1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: You think you know somebody based on a SoundBite or 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: what you see with them in a helmet or a 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: basketball uniform. And they've all had moments of terror, They've 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: all been completely insecure. They've had moments where they were tested. 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: They've had sure great moments of triumph, but terrible defeats. 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: They all come from parents. Some are parents that are around, 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: some are not. Some are a rough dad, a nice dad, 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: or whatever. And then you start building a catalog of 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: these people who are the best of the best, and 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: you go, my god, they're just like everybody else. Hi. 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Buck and I've done twenty four World Series. 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: I've done six Super Bowls, I've done five US Opens, 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: I've done like one All Star Games. But you know 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: what I've never done until right now, Off the Beat. 15 00:00:53,479 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: This is going to be special. Hello everybody, and welcome 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: back to Off the Beat. I am well one, I'm 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: excited and too. I'm your host. That makes me your 18 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: excited host, Brian baum Gartner, and I gotta say thank 19 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: you all for being here today because we're switching things 20 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: up a bit with today's guest. We're going even further 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: off the beat if you will, as you probably know 22 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: by now. I am a big sports fan, and yes 23 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: I root for certain teams, and I play a lot 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: of golf. But what I truly love about sports is 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: the camaraderie, the energy, the competition, getting lost in great games. 26 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: And that is why I am so excited for today's guest, 27 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: who might just no sports better than anyone, the legendary 28 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: sportscaster Joe Buck. Now, Joe is going to be the 29 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: first of several sports guests on the podcast. Don't worry, 30 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: this is still an entertainment podcast at the end of 31 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: the day. And by the way, Joe is an entertainer 32 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: because yes he's in sports, and yes he's called some 33 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: of the most iconic games of all time. But don't 34 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: get it twisted. Joe's a TV guy, and he has 35 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: to draw in an audience, and because currently his programming 36 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: happens to be live, he actually gets the biggest audiences 37 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: on television today. And if you've ever heard this man talk, 38 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: you you know exactly what I mean. His voice is 39 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: iconic and he has had an insane career from becoming 40 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: Fox's youngest regular NFL announcer, to hosting his own shows 41 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: to signing on too broadcast now for Monday Night Football 42 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: on ESPN. Plus he's a podcaster too, hosting the Crazy, 43 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: Funny and Interesting Dad the Issues podcast with Oliver Hudson. 44 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: And yes that is actually the title. I won't keep 45 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: you waiting. I can't wait for you to hear this 46 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: man's voice and this man's stories here. He is the 47 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: amazing Joe Buck Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble 48 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: and Squeak on Bubble and Squeaker, cooking it every month, 49 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: left over from the nut before. What's up, Joe, Hi, Brian, 50 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm really good. Yeah. Well, I mean, you 51 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: look professional as you should. You do, you know, I 52 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: don't know about that. I don't know about that, but 53 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here. Thank you for doing the 54 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: thing on ESPN the other day. That was fun. I 55 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: hope you had fun. I had a great time. Michael 56 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: Collins is uh, he's a hood right, He's awesome. Yeah. 57 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: I I had never really been around him much except 58 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: when when he was doing a radio show with Pat Perez, 59 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and Perez was here in St. Louis playing in the 60 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: p g A a few years ago, and they they 61 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: all came over to my house and I ended up 62 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: hanging with him most of the night, and so when 63 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: that whole thing came up, I was like, I gotta 64 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: do it with Michael because he can carry it. I mean, 65 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: I don't have to really do much. That's awesome. Well, 66 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: I want to talk about your new big move and 67 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: some of your your notable accomplishments, but I really want 68 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: to start back your By the way, it seems like 69 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: everyone I've talked to is from Kansas, Missouri. I mean, 70 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what is in the water down there, Joe, 71 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: but like stone Street and Riggle and Keckner all Rudd, Rudd, Zubakis. Yeah, 72 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. It's like you think New York, Chicago, 73 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: comedy scene at Chico and now everyone is is from 74 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: the middle of the country. So I don't know. I 75 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: don't know what that says. I I don't know what 76 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: that says either. I uh. I first met Paul Rudd 77 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: when we were in college. His roommate was my best 78 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: friend from high school. So we all kind of congregated 79 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: at Indiana University, which is where I was. They came 80 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: to visit me and then I returned the favor the 81 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: next year, and so I've known Paul since I was 82 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: guys since I was eighteen, and then prior to that, 83 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: Jon Hamm. Jon Hamm is another one who was dating 84 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: the sister of the previously mentioned best friends. So I've 85 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: known this little group of people. And then it becomes 86 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: six degrees of My friend's name is Preston Clark, but 87 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: it's really six to reaves of Rudd and Ham for 88 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: me getting to know Adam Scott and different guys that 89 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: that they all interacted with when we were in our 90 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: early twenties. So I was the sports guy, they were 91 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: the cool guys, and uh, you know, all I was 92 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: good for was getting them tickets to different events, different events, 93 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: which actually makes you the most popular guy in the 94 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: whole group. Yeah, and for a while and until you know, 95 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: Rudd was doing uh you know, god knows what clueless 96 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: object of my affection and uh, and Ham was mad Men. 97 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: He was Mr Madman. So my cool factor dwindled. Yeah, well, 98 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: I just I just had Mr ham on the podcast, 99 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: so we uh we talked a lot about St. Louis. 100 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: And now you're originally you're originally from Florida, is that right? 101 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Or you were born in Florida? Yeah, I was basically 102 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: born in like uh in uh cardboard box in Florida 103 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: during spring training because my dad was down in St. 104 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: Pete Uh and my mom couldn't travel after spring training 105 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: was over, so end of April I popped into the world. 106 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm a Floridian by birth only. And then 107 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: I came to St. Louis six minutes later and I've 108 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: been here ever since. Right, your family For those of 109 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: you who don't know Jack Buck, the other legendary sportscaster, 110 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: your dad, but you I understand it wasn't necessarily he 111 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: that brought you into your current profession, even though you 112 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: literally followed in his footsteps. Is that right? Yeah? No, definitely, 113 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: I know where you're going with that. My dad, for 114 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: sure is the main reason why I am who I am, 115 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: I do what I do. I fell in love with 116 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: broadcasting and sports because of him, because you know, he 117 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: and I were best friends. He traveled constantly, but always 118 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: took me with him. I think I was in every 119 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: now League city by the time I was twelve. Um, 120 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: I was in Vegas and on my own while he 121 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: rolled crabs all night and I was playing Donkey Kong 122 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: on whatever. Twenty dollar Billy handed me and checking myself 123 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: back into the room and eating room service while he 124 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: was up all night trying to trying to make a 125 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: little money. But my mom was the one that that 126 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: kind of pushed it forward when Fox dropped out of 127 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: the sky and they got the rights to cover the 128 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: NFC and bought those rights, uh for an exorbitant price 129 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: back they took CBS out of the game. And I 130 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: remember at the time, I was hosting a radio show 131 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: in St. Louis, and I was in my early twenties, 132 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: and I thought, this is a travesty. I mean, my god, 133 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna have you know, Joan Rivers and Bart Simpson 134 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: doing the games and uh. And I was, you know, 135 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: just apoplectic about it. And then shortly thereafter, my mom said, well, 136 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: I gave your video tape to Patty Goren, her husband. 