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Speaker 2: But also I've got several more Week ten that we're

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Speaker 2: gonna call it Week ten. Generically it depends conference by

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Speaker 2: conference what week it really is, but we've got several

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Speaker 2: predictions on games from multiple conferences. Tonight, I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: additional thoughts. As I said on Georgia floor. Also, there

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Speaker 2: Let's dive into some Week ten predictions. Week ten college

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Speaker 2: football already upon us. As I said, it's kind of

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Speaker 2: a case by case in conferences as to what week

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Speaker 2: they describe it as being, but we're gonna call it

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Speaker 2: week ten for again, very generic purposes. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: Columbia South Carolina. We're gonna hop around to a number

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Speaker 2: of games here. I'm gonna give you picks and picks

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Speaker 2: against the spread Texas A and M. This numbers kind

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Speaker 2: of floated around colin If we would have done this

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Speaker 2: Tuesday night, A, M was like a seven and a

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Speaker 2: half point favorite. Well, now they're a ten point favorite

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Speaker 2: on the road at South Carolina. This is a seven

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Speaker 2: o'clock Eastern time kickoff on ESPM. It is my opinion,

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Speaker 2: this is the best stretch that we've seen Texas A

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Speaker 1: Play football under Jimbo Fisher.

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Speaker 2: You could pick a couple of stretches from maybe last

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Speaker 2: year where you could maybe counter that, but I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I would say this is the best stretch.

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Speaker 2: Remember, they beat Florida, then they went on the road

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Speaker 2: and won a game that you may not have been

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Speaker 2: where the number was under a touchdown and they covered convincingly.

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Speaker 2: And then last week, of course, they had another convincing

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Speaker 1: So I think it's the best stretch they've played.

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Speaker 2: Now, question, of course, becomes can they continue playing very

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Speaker 2: South Carolina does not do that. South Carolina's once again

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Speaker 2: South Carolina has to figure out a way to pressure

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Speaker 2: It's not just that they've played inferior competition. That's not

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Speaker 2: what I'm suggesting. This A and M offensive line has

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Speaker 2: the other day. They gave up two sacks in their

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Speaker 2: week one kind of struggle win against Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 1: They haven't given up one since then. They've been awesome.

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Speaker 2: It's a shame that they reside in the same division

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Speaker 2: So the best way to try to put together a

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Speaker 2: affect Kellen Mond. I mean, you've seen him make mistakes

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Speaker 2: Because of that protection, he's been given he's completing nearly

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Speaker 2: many people, even in Aggie Land, would have expected that

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Speaker 2: you've seen South Carolina play both roles. You've seen them

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Speaker 2: then you've seen them on the other end of it,

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Speaker 2: i e. The LSU game. What do we expect here? Well,

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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna take them to win.

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Speaker 1: However, here's the problem.

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Speaker 2: I looked in our model, and our model only has

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Speaker 2: A and M by about six and a half or seven.

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Speaker 2: So South Carolina's rested home game, you know you got

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Speaker 1: It's the first leg of a back to back of

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Speaker 2: By the way, our model only has it roughly A

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Speaker 2: to cover, but we will take A and M to

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Speaker 2: win the game.

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Speaker 1: Another game in.

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Speaker 2: The SEC that we haven't touched on much yet, Tennessee

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling, but sometimes, and I give you fair warning

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Speaker 2: if it's going to be different, I just have a

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Speaker 1: So this is one of those gut field games. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to walk you through it. Here. Where are we

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Speaker 2: If you're going to bet either one of them this weekend,

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Speaker 2: where are you buying them at. One of the reasons

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Speaker 2: we liked, as I said, A and M over Arkansas

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Speaker 2: so much last week, is because we thought the respective

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Speaker 2: We didn't think it was going to get any better

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Speaker 2: so we bought it and we won. But we also

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Speaker 2: I think the exact same case is in play here

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Speaker 2: a lot of people are seeing when they look at

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Speaker 2: Arkansas's coming off a loss, so they're in wounded animal mode.

