23:52.959 might jump back up into the top ten, or if 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.600 they win, it could be like sixteen. So it's hard 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.240 to say, but the variance is somewhere between like eight 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:05.840 and sixteen. Hopefully, um, they make it worth the ride. 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:09.040 I don't know what that ride is going to lead to. Man, 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.880 I am so this is this is this is ag 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.000 right here. She's like, if you're gonna do it, you 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.399 better win the super Bowl. Otherwise, why are you messing 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.000 with my draft picks exactly? And look this is coming 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:24.159 from someone that has never ever cared about the draft. 0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:26.600 I'll be honest, I've never really cared or been that 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:30.560 much into but this year, out of all the years, 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:34.520 I actually really do care. So I just hope they 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.800 make it worth the while, and that if they do 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.040 make it into the playoffs and don't get very far, 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:42.840 that alsa was worth the ride. I mean, Nick is 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.920 very excited to see Tom Brady. I don't know why, 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:50.240 but he's very excited about it. So I hope it's 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:52.600 worth it. I just think, you know, getting an opportunity 0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:57.320 to face you know, the Bucks and Tom Brady in 0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.280 the playoffs. I mean that, who would have ever thought 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.959 that that, you know, you would get a chance to, 0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:04.480 you know, be in a situation like that. I just 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.680 I don't know. I just think it's just a it's 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.760 just a crazy year. And so you know, if we 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.600 were to sit back in training camp, which was crazy 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:16.800 then and to say what do you think the Halbums 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:18.840 are going to do this year, It's like, well, I 0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.560 think their best quarterback is going to be out ten games. 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:24.160 I think their best tight end's gonna be out sixteen games, 0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:26.439 their best tackle is going to be out fourteen, and 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.400 their second best will be out sixteen, and their best 0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.600 linebacker will be out six games. And you know, and 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.480 I just think they're gonna struggle. But I think they're 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:37.960 gonna make the playoffs. Still, you'd be like, what seriously, Yeah, yeah, 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.960 I think they Well I think they'll sneak into the playoffs. 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:43.360 That would be that would be a miracle. And I think, 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.920 you know, they're at one percent chance to make the playoffs. 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:47.199 And now I don't know where they are now. But 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.760 I heard somebody say the other day it's sixteen is 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.239 the right now? Yeah, I think that's a little low. 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.000 It would seem you think it'd be more like twenty 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:57.440 five at least. But well, we talked about this other night, 0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.400 Dave and I when we were walking out, they who 0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:03.480 who's favored? Is Dallas favored to win? I'm not sure. 0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:05.520 I haven't looked recently, to be honest with you, I 0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:08.600 don't know. I know, I know Philadelphia was. I know 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:13.560 Philadelphia was favored as of Sunday Sunday after the game Philadelphia. 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.320 I would just think if both teams are favored to win, 0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:20.000 then you should be favored to make the playoffs. If 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:22.840 both scenarios are favored by a point and a half, 0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:26.159 I'm looking at three. I don't know what you're looking at. 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.600 Oh sorry, well I don't know. There's like five different 0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.879 companies that do this. I'm going off of an ESPN, 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.800 the company that ESPN uses. Got it? Okay, So but 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:36.520 you know, here's the deal. I think the way I 0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.280 look at it is and this goes back to what 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:42.520 AG was saying, like, I'm just entertained, me, keep me entertained. 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.119 That to me, that's what sports is. Sports is entertainment. 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.720 So I really, at this point don't care a whole 0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.120 lot about what happens with the draft pick. I'll deal 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.000 with that once I get to April, and entertain me 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.719 with whatever you're gonna do on draft Day in April, 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.199 But as of right now, entertain me for as long 0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:58.960 as possible. So if you can get in the playoffs, 0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:01.520 get in the playoffs, if you can maybe get a 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.160 win in the playoffs, maybe get a win in the playoffs, 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.840 that just keeps me entertained a little bit longer. And 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.440 as a football fan, I want to be entertained because 0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:13.400 you're not, because you're not one of those draft gurus 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:17.200 like like others are, and that's how they've been entertained 0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:20.840 this whole time of like, well this is boring because 0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.320 they're not very good, so just keep losing, so because 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.359 we can get from one of these really good players. 