1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: What's up everybody before you get to your show. It's 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: DJ and Bucky here from Move the Sticks and tell 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: you what's coming up. On our latest Move the Sticks episode, 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about which drios you need to pay 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: attention to for each position and which ones are overrated. 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: We also we're talking about the big time players to 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: watch at the combine. Yeah, everything you need to know 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: about the scouting combine you can find on the latest 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Move the Stix episode YouTube, NFL dot com, Slash podcast 10 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: as well as iTunes. What is going on? It is 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: another edition of the NFL Fantasy Live podcast. I Am 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: not James Co. I am Marcus Grant alongside Adam Rank 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: and the Hello Adam Rank, the Maverick. I do pretty 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: well that I don't. I don't speak until I'm spoken to. 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a good thing. I felt, and 16 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: I felt that you got right to me. James Co 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: will let it go. Yes, he likes to spread things 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: out a little. Also that you heard the voice of 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: the whiz kid from Wisconsin, Alex Gelhar there behind the glass. Course. No, 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: James Co, he is dealing with a stomach bug. Those 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: were the words he texted. Yeah, he said he'd been 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: out of commission for like a week and he hadn't 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: gotten any better. So he is laid up, probably snuggling 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: with baby Coo, though hopefully not getting her sick. But 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, tell you gotta you gotta quarantine yourself like that. 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: It's kind of been a rough year for James co 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: car accident. You go back to the late last year, 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: he had the shoulder issue. Uh, he had a rotator 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: cuff injury, then a car accident, now the stomach bugs. 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: So we're all pulling for you, James, but you were 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: starting to get the literally label there's injury prone. If 32 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: there's one thing that that renders no follow up questions, 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: it's stomach. I'm sick, Like, oh, what's wrong? Like everybody 34 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: wants to diagnose it. You're like, hey, stomach. But it 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: was like, okay, that's good, good good. So I got 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: pointed to do. Today we will finish up our post 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: mortems of the divisions with the NFC South. But of course, 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: the big news from the past week in the football 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: world was the scouting combine in Indianapolis, So we're gonna 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: talk plenty of that. In fact, we have our first guest, Yes, 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna intro him here quick before we bring him in. 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: UH this offseason, there's a lot of great people in 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: the fantasy community we wanted to try and bring on 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: the show and discuss things with us, And with the 45 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: combine wrapping up, we're bringing in John Moore. He's at 46 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: the CFX on Twitter. He does a lot of great 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: work for Roative Is, he's on the road of his 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: radio podcast, and he does college football write ups for 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: Pope Football Focus Fantasy as well. So he is the 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: person to talk to when it comes to UH, the 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: Combine and prospects and everything. So John, Welcome to the 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: Fantasy Live podcast. Yes, thank you guys for having me. 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad to be with you and absolutely thrilled to 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: discuss the Combine. It was certainly an exciting event and 55 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: one that we can jump into for sure. So did 56 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: I get everything right there in the introduction? Anything else 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: you want to you want to tell us about yourself 58 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: or your your background and getting into this crazy world 59 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: of writing about football. No, I mean you're pretty snailed it. 60 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: I was the guy that I just always loved football, 61 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: always tried to find ways to exercise that passion. I 62 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: studied finance in college, but because the financial crisis hit 63 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: right as I was graduating, kind of went a different path. 64 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: But football was sort of my way if you apply 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: my sort of numeric worldview to something that I felt 66 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: passionately about since I was a kid. And here we 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: are a few years later, and I'm really glad to 68 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: be on the show with you guys. Awesome. Well, I'll 69 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: get that, I'll get I'll started off here so before 70 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: we dive into individual prospects and stuff and guys that 71 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: we saw perform well and didn't perform so well. Everybody 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: tends to have one of their guys in the in 73 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: the draft class. You know, somebody that they might like 74 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: to pound the table more for than other people, or 75 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: who they like a little better than others. Maybe the 76 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: general consensus is, so, do you have a guy this draft? 77 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: And if so, who is he? You know, I have 78 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: a guy that I love this draft, but he laid 79 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: a bit of an egg at the combine. But I'm 80 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna stick with them. And that guy is Tyler Boyd. 81 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: Out of hit. When you look at Boyd, you've got 82 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: a guy who for three season really carried that passing offense. 83 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: I know this last year, his numbers were a little 84 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: bit down overall, but if you go back to two 85 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen and compare him neck and neck with 86 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: a Marity Cooper in terms of their age, in terms 87 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: of size, yards per target, production, market share, production, basically 88 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: across the board, Tyler Boyd's two thousand board, Keen was 89 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: almost equal to a Maria Cooper's by many of the 90 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: metrics that I rely on. And so even though he 91 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: ended up being a little bit of an underwhelming athlete 92 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: at the combine, he's still a guy that I think 93 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: because of his diverse production in college special teams, running, receiving, 94 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: even through passes in college, which I think is an 95 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: interesting indicator of how much the coaching staff trusted him, 96 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: He's a guy that I really think could succeed at 97 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: the next level as probably a high end kind of 98 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: slot receiver, maybe like a Keenan Allen type. And if 99 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: you remember Keenan Allen had a lot of athletic question 100 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: marks coming out. We didn't get the best read on him, 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: but obviously made a pretty big impact right away in 102 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: San Diego. Yeah, he was dealing with some injuries too. 103 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: I think he came through the process which didn't help 104 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: his stock either. So a guy we've had lots of 105 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: discussions on here, and it seems that the draft community 106 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: is a little divided on is not divided on a 107 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: bad way. But Kenneth Dixon. Some people think he's a 108 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: complete back. Some people think he's a change of place, 109 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, change of pace guy. Like I think Josh 110 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: Norris has him in his top thirty two overall. Bucky 111 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: Brooks thinks he's like a fourth or fifth round pick. 112 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: He had a decent had a pretty good combine. I 113 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: think it kind of confirmed what we all saw on tape, 114 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: like he's got the good short area quickness, not the 115 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: greatest long speed. What's your take on Kenneth Dixon? Do 116 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: you think he can be a complete back in the NFL? Yeah, 117 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: I absolutely do. And the things that I really like 118 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: about Kenneth Dixon is first that he's got the size 119 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: to handle the workload and that he proved that he 120 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: can handle the workload during his career Louisian Attacks. He 121 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: checked into combine right about five pence pounds, which is 122 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: perfectly fine for me. As far as athleticism, really was 123 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: above average and just about everything except his speed, which 124 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: he was about average, and so for for that, you know, 125 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: I like guys, particularly running backs that page to their agility, 126 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: especially check the boxes there. And then as far as 127 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: his receiving ability, that's where he really shined. One of 128 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: the best receiving running backs in this class. And so 129 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: when you look at a guy that he has the 130 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: experience being involved in the passing game, not only as 131 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: a receiver but also as a protector, I think he's 132 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: demonstrated a lot of the abilities that, uh that you 133 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: want to see out of a three down back in 134 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. And I think in some ways guys like 135 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: him can almost be like boringly awesome in the sense 136 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: that they just they do everything at a at a 137 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: high level. Maybe not anything in particular that really allows you, 138 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: but just gets a job done everywhere. I mean, you 139 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: talk about there are guys that think that have the 140 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: ability to be three down backs. Have we have we 141 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: gotten past that? Though? I mean, since teams generally use 142 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: some sort of a rotation, I mean, is there such 143 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: a thing unless you're in Adrian Peterson type where you 144 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: will have the opportunity in the league to be a 145 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: three down back anymore? I mean, I think if you're 146 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: asking is there a guy in this class but I 147 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: think could be a freedom back. I think Ezekiel Elliott 148 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: certainly uh fits that mold. He's a guy that I 149 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: think Eric Galco said it really well. He's someone that 150 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: can run, run, block, receive, and pass block. And that's 151 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: a guy along with his production, along with his age 152 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: size speed, I think Ezekiel Elliott can be that. And 153 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: that's the thing I think with with each class, there 154 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: really are only maybe one or two guys that can 155 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: be that. And I think that I think that Ken 156 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: Dixon along with Ezekiel Elliott can can really both do that. 157 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: What round are we looking at Dixon going in? Because 158 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of hoping that he falls to one 159 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: of those better teams because I always see it always 160 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: comes out to be like a situational type thing, like 161 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: good enough running back, like if he went and not 162 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: necessarily in the first round, but he want to like Cleveland. 163 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: I just think it would be I'm using that as 164 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: an example. But where do you see him? I guess 165 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: something is a long winded way I'm saying Where's Oh, 166 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think so many variables is stuff to 167 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: to nail down the specific spot forum team wise, but 168 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: I think range wise, I would look for him to 169 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: come off the board probably in the back half of 170 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: round two, maybe into the early round three part um. 171 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: In recent years, that's where we've seen a good number 172 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: of backs go. Yeah, like the Geo Bernard Eddie Lacey, 173 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: kinda kind of run that we've seen in the last 174 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: couple of years. You're feeling exactly, And so I think 175 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: that the bottom half around que because for me, he's 176 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: he's one of the best by running backs in this class. 