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So, the one of the game games that 36 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: we talked about in the NFL over the weekend was 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: the Jets and the Bengals, and the Jets proceeded to 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: score close to forty points and put up over five 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 4: hundred yards on the Cincinnati Bengals defense. And I know 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: Pete Prisco let him have it yesterday a little bit, 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 4: and we spent a lot of time talking about the 42 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: Jets side of things and what it meant for Justin 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: Fields and how emotional the week was and Woody Johnson 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 4: being a disaster as an owner and everything that came 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: along with it, and Aaron Glenn's first win, etc. 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: Etc. 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 4: But the other side of that story is the fact 48 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: that again the Cincinnati Bengals defense gave up over five 49 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: hundred yards total offense and close to forty points to 50 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 4: a New York Jets team that had nothing going for 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 4: him offensively for basically the entire year. And there's a 52 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: story that came out. There's a story that came out 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 4: yesterday that apparently the Bengals held a players only meeting. 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: Here you go, only fans, players. 55 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: Only just the defense, right, So just the defense held 56 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 4: a player's only meeting on Monday following that disastrous performance 57 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: against the Jets. So I gotta ask you, what the 58 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: hell are those like? After your defense gets absolutely lit 59 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 4: on fire by the New York Jets and you lose 60 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 4: that game, a game you should have won as close 61 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: to a seven point favorite at home against a bad 62 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: football team and your defense can't get a stop, what 63 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 4: are those players only meetings like on the defensive side 64 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: of the ball for the Bengals? 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it all depends on what the 66 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: leadership ranks are like there, what the personality dynamics are 67 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: within the unit and in the locker room. It can 68 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: be positive, it could be negative, It could be both. 69 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: You know, one doesn't have to be true and the 70 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: other one has to be false for one to be 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: a valid a valid conclusion or assess assessment. But I 72 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: would tend to think, because I've been a part of 73 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: a few players only meetings, I would tend to think 74 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: that it's somebody a leadership deal, a leader of the 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: unit or a couple of them that bring everyone together 76 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: and basically say, look, not on our watch, not based 77 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: upon us. We know what we're facing. We've brought in 78 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback that can get us to a place where 79 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: we can compete without Joe being you know, well the 80 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: first Joe. I just think that you're having a conversation 81 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: about not being the weekly and anything, any concerns, any feelings, 82 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, because you don't know if there's 83 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: any type of internal type of beef going on. You know, 84 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: that's not you know, that's not readily known by the public, 85 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: but they know internally what that feels like or what 86 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: it is that's going on. So they might have needed 87 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: to clear the air of something that was going on 88 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: internally with the unit. It could have been something that 89 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, as far as like so, I just had 90 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: a conversation with one of the kids I mentored, right, 91 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: and he plays in the league, And I've been so 92 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: removed from the league and from football that I almost forgot, 93 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: you know, well not forgot, but it's just I don't 94 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: have the feelings of what the locker room and what 95 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: the facility represents and all that stuff anymore because I've 96 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: been removed from it for so long. Like it's weird 97 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: to think that I took showers with other dudes around me. 98 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: Like I go into a locker room now about it. 99 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: I go into a locker room now when I go 100 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: work out at Penn State, and it mortifies me. The 101 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: way to the showers look like it's like, I'm not 102 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 1: taking a shower here. I'm going to go home, funky 103 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: and take a shower in my hotel room where I 104 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: have my own privacy. Like why do they not have 105 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: stalls for each one of these showers. That's why I 106 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 1: started thinking to myself. But anyways, I digress. The point 107 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 1: I'm getting at is, so the young man that I 108 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: was talking to, he called me with an issue, and 109 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: the issue was his coach was on like he was 110 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: like on BS time, and he went in there. He 111 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: wanted to take the head coach with him to go 112 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: have this conversation with the coach. And this is like 113 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: a he's a player on the team, a contributor. He 114 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: wants to take the head coach in there with him 115 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: because