0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.400 I watched this kid that from Oregon and he's good, 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.159 so we can get him, you know. So all the 0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.720 players are on the table as bad as you are. 0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.359 Then the guys that have studied the draft are saying, 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.800 I got my hands on everybody because I'm not bad. 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:40.520 But as it turns out, I mean, they didn't earn it. 0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.040 They haven't earned a bad pick because they're not that bad. 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.600 They're not great. But they're not that bad, you know. No, 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.920 they're not. I mean they're not. They're not like, they're 0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:53.200 not just bad. Yeah, they're not just bad. And when 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.400 they were three and nine we thought maybe maybe they are, 0:27:56.520 --> 0:28:00.800 but they're not. I mean, they went in they face 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:02.679 those beat teams. He's gonna say, this is one of 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:07.359 those potato potato scenarios here. No, I don't think I'll 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.800 say this. I No, I don't. I don't. Necessarily, I 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.159 don't think so either. I'm and I am. I am 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.000 a draft guy, and as somebody whose job it is 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.800 to create draft content throughout the entire offseason. No offense 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.480 to anybody, I'll be ecstatic if they have a top 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.880 ten pick because that makes my job a lot easier. 0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.920 But you know what, it goes back to the same 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:30.159 thing we said at the top of the show, like 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:31.679 it's really it's not up to me. I don't have 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.400 any control over anyway, So I might as well sit 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.760 back and enjoy the ride. And you know what, if 0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:38.880 they get to host a playoff game against the best 0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.320 quarterback ever, you know, we get to see what Tom 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.480 Brady looks like in the playoffs for the first time 0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:47.440 without Satriots and what and how many times has Tom 0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.960 Brady even played the Cowboys in his career, like maybe 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.320 five in twenty something years. So that's you know, that's 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.320 special and that's cool. Um and you know who I mean. 0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.400 I think the Bucks are on the schedule next year, 0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.000 but you don't know for sure what's going to happen. 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.200 Brady might not play a game, So hell yeah, I 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.160 want to see Tom Brady in a playoff game against 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.280 the Cowboys. That sounds fun as hell, no doubt. And 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.320 IM and I'm with you there too when it gets 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.240 down to it, like, yeah, you want the highest draft 0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:13.280 pick that you can get. I've said this, I've said 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.080 this before, maybe on this show. Yeah, if you if 0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.080 you're putting me in the hospital, give me the best 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.200 hospital there is. But I'm not going to break my 0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.200 legs so i can go to this nice hospital. Okay, 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.160 I'm not going to do that. If that's the scenario, 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.720 that I've earned analogy, if I've earned it, if I've 0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.560 earned it, I'll take the best. But as it turns out, 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:31.640 they just didn't earn it. They weren't that bad. They 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.360 were way better than Cincinnati, they were better than San Francisco. 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.760 They were better than the Eagles. They you know, as 0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.600 the schedule unfolded, they're in the middle of the pack 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.680 team and that's kind of where they are. That's what 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:47.160 they've earned. Yep, you know. I think my concern is 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.320 even though they found some consistency here in the past 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:54.320 three weeks, and if they weren't to get to that scenario, 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.440 that would mean they found consistency four weeks in a row. 0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:01.080 But it's that mentality that like, I'm still not feeling 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:05.200 sure of what kind of Cowboys team we would get 0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.800 that day. I don't know what kind of Cowboys defense 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.720 is gonna show up. So it's that's why I'm not 0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.200 as excited of that scenario because I'm like, Okay, if 0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.680 they go out there and put a good game, even 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.520 if they lose, if they go and put out a 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.160 good game where it was entertaining, yeah, it's gonna be fun. 