WEBVTT - #756 Packers Unscripted: In the hunt

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my trusted colleague Weston Hodkoitz. We're coming to you

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<v Speaker 1>here from our studios at lambeau Field a day late

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<v Speaker 1>this week, West because of the holiday, but we are

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<v Speaker 1>here to talk about a Christmas Eve victory by the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Packers in Carolina. Thirty three to thirty was

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<v Speaker 1>the final score. And just when you thought maybe something

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<v Speaker 1>would come easy for the Packers this year, a fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>point lead with about eleven minutes to go in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter. Of course, the game comes right down to

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<v Speaker 1>the wire, because that's just what this season has been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about, a lot to dissect as

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<v Speaker 1>far as how that all went down. But the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>line is the Packers got a victory. They are still

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<v Speaker 1>alive in the NFC playoff hunt with two games to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, this one, it would have been an ab

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<v Speaker 1>slew crusher to let it get away, but fortunately the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers did not.

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<v Speaker 2>It was when we were leaving and we were on

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<v Speaker 2>the bus and both of us are writing scrambling, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot going on. There wasn't a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 2>time for fun and festivity. But I was thinking in

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<v Speaker 2>my head when I sat in my seat. It almost

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<v Speaker 2>reminded me of the scene of from Bull Durham of

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<v Speaker 2>Nukelelous and Crash Davis in the back where Nuke walks

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<v Speaker 2>up and he's got the beers or everything. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, winning it's better than losing, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? And then you know, then the Crash is

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there half in the bag as well, having a

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<v Speaker 2>different approach everything. That's kind of what this game was

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of ways for the Green Bay Packers,

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<v Speaker 2>because let's just boil it down to brass tacks. The

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<v Speaker 2>Packers had to win this game, and they achieved that goal.

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<v Speaker 2>Was not pretty. It was definitely ugly at times, but

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<v Speaker 2>they went into another team's house and they got the

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<v Speaker 2>victory they needed. So there is that we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>meaningful Week seventeen football. They are in the same position

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<v Speaker 2>right now as the Minnesota Vikings at seven and eight,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to keep their playoff hopes alive. What impressed me

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<v Speaker 2>this game was the first half. I thought offensively, green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay did a lot of positive things. Aaron Jones back

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<v Speaker 2>in the lineup and at a time in which they

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<v Speaker 2>desperately needed him to perform without Jaden Reid, which kind

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<v Speaker 2>of caught me off guard. I just figured he would

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<v Speaker 2>just keep pushing through and play through that toe injury.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not able to go. Christian Watson isn't back, don

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<v Speaker 2>Tavian Wicks leaves at halftime. You needed a playmaker like

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Jones to make plays defensively, kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa game without the takeaway. Played pretty well early on,

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<v Speaker 2>they had an adverse situation where there was the roughing

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<v Speaker 2>the kicker, roughing the punter. They had to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>They got another three and out. They were up twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three to ten at halftime, and things were really going

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<v Speaker 2>their way. But as we've talked about so many times, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>when second half, how things can change, how adjustments can

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<v Speaker 2>be made. And what impressed me about this game is,

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<v Speaker 2>unlike the Atlanta game earlier this season where the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>let it get away and they didn't recover, green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>did recover. I thought that showed the growth of Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Love and thankfully for green Bay saved by the bell

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<v Speaker 2>as you wrote an inbox, being able to ride this

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<v Speaker 2>thing out for the victory.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was as frustrating as it was to see

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<v Speaker 1>the defense really lose control of the game in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half, because I agree with you. In the first

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<v Speaker 1>half of that the Packers defense played pretty well, got

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<v Speaker 1>a big fourth and short stop around midfield that set

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<v Speaker 1>up the Packers for a touchdown just before halftime that

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<v Speaker 1>you put the score at twenty three to ten. Things

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<v Speaker 1>are looking pretty good. The Packers extended that lead by

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<v Speaker 1>three more points of the third quarter, you started to