137 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: It is running Fox Sports, and they want to fly 138 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: you out for an audition. So that that is something 139 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: my dad would have never done. He would have never 140 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: been the one to push me on anyone anybody, but 141 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: my mom, you know, was that person. Thank god. So 142 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: I got flown out there during the spring of and 143 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: I was twenty four at that time. And I was 144 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: doing a game. I'd never done football in my life, 145 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: and I was practicing for my audition with my dad 146 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: doing color for me while we sat in his living room, 147 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: and then I flew out to l A did the 148 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 1: game off a TV in a studio and they basically 149 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: like slug Worth and Willy Wonka came walking into me 150 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: after the audition was over and said, you better get 151 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: an agent because we're gonna be hiring you. Uh and uh, 152 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: you did well. So it was often running after that. 153 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: So I yeah, without my mom pushing that, I would 154 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: have never even known about the auditions. And my dad, 155 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: chrisec wasn't going to do that, right, you know. I 156 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: read your your mom. She was an actress and a 157 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: singer and an entertainer as well. Do you feel like 158 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: there is any part of your style that is different 159 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: from your dad because of your mom's influence early on? Yeah, 160 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: I think so. I think my mom was actually a 161 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: really good influence on my dad. But my mom was 162 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: my dad's second wife, and by the time my mom 163 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: came into his life, his career, unbeknownst to either one 164 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: of them, was about to take off. Because Harry Carey 165 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: the long you know, everybody now knows him as a 166 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: longtime voice of the Cubs, but prior to that, he 167 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: was the Cardinals announcer. He got fired at the end 168 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: of the sixties. And I was born in sixty nine, 169 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: and that's kind of when my dad ascended to the 170 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: number one spot with the Cardinals. And my mom, you know, 171 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: being somebody that was comfortable walking out on a stage 172 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: and singing and dancing. I mean she auditioned for a 173 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: Burrows back in the day on Broadway. And that's Jim 174 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Burrow's dad for those of you who don't know. And 175 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Jim Burrow is one of the most you know, accomplished 176 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: producers in the history of television. Uh so, yeah, I 177 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: think she was. She was very aware of how to 178 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: entertain a crowd, and I think she she helped my 179 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: dad with a lot of the speaking engagements he did 180 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: and as you guys would say in your business, punching 181 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: up a script or a speech that he would put 182 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: together and make it more fun and more funnier. And 183 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: and so I saw that, and I think I pull 184 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: as much from my mom as I do my dad. 185 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: I I you know, the style is a bit different, 186 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't smoke for sixty years. So I 187 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: don't sound like this. How my dad got me up 188 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: for school in the morning, Get up, buck come on, 189 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 1: get get your ass out of bed. And uh I 190 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't have that, but but I think 191 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: there's some similarities in the style. I try to have 192 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: fun as much as you can in today's world. Um, 193 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: and he was all about that. My dad was was 194 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: kind of an off the cuff, funny, good grounded dude 195 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: that just treated everybody nicely. So I I get I 196 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: get plenty from both, trust me. I was very lucky. Yeah, 197 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: So I I mean, I'm going a little bit out 198 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: of order here, but I've never told you this, you know. 199 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: So I'm a little bit young for al Michael's right, 200 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: And and do you believe in miracles? And like I 201 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: I was, I was alive at that time in nineteen eighty, 202 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:43,479 Speaker 1: but that wasn't for me. The most iconic and heartbreaking 203 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: call that I remember a sportscaster delivering and specifically to 204 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: me into my heart and ripping it out, was your dad, 205 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: Jack buck In. I grew up in Atlanta, and I 206 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: would say today the greatest world series is in the 207 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: history of world series that I've ever seen, or read 208 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: or know about as a huge baseball fan, the Atlanta 209 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: Braves against the Minnesota Twins, and that home run in 210 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: Game six, and your dad's gravelly voice filled with the 211 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: emotion that that gravelly voice could give him saying and 212 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: will see you tomorrow night. And I had it on 213 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: VHS tape because I was as sure the Braves were 214 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: gonna win that game, you know, it was like that 215 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: was that was gonna be my VHS tape and I 216 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: have watched that and and the director whoever, I don't 217 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: know if it was going I don't know who it was. 218 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: But cutting to Charlie lee Brand's face and him walking 219 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: off as stoically as possible, and then halfway to the 220 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: dugout wiping and the silence that your dad gave amazing, 221 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean truly, like even as even though it ripped 222 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: my heart out, I knew that that was like something 223 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: special that I saw. And so cutting way ahead, we're 224 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: skipping way ahead, But Inven you gave a nod to 225 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: your dad in in the World Series in Texas and St. 226 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: Louis giving that same call. Um this was planned obviously 227 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: or was this just in the back of the recesses 228 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: of your mind. It was in the back of my 229 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: mind because prior to the game, it was almost twenty 230 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: years from that that night that my dad said it 231 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: and you were crying on your couch and and somebody 232 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: had said, uh, because my dad did that game with 233 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: Tim McCarver. And now I'm sitting next to Tim McCarver 234 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: twenty years later, almost to the day, and somebody said, 235 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, twenty years ago, was that uh, that Kirby 236 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Pucket home run that that forced game seven? And here 237 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: we are about to start Game six. And I was like, oh, yeah, okay, 238 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: and you know, getting ready and whatever. So I think 239 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: that landed the seed. But you don't know what's That's 240 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: the beauty and the fun of what I do is 241 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: you don't know what's coming down the street at you 242 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: at any time, and inning starts or they kick off 243 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, so you're ready for really anything 244 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: that comes your way. And that game was so I mean, 245 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: I know, this is way down into the weeds. But 246 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals were down three games to two, They were 247 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: down in the game, they were down to the last 248 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: strike twice. They tied it twice, and then in the 249 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: eleventh inning. David Freeze, who's a kid from St. Louis, 250 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: hits the home run to center to force Game seven. 251 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: And then that popped out of the back of my mind, 252 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: out of my mouth, which is we'll see you tomorrow night, 253 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: which was I don't know. On one hand, it was 254 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: appropriate because there was gonna be a Game seven the 255 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: next night. On the other hand, maybe itself serving. I 256 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: think I was thinking to him, who would have been 257 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: sitting one booth over to me watching the Cardinals, the 258 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: team he loved, and this kid, David Freeze become the 259 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: hero uh to force that Game seven. And so you know, 260 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: I I retired being a Jackbuck cover band after that night. 