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.640 But if they go out there and get just completely 0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:29.200 run over by their offense, it's it's just one of 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:31.800 those games that it's just it's just gonna be it's 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.520 gonna piss you off. I'm gonna walk out of the 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.160 day not getting completely pissed off. So I just don't 0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.480 know what we would get that week. But let me 0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.080 ask you us real quick. I want to throw this 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.000 in real quick. Do you guys think and I know 0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:46.720 we're up against a break but and maybe we have 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.480 to go to break first, But do you think that 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.040 maybe and I get me, correct me if I'm wrong, 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.240 was last week the first week this season when you 0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.400 had your complete starting defense in there. I know we've 0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.320 talked about this defense and said that they didn't have 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.840 nearly the to deal with that the offense dealt with, 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.560 but the secondary has been in flux all season. Was 0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:06.600 last week the first week when you had the exact 0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:10.080 the entire starting defense on the field for a game? 0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.280 Or was there are other game where the other games 0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.480 this season where you had everybody's kind of bench Layton 0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:16.920 like that they didn't even have. Yeah, they didn't even 0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.000 Have'm sorry, yeah they didn't have. Like I was thinking 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.040 about the secondary because the first time he had secondary 0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:24.440 all together, and I didn't even think about the fact 0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.840 of Layton. But maybe we found out last week that 0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.600 that Layton isn't as critical as having all those secondary guys. 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.480 Maybe I don't know, Yeah, yeah, but I guess my 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.560 question though, becomes with with the entire secondary. Does this 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.360 defense change a bit? Are they a little bit different 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.720 than what we thought they've been or what they really 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.800 have shown us all season? You know, are they a 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.720 little bit better than that? I think? I think though 0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:50.280 when the season began, you know, this last we're talking 0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.480 about the last three games, because that's where that's what's 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:55.880 got him here the last three games. Nobody of the 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:59.720 three quarterbacks was expected to be a starting quarterback, if 0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:03.160 even in the league. Brandon Alan, Nick Mullins, Jalen hurts 0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.959 to play quarterback. So that's who they face. And so 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.280 if they and they gotta face I guess Daniel Jones. 0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.840 I don't know what's going on. If m Colton McCoy, 0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.360 I don't know who that is over there. I think 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.040 it's Daniel Jones. But um, either way, you know you're 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.840 you're not facing these top caliber quarter and so if 0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:20.080 you get to the playoffs, you're probably gonna face the 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.600 greatest quarterback that ever that ever played. Now. I know 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:26.520 the Rams can get the five spot, but their quarterback 0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.560 just broke his thumb, So I don't know if he's 0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.240 gonna They have to win and the Bucks have to 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:32.760 lose for that to happen. So it looks like the 0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.200 five seat would beat Tampa, right. Yes, but I will 0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.040 say this though, you gotta I think we're we're all 0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:42.320 kind of almost giving a little less credit to Jalen Hurts. 0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.480 But remember, just two weeks before that, they went and 0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.600 beat a New Orleans team that is one of the 0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.520 best teams in the NFC. Yeah, and they also followed 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.280 that up with a very very impressive game against the Cardinals. 0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.280 They lost, but they put up points and they they 0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.680 battle them. Yeah. I just think I just think you 0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.320 gotta you gotta give this defense maybe a little bit 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.560 of credit for the fact that they did shut them 0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.000 down or slow them down at least in after two 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.160 weeks of some really good production against some better teams. Great, 0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.720 I mean, and that's what will happen. Congratulations, you guys 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:15.880 have won four in a row. You're in the playoffs. 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.760 You snuck in there. You're in the playoffs. Go beat 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.280 Tom Brady, you get Tom Brady as the prize. Have fun. 0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:26.080 It would be not only that, but congratulations, we discovered 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.400 the secondary might be better than we thought, just in 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.520 time for most of them to be out of contracts. 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:34.040 So Oh that's really a killer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm 0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:40.040 just saying just what we need in more confusion. Let's 0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.200 go ahead and take our final break. When we come back, 0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:45.440 let's get into Andy Dalton's performance. 