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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Colley Wit. Welcome to Eating while Broken. Today

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Speaker 1: we have some pretty amazing guests. We have Kidding and

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Speaker 1: his beautiful, lovely, amazing wife Asia, and today what are

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Speaker 1: we making? Assie is going to leave this whole episode

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Speaker 1: and teach us how to make pizza toast? Today's pizza toast. Typically,

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about eating while broke in the house,

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Speaker 1: you might not have pizza sauce, but you might have

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Speaker 1: spaghetti sauce that works as well. You'll usually have bread,

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Speaker 1: hopefully you know the basics. Cheese. We have some turkey pepperoni,

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Speaker 1: which I know isn't typical, but we don't eat pork,

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Speaker 1: and some jalapeno peppers and those are pickled pickled, But

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Speaker 1: which is interesting? I mean the sliced ones you get

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Speaker 1: are pickled, like on top of your nachos. Oh okay,

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Speaker 1: j I thought I had to look it's pickled instead

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Speaker 1: of fresh. Remind you this. This whole purpose is because

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Speaker 1: obviously I can't order a pizza, so the next best

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Speaker 1: this is trying to find whatever ingredients you have at

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Speaker 1: home to try to make that piece of makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So first you wash your hands, then you're gonna dress

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Speaker 1: up your pizza, everyone grabs like, I'll grab one. So

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Speaker 1: when was the last time you guys can remember actually

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Speaker 1: eating a meal like this? She was mentioned earlier. We

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Speaker 1: still have to eat like this occasionally on the road

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Speaker 1: because on the road, out out there, out the country,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you have to, you know what I'm saying, get

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Speaker 1: just as creative based on what you have available to you.

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Speaker 1: But you find those things and then you mix it

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Speaker 1: up and whip it up. A couple of noodles is

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Speaker 1: one of the you know what I'm saying, still regular

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Speaker 1: things on tour, the ramen any type of noodle work.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's humbled on sore when you're on a road trip

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Speaker 1: or you're on the tour bus and your kid dry

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Speaker 1: the year in the middle of nowhere, whatever that gas

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Speaker 1: station is that you gotta stop at. Whatever they have

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Speaker 1: is what you've got, unless you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: you stocked up at the grocery store, which is something

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Speaker 1: we learned to do when we would get to cities

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Speaker 1: that would have the nice grocery store. Like if you're

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Speaker 1: a lot more familiar imports than maybe Germany. You stock

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Speaker 1: up over there, and then when I get to Germany,

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Speaker 1: hopefully I still got a lot of that stuff left over.

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Speaker 1: A whole plan. I feel like this looks real official

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Speaker 1: it does. I feel like I'm treating it way better

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Speaker 1: than I did when I was younger. Obviously I was

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Speaker 1: probably a little less. Can we add the llapenos after

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Speaker 1: we cook? Absolutely? Can you can put it on top.

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Speaker 1: I'm in a bake mine in. Will you pass me

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Speaker 1: the little cheese with you being a chef Awesia. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you had a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: eating while broke? Um? Yes, you know, we did have

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Speaker 1: fun eating while broke. We got really creative, Like we

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Speaker 1: produced for cheap and like you know, cheap shrimp like

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Speaker 1: the little bay shrimps and imitation crab and make ours

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Speaker 1: to chat for like all day long. You know, when

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Speaker 1: I was a school by the time I was out

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Speaker 1: it was probably a little bit more fast food. So

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Speaker 1: my fast food go to wasn't McDonald's. I do eat

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Speaker 1: McDonald's from time to time, but it was El Boil

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Speaker 1: Loco and she was I would live off these BRC burritos.

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Speaker 1: There are dollars. I would live the mean and they

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Speaker 1: used to have They don't have them anymore. That's why

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Speaker 1: I don't eat Eloil Local anymore. They don't have the

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Speaker 1: barbecue black beans they used to have, which were like crack.

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Speaker 1: You would get this BRC with barbecue black beads, throw

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Speaker 1: know it was they were living that good at Elpot Local.

