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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. There we go to Mike in Colorado on

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Speaker 1: a wild Card line on Coast to Coast Mike, Oh,

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Speaker 1: good evening, and thank you so much for taking my

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Speaker 1: call a comment, and then I'll get to my questions.

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Speaker 1: So when we talk about kind of one hit wonders

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Speaker 1: of the nineties, it's really interesting because when you look

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Speaker 1: at one hit wonders songs of the nineties and one

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Speaker 1: hit wonders songs of today, they're a lot different. Um,

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Speaker 1: some of my favorite from the nineties were I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you remember the song Breathless from the Cores

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Speaker 1: and bob By Hanson and Man, but neither of those

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Speaker 1: are one hit wonder bands. See. Honestly, that's interesting because

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Speaker 1: it happens that people say that and one of the

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Speaker 1: things that like, although they are not as big a hits,

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Speaker 1: they do have, for example, Hanson had other songs that charted.

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Speaker 1: And so then it begins this whole conversation of what

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Speaker 1: really constitutes a one hit wonder. Is it really just

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Speaker 1: one big hit or just because there's been plenty of

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Speaker 1: bands who only had one hit period and that was it.

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Speaker 1: But other bands are called one hit wonders, but they

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Speaker 1: had other songs that were popular in the top twenty,

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Speaker 1: they just didn't make it in the top ten. So

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask, what are some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite one hit wonders? And also I was kind of

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Speaker 1: wondering how you got your start in the industry. I'm

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Speaker 1: a big fan of yours, and I really enjoy radio myself.

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Speaker 1: So well, you're nice, you know. So I teach radio

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Speaker 1: too here at Kansas State University, and I still I

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Speaker 1: mentor and I coach other people in their careers wherever possible,

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Speaker 1: whenever they ask. I don't bargein where I'm not needed.

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Speaker 1: But what I did, of course, was what we have.

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Speaker 1: You know. When I started was back in nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: four at my high school because we had a high

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Speaker 1: school radio station at at New Trier East, just north

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Speaker 1: of Chicago UM. I grew up not too far away

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Speaker 1: from the home alone house in UM in Winnetka, UM.

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Speaker 1: But the the that that was part of a legacy system, right,

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Speaker 1: so we look at different the way the industry has changed,

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of disruption to UM. The legacy,

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Speaker 1: the original legacy system of radio, which was you work

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Speaker 1: in the smallest markets and you work your way up

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Speaker 1: to the biggest. Well, so many small markets are so

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Speaker 1: fully automated that you don't have a chance to go

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Speaker 1: and you know, you know, play it. If we were

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Speaker 1: going to use that as a baseball analogy at the

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Speaker 1: single A or double A level, they just in many

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Speaker 1: of those stations just don't have that kind of training ground.

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Speaker 1: So really, go ahead, Sorry, no, pa, I was going

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Speaker 1: to say, certain people in the radio industry, like Howard Stern,

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Speaker 1: for example, will make it impossible for anyone to be

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Speaker 1: successful in a certain market, like when he was in

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Speaker 1: New York. I mean, you know at Steve Doll, I

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Speaker 1: know you worked at the leg in. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: make it so hard for anyone to break in. Well,

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Speaker 1: but but but Doll, Doll, he crushed him in. He

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Speaker 1: crushed Howard Stern in Chicago. Stern never caught on in

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Speaker 1: Chicago because of Steve Dall, because Steve Dall did that first.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people who say that Howard

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Speaker 1: Stern used to listen to Doll or get tapes of

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Speaker 1: Doll and would was copying because Doll was on the air.

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Speaker 1: You know, at least ten years before a Stern caught on,

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I think that part, that part is interesting,

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Speaker 1: but your your point about about syndicated product. It definitely

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Speaker 1: kept more people off the air, and this is part

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Speaker 1: of the same ongoing problem. Um that it's also a blessing.

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Speaker 1: But even here's a show like Coast to Coast. We're

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Speaker 1: on six hundred radio stations, so some of those stations

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Speaker 1: used to have live overnight people that they don't have anymore.

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Speaker 1: So I can't I mean, I benefit too from that

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Speaker 1: same legacy for today, For anybody who's trying to get

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Speaker 1: into it, the first thing you got to start doing

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Speaker 1: is podcasting, and you can podcast starting tomorrow, and you

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Speaker 1: can work on your chops and you can get you

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Speaker 1: know what. I just read an interesting article about AM

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Speaker 1: radio going all digital. It's going to be all digital

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Speaker 1: in five years, they predict, And it's really an interesting

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Speaker 1: kind of topic because I could definitely see AM going

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Speaker 1: all digital because you think most of the replays on

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Speaker 1: the AM radio are already uploaded to a podcast where

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Speaker 1: you can listen to it again. So it's kind of unfortunate,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's the route it's going. Well, I

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Speaker 1: would I think there's even evidence, I mean, the digitization

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Speaker 1: of the AM band. It follows what's happened in Europe

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Speaker 1: where that's there's already that that pursuit happened a while ago.

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Speaker 1: I think the bigger challenge coming up is whether a

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Speaker 1: radio is going to disappear completely and the successful AM

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Speaker 1: stations are going to move on to FM UM, and

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Speaker 1: that that is a migration which may be precipitated by

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Speaker 1: the FCC's need for for more bandwidth for other things.

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Speaker 1: So I don't I don't. I don't know that that's

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Speaker 1: going to save AM. But I know the reason why

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Speaker 1: you talk about that, and that's because you know the

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Speaker 1: signal strength and other problems associated with UH with AM

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Speaker 1: and especially in steel box buildings and all of the

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Speaker 1: RF that's out there. I wrote. I wrote a paper

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Speaker 1: on that about the future of AM radio UM two

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Speaker 1: or three years into my PhD program. So if you

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Speaker 1: googled my name and then I forget what the But

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Speaker 1: if you google my name and then put in FCC

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Speaker 1: and AM radio, I think you'd find that there'll be

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Speaker 1: an article that it's a brilliant Oh thanks, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're one of the most intelligent minds in radio. Oh well,

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Speaker 1: it's nice to say that, but that was that was

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Speaker 1: really informative to me as I interviewed all of these

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Speaker 1: programmers around the country and them trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: exactly what the future of the band is. So digitization, yes, maybe, UM,

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Speaker 1: but I think there's even a greater chance that you're

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Speaker 1: going to see, um a movement, a migration to the

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Speaker 1: FM um FM, and then more satellite radio taking up

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Speaker 1: the slack two. So but there's room for everybody. I

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Speaker 1: you know, I got to die one of these days

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Speaker 1: and uh or or get shot or something, so you

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Speaker 1: know I would I would be out there practicing just

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Speaker 1: in case they call you off the bench. It could happen.

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Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate that. That's nice of you. UM. But

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Speaker 1: that's you know, back to that original point though, about

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Speaker 1: one hit wonders. That is something I always love. I

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Speaker 1: love to look up bands that I think of as

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Speaker 1: one hit wonders and then then I find that they

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Speaker 1: had like a either a top ten hit before their

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Speaker 1: number one or some of their follow up hit, their

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Speaker 1: sophomore song or album was actually pretty good. Um. So

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Speaker 1: there's some interesting examples out there. Always look it up

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Speaker 1: before you assume they just had one hit, and of

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Speaker 1: course a lot of bands had you know, a billion

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Speaker 1: hits in other countries and only one here. So where

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Speaker 1: do you? Where do you count those people? I don't know?

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