of the way this coach handles the situations like 116 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: real d head right, like just a straight up it 117 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: hid right. Yeah, So the coach doesn't go in with him. 118 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: He goes in there and he records it. He played 119 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: me back the recording of how their interaction went Jonas, 120 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: and you would have had to have heard how this 121 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: man talked to the other person to believe it. And 122 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: I have, like I talk about, I relived the moments 123 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: like with Dale Lindsey and how he used to talk 124 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: like this was how Dale Lindsey and Greg Williams talked 125 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: to players back when I was playing, like and I 126 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: have kind of you forget the feeling you feel like 127 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I can remember, I can recall it happening, but the 128 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: anger that I felt when these grown ass men would 129 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: talk to us this way. You start to get so 130 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: far away from the game, you forget how it felt 131 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: and then it brought it back. This could be a 132 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: situation where you got coaches that don't know how to 133 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: talk to players and connect with players. And sometimes the 134 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: biggest hole, the biggest deficit that you have to make 135 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: up internally, is that you have to overcome a coach 136 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: or you got to overcome relations between coaches. It's generally 137 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: not player to player beef. It's generally not that. Usually 138 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: when you got to have a player's only meeting, it's 139 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: because you guys got to pull yourselves together and overcome 140 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: whatever it is that is plaguing you guys. Now that 141 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean what I'm saying is what it is 142 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: in terms of it's a coach, but it's certainly doesn't 143 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: scream that it isn't. You're trying to overcome what the 144 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: leadership of the coaches, and it could be like a 145 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: position coach. It might not be the coordinator. It could 146 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: be a position. Like you're meeting, you're talking what are 147 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: the concerns. Then you start talking about the concerns, and 148 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: then the leaders take it back to the staff and 149 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: you got to have these conversations. You got to overcome 150 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: sometimes what it is that maybe the main guy. Like 151 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: there's another scenario I could give you ask the question, 152 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: why why would a coach have so much success here 153 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: as a coordinator go to the next place and can 154 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: have the same type of success. Oh, because the coaching 155 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: staff that he was with that he became that type 156 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: of coach with, overcame the deficits that he created as 157 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: a person that was leading the unit. So how do 158 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: you overcome that? If you go to a new staff, 159 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: you get paid all this money to be the coordinator, 160 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: and you realize that you get no that that interaction 161 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: between coach to coach, Like you're the coordinator, but your 162 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: D line coach maintains the relationship with your defensivelignment. So 163 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: even though you're not relatable, that defensive coach for the 164 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: D line is relatable and gets the best out of 165 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,119 Speaker 1: those players. Same for the backers, same for the secondary 166 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: right if those if you don't have somebody to bridge 167 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: the gap between players and coaches, that could generally speaking, 168 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: in a lot of situations, that's probably the reason why 169 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: you have low performing units. And so if you have 170 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: people that really care, you try to call in everybody. 171 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: Like when I was my last year in DC. We 172 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: had the same thing going on. I called a players 173 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: only meeting, and I said, let's get back like, let's 174 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: get over all of the bs, the politics, da, da da, 175 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: Let's go back to being us. And I remember I 176 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: challenged us. I had our equipment manager print out shirts 177 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: called it was something You, Defensive You or something like that, 178 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: basically saying, let's all focus ourselves on the happiest times 179 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: of our lives, which was probably playing in college, and 180 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: let's play like we play when we didn't have money. 181 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Let's be together like we're in college. Like, let's take 182 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: it back to the beginning, and we wore like defensive 183 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: you or it was something. It was something I came 184 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: up with, and we rallied, we rallied, we came together. 185 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: We were actually better after the players players only meeting 186 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: because we snuffed out and sniffed out what the culprit 187 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: was of why we were underperforming, and we challenged ourselves 188 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: to step up to the plate and be more of 189 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: what we could be and control the elements that we 190 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: could control and and overachieve in those moments. So it 191 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: could you know, there could be a lot of positive 192 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: that comes from having a player's only meeting. 