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We're here about to 0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:30.040 talk about Andy Dalton, who had a pretty pretty good 0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:33.440 game last weekend, and we did not get a chance 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.440 to talk about him yesterday, but we're about to do 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.040 that now. He completed twenty two of thirty passes for 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:43.120 a season high of three hundred and seventy seven yards 0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:46.800 passing yards with three touchdowns and the win against the Eagles. 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.759 So just wanted to get an assessment from you guys 0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:54.560 and where are you currently feeding feeling about him? Because 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.440 I believe it was Nick that mentioned a few minutes 0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.960 ago that Andy Dalton hasn't actually won a playoff game. 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.640 But the fact that you see him performing at this 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.719 level right now, this far down the road, does that 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.920 give you any more confidence that he could possibly go 0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:13.799 out there and put up a good match. I think so. 0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:15.759 I mean, I think he. I think he's playing his 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:19.280 best football now, you know he had of this season. 0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.040 Of course, I'd haven't studied all of this tape of 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.000 Cincinnati but like or any of it. But I think 0:37:24.040 --> 0:37:28.120 that he now not even a play. I did see 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.120 a play the other day though, that he caught a 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.000 touchdown pass like on a fake fake pass throw back 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.320 to him. Really he kind of like Randy Moss somebody 0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:37.200 I don't know when that was in his career. Through 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:38.840 it it was like the running back. It was like 0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:40.520 a trick play and he threw it back to Andy 0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.879 Dalton and he kind of called over his nice play. 0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:45.600 But the interception was kind of bothersome to me the 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:47.160 other day, you know, and he was having a great 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.160 game and then it was like unnecessary that forced it 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.239 like that. Well, he I think he had the throw 0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:54.960 he said to throw it a little bit farther. Seed 0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.040 was out there. I think he could have made a play. 0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.040 But but I mean that that was really the only hiccup. 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.080 He had a really nice game. You know, it could 0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.800 have been he could have maybe flirted with a perfect game. 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.040 If you think about if the tight end rolls out 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.520 for a pass there and they give it to him 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.800 instead of a you know, third down, you know, he 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.960 could score a touchdown there. He can take away that interception. 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.000 I mean, you're you're looking at four touchdowns and no picks. 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.480 You know, if they don't interfere CD at the end 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:20.759 of the game, I mean that that might be in 0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.640 a touchdown too the way he had it. So, I 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:27.000 mean it was a really nice game. Kellen Moore took 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.480 responsibility for that hiccup on the third and goal. By 0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:31.959 the way, we talked about that yesterday. He said that's 0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.200 on me. It was a miscommunication and he didn't have 0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.640 anybody to throw too. Yeah, so I know I thought 0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:40.880 he was great. I think, um, you know, his his 0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.600 deep ball is yeah, I think Derek said yesterday his 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:45.440 deep ball is not as good as Dacks. You know, 0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:47.719 he had a had a couple throws to Gallop like 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:49.480 he had. He took a deep shot to Gallop where 0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:52.160 he didn't really even give him a chance down the sideline, 0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:54.799 and then you know, if he puts a little more 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:56.799 air under the ball to CD that I think that's 0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.160 a touchdown like he had. He had a couple steps 0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.279 on his coverage. But I mean that's nitpicking in a 0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.239 game where you know, you you put together that performance 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:10.080 and it's I almost it's almost unfair. I maybe because 0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:13.359 Andy obviously has been asked to do way more than 0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:17.600 most backup quarterbacks. Like just imagine imagine if Dad, like 0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.400 Drew Brees last year, Imagine if Dak had broken his 0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:23.799 thumb and they just needed Andy Dalton to hold the 0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:30.879 line for a month done that. You know what, what 0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:32.919 what is what's his starting record right now? Like four 0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.719 and four? I think four? So if I mean if 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.040 Andy had gone two and two or three and one 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.359 as the back, as the backup in place of Dak, 0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:42.760 it would have been amazing and we'd probably be sitting 0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.080 here arguing about whether he should be the starter because 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:48.959 that's the nature of the NFL. So it's really only 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.800 the sample size that has has screwed him over. I 0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:55.360 think he's been phenomenal for most of the opportunity that 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.320 he's gotten. Yeah, and that brings up an interesting point. 