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Speaker 2: They got a winnable game here, They're looking to get

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Speaker 2: quarterback with Felipe Franks. Okay, that's what I think a

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Speaker 2: to remember. You've got a better roster at Tennessee. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: have on this. You've got a better roster there, You've

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Speaker 2: been thrown in a schedule in wood Chipper Tennessee already.

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Speaker 1: The perception you have of them is.

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Speaker 2: Because they are a team that had to play Alabama

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Speaker 2: go one and one in that stretch. So, yeah, they've

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Speaker 2: what if I were to have replaced Georgia in Alabama

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Speaker 2: what if you're able to pressure Felipe Frank Saturday a

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Speaker 2: there's no way to predict that stuff. There sometimes are

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Speaker 2: Can't explain why, and certainly wouldn't move money because of it,

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Speaker 2: but I'm telling you, I think one of those games

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Speaker 1: And I think as a result, you're going to end up.

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Speaker 2: As much as people are talking about Felipe Franks and

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Speaker 2: the overachievement, and I agree with this Arkansas passing game.

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Speaker 2: I think that starting with this game and moving down

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Speaker 2: the back half of their schedule, think some of those

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Speaker 2: make their mark on the rest of this season. And again,

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Speaker 2: I think Garantuno's best game of the year is probably

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Speaker 2: still out there somewhere. I just think this is the time.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like Mond last week, I think this is

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Speaker 2: to win in Tennessee to cover the two, and I

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Speaker 2: would stay tuned. I'm not gonna give that out as

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Speaker 2: All the more reason to follow me on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: late kick, Josh, how about Texas? Talk about the Horns

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Speaker 2: a little bit later in the show. They're at home

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Speaker 2: against West Virginia. This is a noon eastern kickoff eleven

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Speaker 2: a half point favorite. Let me remind you what I

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Speaker 2: doing that. Michigan's favored by three, Well, here's why. What's

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Speaker 1: We already gave you our prediction. We think the wrong

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Speaker 2: We like Florida to cover, and we like Florida to

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Speaker 1: So it could be. I mean, if they beat Georgia,

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Speaker 1: But you know what we don't have. We don't have an.

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Speaker 1: Well, things never open back up.

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Speaker 1: Well, Steve goes on to say, tell.

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Speaker 2: You, the more I talk to kids, the more I

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Speaker 1: This one no different in their list of finalists.

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Speaker 2: you talk about a balance of power shift, Well, what

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Speaker 1: That's what convinced me.

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Speaker 1: I just want to remind you again I kind.

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Speaker 2: They say, we don't compare. Very few teams do. Though

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00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,240
Speaker 2: that's okay. Here's been the strategy. Their mentality has always

440
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 2: been this, We're probably not gonna out recruit them until

441
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 2: we beat them, and maybe even then we won't. Kirby

442
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,640
Speaker 2: Smart's one of the best in the world at recruiting.

443
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 2: But we don't have to outrecruit them. Here's what we

444
00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,240
Speaker 2: have to do. And if you're tuning in right now,

445
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 2: as someone inevitably is, I am speaking in the shoes

446
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Speaker 2: of a Florida fan, not assuming the role of one necessarily.

447
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Speaker 1: I'm not being a homer on the air. Here is

448
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Speaker 1: what they think.

449
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 2: They've always thought, if we can get a comparable roster,

450
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 2: so we can just compete with the roster.

451
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Speaker 1: We will out coach them on game.

452
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Speaker 2: Day, We'll out scheme them, we'll out execute them, we

453
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 2: will outwork them on game day. If we can get

454
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Speaker 2: in the same ballpark. Now, here's the bonus. So they

455
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 2: think they're there, here's the bonus. The bonus is they

456
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,360
Speaker 2: got a really big quarterback edge this year that I mean,

457
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 2: maybe you expected somewhat at the beginning of the year.

458
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 2: But you certainly no one in the summer was saying,

459
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 2: Kyle Trask versus Stetson, Benning and Jacksonville, who's got their tickets?