177 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: And so usually by about the sixty four or sixty 178 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: pick something like that, Uh, the fourth or fifth back 179 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: will be off the board. All right. Speaking of the 180 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: top five backs in the class heading into the combine, 181 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: one guy that I had seen climbing up a lot 182 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: of draft boards was Alex Collins out of Arkansas and 183 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: then he uh did not have the greatest athletics showing 184 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: at the combine. So did this change your opinion of him? 185 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: I don't know how. I actually don't know how high 186 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: you were on him beforehand. And what do you think 187 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: it's done to his his draft and fantasy value heading 188 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: into the next year. Yeah, it's pretty amazing because Collins 189 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: was of those guys that I think as proxy for 190 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: combine athleticism, I like to go back and look at 191 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: what they did coming out of high school with all 192 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: the different like Nike camps that these guys will go to, 193 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: and he was something that I was actually expecting to 194 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: have plus athleticism, and so when he came in pretty 195 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,479 Speaker 1: much below average and almost everything it was was pretty surprising. 196 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: And he's a guy that I think when you look 197 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: at him, he's I think three seasons all three seasons 198 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: that Arkansas was over at thousand yards from scrimmage, which 199 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: I really like. He's got the size in the two 200 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty pound range that I really like to see. 201 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: But man, that that athleticism was a pretty big red flag, 202 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: and I think when you look at it, I mean 203 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: I was looking for guys who basically were as productive 204 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: as Alex Collins was, but as unathletic as he proved 205 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: to be. And a couple of names college names that 206 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: came up that I thought were interesting were steps and 207 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: Taylor from Stanford and Antonio Andrews out of Western Kentucky. 208 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: And see those those guys both stream a little bit 209 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: of system producers, if you will. People talk a lot 210 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: about system quarterbacks or system wide receivers, but I think 211 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: there is such a thing as a system running back. 212 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: And I know that Bilma, with the history of Wisconsin 213 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: and now down to Arkansas, I think there's a little 214 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: bit of a chance that he falls into that mold. 215 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: I think at Collins is certainly an NFL worthy running 216 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: back and you know, one of definitely the best ten 217 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: running backs in this class. But it just definitely makes 218 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: you scratch your head when when somebody has that big 219 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: a disparity in production, especially in the SEC, and then 220 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: proves to be that on athletic. That's the one thing too, 221 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: is you talk about Bilma and everybody always makes jokes 222 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: about the Wisconsin running backs, but you gotta remember it's 223 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: a coaching thing. It's not necessarily the program or anything 224 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: like that. It's a coaching thing. And honestly, I mean, 225 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't that much of a surprise to me because 226 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: I know that he had some success. But when he's 227 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: playing in the SEC, you see for Net and you 228 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: see Derrick Henry, I think it's very easy to look 229 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: at this guy and be like, yeah, he's just not 230 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: as good as them, like even just im, not even 231 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: the Combine members notwithstanding, I mean I did I just 232 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: feel like watching him, I just didn't like he was 233 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: on that level of the other two guys. Yeah, and 234 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: I think in fairness to Collins though, I mean, those 235 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: those two guys are I don't want to say generational talents, 236 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: but pretties and so uh. You know, there's been this 237 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: run of backs coming out of the SEC. If you 238 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: look back over the last maybe like I don't know, 239 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: five years or so, the Zach Stacy's and the even 240 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: Riddley's and these guys that are productive and they kind 241 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: of come out a little bit lost in the fray, 242 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: if you will. They get trapped behind these other SEC 243 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: runners who get more attention, and they can still have 244 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: good peaks in the NFL, but I don't necessarily know 245 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: if if they are, like you know, long term type 246 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: assets that you get excited about, certainly a name to 247 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: know though. Moving on, and we can do this, we 248 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: can do this. We can speak freely here about Daniel 249 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: Lasco because noted cal Honk James Co is not with 250 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: us today. But Lasgo I had a lot of big numbers, 251 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: but that's a lot, a lot of good numbers at 252 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: the combine. Um, I mean, where do you see him? 253 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: Does this do for him after the weekend Indianapolis. You know, 254 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit earlier about Tyler Boyd and 255 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: how you really need to go back to two thousand 256 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: and fourteen, I think to see him at his best. 257 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: And I think for Daniel Lasco it's a similar situation. 258 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: Two thousand and fourteen, he's absolutely spectacular over four scrimmage yards, 259 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: four team touchdowns, and then this year he came out, 260 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: got off to a great start and then had a 261 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: hip injury, uh, was out, you know, then had an 262 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: ankle energy injury and then was out. And I think 263 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: for for him, um, he's probably a little bit undervalued 264 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: on the national radar right now. Obviously, this performance was 265 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: just kind of mind blowing. I mean, one of the 266 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: most sort of straight line, explosive guys who've been through 267 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: the combine at the running back position in recent years. 268 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: The tricky part with him, though, is that he's really 269 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: not agile whatsoever, and I don't know if it's sort 270 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: of juicing himself up to do well in these explosive things, 271 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: explosive drills. He uh, he sacrificed some of that, but 272 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: that's that's actually something that I must care a little 273 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: bit more about than the explosiveness is the agility, and 274 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: for alasco Um that that's definitely a red flag. But 275 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: absolutely great receiver was used as such a cow and 276 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you think he's a guy who's doctor is 277 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: definitely on the rise. I'm not sure how high I 278 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: want to move him just yet. I want to see 279 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: how he does that as pro day, but certainly a 280 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: guy to track moving forward, particularly for people who are 281 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: more metrically inclined in terms of athleticism and whatnot. Yeah, 282 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: his his three cone was the one that was a 283 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: little disappointing after seeing him light up the rest of 284 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: the vertical with forty one and a half inches and 285 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: eleven ft three inch broad drump is pretty crazy. So 286 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna shift here's a little bit too wide receivers 287 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: now or did you have something else rancor Yeah. I 288 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: was just gonna add a comment about him and just 289 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: say he's gonna be one of those guys who's gonna 290 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: end up frustrating you because they'll be I guarantee you 291 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna there's gonna be a preseason game where he 292 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: breaks a huge run and everybody's gonna go crazy for him. 293 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: But because he he just doesn't. I don't know. I'm 294 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: just watching him like he's got to be in a 295 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: straight line and go he because he's not gonna hit 296 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: the hole and he's not gonna make an adjustment. So 297 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I sorry, I'm just interjected. No, that's what 298 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to take up all John's time. 299 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,599 Speaker 1: I know we have plenty of time to bag on 300 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: these guys. Uh. So, as I was saying, we'll transition 301 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: to UH wide receivers a little bit. Digging through your 302 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: Twitter timeline, we uncovered that you had Coleman and Dotson. Uh, 303 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: Corey Coleman and Josh Dotson were your top two favorites. 304 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: Do you still feel that way after the quand tread 305 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: Will put up a pretty solid combine even though he 306 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: didn't run the forty yard dash. Yeah. For me, I 307 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: think the thing was with Coleman and Dockson is that 308 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: in my eyes, there's somewhat more realized as as prospects. Um, 309 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: I think tread Will you have a lot of things 310 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: with him that people like to see. He's six to one, 311 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: that's a big check mark. He's young, which matters a 312 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: lot in in my worldview, just gonna be twenty one 313 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: years old as rookie, which is the same as Marty 314 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: Cooper last year. Um, But as far as what he's 315 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: actually done on the field, I think there's still a 316 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: lot to be, a lot to be desired, and I 317 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: think that the promises there. But really, what I did 318 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: because I noticed that they checked in at about the 319 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: same size at the combine, almost exactly the same size 320 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: with Quan Treadwell Dante Moncree, go back a couple of 321 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: years across the board, and virtually every metric that I 322 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: could devise, the Kwan Treadwell and Dante Moncrief were the 323 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: same on field in terms of efficiency, in ms of 324 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: the amount of the passing offense that they shouldered athletically, 325 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: Treadwell is much less than what Moncrief was. And I 326 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: just look at it and I think, you know, people 327 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: are talking about Treadwell going in the top fifteen overall 328 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: and Dante Moncrief went overall. Now, does the truth probably 329 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: lie somewhere in the middle. I think so. I mean, 330 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: I think la Quan Treadwell is a very good prospect. 331 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: I think he should be taken in the first round, 332 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: but I would be much more comfortable with him probably 333 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: in the thirty overall range than the top ten or 334 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: top fifteen like he's talking about going, because I think 335 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: that the projectability is there, But I think he is 336 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: far from the sure thing that he's made out to 337 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: be by many of the different things that I read. Yeah, 338 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: as silly as it is, it could come down a 339 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: lot to what he runs in his forty at his 340 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: pro day. But I've seen him mocked, you know, with 341 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: our guys at NFL media and other people anywhere, from 342 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: going fourth overall to the Cowboys to you know, the 343 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings at twenty two or wherever they pick, I 344 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: forget off the top of my head, mm hmm uh. 345 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: And then what else? What's your what else is your 346 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: beat on Coleman and Dots And why are those your 347 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: favorite guys in the class? Yeah? I mean, I think 348 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: for Corey Coleman, it just comes down to him being 349 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: a really spectacular athlete. Um within the context of the combine, 350 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: that's the most pressing thing. I know that he didn't run, 351 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: but considering his size, he waited at one and a 352 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: half inch vertical a hundred and twenty nine inch broad 353 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: jump seventeen on the bench. I mean, that's really good 354 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: on the bench, UM, And to me, that kind of 355 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: signifies you. And I know people talk about it, well 356 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: when you look at these numbers, and you know, what 357 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: does it really mean when I see something like that, 358 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: A hundred pound guys put up seventeen on the bench. 