193 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 4: You mentioned, Uh, maybe it was one of the coaches 194 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: that kind of sparked the meeting. Al Golden was, you know, 195 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 4: discussing the situation as the defensive coordinator there in Cincinnati 196 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 4: and just said it. Yeah, you know, it's inexcusable they 197 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: held the players only meeting because you know, that's that's 198 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 4: not the brand of football we want to be playing, 199 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. 200 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: Something along those lines. 201 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor took a more a stronger approach, if you will, 202 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: publicly following the blow flowing, following the let down and 203 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 4: melt down from the defense on Sunday in Cincinnati. 204 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just need somebody rise up and make a play. 205 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: Someone just just hold the ford down, you know. And 206 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: I didn't see enough of that today. I think someone 207 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: needs to step up and lead the group. That's what 208 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 2: I'm waiting to see someone step up and lead the 209 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: group and take some accountability over there and get this 210 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: thing going the right way. Unacceptable, humbling for us. Certainly, 211 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: never got a chance to really break that game open, 212 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: like like we felt like we were capable of and 213 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 2: you know, two opportunitys there at the end of the 214 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 2: game to close it down on offense and defensively to 215 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: get guys on the ground and tackling wasn't good enough. 216 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: So we're not going to look at anything and say 217 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 2: anything was good enough after that loss and humbling and 218 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: we're gonna have to really dig deep to bounce back 219 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: next week. 220 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 4: So that probably sparked the you know, let's have a conversation, 221 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 4: let's get together, because it's. 222 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: Just you don't know, I don't know what the relationship 223 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: dynamic is between Zach Taylor and his players. 224 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: That sounded like we've heard a lot from Zach Taylor 225 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 4: over the past couple of years because the Bengals have 226 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 4: there's been a lot of discussion and it's usually a measured, 227 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 4: more calm approach. That sounded like he was. 228 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: That was adversarial. That was advisarial like that. 229 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 4: I don't recall him calling out anybody on that team 230 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 4: the way that he did, and it was pointed directly 231 00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: at the defense. 232 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: It was those guys over there, like you gotta be 233 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: as a coach, there's so many different things, like in 234 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: the moment, you could say something in the moment and 235 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: thought that you were okay saying it, and then you 236 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: go back and you listen to it, you like, maybe 237 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: I should have said it that way, or maybe I 238 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: should have had a different choice of words that I 239 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: used to explain it or describe it. If you lose 240 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: the belief of the army, then you know, how do 241 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: you go in and win the battle war? You can't like, 242 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: you can't lose that game, man, Like that's you can't 243 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: lose your players. 244 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 4: You just beat Pittsburgh. You've got Joe Flacco playing the 245 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: way that he's playing. And I think that tone you 246 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 4: got from Zach Taylor there was like, again, we got 247 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 4: to do that. Like he looks at that and goes, 248 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: if we're trying to stay afloat what's gonna end up happening? 249 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: Is the same thing that happened last year where they 250 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 4: needed all these things to happen in order to get 251 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 4: into the playoffs, and you were depending on a Denver 252 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 4: team that was just going to rest all their starters 253 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: anyways to try and beat the you know, or beat 254 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: the Chiefs or the chief like. However that combination was 255 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: going late in the year, you were depending on Kansas 256 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: City to go in there and win a game against 257 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 4: Denver when Kansas City was just going to rest their starters, 258 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: and then the whole conversation was, well, they were just 259 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: trying to avoid nobody wanted to play Cincinnati. Well, first 260 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: of all, if Cincinnati would have taken care of business 261 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 4: earlier in the year in one games they should have won, 262 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 4: they would have never been in that spot. I think 263 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor knows that, and he's like, here we go again, 264 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: Like that's a game we should have won. And you 265 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: give up five hundred plus yards and almost forty points 266 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: to the Jets. 267 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: There's no denying that that's poor. But then the question becomes, 268 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: do you have the rapport with your team to have 269 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: those comments in the media and to have those conversations 270 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: with your players, because I can imagine he had that 271 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: conversation with the team. So then