261 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: I was like, that's it. I've I've done some other things, 262 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: I've said some things that he said in the past. 263 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: It's time for me to branch out into my own, uh, 264 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: into my own territory. So I'm not playing I'm not 265 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: playing his hits. I'm gonna start making my own uh 266 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: in these moments. But for for that one time, yeah, 267 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: And and it was at the end of a crazy year, 268 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Brian I. I I had been through a vocal cord paralysis. 269 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: I got hair plugs at the beginning, and I talked 270 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: about all this in my book, which I'm not promoting 271 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: because you can't find it anywhere. Uh. I got hair plugs, 272 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: got intubated. The tube that they put down my throat 273 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: sat on the nerve that fired my left vocal cord, 274 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: and the whole year I sounded like this. I had 275 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: one one vocal cord that was working in one that 276 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: was laying there paralyzed. And that was about the time 277 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: my voice started to kind of come back. And that 278 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: World series, each game it got a little bit better. 279 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: And so by the time Game six rolled around, you 280 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: know I've been through. I was going through a divorce, 281 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: I was on antidepressants. I thought my career was over 282 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: because I wasn't gonna be able to broadcast or even 283 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: order a coffee and allowed Starbucks, and and that that 284 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: moment happened, and it forced a Game seven. Uh. It 285 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: allowed me to win an Emmy that year in the 286 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: worst year, not of my career, in the worst year 287 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: of anybody's career. I sounded like I was dying every 288 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: time I was doing a game. But yeah, that that 289 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: was a year that was a complete Uh. I don't 290 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: know what we can or can't say on this, but 291 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: it was a ship show, so you can you can 292 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: block that out, but I it was. It was crazy. 293 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: So I'm proud of that moment at the end of 294 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: a really hard year. Yeah, you know, it's I think 295 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: this is fun. Maybe it's maybe it's just fun for me, 296 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: but I'm you know, sitting here talking to you and 297 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: thinking about you and and your experience and you being 298 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: there in the booth that night watching that game. And 299 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, we have a number of people who 300 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: worked on the Office who are from St. Louis and 301 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: we're a big Cardinals fans. Phillis Smith, Jenna Fisher. I 302 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: think I'm forgetting somebody right now. And so we were 303 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: shooting at that moment, my least favorite episode to shoot 304 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: in the history of the Office. We were in a 305 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: pool for twelve to fourteen hours a day, and I 306 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: was I was explained after complaining after like six hours 307 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: that you could get hypothermia if you're in just a 308 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: regular temperature pool for that many hours. So they had 309 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: heated it to like degrees. Being in a pool for 310 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: nine degrees is not that much fun for like fifteen minutes, 311 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: and it was like all day long, and we're shooting late, 312 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: we're running late. Everybody's wed and angry. But we had 313 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: the radio, so I didn't hear your call. But we 314 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: are following that game and crazy, and we'd be on 315 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: set and here people yelling in the background, and we 316 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: were fully following that game. Now, as someone not from St. Louis, 317 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: I was rooting for Texas, but I just transparently I 318 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: was not rooting for St. Louis. But so there was 319 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: some back and forth and I don't know, maybe some 320 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: money changed hands at the end of that night. I 321 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: don't remember exactly, but it was It's funny just to 322 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: hear that. And of course I had, you know, as 323 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: a big sports fan and baseball fan, I had taken 324 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: it at home and then heard that call, and then 325 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: it brought back everything from the nineties, and well, it's 326 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: funny you're making me think of Uh. First of all, 327 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: Ellie Kemper is the Ellie Kemper. Thank you, Yes, there 328 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: you go. And so I was with a friend. I 329 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: mean not to name drop, but I why not. I 330 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: haven't stopped yet. Uh, Billy Bob Thornton, I was. I 331 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: was with him at the filming of a movie did 332 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: with a friend of mine another friend of mine as 333 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: a reason why I was there. Jason Patrick's called the 334 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: Alamo and uh, he's inside. They're like Billy Bob or 335 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: whatever his character's name was, I don't know who he played. 336 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: We need down the top of the walk here at 337 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: the album and he's like, okay, but he's talking to 338 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: me inside because you can't see they're shooting all from 339 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: the outside, and he's talking to me about the Cardinals bullpen. 340 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: He's a die hard Cardinals fan, and he's like, I mean, god, 341 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: we need a left hander. The Cardinals do not have 342 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: a left hander. And like hole, He's like, hold on 343 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: a second. He walks up, walks up and down. They're 344 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: like cut. He walks back down. I mean, if they 345 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: can just get a left hander, they're gonna It's like 346 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: there's like nothing even happened, and they're shooting this multibillion 347 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: dollar movie and all he's caring about is talking about 348 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: the Cardinals bullpen with me on the inside of the Alumo. 349 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: It's funny how life goes on in and around these 350 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: productions and and all people see is you know, post edit, 351 00:20:48,480 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: when when everything's all tightened up right, you became the 352 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: youngest person to announce regular NFL games on TV? Did 353 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: that bring any stress for you? Was that? Was that 354 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: a part of it? But it did? I mean you 355 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: had so much experience just being around your dad, as 356 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: you said, yeah, but it did you know, I don't 357 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: know that that would have happened. And the answer to 358 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: your question, if it happened in it would be harrowing. 359 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: It would be, you know, blindfolded on the roller coaster 360 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: in the dark at Disney World. Because it's in today's 361 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: world with social media, especially when you're doing sports and 362 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: everybody is so emotionally invested in it, it's a tough 363 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: go and for anybody to start at that time, I was. 364 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: I just turned twenty five. I'd never done an NFL 365 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: game in my life. I had done a couple of 366 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: practice games. And I'm standing at Soldier Field on opening Day. 367 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: They're playing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and I'm standing next 368 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: to Tim Green, who the year prior was playing and 369 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: and not only had he never broadcast football, he never 370 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: broadcast anything at least that broadcasts some stuff. And he 371 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: and I are looking at each other like, what in 372 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: the hell are we doing here? They're about to kick 373 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: off the Chicago Bears at home and and we're the 374 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: guys standing here about to call this thing. And you 375 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: know this is so if if you were to roll 376 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: the clock forward with social media and all that, I 377 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: don't know that that we would have been able to 378 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: survive what would have been I think baptism by fire. 379 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: I think it's changed that part of my business has 380 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: changed a lot. Like if if somebody's gonna follow you 381 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: on Instagram or Twitter or whatever, generally they're gonna be 382 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: a fan of yours and all your great work that 383 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: you've done for me. I'm sitting there as Switzerland, and 384 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: so when people hear me do a baseball game in October, 385 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: they're comparing me to their hometown announcer that all year 386 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: long has been freaking out for when their team hits 387 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: a home run and almost sad on the air when 388 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: the other team hits a home run home run. Well, 389 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: now I show up. The stakes are at their highest, 390 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: and I'm screaming in Yellen for that guy's team, but 391 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: I'm also screaming in Yellen for the other team. And 392 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: all year long, you know, it's just it's weird to 393 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: the to the senses for fans because they're like, why 394 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: is he yelling and screaming for that other team? I 395 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: hate this guy. He hates my team. And so it's 396 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: it's a long winded way of saying on Twitter, if 397 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: if I want to go there, I have to bring 398 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: a snorkel to go in there and wade through all 399 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: that stuff. And and for you know, the twenty five 400 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: year old may Thank god social media wasn't around. I 401 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: was established for the most part by the time social 402 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: media popped up, and I was a little bit more 403 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: mature and more equipped to handle all that stuff. So 404 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: was I scared, yes, But was it like today's world. No. 405 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: So I figured I would get through the game and 406 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: and go from there. And that's kind of how it went, right. 