460
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 2: I think that ticket would have been very popular in Gainesville.

461
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 2: So this is the moment. This is the moment for

462
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: Dan Mullen in Florida at Georgia. Here's another reason why

463
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 2: it could be their moment. They're banged up, man. I

464
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 2: just it kind of sucks that this is the spot

465
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 2: Georgia's and no one feels sorry for Georgia, and no

466
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 2: one's asking you to feel sorry for him, to be

467
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Speaker 2: honest with you. But Jordan Davis, I know that he's

468
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 2: still questionable. I was reading Jake's stuff over on Dogs

469
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven to day and just kind of

470
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 2: texting back and forth with a couple other folks close

471
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 2: to the program. I don't think Jordan Davis is going

472
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: to be much of a factor of Saturday, and he's

473
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Speaker 2: a huge factor in a normal game week for Georgia.

474
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Speaker 2: He's an interior disruptor. I mean, he can affect the quarterback.

475
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 2: He can play a lot of different roles for Georgia.

476
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Speaker 2: Probably won't be there. You know, Richard Account's not there,

477
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 2: had the motorcycle wreck. So you're talking about two pivotal

478
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 2: pieces right up the middle on different levels. Of course,

479
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: for that Georgia defense that either aren't there or aren't

480
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: near one hundred percent. Monty Reri is going to give

481
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Speaker 2: it a go. You don't necessarily know what you get

482
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Speaker 2: from him. Kway Walker it looks like will be able

483
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: to play. Julian Rochester probably out. So it's just I'm

484
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 2: not saying that they don't stand any chance of winning.

485
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Speaker 1: Certain they're favored, I mean favored in the game. There's

486
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Speaker 1: a reason they're favored.

487
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Speaker 2: However, I think it adds a lot of emphasis on

488
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Speaker 2: that little scale as you try and tilt it back

489
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Speaker 2: and forth. When you hear Florida folks say it we

490
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: were talking about in the preseason, it's no different now

491
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 2: This game has the exact tenor we thought it would.

492
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Speaker 2: There is a ton of optimism around Florida, probably even

493
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Speaker 2: more than I thought there would be. And then the

494
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Speaker 2: second part is as much optimism as there is. You've

495
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 2: never seen a narrative shift more radically over a three

496
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 2: or three and a half hour period than it will

497
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Speaker 2: if they can't get the job done against Georgia. That's

498
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Speaker 2: just the way it is. Man, that's big boy college football.

499
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Speaker 2: If you want to if you want to get to

500
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Speaker 2: the top rungs of that ladder, it's it's very thin

501
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: air up there, and there's a very fine margin between

502
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Speaker 2: being a contender versus you've let us down. Man, this programmate,

503
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 2: what I thought it was gonna be. That could go

504
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 2: one way or the other. Sunday morning, Sunday afternoon Sunday

505
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 2: when we're doing the show, I mean, we could be

506
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 2: talking about radically different stories about Florida and the mood

507
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 2: of the fan base over the span of just four

508
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Speaker 2: quarters of football.

509
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Speaker 1: How close?

510
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Speaker 2: And when you think about Georgia's game against Alabama, like

511
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: that's what everyone's drawing from because this is the next

512
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Speaker 2: best passing attack that they will have face ince they

513
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Speaker 2: faced Alabama. So I wonder how close can Florida come

514
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 2: to duplicating portions of that vertical passing attack that Alabama

515
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Speaker 2: was able to establish.

516
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Speaker 1: Because I as.

517
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Speaker 2: Much as I admire what Dan Mullen has done with

518
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Speaker 2: Kyle Trask down there, I don't think they have the

519
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: pure vertical passing threat in their passing game in general.