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<v Speaker 1>see the cracks in the defense though, when the Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>put together a long drive I believe it was fourteen plays,

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<v Speaker 1>took more than eight minutes off the clock in the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter, and you wondered if that would have an

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<v Speaker 1>impact on the defense in the fourth quarter, And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>it did, because the Panthers were able to put together

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<v Speaker 1>the back to back touchdown drives at the same time

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<v Speaker 1>that a Packers offense that really had been humming along

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well suddenly has back to back three and outs

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter, and the momentum in this game

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<v Speaker 1>just had completely flipped the other way. Bryce started, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he just started rolling. He was having the game of

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<v Speaker 1>his life. Quite frankly, as far as his rookie year

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, he probably felt like he was back

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<v Speaker 1>at Alabama the way he was running around and throwing

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<v Speaker 1>darts and everything else. What I liked about this game

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<v Speaker 1>more than anything else was you said it the Atlanta game.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think about the Vegas game and the Denver game,

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<v Speaker 1>when the Packers offense needed to have a drive when

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<v Speaker 1>it's back was against the wall, when all the momentum

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<v Speaker 1>was pointing against the team and the offense had to respond.

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<v Speaker 1>It did in this one. You had the big pass

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<v Speaker 1>to Romeo Dobbs on third and four. You had the

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<v Speaker 1>really nice catch and run by Tyler sorry Tucker Craft

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<v Speaker 1>on the pass over the middle that was threaded in

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<v Speaker 1>between two defenders, and you're able to run the clock

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<v Speaker 1>down all the way down to twenty two seconds. You

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<v Speaker 1>kick the field goal. There's only nineteen seconds left on

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<v Speaker 1>the clock. The Packers offense. Everything seem to have flipped

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<v Speaker 1>the other way in this game on both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, and the offense answered the call and put

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<v Speaker 1>together the drive that was needed, the type of drive

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<v Speaker 1>that had been missing in other games throughout the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and let's be honest here, too, Mike. If Bryce

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<v Speaker 2>Young is going to have the game of his career

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<v Speaker 2>so far one hundred and ten passer rating, two passing

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<v Speaker 2>touchdowns after a month in which he did not have one,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to have a response from your quarterback. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Jordan Love was exceptional in this game. The

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<v Speaker 2>pass to Tucker Kraft, Mike, He's thrown a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>great balls this year in terms of intermediate routes underneath routes.

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<v Speaker 2>That was about his pinpoint accurate as I think I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen from him this season. Yeah, there was not an

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<v Speaker 2>inch to spare on either side of that ball, And

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<v Speaker 2>credit to Kraft for bringing that one in because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's a makeable kick yet you know Anders had

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<v Speaker 2>made the fifty three yarder, but it's definitely bigger question

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<v Speaker 2>mark if he doesn't get that reception, if they don't

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<v Speaker 2>find a way to sneak their way into the red zone,

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<v Speaker 2>make it really a chip shot. Jordan was exceptional And

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<v Speaker 2>what more or can you say about his past to

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<v Speaker 2>don Tavian Wicks too. Again, similar to last week with

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<v Speaker 2>Jayden Reid kind of seeing through the clutter and this

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<v Speaker 2>guy is showing Mike when he can extend plays and

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the pocket. How dangerous he can be.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the number one trait that I look at

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<v Speaker 2>with him that I see the shades of Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 2>and the influence of Aaron Rodgers, because he isn't just

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<v Speaker 2>again like I said to you last week, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the Madden rollout. It's not just the Okay, I got

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<v Speaker 2>the ball and now I'm gonna try to get away

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<v Speaker 2>from the pass rushers as quickly as possible. He is

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<v Speaker 2>reading the field, he's going through his progressions, and he

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<v Speaker 2>is allowing his playmakers to make plays for him. Don

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<v Speaker 2>Tavian Wicks making a great catch on that to get

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<v Speaker 2>off one of those early scores.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought Jordan Love was outstanding in this game