407 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: I want to talk about football a little bit more. 408 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: But you also start working with Tim McCarver, as you 409 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: mentioned before, who worked with your dad to call Major 410 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: League Baseball as well. Now your father and Tim, as 411 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: I understand how a tumultuous relationship you start working with him. 412 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: How how is your relationship working with Tim? It was 413 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: a ten out of ten and I'm I'm proud of 414 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: of a lot of things. That first year of doing 415 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: the World Series at seven and being at Yankee Stadium 416 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: and sorry, they beat the Braves that year and my 417 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: one of my closest friends now John Smaltz. Sorry to 418 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: rub that in, but they did. That's history. I had 419 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. Brian. I'm sorry, um, but 420 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: I so I I get through that year and at 421 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: the end of this World series in the Bronx, I'm 422 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: staring into the camera. Tim was off to the side. 423 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: It was a single shot and I'm recapping the World 424 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: Series and all that, and it was such a big exhale. 425 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: I was literally picturing my dad in the lens of 426 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: the camera like I was talking to him because I 427 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: was kind of and I don't want to say scared, 428 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: but but the nerves were jumping around pretty good. And 429 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: at the beginning of that year, as you said, my 430 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: dad and Tim, when my dad and Tim were paired 431 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: together in my dad, they pushed him up to the 432 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: number one team. He was initially hired to be on 433 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: the number two team with Jim Cott, but Brent Musburger 434 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: got fired and so they pushed my dad up to 435 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: work with Tim. And Tim at that time was he 436 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: was the king. I mean, he ended up hosting Olympics 437 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: and stuff, so he was the eighth pound gorilla and 438 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: my dad wasn't used to that and really wasn't a 439 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: TV guy, so it was it was hard on my dad, 440 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: and it was hard consequently on his family like me 441 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: and my mom and my sister, and we were all 442 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: kind of freaking out with the criticism he was getting 443 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: or whatever. And a couple of times Tim hung my 444 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: dad out to dry with a comment that he made 445 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: and I was not happy about it. And when they 446 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: paired us together, the happiest person in the world when 447 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: my dad found out that Tim and I were gonna 448 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: be working together was my dad, And the second happiest 449 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: was me because my dad knew that whatever was going 450 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: to happen on the field, I'd be covered by a 451 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: guy sitting next to me that had seen and done 452 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: at all. It wasn't gonna be some young guy that 453 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: had never broadcast or whatever. He knew I was with 454 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: a veteran and they ended on good terms. I think 455 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: the hard part was they they just didn't see eye 456 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: to eye on what the role of the play by 457 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: play guy was and the role of the analysts. So 458 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: when that season began, I brought him into a room 459 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: and I we were at a dinner at Fox, and 460 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: I said, can I just talk to you for a minute. 461 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: And I was twenty, I was a kid, and he 462 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: was I don't know what he was then fifty something, 463 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: and and I said, look, you know how I feel 464 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: about my dad. You know we're very close. I know 465 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: you and he did not have a great time broadcasting 466 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: for those two years together. I'm I'm hopeful that we 467 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: can just hit the reset button and start fresh. Like I, 468 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: I need to build a relationship with you. And the 469 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: only way this is gonna work is if you and 470 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: I are good together. And he said, I really appreciate you. 471 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: Saying that gave me a hug. Off. We went and 472 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: and and we were together for eighteen years and did 473 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: I guess sixteen World Series together. We never had one argument, 474 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: and I I just I love the man. So it 475 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: started rough, but it ended great. That's awesome. Joe lead 476 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: play by play announcer, taking over for Pat Summer all 477 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand two through also twenty three World Series, 478 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: twenty one All Star games for Fox Baseball or Football Baseball. 479 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: Game seven there's nothing like a Game seven. But the 480 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: game needs some tweaking, and I'm not going to be 481 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: the guy that gets out of it because I'm not 482 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: doing baseball this year for the first time since I 483 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: was eighteen, and I'm not going to be critical of 484 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: it other than to say I think all parties know 485 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 1: that they need to get back to some more action. 486 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: Once a gatting starts. It's not the overall time of game. 487 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: It's a lack of action because these guys are actually 488 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: really good, and the pitching is can be so dominant, 489 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: and all they're worried about his home runs and launching 490 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: the ball and blah blah blah. But I think a 491 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: game seven, there's just nothing like it. You know, when 492 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: you consider these guys go to spring training pictures and 493 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 1: catchers in mid February, and now here you are at 494 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: the end of October, sometimes the beginning of November. They've 495 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: been going at it that long and now it's you know, 496 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: this team against that team. It's that guy on the 497 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: mound against that guy at the plate with a bat 498 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: and made the better team win. It's just it's awesome 499 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: and and it's it's exciting, and I don't have to 500 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: do much when I'm sitting there. It's like the game 501 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: kind of carries itself and you're there to accent it. 502 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: But football is so big and and these games, the 503 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: ratings are so crazy compared to everything else that's on 504 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: TV that when you do a Super Bowl and you're 505 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: opening your mouth and thinking of something to say and 506 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: words are coming out and it's going on the televisions 507 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: of a hundred and twelve million people, that that's stunning. 508 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: And and it's one of those like you know, the 509 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: server puts a plate down and says, the plate's really hot, 510 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: don't touch it, Like the first thing I do is 511 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: touch it. Or if you're on a high ladder, don't 512 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: look down. You look down. It's like, hey, don't think 513 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: about a hundred and twelve million people being on the 514 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: other side of that camera. And then you start thinking 515 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: about a hundred and twelve million people being on the 516 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: other side of that camera. So it's just it's it's 517 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: a different world. But for my sensibilities and what I 518 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: like to talk about and talk about strategy, a baseball 519 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: game seven is just the best thing on the planet. 