520
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they lack the speed, but in general,

521
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't think they have that to the degree that

522
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 2: Bama does with Smith and Waddle. No one does. So

523
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Speaker 2: how close are they to have that? How much yards

524
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 2: after catch work can they do? You know, when you,

525
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 2: for instance, when you got Kyle Pitts, but then you

526
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: got Tony, you got a lot of these other weapons,

527
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: how many of those yards come after catch? Cause a

528
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 2: lot of them come in a normal Florida game. Here's

529
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: the number two thing that could totally wreck this. The

530
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 2: number two thing is can you force anywhere close to

531
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Speaker 2: a stalemate on the line of scrimmage? Or is this

532
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: the kind of game where everyone's talking about quarterback, everyone's

533
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: talking about wide receiver, and everyone's talking about these sort

534
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: of ancillary things. But Georgia totally controls the line of

535
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: scrimmage and renders a lot of it meaningless. Do we

536
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: turn this game on in midway through the second quarter

537
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: start texting each other or tweeting that, oh man, dude,

538
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 2: Georgia's wrecking their offensive front. Oh look at the surge

539
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 2: this Georgia offensive line is getting. That's what they're banking on.

540
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: That's what they're banking on. But if it doesn't work

541
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: out that way, and if by defensive score, special team scores,

542
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: just pure offensive scoring, if Florida grabs a seventeen to

543
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: three lead early, or at any point for that matter,

544
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Speaker 2: how does Georgia play catch up?

545
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: There is a lot of talk about JT. Daniels right now.

546
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Speaker 2: There were a lot of folks that thought, hey, this

547
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: is the game, we'll probably see him.

548
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think that's happening.

549
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: But I do wonder, like, in lieu of that, what

550
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: is the game plan to play catch up? I was

551
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: listening to Kirby smart Talk after that Kentucky game, and

552
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: you know, he was kind of vocal about I see

553
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 2: our offense in practice. I know that we can do

554
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: some things, but hey, when we get in the game

555
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Speaker 2: and we realize we're suffocating someone I e. Kentucky, We're

556
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Speaker 2: probably not gonna put our foot down on the floorboard

557
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: too much.

558
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: We don't have to.

559
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: Well, here's how that translates to me. We've got it,

560
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: we just don't need to show it.

561
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Speaker 1: All the time.

562
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Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I flat out think that's incorrect.

563
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Speaker 2: I don't think the Georgia offense possesses that right now. However,

564
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Speaker 2: I've been wrong before, and I am willing to admit

565
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: Kirby smart knows his team just a little bit better

566
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Speaker 2: than I do. So we'll see about that, and in

567
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: Georgia terms, hopefully you don't have to see about that.

568
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: But either way, here's what I can guarantee you, because

569
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Speaker 2: I know both these teams pretty well, and I certainly

570
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Speaker 2: know you guys, Sunday Night will be entertaining this show.

571
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Speaker 2: Sunday Night certainly will be entertaining. That much is for sure.

572
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: All Right, let's shift gears and let's talk about We

573
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: already talked about the.

574
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: Texas game Saturday.

575
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Speaker 2: But some of you may not care about West Virginia

576
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: versus Texas, but I think a lot of you care

577
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 2: about whether there's a hot seat situation and maybe a

578
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: superstar head coach looking to work his way into the

579
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: equation at Texas. There are two things that are not

580
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: going anywhere this year. The Tom Herman hot seat talk

581
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Speaker 2: is probably not going anywhere this year because I think

582
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Speaker 2: most people who have him on the hot seat are

583
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Speaker 2: not going to be convinced.

584
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Speaker 1: After they lost against Oklahoma.

585
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Speaker 2: I don't think a win over Oklahoma State is is

586
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Speaker 2: changing many people's opinion one.

587
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Speaker 1: Way or the other.

588
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: That's not going anywhere, and the smoke about urban Meyer

589
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: is not going anywhere. So I'm perusing the Horns twenty

590
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: four to seven board today and I saw a quote

591
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 2: that I disagreed with. I didn't even write down the poster,

592
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: so I'm sorry, but I was reading, and you tell

593
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: me if you agree with this. It's an opinion deal.

594
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 2: Yours is worth this every bit as much as mine.

595
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: But someone rode on the board. You fire a head

596
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: coach when players stopped playing hard for that coach and

597
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: their teammates. There is no quit on this team yet.