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<v Speaker 1>when you factor in as you mentioned before, Watson was

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<v Speaker 1>not back, Jayden Reid had to miss the game. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Musgrave was not back. The big thing, the big

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<v Speaker 1>boost that this offense got was the old Aaron Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, borderline, workhorse type of type of running back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know Mattle Floyd talked about he was running

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<v Speaker 1>out of gas a little bit at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, which is why you know, on a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of those those three and outs in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if jones tank hadn't been quite so close

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<v Speaker 1>to empty, maybe the Packers were able to grind out

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<v Speaker 1>and do something a little bit more on offense there.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jones with the twenty one carries one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven yards also had an eight yard reception early

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<v Speaker 1>in the game, so one hundred and thirty five yards

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<v Speaker 1>from scrimmage. You can't overstate how important he is to

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<v Speaker 1>the offense and how important he was to Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 1>in a game where so many, so many of the

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<v Speaker 1>other weapons were missing.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote my sidebar, which we call Keys of the Game,

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<v Speaker 2>which you can still read on Packers dot com if

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<v Speaker 2>you're still there so willing to do so. And the

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<v Speaker 2>big thing on that was Jones and Dobbs. And this

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<v Speaker 2>came later in the game, after all that production that

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<v Speaker 2>Jones had early on, but Dobbs went up to him

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, hey, we got to make a play,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was at that moment that Green Bay was

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<v Speaker 2>needing a response. The game is thirty to thirty. I

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<v Speaker 2>looked at this game as something that Aaron Jones started

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<v Speaker 2>in Romeo Dobbs finished in the first half eighty nine

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<v Speaker 2>rushing yards for Jones only thirteen receiving yards one catch

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<v Speaker 2>for Dobbs in the first half. Second half, he ends

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<v Speaker 2>up having three more catches, finishes with seventy nine yards,

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<v Speaker 2>gets a touchdown pass on kind of that quick out,

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<v Speaker 2>that sprint out that kept the momentum going for them there.

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<v Speaker 2>But then the thirty six yard reception down the sideline.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there was some controversy about it. I know

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Thielen felt some type of way about it down

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<v Speaker 2>in Carolina, But the fact of the matter is the

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<v Speaker 2>longest catch of Romeo Dobbs' career and when the Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>For as much as we've talked this season, Mike about

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<v Speaker 2>rookies in unexpected contributions, guys stepping up at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to make a playoff push, you need

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<v Speaker 2>your stars, you need your stable, you need your constants. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't think over the last two years there's

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<v Speaker 2>probably any two bigger constants right now than Romeo Dobbs

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<v Speaker 2>and Aaron Jones. That is your workhorse. That is where

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<v Speaker 2>you go to. That for Jordan is where the experience

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<v Speaker 2>comes from. Despite the fact Romeo's only twenty three it's

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that have seen the most ball at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what impressed me about this game. For as

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<v Speaker 2>many times as I've written in our sidebars and we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about these young guys who have stepped up, this

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<v Speaker 2>game came back to the guys that have been around,

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<v Speaker 2>that have been there, that have done that, and they

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<v Speaker 2>made the plays when they need to be made.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And I know the Packers have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to sort out on the defensive side of the ball

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<v Speaker 1>with what is going on. They turned over the cornerback

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<v Speaker 1>spots to Jay r Alexander and Eric Stokes in this

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<v Speaker 1>game when they'd been running for quite a while with

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<v Speaker 1>Carrington Valentine and Corey Ballentine, so there was a change

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<v Speaker 1>up there. There was obviously a more aggressive approach with

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<v Speaker 1>the pass rush. There was more blitzing, particularly early in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. I think Carolina adjusted to that. Bryce Young

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<v Speaker 1>started to get the ball out of his hands at

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit Quicker also started to bolt the pocket

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit sooner when he felt that pressure coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll say this, you know we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>sit here and discuss whatever it is that Matt Lafleur