0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.279 I think there's a bit bit of a dilemma here 0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:05.120 for Dallas from the standpoint that you know, everything we've 0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.719 heard suggests that Dak is on schedule. He'll be back, 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:12.240 he'll be better than ever. But the fact is, until 0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.640 you see him back out there and you see him 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:19.320 actually performing in the way that he normally performs, Dallas 0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.919 has an interesting dilemma here because you know, you would 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.400 think Andy Dalton, with what he's done in these games, 0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:27.640 particularly in this last game, and whatever he does in 0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.719 this game upcoming, he may be positioning himself and probably 0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:33.000 already has positioned himself to where some team out there 0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:36.719 would be happy to make him their starting quarterback. Question becomes, 0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.120 does Dallas say, hey, we really want to keep We 0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:42.239 think it's important to keep him because we don't like 0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.040 there still is that small percentage chance that Dak's not 0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:48.000 quite ready. And as Dave was saying, if I need 0:40:48.080 --> 0:40:50.120 him for the first four weeks of the season, while 0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.560 I'm still getting Dak ready, I feel pretty good that 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.480 we can still get off to a pretty good start 0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:58.279 with Andy Dalton. But financially, can you even afford to 0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:00.440 like you would think, okay, money whipping and get him 0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.359 to stay here as your backup. You can't do that. 0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:04.000 You have Dak that you're gonna have to try to 0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:07.200 pay or give a franchise tag too. Like there's a 0:41:07.280 --> 0:41:10.040 there's a lot of issues right now that quarterback position 0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:12.239 and trying to figure out how you navigate all that 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.240 in this offseason, where, by the way, at the best 0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:18.200 case scenario your cap stays the same, it's probably gonna 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.960 go down. So there is a lot to think about there, 0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.600 and and Andy Dalton playing well is only complicating that 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.160 even more. Yeah, yeah, I think you know you can't. 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:29.359 You can't really have fifty million dollars committed to your 0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.040 quarterback room, which would it would be in the neighborhood 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.080 of that, you know, even and I think you're right. 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:36.279 I think he could be you know, he could go 0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:38.480 to another team. There'd be a team that would probably 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:40.759 love to have him, you know, especially a team that 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.720 drafts a quarterback high. You know, and then the Bridge 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.040 player made a great player for that. He wouldn't be 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.440 bad in Washington either, you know, if you think about it, 0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:51.920 that would be a good Can I look into my 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.839 go ahead? Can I look into my crystal ball? Here? 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:57.080 Go for it? Because I just I can see how 0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:01.000 see how this I just I can see it. I 0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:03.520 can see it with crystal clarity. It's so clear that 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.240 it doesn't even look like I'm holding one right, Andy 0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:10.960 Dalton has played well enough. Nick, You're exactly right. Like 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:15.240 a Chicago Bears or a Jacksonville Jaguars, like they're gonna 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:17.800 pay him, not like they're not gonna break the bank, 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:22.080 but they're gonna pay him three years, fifty million or 0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.360 something like that to go compete for the starting job 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:29.759 slash start until the rookie is ready. Like that. I 0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:31.880 just feel like that's gonna happen, and we are going 0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:36.400 to spend the offseason talking about how great Garrett Gilbert 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:40.640 played against Pittsburgh and that is why the Cowboys have 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.640 faith that he can be their backup quarterback. That's my prediction. 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:48.200 That's what I say. Seems I'm looking into your crystal ball. Say, yeah, yeah, 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:52.720 I see the same thing. Like you say, the Bears. 