598
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: So in other words, as long as the team hasn't

599
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: quit on Tom Herman, there's no reason to firing now.

600
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: In general, I wholeheartedly disagree with that sentiment. You can

601
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: have plenty of reason to move on from a guy

602
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: whose team hasn't quit on him. I mean, you could

603
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: be zero to ten and still play hard. There are

604
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: a lot of bad teams out there that play hard.

605
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 2: Texas probably not going on to ten this year. But

606
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: my point is independent of Texas. Just in general, I'm

607
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: not a believer in that. That's how you get your

608
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: wagon hitched to a long, long tenure of mediocrity.

609
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Speaker 1: So now we zoom into the Texas situation. Do you

610
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Speaker 1: remember when.

611
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 2: They lost to Oklahoma. I told you I thought that

612
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Speaker 2: was a musc wing game. I told you, in my

613
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: humble opinion, changes would come eventually.

614
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Speaker 1: As a result of that loss. Not the next week,

615
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: but they would come eventually.

616
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Speaker 2: And then do you remember I told you, I think

617
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Speaker 2: it was last week, Colin, It was pretty recently. I

618
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: sat on the Ray Show and I told you I'd

619
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: had some discussions with some Texas buddies of mine, and

620
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: I had presented my viewpoint.

621
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: But I'm not a Texas insider.

622
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: I'm not a Texas fan, so like I don't have

623
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: ownership in the program like they do. I wanted to

624
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: know how they felt, and a lot of you reached

625
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: out afterwards, some of the Texas folks who watched the

626
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: show and listen to the podcast, you reached out afterwards to.

627
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: Voice your opinion.

628
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 2: And it was about eighty twenty in agreement with what

629
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: I felt. But the twenty percent, just to kind of

630
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 2: play Devil's advocate, which I did on the show, I

631
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: told you the twenty percent were saying, well, we can't

632
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: wreck recruiting. If we were to get rid of Tom Herman,

633
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: it would reck recruiting. Well, then, quin youwers D committed

634
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty two class, and that's just an

635
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: absolute mess to have that happen. And so you started

636
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: to see some bleeding and recruiting. This year's class is

637
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: not lighting the world on fire. You've had, I mean,

638
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: big legacy guys like the Brocker Myers leave the state

639
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: and so this was not going to be all that

640
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 2: special class either. So, especially in light of the ers

641
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: D commitment, I went back to them and I said,

642
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: what now, I just want you to I want to

643
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: have a Devil's Advocate argument. So recruitings bleeding. You certainly

644
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: don't have any consistent elite product on the field or

645
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: anything close to elite.

646
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: What are you selling me on?

647
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: All I want to do is I want someone to

648
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: come up and I want you to tell me what

649
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: am I waiting on? Because I can understand someone saying

650
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: you gotta have patience, you got to give them some time.

651
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that, as long as you can give

652
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: me a vision of what is it I'm waiting on?

653
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: What is it?

654
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: You have reason to believe is coming that just hasn't

655
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: come quite yet.

656
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: But you give it a little more time.

657
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Speaker 2: You know the roots will take hold and you will

658
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Speaker 2: eventually see a harvest. What are we waiting to see grow?

659
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Speaker 2: And what signs? What indicators do you have that it'll

660
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Speaker 2: be there? Because I look for it. This is the

661
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Speaker 2: last show you'll come to and hear me calling for

662
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Speaker 2: someone to be fired every week. That's not the kind

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Speaker 2: of show we do. I just think Texas is so

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Speaker 2: much better than they have been, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: that they have the right elements in place right now

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Speaker 2: to maximize that potential.

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Speaker 1: So the game at Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 2: Last week kind of deadened some of the outward criticism,

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Speaker 2: But like I said, I get the same from kind

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Speaker 2: of just the feelers that I get from around that program.

671
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Speaker 2: I don't think many people whose opinions are really going

672
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Speaker 2: to matter on this were swayed all that much last week.