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Speaker 1: I was still like getting the burgers and just adding

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Speaker 1: So I literally copied Brian so like I didn't look

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Speaker 1: like I'm going to put them directly on the rack. Okay,

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Speaker 1: living like this. Today we're gonna eat I guess lobster

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Speaker 1: It just wasn't that time. And then timing, you know

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Speaker 1: like my first tour because I got to actually see

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Speaker 1: the money ahead. So like working in the meeting, what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, sometimes you're just working, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It was points where I was doing. I was probably

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Speaker 1: on my third mixtape, and I wasn't like I was

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Speaker 1: a celebrity system and you know what I'm saying, was

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Speaker 1: occasionally booking a show We're here every couple of months

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Speaker 1: But when I saw that first tour and it was

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Speaker 1: is this? Man? I'm sure you ready? So I get

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Speaker 1: to just live every day? What do they call it?

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Speaker 1: What do they call that daily allowance? Right right? Were

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Speaker 1: the nice car? Really? But I don't think it was you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it comes as like the beach in the beginning.

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Speaker 1: They knew my name at Sacks. Yes, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: I wasn't in there like Louis don't care how much

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Speaker 1: one's five. You still do that? But that that wasn't

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Speaker 1: don't have to wait until that comes next time? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the more entertainers I meet. At first, when I used

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Speaker 1: It's not just writing a song or producing a record.

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Speaker 1: It's emails look crazy, So times I have to have

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Speaker 1: cool with that. So you know what I'm saying, They

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Speaker 1: got that done and I can't remember who the business

430
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Speaker 1: was with it. But then after that, you know, that

431
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Speaker 1: opens up the doors. So then I meet different people

432
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: or you know, at the time, because that's us. My

433
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Speaker 1: mom made it moments. That was my mom made a

434
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Speaker 1: moment for sure, and then go back to the to

435
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Speaker 1: the hood, and then it's like, all right, we're back

436
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Speaker 1: to regular. And then I get the record that I

437
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: made for Nipsey Bullets. Ain't got no names. And then

438
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: that you know, he gets the deal off that that

439
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Speaker 1: blows up another Mama made a moment, made my first

440
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Speaker 1: check for five thousand dollars. Again, it took three months,

441
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: but you can't do nothing about that. So imagine, you know,

442
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: all right, and that's not anyone from his team's problem.

443
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Speaker 1: That's the labels, you know what I'm saying, Like I said,

444
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Speaker 1: labels work, So he was with Sony, I think at

445
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Speaker 1: the time, and they're not like thinking about me, like, yeah,

446
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Speaker 1: we gotta make sure we get him the bag I

447
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: think I had already. They flew me out to New York.

448
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: I hung out, I was making all kind of bees,

449
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,959
Speaker 1: doing this and this and that, and then they got

450
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: to a point where I was in New York like, yo, man,

451
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Speaker 1: you get paid because I'm running out of money. So

452
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, my mom only gave me like two dollars

453
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: for like two weeks trying to figure out what we're

454
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Speaker 1: doing here. And then I ended up from that moment

455
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Speaker 1: leaving New York, going back home and back to regular

456
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Speaker 1: lifestyle again. So then like that was another almost made

457
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Speaker 1: a moment, and then you know what I'm saying, but

458
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: that opened up the doors for me, you know what

459
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying, going to the studio with Nipsey and then

460
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Speaker 1: meeting young Bird Hitmaker now and then you know that

461
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Speaker 1: opened the doors for me me dj ill Will, which

462
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Speaker 1: opened the doors for me dropping my first mixtape, which

463
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Speaker 1: then trickled down to where we are now. So I think,

464
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Speaker 1: you know, it's different moments where I was like I

465
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Speaker 1: made it and then it turned around. But then I

466
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Speaker 1: see how that turned into something else, always becoming. So, now,

467
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Speaker 1: was there ever a point where you felt like you

468
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Speaker 1: had to choose between the nine five? Now? I know

469
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Speaker 1: your mom, so I know she's all about, you know,

470
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Speaker 1: fight for your dreams and go after what you want.