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<v Speaker 1>is a value waiting in decisions that he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>going to ultimately make. But this was a good example,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it was at the packers expense, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it at the Packers' expense over the last few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no substitute for a player in this league

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<v Speaker 1>getting a jolt of confidence, and we saw it from

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Young. He is a rookie quarterback, number one overall pick,

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<v Speaker 1>a team that that you know, by and larger shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say a team because they've had a defense that's been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty solid this year, but an offense in general that

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<v Speaker 1>was in a rebuilding mode in Carolina, not an offense

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<v Speaker 1>that's ready for a rookie quarterback to just step in

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<v Speaker 1>and run things. So there, you know, have been all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of struggles throughout the year. But once Bryce Young

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<v Speaker 1>started feeling it, man, he I mean, whatever had happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the previous fourteen games this season went right out

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<v Speaker 1>the window because he'd looked like the Heisman Trophy winner.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd looked like the number one overall pick. When guys,

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<v Speaker 1>when guys get that, when guys get that jolt of

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in this league, it's really you have to try

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<v Speaker 1>to do something to take it away. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>try to flip the momentum back. The Packers weren't able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. Whether it's whether it's Baker Mayfield, who

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<v Speaker 1>is an accomplished quarterback in this league, a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>gotten his team to the playoffs and won a playoff

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<v Speaker 1>game and another stop in his career, then started hopping

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<v Speaker 1>around to different teams. He started to get the he

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<v Speaker 1>started to feel that level of confidence and he got

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<v Speaker 1>rolling and the Packers weren't able to stop it. And

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Young did the same thing. It took him to

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter for him, but once he started doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fortunately the Panthers ran out of time on

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<v Speaker 1>the final drive because if they'd been able to kick

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<v Speaker 1>a field goal there wes I said it an insider inbox,

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like that if they kicked the field goal

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<v Speaker 1>and tie the game and it goes to overtime, it

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<v Speaker 1>felt like the only way the Packers were going to

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<v Speaker 1>win that game is to win the toss in overtime

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<v Speaker 1>and go down and score a touchdown and not let

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce Young touch the ball again because the Packers just

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<v Speaker 1>weren't stopping him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the weird thing about it is when I was

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<v Speaker 2>watching this game and then you know, even getting a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to go back and let read get it again

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<v Speaker 2>in real time, I could see. I mean that first

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<v Speaker 2>quarter was rough for Young. Yes, there was no touch

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<v Speaker 2>on his passes, didn't seem like there was much on

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<v Speaker 2>the pass as either. He just looked unsure, he looked mechanical.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think he was. I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>caught off guard by the aggressive approach with the pass

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<v Speaker 1>rush that the Packers were sending a fifth, sometimes a

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<v Speaker 1>sixth rusher in certain instances. He didn't react very well

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<v Speaker 1>and his passes were off the mark, and but he

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<v Speaker 1>settled down their offense as a whole adjusted to it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers really didn't have a CounterPunch to knock that

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<v Speaker 1>momentum back the other way once it started going the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Young made a couple plays early in that

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<v Speaker 2>second quarter that I think can directly be attributed to

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<v Speaker 2>him gaining some of that confidence too, because in those

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<v Speaker 2>moments he was making something where there may be was

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to be made of. I think there was a

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<v Speaker 2>one pass he had a DJ Shark definitely. Tremble ended

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<v Speaker 2>up being a guy that he was able to have

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<v Speaker 2>a sort of an outlier, a guy he could look

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<v Speaker 2>for and feel confident in his throws with. And once

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<v Speaker 2>he started making some tougher throws, that's when it seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like in the second half things started to get easier

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<v Speaker 2>for him. He started to make the things that are

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<v Speaker 2>based more on getting the ball out, playing on time,

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<v Speaker 2>seeing what green Bay's giving you, an adjusting to that.

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<v Speaker 2>In the fourth quarter, he was nothing short of exceptional.