359 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: He's in the weight room, he's doing the work. He's 360 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: dedicated to his craft. He's dedicated to getting better UM. 361 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: And maybe that's a lot to extrapolate from one number, 362 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: but that matters. And then you look at what he 363 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: did on field. I mean, he think he caught twenty 364 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: touchdowns in his first eight games this season. On a 365 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: per target basis, he was one of the most heavily 366 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: targeted receivers in college football last year and managed to 367 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: pull eleven point six yards every time the ball was 368 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: thrown in his direction, which is a remarkable number. He's 369 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: got sort of the age production profile that I really like. 370 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: And then I know that Baylor kind of gets knocked 371 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: around a little bit for the kind of offense they run, 372 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: but in recent years they've turned out guys who have 373 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: been quality NFL receivers. Josh Gordon, Kendall Wright, Terrence Williams. 374 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: And so I think that something that Art Riles is 375 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: doing is working for putting these guys into the league. 376 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: And I think that Coleman has the potential to be 377 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: uh as good as any of those guys have been. 378 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: And we saw that both uh that you know, Kendall 379 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: Wright went in the first round and Josh Gordon was 380 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: used a second round supplemental pick to acquire him. So 381 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: I think that Coleman, Uh, Coleman is really the guy 382 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: that I think might end up being my number one 383 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: receiver in this class. Well, you're looking at another wide 384 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: receiver who is kind of moving up boards is Leonte 385 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: Carew with aside from having just a fantastic name, and 386 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: it's fun to say, I mean, how do you feel 387 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: about Carew right now? Yeah? I really like Carew. He 388 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: there's a there's a joke which the guys that wrote 389 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: of is that there's a certain type of player that 390 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: is a rote of his reach and it's someone who 391 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: just checks all the metric boxes. But maybe you know, 392 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: when we watch him on film, people don't like him 393 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: as much. And Crew is the guy this year. Um, 394 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: he just has been absolutely brilliant over the last two years. Um. 395 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: I want to say something the neighborhood of like twelve 396 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: point six yards per target over the last two seasons, 397 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: which is the best of anyone in this class. He's 398 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: shoulder to high percent of his team's passing offense, which 399 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: I really like. He's gotten the touchdown prowess that I 400 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: love to see. I think for his career he has 401 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: five three touchdown games, which is just stupid. Um. And 402 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: even though he maybe doesn't quite have the like prototypical 403 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: bill that you like to see, checking in right at 404 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: six and two eleven pounds, is is certainly fine with me. 405 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: Explosive guy, and he's someone that I think. I know 406 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: there's some off the field issues with him, but I 407 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: think from the things that I like to pay attention to, 408 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: drafting him somewhere in the thirty to forty overall range 409 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: would be warranted. Not saying that he will end up 410 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: going there, but I think that would be, uh, you know, 411 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: a worthy pick in that area. Yeah, I gotta ask, 412 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: because a lot was made this weekend of the wide receivers, 413 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: especially there forty times and you know, Mike Mayock commented 414 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: on it. Chris Harris jumped in on Twitter to talk about, uh, 415 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: you know, kind of the disappointing forty times, and we 416 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: I think we always get to this point in the 417 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: year where, especially after the combine, people start to talk 418 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: about whether or not, you know, some of these numbers, 419 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: the forty and what have you, are are overrated. It 420 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: always seems like, you know, when it's your guy and 421 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: he runs a good forty, then then it means something. 422 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: If it's your guy and he runs a bad forty, 423 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: then it's overrated. But looking at this, this wide receiver 424 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: class as a whole, I mean, are these numbers, are 425 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: they worrisome? Are they overrated? I mean, is there is 426 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: there something to take into this? You know what I 427 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: actually I think happens sometimes and I know this is 428 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: probably a little bit crazy. Like last year, for example, 429 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: a lot of the running back forty times were really slow. 430 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: Uh this year, all the wide receiver ones seemed to 431 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: be really slow. I wonder if there's not almost something 432 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: that happens that somehow the timing mechanism or the however 433 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: it's calibrated for a given day, um doesn't just lead 434 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: to peculiar results. Sometimes conspiracy theory like it yeah, and 435 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: I know that's a little bit silly. I know then 436 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: that's all does a great job with everything, but that's okay, 437 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't immediately great, but it just it 438 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: just struck me as odd because a lot of these 439 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: guys are I mean, I think this was like the 440 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: slowest wide receiver class and you know, five or six 441 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: years something like that. It just struck me as odd 442 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: because when you watch a lot of these guys, that 443 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like they are below average athletes or you know, 444 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: even just average athletes. So I don't know what was 445 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: going on there. Honestly, one thing that I would really 446 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: like to pay attention to, and this is, uh, this 447 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: is kind of a check mark in the Corey Coleman 448 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: box and even Josh Stockson as well. Did I just 449 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: look at the the jumping metrics, um because I think 450 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: even that, like pro days, sometimes the times are a 451 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: little bit finicky, So I just look at how explosive 452 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: are they when they're jumping, because of those things are 453 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: definitely correlated and so um yeah, I mean I think 454 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: with the with the forties, it was a little bit 455 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: of a disappointment and a lot of these guys in fairness, 456 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: weren't really that great of jumpers either, who had the 457 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: blow blow average times like a like a Tyler Boyd 458 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: or like a Roshard Higgins. And so some of that 459 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: kind of lines up. But when you look at guys 460 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: like Dawson Coleman, they really they really are that explosive 461 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: sterling Shephard, and so it's easier to get on board 462 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: with them. Awesome. Well, I think that anybody else have 463 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: any other questions for John? That was a lot of 464 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: great information there that you uh, you you knowledge you 465 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: dropped on us and our listeners. So and Madam Marcus, 466 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: anybody else wanted any other questions in any other prospects? 467 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: What a what about? What about Mike Thomas of Ohio State? 468 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: Because I was gonna say which one I I know? 469 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: But this is my thing is like I don't watch 470 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot of the combine because excuse me, and we 471 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: talked about it last week, like you, all it is 472 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: is it's it's validating your opinion you already have in 473 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: some guy, Like if he has a great combine, you like, 474 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: see let's see what I told you. If he does poorly, 475 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: you say, you know, what doesn't matter because what matters 476 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: what happens on the field. Mike Thomas is somebody who 477 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: I look at and I watched enough Ohio State games 478 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: that to me, he just strikes me is somebody who's 479 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: gonna go out there and make an impact in the NFL. 480 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: What was your read from him coming off the combine, Yeah, 481 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: I think for a guy who's probably one of the 482 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: bigger receivers in this class, uh he ended up being 483 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: tremendously agile, which is something that I like to see 484 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: out of those bigger guys. I think his jumps were 485 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: good enough. He's pretty strong considering how how long of 486 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: arms he has. Uh. So for me, I mean I 487 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: like Mike Thomas. I like what he did on the field. 488 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: He was one of the more consistent touchdown producers in 489 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: the country this year. I think if you look at 490 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: him within the context of Urban Meyer receivers, he's one 491 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: of the more dominant of those guys that have come out, 492 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: and so I think he's certainly sort of a long 493 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: term NFL receiver who have a solid career. For me, 494 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: the one thing that that kind of comes up a 495 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: little bit is just that he he's a little bit 496 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: on the older side as far as prospect age. That's 497 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: something that I pay attention to. Other people, you know, 498 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: don't give as much tredence, but um, he's certainly a 499 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: guy who I think is is worthy of going in 500 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: the top two rounds of the draft, especially because this 501 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: year it's there's a lot of sort of small receivers 502 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: or at least longer and leaner kind of guys. And 503 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: and Thomas is pretty well built. And how's the Ohio 504 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: state pedigree and really has done nothing but produced over 505 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: over the last year. Well, John, appreciate the time give us. 506 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: Let everybody know where they can find you out there 507 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: on the interwebs. Yeah, the best place to interact with 508 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: me is on Twitter at the c f X and 509 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: I'll be glad to uh to tay with you there. 510 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: Awesome and read his stuff on Rood of his check 511 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: out the Road of his radio podcast. John is everywhere 512 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of great information on these 513 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: prospects and more so John, thanks again and we'll talk 514 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: to you soon. Man. Thank you, right, Thanks a lot 515 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: to John Moore for his time. As you mentioned. As 516 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: he mentioned, you can hear him on Road of his 517 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: radio and find him on Twitter, at the c f 518 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: X and hopefully, as Alex mentioned earlier, we planned to 519 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: get on a lot more folks from the fantasy community 520 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: to come and chat with us, even maybe about things 521 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: that aren't necessarily straight up fantasy football. Absolutely, there's already 522 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: one person and on the docket who had an interesting story. Uh, 523 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: Liz Losa are a good friend from AH yes your 524 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 1: weight you're good? Are our pal? Not not you the 525 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: collective YouTube? I don't want to. All we know is 526 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: she apparently auditioned for a role in one of our 527 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: favorite bad movies, and she's going to tell us about it, 528 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: and we'll talk fantasy and stuff as well. So Liz 529 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: also has the benefit of being lost Los Angelino like us, 530 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: so we can get her in studio to hear all 531 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: the wonderful happenings of that audition process. Well, and maybe 532 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: it's an oral history of almost being in the room. Yes, 533 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: so there we go. But yeah, thanks again to John 534 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: for hopping on the podcast. I thought that was a 535 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: lot of really good information. Obviously a sharp guy when 536 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: it comes to watching prospects and stuff, and uh, yeah 537 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: that was Those are some good takeaways from the combine. 538 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: But should we dive into the NFC let's let's take 539 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: a look at the NFC South. This is our final 540 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: post mortem from as we can now after this dive 541 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: fully into what will happen in sixteen. But let's start 542 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: with the top of the division. The team that won. 543 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: You just can't see the NFC pennant. That's baseball, but 544 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: the NFC crown. The NFC title holders, the Carolina Panthers. 