520 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself an entertainer? Um? Yeah, maybe not 521 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: compared to you. Um, But I think the game has 522 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: changed like the job has changed. If you go back 523 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: and listen to the broadcasts from people that are considered 524 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: the all time grades, and they are, I mean, they 525 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: were pioneers. But it's like, you know, so hanging in 526 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: the groundball to short short stop, picks it up, throws 527 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: the first he got them two out like that. That 528 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: doesn't fly today. Like you you have to be up 529 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: on you know, what's going on in the world. You 530 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: have to. You have to, you know, the job of 531 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: a television play by play guys, you're bringing a replay in, 532 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about a graphic, you're explaining spin rate, whatever 533 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: it is that and and through all that you have 534 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: to entertain some and you have to have some moments 535 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: of levity. So yeah, I think it's more than just 536 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: cut and dried. I'm a stiff baseball announcer or football announcer. 537 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that works anymore. And you know, so 538 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: you try to find that balance, try not to overdo, 539 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, being entertaining, But I think you have to 540 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: sprinkle that in. Well, it's interesting, you know, being a 541 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: part of network television for so long, and I mean 542 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: what you say is obviously exactly true. I mean the 543 00:31:54,400 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: biggest entertainment programs, The biggest numbers are for football. Now 544 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's not scripted television anymore, because that element 545 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: of the live means if you could watch it what 546 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: it's happening, that's what you want to watch it. Because 547 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 1: it's really hard now, as you say, with your phone 548 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: and notifications and you know, the days of like not 549 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: being able to find out what happens until it's over 550 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: if you're a big fan becomes almost impossible. But yeah, 551 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean I think very much. So you're I mean, 552 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: you are entertaining, but also you truly are the conduit 553 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: with which we all who watch sports watch. The most 554 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: popular show that people consume live. Yeah, and and it's 555 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't know if the TiVo 556 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: is a thing anymore. It's it's recording proof. As you said, 557 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's ever in the history of time said, hey, 558 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: don't tell me who wins the Super Bowl. I'm gonna 559 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: watch it next week. Right, you can't do it, So 560 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: you know that that's that's what leads to, uh, these 561 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: big numbers. If if people care, and football is just 562 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: so different because of fantasy football and because of office 563 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: pools and as of whatever it is. It's just easier 564 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: to wrap your head around now a seventeen game season 565 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: as opposed to a hundred and sixty two you know, 566 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: the I I tip my cap to all fantasy baseball 567 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: players because that's like a job, you know, every day 568 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: of you know, reading who's heard and who may or 569 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: may not be in the lineup, And I mean it's 570 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: just overwhelming. So I yeah, it's different than anything else 571 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: that's out there. It can bring extreme joy, it can 572 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: bring extreme heartache. I think most of the time when 573 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: Hollywood tries to recreate it, certainly in film, it falls 574 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: a little short for whatever reason. And then there are 575 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: things that happen in these games that if you wrote it, 576 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: they'd throw out because it would be unbelievable and people 577 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: would say, oh, that will never happen. But stuff does 578 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: happen that that you can never imagine when the day starts. 579 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: So I take all that, you know, I I come 580 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: from kind of the old world being around. My dad 581 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: adds the leg as a kid hanging onto it when 582 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: we're walking out of the stadium every night, to what 583 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: we're doing in calling the game has not changed, but 584 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: all of the other stuff has changed from from the 585 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: social media and the outside stuff to the inside stuff 586 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: with how crazy these replays are and cameras and pylons 587 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: and microphones in the outfield wall and on the second 588 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: base bag, and you know, you're trying to make it 589 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: an immersive, live experience and that that carries with it 590 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: a lot of risk and and you know, a lot 591 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: of intensity from the chair I sit in. Yeah, you know, 592 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: you said a moment ago. It brings joy, it brings heartache, 593 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: it brings But that to me is why I love 594 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: sports and why I think it is to a large degree, 595 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: pure entertainment, because it brings something. It's it's going to 596 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: elicit an emotion into anyone who you know, who cares 597 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: about it. That's what I love about sports. And your 598 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: voice has become synonymous with some of the biggest moments 599 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: that I have I've witnessed in sports. Uh favorite favorite 600 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: baseball call or something else? Yeah, I I yeah, I 601 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: think so, you know, not just because we talked about 602 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: it and went through it, but I think because of 603 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: what it the game that had ended that game itself, 604 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: and I went down and talked to Tony LaRussa, the 605 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals manager, right after and I was like, oh my god, 606 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: Tony that and he was he was a great friend 607 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: of the family, and so that was crazy that. I 608 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: mean that that's unbelievable and typical. Tony's like, well, if 609 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: we don't win tomorrow doesn't mean you know, Jack and Tony, 610 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: can you can you enjoy something for one second? Every 611 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: time I'd walk into his office before the game, I'm like, hey, Tony, 612 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: what's up are you doing? I'll let you know at 613 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: ten o'clock. Like I really, I'm not really asking how 614 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: you're doing. It's just a way of saying hello. I mean, 615 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: that's just how intense he was. But I you know, 616 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: there's been so many great games between the Yankees and 617 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: the Red Sox that I got to do, um the 618 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: oh four World Series. You know, when when you get 619 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: to be the one to call the Boston Red Sox 620 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: being World champions for the first time at eighty six years, 621 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: when you get to call the Chicago Cubs being the 622 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: world champions for the first time in a hundred and 623 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: eight years, you know, you're sitting at Wrigley Field. There 624 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: hadn't even been a World Series in that stadium since nine, 625 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: and they hadn't one since before the Titanic sunk, you know, 626 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: let alone World War One and World War two and 627 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: you know all that other stuff. So baseball has always 628 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: been kind of you know, I'm not going to go 629 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: into a field of dreams monologue, but but it has 630 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: kind of mirrored society and it's always it's always been there, 631 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: and you can mark where you were in your life 632 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: depending on who won the World Series that year. That 633 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: that's kind of how I go about my life. So 634 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: I you know, they're they're all so different it's hard 635 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: to pick one. But I think as far as a game, 636 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: that Game six ofven was just perserk. It was crazy. 637 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: And two thousand one is another year that gets overlooked 638 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: for baseball because of everything that was going on in 639 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: the country after nine eleven. But there we are in 640 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: the beginning of October and Mariano Rivera like for one 641 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: of only two times I think in the postseason, blew 642 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: a save chance in Game seven of the World Series, 643 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: and the Arizona Diamondbacks won the World Series um in 644 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: one of the great series of all times. So I 645 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: you know, you can go year by year by year, 646 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: and it's just it's it's fun to do and it's 647 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: also exhausting because they're also darned good. Your favorite football 648 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: call for me is is easy. The Packers beating the 649 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: Steelers in even end of the season. I mean, I 650 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: think I know what you're gonna say, but football the 651 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: greatest game you ever called. Well, I mean, you know, 652 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: not to just piggyback off what you said, but when 653 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: you can call the green Bay Packers the world champs 654 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: and the Lombardi Trophy is going to Green Bay, that's 655 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: pretty good. But uh, I don't know. I mean, I 656 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: think the Stefon Diggs call was that moment when he 657 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: had a walk off touchdown. Rarely do you get a 658 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: walk off moment in football that doesn't involve a kicker. 