471
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Speaker 1: I don't think she has a settlement plan ever for

472
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Speaker 1: any of you guys. But was there ever a moment

473
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Speaker 1: where you thought prior to the four hundred, because I'm

474
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Speaker 1: sure that was like, That's what I'm doing forever, right?

475
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Speaker 1: So yeah, So I think my my first like real

476
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Speaker 1: job that I went out and got was retail. It

477
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Speaker 1: was easy to go to the mall, to a bunch

478
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Speaker 1: of applications to who hired you. I worked at the

479
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Speaker 1: Gap and then I I always knew I wanted to

480
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Speaker 1: do music, so I always had this mindset like, all right,

481
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: when you work in nine five, though, make sure it's

482
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Speaker 1: something that's not going to hurt your future. You know

483
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. When they bring it back up and

484
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, why were you doing that though? So

485
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Retail with something I was

486
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: always in a fashion. I got the easy job at

487
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Speaker 1: the Gap. It wasn't really my vibe as far as

488
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just the work that they

489
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Speaker 1: had us doing, I felt, you know, just like I

490
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: was just folting T shirts all day and wasn't really

491
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Speaker 1: selling any clothes or any clothes that I was into.

492
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Speaker 1: So then I moved from there and got a job

493
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Speaker 1: in Northroom because I knew some smarty who worked in

494
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Speaker 1: North rooms. They hooked me up. And this is all

495
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: prior to your passion for music. Yeah, well know, I

496
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: always made music. So it was like when I was fifteen,

497
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Speaker 1: before I had a job, I always made music. I

498
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Speaker 1: think my mom, like every not like every boy. The

499
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Speaker 1: normal l A kid thing from the too is you're

500
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Speaker 1: gonna do some extra work and do some acting, so

501
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Speaker 1: you know, just throw me in to the acting. We

502
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Speaker 1: get an Asian, they have you do a couple of

503
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Speaker 1: things here, and you know, and then whatever and then

504
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: some people making some people don't, I guess, But for me, uh,

505
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Speaker 1: you know, I did the acting thing for a minute,

506
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Speaker 1: but then I start getting tattoos when I was sixteen,

507
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: and then that kind of took away from me trying

508
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Speaker 1: to be able to do any Disney any vibes that

509
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: was gonna be like your music has played in Disney movies,

510
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Speaker 1: and you know, I see how there were certain things

511
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Speaker 1: that not for sure I have I don't know something

512
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Speaker 1: kids movies, kids Disney single yet there, but I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, the there's certain things that I started to

514
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Speaker 1: realize came from me just doing what I loved and

515
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: what I had a passion for, and other stuff was

516
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Speaker 1: just start to come just from being good at you

517
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying this, and then they might open

518
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Speaker 1: up doors for other opportunities for me to get into that.

519
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Speaker 1: I've always wanted to go to X games my old life.

520
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: I got to perform at X games. I always wanted

521
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: to go. I always wanted to go to a wrestling match.

522
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Speaker 1: My first wrestling match. I got to perform at WrestleMania.

523
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Speaker 1: Like these are things that I probably never thought I

524
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Speaker 1: was ever going to be able to do unless I

525
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: did certain things or met certain people, or I didn't

526
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 1: think like raps gonna get me in WrestleMania. But if

527
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: if I was younger, I probably would have been even

528
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Speaker 1: more into it, like what raps can give me WrestleMania?

529
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: But I didn't. I didn't know. But when I saw

530
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: how it all worked out, I was like, Yo, that

531
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: was pretty cool, Like that was something that happened right,

532
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: Like it was definitely manifested, and it was something that

533
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: again I just didn't I wanted to do, but didn't

534
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Speaker 1: know that that was going to bring me to getting

535
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Speaker 1: to that place. So you know, and I have a

536
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Speaker 1: WrestleMania chair in my house that I didn't have to

537
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, hustle for on eBay the

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Speaker 1: examply Now before we close out, I'm just curious, since

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Speaker 1: we are on the topic and manifesting came out, what

540
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Speaker 1: do you think are like three secrets to success? Um

541
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: going from being broke in your living room around naysayers

542
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 1: or or or whomever to where you are at now?