545 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: Obviously a fantastic season fifteen and one in the regular season, 546 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: a tough loss in the Super Bowl, of course, but 547 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: the big story coming into the season for them was 548 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin goes down. They don't apparently have any wide receivers. 549 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: Everybody wonders what's going to happen. A lot of us, 550 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: myself included, took Cam Newton down our fantasy draft boards 551 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: because we just didn't know who you're gonna throw the 552 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: football too. Obviously, Cam had a phenomenal season. But now 553 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin coming back from injury, and you know, Alex, 554 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: do you think he is a wide receiver to next year? 555 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: What do you what do you have him? I would 556 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: be happy to slide him into that role. I think 557 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: he's still a pretty young guy. And we saw what 558 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: he was able to do with Cam in their first 559 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: year together. Um Calvin. Benjamin is seemed to be growing 560 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: a little bit tough the offseason, so and there's going 561 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 1: to be there's going to be volume for him in 562 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: this passing attack. I mean, Ted gin had his ten 563 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: touchdowns last year magically, but we didn't know that's not 564 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: gonna happen again. And Benjamin is gonna fit that type 565 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: of chain mover and he's the you know, he's the 566 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: other big target that Cam needs in addition to Greg 567 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: Olsen to you know, move that offense down the field. 568 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: So I would feel very comfortable taking Benjamin in the 569 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: in the wide receiver two range. He strikes me as 570 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: one of those guys at the narrative around June and 571 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: July will be like, hey, this guy is gonna be 572 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: undervalued because people are forgetting that he's coming off an injury. 573 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: And then everybody will have remembered it and by August 574 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: he'll be right back up into the mix again. And 575 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: he I really I I really expect a lot out 576 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: of him this coming season. I think that the Carolina 577 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: Panthers are gonna take a little bit of a step forward, 578 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: which is kind of hard to say, because they were 579 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: fifteen and one, and outside of a poor performance in 580 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, there's really gonna be hard to kind 581 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: of top what they did. But one of the things 582 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: I really liked, uh hearing about over the combine week 583 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 1: was that Ron Rivera was giving his team an extra 584 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: month off, actually five weeks, because they said, look, we 585 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: had an extra month in five weeks of playoff practice, 586 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: so I really don't need my guys back out there. 587 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: And so you look at a lot of these teams 588 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: that that have those like long playoff runs and then 589 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: fall off the next season, it's because they have all 590 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: that extra practice time, they don't really have an opportunity 591 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: to go up and get well and get healed and 592 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: everything like that. I don't think that's gonna be a 593 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: problem for Carolina. I think the fact that Rivera is 594 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: looking out for his team in such a way makes 595 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: his players want to play hard for him and really 596 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: want to show up and do it do a great job. 597 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: So I expect Carolina to be back into the makes 598 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: and I expect this offense to be a little bit better, 599 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, Cam Newton is still going to 600 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: grow as a quarterback. He's still got a chip on 601 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: his shoulder, which is good. So I think that Benjamin 602 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: is gonna benefit from all that. Yeah, I mean, looking 603 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: back to Kelvin Benjamin in his rookie season was wide 604 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: receiver seventeen at the end of the year, which I mean, 605 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: at least for me, that exceeded my expectations of him 606 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: in his first year. Thousand yards and nine touchdowns. Obviously 607 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: a huge red zone target. I think that especially is 608 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: where he will continue to ex cell. I mean, I 609 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: know they you know, they they They're hoping to kind 610 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: of get some more guys in the mix. Devin Funches, 611 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: I think, is a guy they kind of want to 612 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: work in there. But I just I see Kelvin Benjamin 613 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: jumping back in and being that big red zone target 614 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: for Cam Newton. Uh. And I think that one obviously 615 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: Benjamin producers. I think it also helps Greg Olsen because 616 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: that's less attention that he gets in the center of 617 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: the field. And if Devin Funches can take a step forward, suddenly, 618 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: that's three really good pass targets that offense, Yeah, for sure. 619 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's only gonna help Cam because he 620 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: he he said he progressed last year and he played phenomenally. 621 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean he had a seven point one touchdown percentage, 622 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: which is was the highest in the league. Um, so 623 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: it'll be good to see him get another guy that 624 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: can actually, you know, catch those passes in the red 625 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: zone and uh and convert those things into scores. Uh. 626 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart, who had I think one of his better seasons, 627 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: UM did get hurt late in the season. I know 628 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: that that was always the fear for him that you know, 629 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to draft, A lot of people are 630 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: always worried about his durability. But overall was a good 631 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: year in in a land where running back depth is 632 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: non existent. I mean, why wouldn't you take a chance 633 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: on him as as an RB two next year? I 634 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: absolutely would. I was the one that was pounding the 635 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: table for Jays two all through the off season in 636 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: this very room much you know to you know your delight, 637 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: because you guys could all make fun of me for it. 638 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: But and while he started off slowly, there was a 639 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: period um in the middle of the season. I think 640 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: it was after their by, Yes, it was after their 641 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: by so he um, he had that big game in 642 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: Seattle where like that, I think they hadn't led a 643 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: rushing touchdown allowed in so many games, and he scored two. 644 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: So from week six to week fourteen he averaged. Hold on, 645 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: let me just finished doing my math here, uh, and 646 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: I accidentally started a video while I'm falling apart right now. 647 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: But he averaged, he scored. He had several double digit game, 648 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: double digits fantasy games in a row one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. 649 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: Out of eight weeks he had twelve and more Fantasy points. 650 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: So he was like, he was so consistent. He was 651 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 1: in that like mark ingram Mold where he was going 652 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: to get you pints every week. We know this offense 653 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: needs him to be at its full strength, like it 654 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: operated the best when Jonathan Stewart and Cam Newton were 655 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: both running the ball effectively. So I mean, this injury 656 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: risk is there. He's another year older, but as the 657 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: lead back in one of the NFL's top offenses, I 658 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: don't know how you pass it up as an RB two. 659 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: I like, you know That's the one thing too, is uh, 660 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: it really depends on what's gonna happen in the draft, 661 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: because I think what we saw out of Copy was 662 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: not exceptional. Although I really liked him coming out of Car. 663 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: I liked him at Auburn, and I thought he was 664 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: gonna come out and have a little bit more of 665 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: a role. But if they kind of stand pat and 666 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: really don't address the running back position, it shows me 667 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: that they're they're confident. Plus, you know, a lot of 668 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: his injury too, was the fact that or the reason 669 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: that he missed so many games was the fact that 670 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: they were so far ahead in that division that they 671 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: didn't didn't really they can rush him out there, like, yeah, 672 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do, Like, let's hold them, let's 673 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: try to keep them fresh for the playoffs, which was 674 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: kind of the smart thing to do. So so I'm 675 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: down with I think, I think what you're right. You're right. 676 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: Hopefully what they do get in the draft is a 677 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: third down back who's a little who's quick and shifting 678 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more of an a depth pass catcher, 679 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: because that would keep Jonathan Stewart fresh to do all 680 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: his early down work and you know, stuff along the 681 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: goal line. And I was finally able to finish my calculations. 682 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: It was thirteen point six fantasy points per game during 683 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: that stretch. Once he started getting enough carries. There you go, Uh, 684 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: moving along to the Atlanta Falcons. I just it's just 685 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: I can't get excited about the Falcons offense. I mean, 686 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: I know, obviously DeVante Freeman had a fantastic year. I 687 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: know they were high hopes for Tevin Coleman. Uh. You know, 688 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: Julio Jones obviously is outstanding. I just maybe it's because 689 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: I look at Matt Ryan and it just brings the 690 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: whole thing down for me. You know, am I weird 691 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: like that? Like there's so many great pieces, but Matt 692 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: Ryan just kind of like, uh yeah, it hurts me. 693 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: You know, it should be more. Hey, Johnny Buttons, I 694 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: um sorry, I'm waiting to people randomly. Sorry, Tina, I'm sorry. 695 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: I did not acknowledge you. I'm not acknowledged find find 696 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: people behind by It's so distracting. I'm trying to make 697 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: a point here because and and Johnny Buttons is a 698 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: huge Ohio staate guy. I was, I was pounding the 699 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: table for Mike Thomas, so you would have been happy 700 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: with that. Uh, but Matt Ryan definitely ruins the whole thing. 701 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: He's he is, uh, he's uninspiring. And you look at 702 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, You're like part of you thinks that he 703 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: could be so much better, that he deserves so much 704 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: better to play with a real coach and a real 705 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: real I had eighteen hundred yards and eight touchdowns. Lest well, 706 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: I want I can't want more. He was he was 707 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: my first round draft pick in one of my leagues. 708 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know everything about this This team just stinks. 709 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what it is. It 710 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: is Matt Ryan, So I guess Okay, real question though, 711 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean next year, Devonte Freeman, Tevin Coleman, how does 712 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: this shake out? Okay, First, before we get to that, 713 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: I think you guys are being a little too hard 714 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: on saying everything about this team. So I didn't say 715 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: I didn't say everything. He said it. You said it 716 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: not so many words. You just tried to pin it 717 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: all on poor Maddie Ice who because you know what's 718 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: funny is I'll end up drafting Justin Hardy super early. 719 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: He was, he was one of my he's already one 720 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: of my preseason dangers. Sounds uh like the thing is 721 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is who we thought he was. Like, he 722 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: is who he is. We know what he's gonna do. 723 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: This was just uh lower year for him than in 724 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: the past. Otherwise he's gonna throw to thirty touchdowns. It's 725 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: not gonna be super exciting, But this is an offense 726 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: where it was built to funnel through the main guys, 727 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: Like that's why Julio Jones got a gazillion targets and 728 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: DeVonta Freeman had a Cagelian touches. Now onto your question, 729 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: Marcus about Tevin Coleman. These the damn offseason reports are 730 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: already starting like, Oh, we can't wait to get Tivin 731 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: Coleman more involved, Like we think he's gonna be a 732 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: big part of this offense. Like we heard all this 733 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 1: last year, and we saw that this offense operated most 734 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: efficiently when DeVonta Freeman was the workhorse. So I I 735 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: don't know that they're going to look at the tape 736 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, let's strip him of all those touches. 