now what does that 272 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: become in in the public. What is that? How are 273 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: you presenting what took place to the media, because that 274 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: plays a major part. And and so to me, I 275 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: just wonder how positive was it, you know, coming out 276 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: of that game, because you can you can choose to 277 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: approach a letdown or setback during the season from a 278 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: positive standpoint, or you can do it as you know, 279 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: not a not so positive and depending on how you 280 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: handle it as leadership ultimately will dictate how the players 281 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: react to I know there's some people out there sitting 282 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: there saying they need to be accountable, they need to 283 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: be held accountable, and you're right, they do need to 284 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: help be held accountable if you've played that poorly and 285 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: that's the reason why you let a game get away 286 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: from you, and you did have the opportunity to start 287 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: a little run and clawing and you know, get yourself 288 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: back into the race, the playoff race. Sure, you're going 289 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: to be a little disappointed. I think everybody would be disappointed, 290 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: uh in the effort seeing what it was statistically, But 291 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: there's still the element of even with being accountable and 292 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: people having self accountability as well as team accountability, there's 293 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: a way to go about doing it because it all 294 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: represents team politics. It all represents team fabric and how 295 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: people react to one another, how they communicate with one another, 296 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: how you work together, all the things that you learn 297 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: as you're growing up to be successful in the workforce. 298 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: It applies in football and in pro sports. So to me, 299 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: I think the biggest takeaway from a game where your 300 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: defense had a horrible let down the head coach calls 301 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: it out. I know Al Golden. Al Golden is a 302 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: fine man. He is a good man. Your defense coordinator 303 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: says that can happen. They got to be better. I 304 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: think this is probably more so along the lines of 305 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: that player's only meeting was geared and based towards them 306 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: taking on the ownership of being a better unit and 307 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: a unit that gives their offense like, look, we got 308 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: one of the more talented offenses in the league. We 309 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: can't be having letdowns as pros that allow for our 310 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: season to get lost if we lose. And this is 311 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: another thing that vets will will introduce to the conversation 312 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: when you're losing. None of us are safe. We're too 313 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: good to be in a situation where we're living our 314 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: lives on the edge. Like I'm talking to us right now, 315 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking to the room. But you could be gone 316 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: next week. You could be gone today, you could be 317 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: gone in a couple of weeks. You could be gone 318 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: in a couple weeks. None of us are safe. I 319 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: could see you here today and you could be gone tomorrow. 320 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: And that is a big part of the conversation. Sometimes 321 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: headline's coming up. Hey, bro, forget trades like we need 322 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: to replace this production. You gotta go. It's a numbers game. Sorry. 323 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: You have been a positive backup, great contributor, could even 324 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: possibly start at some point, but we had to let 325 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: you go because we're losing. We need to have more 326 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: over here. We need to do this, and it's based 327 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: upon y'all's performance. And Trey Hendrickson has not been healthy. 328 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 4: He tried to come back and I think he left 329 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 4: before halftime if I'm not mistaken, this most recent game. 330 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: So it's just not God. 331 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: Well, now there is good news, all right, So I 332 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: know this is like doom and gloom on the Bengals. 333 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 4: Good news you got the Bears next, So there you go. 334 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 4: If you want to get right game on defense, don't worry. 335 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 4: Just get a whiff of that passing offense for the 336 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: Chicago Bears. 337 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: And you're gonna be fun. You just don't want to 338 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: be that team that gives you the UCLA treatment. You 339 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: don't want to be the team what do they get 340 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: back on track with? What is the UCLA treatment they 341 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: get back on track with you or get on track 342 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: for the first time ever. You just don't want to 343 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: be that team. 344 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: I mean in fairness, though, I would say at least 345 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 4: Bengals fans show up to the games. 