543
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: What what's consistent the most in your everyday life? Would

544
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: you say? And towards the goal of success, there's not

545
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: a ceiling you have, Like everyone puts some type of

546
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: expectation of when they need to feel successful by or

547
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: how much money they have to be to be successful.

548
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: There's no ceiling. Once you accomplish one, you're going to

549
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: go onto the next, or if this one fails, you're

550
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: going to go on to the next. There's no ceiling.

551
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: Keep going, keep doing it, even with musicians. Maybe you

552
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: won't be the next rapper, but there are musicians making

553
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: a living off of music in hundreds of different fields.

554
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: You know, Like yeah, that I and I think that

555
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: the thing that you realize most of course, like speaking

556
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: things into existence, speaking things out of existence. It's important. Mean,

557
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: some people can you know, you're definitely always supposed to

558
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: have those moments where you can vent and get things out,

559
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: but you always gotta have that confidence there. And I

560
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: think you know that confidence is what you see a

561
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: lot of people strive from where you go, how did

562
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: that person do that with no talent because they walked

563
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: in the building. Like when they say, when you're walk

564
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: in the build, no one's gonna ask you where if

565
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be there. If you got the right confidence,

566
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to steal that. You gotta be that when

567
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: you walk in the building and be exactly you know

568
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, what it is, and not have any

569
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: I guess you know, insecurities on that behalf and people

570
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: look at you the exact same where you know, even

571
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: with smith skin, when i feel like I'm going to

572
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: like pull my hair out literally and just run away

573
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: from it all, I get dressed up really nice. When

574
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: I go on the office the next day. You know,

575
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: it just makes me feel clothing. It makes me feel like,

576
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: I ca baby, I'm here. I could be at home

577
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: in the home studio, and I can tell that if

578
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: I was at home, locked in and sweats for a week,

579
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: that just that one Friday, even if I wasn't going awhere,

580
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: that I got mad, dressed up through all my chains

581
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: on and went to the backyard to the studio. The

582
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: energy is going to be different. It's gonna be a

583
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: little bit more of feeling myself when I'm in there

584
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: instead of just working. I think it's a little rap

585
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: and more of it's more of an energy. Or you

586
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: look at it's like, look what I got, Look where

587
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: It makes sense. I never even thought of that, yea,

588
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: to be honest, but it does make sense. Like, you know,

589
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: when you look good, you feel good, and your confidence

590
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: is that you feel like, hey, I guess I learned

591
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: that the hard way, and she already had it on point.

592
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: When you're in the gym. I didn't used to care

593
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: about what I was wearing in the gym. I would

594
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: just go to the gym. But once I started getting

595
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: matched up, like I was like, are you matching shoes too?

596
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: And then I would get messed up. I could understand,

597
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: like I look in the mirror, like we're gonna work

598
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: out today, Yeah, we work Looking at the shoes is blue.

599
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna see me running And it's a whole different

600
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: mentality than if you're just going there in the mid

601
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: feast joint you like, I'm working on my wife beater today,

602
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: and that is what it is. Well, thank you guys

603
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: so much for coming out, especially on your birthday. So

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00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: today we're gonna close out. I got you a couple

605
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: of different cake options so we can all gain weight,

606
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: so you guys can compete in the work original. I

607
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: don't know if it's vanilla in there, best vanilla chocolate hair. Yeah, yo, man,

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00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for chilling with us. You know what

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Speaker 1: it is eating while broke. Yeah, this amazing piece of toast.

610
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Speaker 1: And I hope y'all learned something new today. Yes, with

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Speaker 1: kidding and Assia, we had awesome pizza toast today. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for more eating while broke. From My Heart Radio

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