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<v Speaker 2>I think green Bay again, whatever the reason is, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fell back into those doldrums of way too much space,

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<v Speaker 2>way too much uncontested catches and guys like Adam Feelin.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, dude, Adam Feelin Mike. I said it all

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<v Speaker 2>last week. I've set it for two years now. The

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<v Speaker 2>guy's well over thirty. Now. He is on the north

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<v Speaker 2>side of this thing. The Minnesota Vikings clearly felt like

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<v Speaker 2>they were ready to go another direction. I still think

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<v Speaker 2>he has a lot to give this game. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>one handed catch, the snag he had on the side

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<v Speaker 2>that was able to bring up. What happened was Bryce

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<v Speaker 2>Young started making plays and his receivers started making plays

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<v Speaker 2>for him, and it no longer was okay. Well, they

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<v Speaker 2>got DJ Shark and a bunch of old guys. It

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<v Speaker 2>was no. I mean, they got some guys that are

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<v Speaker 2>going to step up and play for him in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>As you said, that fourth quarter, so much of it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be on the defense. Understandably so because it

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<v Speaker 2>went right up to that final second. But I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of took on a bunch of people in Insider inbox

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<v Speaker 2>that were like, well, why is Matt Lafleur throwing the

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<v Speaker 2>offense under the bus. There are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>saying that, and it's like, well, the reason he did

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<v Speaker 2>that is one, everybody has a part to play in

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<v Speaker 2>this thing, and two they weren't. It was going back

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<v Speaker 2>to early season Packers football, where it was the defense

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<v Speaker 2>was having these long sustained drives, opposing team was scoring,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the Packers went three and out twice. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to be able to lift up the other phases

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<v Speaker 2>of this thing. We'll see what this defense looks like

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday. We have a lot of previewing to do

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<v Speaker 2>Mike and our content. But Nick Mallins just threw four interceptions.

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<v Speaker 2>The Minnesota Vikings aren't saying who their quarterback's going to be,

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<v Speaker 2>right the Grimmitt Packers, there's a very easy, clear blueprint

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<v Speaker 2>for what needs to happen here if things are going

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<v Speaker 2>to turn around. I think it gets back to taking

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<v Speaker 2>away the football, which they just have not been doing lately.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I agree with you there, And I'll say

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<v Speaker 1>this with regard I'll say this with regard to the offense. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers had put up I believe it was the

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<v Speaker 1>first play of the fourth quarter. They scored the touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>with Dobbs and they're at thirty points one play into

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter. But how many times have I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it, Wes wins. You can't win a game in

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<v Speaker 1>this league in the first three quarters. You can't. What

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<v Speaker 1>matters is what you do in the fourth quarter. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you can lose a game in the first three quarters.

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<v Speaker 1>You can play badly enough to lose one. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>hard to win a game in the first three quarters.

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<v Speaker 1>And the offense, for all the good that they had done,

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<v Speaker 1>the way the game unfolded and how you have to

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<v Speaker 1>perform at crunch time, the offense didn't get it done

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<v Speaker 1>until the final drive when they had to have it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did get it. And that's what you hang

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<v Speaker 1>your hat on in this game. And then you learn

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<v Speaker 1>from what went wrong. On the back to back three

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<v Speaker 1>and outs that stalled what had been a really, really

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<v Speaker 1>impressive and productive offensive day against a pretty darn good defense.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing I'll say too, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>a credit to Chris Tabor. It's a credit to the

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers because they could easily tucktail and call it a

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<v Speaker 2>day and just focused on getting through the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the season. It's not like Carolina came out and scored

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<v Speaker 2>immediately after that touchdown at Dobs. They actually end up

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<v Speaker 2>having to punt again, right, but Johnny Hecker flips the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay has to start at its own eleven, and

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay's unable to move the ball after that play.