346 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: UCLA fans are still trying. Okay, well, that's fair and all, 347 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you don't want 348 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: to be the team that shows up and it's like, yeah, 349 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: we should be good against these guys, and then they 350 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: come out and give you that work jab tore out 351 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: the frame. What about those sidelines though? Blood? Hey how 352 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: was that looking? Hey? It went bad? And U see 353 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: in Pasadena. I mean, they might have not showed up 354 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: in the stands, but they certainly did what they needed 355 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: to do on the sidellineline pastes were popping. Huh. They 356 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: definitely are in the discussion for best best sideline. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 357 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: their sideline is pretty impressive. Yeah, Westwood's not bad. 358 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: By the way, Get tools that perform at the highest 359 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 4: level on every job without compromise. When you shot Makita 360 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: at the home depot, when the job calls for the 361 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 4: best call on Mikida built to be the best available 362 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: at the home depot, how pros get more done? 363 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: All right, it's coming out next year. You used to 364 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: date Makita. Come here, she was great? 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So that'll be yours here on FSR Super bad. 406 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: So. 407 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 4: We talked yesterday about the firing of Brian Kelly. LSU 408 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 4: parting ways with Brian Kelly and just what you know, 409 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 4: felt like an awkward relationship from the get go, just 410 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 4: the way things started, everything that came along with it, 411 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 4: just you know, did not go well with Brian Kelly. 412 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 4: There in Baton Rouge Well, Kirby Smart, the Georgia head coach, 413 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 4: he had some thoughts about the situation and the way 414 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 4: things are currently constructed in the world of college football. 415 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: It's the world we live in. Everybody's got a voice. 416 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 6: It's obviously a tough situation on everybody. I mean, let's 417 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 6: be honest, it's the players dealing with it, fans dealing 418 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 6: with it, coaches dealing with it at this time in 419 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: the middle of a season. You know, I think there's 420 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 6: so much built around the playoffs, and it's like everything's 421 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 6: boom or bust and you can't have a normal season. 422 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 6: People got to make decisions earlier based on how somebody does. 423 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 6: And I don't know nothing about it. I know it's 424 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 6: a high expectations. I coached at LSU and guy once 425 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 6: told me, he said, that office you're in, that's not your. 426 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: Office rented, you're borrowing it. That's right. 427 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 6: And I knew right then that if you didn't win, 428 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 6: you wouldn't be there long. 429 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart that's every coach, especially in this in this 430 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: nil transfer portal era of time. It's every major coach's reality. 431 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: Like he said, it has created an expectation that is 432 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: now more measurable than it's ever been. As you think 433 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: about it. When I was in school, it was there 434 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: was no playoff, so it was the expectation was make 435 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: a New Year's Day Bowl game and you had a 436 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: successful season. If you win the bowl game, then that's 437 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: even more of a six ESIL season. Got People don't 438 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: remember that the Orange Bowl they mattered. The Orange Bowl mattered, 439 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: the Sugar the Sugar Bowl it mattered. You knew that 440 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl represented the winner of the Big Ten 441 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: and the winner of the Pack Pack ten, Pac twelve. 442 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: These these day, those day and ages, a coach was 443 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: able to slide by in that borrowed office, that rented 444 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: office that they have. It's so amazing. You can come 445 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: into a school as the coach. You become outright undisputed 446 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: highest paid employee of the school. And if it's a 447 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: state school of the state. With what you make, you 448 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: can change around how the building is configured, like totally 449 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: change it as they had. Coach. I want this hair, 450 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: I want my office here, this is how I want 451 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: these meeting rooms, this is how I want the weight room. 452 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: This is that you can do all these things to 453 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: change that building around, and yet and still it is 454 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: rented time. They just this man James Franklin loses his job. 455 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: They just finished the renovations for this phase of what 456 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: they were doing with. The last building just opened up 457 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: in the Greenberg Center, just opened up the the facility 458 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: there where they can eat their food and all this 459 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: other stuff and they can go there this Olympic training 460 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: area where the rehab facilities there are phenomenal, phenomenal. I 461 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: use them myself. And then he's gone, gone his his 462 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: his his office is straight fire. The new office. Straight Fire, 463 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: got all the you know, the former players that are 464 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: doing well in the league. They're framed, the jerseys are framed, 465 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: they're on the wall. Everything is rings are on and 466 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: on displayed. And you got the area where you could 467 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: sit down. It's literally like a pimped out, plush Rich 468 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: Carlton type of like room in a suite, just the 469 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: way Matt Rule likes it. That's what I'm talking about. Anyway. 