659 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 1: Nothing against him, But when Stefon Diggs makes the catch 660 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: on the sideline against the Saints, a game that went 661 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: back and forth, and then you just expect out of 662 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: out of almost uh kind of a muscle trigger memory 663 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: kind of thing that if he makes a catch, he's 664 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: got to hop out of bounds so they have a 665 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: chance to win the game with a field goal, and 666 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: he spins around and nobody's there and he just takes 667 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: it into the end zone for a touchdown and the 668 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: place felt like it was going to collapse. It was 669 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: so crazy. So, uh, that's one that just stands out 670 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: to me. But you know, I don't know, what, what 671 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: did you think I was gonna say? Well, No, I 672 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: know you've talked a lot about the Patriots undefeated season 673 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: and the helmet catch and that game against the Giants 674 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: with them coming back to win. Yeah, that's one where 675 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: I get criticized for the for the helmet catch, and 676 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: I just going back to what we talked about earlier. 677 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: When you know a hundred and twelve million people are 678 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: on the other end, you have to make sure that 679 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: the catch has made before you're standing on your head. 680 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: And I didn't really know that the catch was made 681 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: until we had a second to digest it. And then 682 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: if you go back and you start screaming and yell, 683 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: and you kind of feel like you're making it about 684 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: you instead of the moment that David Tyree catch. But 685 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: but that was a great game. I mean, when you're 686 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 1: you know, that was the second Super Bowl that that 687 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: I had done, and so I was still pretty out 688 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: of my head, nervous and New York. You know, anything 689 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: involving New York just takes on a bigger feel, and 690 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: it's against the Patriots, who are going for a perfect season. 691 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: The games back and forth, and the Giants take the 692 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: lead on a Plexico Burris touchdown, and now it's Brady 693 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: and you know they're they're trying to become the second 694 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: team to go undefeated in a season and win it all. 695 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: Uh man, it was one of those where I felt 696 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: my heart beating. I almost could look down and see 697 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: my shirt moving, just not because I was nervous, but 698 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: because it was just so intense and your your concentration 699 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: goes to a different level. Like I'm not a drug guy, 700 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: but I I don't know what drug that would be, 701 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: but I was just so laser focused on not screwing 702 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: it up that it I was like almost beside myself. 703 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, that that was an incredible, incredible game. Yeah. 704 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: Uh well, I know, you know I'm I'm a Packers fan, 705 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: and I will just mention this last one. I just 706 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 1: had a conversation with Randall Cobb and we talked about 707 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, truly, one of them just like 708 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: blew my mind sports moments that I've seen ever was 709 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: that catch about a fifty yard catch against Chicago in 710 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: Soldier Field for Green Bay to go to the playoffs 711 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: that year. You called that. I mean that was just personally, 712 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: that was that was awesome, crazy game. It's funny because 713 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, for whatever reason, it's out there Packer fans like, 714 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 1: why do you hate the Packers and everybody else, every 715 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: other fan is like if Buck and Aikman don't shut 716 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: up about how great Aaron Rodgers and before him, Brett Farvar. 717 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: I mean that was that was Frank Caliendo's stick with 718 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: Madden talking. You know, Bret far Bred far Bret far 719 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: Like everything that Bret Farve does is magical and uh 720 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: and the same. You know, we carried that forward from 721 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: Brett Farve to Aaron Rodgers. I just if I could 722 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 1: pick somebody to watch every game broadcast or not just watch, 723 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: it would be Aaron Rodgers. And and just because of 724 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: the way he plays the game and his kind of 725 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: higher level thinking, catching defenses with too many men and 726 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,439 Speaker 1: quick snap counts and you know, stuff around the line 727 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and then the you know, if you need 728 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: a hail Mary, he's your guy too. So you know that, Yeah, 729 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: we're we're we're huge fans of of Aaron Rodgers and 730 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: everybody in Green Bay's like, good, you hate the Packer 731 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I just I don't see how that's possible. Like, 732 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 1: go back to that Randall cob call he just talked 733 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: about and tell me that you know somehow and and 734 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: deepen my soul. I hate the Packers. That was unreal. 735 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: I They've provided us with more great moments on TV 736 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: than really any team we've covered. Yeah. I was gonna 737 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: ask you that question because you and I have talked 738 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: about that a little bit in the path. What fan 739 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: base do you think? How do I say this? You 740 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: can say, hey, okay, all right, I'll say it like that, 741 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 1: what fan base hates you the most because they think 742 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: you don't like them? Who would it be there's a 743 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,919 Speaker 1: tie at the top, or it could be a team 744 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 1: that because you're they're convinced that you love somebody else 745 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: more or whatever. Well that's Chicago because I'm from St. Louis, 746 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: so you know, doing the Cubs in the World Series 747 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: to a large portion of their fan base Like, oh, 748 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: of course the St. Louis guy whose dad's pictures on 749 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 1: the outfield wall in St. Louis is doing this and 750 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: we know he hates the Cubs, and I'm like, this 751 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: was the greatest highlight of my life. It's a hundred 752 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 1: and eight years Are you kidding me? But uh, that's 753 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: one thing. The other side of it is, it doesn't 754 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 1: matter who If I show up, you know, Boston, they'll 755 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: they'll give you trouble. New York definitely. I did a 756 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: thing on Funnier Die about that, which I'm really proud 757 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: of about. You know, different people around the city, the 758 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: people you would never expect to scream at me about 759 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: why why do you hate the Yankees? Why do you 760 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: hate the Giants? Why do you hate them? Ments? Uh? 761 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: But the one fan base that seems a little more 762 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: biting than the others is San Francisco. For whatever reason, 763 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: San Francisco fans, I'll never forget doing a Giants World 764 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: Series game. And the game's over and I think they 765 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: had one, and I'm packing all my stuff up in 766 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 1: the booth of stadiums empty. I think it was a blowout. 767 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: Wind stadiums empty, and I hear this little kid yelling 768 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: Mr Buck, Mr Buck, And I'm like packing stuff, and 769 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm hold on one second, I'm getting stuff, Mr Buck, 770 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: And hold on one second And I'm packing stuff into 771 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: my backpack and I stand up and I looked down 772 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: and it's a father and son and they both give 773 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: me the finger. And I was like, man, that that 774 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: was special, and uh, I'd love to take a picture 775 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: of this and show this and show and tell at 776 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: your school. But yeah, that was That was the next level. One. 777 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: I got chased into a bar in Boston, the Beantown 778 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 1: Pub one time when the Yankees were playing the Mets. 779 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: I got chased into the hotel with two guys coming 780 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: out of the bean Town Pub. But for the most part, 781 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: people will say something and then they come up and 782 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: pat you on the back and buy a drink. You know, 783 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 1: it's it's never really personal. It's just kind of a thing. 