0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:56.520 Who the who the Bears drafting? He can oh, I 0:42:56.520 --> 0:43:01.080 don't know. The Bears had good no good point. The 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.640 Bears might go to the playoffs, so who knows. But 0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.680 but you're saying somebody who drafts one of those top teams, 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:11.319 those top quarterbacks. Yeah, yeah, you get like Fitzpatrick every year, Yes, yes, 0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.760 every every year there's a team that Yeah, there's always 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:17.200 a team that's like, well, we're not gonna splash cash 0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.160 for like a true franchise quarterback, but we need to 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:22.239 we need to pay a veteran who can come in 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:23.560 here and start if we need to do it. Was 0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.799 Nick Voles did it in Jacksonville, Mike Glennon did it 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.279 in Chicago a few years ago. It happens all the time, 0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.520 and he feels so bad for that guy too, Like 0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:34.640 Tyrod Taylor, You're like, man, you've done everything right and 0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:40.000 then that's just a bad situation right right with the Chargers. Yeah, yeah, 0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.759 but I'm just saying, you know, it happens, and you 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:44.160 feel for that. But I don't know, I think he 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.440 could maybe maybe beat the guy on another team, you know, 0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:50.640 a team that's you know, that just needs a good 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.319 quarter And that's why I think Washington, you know, I 0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.320 know they have Alex Smith, but I think Andy Dalton 0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.360 could be better than him. Yea, And yeah, I don't know. 0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:00.480 I hate I don't really want to face him twice, 0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:01.880 but I'm just saying that I think that could be 0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:07.000 a good scenario. Okay, maybe we have time for one 0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:11.680 last question before we have to end the show real quick, Dave, 0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.360 you talked about some of the progress we've seen in 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:18.399 the final weeks of the season, especially in the secondary 0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:22.200 and the Dallas defense. My question for you guys, has 0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:26.120 anyone done enough to make you change your opinion about 0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:29.239 them based on what you thought about them throughout the 0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:32.759 season beginning middle of the season to where they are 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:38.240 currently now? Does anyone come to mind Jordan Lewis. Jordan Lewis, 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.960 for me, I didn't want to resign him, but now 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.840 now I'll resign him. That's a good one. I like 0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:48.400 him in his role. I think he just needs confidence. 0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:50.720 I think he needs to needs people that a team 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:53.440 that says, man, you're our guy. You're not for everybody. 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:57.719 You're not maybe in every down outside corner, but you've 0:44:57.760 --> 0:44:59.759 got a niche, You've got a role. He's got a 0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:03.040 good attitude really through it all. And I think he's 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:04.960 a good, good player to have on your team. I 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:07.080 know from a media standpoint, he's a great player to 0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.000 have for us, But I mean that's not the point. 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:11.600 If it was, then Joe Looney would be the team captain. 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.920 But um, but I just think I think Jordan Lewis 0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:17.160 is a guy that I've changed my opinion on whether 0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:20.000 or not he would come back or not. In my opinion, 0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.800 I think the easy answer here is Dalton Schultz because 0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:27.759 I was so, oh, did you said just say defense? No? 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.600 Just okay, okay, okay, yeah. No, I think the easy 0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:33.480 answer is Dalton Schultz. Yeah. But but I will say 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.040 I would actually opt to say Terrence Still because I 0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:38.920 don't think Terren Still has been as good as like 0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:41.880 Dalton Schultz. Like Dalton Schultz has been very clearly a 0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.920 like opposite of what we thought of him. He's been 0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:48.319 that right. Terren Still is not that good. But I 0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:50.440 think from what I thought of him early this season, 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.400 I thought he was I didn't understand why he was 0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.839 even on the team. Now what I think of him 0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.040 is he is a serviceable backup type player and and 0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:01.080 by the way, he's a service vistable backup player who 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.920 is a young player that still has the opportunity to 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.000 a sin to get better. So I have a whole 0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.440 different opinion of him. I want to see how he develops. 