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<v Speaker 2>When Carolina got the ball to forty, that's where their

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<v Speaker 2>scoring started. So when you talk about complimentary football in

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<v Speaker 2>all three phases, serving as one, the Panthers did it

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<v Speaker 2>terrifically brilliantly in that fourth quarter, But in the totality

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<v Speaker 2>of a game, Green Bay did it longer and more consistently,

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<v Speaker 2>and as ugly as it looked at times, the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>did do what it took to win that football game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just goes to show how important crunch time

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<v Speaker 1>is in this league because if the Packers had let

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<v Speaker 1>that one get away, a lot of good on both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the ball through the first three quarters would

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<v Speaker 1>have felt like it had all been thrown in the

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<v Speaker 1>Where things sit right now in the NFC. Don't look now,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Detroit Lions not only won their first Division

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<v Speaker 1>championship in thirty years, they are tied with two other teams,

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<v Speaker 1>that being the Philadelphia Eagles and the San Francisco forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine ers at eleven and four in the race for

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<v Speaker 1>the number one seed and the only playoff buy that

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<v Speaker 1>comes with it. Those three squads eleven and four with

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks to go. As far as the wild card

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<v Speaker 1>situation goes, right now, you have the Los Angeles Rams

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<v Speaker 1>and the Seattle Seahawks both at eight and seven, sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the six and seventh spots, and then a quartette

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<v Speaker 1>of teams the Packers, Vikings, Saints, and Falcons, all at

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<v Speaker 1>seven and eight, one game behind those six and seven

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<v Speaker 1>spots with two games left to play. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's all kinds of math and various scenarios that could

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<v Speaker 1>unfold over these last two weeks because nothing is a given.

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<v Speaker 1>But for my money, Wes, and I know gambling is

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<v Speaker 1>illegal at Bushwood, but for my money, the Packers against

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings on Sunday night is an elimination game. The loser,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's lottery ticket time at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>If you lose this game and get your ninth loss,

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<v Speaker 1>with everything else that's swirling around in these two wild

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<v Speaker 1>card spots, you are barely hanging on, if at all. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>the winner Sunday Night in Minneapolis between the Packers and

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings will still be very much alive, and the

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<v Speaker 1>loser is pretty much packing its bags.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's what happens when you're when you're sitting

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<v Speaker 2>at seven and eight. And I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people but I'm month ago, we're saying, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>eight wins, and I think I was even among them

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<v Speaker 2>at one point, that might be enough to get you

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<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Seattle Seahawks are the team that the team

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<v Speaker 1>that really changed the outlook on this because the last

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks now against the Philadelphia Eagles and then against

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<v Speaker 1>the Tennessee Titans, the Seahawks put together a length of

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<v Speaker 1>the field drive, scoring a touchdown in the final minute

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<v Speaker 1>when they were losing to take the lead and pull

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<v Speaker 1>out back to back games. And you know, credit to

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle because they've been on a losing streak and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, they are the crunch time team when

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<v Speaker 1>they've got the ball last, and they've gotten two wins

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<v Speaker 1>that both games they were on the verge of losing,

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<v Speaker 1>but they got two wins and they are at eight

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<v Speaker 1>and seven along with the Rams. So that's where, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of finishing eight to nine and maybe sneaking

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<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs has pretty much gone out the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's interesting too because I would venture in

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<v Speaker 2>my own opinion to say the Los Angeles Rams are

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<v Speaker 2>a superior football team to the Seattle Seahawks. But the

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<v Speaker 2>Rams have to face the forty nine ers in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to get through the Giants this Sunday. Seattle

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<v Speaker 2>just has to worry about Pittsburgh and Arizona. So for

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<v Speaker 2>my here's what I've been saying all week long. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I said to you. I know I definitely said

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<v Speaker 2>it to our supervisor, Duke Bober. All the Greenmay Packers

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<v Speaker 2>can do is worry about nine wins. They can get

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<v Speaker 2>to eight this Sunday night, you beat the Vikings, and

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<v Speaker 2>you could talk about that conversation for nine. I would rather,

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<v Speaker 2>to be perfectly honest with you, the Green Bay Packers

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<v Speaker 2>go nine and eight and take care of business and

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<v Speaker 2>miss the playoffs. Then whatever that was at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of last season where the entire table fell to Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>But then they.