784 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: So you just you just have to embrace it. Almost yeah, 785 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: for what it's worth. You know, people talk about Philly 786 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 1: and they talk about Boston, and I'm not trying to 787 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: antagonize those fan bases to behave worse than they are. 788 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,720 Speaker 1: I've had the opportunity to go there. This specifically is football. 789 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: I've never been more scared then I was at a 790 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: game at Old Candlestick arc Never, never, never, I thought 791 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm not getting out of this place alive. These people 792 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: are insane, I know, and they're definitely if you're not 793 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: one of them, you're dead to them, not literally, but 794 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: they don't have any time for you. And now if 795 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: you're not one of them and you're calling their games 796 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: on television, good luck anything different for you from your 797 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: time doing other shows besides calling the game. You know, 798 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: you also did Joe Buck Live for a while, the 799 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 1: Already Lang show that was That was the Already Lang 800 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 1: episode of Joe Buck Live HBO, which to some people 801 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 1: will never live down, even though Artie and I became 802 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: friends the next day and I wrote the foreword to 803 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: his book. But yeah, I think you bring a little 804 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: more calm to the broadcast for whatever reason, when you 805 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 1: do interview shows or you know, I've been on brock Meyer, 806 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: I've been on Stern a couple of times, and I 807 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 1: think that it gives an opportunity for people to see 808 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: the other side of you. And that's really why I 809 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: do any of that stuff. It's people have an impression 810 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: of who they think you are based on calling ball strikes, 811 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: home runs, touchdowns, whatever, and that's the smallest fraction of 812 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: who I am. I feel like I've got a decent 813 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: sense of humor. I feel like I'm a I'm a 814 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: good dad on the dad's scale. I feel like I've 815 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: I've done well with my four kids so far. I 816 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: haven't raised an ax murderer to my knowledge, uh, And 817 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I've I've got a lot more sides 818 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: than what I get to show during the course of 819 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: a baseball, football game, golf, whatever it is. So that's 820 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: why I do that stuff, and it gives me a 821 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: little extra, you know something when I walk back into 822 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 1: the play by play booth to to call the next game. 823 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it really helps me well and 824 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: for what it's worth in a large degree, that's why 825 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm doing this too. I mean I have I have 826 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: very much been defined as one very specific type of 827 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: person through my work as well, but more for me 828 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: doing this, you know, especially with sports and guys like you, 829 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, I feel that it truly is one of 830 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 1: the great blessings of my life. And what I ended 831 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: up doing in my life is the ability to meet 832 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: guys like you at the American Century Championship there in 833 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: Lake Tahoe and Michael Jordan's event or Derek Jeter's event, 834 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 1: or you know, various golf events around the world because 835 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: I am such a huge sports fan and it's so 836 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,720 Speaker 1: much fun for me to hear the stories and also 837 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: get to know guys like you who are exactly very 838 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: different than just calling balls and strikes. Yeah, And I 839 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 1: think what it does is it it gets you behind 840 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: the rope to learn the big secret that they're just people. 841 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 1: They're they're people who are incredibly gifted, but who work 842 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 1: extremely hard at their craft, whether it's throwing a football, 843 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: catching one, shooting a hockey puck, shooting a basketball, whatever 844 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: it is, that is no different than me trying to 845 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,399 Speaker 1: show you know, I'm not I don't go to bed 846 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: like calling play by play of me putting my toothpaste 847 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 1: on my toothbrush and my wife doing the same. And 848 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: you're not, you know, walking around the house reciting lines 849 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: from the office. You've got you know, other stuff that 850 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: makes you tick and go and get you excited. And 851 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: the point is you think know somebody based on a 852 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: SoundBite or what you see with them in a helmet 853 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: or you know, a basketball uniform, whatever it is. And 854 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,959 Speaker 1: and they've all had moments of terror, They've all been 855 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: completely insecure, They've had moments where they were tested. They've 856 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: had sure great moments of triumph, but terrible defeats. They 857 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: all come from parents. Some are parents that are around, 858 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 1: some are not. Some are a rough dad, a nice dad, 859 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 1: or whatever. And then you start building a catalog of 860 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: these people who are the best of the best, and 861 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 1: you go, my god, they're just like everybody else. When 862 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: I talked to Michael Phelps on that show and we 863 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: showed the picture of him on the Sports Illustrated cover 864 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: with twenty plus metals around his neck, I said, what 865 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: what do you think of when you see that picture? 866 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: And he said, I see a guy with big ears 867 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: and an awkward smile who got picked on on the playground. 868 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: And I said, well, for the rest of the world, 869 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: all we see are the medals. And you know, it 870 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: was the same thing like when he went to rehab 871 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: and what that was like and being just shaken, and 872 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: you just realized that everybody's trying their best, and everybody's 873 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: trying to get through the world. And yes, they have 874 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: these moments on the court, the ice, whatever, but god, 875 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: they they're also flawed human beings, just like you and me. 876 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 1: That's right. Do you have a podcast with my good 877 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 1: friend as well Oliver Hudson daddy issues. You're talking about 878 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: family on the podcast. How is that for you? It's 879 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: great if I could ever get Oliver to return text 880 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: and actually set up time when we're gonna record our 881 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,439 Speaker 1: stupid thing. We've had great guests. I mean, I've had 882 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: Eddie Vetter and Mark Cuban, and I mean it's a 883 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:48,280 Speaker 1: long list of people that mainly I know for some reason, 884 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody that could be Goldie hans Son 885 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: and Kurt Russell's steps on and Kate Hudson's brother and 886 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 1: Whyatt Russell's brother, and he knows nobody. Nobody will return 887 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: his call, and that's why he's got daddy issues. His dad, 888 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: Bill Hudson, walked out of the family when he was 889 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: around ten years old and he's been going to therapy 890 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: ever since. Now he's a dad, and he's got a 891 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: boy that's about to start high school, and he's got 892 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: two younger kids, and uh, you know, I've got girls 893 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: that are in their mid twenties, ones acting, one just 894 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: finished film school at usc and then I've got four 895 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 1: year old twin boys. So we've got kids up and 896 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 1: down the line. And it's more about being you know, Uh, 897 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 1: he's forty five. I'm fifty three, married in my case, divorced, remarried, 898 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: more kids, you know, all the stuff he deals with, 899 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,439 Speaker 1: a feeling like the black sheep of the family. Uh. 900 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 1: And yet I'm close with the rest of his siblings 901 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: and his parents, and they all think he's the most talented, 902 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,959 Speaker 1: but he's never tapped into all that. So that's kind 903 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: of the through line of the podcast. And then there's 904 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: just a bunch of junk that that follows. Well. I 905 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,280 Speaker 1: have to tell you, I think this is the greatest 906 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 1: compliment anyone could give you, because it's it's what I observe, 907 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:11,319 Speaker 1: and it's what I've heard from my own bizarrely unique 908 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 1: spot in the locker room being the golf course. I 909 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: cannot imagine athletes could speak any higher of you than 910 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: they do. You have their respect, and that is not 911 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: universally true, by the way, without