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Speaker 2: Nor do I think a win or a loss Saturday

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Speaker 2: either way changes anyone's opinion. It's you know, I developed

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Speaker 2: my opinion already, so what they do the rest of

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Speaker 2: the year is irrelevant for me.

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Speaker 1: I don't do the whole week to week change of opinion.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was doing one of the consultations that I've been

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Speaker 2: doing with a lot of you guys who are interested

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Speaker 2: in getting into this line of work. And last night,

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Speaker 2: by the way, email me Josh paid seven zero six

683
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Speaker 2: at gmail dot com if you want to get on

684
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Speaker 2: one of those. Got a few slots open for next week.

685
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Speaker 2: So someone asked me, how do you avoid doing that?

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Speaker 2: How do you avoid being very knee jerk, and you know,

687
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Speaker 2: going on the air the day after a loss and

688
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Speaker 2: saying fire this man, And so I gave him the

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Speaker 2: water honey.

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Speaker 1: Analogy, which I've used many times before.

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Speaker 2: This is how you have to think as a rational person,

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Speaker 2: or more importantly, as an athletic director. I always I

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Speaker 2: had to explain to me one time by someone who

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Speaker 2: was in a hiring and firing position. He said, the

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Speaker 2: way you avoid the knee jerk reaction is you put

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Speaker 2: a drop of honey on one plate, and you put

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Speaker 2: a drop of water on another plate, and then you

698
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Speaker 2: turn both the plate sideways and the water drips off immediately.

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Speaker 2: The honey just starts slowly creeping towards the ground and

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Speaker 2: gravity's working on it, but it's gonna take it a

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Speaker 2: little while. He said, you got to be the honey.

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Speaker 2: The fans they can be the water because it's not

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Speaker 2: their job. They can be emotional, it's not their job.

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Speaker 2: You got to be the honey, because if you're the water,

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Speaker 2: you change your mind every quarter and a half, and

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Speaker 2: you end up digging your athletic department in such a

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Speaker 2: hole with so many buyouts to simultaneously pay, that you're

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Speaker 2: never going to be successful. So I try and adopt

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Speaker 2: that mentality as just a neutral observer. I've got my

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Speaker 2: opinion of this current coaching staff. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: going to work out there. But here's the caveat I've

712
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: always had, and here's the caveat I always will have.

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Speaker 2: It's the reason I laugh at folks who criticize Malson

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Speaker 2: at Auburn and call for him to be fired.

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Speaker 1: I criticize it because of the following question.

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Speaker 2: I always ask the same one, who do you have

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Speaker 2: that's going to be definitively better than the man currently

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Speaker 2: in charge. No one's ever able to give me an

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Speaker 2: answer at Auburn right now, there is an answer out

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Speaker 2: there for Texas. The answer is Urban Meyer. Unlike some

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Speaker 2: who have dismissed. That is just ah, that's a laughable notion.

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Speaker 2: I believe that the smoke is legitimate. What I don't

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Speaker 2: believe is anything's been decided. I talked with urban Meyer

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Speaker 2: for like thirty minutes a few months ago. We put

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Speaker 2: the interview on the YouTube channel. Actually, and I just

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Speaker 2: suffice it to say I said at the time, and

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Speaker 2: I will reiterate it now. I don't believe that man's

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Speaker 2: done coaching. I don't believe he believes he's done coaching.

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Speaker 2: So I'll just say that I've never talked to urban

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Speaker 2: Meyer about Texas, never for a second in my life.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to and coach. You can reach out, you

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Speaker 2: got my number, But I'm just independent of that. I

733
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Speaker 2: think they believe that that's a possibility. And if it

734
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Speaker 2: is a possibility, and if they can actually get that done,

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Speaker 2: you've got your definitive upgrade. So that's what we're walting

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Speaker 2: with Texas. I don't know what in the world the

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Speaker 2: results Saturday would have to do with anything, but that's

738
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Speaker 2: what you got going on at Texas. Now, before we

739
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Speaker 2: get out of here, let's talk about the Rama Noodle Express.