737 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: But it does make me a little concerned since, as 738 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: we noted in the off season, Tevin Coleman is this 739 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: regime running back. Draft pick Devanta Freeman was a holdover 740 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: from the last one, so they are naturally gonna feel 741 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: more invested in uh In Coleman. It's just gonna we're 742 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to wait and see what how it plays out. See, 743 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: but I feel like it's people who drafted Coleman last 744 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: year who want to be like who want to be 745 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: in James James co Like people who drafted him last 746 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: year want to listen Davante Freeman And I said it 747 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: when he was a rookie, and I was I was 748 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: famous wrong, But but he he came through for us 749 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: in the second and I think, like you at some point, 750 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: I understand that you draft a guy and you're like, oh, 751 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: we really want him to succeed. But then it's also 752 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 1: the same thing what happened to Monty Ball in Denver. 753 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, by the way, you're not as 754 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: good as the guy who was already here, So I'm 755 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: sorry you're not playing. And I think that Freeman is 756 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: gonna be that guy. Obviously, the biggest concern would be injuries, 757 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: which is the concern with every single running back out there. 758 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: So if you just want to draft for the best guy, 759 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: the guy who will end up being the number one guy, 760 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: all things being equal, it's gonna be Freeman. I Yeah, 761 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: I like, if we were drafting right now, I would 762 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: I would take Freeman probably in the second round, feel 763 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: a little nervous about it. But as it gets closer, 764 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: hopefully and we see that it's going to go back 765 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: to because Freeman played really well this year. He played 766 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: really well. Um, I would be much more comfortable taking 767 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: him in that range as a low end RB one. 768 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: So then where would you take Coleman? Presumably as a 769 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: handcuff somewhere later And I'd take a throw a dart 770 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: at Coleman and like round eight to ten, always like 771 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: a fourth running back or something with the handcuff and 772 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: the upside potential. And oh yeah, I would definitely. Uh, 773 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: it depends on who drafted Freeman. If it was somebody 774 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 1: who I didn't really like, I would probably draft Coleman 775 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: a little bit early, just in case, just to have 776 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: him there. Um. So any other past catchers on this team, 777 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: I mean, there's obviously Julio Jones is gonna be talked 778 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: about in the first round, no surprise there anybody else. 779 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Roddy White may not be in Atlanta 780 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: next year. Um, I know you mentioned justin Hardy Rank. Yeah, buddy, 781 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna be the number two tenured Falcons wide receiver 782 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: because very well could be. I mean, last year it 783 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: was Julio Jones two and three targets, DeVonta Freeman with 784 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: nineties seven he was number two on the team the 785 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: running back, followed by Jacob Tammy with eight one. So 786 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: I'm with Frank, I'm maybe I'll throw a super late 787 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: round Darrett justin hardy Er. See what else they do 788 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: in the draft or if that free I mean, it's 789 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: not a great free agent class, but uh yeah not 790 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: really not not gonna get on that Roddy White or 791 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: Jacob Tammy bandwagon anything else worth talking about with the Falcons. Well, 792 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 1: also just real quick because this like this offense, with 793 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: the coordinator situation, everything, it's one that in the past 794 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: has funneled through the main guy with Kyle Shanahan. I 795 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: don't think I'd have to look, but I feel like 796 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 1: historically he hasn't had a lot of number two fantasy 797 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: wide receivers that have been super relevant in his times 798 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: as coordinator. So that would be my hesitancy with with 799 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: grabbing anybody too highly other than Julio Jones in this offense. 800 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: Does it seem impossible? Though Matt Ryan had twenty one 801 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: touchdown passes last and he one in this in this 802 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: era of the end. I mean, if we're talking like 803 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: or something, I'm sure it's a right, that's a that's 804 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: a big deal. Like he had twenty one and he 805 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: still had sixteen interceptions and I he had and that 806 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: was one. He had three touchdowns against, uh, the Indianapolis Colts, 807 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: and then there's a lot of games where it's won 808 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: one zero one. I mean, gosh, this guy, I don't 809 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: understand he he gets kind of a free pass. Like 810 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: everybody always has his perception that Matt Ryan's is one 811 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: of the upper echelon quarterbacks of the league. And of 812 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: course you're not gonna get rid of them because again, 813 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's a there's a lack of quality quarterbacks 814 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL. But good lord, like, and he's in 815 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: his he's in his ninth year. Like it's not like 816 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: he's a young guy where you're like, hey, he's ready 817 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: to take this Like this is it. This is Matt Ryan. This, 818 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this is exactly who the thing is though, uh, 819 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, to to pull from our friends at the 820 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, he is above their the Dalton 821 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: scale or whatever it is, that Alex Smith scale now 822 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: where like he's he's good enough to be or every 823 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: year starter, and you know he can take you into 824 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs, but is he going to be that dominant 825 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: player on the field like a Cam Newton or an 826 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson, like god, I mean, and 827 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: if you got a quarterback like you gotta go. I mean, 828 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: the Broncos were able to win with a subpark quarterback 829 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: this year, and I think that so it's not out 830 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: of the realm of possibility that the Falcons could one 831 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: day win a championship. But your defense is gotta be 832 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: good because Matt Ryan's not winning the game and there's 833 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: is not at least not then down. All right, Uh, 834 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. The Saints offense picked up. I mean 835 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: it started the you know, we we we spent a 836 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: lot of time to start of the year, you know, 837 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: looking for the Saints maybe to be explosive. I think 838 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: it took them some time to kind of get into that. 839 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: But uh, Mark Ingram had one of his better seasons. 840 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: And I was on this show saying that he was 841 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: gonna have double digit touchdowns this year. Yeah, wait, what 842 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: did he get to? He had six? Book But I 843 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: think he would have gotten he would have gotten there 844 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: if he didn't get hurt, and he missed a bunch 845 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: of time, and then I think threw everything off. I 846 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: really firmly believe that. I think I think he can 847 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: still be a double digit touchdown guy one day if 848 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: he could ever play you know, fifteen sixteen games, which 849 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: which hasn't happened since his second year in the league. 850 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: Um again, no running back depth out there. Would you 851 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: take mark Ingram as one of the top ten guys 852 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: off the board Tompson running backs? I should say, yeah, 853 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 1: top ten running backs for sure. Top ten, not top 854 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: ten players, I know that, but the Tompson Tompson running back. 855 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of mark Ingram since his renaissance 856 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: two years ago, uh where he turned his career around, 857 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 1: and I have had him in a lot of leagues. 858 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: I'd like his running style. It fits with a little 859 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 1: bit more what they're trying to do. I wonder if 860 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna actually have ways that they get C. J. 861 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: Spiller involved this year. But I mean mark Ingram actually 862 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: was like I wish I knew had to stat off 863 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: the top of my head. I totally forgot to grab 864 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: it beforehand. But he was like one of the leading 865 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: backs in like targets and total touches early in the 866 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: season because he was just getting everything from that offense. 867 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: He was getting all the receptions and all of the 868 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: rush attempts except sometimes near the goal line. I think that, 869 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, the targets thing, I think was the one 870 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: that surprised us so much. I mean, we expected him 871 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: to get a lot of carries. The fact that he 872 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: was catching so many passes earlier in this season, I 873 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 1: felt like caught a lot of us off guard. Yeah, 874 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean even when because c. C. J. Spiller joined 875 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: the bunch, right, even even though he missed like what 876 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: an Ingram missed like five six games? Actually I haven't 877 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: right here, he missed, Yeah, he missed five games or 878 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: four games, he was still the fifth. He's fifth on 879 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 1: the team. And targets like that just pretty amazing. Yeah, 880 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: when you consider how prolific that passing offense is. You 881 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: know what, Here's the thing is, I I have mark 882 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: Ingram in the League of Leagues, which is a keeper league, 883 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: and uh, I'm really sweating out if if mad Forte 884 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: goes down there because I feel like I'm sitting on 885 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: it because I I did this thing. I moved a 886 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: lot of people around, and I ended up with mark Ingram, 887 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: but improving myself in other areas and everything. But I'm 888 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: like looking at it and looking at this free agent 889 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: class and like watch four tastes gonna come down there 890 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: and ruin it all, ruin it all for me. I 891 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: like him. I mean, honestly, I feel very comfortable with him. 892 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: And mark Ingram is one of those guys. And I 893 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: know I talked about this at great length, but he 894 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: is one of those guys that after you get your 895 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: first couple of players and you load up with wide 896 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: receivers and a tight end, perhaps if you get Rob Gronkowski, 897 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 1: mark Ingram's have perfect back to have as you start 898 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: filling it in with the other guys that you're hoping 899 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna make that leap. Mark Ingram, to me, he's 900 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: got enough of a pedigree that you can at least 901 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: expect some consistency as long as he's helped. You know, 902 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,280 Speaker 1: he's like the Honda Civic of running backs. Like anybody's 903 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: gonna be super appressed that that's what you drive, No, 904 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: but when you're still driving it thirty years down the road, 905 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: like and he puts yourn eighteen inch rims on it, 906 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: and yeah, a new paint job, you know. But yeah, 907 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: for rather than thirty years, you get hopefully sixteen games 908 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: out of him. I'm a big I'm a big fan 909 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: of putting bigger rims on your car now. I didn't 910 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: realize how big of a difference that really made until 911 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: I just recently upgraded. But then your thinner tires generally, No, no, no, 912 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: that the tires aren't that thin. No, no, no fun. 913 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: I guess I guess I'm getting low profile. I guess 914 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: I should ask you how big of the rims you're 915 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 1: putting on your car now? The rims that the rims, 916 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: it's not ridiculous. It's not the low pro tho you're 917 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: thinking of the skinny lopess. We're not doing that. I'm 918 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: getting a regular tire. Okay, an eighteen inch rim putting 919 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 1: on a regular tire that the fine folks in America's 920 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: Tire Center or whatever like rank just glance at me. 921 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: He's like, when is Galhardt? Because we don't have cos 922 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: so we don't we have a little bit more time, 923 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more freedom. He's not gonna stoke the 924 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: fire of your tangents over here. But I'm just saying, like, 925 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: it's a nice thing think and if you're if you're 926 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: riding around on just maybe well you were the one 927 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: who brought up the Honda Civic comparis. I know that 928 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 1: the stock rims on that are like fifteen sixteen inches. 