mentioning anybody else's name, 912 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: that people respect the job that you do, the amount 913 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: of work and research you put into it, and how 914 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,399 Speaker 1: respectful you are in calling the games, and for me, 915 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: by the way, you and Troy, I I mean, the 916 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 1: best in the business, best in the business. I appreciate 917 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 1: you saying that that from somebody like you, that that 918 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,359 Speaker 1: means a lot. And I think sometimes everybody is so 919 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: quick to absorb all the negative, and then when somebody 920 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: says something nice, you just kind of gloss over it 921 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: because I'm not I'm not good at compliments. But I 922 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: will tell you this. When my dad dropped me off 923 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: at Triple A my first year, we drove up from 924 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 1: spring training from Florida and he dropped me in Louisville, 925 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: and then he went on to St. Louis On the 926 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: way up, he told me a couple of things. He said, One, 927 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: you've been watching Big league baseball your whole life. Unless 928 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 1: you think, as the play by play guy of these 929 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: minor league guys that you could make that play ten 930 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 1: times out of ten, realize that they're trying their best, 931 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: and don't criticize that way. The game is way harder 932 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: than we all realize, especially when you're sitting up in 933 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: the broadcast booth too. Same deal with the umpires, you know, 934 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: like layoff, it's it's easy to get, you know, our 935 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: pictures not getting anything. They're not getting any called just layoff, 936 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: call the game. Shut up. Three Nobody cares that the 937 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: announcers hot. Nobody cares. If you're in the booth and 938 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: you're cold, Nobody cares. If you're tired, Just call the game. 939 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: And most importantly, if you get hit by a bus 940 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,800 Speaker 1: going into the game, realize that they're still gonna play 941 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: the game. They're not going to stop the game. It's 942 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: still gonna be on the radio and people are still 943 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: gonna listen to it. It doesn't So don't act like 944 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: anybody has ever gone up and down the dial going 945 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: where's the Joe Buck game? No, this is where's the 946 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: Cardinal game? Where's the Packer game, Where's the Cubs game? 947 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: Where's the Braves game? It's not you, So don't act 948 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 1: like they're they're listening for you. So I I think 949 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 1: with regard to the players, hopefully nobody feels like I've 950 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 1: been unfair when when I'm calling games, And hopefully they 951 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 1: know that the person up there that's calling what they 952 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: do for a living, cares to do a good job 953 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: and puts work into it, and and that's that's kind 954 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: of how I go about it. Big move this spring, 955 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: you're moving to ESPN, And as you said, no baseball. Now, okay, 956 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: with no baseball I am. I had told Fox that 957 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: this was gonna be my last year doing it, you know, 958 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 1: after you do. It would have been my twenty five 959 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 1: world series. I feel like that's enough. I I it's 960 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: for those keeping track. It's the most anybody has ever 961 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 1: called played by play I walk Away now tied with 962 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: Tim McCarver foremost ever by anybody. And I like that. 963 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: And none of that stuff really matters to anybody, including me. 964 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,240 Speaker 1: But I think it's just time for a new voice. 965 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: And then for ESPN. I never thought I would work 966 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 1: at ESPN. I it just was like, that's over there. 967 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: I'm at Fox. I've been here since I was in 968 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: my mid twenties. I'm now almost you know, mid fifties. 969 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: I've lived my whole life over here. And then their 970 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: situation with Troy unraveled, Troy ends up at ESPN. I 971 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: was like, well, I mean, I'm only signed one more year. 972 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 1: I love working with Troy. I want to keep working 973 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 1: with Troy. Let's see if we can make this happen. 974 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: And in other layer that nobody you know puts together 975 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 1: is my wife does the Monday Night Countdown interview. So 976 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:12,240 Speaker 1: she does the the Profile personality interview with a player 977 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: in that Monday night game. So now she and I 978 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 1: are going to work on the same nights, and we've 979 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: got these four year old twin boys at home. So 980 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: it was just like everything was lining up, like if 981 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 1: we can make this happen somehow, and ESPN wanted it 982 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 1: to happen. It was only up to Fox to let 983 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: me out of the last year of my deal, that 984 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: this would be a good time to kind of force 985 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: some change. And I think change is good. You know. 986 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 1: I talked to the guy that hired me at Fox 987 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: when I was in my mid twenties, David Hill, who 988 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: built that network. I called him and I let him 989 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: kind of have the final say in my brain because 990 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: I was going back and forth on it, and Fox 991 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 1: offered me an extension, and it wasn't like they were 992 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: sick of me yet. But David Hill said, the ten 993 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: years I've been gone from Fox have been the most 994 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 1: rewarding years of my life. And for you, you've done 995 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: the same thing over and over and over again at 996 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: the same place with the same people. You're gonna be 997 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: nervous before your first Monday night football game. That's good. 998 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna grow. And he said, if if you're asking 999 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: me I think you should leave. And once he said that, 1000 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: then I put the full court press on and now 1001 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: here we are, so I can't wait. I'm I just 1002 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 1: wish I was working. Yeah, that's awesome. Um, thank you, 1003 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,919 Speaker 1: so am I am. I seeing you in a couple 1004 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,680 Speaker 1: of weeks. I will see you, my friend. Hopefully they 1005 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 1: can put us together that first day. That'd be a blast. 1006 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: Are are you there to like hold Aaron Rodgers hand? 1007 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: You probably have your group. Yeah, I'm not going to 1008 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: crash your party. No, that's why I see. That's the 1009 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 1: thing is, that's why I asked if you're an entertainer, 1010 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 1: because then now that you said yes, ish or I 1011 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 1: made you say yes, then that means we can. You know, 1012 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 1: they like the first day. They like to put like 1013 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 1: like people together, you know, like they'll put him with 1014 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and me with entertainers. Maybe maybe me you and 1015 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: Larry the cable guy, something like that. I'm watching that. 1016 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm not although he's gotten better, right, he's a better 1017 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,080 Speaker 1: of golfer now that he has gotten better. Yeah, all right, good, 1018 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,919 Speaker 1: I would like Yeah, thank you, thank you so much. 1019 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 1: Best of luck to you at ESPN. I'll start reaching 1020 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: out to get tickets now once we hit the fall 1021 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: any and we'll do it. Thanks so much, Joe. I'll 1022 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: see in Green Bay all right, Brian, see you, buddy, Joe. 1023 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: What more is there to say? Thank you so much 1024 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 1: for joining me. I appreciate you taking the time. I 1025 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: cannot wait to listen to you on well Monday Night 1026 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 1: football next season. And I'm gonna take some notes next 1027 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,840 Speaker 1: time I listened to your podcast listeners, you should definitely 1028 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 1: do the same. And of course we will see you 1029 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: next week for another episode of the podcast. How far 1030 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: off the Beat will we go? Will we even be 1031 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 1: able to see the beat? I'm gonna see yes, but 1032 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: only time will tell. See you next week. Off the 1033 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Beat is hosted an executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, 1034 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: alongside our executive producer Langley. Our producers are Diego Tapia, 1035 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 1: Liz Hayes, Emily Carr, and Hannah Harris. Our talent producer 1036 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: is Ryan Papa Zachary. Our theme song Bubble and Squeak 1037 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 1: performed by my great friend Creed Bratton, and the episode 1038 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,919 Speaker 1: was mixed by seth Olandski