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Speaker 2: We are sixty point five percent against the spread this year,

741
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Speaker 2: we are rolling. We are very happy with our results,

742
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Speaker 2: but we could always be better. General reminder, not all

743
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Speaker 2: of these are handed out on a live show. A

744
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: lot of times I hand these out on Twitter. Why

745
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: because we want to lock in an exact number. Case

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Speaker 2: in point, we got Florida plus four and a half

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Speaker 2: the other day. Well then it was only plus three,

748
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Speaker 2: and so some of you were asking do you like

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Speaker 2: it at three? You do with your money what you

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Speaker 2: want to I wanted it four and a half. That's

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Speaker 2: why when we handed it out, it was at four

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Speaker 2: and a half, and we chose that moment. So follow

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Speaker 2: me on Twitter to avoid all that mess at late

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Speaker 2: kick Josh, you will never get a worse number than

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Speaker 2: what we get if you just follow me on there.

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Speaker 2: So Colin, let's take a look at the Rama Noodle

757
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Speaker 2: Express and let's hand out our other best bets for

758
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Speaker 2: the week. We have told you Florida plus four and

759
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Speaker 2: a half was our early best bet that we handed out.

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Speaker 2: We're all over Michigan minus three. That looks like a

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Speaker 2: square number. I don't think it is at all. We

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Speaker 2: love Michigan this week, so lay the three points there.

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Speaker 2: We're taking Utah the pac twelve opener out West Arizona

764
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Speaker 2: is at Utah. We're laying two touchdowns Utah minus fourteen.

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Speaker 2: That's where we want that. Here's a weird one. Pitt

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Speaker 2: is plus one and a half at Florida State. Our

767
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Speaker 2: model loves Pitt this week, so we're taking the one

768
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Speaker 2: and a half points. We think they're gonna win the

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Speaker 2: game outright. Texas Tech is on the road at TCU.

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Speaker 2: We're taking the Red Raiders plus nine. In summary, very quickly,

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Speaker 2: Florida plus four and a half, Michigan minus three, Utah

772
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Speaker 2: minus fourteen, pit plus one and a half, Texas Tech

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Speaker 2: plus nine, And a general word of warning, I've done

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Speaker 2: it the last I think three weeks, and I'm gonna

775
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Speaker 2: give you the warning again. I do not believe that

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Speaker 2: we're done for this weekend. So that means you need

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Speaker 2: to be following me on Twitter at late kick Josh.

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Speaker 2: A lot of those are handed out on Saturday morning

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. As we close.

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Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, we got a heads up

782
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Speaker 2: that the Southern miss quarterback was going to be out

783
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Speaker 2: against Liberty. We found that out about twenty minutes before

784
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: twenty to thirty minutes for the general market din so

785
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: we locked in liberty. That line ended up moving like

786
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Speaker 2: four or five points right before kickoff, so we were

787
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Speaker 2: in on it, and that's not something I possibly could

788
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Speaker 2: have known Thursday night. So the point is, I'm not

789
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Speaker 2: always live on the air when we find out that stuff.

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Speaker 2: So you want to be following me there, I think

791
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: I've given out that handle enough again. Also for any

792
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Speaker 2: of you who are aspiring to get into some line

793
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: of work similar even to what we do here, maybe

794
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: you just want to crank up a YouTube channel and

795
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: make it about roofing, I don't care. You know I

796
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: have experienced in it and I'm happy to listen to

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00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: you and talk to you. So if you want to

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Speaker 2: schedule one of those Zoom consultations, I'm available of that.

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Speaker 1: Got some open slots.

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Speaker 2: I had a couple of folks had to back out tomorrow,

801
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: so got some open slots. Email me Josh paid seven

802
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: zero six at gmail dot com, or you can DM

803
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: me on Twitter at lake Kick Josh.

804
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Speaker 1: All right, we got to get out of here.

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Speaker 2: For director Colin, for Jordan, for tany on the podcast side,

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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Pate, have a great weekend, Enjoy the football

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Speaker 2: and God bless