470 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: The point that I'm making is, no matter how much 471 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: you think you're able to do and have, you have 472 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: to have the results that go along with it, because 473 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: if you don't, if you're not in position to make 474 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs, you're in position to lose your job. 475 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 4: You know what, it's because and it's all like and listen, 476 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: Kirby Smart makes a great point. 477 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the world we live in. 478 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: And I guess my thought on it is this that 479 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 4: I understand they make a hell of a living like 480 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: we're you know, nine, ten eleven million dollars. 481 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: And people will say that's why somebody said on my 482 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: comments it's not a volatile job, because I say volatile yesterday. 483 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: It is a volatile job because you can lose it. 484 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: You can have it today and be gone tomorrow. But 485 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: when you make when you get forty million, thirty million, 486 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: sixty million dollar payouts, it's okay, you got compensated amazingly, 487 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: but you're still out of a job. 488 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: And that's why when when people are like, well, I mean, listen, 489 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 4: what are you crying about. You got this much money 490 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 4: to walk away, I mean, give me that much money 491 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 4: and I'll go, It's like, okay, but. 492 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: You're you're operating from your wallet right out theirs and 493 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: your understanding and your standards and your level of of 494 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is, your level is right like 495 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: your expectations. Because the bottom line is is that I 496 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: would be destroyed if I failed the team that I 497 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: had led for all these years. Like maybe Kelly's a 498 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: little different. He comes across as a tad bit disingenuous. 499 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that he loved anybody at LSU outside 500 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: of himself or in his agenda. I could be wrong, 501 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: but he just seems like a self absorbed dude. But 502 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: when you get one of those coaches that has been 503 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: a part of the organization, like you stay with Franklin 504 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: is what I know. And that man has been there 505 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: for twelve years and took a program that was in 506 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: disarray and survived those years those lean years, built the 507 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: program back, started recruiting top tier athletes to come there, 508 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: ends up winning a Big Ten championship, ends up being 509 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: one game removed from being in the national title game 510 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: last year, and has to walk out of that building 511 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: and let alone, has to walk into the meeting room 512 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: and face all of these young men and women who 513 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: are in that room, all staff, and let them know 514 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: I have been relieved of my duties. What's six weeks 515 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: in so now the shockwaves, here's the shockwaves that go 516 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: through that room and then begin to work its way 517 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: around the building. Who's ever in that meeting the shockwaves? Are? 518 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: Am I going to have my scholarship next year? Players? 519 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: Should I leave because I'm an older guy? But you 520 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: know what do I do? Coaches? Will I have a 521 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: job next year? Scouting department? Will I have a job 522 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: next year? Video? You know, the guys that capture the practices. 523 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: Will I have a job next year? The equipment room. 524 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: Will we have a job next year? Like you start 525 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: to name it the training room? Will I have a 526 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: job next year? You have to go the shockwaves. Isn't 527 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: just the job for the head coach. It is an 528 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: entire ecosystem. You're talking about the support group, the fifth 529 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: quarter that they had there, the lady that helps out 530 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: the players, make sure travel and insurance and stuff like 531 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: paying taxes and travel when there's a bye week, or 532 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: when you get the tickets, whatever it may be, player relations, 533 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: between the ambassador of the program with the fans and 534 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: the donors, and everybody now is on notice that you 535 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: may or may not have a job here at the 536 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: conclusion of the season. So it goes far beyond just 537 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: the idea of a head coach loses their job. Sure 538 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: they get compensated very nicely for what they're doing, but 539 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: imagine carrying the weight as a coach imagine having to 540 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: carry the weight of I got to look you in 541 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: your eyes knowing that I'm about to get my payout 542 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: and I'm straight, I really am financially good. But I 543 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: got to handle the idea that you're making sixty five 544 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year. Yeah, over here, you're making ninety 545 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: thousand a year. You're making one hundred thousand a year, 546 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: and the holidays are right around the corner. Come on, man, 547 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: like that. Now, Now you're getting into the now. You're 548 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: getting into the weeds of what this all represents when 549 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: you start making these changes and you're forced to make 550 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: these changes. 