929 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: You want to upgrade it. It makes your ride so 930 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: much more smoother, And I guess that's the equivalent of 931 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: having a little upgrade on the offensive life. That was 932 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: one thing too. We didn't talk to um John Moore 933 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 1: about Derrick Henry. Yeah, we slipped. He mentioned him a 934 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: little bit when we're talking about it, and uh, I 935 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: mean has been made about Henry already. It would have 936 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: been good to get his opinion on it. But made 937 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: me think of it because I'm thinking about who the 938 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: cowboys are gonna end up with. I know that there 939 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: was something coming out where somebody said that perhaps Ezekiel 940 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: Elliott well Lewis Riddick from ESPN this morning on Twitter. 941 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: That's just when somebody else said that he would be 942 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: shocked if shock Zeke made it out of the top four, 943 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: which basically in the top four, So nothing's out of 944 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. You never know. There you go sorry, no, 945 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: I brought it back to a football tangent. I like it. 946 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Right, Let's talk about these bid receivers. 947 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: I would say Brandon Cooks really Sneed. Um. You know, Cooks, 948 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,720 Speaker 1: we expected to have a good season, started out, started 949 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: very poorly, turned it around, had a pretty good year. Really, 950 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 1: Sneed was the guy that kind of came out of nowhere. 951 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 1: And I mean he was in that offense. He did 952 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: come out of nowhere. There's no kind of about it. Um. 953 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: And so now you're going in the next year. We 954 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: know that Marcus Colston is not gonna be there anymore. 955 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: He's he's been released. Um, these in theory are the 956 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: guys to carry this offense. My concern with Sneed is 957 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: he was hot for a few weeks and it seems 958 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: that everybody their defense has kind of started rolling more 959 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 1: attention to him, and he faded away a little bit. 960 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: He did get injured too, though that didn't help. UM. 961 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 1: I know Harmon actually put him through. Reception perception numbers 962 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: were pretty were pretty solid. Um. But I think I 963 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: think what happened to was it was just a volume thing, 964 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: like looking at some of his targets, like when he 965 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: would go into those spells of not you know, getting 966 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 1: as many looks. There were five target game or six 967 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: targeting and hopefully he's not a guy that needs a 968 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: ton of volume. But he had out eleven targets, ten targets, 969 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, eight twelve things like that. I'd be interested 970 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 1: to see if they add a piece in the draft 971 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: because they could maybe use um. And when I wrote 972 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: up our La Kwan Treadwell for a Prospect to day 973 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: series which you guys can read it NFL dot com 974 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: slash Fantasy, I had thought he might make sense for 975 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: the Saints because they've got two fast guys and Snead 976 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: and Uh Cooks. Cooks and play outside are in the slot. 977 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: Snead played really well in the slot last year. He 978 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: put treadwell at big body chain mover on the outside. 979 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: Could be a fun little passing attack there. But I 980 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: like Cooks. What do you guys think of hey wide 981 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: receiver to range for Cooks this year? Again? Probably uh 982 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: with Brandon Cooks. I like him. Last week we were 983 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,240 Speaker 1: talking about Sammy Watkins. Who would you rather have Cooks 984 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: or Watkins. I'd rather have Watkins. Okay, I'm I'm with 985 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: you too. I just know um, I'll just put it 986 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: out there. I I you know, we have people from 987 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: around the industry coming on. Matthew Berry had his top 988 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 1: two hundred out and I was checking it out after 989 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: we're done, because I'm like, I wonder where he has 990 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: Watkins and uh he had him at nineteen and he 991 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: had Cooks at like number twelve, And I started thinking 992 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 1: about but out of the whole two a wide receiver. 993 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: So I was just like, hum, I am I missing something? 994 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: Am I not seeing it? Because I love Watkins and uh, 995 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: and I know Matthew was at the combine this week 996 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 1: and talked about how the Bills coaches were raving about him. 997 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: So now it makes me think too, like, I bet 998 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: he moves up. But I really like Watkins. But I 999 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: but Cooks again, another one of those guys that if 1000 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 1: you're if you're at the back end of the second round, 1001 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: that I think he falls to you early in the 1002 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: third round. I would love Cooks in the third. It 1003 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: depends on I mean, I I'm thinking like, if you 1004 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: were at the swing pick at the second if you're 1005 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: right there, and I think that that's where Cooks falls 1006 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: a lot of well Watkins is there a lot too? 1007 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 1: Because as I do my mock drafts and everything, I'm always, 1008 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I always like to start off at 1009 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: the number one position just to see kind of where 1010 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 1: everything goes, And a lot of times it sits there, 1011 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: and I'm like, God, if I had Antonio Brown and 1012 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: you're playing the thing where you could play either three receivers, 1013 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 1: you play two in flex, I'm like, I would happily 1014 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 1: go Watkins and Cooks right there to Brown Watkins Cooks, 1015 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: and then take your shots on runningways later. I mean 1016 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: I also, I also feel like Sammy Watkins I think 1017 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: has a higher ceiling. I don't. I don't think we 1018 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: have scratched exactly what Sammy Watkins can do. I feel 1019 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: I feel like we're a lot closer to seeing who 1020 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks is. And that's not bad. I think he's 1021 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: a really talented receiver. I just think he's a lot 1022 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: closer to his ceiling than Watkins. Right, Watkins is the 1023 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 1: guy that can that could really just take over a game, 1024 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: as we saw couple of times last year. Once he 1025 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 1: demanded the targets and he got it because he can 1026 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: take short routes to the house. He can beat guys deep. 1027 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: He's got better size than Cooks where he can jump 1028 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,439 Speaker 1: over guys and get the ball still, and I think 1029 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: that was that was might have been the sign where 1030 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: they finally started giving him the targets he was demanding 1031 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 1: and that offense kind of opened up where Sammy could 1032 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,439 Speaker 1: be be poised for a massive year this year. Yeah, 1033 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm really yeah, I'm really excited about him. But I 1034 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: it's interesting though, just to see, like I've seen the 1035 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 1: variants on him, like so wide ranging, because there's got 1036 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: a lot of guys I respect, like Matthew Berry, who 1037 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: I who had him low, and then some of the 1038 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,479 Speaker 1: guys I like to also had him real high. Because 1039 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: I think and I know we did that. I know 1040 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: we did the a f C East last week, but 1041 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: I really think and it just ties into Cooks because 1042 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: I consider them to be very similar. But I I 1043 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: just think, I just think Watkins is just on the 1044 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: verge of just having a monster season. I'm right there 1045 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: with you. I mean, because he was he was injured 1046 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: for a lot of last year, don't forget, and he's 1047 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: still finished with over a thousand yards and nine touchdowns. 1048 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna and he finally has a quarterback that he's 1049 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 1: going to be with and tire Taylor there. I think 1050 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,399 Speaker 1: it's all it's all lining up for him, and we're 1051 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: already just throwing fuel on the fire in that hype race. 1052 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: And he well, he also stepped by stepped up by 1053 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: demanding the ball too, yes, which I know a lot 1054 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,919 Speaker 1: of people like roll their eyes and and delivering though too. Yeah, 1055 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: that's the thing he did, the throw me the damn ball, 1056 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: and then he actually did stuff. There's a difference. Lot 1057 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: of wide receivers of wine for it. Some might not 1058 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: make the plays. Watkins demanded it and then he went 1059 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: on a huge tear down the stretch. Funny how a 1060 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: conversation about Brandon Cooks and Willie Sneed ended up with 1061 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 1: a dissertation on the SAMI. Yeah, so I think it's 1062 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: important for comparison. So it is. And the last thing 1063 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm Willie Snead is uh he had so last year 1064 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,280 Speaker 1: Sneed had a hundred one targets. He had sixty nine catches, 1065 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: just shy of a thousand yards. If he didn't get injured, 1066 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: he probably would have crossed it only three touchdowns which 1067 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: could which could bounce back. Drew Brees was injured as well. 1068 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 1: That was actually like as prolific as that passing offense is. 1069 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: Drew Brees didn't hit five thousand yards whoa, and only 1070 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: only thirty two touchdowns, So I think that offense could 1071 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: could take a bounce back this year. And uh, touchdowns 1072 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: are one of the most widely variant statistics anyway, So 1073 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: Sneed is a guy I will definitely be taking shots 1074 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: at as a wide receiver is my like wid receiper 1075 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: three to five range later in drafts, depending on the 1076 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: board falls over to now the Tampa Bay ahead. I 1077 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: was gonna say, an alumnus of the you there, you 1078 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: go over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Um, okay, so this 1079 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: isn't on the list, but you mentioned touchdown variants and 1080 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing being waked, And the first 1081 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 1: name that comes to mind for me is Mike Evans. 