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<v Speaker 1>Lose and then you don't. Yeah, you don't cash in

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<v Speaker 1>on all those breaks, everything fail your way to set

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<v Speaker 1>you up for a win to get in and then

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<v Speaker 1>you and then you didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not just about heart heartbreak and ecstasy and

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<v Speaker 2>all this stuff. It's because I look for the Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Packers, if you can get a winning season on this,

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<v Speaker 2>you get to the postseason. Fantastic, that's the goal. That's

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible experience. But this Packers team has the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to be in that same seat that the Detroit Lions

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<v Speaker 2>were in last year. Detroit did not make the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>after they beat green Bay here, But if you go

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<v Speaker 2>listen to that locker room afterwards, you listen to Dan Campbell,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have thought they just won the Super Bowl. Green

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<v Speaker 2>Bay needs to keep building because this is bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>just this season. But that's why I think, more than

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<v Speaker 2>any other year I've covered, I'm just so locked into

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<v Speaker 2>what green Bay situation is and then just once that

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<v Speaker 2>situation's over with, seeing where all the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>chips have fallen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for those who want to for those who want

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get the simplest handle possible on the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers playoff scenario, this is what it boils down to.

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<v Speaker 1>And this doesn't cover all the bases, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>a a very basic way to understand what needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one is the Packers need to win two games

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<v Speaker 1>to get to nine and eight. Then the second thing

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<v Speaker 1>is the help that they need, and what they need

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<v Speaker 1>is the Rams to lose one more, the Seahawks to

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<v Speaker 1>lose one more, the Falcons to lose one more, but

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<v Speaker 1>they only need two of those three things to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So Rams Seahawks, Falcons two of those three with two

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<v Speaker 1>victories to get to nine and eight, and the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>should be grabbing a wild card spot. That's the simplest

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<v Speaker 1>way to just sort of bake it into your mind

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<v Speaker 1>as far as far as going into things here. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course the interesting part is with the Packers and

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings playing on Sunday night, all of this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the scoreboard watching will be, you know, going on

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday afternoon. You know what happens in the Rams game,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in the Seahawks game, what happens in the

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<v Speaker 1>Falcons game. And so we'll just see where things are

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<v Speaker 1>when the Packers kick the ball off. But the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>line is the Packers go. You need to win Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>night in Minneapolis to stay in this hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the part I find it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>funny too, is you got to play the games that

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<v Speaker 2>are in front of you, have to beat the opponents

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<v Speaker 2>that are in front of you. But one reason why

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<v Speaker 2>you can never sit here, and we've had two great

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<v Speaker 2>lessons the last two seasons of why you can't just

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<v Speaker 2>look at a schedule and say, well, these are the

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<v Speaker 2>games of Packers are gonna win, these games are gonna lose,

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<v Speaker 2>right because of how the season's gone. You can make

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<v Speaker 2>an argument that Green Bay has really lost to one

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<v Speaker 2>bad team with that being, in my opinion, the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Giants. They lost to Denver when they only had

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<v Speaker 2>one win. They lost to Vegas when they had Josh

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<v Speaker 2>McDaniels as their head coach. But all these teams have

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<v Speaker 2>been like five hundred type teams.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all been very much like Green Bay going through

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<v Speaker 1>lots of ups and downs where you look at, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>they beat them, and they beat them, but oh geez,

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<v Speaker 1>they lost to them, and they lost to them. All

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<v Speaker 1>these teams, I think, with the exception of the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>all these teams have that same sort of ledger in

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<v Speaker 1>front of them as far as their twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>season goes.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I just think this is so interesting, because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know how Sunday Night's gonna go. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how Week eighteen will go, right, and maybe the

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Packers get enough done to get in the playoffs. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they don't. But Mike, my whole thing and you've had