551 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 4: That's why I just I've been let go. I've been 552 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: let go in radio, and this is my dream, and 553 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 4: I remember what that and that it's like borderline traumatizing 554 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 4: because you're you're terrified I was never going to get 555 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 4: an opportunity again. That's why I work as much as 556 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 4: I do because I don't don't. I don't want to 557 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: lose it again because I know what it did to 558 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: me psychologically. And if you're one of these coaches, yeah, listen, 559 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: Brian Kelly's getting fifty four million dollars or whatever he is, 560 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 4: he's getting James Franklin's getting you know, tens of millions 561 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 4: of dollars, you know, as long as he shows that 562 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 4: he's out there, you know, trying to get a job. 563 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 4: But yeah, all those people on their staff that had 564 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 4: those jobs because of the trust and relationships they had 565 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: with those code is all gone. They're not making fifty 566 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: four million dollars, they're not making any of that much 567 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 4: nowhere close to that, and they're all scrambling going, well, 568 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: now what like and I don't know, I'm depending on 569 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 4: this guy and whether or not he's going to get 570 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 4: an opportunity. And you've got people out there like, well, 571 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 4: he didn't he didn't he didn't win a national championship, 572 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 4: or he didn't go far enough at a college football playoff, 573 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 4: he's out of here. 574 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: If you were to. 575 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 4: Tell James Franklin as he's walking off the field in 576 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: Miami at the game that we were at in the 577 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 4: semi final, oh, by the way, buddy, by by Halloween, 578 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 4: you're you're out, like, well before Halloween the next year, 579 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 4: you're out. Like he'd be like, wait, what what are 580 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 4: you talking about? Like this like none of it makes 581 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: any sense, But you've got the fan base pushing for it. 582 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: You've got all these people that are saying, you know, 583 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 4: do this, fire this. And it was Nick Saban who 584 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 4: made the point on ESPN over the weekend when he said, 585 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 4: if I'm taking a Penn State job or Florida job 586 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: or some job like that, the first thing I need 587 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 4: to know is who has power here? He goes, I 588 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 4: need to know whether or not I'm the final say 589 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 4: on stuff, or whether or not somebody who's providing, you know, 590 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: an infusion of cash into the program, whether or not 591 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 4: they're going to dictate to me and try and tell 592 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 4: me how I need to build. 593 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: My roster and how I need to build my It's 594 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: so complicated, it's such a deep rabbit hole because again, 595 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to how do you say this, Like, 596 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: you can't have a coach be in a situation where 597 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: they're the final word. And at the same time, as 598 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: a coach, you can't be in a situation where you're 599 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: not comfortably situated to make big decisions, whether it be 600 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: who's playing, whether it be what you're doing. You can 601 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: have somebody else dictating to you that way. Now, if 602 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: it extends beyond the parameters of what happens on the 603 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: football field. That's different, Like what does that look like? 604 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: What did those conversations look like? I don't know, but 605 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: I could suspect that. Knowing that you have this guaranteed 606 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: amount of money that could pay an entire roster, and 607 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: you still have comfortably an amount of money that you 608 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 1: make in your check, you're going to fill a certain 609 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: level of Well, go ahead, you wanna fire me, go ahead, Fine, 610 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: don't bring me here to build the culture to build 611 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: a winner, and you're not giving me the freedom and 612 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: the autonomy to be able to do it. That's why 613 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: you have these large ass contracts being given out from 614 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: these large ass schools to get a coach that can 615 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: bring them a national title. The biggest complication moving forward 616 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: is that you are going to be measured and judged 617 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: by being able to make it to the college playoff one. 618 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: Now the bar is there. You got to make it 619 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: to the playoffs or you're risking losing your job. Then, 620 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: once you make it to the playoffs, how far can 621 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: you go into the playoffs? That's number two. Those are 622 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: the two major things that coaches are facing at major schools, 623 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: blue blood schools now in this new football college football 624 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: playoff that we're in. And I'm gonna tell you right now. 625 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: You add in transfer portal and nil to that equation, 626 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: and you have a very very turbulent space that exists 627 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: in college football. Now tot Louisiana man, super high. And 628 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: speaking of Louisiana, you could throw some hot sauce on 629 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: this hot topic and well, you could grill it up, 630 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: you could fry it. Especially you know, if you're like 631 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: me and you know it tastes like chicken, you could 632 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: throw some hot sauce on that and make sure it's 633 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: Louisiana hot. 634 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 4: Man. 635 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: I tell you what's got that great balance of peppery 636 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: peppers and vinegar and salt. And like I said, you 637 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: could throw it on some chicken, some nachos, some burgers. 638 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: You can hit that tail gay food with it. It's bold, 639 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: hand crafted flavor, that's original Louisiana hot sauce. Make sure 640 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: you buy your some Louisiana hot. 641 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 4: It's two pros and a cup of Joe here on 642 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio and coming up next, things have gone 643 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 4: from bad to worse for one organization in the NFL. 644 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 4: We'll give you the details right here at FSR. 645 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of two Pros and 646 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 647 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 3: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 648 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 4: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio, 649 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 4: LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. 650 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: Coming off top of next hour. Yeah, there you go, 651 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: there you go. We will keep out of any. 652 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 4: Continue the discussion and asked the question how you feeling 653 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 4: after after a wild ride and a lengthy one at 654 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 4: that in the world of sports last night. That'll be 655 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: yours here on FSR. By the way, this show is 656 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 4: sponsored by DraftKings sportsbook and official sports betting partner of 657 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 4: the NFL and the NBA, And right now use the 658 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 4: promo code two pros to claim your special offer of DraftKings. Again, 659 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 4: that's promo Code two pros at DraftKings. The crown is yours. 660 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 4: So I saw this story in the NFL. 661 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: Did you like it? Well? 662 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 4: I do think it's pretty telling. Okay, so we can 663 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 4: agree that the Raiders are a bad team. That's a 664 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 4: real bad team, not at all all, right, Tyler Lockett 665 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 4: asked the Tennessee Titans for his release and then signed 666 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 4: with the Raiders. Makes sense, Yeah, how bad are the 667 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans that Tyler Lockett saw the Raiders as an upgrade. 668 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: That's not fair. You mean, that's not fair. It's not 669 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: fair because one, I don't think we need any we 670 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: don't need any information to justify how bad the tendency 671 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: Titans are. Like there's like they're bad. But you also 672 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: know that obviously the coach of the Raiders was Tyler 673 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: Lockett's coach and was the reason why he got drafted 674 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: to the league and Smith have a great relationship based 675 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: upon being teammates and uh and in Seattle. So while 676 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,439 Speaker 1: you could look at it at the you know, kind 677 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: of surface level and say this is the reason why, 678 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: or you could say, how bad is it where you 679 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: go to the Raiders from the Titans. I get that, 680 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: but it's the familiarity of the quarterback and the coach. 681 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 4: Listen, if my best friend were homeless, I'm not going 682 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 4: to go live with them. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, this 683 00:39:59,040 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 4: is not gonna happen. 684 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: Can you not do that? 685 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 4: I'm I'm okay, I where I'm at, and I just 686 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 4: don't you know, I'm just not going to be a 687 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 4: part of that. 688 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: I don't I think that's a very, very vastly different conversation. 689 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: Going to live in the streets with your homie because 690 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: that's your homing versus going to make a couple million 691 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: dollars on it in a different franchise and playing in 692 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: the NFL with a coach that you had successful and 693 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Have you been to Nashville before? I have? Okay, 694 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: I hear good things have never been. Yeah, it's it's 695 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: it's it's a good place, Nashville or Vegas. Take your pick. Different. 696 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: He just did. It's different. And for Tyler Lockett, I 697 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: don't think either one of them matters because he's just 698 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: he's a solid dude, home dude, like you know, takes 699 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: care of everything. Now if he's a single, young guy, 700 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: take your pick. One you put on some cowboy boots. 701 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: The other one you put on some some some you know, 702 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: designer sneakers. Either way, you're gonna be walking, You're gonna 703 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: be stepping shopping. You're gonna watch shopping hammers damp the cannons.