1082 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,959 Speaker 1: Who there are a lot of people in this world 1083 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: who are much higher on Mike Evans than I am. Um, 1084 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think he's fine. Had the fantastic rookie 1085 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: year thousand yards, twelve touchdowns. Last year more yards, had 1086 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: more catches and more yards, but just three touchdowns. Maybe 1087 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: that was a product of working with Jamison new quarterback 1088 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,959 Speaker 1: in the first year. What have you? Um, I mean, 1089 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: who will the real Mike Evans please stand up? I mean, 1090 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 1: are you are you a you know, closer to eight 1091 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: or nine touchdown guy. I'm not gonna say it's twell, 1092 00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 1: but maybe an eight or nine touchdown guy? Or are 1093 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 1: you going to be the three to five touchdown guy? 1094 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean, who is who? If he guesses he slides 1095 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 1: back into that eight or nine range. Let's not forget 1096 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: that he started the year with I think it was 1097 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: a hamstring injury and he missed the first couple of games. Um, 1098 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: and then he came back slowly and I think he 1099 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: missed some of the offseason work, so he didn't get 1100 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 1: that early rapport with Jamis. Jamis rookie year, solid rookie year. 1101 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: Only twenty two touchdowns though, so there's not a ton 1102 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 1: to go around, and you know he peppered them. He 1103 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: peppered them all throughout his offense. But Evans is clearly 1104 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: the guy. He had a d forty eight targets, which 1105 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: was more than double the next closest person on the team. UM. 1106 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: He and Jamis there were several games where they showed 1107 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: a good rapport and you could just kind of see like, oh, this, 1108 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: this is what, this is what's to come. So I 1109 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: would expect Evans to to kind of even out in 1110 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: both regards and maybe be like one of those A 1111 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: thousand and eight guys every year. Yeah, he seems like 1112 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: somebody who a lot of people are going to be 1113 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: sleeping on a little bit, who's kinda gonna fall through 1114 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 1: the cracks. Once again, I don't worry, I'll spit it 1115 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: out um. But again, he probably goes into that conversation 1116 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: too with Sammy Watkins Brandon Cooks, where it's that group 1117 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: of receivers where you're really gonna be having to make 1118 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: a decision on. I like Sammy Watkins obviously more than him. 1119 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: I like Evans over Brandon Cooks because it was something 1120 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: that you were saying about Sammy Watkins where the ceiling 1121 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: on him is really high. And I think that this 1122 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: buccaneer's offense has a chance to take a little bit 1123 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: of a step forward. I think that Lovey Smith is 1124 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: probably holding him back a little bit because he's very conservative. 1125 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: So I think now with their cutter, even though he 1126 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: did nothing as the head coach of Arizona State, I 1127 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: am willing to overlook that and think that perhaps we'll 1128 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: look at the Boise State. Well he was, he was 1129 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: piggybacking off Dan Hawkins, but he I'm gonna say that 1130 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: he ends up taking a step up before Dan Hawkins. 1131 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 1: He was, he was Hawkins offensive coordinator. I'm somewhat confident now. Yeah, 1132 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: it's one of those things I'm gonna question myself because 1133 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: I thought Hawkins Hawkins went to Colorado and then Kurter 1134 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,880 Speaker 1: cut Cutter became the head coach. Then he went to 1135 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: the Cutter was the head coach at Boise State from 1136 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: to two thousand and then Chris Peterson took off after him. 1137 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,439 Speaker 1: And then yeah, because Hawkins would have been well, would 1138 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: have been a Dirk Cutter. Dirk Cutter was the ead 1139 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: coach Hawkins was from O one to oh five. And 1140 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: then all right, Well, for those fans that haven't turned 1141 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 1: off the podcast for that dirt, this has been This 1142 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: has been your Mountain West minute on the Fenaschool Calculator, 1143 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,439 Speaker 1: Mike Evans right now is going as the wide receiver thirteen, uh, 1144 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: several spots ahead of Brandon Cooks. Actually, who is that 1145 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: right wide receiver twenty three? I think for Cooks, if 1146 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: my quick counting was accurately. Cook's is going on Fantasy 1147 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 1: Bool Calculator is going after Randall Cobb, Jarvis Landry, t 1148 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: Y Hilton, Martavis Bryant, and Josh Gordon. That's interesting to me. 1149 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 1: That could change this offseason. But anyways, Yeah, that was 1150 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: a good question on Mike Evans. Uh this back this 1151 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: backfield though, Let's talk about Well, first off, do we 1152 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: all believe that do we think Doug Martin is going 1153 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 1: to be back in Tampa next year? I do. I 1154 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: think he's gonna stay with the box. I think he will. 1155 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 1: It would be smart for all parties. But you never know, right, 1156 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 1: you never know, so which brings us to the real 1157 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: question I had on here's Charles Sims at Chuck Sims. Sorry, 1158 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 1: you're right, Chuck Sims. No, I mean, don't make lit 1159 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 1: at all. I stopped trying to make him. I'm not 1160 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: trying to make him happen. I just want to have 1161 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 1: a discussion about Chuck Sims because he had over a 1162 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 1: thousand scrimmage yards last year, and I believe did he 1163 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: creep into the top twenty running macks He did? He 1164 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 1: the RV two. So even if even if Doug Martin 1165 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: is there. I think Chuck Sims can have value as 1166 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 1: a potential flex play in the right matchup or especially 1167 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: in PPR leagues. What say you, guys, Um, yeah, I 1168 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 1: mean there's some value there. I mean, he's he's a 1169 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,959 Speaker 1: guy that you're probably waiting till you know, nine tenth 1170 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: round before you you take him off the board. Um, 1171 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: you know. I I don't know if i'd like him 1172 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: as a hand maybe the handcuff, but I think he's 1173 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 1: a guy that you you plug in as a flex 1174 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 1: play when the matchup is right. Certainly if Doug Martin 1175 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, gets injured, he's there. But um, I mean 1176 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: I think that's that's his ceiling right now. Yeah. I 1177 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 1: I still he's kind of a big guy. It's disappointing 1178 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: because he's some of those It's again, it's the it's 1179 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 1: the bias that you carry from picking a guy up, 1180 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 1: hoping that he's gonna come through for you and then 1181 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,800 Speaker 1: having him not do that, which kind of uh clouds 1182 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: your judgment and everything. You know, if if Charles Simms 1183 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 1: ends up being the number one running back there, it's 1184 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 1: gonna be his job. They draft somebody behind him, I 1185 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: would feel pretty I would feel somewhat confident with it. 1186 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: I would be very happy to take a chance on him, 1187 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: but I'm just not there yet. So crazy Charles Sims numbers. 1188 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 1: He was second on the team and targets with seventy, 1189 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 1: behind Mike Evans. That's the one thing. And he was 1190 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: tied for the team league in receiving touchdowns. He and 1191 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: in Austin Severian Jenkins each had four receiving touchdowns. He 1192 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,360 Speaker 1: is an excellent athlete to Charles Sims, which I know 1193 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the de measurables and metrics people on 1194 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: Twitter and in the community are really high on Charles 1195 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: Sims this year. Um, I just think he's a name 1196 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: to watch, especially with what happens with Doug Martin in 1197 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 1: the coming weeks with free agency. Um, and even if 1198 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: Doug Martin stays, Sims might be a named a circle 1199 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 1: as a as a late round guy because we've seen 1200 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 1: Doug Martin hasn't exactly been the pinnacle of health in 1201 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: his career so far. He was great last year, but yeah, 1202 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: you know what it was as I picked him up, 1203 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: uh Falcons game, he did nothing. He was Look you 1204 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: looked at it, You're like, oh, it's a great matchup, like, 1205 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: you know a lot of these variables right there, and 1206 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: you need somebody in a flex spot. And uh got 1207 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: that didn't do much expected. I know that once what 1208 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 1: was the Saints. Once Adam Rink has been burned by 1209 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,359 Speaker 1: a player, it's hard to go back fooling him once. 1210 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: Shame on you. Once I'm agreedede fooled, fooled again. I 1211 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: hang on to it for a long I do not 1212 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 1: let it go. Um. I will still carry a grudge 1213 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: with people, all right, real quick, and then let's get 1214 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 1: to depths. Uh. Jamis QWEE thirteen is a rookie. He's 1215 00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,879 Speaker 1: mentioned only twenty two passing touchdowns. He had a few 1216 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: uh rushing scores which helped boost his total, but he 1217 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: played pretty well. Is anybody buying him? Is maybe a 1218 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,360 Speaker 1: low end QB one if you wait on quarterbacks. I 1219 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 1: don't know that I could make him a QB. I 1220 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: mean you're talking about a QB one. Yeah, I just 1221 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 1: I just don't know, because that that would mean to 1222 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: me that more often than not, I'm putting Jamis in 1223 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: my starting lineup, and I don't know that I'm quite 1224 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: there yet with him. That's fair. Yeah, there's a lot 1225 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks out there. I don't think that anybody's gonna 1226 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: be in the league that's large enough to warrant you 1227 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: playing him unless you know you're perhaps you're in a 1228 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: four teen team league or something like that. A lot 1229 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: of the things that I like about jamis Winston help 1230 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 1: other players like. I like his fearlessness. I like his uh, 1231 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: his ability to try to thread the needle all the time. 1232 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: I guess his gumption or anything like that. He's just 1233 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: not afraid of anything. And he makes passes and a 1234 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: lot of other quarterbacks would shy away from, which sometimes 1235 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: results in interceptions. And but he does try to make plays, 1236 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: and I think that that's gonna end up helping guys 1237 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: like Mike Evans down the road, Austin Cinfarian Jenkins is 1238 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: really is one of the stories we should be talking 1239 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 1: about because the the offense could absolutely feature him too. 1240 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,080 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of good stuff going on. But 1241 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that Winston can be a QB one 1242 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 1: for you this year. So uh. In his last out 1243 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: of his last eleven games coming off the by he 1244 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: had eighteen or more Fantasy points seven of those and 1245 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: he never had fewer than twelve point eight, which was 1246 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: when he was kind of starting to put it together 1247 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. Multiple touchdown passes in just four of 1248 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: those games, but he had five rushing touchdowns in that spans. 