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<v Speaker 2>to edit my writing here the last couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 2>is that the Packers get in. Man, that's a really

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 2>interesting football team. But they have to earn that opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>and that mission and that path, and we'll preview it

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday. Yeah, that begins with the Minnesota likings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one last thing I want to mention before we go,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will certainly preview in great detail Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>and Minnesota on our next episode, which will actually shoot tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>since now the week is shifting back into normal mode

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<v Speaker 1>after the holiday on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Joe Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got to say, does anybody out there want

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<v Speaker 1>to play the Baltimore Ravens right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Goodness? Seeing the super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 1>Goodness, gracious, you talk about you talk about a team

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<v Speaker 1>that is putting it together and getting on a roll

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<v Speaker 1>at the right time, and they've still got one heck

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<v Speaker 1>of a tough matchup this week. They now they after

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>these games, they big games they've had against Jacksonville and

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<v Speaker 1>against and against the forty nine ers, these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>games over teams that look like they're certainly headed to

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. But but then the Baltimore Ravens beat them convincingly.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they have to face the Miami Dolphins, who are

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<v Speaker 1>coming off of a big win of their own at

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<v Speaker 1>home against the Dallas Cowboys last week. And but boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I just you know, Baltimore Ravens are nine to one

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<v Speaker 1>in their last ten games. Their only loss in that

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<v Speaker 1>stretch is a two point loss to the Cleveland Browns,

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<v Speaker 1>a team that is certainly no slouch out there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just I couldn't be more impressed because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people thought, when you know, Mark Andrews goes

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<v Speaker 1>down with terrible injury, a lot of people, oh, what's

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<v Speaker 1>that going to do to, you know, to the Ravens

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 1>offense and all this, Well it had, you know, no

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<v Speaker 1>offense to Mark Andrews. It hasn't affected them a whole

0:25:58.160 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>heck of a lot. And that's a credit to jarn

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>hark Ball, credit to the rest of those guys. The

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Ravens right now are looking like the team to

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<v Speaker 1>beat in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>And credit to Lamar Jackson because they took away his

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<v Speaker 2>top receiving target for years and he adapted much better

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<v Speaker 2>this year without Andrews than some of these previous years

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<v Speaker 2>when Andrews has been unavailable and obviously likely factors into

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 2>that they've had to make the adjustments in the backfield,

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<v Speaker 2>but they still have Gus Edwards. I mean, the Baltimore

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens are an incredibly fun team to watch. And I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, Mike, That's why originally I was

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<v Speaker 2>wondering whether or not the Sunday Night game would actually

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<v Speaker 2>get played with the Packers and Vikings or if they

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<v Speaker 2>get flexed out of it just because of Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 1>In Miami Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then when you talk about this is the

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful thing about the National Football League, the way you

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 2>build football teams. Baltimore very home grown, very gritty. Their defense,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Patrick Queen talked about it after the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they don't people don't want to play our

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<v Speaker 2>brand of football. And then you have the Miami Dolphins,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a lot of guys that have been brought

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<v Speaker 2>in with draft picks from other places, a lot of

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 2>guys that have a lot of speed, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have those two objects really colliding here. There's been so

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<v Speaker 2>many of these AFC matchups where I was like, boy,

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>this could be a potential you know, AFC.

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<v Speaker 1>Championship previous Yeah, playoff preview type of game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but here we are again. This definitely feels like

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<v Speaker 2>it could have that type of ibe because I think

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<v Speaker 2>when you're looking in terms of the most consistent teams

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<v Speaker 2>this season, not just in that conference, the Dolphins and

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<v Speaker 2>the Ravens certainly are at the top of that list.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. Well. We will look ahead in

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<v Speaker 1>more detail to the rest of the Week seventeen schedule

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, as well as obviously the Packers and

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the Vikings from US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>it for you on our next show, but for now,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the

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<v Speaker 1>team on Packers dot com. For Wes, I'm Mike. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for tuning in everybody. We will see you next time.