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.160 Can you turn into a guy that may be good 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:13.399 enough to be a swing tackle, and if you can 0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:15.560 get that guy and pay him early, and you can't 0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.320 create some opportunities where he becomes you know, a pretty 0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:20.439 good player maybe later in his career. Maybe a guy 0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:22.960 that can kind of get on the cusp of you know, 0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:25.640 a guy that can start play some good I remember 0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:28.400 what was the guy's name, Purnell that played tackle for 0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.840 the Cowboys, went on to get Jeremy Parnell, went on 0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.960 to get a went on to get a good contract 0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:35.320 with the Jaguars, a pretty nice contract with the Jaguars, 0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.640 and played for them for several years. Maybe he has 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:39.920 that kind of trajectory where he can grow into that 0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:41.719 kind of player. I just want to keep an eye 0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:43.080 on him because he showed me a little bit here 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:47.200 in the second half of the season. I like all 0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:52.920 of those answers. I will throw in Antoine Woods just 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.080 you know, I don't know if I learned anything new 0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:58.480 about him, but going into the season, it's like, yeah, 0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:02.799 he's a rotational member defensive line. He's he's an undrafted guy, 0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:05.640 like you know, he's Rod Marinelli was in love with him. 0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:08.360 I don't know if he's like the most amazing player 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:10.120 in the world. I still, you know, I'm not saying 0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:13.359 he's Aaron Donald. But the run defense got a lot 0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:15.799 better when he started playing more snaps after don Terry 0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.239 Po left. He I mean, the guy plays with an edge. 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.600 You can tell it matters to him. The thing with 0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.799 Juju Smith Schuster, like that matters like he like he 0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.560 gives a damn about like repping the star and all 0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:30.600 of that intangible stuff that you look for. Um. I 0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:32.560 think that's a good character guy to have on your 0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.480 defense in addition to being a good player. And I 0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:38.440 believe he's a restricted free agent, so you know, you're 0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:40.399 not talking about having to spend a lot of money 0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:42.799 to keep him around, So you know. I don't know 0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:45.080 if I felt that way in August, but I do now. 0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:47.200 I think we might have missed an obvious one too. 0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:51.480 And Donovan Woods, I think I think Donovan Wilson, Sorry Donovan, 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:53.319 I didn't think. I didn't. I don't know that my 0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:55.520 opinion changed. A lot of you thought he would be 0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:57.680 a starting safety, but I thought he was. I thought 0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:00.400 he was a player that could be good. I just 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.640 thought he had an ad an opportunity. So now he's 0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:04.560 got an opportunity. He showed us he can be pretty good. 0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:06.719 I don't know that I thought, you know that the 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:08.799 upside was that he would be as good as he's been, 0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.600 but I certainly didn't think of him as a player 0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.000 who was not very good, which all these names we 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.120 just mentioned were guys that we all thought at some 0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:19.000 point we're not very good. Well, I'll also throw Xavier 0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:21.759 Woods into that group on the flip side, Okay, I 0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:23.719 mean I thought he was a better player than he is. 0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:25.239 I really did. I thought he would make a guy 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.239 that would take the moment and make more plays, and 0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:29.040 he didn't. I don't think he's made a playoffs. Are 0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:30.920 we all kind of done on him? I think so. 0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:33.160 He hasn't made a play all year. He really hasn't 0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:37.200 for the Cowboys. He has not made a good positive play, 0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.160 And I mean you need that out of him, You 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:42.279 need that out of your safety. I mean, I don't know, 0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.160 I just I mean, he goes into free agency, is 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:47.320 I don't know. It wasn't a great no contract here, No, 0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:49.480 it really wasn't. And usually you see it the other 0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:53.719 way around. Ye. Well, I was trying to end on 0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:59.360 the show on a positive note, and you we flipped 0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:05.479 your positive question into a negative question. Yeah, thanks, thanks 0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:09.320 for that, Nick, Derek, do you mind doing the honors 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:11.640 of closing the show? Sure? Well, thank you guys for 0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:13.640 joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna jump into 0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:16.440 Cowboys versus Giants. We'll have Bucky Brooks on tomorrow. He'll 0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.880 give us his breakdown of the Giants offense versus the 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:22.640 Cowboys defense. Still in for Nick Eatman, Dave helmt Ambergarcia. 0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:25.640 Thank you Ember for so graciously hosting us today. We'll 0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.480 be back tomorrow. This has been The Break live on 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:34.680 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production 0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:38.520 of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.