1249 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I also think a lot of it really 1250 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: is and we talk about game flow in the offense 1251 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: and all that kind of thing. And the one thing 1252 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 1: I noticed early in the year, it seemed as though 1253 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: they were trying to put a lot on Jamis and 1254 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: and having him try to manage the game and throw 1255 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: the ball a lot, and he really struggled, especially early 1256 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: in the season when they started to work the running 1257 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: game in more, When Doug Martin started to see more 1258 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,080 Speaker 1: work and they were able to move the ball on 1259 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: the ground, I thought, that's when Jamis got better. So yeah, obviously, 1260 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: having a year of experience, maybe he can manage the 1261 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: offense a little bit better and he can be more 1262 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: of the conduit through which everything flows. But I still think, 1263 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, they're going to need balance in order for 1264 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: Jamie's to be a lot more successful. See, but I 1265 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: don't want him to put the reins on him too 1266 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 1: much because he's kind of that He needs to have 1267 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 1: that kind of swagger, He needs to have the ability 1268 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 1: to go out there and make place, you know, and 1269 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 1: sometimes he's gonna throw an interception, but a lot of 1270 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: times he's gonna end up making a huge play for you. 1271 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 1: He did it at Florida State. I think he can 1272 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: do it at this level. But again, because there's so 1273 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: much depth at the quarterback position, Matt Ryan, notwithstanding um 1274 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 1: that you can go with other guys and perhaps Winston's 1275 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: just more of a matchup plates based player. There you go. Alright, 1276 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 1: let's dap. It was that? Alright, Daily Death time, Adam 1277 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: record you ready to death? Oh? Absolutely? All right, go 1278 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 1: for it. Depending on when you're listening to this podcast, 1279 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: big depths to Major League Baseball because spring training is 1280 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: starting on March second. Spring training games start on March second, 1281 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: which is amazing again kicking off probably perhaps the most 1282 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: magical sports month of the season. Everything is going great. Uh, 1283 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,920 Speaker 1: love everything about spring training and everything. This is actually 1284 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: gonna be my first time going the spring training, which 1285 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 1: is usually not really Yeah, listen, I go to forty 1286 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Angel games a year. No, but I figured you had 1287 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 1: made your way down to Tempe Diablo before you would 1288 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: think you would think, but you would be wrong. Alright, 1289 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: But I also want to give some dapths to the Flash. 1290 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 1: What you know, the first bad is DC movies are 1291 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people aren't having high 1292 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: hopes are gonna because I'm still catching up, so you're 1293 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: gonna drop an they spoilers. I think, God, they're on 1294 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: a little mini hiatus right now. That show continues to 1295 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 1: be great. I really like that. They really like Jamis Winston. 1296 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: They take some chances. They're really they're throwing haymakers. There 1297 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 1: was no slow o burn on the Flash. They're really 1298 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: getting after it. I appreciate that. Depths to them. Depts 1299 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: to uh Chris Law, who you might know him for 1300 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: the Rich Eyes and Show. He was a co worker 1301 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 1: of ours for a long time. Here he uh as 1302 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 1: we're talking right now. His wife is in labor, so 1303 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 1: hopefully baby Law will be here by the time that 1304 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 1: you're listening to this. Hopefully it is a short labor. 1305 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,280 Speaker 1: I know his wife's first name. I don't know that 1306 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 1: it's out there for public consumption, so I'm not gonna 1307 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 1: say it, but congratulations to them in their family. You 1308 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: know what it's like having a newborn, so it's gonna 1309 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun for them. Anti Depths for 1310 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 1: the new FIFA president who's saying that the World Cup 1311 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 1: in Qatar is gonna stand. Like, come on, admit your mistake, 1312 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: pull that one back and just do the right thing. 1313 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: What am I wrong? You're wrong? You need to do 1314 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: not wrong. Uh. Anti depths for not having a vago 1315 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: to in them. More memorium for the Oscars, Oscars and 1316 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 1: Star Wars. I said this on Twitter. I said, not 1317 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 1: having Star Wars in the Best Picture category is like 1318 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: having an NBA m v P vote without Steph Curry. 1319 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 1: It was the best movie of the year. Everybody went 1320 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,880 Speaker 1: to see it. It's the best picture. I'm sorry. I 1321 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 1: know there was a lot of good stuff that a 1322 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 1: lot of people did. It's a good picture. And spoiler 1323 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people like, well, it's really 1324 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: listen listen spoiler alert. By the way, if you haven't 1325 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 1: seen episodes seven, I'm gonna spoil lip out of it 1326 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 1: right now and turn off the past, turn off the 1327 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: podcast if you have, let's listen to. Somebody's like, well, 1328 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: it was just kind of a sciencefic. I'm like, look, 1329 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: it's the story of a guy who's who's a terrible 1330 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 1: father who neglects his son, who goes on to be 1331 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: one of the world's one of the galaxies worst dictators, 1332 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 1: destroyer of planets, and so he goes to rectify the 1333 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: situation and gets killed for it. It's an emotional story. 1334 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: It's very deep, and so I think the story about 1335 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: fathers and sons. It is the fact that it got 1336 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: no consideration. He's just and I wouldn't be so upset 1337 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: if it was Mad Max and it's great movie. But 1338 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: it's like you're obviously looking at a movie and being 1339 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 1: like a lot of people like this, let's nominated. It 1340 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: was also a better movie though Mad Max. Yeah. I 1341 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: love Star Wars. I love Star Wars, but objectively it 1342 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 1: was a better movie. I can't deal with the what 1343 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: it hating? You're hating it if you say to say 1344 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 1: that it's not the best movie of the year, is 1345 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: hating this Twitter generation? If you're not, if you're not 1346 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 1: for it, you're against it. Probably doesn't even eat cereal anymore? 1347 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 1: Uh you want to follow that there? I guess I'll 1348 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 1: daily dap. I picked up recently one of my comic 1349 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 1: book runs, Sandman Overture, which is a long awaited like 1350 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 1: prequill that Neil Gaiman wrote for his magnum opus Sandman 1351 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 1: one of the best comic book series ever. I haven't 1352 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 1: finished yet, but it's been awesome just hanging out with 1353 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 1: those characters again, seeing the beautiful artwork and stuff. And 1354 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 1: then I was going to uh daily dap to the 1355 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Oscars for the most part being quite an enjoyable, enjoyable show. 1356 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 1: I thought Chris Rock did a fantastic job hosting. It's 1357 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 1: happy to see mad Max pulling so many awards, happy 1358 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 1: for Leo to finally get his happy for Arson excuse tremendous, 1359 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: and I was happy that Revenen didn't win Best Picture 1360 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: because it didn't deserve it. And I thought Spotlight was great. 1361 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: So there are my DAPs. Marcus, What do you got 1362 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 1: for us? I mentioned I didn't watch a second of 1363 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: the Oscars. Well, and you, I know, you boycotting Oscars. 1364 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 1: Boycott because Georgetown Carolina something like that. Yeah, yeah, it 1365 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 1: was I forget what games a youngster, and it was 1366 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 1: either Georgetown Carolina or Georgetown Villanova. Wasn't sure, but I'm 1367 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,920 Speaker 1: one of those. You ended up having to watch the 1368 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 1: Oscars and you ended up missing a great college but 1369 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 1: a historic college basketball game because of it. It was 1370 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 1: the villanova whatever I missed one. I just know Georgetown 1371 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 1: was involved. Um so my daily dapts one. Uh. The 1372 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: folks at the boy bowing dot net they found a 1373 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: link to an injured site. Um this is not the PC. 1374 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 1: This is for the grown ups here, but it is 1375 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 1: every Playboy centerfold ever what yeah, uh so that Just 1376 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 1: go to Boing Boying, look up Playboy centerfolds you will 1377 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 1: find the link. Enjoy um adapts to the figures they're 1378 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: closing in. It's probably gonna be just static. It's gonna 1379 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen seconds of static and as part of 1380 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 1: the plot, amazing to look at the grooming habits. Indeed, 1381 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: uh shout out to the Muppets. You know, I haven't 1382 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 1: watched the new show at all. I hear it's supposed 1383 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 1: to be very, very good. But uh, I see a 1384 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,880 Speaker 1: link this morning from Rolling Stone and the headline says 1385 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 1: see Jack White saying you are the sunshine of my 1386 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 1: life with the Muppets. That combines so many things that 1387 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 1: I enjoy Jack White, Stevie Wonder and the Muppets. So 1388 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 1: it's actually for the season finale of the show. It 1389 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 1: airs tonights in the United States. I guess it already 1390 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 1: aired in Canada or something. I don't know. Canada's ahead 1391 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: of US. I don't know how, But how is that possible? 1392 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. But not only is he seeing you 1393 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,720 Speaker 1: are the Sunshine of My Life with Electric Mayhem backing 1394 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 1: him up, Apparently it is going to be released through 1395 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 1: Jack White's Third Man Record label. Uh, that's too. Sports Illustrated. 1396 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if any of you follow the s 1397 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,960 Speaker 1: I Vault on Twitter, but they always put out some 1398 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 1: of the great historic photos from Sports Illustrated throughout the 1399 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 1: long history of the magazine. They've just revamped their vaulting. 1400 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: Go to SI dot com slash vault and you can 1401 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: pretty much look up photos from you know, the whole history, 1402 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,880 Speaker 1: the whole long history of Sports Illustrated. They also linked 1403 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 1: to a lot of their big time cover stories from 1404 01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 1: the past, going back decades and decades. It's always a 1405 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,240 Speaker 1: fun it's a fun follow on Twitter, and it's definitely, 1406 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, for sports historians and just sports fans in general, 1407 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 1: a a good look back. And finally, Sharks shouts out 1408 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 1: to Hirado who fixed in my car. I had major 1409 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: electrical issues with my car over the weekend, all stemming 1410 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 1: from basically a bad jump of a battery. I learned 1411 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: more about my cars electrical system in the last twenty 1412 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 1: four hours or so than I ever imagined I would. 1413 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 1: But shouts out to Hirado who got my car back 1414 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 1: up and running again. It was weird. I could start 1415 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 1: the car. It ran. I had zero power to the interior, 1416 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 1: so like nothing doors, windows, pedometer, clock, radio, nothing on 1417 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 1: the inside of the car worked. But the car ran. 1418 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 1: So I can lease driving at the shop and have 1419 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 1: him take a look at it. And literally two hours 1420 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 1: later I was back up and running and it was 1421 01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 1: all good again. But it was. It was a frustrating afternoon. 1422 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: Shouts out to Toronto for helping out. What's nice rams 1423 01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 1: you got on your car? Come on like I have 1424 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:17,000 Speaker 1: fifteen to all right? I think I think that's a 1425 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: good way. Yeah. Well, thanks to John Morgan for podcast 1426 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 1: rate and comment on the podcast on iTunes and other places. 1427 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 1: That helps us know what you guys like, what you don't. 1428 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 1: If you want more rings discussions, that too, Right? Who's 1429 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,360 Speaker 1: the hottest on this audio podcast? Hot or Not podcast? 1430 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 1: I want? I want rankings? Fantasy podcast? Who would you 1431 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,840 Speaker 1: swipe right for? Who would you swipe left? For I 1432 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 1: understand coming in last scenes that I don't have any hair, 1433 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,440 Speaker 1: but it's okay. I still want to see what the 1434 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 1: people think. There are a lot of people who, all, right, 1435 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 1: so rate the podcast on its actual merits, on the 1436 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 1: hotness of the hosts or whatever have you. We just 1437 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it and it helps us stuff find out what 1438 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 1: you guys like. So I guess I'll do it for us. 1439 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 1: James Cole get better for the Wiskid for Wisconsin, Alex 1440 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,960 Speaker 1: Gelhardt in the Fantasy Man, Rick Adam Rank, I am 1441 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Grant. We will see h